Re: [newbie] Segmentation fault.

2004-08-07 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 07 August 2004 06:45 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 Suddenly xmms, gkrellm, gimp and probably others wont start, checking
 with a terminal shows seg. faults.
 Kontact, vi starts fine.  Closing session and reopening doesn't help and
 neither does rebooting.

Is this with all users?  You only named gtk apps above, does the same happen 
with KDE apps.  Have you made any hardware changes like added or removed 
memory?
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Re: [newbie] Segmentation fault???

2002-08-10 Thread Chris Spackman

On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:11:59 +0200
Tenchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, here is the original:
 
 -
 
 Hi everyone!
 
 I installed MDK 8.2 on one of my friend's computer. The install went
 pretty good. Everything seemed to work except for the soundcard. I
 downloaded drivers for it, so it works now too. I started setting it
 up with programs(nvidia drivers, openoffice, krusader etc...)and
 everything worked fine until I did a complete shutdown and a restart.
 There were no errors, but after that the Mandrake Control Center and
 rpmdrake exits with segmentation fault right before the password
 checking. When I started them in the terminal it simply said:
 segmentation fault. This is a big problem for me as I don't want to
 mess with text file config.

If you haven't already, try su'ing to root in the terminal and then
starting mcc or rpmdrake from there. This will skip asking for the root
password, which is one possible source of trouble. If it still doesn't
work, try actually loging in as root and running mcc or rpmdrake from an
entirely root environment. One of the 8.2 betas had a brief mcc bug
where environment variables were not properly set outside of kde. Maybe
this is a similar problem?

(of course, normally you should almost never log in as root, but since
we are bug-hunting here, it might be okay. just be sure to log out and
log back in as your regular user before playing games or surfing the
net. :-)


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Re: [newbie] Segmentation fault???

2002-08-09 Thread et

On Friday 09 August 2002 05:21 am, you wrote:
 Hi!

 I sent a letter 3 days ago about a seg. fault problem. Nobody encountered
 anything like this before?

 Can anyone help me?

 T.


perhaps there was not enough info in the original post (why not quote it 
again?) and then again, if you don't get an answer on the newbie list, 
perhaps the problem was to complicated and could be reposted to the expert 
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RE: [newbie] Segmentation fault???

2002-08-09 Thread Tenchi

Ok, here is the original:

-

Hi everyone!

I installed MDK 8.2 on one of my friend's computer. The install went pretty
good. Everything seemed to work except for the soundcard. I downloaded
drivers for it, so it works now too. I started setting it up with programs
(nvidia drivers, openoffice, krusader etc...)and everything worked fine
until I did a complete shutdown and a restart. There were no errors, but
after that the Mandrake Control Center and rpmdrake exits with segmentation
fault right before the password checking. When I started them in the
terminal it simply said: segmentation fault. This is a big problem for me as
I don't want to mess with text file config.

The hardware is:

motherboard: Asus TUSL-2C
CPU: Intel Celeron II, 800 MHz
RAM: 256 MB SDRAM, 133 MHz, works now on 100 MHz(Samsung?)
CD-ROM: TEAC 40x
CD-RW: TEAC 24x-10x-40x
Winchester: Quntum Fireball. 5400 RPM, works now on ATA66
Video card: Asus GeForce 2 MX.
Sound card: Diamond Monster Sound MX300
In the BIOS the following are disabled: modem, sound, COM ports, LPT
2 LAN cards: Linksys 10/100 Mbit, UTP

Please give suggestions as how to solve my problem.

Best regards,
T.


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On Friday 09 August 2002 05:21 am, you wrote:
 Hi!

 I sent a letter 3 days ago about a seg. fault problem. Nobody encountered
 anything like this before?

 Can anyone help me?

 T.


perhaps there was not enough info in the original post (why not quote it
again?) and then again, if you don't get an answer on the newbie list,
perhaps the problem was to complicated and could be reposted to the expert
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Re: [newbie] Segmentation fault???

2002-08-09 Thread Damian G

On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:11:59 +0200
Tenchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, here is the original:
 
 -
 
 Hi everyone!
 
 I installed MDK 8.2 on one of my friend's computer. The install went pretty
 good. Everything seemed to work except for the soundcard. I downloaded
 drivers for it, so it works now too. I started setting it up with programs
 (nvidia drivers, openoffice, krusader etc...)and everything worked fine
 until I did a complete shutdown and a restart. There were no errors, but
 after that the Mandrake Control Center and rpmdrake exits with segmentation
 fault right before the password checking. When I started them in the
 terminal it simply said: segmentation fault. This is a big problem for me as
 I don't want to mess with text file config.


i've seen this happen, too. there's no way of explaining this other
than 'it segfaults'. my problem used to happen by simply adding
a new ISA card to my system. it just plain crashes.

i don't think there's much of a fix to it, just try
deleting your temp files, ( /tmp, /usr/tmp, ~/tmp and so on ) 
and also since the system was recently installed, there won't be
much loss if you delete /var also. see if that helps. other than that, 
there is reinstalling all drak* tools

maybe someone that actually knows how these programs work
can tell you more ( maybe there's actually a fix which i
didn't know about ) but whenever i get those segfaults,
i'm simply forced to undo what made them stop working.


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Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-21 Thread David E. Fox

 I take it I should be able to use fsck (formatted
 correctly) *after* completing the shutdown. It seemed

Well, there's no sense in fscking the drives prior to shutdown - that
is done on power up. Assuming that you can shut down properly, however,
part of that process unmounts the partitions and then upon the next
reboot, these partitions are marked 'clean', and the fsck is bypassed.

 when I tried it again, using the Rescue option on the
 install CD to start, that entering fsck produced a no
 such command (or whatever).

That's strange. fsck should be there. Maybe it's 'e2fsck' but that
should just be an alias for the former anyway.

 It sounds as if you have been able to recover from
 this kind of problem in that way. Tha would give me
 some peace of mind. 

Plenty of times. I just log in to the rescue shell as directed, type fsck
and the partition name, wait for it to do its thing, and then I exit out
of the rescue shell and let it continue. But under normal operation you
shouldn't have to do this.



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Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-20 Thread Peter Rymshaw

Well, I'm reinstalled and have rebooted a half dozen
times in the past day or two with no more problems
(yet), so maybe...

--- JDRadio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Pete,
 Wish I had more idea's but I'm fresh oout.
 
 JoeD
 
 
 Peter Rymshaw wrote:
 
  Sent a message last night saying that all was fine
 now
  that (1) I erased all Linux partitions and then
  reinstall. (That allowd LILO to work.) and did the
 VIA
  bug fix (That eliminated the shut down error.) But
  then...
  
  BACK TO ZERO (although problem not identical)
  
  I was going to send this message saying that both
 the
  LILO problem and the shutdown problem were now
 fixed,
  and mention as an aside some business of the
  limitations of using rescue mode.
  
  But before I could do that, Linux locked up on me
  completely (as had sometimes happened in the past)
 and
  I had now choice but to turn off the machine. 
 When I
  restarted (LILO still OK), it went through the
 process
  of making fixes until it got to this:
  
  Checking root file system/dev/hdc1 contains a
 file
  system with ferrors, check forced /dev/hdc1
  Unattached mode 274111
  /dev/hdc1: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, RUN fsck
  manually, (without -a or -p options)
  Failed to check file system. Do you want to repair
 the
  errors (beware...)
  
  So, after a very brief period, I'm out of action
  again.
  
  I don't think that I can access the the file that
 I
  fixed from Rescue, so would have reinstall
 again.
  And, of course, I would still have the old problem
  when shuting down without reboot.
  
  Help anyone!
  
  
  
  --- JDRadio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Peter,
  When you boot the boot disk, it should come to a
  prompt boot:
  type linux enter
  and it should now be booting.
  
  
  Carroll is right about the VIA bug but don't know
 if
  it applies as
  you never said what the motherboard chipset was,
 or
  I missed it as I had to
  reinstall linux CAUSE I downloaded and installed
 the
  latest
  Mandrake FREQ dated 8-10-01 and it was worse then
  the last
  Freq update dated 06-01 so buyer beware...
  Also 3 others had the same problems.
  DO NOT INSTALL MANDRAKE FREQ 8-10-01..
  
  By the way KDE 2.2 is out and that looks great
 but I
  haven't installed 
  it yet..
  (I wonder why?)
  
  JoeD
  
  
  
  Peter Rymshaw wrote:
  
  Thanks Carroll:
  
  I didn't know about this, but bookmarked it so I
  
  can
  
  apply it later. Right now I'm having problems
 with
  lilo and cab only access rescue command line,
 from
  which I have been shutting down by ctrl-alt-del.
  
