Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
Metamorphysical wrote: > > I followed the directions and got to the program Midnight Commander but when > I went to the X11 directory there was XF86Config but no XF-Config.cfg. > Should there be one? no typo on my part sue me XF86Config-4 is what you want -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
I followed the directions and got to the program Midnight Commander but when I went to the X11 directory there was XF86Config but no XF-Config.cfg. Should there be one? - Original Message - From: "FemmeFatale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card > Derek Jennings wrote: > > > > SNIP > > > > > > $ rpm -ivh NVIDIA_GLX.i386.rpm > > > > > > > > > They figure you should already now how to use linux. > > > You get the instructions for Windows an idiot like me can follow them, or > > > so to speak someoone like me. > > > > If I may be of help perhaps this will smooth matters over? > > You're on the console Only yes? > > Fine. You d/led your drivers I assume to a FAT32 partition? If So, at > your commmand prompt type this: > > find nvidia* > > when it find them do this: > > su - (that gives you root status) > > Enter Root password here > > rpm -ivh /mnt/windowspartition/whereeverRPMishere > > same for your GLX file (usually nvidia-blah-blah-glx.rpm). > > Your files are now installed. K so now everyone says EDIT THIS FILE! > and you're think, WTF are you smoking!? What file!? Where!? > @#%!OIU%U@@!$!#%%&&* > > so I hope you've installed this program called midnight commander. if > so do a: > > mc (thats the nameof the file) at your command prompt. > > Its opens a nice blue screen (NO not a BSOD), which is a lot like > Internet Explorer. Fine, now use your arrow keys to navigate to the: > > etc/X11 directory. *You have to hit the ENTER key to get the program to > let you into the highlighted directory*. > > Now, scroll down till you find the file: > > XF86-Config.cfg > > see those F#'s on the bottom of your screen? K hit F4 *edit*, now go > into that file. > > Edit the files everyones told you to edit like this: > > Driver: nv > > change that to: > > Driver: nvidia > > (Add This line. Goes below a line that reads "Module" > Load "glx > > > http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/hardware/hgforce.html > > that page gives the simplest instructions I have found to date for this > :) And fwiw, I've felt as you do a LOT... Heh Madame Reinstall I think > should be my nickname ;p > -- > Femme > > Good Decisions You boss Made: > > "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that > character from Peanuts." > > - Source: Dilbert > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
> PLEASE, I'm slow at getting the hang of Mandrake so explain this to me like > a 5 year old. > I just bought a GeForce4 Ti4400 and I need help on installing the > drivers(RPM's?) from a command prompt. > The Users guide says it supports Linux but I can't figure out how to install > the rpm's. > > There are 3 listed on the Nvidia site: > #1 Mandrake8.2 UP i586 Architecture > #2 Mandrake 8.2 SMP i586 Architecture > #3 Mandrake 8.2 Secure i586 Architecture Hi there Assuming you have a standard install of Mandrake 8.2, you'll be after #1 (NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2960.mdk82up.i586.rpm) I have also Geforce4 Ti4400 and its running very nicely with these drivers. cheers Ross Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
SNIP > > $ rpm -ivh NVIDIA_GLX.i386.rpm > > > They figure you should already now how to use linux. > You get the instructions for Windows an idiot like me can follow them, or > so to speak someoone like me. Yes I know what you mean. I well remember the cold sweat of fear I felt when I tried installing the Nvidia drivers the first time, and screwed it up and ended up in a text console. :-) That console command 'rpm -ivh NVIDIA_GLX.i386.rpm' is what will execute when you click on the RPM file in konqueror, so it is not actually necessary for you to use the command line. Nor is it actually necessary to leave X before starting the procedure. I have not done so the last three times I have installed the drivers. BTW: Why do you say that the Geforce 4 is too new to be recognised at install time? All Nvidia cards use the same driver. You should be able to just declare it as any type of Nvidia card. Mandrake will then load the Opensource "nv" driver which will not work 3D, but will work in 2D perfectly well. You can set up the card type by logging in as root user from the text login with the command XFdrake --expert --noauto (The first screen is to select monitor resolution. Tab to 'Cancel' and it will move on to card selection) derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
Title: RE: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card First thing Dennis I can't get into Konquerer. I can't get any Gui interface. It stops at the text login. localhost thingy - Original Message - From: Myers, Dennis R NWO To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:24 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Metamorphysical Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card Ok, I have given up. I have reformatted and reinstalled mandrake 8.2 The Geforce card is too new to be installed at the reinstall. now how do I install the rpms? Simple as possible please. I am stupid. Sincerely, STUPID! Sorry, by definition anyone who is intelligent enough to migrate to Mandrake-Linux can not be stupid, therefore you are not stupid. Now, the easiest way to install the RPMs is: 1. open konqueror by clicking on the home icon on your desk top. 2. find the downloaded rpms files 3. copy both files to a new folder 4. open a terminal and type "su" and then the root password without the quotes. 5. type cd folderwiththenvidiafile.name 6. type "urpmi *.rpm" without the quotes 7. the rpms will be installed or dependencies will be listed. 8. open a text editor, I like gedit. Navigate to /etc/x11/xf86config-4 and then do the changes as mandated i.e. add "Load "glx" " and change "nv" to "nvidia" as indicated by the instructions from the Nvidia site below : http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86_40/1.0-2960/README.txt If you already have an XF86Config file working with a different driver (such as the 'nv' or 'vesa' driver), then all you need to do is find the relevant Device section and replace the line: Driver "nv" (or Driver "vesa") with Driver "nvidia" In the Module section, make sure you have: Load "glx" You should also remove the following lines: Load "dri" Load "GLcore" if they exist. There are also numerous options that can be added to the XF86Config file to fine-tune the NVIDIA XFree86 driver. Please see Appendix D for a complete list of these options.
