Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
Oh I agree that it's silly when the US tries to use strong arm tactics in other countries. But, remember, if there is a presence of a company in those countries, they can still take the offending site to court in their own country. Anyway, just cause a site is in another country doesn't mean that a company still couldn't attempt to bully the offending site with a lawsuit. Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Good luck getting sites, in, like, say Panama to comply. Too many countries that would (yeah!) tell the US to get fscked, which would only hurt the complying US companies. I think the courts know this, the long arm of the US doesn't extend EVERYWHERE yet. There are still a few countries yet that have nothing to lose by telling the US to get Fscked. Thos wil always harbour technology (and funds) the US finds objectionable. Cheers Jason Troy Davidson wrote: Makes me wonder if this is the beginning of the SCO fallout. I know that there hasn't been any ruling on anything yet. But, why couldn't SCO use the DMCA to shutdown any site that is distributing anything to do with Linux? This might just be the beginning of a scary road we are heading down. Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here's a mistake in the making! http://download.com.com/1200-2002-997312.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
Todd's right--who really cares? It's probably a waste of their resources and it's no skin off our noses. Miark On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:51:42 -0400 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:47:10 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a mistake in the making! http://download.com.com/1200-2002-997312.html Good, cnet sucks. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
On 11 Jun 2003 09:17:11 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 08:51, Todd Slater wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:47:10 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a mistake in the making! http://download.com.com/1200-2002-997312.html Good, cnet sucks. :) Hey, I know that, you know that, most of the world already knows that - but it's almost a political statement - as though they're listening to the SCO scam... If CNet was afraid of SCO, they could remove links for downloading full distros, but that's about it. The average app doesn't have UNIX code and is not subject of SCO's lawsuit. I don't think this is a political statement. I think it's a financial statement. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:47:10 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a mistake in the making! http://download.com.com/1200-2002-997312.html Good, cnet sucks. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
Stephen Kuhn wrote: Here's a mistake in the making! http://download.com.com/1200-2002-997312.html Yup too bad theyare doing this. Sure there are a lot of pages listing Linux apps but it never hurts if there are more. I sent them a feddback on this nad maybe you should also do so and tell them we want the section back: http://download.com.com/1200-20-750060.html?tag=subnav -- Live long and prosper! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
Makes me wonder if this is the beginning of the SCO fallout. I know that there hasn't been any ruling on anything yet. But, why couldn't SCO use the DMCA to shutdown any site that is distributing anything to do with Linux? This might just be the beginning of a scary road we are heading down. Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here's a mistake in the making! http://download.com.com/1200-2002-997312.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
This play into the hands of the big stupid gorilla. What the gorilla is attempting appears to be working. Stephen Kuhn wrote: Here's a mistake in the making! http://download.com.com/1200-2002-997312.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Kevin J Citron Sr. Object Imagineer Optimized Objects, Inc. EL Paso, Texas 79930 (915) 565-5777/566-2403
Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 08:51, Todd Slater wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:47:10 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a mistake in the making! http://download.com.com/1200-2002-997312.html Good, cnet sucks. :) Hey, I know that, you know that, most of the world already knows that - but it's almost a political statement - as though they're listening to the SCO scam... -- Wed Jun 11 09:15:00 EST 2003 09:15:00 up 3 days, 19:06, 3 users, load average: 0.31, 0.18, 0.12 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Here there be tygers. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
Good luck getting sites, in, like, say Panama to comply. Too many countries that would (yeah!) tell the US to get fscked, which would only hurt the complying US companies. I think the courts know this, the long arm of the US doesn't extend EVERYWHERE yet. There are still a few countries yet that have nothing to lose by telling the US to get Fscked. Thos wil always harbour technology (and funds) the US finds objectionable. Cheers Jason Troy Davidson wrote: Makes me wonder if this is the beginning of the SCO fallout. I know that there hasn't been any ruling on anything yet. But, why couldn't SCO use the DMCA to shutdown any site that is distributing anything to do with Linux? This might just be the beginning of a scary road we are heading down. Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here's a mistake in the making! http://download.com.com/1200-2002-997312.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
On Tuesday 10 June 2003 06:47 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Here's a mistake in the making! http://download.com.com/1200-2002-997312.html Stephen: Does anyone actually download linux software from CNet? (Personally, I prefer ZDNet -- same articles, but the Talkback threads are priceless. Kinda like high tech Jerry Springer.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