  The
  
  problem has never shown up with this or a
  
  Restart
  
  shutdown, so I couldn't test the results if I
 did
  
  it
  
  now.
  
  Whenever I get lilo working (can't seem to find
  lilo.conf)...
   
  --- Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
  Peter:
  Maybe you've already sorted this out, but just
 in
  case go to
  nlpagan.net/linux.htm. Towards the end of the
  
  page
  
  (look for a link to
  Mandrake User Organization), there's a note
 about
  repairing this problem
  that affects some VIA-based systems. I've never
  found out why it works,
  but it does.
  Regards,
  Carroll
  
  Peter Rymshaw wrote:
  
  big snip
  
  Here is what it said when it stopped the
  
  shutdown:
  
  Code: Bad EIP value.
  /etc/rc0.d/S01halt: line 1: 4054
  
  Segmentation
  
  fault
  
  halt -i -d -p
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Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-19 Thread etharp

Well we can bet we are working on different problems with each reinstall 
and you are learing a LOT too. this boot error is from a bad spot in the hard 
drive that may either have caused the freze or been the cause of the freeze. 
when you say linux locked up you do mean that the mouse and the keyboard 
had NO operation, and even trying  [Ctrl+Alt+f4] did not bring you to a text 
console? if it does get you to a text console, you could try and run top to 
see what was using all the computer's processes or memory to keep other 
programs from running. you can run fsk on the drive as root, or the next time 
you reinstall try using ReiserFS, as it recovers without the ned to run a 
filesystem checker. FSK (FileSystemchecK) is in some ways like scandisk in 
windows, in that when you do not shutdown correctly (with out unmounting the 
hard drives) it wants to check the hard drive for errors. it found one.

On Saturday 18 August 2001 12:25, Peter Rymshaw wrote:
 Sent a message last night saying that all was fine now
 that (1) I erased all Linux partitions and then
 reinstall. (That allowd LILO to work.) and did the VIA
 bug fix (That eliminated the shut down error.) But
 then...

 BACK TO ZERO (although problem not identical)

 I was going to send this message saying that both the
 LILO problem and the shutdown problem were now fixed,
 and mention as an aside some business of the
 limitations of using rescue mode.

 But before I could do that, Linux locked up on me
 completely (as had sometimes happened in the past) and
 I had now choice but to turn off the machine.  When I
 restarted (LILO still OK), it went through the process
 of making fixes until it got to this:

 Checking root file system/dev/hdc1 contains a file
 system with ferrors, check forced /dev/hdc1
 Unattached mode 274111
 /dev/hdc1: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, RUN fsck
 manually, (without -a or -p options)
 Failed to check file system. Do you want to repair the
 errors (beware...)

 So, after a very brief period, I'm out of action
 again.

 I don't think that I can access the the file that I
 fixed from Rescue, so would have reinstall again.
 And, of course, I would still have the old problem
 when shuting down without reboot.

 Help anyone!

 --- JDRadio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Peter,
  When you boot the boot disk, it should come to a
  prompt boot:
  type linux enter
  and it should now be booting.
 
 
  Carroll is right about the VIA bug but don't know if
  it applies as
  you never said what the motherboard chipset was, or
  I missed it as I had to
  reinstall linux CAUSE I downloaded and installed the
  latest
  Mandrake FREQ dated 8-10-01 and it was worse then
  the last
  Freq update dated 06-01 so buyer beware...
  Also 3 others had the same problems.
  DO NOT INSTALL MANDRAKE FREQ 8-10-01..
 
  By the way KDE 2.2 is out and that looks great but I
  haven't installed
  it yet..
  (I wonder why?)
 
  JoeD
 
  Peter Rymshaw wrote:
   Thanks Carroll:
  
   I didn't know about this, but bookmarked it so I
 
  can
 
   apply it later. Right now I'm having problems with
   lilo and cab only access rescue command line, from
   which I have been shutting down by ctrl-alt-del.
 
  The
 
   problem has never shown up with this or a
 
  Restart
 
   shutdown, so I couldn't test the results if I did
 
  it
 
   now.
  
   Whenever I get lilo working (can't seem to find
   lilo.conf)...
  
   --- Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Peter:
   Maybe you've already sorted this out, but just in
   case go to
   nlpagan.net/linux.htm. Towards the end of the
 
  page
 
   (look for a link to
   Mandrake User Organization), there's a note about
   repairing this problem
   that affects some VIA-based systems. I've never
   found out why it works,
   but it does.
   Regards,
   Carroll
  
   Peter Rymshaw wrote:
   big snip
  
   Here is what it said when it stopped the
  
   shutdown:
   Code: Bad EIP value.
   /etc/rc0.d/S01halt: line 1: 4054
  
   Segmentation
  
   fault
  
   halt -i -d -p
   -
  
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Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-19 Thread Peter Rymshaw

Yes, it locked up completely--no keyboard or mouse
access.

I simply typed fsck (nothing else) when it halted at
the first reboot attempt. I didn't record the
response, but it was one line and didn't seem to be an
I don't understand you. But it didn't seem to make
any difference.

As you probably suspect, I got impatiant and
reinstalled again. I'm warry of making the change
again in /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt as I don't know whether
this caused the freeze during operation as well as
eliminating the shutdown problem. For now, I'm just
selecting Reboot (which does the same thing as
contr/alt/del does) and then watch the screen and turn
off the computer after it reaches the restarting
sequence (before anything has started up).

This is frustrating, though. Besides for wanting to
seperate myself from the Microsoft dependency and
feeding the monopoly, and instead wanting to support
the open principles of Linux, I also wanted to get the
much claimed stability. But I'm having even more
crashes, and, unlike Win98, Linux doesn't seem to be
able to fix many of them even on rebooting. Also, it
would be nice if there was a graphic equivalent of
Window's :Safe Mode.

Well, I'm not giving up yet.

Thanks.
--- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well we can bet we are working on different problems
 with each reinstall 
 and you are learing a LOT too. this boot error is
 from a bad spot in the hard 
 drive that may either have caused the freze or been
 the cause of the freeze. 
 when you say linux locked up you do mean that the
 mouse and the keyboard 
 had NO operation, and even trying  [Ctrl+Alt+f4] did
 not bring you to a text 
 console? if it does get you to a text console, you
 could try and run top to 
 see what was using all the computer's processes or
 memory to keep other 
 programs from running. you can run fsk on the drive
 as root, or the next time 
 you reinstall try using ReiserFS, as it recovers
 without the ned to run a 
 filesystem checker. FSK (FileSystemchecK) is in some
 ways like scandisk in 
 windows, in that when you do not shutdown correctly
 (with out unmounting the 
 hard drives) it wants to check the hard drive for
 errors. it found one.
 
 On Saturday 18 August 2001 12:25, Peter Rymshaw
 wrote:
  Sent a message last night saying that all was fine
 now
  that (1) I erased all Linux partitions and then
  reinstall. (That allowd LILO to work.) and did the
 VIA
  bug fix (That eliminated the shut down error.) But
  then...
 
  BACK TO ZERO (although problem not identical)
 
  I was going to send this message saying that both
 the
  LILO problem and the shutdown problem were now
 fixed,
  and mention as an aside some business of the
  limitations of using rescue mode.
 
  But before I could do that, Linux locked up on me
  completely (as had sometimes happened in the past)
 and
  I had now choice but to turn off the machine. 
 When I
  restarted (LILO still OK), it went through the
 process
  of making fixes until it got to this:
 
  Checking root file system/dev/hdc1 contains a
 file
  system with ferrors, check forced /dev/hdc1
  Unattached mode 274111
  /dev/hdc1: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, RUN fsck
  manually, (without -a or -p options)
  Failed to check file system. Do you want to repair
 the
  errors (beware...)
 
  So, after a very brief period, I'm out of action
  again.
 
  I don't think that I can access the the file that
 I
  fixed from Rescue, so would have reinstall
 again.
  And, of course, I would still have the old problem
  when shuting down without reboot.
 
  Help anyone!
 
  --- JDRadio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Peter,
   When you boot the boot disk, it should come to a
   prompt boot:
   type linux enter
   and it should now be booting.
  
  
   Carroll is right about the VIA bug but don't
 know if
   it applies as
   you never said what the motherboard chipset was,
 or
   I missed it as I had to
   reinstall linux CAUSE I downloaded and installed
 the
   latest
   Mandrake FREQ dated 8-10-01 and it was worse
 then
   the last
   Freq update dated 06-01 so buyer beware...
   Also 3 others had the same problems.
   DO NOT INSTALL MANDRAKE FREQ 8-10-01..
  