RE: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
Title: RE: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Metamorphysical Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card Ok, I have given up. I have reformatted and reinstalled mandrake 8.2 The Geforce card is too new to be installed at the reinstall. now how do I install the rpms? Simple as possible please. I am stupid. Sincerely, STUPID! Sorry, by definition anyone who is intelligent enough to migrate to Mandrake-Linux can not be stupid, therefore you are not stupid. Now, the easiest way to install the RPMs is: 1. open konqueror by clicking on the home icon on your desk top. 2. find the downloaded rpms files 3. copy both files to a new folder 4. open a terminal and type "su" and then the root password without the quotes. 5. type cd folderwiththenvidiafile.name 6. type "urpmi *.rpm" without the quotes 7. the rpms will be installed or dependencies will be listed. 8. open a text editor, I like gedit. Navigate to /etc/x11/xf86config-4 and then do the changes as mandated i.e. add "Load "glx" " and change "nv" to "nvidia" as indicated by the instructions from the Nvidia site below : http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86_40/1.0-2960/README.txt If you already have an XF86Config file working with a different driver (such as the 'nv' or 'vesa' driver), then all you need to do is find the relevant Device section and replace the line: Driver "nv" (or Driver "vesa") with Driver "nvidia" In the Module section, make sure you have: Load "glx" You should also remove the following lines: Load "dri" Load "GLcore" if they exist. There are also numerous options that can be added to the XF86Config file to fine-tune the NVIDIA XFree86 driver. Please see Appendix D for a complete list of these options.
Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
Title: RE: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card matter of fact this is what Nvidia gives for directions: BEFORE YOU BEGIN DRIVER INSTALLATIONBefore beginning the driver installation, you should exit the X server.In addition you should set your default run level so you will boot toconsole and not start up X (please consult the documentation that camewith your Linux distribution if you are unsure how to do this). This willmake it easier to recover if there is a problem during the installation.Please note that package revision numbers have been omitted in thefollowing directions to make them as general as possible. While thedirections might say "NVIDIA_kernel.tar.gz" you should replacethat with the name of the driver version you are installing; eg:"NVIDIA_kernel.0.9-6.tar.gz".INSTALLING BY RPMInstructions for the Impatient: $ rpm -ivh NVIDIA_kernel.i386.rpm $ rpm -ivh NVIDIA_GLX.i386.rpmInstructions:Before installing from rpm, make sure that you have downloaded theNVIDIA_kernel rpm appropriate for your kernel. Once you have verifiedthat you do indeed have the correct rpm, install NVIDIA_kernel by doing: $ rpm -ivh NVIDIA_kernel.i386.rpmNext, install the NVIDIA_GLX rpm by doing: $ rpm -ivh NVIDIA_GLX.i386.rpmThey figure you should already now how to use linux. You get the instructions for Windows an idiot like me can follow them, or so to speak someoone like me. - Original Message - From: Myers, Dennis R NWO To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:24 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Metamorphysical Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card Ok, I have given up. I have reformatted and reinstalled mandrake 8.2 The Geforce card is too new to be installed at the reinstall. now how do I install the rpms? Simple as possible please. I am stupid. Sincerely, STUPID! Sorry, by definition anyone who is intelligent enough to migrate to Mandrake-Linux can not be stupid, therefore you are not stupid. Now, the easiest way to install the RPMs is: 1. open konqueror by clicking on the home icon on your desk top. 2. find the downloaded rpms files 3. copy both files to a new folder 4. open a terminal and type "su" and then the root password without the quotes. 5. type cd folderwiththenvidiafile.name 6. type "urpmi *.rpm" without the quotes 7. the rpms will be installed or dependencies will be listed. 8. open a text editor, I like gedit. Navigate to /etc/x11/xf86config-4 and then do the changes as mandated i.e. add "Load "glx" " and change "nv" to "nvidia" as indicated by the instructions from the Nvidia site below : http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86_40/1.0-2960/README.txt If you already have an XF86Config file working with a different driver (such as the 'nv' or 'vesa' driver), then all you need to do is find the relevant Device section and replace the line: Driver "nv" (or Driver "vesa") with Driver "nvidia" In the Module section, make sure you have: Load "glx" You should also remove the following lines: Load "dri" Load "GLcore" if they exist. There are also numerous options that can be added to the XF86Config file to fine-tune the NVIDIA XFree86 driver. Please see Appendix D for a complete list of these options.
Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
Title: RE: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card What irritates me is Nvidia specifically says they support linux but they won't show me how to make the card work with linux. Is that not irritating or what. - Original Message - From: Myers, Dennis R NWO To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:24 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Metamorphysical Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card Ok, I have given up. I have reformatted and reinstalled mandrake 8.2 The Geforce card is too new to be installed at the reinstall. now how do I install the rpms? Simple as possible please. I am stupid. Sincerely, STUPID! Sorry, by definition anyone who is intelligent enough to migrate to Mandrake-Linux can not be stupid, therefore you are not stupid. Now, the easiest way to install the RPMs is: 1. open konqueror by clicking on the home icon on your desk top. 2. find the downloaded rpms files 3. copy both files to a new folder 4. open a terminal and type "su" and then the root password without the quotes. 5. type cd folderwiththenvidiafile.name 6. type "urpmi *.rpm" without the quotes 7. the rpms will be installed or dependencies will be listed. 8. open a text editor, I like gedit. Navigate to /etc/x11/xf86config-4 and then do the changes as mandated i.e. add "Load "glx" " and change "nv" to "nvidia" as indicated by the instructions from the Nvidia site below : http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86_40/1.0-2960/README.txt If you already have an XF86Config file working with a different driver (such as the 'nv' or 'vesa' driver), then all you need to do is find the relevant Device section and replace the line: Driver "nv" (or Driver "vesa") with Driver "nvidia" In the Module section, make sure you have: Load "glx" You should also remove the following lines: Load "dri" Load "GLcore" if they exist. There are also numerous options that can be added to the XF86Config file to fine-tune the NVIDIA XFree86 driver. Please see Appendix D for a complete list of these options.
Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
Title: RE: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card Believe me all the instructions I have gotten for konqueror would work if I could get there. Derek told me how to get X to start up again but it didn't work either. I gotta do everything from the command prompt. no graphic user interface whatsoever. i can't even get it to blink - Original Message - From: Myers, Dennis R NWO To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:24 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Metamorphysical Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card Ok, I have given up. I have reformatted and reinstalled mandrake 8.2 The Geforce card is too new to be installed at the reinstall. now how do I install the rpms? Simple as possible please. I am stupid. Sincerely, STUPID! Sorry, by definition anyone who is intelligent enough to migrate to Mandrake-Linux can not be stupid, therefore you are not stupid. Now, the easiest way to install the RPMs is: 1. open konqueror by clicking on the home icon on your desk top. 2. find the downloaded rpms files 3. copy both files to a new folder 4. open a terminal and type "su" and then the root password without the quotes. 5. type cd folderwiththenvidiafile.name 6. type "urpmi *.rpm" without the quotes 7. the rpms will be installed or dependencies will be listed. 8. open a text editor, I like gedit. Navigate to /etc/x11/xf86config-4 and then do the changes as mandated i.e. add "Load "glx" " and change "nv" to "nvidia" as indicated by the instructions from the Nvidia site below : http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86_40/1.0-2960/README.txt If you already have an XF86Config file working with a different driver (such as the 'nv' or 'vesa' driver), then all you need to do is find the relevant Device section and replace the line: Driver "nv" (or Driver "vesa") with Driver "nvidia" In the Module section, make sure you have: Load "glx" You should also remove the following lines: Load "dri" Load "GLcore" if they exist. There are also numerous options that can be added to the XF86Config file to fine-tune the NVIDIA XFree86 driver. Please see Appendix D for a complete list of these options.
Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
And derek I appreciate your help but obviously I'm doin something wrong or linux doesn't like my VC. - Original Message - From: "Metamorphysical" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card > Ok, I have given up. I have reformatted and reinstalled mandrake 8.2 The > Geforce card is too new to be installed at the reinstall. now how do I > install the rpms? > Simple as possible please. I am stupid. > > Sincerely, > > STUPID! > > - Original Message - > From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:54 AM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card > > > > Metamorphysical wrote: > > > > >PLEASE, I'm slow at getting the hang of Mandrake so explain this to me > like > > >a 5 year old. > > >I just bought a GeForce4 Ti4400 and I need help on installing the > > >drivers(RPM's?) from a command prompt. > > >The Users guide says it supports Linux but I can't figure out how to > install > > >the rpm's. > > > > > >There are 3 listed on the Nvidia site: > > >#1 Mandrake8.2 UP i586 Architecture > > >#2 Mandrake 8.2 SMP i586 Architecture > > >#3 Mandrake 8.2 Secure i586 Architecture > > > > > >I don't know what the UP, the SMP, or the Secure mean. Can someone help? > > > > > >Sincerely, > > >Lost in Space > > >Meta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > SMP is symmetric Multiprocessor. If you have two or four CPUs on your > > motherboard, you need this one > > > > > > Secure corresponds to kernel-secure, a kernel optimized for server and > > firewalling use. > > > > UP corresponds to the standard kernel that is installed if your machine > > has a single CPU (Unitary Processor) > > > > Please note that if you use these binary only drivers which are kernel > > modules, then if you update the kernel, they WILL NOT WORK any longer. > > That is the (largest practical)problem with binary-only drivers. It is > > not such a problem in Windows because the kernel is changed far less > > frequently (the Win95 and Win98 kernels are byte-for-byte identical) > > which seems almost an alien practice for linux where the kernel changes > > early and often. > > > > Another problem with binary-only drivers is that you cannot be sure of > > what you are getting. Several prizes have been awarded lately fro > > proof-of-concept spyware that will report your activity to merchants for > > their markketing, all working below the level of the user's knowledge. > > With the continuing need for revenue, I would expect to see the > > binary-only drivers that do not already have such spyware to have it > > very soon, all to the enrichment of the vendor of such binary-only > drivers. > > > > Civileme > > > > > > > > > > > -- -- > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
29.25 hours am I trying too hard? - Original Message - From: "Metamorphysical" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card > Ok, I have given up. I have reformatted and reinstalled mandrake 8.2 The > Geforce card is too new to be installed at the reinstall. now how do I > install the rpms? > Simple as possible please. I am stupid. > > Sincerely, > > STUPID! > > - Original Message - > From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:54 AM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card > > > > Metamorphysical wrote: > > > > >PLEASE, I'm slow at getting the hang of Mandrake so explain this to me > like > > >a 5 year old. > > >I just bought a GeForce4 Ti4400 and I need help on installing the > > >drivers(RPM's?) from a command prompt. > > >The Users guide says it supports Linux but I can't figure out how to > install > > >the rpm's. > > > > > >There are 3 listed on the Nvidia site: > > >#1 Mandrake8.2 UP i586 Architecture > > >#2 Mandrake 8.2 SMP i586 Architecture > > >#3 Mandrake 8.2 Secure i586 Architecture > > > > > >I don't know what the UP, the SMP, or the Secure mean. Can someone help? > > > > > >Sincerely, > > >Lost in Space > > >Meta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > SMP is symmetric Multiprocessor. If you have two or four CPUs on your > > motherboard, you need this one > > > > > > Secure corresponds to kernel-secure, a kernel optimized for server and > > firewalling use. > > > > UP corresponds to the standard kernel that is installed if your machine > > has a single CPU (Unitary Processor) > > > > Please note that if you use these binary only drivers which are kernel > > modules, then if you update the kernel, they WILL NOT WORK any longer. > > That is the (largest practical)problem with binary-only drivers. It is > > not such a problem in Windows because the kernel is changed far less > > frequently (the Win95 and Win98 kernels are byte-for-byte identical) > > which seems almost an alien practice for linux where the kernel changes > > early and often. > > > > Another problem with binary-only drivers is that you cannot be sure of > > what you are getting. Several prizes have been awarded lately fro > > proof-of-concept spyware that will report your activity to merchants for > > their markketing, all working below the level of the user's knowledge. > > With the continuing need for revenue, I would expect to see the > > binary-only drivers that do not already have such spyware to have it > > very soon, all to the enrichment of the vendor of such binary-only > drivers. > > > > Civileme > > > > > > > > > > > -- -- > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