Does anyone know why download.com stopped having downloads for linux? Or is it a M$ thing where they threatened them and therefore linux went out the door? -- LeaAnne Kolp Don't forget to check out my sites! My Personal Site http://cowgirlk.shorturl.com My Cartoon Orbit Fan Page http://orbiters.funurl.com From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Kuhn Media Australia Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11 Jun 2003 08:47:10 +1000 To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!! Here's a mistake in the making! http://download.com.com/1200-2002-997312.html -- Wed Jun 11 08:45:00 EST 2003 08:45:00 up 3 days, 18:36, 3 users, load average: 0.18, 0.40, 0.26 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Man's unique agony as a species consists in his perpetual conflict between the desire to stand out and the need to blend in. -- Sydney J. Harris Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
I would guess that CNet have done this on the advice of their legal department. If this is representative of the views in the legal community, how long will it be before other organisations follow suit (suits?) Old Canadian joke: Q. What do you call 10 lawyers at the bottom of Lake Ontario? A. A good start! - Original Message - From: Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!! On Tuesday 10 June 2003 06:47 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Here's a mistake in the making! http://download.com.com/1200-2002-997312.html Stephen: Does anyone actually download linux software from CNet? (Personally, I prefer ZDNet -- same articles, but the Talkback threads are priceless. Kinda like high tech Jerry Springer.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
well I am proud to say that I have an internet service that is linux friendly.. But CNET dropping linux bad mood. if someone makes an anti cnet banner i will put it on my website we will have to go to some linux geek site instead Thanks Kenneth E. Spress [EMAIL PROTECTED] RUID # 0462790 Interested in a user friendly ISP that costs less Try ACN Internet http://www.acninc.net/dialuplocations.asp?details=us http://www.acninc.net/innerwindow.asp?theurl=signupinfo.asp - Original Message - From: Ian Trickett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!! I would guess that CNet have done this on the advice of their legal department. If this is representative of the views in the legal community, how long will it be before other organisations follow suit (suits?) Old Canadian joke: Q. What do you call 10 lawyers at the bottom of Lake Ontario? A. A good start! - Original Message - From: Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!! On Tuesday 10 June 2003 06:47 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Here's a mistake in the making! http://download.com.com/1200-2002-997312.html Stephen: Does anyone actually download linux software from CNet? (Personally, I prefer ZDNet -- same articles, but the Talkback threads are priceless. Kinda like high tech Jerry Springer.) -- cmg -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
I can't imagine why they would stop...stupid of them if you ask me... LeaAnne Kolp wrote: Does anyone know why download.com stopped having downloads for linux? Or is it a M$ thing where they threatened them and therefore linux went out the door? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 09:03, LeaAnne Kolp wrote: Does anyone know why download.com stopped having downloads for linux? Or is it a M$ thing where they threatened them and therefore linux went out the door? I would think it's two things, possibly three 1.) The linux download section of Download.com rarely if ever gets any traffic, and all the entries are more than just outdated - a good number of them were dead links; their partner, ZDnet, has more activity and is a bit more better suited to linux - so by getting rid of that archive, they're making for easier work on the staff. 2.) CNet isn't exactly the place where linux freaks go - articles, specials and the likes are more aimed at either Windows or Macs. It IS a great archive for Macintosh - and not really a good one for Windows anymore. They're sagging in popularity as it stands, and CNet's reputation isn't what it was five years ago. 3.) They're frightened of the SCO scam, and being a Microsoft puppet, they're pulling it just because they've been told to pull it. -- Wed Jun 11 14:20:00 EST 2003 14:20:00 up 4 days, 11 min, 3 users, load average: 0.27, 0.16, 0.06 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * No flight ever leaves on time unless you are running late and need the delay to make the flight -- Murphy's Laws for Frequent Flyers n1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 11:22, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tuesday 10 June 2003 06:47 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Here's a mistake in the making! http://download.com.com/1200-2002-997312.html Stephen: Does anyone actually download linux software from CNet? (Personally, I prefer ZDNet -- same articles, but the Talkback threads are priceless. Kinda like high tech Jerry Springer.) -- cmg Mate, last time I looked at the linux section on CNet, they still had the same top five that they had up there for the past two years. I only surf there to occasionally download software for older Macs that I work on... I personally won't download anything from there cuz I rather download something that's either cutting edge or bleeding edge - for any OS... Even Tucows is too old and stodgy for my tastes... -- Wed Jun 11 14:30:01 EST 2003 14:30:01 up 4 days, 21 min, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.07, 0.05 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Do your part to help preserve life on Earth -- by trying to preserve your own. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
On Tuesday 10 June 2003 03:47 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Here's a mistake in the making! http://download.com.com/1200-2002-997312.html Who needs them? Cnet sucks. ZDnet sucks. Microsoft sucks. Linux rocks! -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com