   By the way KDE 2.2 is out and that looks great
 but I
   haven't installed
   it yet..
   (I wonder why?)
  
   JoeD
  
   Peter Rymshaw wrote:
Thanks Carroll:
   
I didn't know about this, but bookmarked it so
 I
  
   can
  
apply it later. Right now I'm having problems
 with
lilo and cab only access rescue command line,
 from
which I have been shutting down by
 ctrl-alt-del.
  
   The
  
problem has never shown up with this or a
  
   Restart
  
shutdown, so I couldn't test the results if I
 did
  
   it
  
now.
   
Whenever I get lilo working (can't seem to
 find
lilo.conf)...
   
--- Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
Peter:
Maybe you've already sorted this out, but
 just in
case go to
nlpagan.net/linux.htm. Towards the end of the
  
   page
  
(look for 

Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-19 Thread Peter Rymshaw

Thanks. I'll add to my file. But both hard drives are
less than 6 months old and the mobo only a little
older. In fact, about the only thing old on the box is
the box itself--new motherboard, processor, memory,
cd-rom, floppy.

--- erylon hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My first guess is your hard drive is going
 south--second guess is a bad ide 
 controller on the mobo.  Even if it works in
 Windoze--that's not a good 
 indication--linux is less forgiving of bad hardware
 because the system is 
 written to use it to the max of its capabilities.
 
 eryl
 
 Saturday 18 August 2001 09:25, Peter Rymshaw wrote:
 
   
 
  Checking root file system/dev/hdc1 contains a
 file
  system with ferrors, check forced /dev/hdc1
  Unattached mode 274111
  /dev/hdc1: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, RUN fsck
  manually, (without -a or -p options)
  Failed to check file system. Do you want to repair
 the
  errors (beware...)
 
  So, after a very brief period, I'm out of action
  again.
 
 
  Help anyone!
 




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Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-19 Thread David E. Fox

 Thanks. I'll add to my file. But both hard drives are
 less than 6 months old and the mobo only a little

Peter - did you run the fsck as it suggested? These types
of errors are fairly rare (if you shut down correctly) but they
in themselves don't seem to be an indicatino of bad hardware. 

I'd reboot and follow through with the fsck - just type 'fsck /dev/hdc1'
without any options. Once the system goes through the filesystem check,
you'll be able to reboot to a (hopefully) clean system.



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Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-19 Thread David E. Fox

 I simply typed fsck (nothing else) when it halted at
 the first reboot attempt. I didn't record the

fsck requires at least one argument - the partition to check.

 As you probably suspect, I got impatiant and
 reinstalled again. I'm warry of making the change
 again in /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt as I don't know whether

I've never gotten my mandrake setup to shut down completely 
clean. I've not had this problem with other distributions I've
used in the past. But with mandrake (7.2) it just doesn't seem to
get to the point where it can shut the power off, so I have to 
reset and run through the fsck procedures.

 much claimed stability. But I'm having even more
 crashes, and, unlike Win98, Linux doesn't seem to be
 able to fix many of them even on rebooting. Also, it

That's strange - for me, ext2 has been far more stable than
dosfs/windows has been. I haven't even had to reboot for some
two months now.

 would be nice if there was a graphic equivalent of
 Window's :Safe Mode.

I am not sure what that would accomplish.


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Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-19 Thread Peter Rymshaw

I take it I should be able to use fsck (formatted
correctly) *after* completing the shutdown. It seemed
when I tried it again, using the Rescue option on the
install CD to start, that entering fsck produced a no
such command (or whatever).

It sounds as if you have been able to recover from
this kind of problem in that way. Tha would give me
some peace of mind. 

What's nice about Windows Safe mode is that it's not a
command line, tht's all.

Thanks.

--- David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  I simply typed fsck (nothing else) when it halted
 at
  the first reboot attempt. I didn't record the
 
 fsck requires at least one argument - the partition
 to check.
 
  As you probably suspect, I got impatiant and
  reinstalled again. I'm warry of making the change
  again in /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt as I don't know
 whether
 
 I've never gotten my mandrake setup to shut down
 completely 
 clean. I've not had this problem with other
 distributions I've
 used in the past. But with mandrake (7.2) it just
 doesn't seem to
 get to the point where it can shut the power off, so
 I have to 
 reset and run through the fsck procedures.
 
  much claimed stability. But I'm having even more
  crashes, and, unlike Win98, Linux doesn't seem to
 be
  able to fix many of them even on rebooting. Also,
 it
 
 That's strange - for me, ext2 has been far more
 stable than
 dosfs/windows has been. I haven't even had to reboot
 for some
 two months now.
 
  would be nice if there was a graphic equivalent of
  Window's :Safe Mode.
 
 I am not sure what that would accomplish.
 


 David E. Fox  Thanks for
 letting me
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Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-18 Thread Peter Rymshaw

Sent a message last night saying that all was fine now
that (1) I erased all Linux partitions and then
reinstall. (That allowd LILO to work.) and did the VIA
bug fix (That eliminated the shut down error.) But
then...

BACK TO ZERO (although problem not identical)

I was going to send this message saying that both the
LILO problem and the shutdown problem were now fixed,
and mention as an aside some business of the
limitations of using rescue mode.

But before I could do that, Linux locked up on me
completely (as had sometimes happened in the past) and
I had now choice but to turn off the machine.  When I
restarted (LILO still OK), it went through the process
of making fixes until it got to this:

Checking root file system/dev/hdc1 contains a file
system with ferrors, check forced /dev/hdc1
Unattached mode 274111
/dev/hdc1: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, RUN fsck
manually, (without -a or -p options)
Failed to check file system. Do you want to repair the
errors (beware...)

So, after a very brief period, I'm out of action
again.

I don't think that I can access the the file that I
fixed from Rescue, so would have reinstall again.
And, of course, I would still have the old problem
when shuting down without reboot.

Help anyone!



--- JDRadio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Peter,
 When you boot the boot disk, it should come to a
 prompt boot:
 type linux enter
 and it should now be booting.
 
 
 Carroll is right about the VIA bug but don't know if
 it applies as
 you never said what the motherboard chipset was, or
 I missed it as I had to
 reinstall linux CAUSE I downloaded and installed the
 latest
 Mandrake FREQ dated 8-10-01 and it was worse then
 the last
 Freq update dated 06-01 so buyer beware...
 Also 3 others had the same problems.
 DO NOT INSTALL MANDRAKE FREQ 8-10-01..
 
 By the way KDE 2.2 is out and that looks great but I
 haven't installed 
 it yet..
 (I wonder why?)
 
 JoeD
 
 
 
 Peter Rymshaw wrote:
 
  Thanks Carroll:
  
  I didn't know about this, but bookmarked it so I
 can
  apply it later. Right now I'm having problems with
  lilo and cab only access rescue command line, from
  which I have been shutting down by ctrl-alt-del.
 The
  problem has never shown up with this or a
 Restart
  shutdown, so I couldn't test the results if I did
 it
  now.
  
  Whenever I get lilo working (can't seem to find
  lilo.conf)...
   
  --- Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Peter:
  Maybe you've already sorted this out, but just in
  case go to
  nlpagan.net/linux.htm. Towards the end of the
 page
  (look for a link to
  Mandrake User Organization), there's a note about
  repairing this problem
  that affects some VIA-based systems. I've never
  found out why it works,
  but it does.
  Regards,
  Carroll
  
  Peter Rymshaw wrote:
  
  big snip
  
  Here is what it said when it stopped the
  
  shutdown:
  
  Code: Bad EIP value.
  /etc/rc0.d/S01halt: line 1: 4054
  
  Segmentation
  
  fault
  
  halt -i -d -p
  -
  
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Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-17 Thread Carroll Grigsby

Peter:
Maybe you've already sorted this out, but just in case go to
nlpagan.net/linux.htm. Towards the end of the page (look for a link to
Mandrake User Organization), there's a note about repairing this problem
that affects some VIA-based systems. I've never found out why it works,
but it does.
Regards,
Carroll

Peter Rymshaw wrote:
 
 big snip

 Here is what it said when it stopped the
  shutdown:

 Code: Bad EIP value.
 /etc/rc0.d/S01halt: line 1: 4054 Segmentation
   
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Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-17 Thread Peter Rymshaw

Thanks Carroll:

I didn't know about this, but bookmarked it so I can
apply it later. Right now I'm having problems with
lilo and cab only access rescue command line, from
which I have been shutting down by ctrl-alt-del. The
problem has never shown up with this or a Restart
shutdown, so I couldn't test the results if I did it
now.