Ok, I have given up. I have reformatted and reinstalled mandrake 8.2 The Geforce card is too new to be installed at the reinstall. now how do I install the rpms? Simple as possible please. I am stupid. Sincerely, STUPID! - Original Message - From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card > Metamorphysical wrote: > > >PLEASE, I'm slow at getting the hang of Mandrake so explain this to me like > >a 5 year old. > >I just bought a GeForce4 Ti4400 and I need help on installing the > >drivers(RPM's?) from a command prompt. > >The Users guide says it supports Linux but I can't figure out how to install > >the rpm's. > > > >There are 3 listed on the Nvidia site: > >#1 Mandrake8.2 UP i586 Architecture > >#2 Mandrake 8.2 SMP i586 Architecture > >#3 Mandrake 8.2 Secure i586 Architecture > > > >I don't know what the UP, the SMP, or the Secure mean. Can someone help? > > > >Sincerely, > >Lost in Space > >Meta > > > > > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > SMP is symmetric Multiprocessor. If you have two or four CPUs on your > motherboard, you need this one > > > Secure corresponds to kernel-secure, a kernel optimized for server and > firewalling use. > > UP corresponds to the standard kernel that is installed if your machine > has a single CPU (Unitary Processor) > > Please note that if you use these binary only drivers which are kernel > modules, then if you update the kernel, they WILL NOT WORK any longer. > That is the (largest practical)problem with binary-only drivers. It is > not such a problem in Windows because the kernel is changed far less > frequently (the Win95 and Win98 kernels are byte-for-byte identical) > which seems almost an alien practice for linux where the kernel changes > early and often. > > Another problem with binary-only drivers is that you cannot be sure of > what you are getting. Several prizes have been awarded lately fro > proof-of-concept spyware that will report your activity to merchants for > their markketing, all working below the level of the user's knowledge. > With the continuing need for revenue, I would expect to see the > binary-only drivers that do not already have such spyware to have it > very soon, all to the enrichment of the vendor of such binary-only drivers. > > Civileme > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
Metamorphysical wrote: >PLEASE, I'm slow at getting the hang of Mandrake so explain this to me like >a 5 year old. >I just bought a GeForce4 Ti4400 and I need help on installing the >drivers(RPM's?) from a command prompt. >The Users guide says it supports Linux but I can't figure out how to install >the rpm's. > >There are 3 listed on the Nvidia site: >#1 Mandrake8.2 UP i586 Architecture >#2 Mandrake 8.2 SMP i586 Architecture >#3 Mandrake 8.2 Secure i586 Architecture > >I don't know what the UP, the SMP, or the Secure mean. Can someone help? > >Sincerely, >Lost in Space >Meta > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > SMP is symmetric Multiprocessor. If you have two or four CPUs on your motherboard, you need this one Secure corresponds to kernel-secure, a kernel optimized for server and firewalling use. UP corresponds to the standard kernel that is installed if your machine has a single CPU (Unitary Processor) Please note that if you use these binary only drivers which are kernel modules, then if you update the kernel, they WILL NOT WORK any longer. That is the (largest practical)problem with binary-only drivers. It is not such a problem in Windows because the kernel is changed far less frequently (the Win95 and Win98 kernels are byte-for-byte identical) which seems almost an alien practice for linux where the kernel changes early and often. Another problem with binary-only drivers is that you cannot be sure of what you are getting. Several prizes have been awarded lately fro proof-of-concept spyware that will report your activity to merchants for their markketing, all working below the level of the user's knowledge. With the continuing need for revenue, I would expect to see the binary-only drivers that do not already have such spyware to have it very soon, all to the enrichment of the vendor of such binary-only drivers. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
The Only problem is I haven't been able to get into X since I changed to the GeForce. I used to have a Voodoo5 5500. I will try your last instructions and hopefully that will work. - Original Message - From: "Derek Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card > > If you cannot get into X, then Reverting back to the old XF86Config-4 file > should get you back into X again. > > To do this at a console log in as root > > init 3 (This will stop X trying to restart (You may need to log in again)) > > cd /etc/X11 > ls (This will list the files. One of them should be called XF86Config-4~ > This is the backup of your original edit) > > rename XF86Config-4~ XF86Config-4 > > init 5 (This will restart X and you should be back where you were) > > Then check the edits you made previously. A simple typo could be stopping X. > > Yes you can download the RPMs under Windows and then you will find them in > Linux under /mnt/windows/... > > > derek > > > > > On Tuesday 23 Jul 2002 12:42 