Re: [newbie] Question - school related -- Have we been conned????

2002-01-04 Thread Grant Fraser

Well, so far the other shoe hasn't dropped.

As for a targeted mail campain it would suck. They failed to ask for our 
names. I won't even get one of those:

Dear  MR SMITH we have recently heard that you surf for FOURTY PLUS hours 
per week.

Kind of letters.
They could have collected email addresses just by sifting the archives. Less 
effort, more results.
As for the lack of a .edu email, I think only the staff would get those. I 
thought that this sounded like a continuing education thing.

Some of the universities in my province are:
www.sfu.ca
www.uvic.ca
www.cariboo.bc.ca
www.ubc.ca
Not a dot edu in the bunch. Guess they're not American eh? :)

Remember. You aren't paranoid if the world really is out to get you.

Grant

On Friday 04 January 2002 18:55, you wrote:
 Gidday Folks
 I saw this email and immeadiately thought, unsigned, hm.
 No mention of which school this student is at, h.
 What's in the properties? H!!!??? Not coming from a .edu address, hmmm
 RCN Mail!!!???, not really what a student would put for their identity.

 Am I just a suspicious cynic, or has someone found an easy way to get
 people to fill in a survey without realising? This is a quote from the RCN
 website

 Yet with $2.7 billion in cash and backing by Microsoft Corp. cofounder
 Paul Allen and telecom firm Level 3 Communications Inc., RCN appears to be
 in better shape to survive the grim stock and capital markets than many
 other newbies. Among the new players, RCN has set itself apart by targeting
 residential customers, not businesses, and by building a network- home by
 home- to deliver cable-TV, high-speed Internet and phone service.

 I'd suggest that 50 have replied via the list and probably as many replied
 direct. Lots of assumptions have been made.
 The request was genuine.
 The author was a young lad
 The teacher made the questions.

 To quote Julian Hey, what the heck: statistics are for marketing folk
 Who is going to put a filter on their email to see if they get spammed to
 join RCN and let us know if they do?
 Or should I just go away and bury my cynical head in shame?

 rgrds
 max

 (They're in bed with MS as well.)

 - Original Message -
 From: RCN Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 5:26 PM
 Subject: [newbie] Question - school related so ignore if you want.

  I need to do a project for my statistics class and thought this place
  would be perfect for it. I need 50 people to answer this and it would be
  greatly appreciated.
 
  1. How many hours a week do you spend online?
  2. What is your age?
  3. Sex? M/F
  4. What type of Internet connection do you have?
  5. How many computers do you own?
 
 
  This is for a Elementary Statistics course for a project I am doing. It's
  a wintersession course and I need to collect this information ASAP. I
  need a total of 50 people to respond.
 
  Thanks again if you decide to answer these questions.

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Re: [newbie] Question - school related -- Have we been conned????

2002-01-04 Thread shane

pulling marketing data on MS's dime for selling internet connections to linux 
users

if nothing else that takes bal. err guts.  ;)

On Friday 04 January 2002 18:55, you spoke unto me thusly:

 Yet with $2.7 billion in cash and backing by Microsoft Corp. cofounder
 Paul Allen and telecom firm Level 3 Communications Inc., RCN appears to be
 in better shape to survive the grim stock and capital markets than many
 other newbies. Among the new players, RCN has set itself apart by targeting
 residential customers, not businesses, and by building a network- home by
 home- to deliver cable-TV, high-speed Internet and phone service.

-- 
If Microsoft is innovative in any area, it is in creating new forms of 
intimidation.  - Ralph Nader

shane
registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/
http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/
Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98
http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better!
Link different.
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Re: [newbie] Question - school related -- Have we been conned????

2002-01-04 Thread Julian Opificius

Or, from a slightly different perspective ...

My  favorite tag-line, which till now I've not used on this list, is

Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they AREN'T after me.

j.
===
At 10:15 PM 1/4/02 -0800, you wrote:
Well, so far the other shoe hasn't dropped.

As for a targeted mail campain it would suck. They failed to ask for our
names. I won't even get one of those:

Dear  MR SMITH we have recently heard that you surf for FOURTY PLUS hours
per week.

Kind of letters.
They could have collected email addresses just by sifting the archives. Less
effort, more results.
As for the lack of a .edu email, I think only the staff would get those. I
thought that this sounded like a continuing education thing.

Some of the universities in my province are:
www.sfu.ca
www.uvic.ca
www.cariboo.bc.ca
www.ubc.ca
Not a dot edu in the bunch. Guess they're not American eh? :)

Remember. You aren't paranoid if the world really is out to get you.

Grant


Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after me ...

Julian Opificius. ICQ 3268206.





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Re: [newbie] Question - school related -- Have we been conned????

2002-01-04 Thread Michael Viron

As for the lack of a .edu email, I think only the staff would get those. I 
thought that this sounded like a continuing education thing.

This depends on the University or institution in question.  For example, at
the University of West Florida (which I graduated from in Fall 2000),
students are given something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] .  Of course, as a
CS major, I also had accounts on the CS departmental server, as well as on
the lab sparcs.  I also have an account on a server run by a group called
Web Spinners, which I was one of the founding members for,
@wsdo.sao.uwf.edu or @webspinners.uwf.org .

Of course, in all cases, I was never technically 'staff' per-se,
(especially for the general / cs accounts), since I was (and still am) a
'volunteer' out there.

Michael

--
Michael Viron
Registered Linux User #81978
Senior Systems  Administration Consultant / Founder
Web Spinners, University of West Florida



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