Whenever I get lilo working (can't seem to find
lilo.conf)...
 
--- Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Peter:
 Maybe you've already sorted this out, but just in
 case go to
 nlpagan.net/linux.htm. Towards the end of the page
 (look for a link to
 Mandrake User Organization), there's a note about
 repairing this problem
 that affects some VIA-based systems. I've never
 found out why it works,
 but it does.
 Regards,
 Carroll
 
 Peter Rymshaw wrote:
  
  big snip
 
  Here is what it said when it stopped the
   shutdown:
 
  Code: Bad EIP value.
  /etc/rc0.d/S01halt: line 1: 4054
 Segmentation

 fault

  halt -i -d -p
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Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-17 Thread JDRadio

Peter,
When you boot the boot disk, it should come to a prompt boot:
type linux enter
and it should now be booting.


Carroll is right about the VIA bug but don't know if it applies as
you never said what the motherboard chipset was, or I missed it as I had to
reinstall linux CAUSE I downloaded and installed the latest
Mandrake FREQ dated 8-10-01 and it was worse then the last
Freq update dated 06-01 so buyer beware...
Also 3 others had the same problems.
DO NOT INSTALL MANDRAKE FREQ 8-10-01..

By the way KDE 2.2 is out and that looks great but I haven't installed 
it yet..
(I wonder why?)

JoeD



Peter Rymshaw wrote:

 Thanks Carroll:
 
 I didn't know about this, but bookmarked it so I can
 apply it later. Right now I'm having problems with
 lilo and cab only access rescue command line, from
 which I have been shutting down by ctrl-alt-del. The
 problem has never shown up with this or a Restart
 shutdown, so I couldn't test the results if I did it
 now.
 
 Whenever I get lilo working (can't seem to find
 lilo.conf)...
  
 --- Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Peter:
 Maybe you've already sorted this out, but just in
 case go to
 nlpagan.net/linux.htm. Towards the end of the page
 (look for a link to
 Mandrake User Organization), there's a note about
 repairing this problem
 that affects some VIA-based systems. I've never
 found out why it works,
 but it does.
 Regards,
 Carroll
 
 Peter Rymshaw wrote:
 
 big snip
 
 Here is what it said when it stopped the
 
 shutdown:
 
 Code: Bad EIP value.
 /etc/rc0.d/S01halt: line 1: 4054
 
 Segmentation
 
 fault
 
 halt -i -d -p
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Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-14 Thread etharp

Move the video card to the slot next to the AGP slot, it requires a bus 
master slot, just try it and humour me?


On Monday 13 August 2001 23:47, Peter Rymshaw wrote:
 OK, I tried JDRadio's suggestion of new memory by
 removing my 63MG and replacing it with a new 128MB
 (bought at BestBuys for $19.95 after rebates) and
 reinstalled without specifying mem.  It's running nice
 and fast, but no change otherwise. I still get the
 error message if I shutdown without reboot.

 I did the two cat commands and saw a bunch of info,
 but non of it meant much to me--contents of bus
 includes a SiS controller; since interrupts didn't
 report IRQ numbers, I didn't understand any of that.
 No mention anywhere of conflicts, though.

 No, my video card is not next to the AGP. Let me be
 specific. Going from bottom to top on the left hand
 edge of the mobo, I have 3 ISA slots and then 4 PCI.
 Slightly inboard and above (like the slots for the com
 ports) is the AGP connector. So there is no PCI slot
 next to the AGP in the sense of being along side of it
 in the same row. But if you mean is the card as close
 as it could be (ie, in the top-most PCI, the answer is
 no, it is in the third one down.

 I don't understand how this could make a difference,
 but I will move it up to the top of the row so it will
 be geographically closest to the AGP slot.

 I also will move things around so that there is
 nothing in the second slot.  Earlier you mentioned
 having nothing next to the video card.

 Also, plug and play is turned off in the bios

 Also, you suggested making both hard drives masters on
 the two channels. Right now the drive that Windows is
 on is ist Master and the Linux is first Slave (with
 the CD-ROM 2nd Master. I'll change this around and
 make the CD-ROM (2nd Slave?). But if I do this is my
 computer likely to not be able to find any of the new
 locations? I don't want to lose access to my CD-ROM.
 Will Windows assign it a different drive letter?

as long as it is configured correctly in the computer BIOS and it finds the 
drive they will still get the same drive letters and no data should be lost. 
as long as the video card is PCI and in the slot next to AGP, you don't need 
to worry about a card next to it, that was for an AGP video card not sharing 
that top slot w/ an PCI card 

 Thanks.

 --- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  well,,, maybe
  Don't worry about my time, I am here of my own free
  will and enjoy it for the
  heck of it and the learning I receive for free.
 
  it seems to me we might be getting some where tho,
  is the card in the slot
  next to the AGP slot? It should be, and that would
  be the first thing to try
  if it is not. have you tried (when running linux, in
  a text console, as root,
  without the quotes) cat /proc/pci and cat
  /proc/interupts for more
  information about possible pci and IRQ asingnments
  and confilcts?
 
  I would bet you can still use the card, depending on
  how great graphics you
  need, (and that is without checking the hardware
  list at
  http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/hardware.php3) but
  I bet you will get a few
  folks to tell you for hi-end video cards Ge-force
  w/nvida chips is da way to
  go.
 
  On Sunday 12 August 2001 1903:30, Peter Rymshaw
 
  wrote:
   This is in reply to both of your messages. As I
   thought, I appear to have a PCI video card.  My
   computer shop receipt says that they installed SiS
   6326 PCI VC4MAGP3D   S# B46N3151, which I
 
  think is
 
   ambiguous, but the card is definitely plugged into
 
  a
 
   PCI slot and my AGP slot inside ib the board is
 
  empty.
 
   I was going to ask you a series of questions
 
  regarding
 
   my vidio card replacement options re
   Sis/other/AGP/PCI, but your next message and some
 
  of
 
   my own thinking prompts me to go in another
 
  direction.
 
   Do you think maybe I can stay with this card even
   though it is a PCI? Is does seem to be working.
   Mandrake Control Center reports it as Sis 6326 (no
   reference to AGP or PCI). Furthur, it has me using
   XFree 4.0.6., but presents options of 3.3.6.,
 
  3.3.6.
 
   Experimental, and 4.0.6.Experimental (all of which
   might freeze the computer. Danger!)
  
   I was going to ask you about these and how I could
   change back to my current setting from the command
   line if I tried it and failed.
  
   But now I see your latest message.  Do you think I
   should try the other changes to my hardware? That
 
  is,
 
   do you think that I still might be able to work
 
  things
 
   out with existing card?
  
   Sorry to take up so much time, if you're not sure,
   I'll just go ahead and try and see how it goes.
  
   Thanks.
  
   --- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
can you make sure that Plug and pray OS is set
 
  to
 
off, and that you do not
have any card next to the video card, and that
 
  the
 
hard drives are set up as
masters on there own IDE channel (believe me, it
could well be worth the 

Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-13 Thread Peter Rymshaw

OK, I tried JDRadio's suggestion of new memory by
removing my 63MG and replacing it with a new 128MB
(bought at BestBuys for $19.95 after rebates) and
reinstalled without specifying mem.  It's running nice
and fast, but no change otherwise. I still get the
error message if I shutdown without reboot.

I did the two cat commands and saw a bunch of info,
but non of it meant much to me--contents of bus
includes a SiS controller; since interrupts didn't
report IRQ numbers, I didn't understand any of that.
No mention anywhere of conflicts, though.

No, my video card is not next to the AGP. Let me be
specific. Going from bottom to top on the left hand
edge of the mobo, I have 3 ISA slots and then 4 PCI.
Slightly inboard and above (like the slots for the com
ports) is the AGP connector. So there is no PCI slot
next to the AGP in the sense of being along side of it
in the same row. But if you mean is the card as close
as it could be (ie, in the top-most PCI, the answer is
no, it is in the third one down.

I don't understand how this could make a difference,
but I will move it up to the top of the row so it will
be geographically closest to the AGP slot.

I also will move things around so that there is
nothing in the second slot.  Earlier you mentioned
having nothing next to the video card.

Also, plug and play is turned off in the bios

Also, you suggested making both hard drives masters on
the two channels. Right now the drive that Windows is
on is ist Master and the Linux is first Slave (with
the CD-ROM 2nd Master. I'll change this around and
make the CD-ROM (2nd Slave?). But if I do this is my
computer likely to not be able to find any of the new
locations? I don't want to lose access to my CD-ROM.
Will Windows assign it a different drive letter?