pm, Metamorphysical wrote: > > ok just tried that didn't work. I can't get into X, so I gotta do this > > from the localhost login. > > I got the right rpm. I'm in windows right now, because I'm even more > > clueless on how to use a textbase operating system. (That would be 2 year > > old explaination for that one I think) But tell me if I'm wrong shouldn't I > > be able to put the rpm in the C drive under windows and still access it at > > the root login that way. Or would I be better off putting it on a floppy? > > - Original Message - > > From: "Metamorphysical" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:32 AM > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card > > > > > Disreguard that last email for a few and let me try this. passed right > > > > over > > > > > the start x thing. > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Derek Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:13 AM > > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card > > > > > > > On Tuesday 23 Jul 2002 11:53 am, Metamorphysical wrote: > > > > > PLEASE, I'm slow at getting the hang of Mandrake so explain this to > > > > me > > > > > > > like a 5 year old. > > > > > I just bought a GeForce4 Ti4400 and I need help on installing the > > > > > drivers(RPM's?) from a command prompt. > > > > > The Users guide says it supports Linux but I can't figure out how to > > > > > install the rpm's. > > > > > > > > > > There are 3 listed on the Nvidia site: > > > > > #1 Mandrake8.2 UP i586 Architecture > > > > > #2 Mandrake 8.2 SMP i586 Architecture > > > > > #3 Mandrake 8.2 Secure i586 Architecture > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what the UP, the SMP, or the Secure mean. Can someone > > > > > > help? > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > Lost in Space > > > > > Meta > > > > > > > > Do not worry. It is not too difficult. You do not even need to log out > > > > of > > > > > KDE > > > > > > > to install it. > > > > > > > > > > > > UP means UniProcessor i.e. One CPU on your motherboard This is the one > > > > > > you > > > > > > > want. SMP means Symmetric Multi Processor. > > > > > > > > Download the GLX and kernel RPMs > > > > > > > > Note: These RPMs are for the STANDARD Mandrake8.2 kernel. If you have > > > > upgraded your kernel then do not use them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Install the GLX RPM first (Just click on it in Konqueror and it will > > > > > > install) > > > > > > > Install the kernel RPM > > > > > > > > Now you have to edit a file. Using KMenu>Applications>File Tools>File > > > > Manager-SuperUserMode open the file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > > > > > > > > Locate the text > > > > > > > > Section "Module" > > > > > > > > and at the end of that section insert a line > > > > > > > > Load "glx" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now locate the text > > > > > > > > Section "Device" > > > > Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce (generic)" > > > > VendorName "Unknown" > > > > BoardName "Unknown" > > > > Driver "nv" > > > > > > > > and replace "nv" with "nvidia" > > > > > > > > save the file. Log out of KDE, and at the kdm log in screen select > > > > Menu>Restart X > > > > > > > > The screen should flash a few times and then you should see an Nvidia > > > > > > splash > > > > > > > screen. > > > > > > > > That is it. All done. > > > > > > > > derek > > > > > > - > > >- > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
Just remembered. In my original instructions on editing the XF86Config-4 file I should have told you to look for the lines in the "Modules" section Load "dri" Load "GLcore" and if either is present, to remove them. That could be why X is not starting. derek >On Tuesday 23 Jul 2002 12:42 pm, Metamorphysical wrote: > ok just tried that didn't work. I can't get into X, so I gotta do this > from the localhost login. > I got the right rpm. I'm in windows right now, because I'm even more > clueless on how to use a textbase operating system. (That would be 2 year > old explaination for that one I think) But tell me if I'm wrong shouldn't I > be able to put the rpm in the C drive under windows and still access it at > the root login that way. Or would I be better off putting it on a floppy? > - Original Message - > From: "Metamorphysical" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:32 AM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card > > > Disreguard that last email for a few and let me try this. passed right > > over > > > the start x thing. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Derek Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:13 AM > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card > > > > > On Tuesday 23 Jul 2002 11:53 am, Metamorphysical wrote: > > > > PLEASE, I'm slow at getting the hang of Mandrake so explain this to > > me > > > > > like a 5 year old. > > > > I just bought a GeForce4 Ti4400 and I need help on installing the > > > > drivers(RPM's?) from a command prompt. > > > > The Users guide says it supports Linux but I can't figure out how to > > > > install the rpm's. > > > > > > > > There are 3 listed on the Nvidia site: > > > > #1 Mandrake8.2 UP i586 Architecture > > > > #2 Mandrake 8.2 SMP i586 Architecture > > > > #3 Mandrake 8.2 Secure i586 Architecture > > > > > > > > I don't know what the UP, the SMP, or the Secure mean. Can someone > > > > help? > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Lost in Space > > > > Meta > > > > > > Do not worry. It is not too difficult. You do not even need to log out > > of > > > KDE > > > > > to install it. > > > > > > > > > UP means UniProcessor i.e. One CPU on your motherboard This is the one > > > > you > > > > > want. SMP means Symmetric Multi Processor. > > > > > > Download the GLX and kernel RPMs > > > > > > Note: These RPMs are for the STANDARD Mandrake8.2 kernel. If you have > > > upgraded your kernel then do not use them. > > > > > > > > > Install the GLX RPM first (Just click on it in Konqueror and it will > > > > install) > > > > > Install the kernel RPM > > > > > > Now you have to edit a file. Using KMenu>Applications>File Tools>File > > > Manager-SuperUserMode open the file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > > > > > > Locate the text > > > > > > Section "Module" > > > > > > and at the end of that section insert a line > > > > > > Load "glx" > > > > > > > > > > > > Now locate the text > > > > > > Section "Device" > > > Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce (generic)" > > > VendorName "Unknown" > > > BoardName "Unknown" > > > Driver "nv" > > > > > > and replace "nv" with "nvidia" > > > > > > save the file. Log out of KDE, and at the kdm log in screen select > > > Menu>Restart X > > > > > > The screen should flash a few times and then you should see an Nvidia > > > > splash > > > > > screen. > > > > > > That is it. All done. > > > > > > derek > > > > - > >- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
ok just tried that didn't work. I can't get into X, so I gotta do this from the localhost login. I got the right rpm. I'm in windows right now, because I'm even more clueless on how to use a textbase operating system. (That would be 2 year old explaination for that one I think) But tell me if I'm wrong shouldn't I be able to put the rpm in the C drive under windows and still access it at the root login that way. Or would I be better off putting it on a floppy? - Original Message - From: "Metamorphysical" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card > Disreguard that last email for a few and let me try this. passed right over > the start x thing. > - Original Message - > From: "Derek Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:13 AM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card > > > > On Tuesday 23 Jul 2002 11:53 am, Metamorphysical wrote: > > > PLEASE, I'm slow at getting the hang of Mandrake so explain this to me > > > like a 5 year old. > > > I just bought a GeForce4 Ti4400 and I need help on installing the > > > drivers(RPM's?) from a command prompt. > > > The Users guide says it supports Linux but I can't figure out how to > > > install the rpm's. > > > > > > There are 3 listed on the Nvidia site: > > > #1 Mandrake8.2 UP i586 Architecture > > > #2 Mandrake 8.2 SMP i586 Architecture > > > #3 Mandrake 8.2 Secure i586 Architecture > > > > > > I don't know what the UP, the SMP, or the Secure mean. Can someone > help? > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > Lost in Space > > > Meta > > > > > > Do not worry. It is not too difficult. You do not even need to log out of > KDE > > to install it. > > > > > > UP means UniProcessor i.e. One CPU on your motherboard This is the one > you > > want. SMP means Symmetric Multi Processor. > > > > Download the GLX and kernel RPMs > > > > Note: These RPMs are for the STANDARD Mandrake8.2 kernel. If you have > > upgraded your kernel then do not use them. > > > > > > Install the GLX RPM first (Just click on it in Konqueror and it will > install) > > Install the kernel RPM > > > > Now you have to edit a file. Using KMenu>Applications>File Tools>File > > Manager-SuperUserMode open the file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > > > > Locate the text > > > > Section "Module" > > > > and at the end of that section insert a line > > > > Load "glx" > > > > > > > > Now locate the text > > > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce (generic)" > > VendorName "Unknown" > > BoardName "Unknown" > > Driver "nv" > > > > and replace "nv" with "nvidia" > > > > save the file. Log out of KDE, and at the kdm log in screen select > > Menu>Restart X > > > > The screen should flash a few times and then you should see an Nvidia > splash > > screen. > > > > That is it. All done. > > > > derek > > > > > > > > > -- -- > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