Thanks.
--- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 well,,, maybe 
 Don't worry about my time, I am here of my own free
 will and enjoy it for the 
 heck of it and the learning I receive for free.
 
 it seems to me we might be getting some where tho,
 is the card in the slot 
 next to the AGP slot? It should be, and that would
 be the first thing to try 
 if it is not. have you tried (when running linux, in
 a text console, as root, 
 without the quotes) cat /proc/pci and cat
 /proc/interupts for more 
 information about possible pci and IRQ asingnments
 and confilcts? 
 
 I would bet you can still use the card, depending on
 how great graphics you 
 need, (and that is without checking the hardware
 list at  
 http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/hardware.php3) but
 I bet you will get a few 
 folks to tell you for hi-end video cards Ge-force
 w/nvida chips is da way to 
 go. 
 
 On Sunday 12 August 2001 1903:30, Peter Rymshaw
 wrote:
  This is in reply to both of your messages. As I
  thought, I appear to have a PCI video card.  My
  computer shop receipt says that they installed SiS
  6326 PCI VC4MAGP3D   S# B46N3151, which I
 think is
  ambiguous, but the card is definitely plugged into
 a
  PCI slot and my AGP slot inside ib the board is
 empty.
 
  I was going to ask you a series of questions
 regarding
  my vidio card replacement options re
  Sis/other/AGP/PCI, but your next message and some
 of
  my own thinking prompts me to go in another
 direction.
 
  Do you think maybe I can stay with this card even
  though it is a PCI? Is does seem to be working.
  Mandrake Control Center reports it as Sis 6326 (no
  reference to AGP or PCI). Furthur, it has me using
  XFree 4.0.6., but presents options of 3.3.6.,
 3.3.6.
  Experimental, and 4.0.6.Experimental (all of which
  might freeze the computer. Danger!)
 
  I was going to ask you about these and how I could
  change back to my current setting from the command
  line if I tried it and failed.
 
  But now I see your latest message.  Do you think I
  should try the other changes to my hardware? That
 is,
  do you think that I still might be able to work
 things
  out with existing card?
 
  Sorry to take up so much time, if you're not sure,
  I'll just go ahead and try and see how it goes.
 
  Thanks.
 
  --- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   can you make sure that Plug and pray OS is set
 to
   off, and that you do not
   have any card next to the video card, and that
 the
   hard drives are set up as
   masters on there own IDE channel (believe me, it
   could well be worth the time
   to set the jumpers a cables if you get this
 right).
   next i would consider a
   good test program for your ram. the differences
 in
   the install may have been
   choices you made as far as expert and
   recomended. I am no where near
   expericanced enough to decipher your error, but
 I
   bet someone here will in
   the next couple of days.
  
   On Sunday 12 August 2001 14:06, Peter Rymshaw
 wrote:
Well, progress but I don't know whether it
 will
  
   stick
  
or not.
   
I have 64MB of memory, so I installed as
 mem=060.
  
   The
  
istallation went very smoothly, although I was
  
   given a
  
warning at 

Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-12 Thread erylon hines

On Sunday 12 August 2001 11:06, Peter Rymshaw wrote:
 Well, progress but I don't know whether it will stick
 or not.

Are you absolutely sure that the 6326 card that you have is an AGP and not 
PCI?  The way I read the video hardware compatiblility list, only the AGP 
version is supported.  I have an SIS6326 AGP with 4meg on board, and I have 
no problems at all with it inXF86 ver 4.x

eryl




Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-12 Thread etharp

can you make sure that Plug and pray OS is set to off, and that you do not 
have any card next to the video card, and that the hard drives are set up as 
masters on there own IDE channel (believe me, it could well be worth the time 
to set the jumpers a cables if you get this right). next i would consider a 
good test program for your ram. the differences in the install may have been 
choices you made as far as expert and recomended. I am no where near 
expericanced enough to decipher your error, but I bet someone here will in 
the next couple of days. 

On Sunday 12 August 2001 14:06, Peter Rymshaw wrote:
 Well, progress but I don't know whether it will stick
 or not.

 I have 64MB of memory, so I installed as mem=060. The
 istallation went very smoothly, although I was given a
 warning at the very beginning about being low on
 memory. The other things that I noticed was that there
 was no sight of a bar filling across the screen before
 going into second stage like in previous installs,
 just a hestitation. I never saw the number of programs
 that would be downloader, as I did before, but there
 was the picture show about all the great things I was
 getting, which I don't think I've been seeing lately.
 Also, that I did not need to insert the second CD at
 all.

 But the problem is that when I chose Sutdown (not
 Restart)I still got a message about segmentation fault
 rather than a complete termination at the end of the
 shutdown process.  Ctr Alt Del at this point made the
 machine end and restart.

 So I tried restarting--no problem.  This time I shut
 down and selected Restart (not Shutdown) and I saw no
 errors. But I remember this kind of behavior before
 for a while until it simply wouldn't restart after a
 while, so I'm still not sure that I'm OK.

 Here is what it said when it stopped the shutdown:

 Code: Bad EIP value.
 /etc/rc0.d/S01halt: line 1: 4054 Segmentation fault
 halt -i -d -p
 -

 I decided to try reinstalling by cutting back on the
 memory setting even more, so I reinstalled with
 mem=055.

 It went through the whole installation fine, but could
 not start X, would only run in command mode.  So I
 reinstalled once again with my mem=060 and everything
 is OK *for now* to the extent above.

 I plan to shut down now with the Restart option.
 Unless, that error message tells you that I have
 something I should do, I'll just wait and see if the
 fix holds or not.

 Thanks again.

 --- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I know it must seem like I ask a BUNCH of questions,
  but the more info we
  have the more likely to find the problem. Have you
  tried the install with
  specifying a few lower meg ram than the amount you
  are reported to have? (At
  the splash screen hit F1 And type linux mem=xxxM
  without the quotes and
  with a number representing the RAM available as xxx.
   this was
  linux mem=120M after subtracting 8 meg from 128
  meg reported
  do you have a card in the slot next to the video
  card (a no-no w/n agp video
  card)
 
  On Saturday 11 August 2001 20:01, Peter Rymshaw
 
  wrote:
   -what vidoe card do you have? is it onboard the
 
  MOBO?
 
   **It is a SIS PCI  6326VC4MAGP3D. It's a card
 
  plugged
 
   into one of the expansion slots.
  
does it share memory from the MoBo?
  
   **I have no idea.
  
are the hard drive set as master on there own ide
   channel?
  
   **The hard drives are master and slave on the
 
  first.
 
   is the CD ROM set to slave on it's own channel?
  
   **The CD ROM is *master* on the other channel.
  
is the BIOS correctly ID the HD?
  
   **Yes.
  
   and do you have the same problems with winder$?
  
   **No.
  
   do you try and delete tmp files?
  
   **No, is that likely to matter? I will..
  
sounds like you might have problems with the pio
 
  or
 
   dma settngs on te hard drives, but could be a load
 
  of
 
   different things. what brand of HD? model? speed?
 
  how
 
   are you formating it? has this hosed the winder$
   install?
  
   **One's a Maxtor, one's a Western. Don't know the
   models off hand. Been using either the Linux
   installation option or Partion Magic 4.0 to
 
  reformat
 
   the Linux Partions each attempt.  Both drives were
   originally formated as FAT 32, but my for my most
   recent attempts I've formatted the entire drive
 
  for
 
   Linux. (PM shows just one partion, Ext2, occupying
 
  the
 
   whole drive.  *Should I be seeing the swap and
   personal partitions seperately?  I think I did at
 
  one
 
   time*.
  
   *Thanks.  Does this info help any?
  
   Pete R.
  
   On Saturday 11 August 2001 13:44, Peter Rymshaw
 
  wrote:
Segmentation errors or faults have prevented me
 
  from
 
operating and now even installing
Mandrake 8 (from 2 CD unpackaged version).  From
 
  the
 
beginning I had difficulties in
installation, (sometimes while it was installing
programs, sometimes during post-installation
steps) , was eventually successful and had it
  

Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-12 Thread Peter Rymshaw

This is in reply to both of your messages. As I
thought, I appear to have a PCI video card.  My
computer shop receipt says that they installed SiS
6326 PCI VC4MAGP3D   S# B46N3151, which I think is
ambiguous, but the card is definitely plugged into a
PCI slot and my AGP slot inside ib the board is empty.

I was going to ask you a series of questions regarding
my vidio card replacement options re
Sis/other/AGP/PCI, but your next message and some of
my own thinking prompts me to go in another direction.

Do you think maybe I can stay with this card even
though it is a PCI? Is does seem to be working.
Mandrake Control Center reports it as Sis 6326 (no
reference to AGP or PCI). Furthur, it has me using
XFree 4.0.6., but presents options of 3.3.6., 3.3.6.
Experimental, and 4.0.6.Experimental (all of which
might freeze the computer. Danger!)

I was going to ask you about these and how I could
change back to my current setting from the command
line if I tried it and failed.

But now I see your latest message.  Do you think I
should try the other changes to my hardware? That is,
do you think that I still might be able to work things
out with existing card?

Sorry to take up so much time, if you're not sure,
I'll just go ahead and try and see how it goes.

Thanks.
--- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 can you make sure that Plug and pray OS is set to
 off, and that you do not 
 have any card next to the video card, and that the
 hard drives are set up as 
 masters on there own IDE channel (believe me, it
 could well be worth the time 
 to set the jumpers a cables if you get this right).
 next i would consider a 
 good test program for your ram. the differences in
 the install may have been 
 choices you made as far as expert and
 recomended. I am no where near 
 expericanced enough to decipher your error, but I
 bet someone here will in 
 the next couple of days. 
 
 On Sunday 12 August 2001 14:06, Peter Rymshaw wrote:
  Well, progress but I don't know whether it will
 stick
  or not.
 
  I have 64MB of memory, so I installed as mem=060.
 The
  istallation went very smoothly, although I was
 given a
  warning at the very beginning about being low on
  memory. The other things that I noticed was that
 there
  was no sight of a bar filling across the screen
 before
  going into second stage like in previous installs,
  just a hestitation. I never saw the number of
 programs
  that would be downloader, as I did before, but
 there
  was the picture show about all the great things I
 was
  getting, which I don't think I've been seeing
 lately.
  Also, that I did not need to insert the second CD
 at
  all.
 
  But the problem is that when I chose Sutdown (not
  Restart)I still got a message about segmentation
 fault
  rather than a complete termination at the end of
 the
  shutdown process.  Ctr Alt Del at this point made
 the
  machine end and restart.
 
  So I tried restarting--no problem.  This time I
 shut
  down and selected Restart (not Shutdown) and I saw
 no
  errors. But I remember this kind of behavior
 before
  for a while until it simply wouldn't restart after
 a
  while, so I'm still not sure that I'm OK.
 
  Here is what it said when it stopped the shutdown:
 
  Code: Bad EIP value.
  /etc/rc0.d/S01halt: line 1: 4054 Segmentation
 fault
  halt -i -d -p
  -
 
  I decided to try reinstalling by cutting back on
 the
  memory setting even more, so I reinstalled with
  mem=055.
 
  It went through the whole installation fine, but
 could
  not start X, would only run in command mode.  So I
  reinstalled once again with my mem=060 and
 everything
  is OK *for now* to the extent above.
 
  I plan to shut down now with the Restart option.
  Unless, that error message tells you that I have
  something I should do, I'll just wait and see if
 the
  fix holds or not.
 
  Thanks again.
 
  --- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I know it must seem like I ask a BUNCH of
 questions,
   but the more info we
   have the more likely to find the problem. Have
 you
   tried the install with
   specifying a few lower meg ram than the amount
 you
   are reported to have? (At
   the splash screen hit F1 And type linux
 mem=xxxM
   without the quotes and
   with a number representing the RAM available as
 xxx.
this was
   linux mem=120M after subtracting 8 meg from
 128
   meg reported
   do you have a card in the slot next to the video
   card (a no-no w/n agp video
   card)
  
   On Saturday 11 August 2001 20:01, Peter Rymshaw
  
   wrote:
-what vidoe card do you have? is it onboard
 the
  
   MOBO?
  
**It is a SIS PCI  6326VC4MAGP3D. It's a card
  
   plugged
  
into one of the expansion slots.
   
 does it share memory from the MoBo?
   
**I have no idea.
   
 are the hard drive set as master on there own
 ide
channel?
   
**The hard drives are master and slave on the
  
   first.
  
is the CD ROM set to slave on it's own
 channel?
   
**The CD ROM is *master* on the other 

Re: [newbie] segmentation fault on shutdown and then install

2001-08-12 Thread etharp

well,,, maybe 
Don't worry about my time, I am here of my own free will and enjoy it for the 
heck of it and the learning I receive for free.

it seems to me we might be getting some where tho, is the card in the slot 
next to the AGP slot? It should be, and that would be the first thing to try 
if it is not. have you tried (when running linux, in a text console, as root, 
without the quotes) cat /proc/pci and cat /proc/interupts for more 
information about possible pci and IRQ asingnments and confilcts? 

I would bet you can still use the card, depending on how great graphics you 
need, (and that is without checking the hardware list at  
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/hardware.php3) but I bet you will get a few 
folks to tell you for hi-end video cards Ge-force w/nvida chips is da way to 
go. 

On Sunday 12 August 2001 1903:30, Peter Rymshaw wrote:
 This is in reply to both of your messages. As I
 thought, I appear to have a PCI video card.  My
 computer shop receipt says that they installed SiS
 6326 PCI VC4MAGP3D   S# B46N3151, which I think is
 ambiguous, but the card is definitely plugged into a
 PCI slot and my AGP slot inside ib the board is empty.

 I was going to ask you a series of questions regarding
 my vidio card replacement options re
 Sis/other/AGP/PCI, but your next message and some of
 my own thinking prompts me to go in another direction.

 Do you think maybe I can stay with this card even
 though it is a PCI? Is does seem to be working.
 Mandrake Control Center reports it as Sis 6326 (no
 reference to AGP or PCI). Furthur, it has me using
 XFree 4.0.6., but presents options of 3.3.6., 3.3.6.
 Experimental, and 4.0.6.Experimental (all of which
 might freeze the computer. Danger!)

 I was going to ask you about these and how I could
 change back to my current setting from the command
 line if I tried it and failed.

 But now I see your latest message.  Do you think I
 should try the other changes to my hardware? That is,
 do you think that I still might be able to work things
 out with existing card?

 Sorry to take up so much time, if you're not sure,
 I'll just go ahead and try and see how it goes.

 Thanks.

 --- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  can you make sure that Plug and pray OS is set to
  off, and that you do not
  have any card next to the video card, and that the
  hard drives are set up as
  masters on there own IDE channel (believe me, it
  could well be worth the time
  to set the jumpers a cables if you get this right).
  next i would consider a
  good test program for your ram. the differences in
  the install may have been
  choices you made as far as expert and
  recomended. I am no where near
  expericanced enough to decipher your error, but I
  bet someone here will in
  the next couple of days.
 
  On Sunday 12 August 2001 14:06, Peter Rymshaw wrote:
   Well, progress but I don't know whether it will
 
  stick
 
   or not.
  
   I have 64MB of memory, so I installed as mem=060.
 
  The
 
   istallation went very smoothly, although I was
 
  given a
 
   warning at the very beginning about being low on
   memory. The other things that I noticed was that
 
  there
 
   was no sight of a bar filling across the screen
 
  before
 
   going into second stage like in previous installs,
   just a hestitation. I never saw the number of
 
  programs
 
   that would be downloader, as I did before, but
 
  there
 
   was the picture show about all the great things I
 
  was
 
   getting, which I don't think I've been seeing
 
  lately.
 
   Also, that I did not need to insert the second CD
 
  at
 
   all.
  
   But the problem is that when I chose Sutdown (not
   Restart)I still got a message about segmentation
 
  fault
 
   rather than a complete termination at the end of
 
  the
 
   shutdown process.  Ctr Alt Del at this point made
 
  the
 
   machine end and restart.
  
   So I tried restarting--no problem.  This time I
 
  shut
 
   down and selected Restart (not Shutdown) and I saw
 
  no
 
   errors. But I remember this kind of behavior
 
  before
 
   for a while until it simply wouldn't restart after
 
  a
 
   while, so I'm still not sure that I'm OK.
  
   Here is what it said when it stopped the shutdown:
  
   Code: Bad EIP value.
   /etc/rc0.d/S01halt: line 1: 4054 Segmentation
 
  fault
 
   halt -i -d -p
   -
  
   I decided to try reinstalling by cutting back on
 
  the
 
   memory setting even more, so I reinstalled with
   mem=055.
  
   It went through the whole installation fine, but
 
  could
 
   not start X, would only run in command mode.  So I
   reinstalled once again with my mem=060 and
 
  everything
 
   is OK *for now* to the extent above.
  
   I plan to shut down now with the Restart option.
   Unless, that error message tells you that I have
   something I should do, I'll just wait and see if
 
  the
 
   fix holds or not.
  
   Thanks again.
  