Disreguard that last email for a few and let me try this. passed right over the start x thing. - Original Message - From: "Derek Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:13 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card > On Tuesday 23 Jul 2002 11:53 am, Metamorphysical wrote: > > PLEASE, I'm slow at getting the hang of Mandrake so explain this to me > > like a 5 year old. > > I just bought a GeForce4 Ti4400 and I need help on installing the > > drivers(RPM's?) from a command prompt. > > The Users guide says it supports Linux but I can't figure out how to > > install the rpm's. > > > > There are 3 listed on the Nvidia site: > > #1 Mandrake8.2 UP i586 Architecture > > #2 Mandrake 8.2 SMP i586 Architecture > > #3 Mandrake 8.2 Secure i586 Architecture > > > > I don't know what the UP, the SMP, or the Secure mean. Can someone help? > > > > Sincerely, > > Lost in Space > > Meta > > > Do not worry. It is not too difficult. You do not even need to log out of KDE > to install it. > > > UP means UniProcessor i.e. One CPU on your motherboard This is the one you > want. SMP means Symmetric Multi Processor. > > Download the GLX and kernel RPMs > > Note: These RPMs are for the STANDARD Mandrake8.2 kernel. If you have > upgraded your kernel then do not use them. > > > Install the GLX RPM first (Just click on it in Konqueror and it will install) > Install the kernel RPM > > Now you have to edit a file. Using KMenu>Applications>File Tools>File > Manager-SuperUserMode open the file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > > Locate the text > > Section "Module" > > and at the end of that section insert a line > > Load "glx" > > > > Now locate the text > > Section "Device" > Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce (generic)" > VendorName "Unknown" > BoardName "Unknown" > Driver "nv" > > and replace "nv" with "nvidia" > > save the file. Log out of KDE, and at the kdm log in screen select > Menu>Restart X > > The screen should flash a few times and then you should see an Nvidia splash > screen. > > That is it. All done. > > derek > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
One problem I'm not getting any GUI interface at all. I can't get to kde just comes up at localhost login. - Original Message - From: "Derek Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:13 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card > On Tuesday 23 Jul 2002 11:53 am, Metamorphysical wrote: > > PLEASE, I'm slow at getting the hang of Mandrake so explain this to me > > like a 5 year old. > > I just bought a GeForce4 Ti4400 and I need help on installing the > > drivers(RPM's?) from a command prompt. > > The Users guide says it supports Linux but I can't figure out how to > > install the rpm's. > > > > There are 3 listed on the Nvidia site: > > #1 Mandrake8.2 UP i586 Architecture > > #2 Mandrake 8.2 SMP i586 Architecture > > #3 Mandrake 8.2 Secure i586 Architecture > > > > I don't know what the UP, the SMP, or the Secure mean. Can someone help? > > > > Sincerely, > > Lost in Space > > Meta > > > Do not worry. It is not too difficult. You do not even need to log out of KDE > to install it. > > > UP means UniProcessor i.e. One CPU on your motherboard This is the one you > want. SMP means Symmetric Multi Processor. > > Download the GLX and kernel RPMs > > Note: These RPMs are for the STANDARD Mandrake8.2 kernel. If you have > upgraded your kernel then do not use them. > > > Install the GLX RPM first (Just click on it in Konqueror and it will install) > Install the kernel RPM > > Now you have to edit a file. Using KMenu>Applications>File Tools>File > Manager-SuperUserMode open the file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > > Locate the text > > Section "Module" > > and at the end of that section insert a line > > Load "glx" > > > > Now locate the text > > Section "Device" > Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce (generic)" > VendorName "Unknown" > BoardName "Unknown" > Driver "nv" > > and replace "nv" with "nvidia" > > save the file. Log out of KDE, and at the kdm log in screen select > Menu>Restart X > > The screen should flash a few times and then you should see an Nvidia splash > screen. > > That is it. All done. > > derek > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems Installing New Vid Card
On Tuesday 23 Jul 2002 11:53 am, Metamorphysical wrote: > PLEASE, I'm slow at getting the hang of Mandrake so explain this to me > like a 5 year old. > I just bought a GeForce4 Ti4400 and I need help on installing the > drivers(RPM's?) from a command prompt. > The Users guide says it supports Linux but I can't figure out how to > install the rpm's. > > There are 3 listed on the Nvidia site: > #1 Mandrake8.2 UP i586 Architecture > #2 Mandrake 8.2 SMP i586 Architecture > #3 Mandrake 8.2 Secure i586 Architecture > > I don't know what the UP, the SMP, or the Secure mean. Can someone help? > > Sincerely, > Lost in Space > Meta Do not worry. It is not too difficult. You do not even need to log out of KDE to install it. UP means UniProcessor i.e. One CPU on your motherboard This is the one you want. SMP means Symmetric Multi Processor. Download the GLX and kernel RPMs Note: These RPMs are for the STANDARD Mandrake8.2 kernel. If you have upgraded your kernel then do not use them. Install the GLX RPM first (Just click on it in Konqueror and it will install) Install the kernel RPM Now you have to edit a file. Using KMenu>Applications>File Tools>File Manager-SuperUserMode open the file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Locate the text Section "Module" and at the end of that section insert a line Load"glx" Now locate the text Section "Device" Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce (generic)" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Driver "nv" and replace "nv" with "nvidia" save the file. Log out of KDE, and at the kdm log in screen select Menu>Restart X The screen should flash a few times and then you should see an Nvidia splash screen. That is it. All done. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