   --- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know it must seem like I ask a BUNCH of
 
 

Re: [newbie] segmentation fault at shut down

2001-07-26 Thread Carroll Grigsby

Root: Go to
www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/troubles/tquick1.html
and check out the last item on that page about GPF's after shutdown.
You've got to edit your /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt file and change the -i -d
-p option to -i -d. IIRC, Paul Pagan has this fix on his site as well,
but I've lost the address. I had this problem with 7.1, 7.2 and 8.0 on
some installations, but not this box -- perhaps because it has a newer
BIOS. The actual code is different across the LM versions, but you
shouldn't have any problem.
By the way, I'll give an authentic attaboy to anyone who can tell me
what the different options mean.
Regards,
Carroll


root wrote:
 
 when shutting down, not rebooting, I am getting an odd segmentation fault.  I
 don't get it on warm reboot since the problem occurs after the path diverges
 for reboot vs shut down.  I have to power off to get out of it.
 
 message sequence in log is:
 
 halting system
 stopping all md devices
 power down
 general protection fault: f000
 CPU:0
 EIP:0050:[872b]
 EFLAGS:00010047
 
 bunch of registers elided here
 
 Process Halt (PID:1319 Stackpage: c5add000)
 
 stack dump elided here
 
 CALL TRACE
 
 CODE: BAD EIP VALUE
 /etc/rc0.d/s01halt: line 1: 1319 segmentation fault halt -i -d -p
 
 tia
 --
 Gentlemen, it's in beta.  That means it's like Windows.  They're letting you
 test it while they continue to screw it up until it's totally useless.
 (Bigg Fredd in RCC talking about Google's temporary interface to the deja
 archives)




Re: [newbie] Segmentation Fault

2001-05-04 Thread AKC Chu

Hi,

I think Segmentation fault is a bug or an error in the program, I think
you'll have to wait for a bug fix or a newer version of that software.

Hope that helps,

Aaron

On Fri, 4 May 2001, SoloCDM wrote:

 How can a Segmentation Fault be corrected?  No RPM installations
 or uninstalls are allowed.  FYI, /var/lib/rpm was backed up before
 the error.
 
 Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing
   list/newsgroup address and my email address in To:.
 
 *
 Signed,
 SoloCDM
 
 





Re: [newbie] Segmentation Fault

2001-05-04 Thread Michael D. Viron

This sounds like a problem with the rpm database, not with the program
itself.  You'll need to run the following commands as root:

rpm --initdb
rpm --rebuilddb

This should take care of it.

Michael

--
Michael Viron
Senior Systems  Administration Consultant
Web Spinners, University of West Florida

At 01:44 PM 05/04/2001 +0100, AKC Chu wrote:
Hi,

I think Segmentation fault is a bug or an error in the program, I think
you'll have to wait for a bug fix or a newer version of that software.

Hope that helps,

Aaron

On Fri, 4 May 2001, SoloCDM wrote:

 How can a Segmentation Fault be corrected?  No RPM installations
 or uninstalls are allowed.  FYI, /var/lib/rpm was backed up before
 the error.
 
 Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing
   list/newsgroup address and my email address in To:.
 
 *
 Signed,
 SoloCDM
 
 






Re: [newbie] Segmentation Fault

2001-05-04 Thread Petre Daniel

On Fri, 4 May 2001, Michael D. Viron wrote:

 This sounds like a problem with the rpm database, not with the program
 itself.  You'll need to run the following commands as root:
 
 rpm --initdb
 rpm --rebuilddb
 
 This should take care of it.
 
heya,this is what i get doing the previous commands:
 rpm --initdb
/usr/lib/rpm/rpmdb: /lib/libdb.so.2: no version information available
(required
by /usr/lib/librpm.so.0)

I should mention that i have mdk 7.2 and i updated kinda' forced and
patched tp rpm 4 and now i can't to anything with the rpm manager...
Anyone can help me?
thx

 Michael
 

 --
 Michael Viron
 Senior Systems  Administration Consultant
 Web Spinners, University of West Florida
 
 At 01:44 PM 05/04/2001 +0100, AKC Chu wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I think Segmentation fault is a bug or an error in the program, I think
 you'll have to wait for a bug fix or a newer version of that software.
 
 Hope that helps,
 
 Aaron
 
 On Fri, 4 May 2001, SoloCDM wrote:
 
  How can a Segmentation Fault be corrected?  No RPM installations
  or uninstalls are allowed.  FYI, /var/lib/rpm was backed up before
  the error.
  
  Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing
list/newsgroup address and my email address in To:.
  
  *
  Signed,
  SoloCDM
  
  
 
 
 





Re: [newbie] segmentation fault

2001-01-02 Thread civileme

On Monday 01 January 2001 21:06, you wrote:
 Yea, I tried running it from both the KDE app launcher, the desktop icon
 and also using /usr/bin/netscape from the terminal.  Same result.

 TIA for any help.  Someone else suggested deleting all netscape dirs and
 reinstalling.  Is that the best solution?

 --Kevin

Log in as each user

rm -r ~/.netscape -f

Leave the nsmail file alone if you are using it for email

Civileme


 - Original Message -
 From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 3:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] segmentation fault

  On Sunday 31 December 2000 21:33, you wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I was running netscape 4.76.0x on my LM 7.1 system and netscape
   crashed. Now when trying to run netscape I get a "segementation fault
   (core

 dumped)

   message.
  
   I uninstalled the netscape RPMs and installed the 4.76.3x version from
   rpmfind.net in the LM dir.  Both common and communicator RPMs installed
   fine, but I _still_ get the segmentation fault when trying to start
   netscape.
  
   Any advice on what a segmentation fault is and how I can fix it? Or do
   I need to reinstall linux?
  
   Thanks.
   --Kevin
 
  Ummm, no, you need to clean netscape.  Reinstalling linux is not

 necessary;

  the base system is stable.
 
  A segmentation fault means that the segment registers in the processor
  are pointing at the wrong area of memory.  Most likely the problem lies
  with

 the

  WM you are running.
 
  If
 
  /usr/bin/netscape
 
  brings up netscape from a terminal, it is almost certainly the launcher
  of the WM.
 
  If that is the problem, there are fixes.  Try that and report what
  happens
 
  Civileme




Re: [newbie] segmentation fault

2001-01-01 Thread civileme

On Sunday 31 December 2000 21:33, you wrote:
 Hi,

 I was running netscape 4.76.0x on my LM 7.1 system and netscape crashed.
 Now when trying to run netscape I get a "segementation fault (core dumped)
 message.

 I uninstalled the netscape RPMs and installed the 4.76.3x version from
 rpmfind.net in the LM dir.  Both common and communicator RPMs installed
 fine, but I _still_ get the segmentation fault when trying to start
 netscape.

 Any advice on what a segmentation fault is and how I can fix it? Or do I
 need to reinstall linux?

 Thanks.
 --Kevin


Ummm, no, you need to clean netscape.  Reinstalling linux is not necessary; 
the base system is stable.

A segmentation fault means that the segment registers in the processor are 
pointing at the wrong area of memory.  Most likely the problem lies with the 
WM you are running.  

If 

/usr/bin/netscape 

brings up netscape from a terminal, it is almost certainly the launcher of 
the WM.

If that is the problem, there are fixes.  Try that and report what happens

Civileme




Re: [newbie] segmentation fault

2001-01-01 Thread Kevin Taylor

Yea, I tried running it from both the KDE app launcher, the desktop icon and
also using /usr/bin/netscape from the terminal.  Same result.

TIA for any help.  Someone else suggested deleting all netscape dirs and
reinstalling.  Is that the best solution?

--Kevin

- Original Message -
From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 3:39 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] segmentation fault


 On Sunday 31 December 2000 21:33, you wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I was running netscape 4.76.0x on my LM 7.1 system and netscape crashed.
  Now when trying to run netscape I get a "segementation fault (core
dumped)
  message.
 
  I uninstalled the netscape RPMs and installed the 4.76.3x version from
  rpmfind.net in the LM dir.  Both common and communicator RPMs installed
  fine, but I _still_ get the segmentation fault when trying to start
  netscape.
 
  Any advice on what a segmentation fault is and how I can fix it? Or do I
  need to reinstall linux?
 
  Thanks.
  --Kevin


 Ummm, no, you need to clean netscape.  Reinstalling linux is not
necessary;
 the base system is stable.

 A segmentation fault means that the segment registers in the processor are
 pointing at the wrong area of memory.  Most likely the problem lies with
the
 WM you are running.

 If

 /usr/bin/netscape

 brings up netscape from a terminal, it is almost certainly the launcher of
 the WM.

 If that is the problem, there are fixes.  Try that and report what happens

 Civileme








Re: [newbie] segmentation fault

2001-01-01 Thread Anthony

Try deleting your .netscape folder. Just make sure you copy the 
bookmarks.html file into a safe place so you don't have to rebuild all your 
bookmarks again.

 Hi,

 I was running netscape 4.76.0x on my LM 7.1 system and netscape crashed.
 Now when trying to run netscape I get a "segementation fault (core dumped)
 message.

 I uninstalled the netscape RPMs and installed the 4.76.3x version from
 rpmfind.net in the LM dir.  Both common and communicator RPMs installed
 fine, but I _still_ get the segmentation fault when trying to start
 netscape.

 Any advice on what a segmentation fault is and how I can fix it? Or do I
 need to reinstall linux?

 Thanks.
 --Kevin

-- 
Anthony
http://binaryfusion.net
Press any key to continue, or any other key to quit.




RE: [newbie] segmentation fault

2001-01-01 Thread OPJOSE

Instead of uninstalling Netscape and the like first try removing all the 
"~/.netscaXXX" related files in your home directory.

I've found that if indexes are screwed up, Netscape will quite with SIG-11's.

You can save off your bookmarks temporarily and move them back after you've resolved 
the problem.

Re-installing merely replicates the original problem...

-JMS


---
Yea, I tried running it from both the KDE app launcher, the desktop icon and
also using /usr/bin/netscape from the terminal.  Same result.

TIA for any help.  Someone else suggested deleting all netscape dirs and
reinstalling.  Is that the best solution?

--Kevin

- Original Message -
From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 3:39 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] segmentation fault


 On Sunday 31 December 2000 21:33, you wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I was running netscape 4.76.0x on my LM 7.1 system and netscape crashed.
  Now when trying to run netscape I get a "segementation fault (core
dumped)
  message.
 
  I uninstalled the netscape RPMs and installed the 4.76.3x version from
  rpmfind.net in the LM dir.  Both common and communicator RPMs installed
  fine, but I _still_ get the segmentation fault when trying to start
  netscape.
 
  Any advice on what a segmentation fault is and how I can fix it? Or do I
  need to reinstall linux?
 
  Thanks.
  --Kevin


 Ummm, no, you need to clean netscape.  Reinstalling linux is not
necessary;
 the base system is stable.

 A segmentation fault means that the segment registers in the processor are
 pointing at the wrong area of memory.  Most likely the problem lies with
the
 WM you are running.

 If

 /usr/bin/netscape

 brings up netscape from a terminal, it is almost certainly the launcher of
 the WM.

 If that is the problem, there are fixes.  Try that and report what happens

 Civileme










RE: [newbie] segmentation fault

2000-12-31 Thread Charles A Edwards

This problem has surfaced before with other versions of Netscape.
Sorry, but I do not remember what the solution was.
Check the Archive for Newbie and Expert you should be able to find the
posting there.

   Charles  (-:

Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Taylor
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 3:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] segmentation fault


Hi,

I was running netscape 4.76.0x on my LM 7.1 system and netscape crashed.
Now when trying to run netscape I get a "segementation fault (core dumped)
message.

I uninstalled the netscape RPMs and installed the 4.76.3x version from
rpmfind.net in the LM dir.  Both common and communicator RPMs installed
fine, but I _still_ get the segmentation fault when trying to start
netscape.

Any advice on what a segmentation fault is and how I can fix it? Or do I
need to reinstall linux?

Thanks.
--Kevin








Re: [newbie] segmentation fault

2000-12-31 Thread Romanator

Kevin Taylor wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I was running netscape 4.76.0x on my LM 7.1 system and netscape crashed.
 Now when trying to run netscape I get a "segementation fault (core dumped)
 message.
 
 I uninstalled the netscape RPMs and installed the 4.76.3x version from
 rpmfind.net in the LM dir.  Both common and communicator RPMs installed
 fine, but I _still_ get the segmentation fault when trying to start
 netscape.
 
 Any advice on what a segmentation fault is and how I can fix it? Or do I
 need to reinstall linux?
 
 Thanks.
 --Kevin

Kevin,

If you get a segmentation fault, ensure that you:

a) Uninstall
b) Delete the program folder
c) Install the program to /usr/local or /usr/bin

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293




Re: [newbie] Segmentation fault (solved)

2000-10-22 Thread Andrew Scotchmer

On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, you wrote:

 Hi Andrew,
 
 I received that message a few times. Log in as root and send the
 Realplayer7 folder to trash. Run the installation to
 /usr/local/Realplayer7
 or
 /usr/X11R6/bin/RealPlayer7
 
 -- 
 Roman
 Registered Linux User #179293

Roman,

Cheers for that, it's now up and running again.

Weird how it just decided to pack in (and exactly at the time when I rebooted
only to find that Linux had also decided to completely change my desktop style).

Anyway I changed the directory to /usr/local as you suggested and placed a link
in /usr/lib where it originally was and where netscape looks and now all is
back to normal.  

Any offers on for how long?

Andrew





Re: [newbie] segmentation fault?

1999-11-21 Thread John Aldrich

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 I tried from a console window within KDE and I unpack it whit tar xfv
 file.tar
 Oder.

I don't recall how I did it, but you might try running ./setup (or
whatever) from a console TTY (NOT a console window.) I don't know why
it would make any difference, but it might. 
I forget...did you use the Star Office Tarball off the CDROM or did
you download it? I downloaded it and it works fine for me...
John



Re: [newbie] segmentation fault?

1999-11-21 Thread John Aldrich

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Oder Santos wrote:
 
  John Aldrich wrote:
   
   On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
   
My processor is a intel 200MHz with MMX, 96 MB EDO DRAM - notebook
toshiba 315 CDS - and 350MB free drive space. regards, Oder.
   
   Hmm..Pentium 200mmxI don't see anything obvious here Have you
   tried from a console window within X as well as from console prompt?
   IIRC, the directory names sound correct...how did you unpack it?
   John
  
  
  Hi John,
  I tried from a console window within KDE and I unpack it whit tar xfv
  file.tar
  Oder.
 
 try testing the archive "tar tvf foo.tar" (isn't that supposed tobe a
 tgz though?) 
 
Nope. I checked the one I downloaded from Sun/Stardivision. It's a
tarball, not a tgz. :-)
John



Re: [newbie] segmentation fault?

1999-11-20 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Oder Santos wrote:

 John Aldrich wrote:
  
  On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  
   My processor is a intel 200MHz with MMX, 96 MB EDO DRAM - notebook
   toshiba 315 CDS - and 350MB free drive space. regards, Oder.
  
  Hmm..Pentium 200mmxI don't see anything obvious here Have you
  tried from a console window within X as well as from console prompt?
  IIRC, the directory names sound correct...how did you unpack it?
  John
 
 
 Hi John,
 I tried from a console window within KDE and I unpack it whit tar xfv
 file.tar
 Oder.

try testing the archive "tar tvf foo.tar" (isn't that supposed tobe a
tgz though?) 

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



Re: [newbie] segmentation fault?

1999-11-20 Thread John Aldrich

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 
 My processor is a intel 200MHz with MMX, 96 MB EDO DRAM - notebook
 toshiba 315 CDS - and 350MB free drive space. regards, Oder.

Hmm..Pentium 200mmxI don't see anything obvious here Have you
tried from a console window within X as well as from console prompt?
IIRC, the directory names sound correct...how did you unpack it?
John



Re: [newbie] segmentation fault?

1999-11-20 Thread Oder Santos

John Aldrich wrote:
 
 On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  I am really new to linux and I have just downloaded Star Office 5.1a but
  after "untar" so51a and try ./setup in office51 I saw this message:
  segmentation fault (core dumped). What is this? Does anyone could help
  me? Thanks in advance, Oder.
 
 Hmm...sounds like a bad/grunged archive, or something
 similar. Mine worked just fine out of the archive.
 
 What processor are you on? How much memory? How much free
 drive space?
 John

Thanks John,

My processor is a intel 200MHz with MMX, 96 MB EDO DRAM - notebook
toshiba 315 CDS - and 350MB free drive space. regards, Oder.



Re: [newbie] segmentation fault?

1999-01-17 Thread John Aldrich

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 I am really new to linux and I have just downloaded Star Office 5.1a but
 after "untar" so51a and try ./setup in office51 I saw this message:
 segmentation fault (core dumped). What is this? Does anyone could help
 me? Thanks in advance, Oder.

Hmm...sounds like a bad/grunged archive, or something
similar. Mine worked just fine out of the archive.

What processor are you on? How much memory? How much free
drive space?
John