Re: [newbie] System is rebooting on its own
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Mark wrote: On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Roger Sherman wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Chris wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 07:32 pm, Dennis Myers decided to hunt and peck on the keyboard and typed: On Friday 07 March 2003 05:24 pm, Chris wrote: Ok, let me try with a different subject, may just reboot didn't catch anyones eye. I came home from work at 5:15 and my system had apparently rebooted itself about 15 minutes ago. I can't find any reason for this at all. I've checked the logs. This also happened yesterday. Can anyone I have had this happen a couple of times and it turned out to be a momentary power hit on our home line. Squirrels committing suicide on the transformers interupt power for a couple of miliseconds and bingo the comp reboots. UPS solved the problem. Could be your right Dennis, hadn't thought about that, it is real close to spring here in Tx. Not enough of a 'hit' to mess up the clocks are anything else. I'll have to check into a ups. Thanks Heh...I have a UPS, and my PC still does that once in a while... Yeah, but ya'll live in New Jersey! :P Well, at the end of the day, there is some good fortune then...:-D -- peace, Rog Jersey to the bone, and proud of it! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] System is rebooting on its own
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Roger Sherman wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Chris wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 07:32 pm, Dennis Myers decided to hunt and peck on the keyboard and typed: On Friday 07 March 2003 05:24 pm, Chris wrote: Ok, let me try with a different subject, may just reboot didn't catch anyones eye. I came home from work at 5:15 and my system had apparently rebooted itself about 15 minutes ago. I can't find any reason for this at all. I've checked the logs. This also happened yesterday. Can anyone I have had this happen a couple of times and it turned out to be a momentary power hit on our home line. Squirrels committing suicide on the transformers interupt power for a couple of miliseconds and bingo the comp reboots. UPS solved the problem. Could be your right Dennis, hadn't thought about that, it is real close to spring here in Tx. Not enough of a 'hit' to mess up the clocks are anything else. I'll have to check into a ups. Thanks Heh...I have a UPS, and my PC still does that once in a while... Yeah, but ya'll live in New Jersey! :P -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] System is rebooting on its own
On Friday 07 March 2003 11:57 pm, David Williams decided to hunt and peck on the keyboard and typed: On Friday 07 March 2003 06:24 pm, Chris wrote: anyones eye. I came home from work at 5:15 and my system had apparently rebooted itself about 15 minutes ago. I can't find any reason for this at all. I've checked the logs. This also happened yesterday. Can anyone Just out of curiousity, is it rebooting at the same time or some multiple of time or is it random. It seems like its a random event. -- Regards Chris Registered Linux user #283774 @ http://counter.li.org 7:52am up 14:05, 3 users, load average: 0.01, 0.07, 0.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] System is rebooting on its own
Chris wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 11:57 pm, David Williams decided to hunt and peck on the keyboard and typed: On Friday 07 March 2003 06:24 pm, Chris wrote: anyones eye. I came home from work at 5:15 and my system had apparently rebooted itself about 15 minutes ago. I can't find any reason for this at all. I've checked the logs. This also happened yesterday. Can anyone Just out of curiousity, is it rebooting at the same time or some multiple of time or is it random. It seems like its a random event. You don't have a green monitor ? (TCO marked) John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] System is rebooting on its own
On Saturday 08 March 2003 09:52 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Chris wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 11:57 pm, David Williams decided to hunt and peck on the keyboard and typed: On Friday 07 March 2003 06:24 pm, Chris wrote: anyones eye. I came home from work at 5:15 and my system had apparently rebooted itself about 15 minutes ago. I can't find any reason for this at all. I've checked the logs. This also happened yesterday. Can anyone Just out of curiousity, is it rebooting at the same time or some multiple of time or is it random. It seems like its a random event. You don't have a green monitor ? (TCO marked) John I just have to say, do you think anyone would even have noticed (or not just expected it) if this box was running win95? IMHO that this thread even exists is a great reason to use Mandrake-Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] System is rebooting on its own
Chris wrote: On Saturday 08 March 2003 08:52 am, John Richard Smith decided to hunt and peck on the keyboard and typed: anyones eye. I came home from work at 5:15 and my system had apparently rebooted itself about 15 minutes ago. I can't find any reason for this at all. I've checked the logs. This also happened yesterday. Can anyone Just out of curiousity, is it rebooting at the same time or some multiple of time or is it random. It seems like its a random event. You don't have a green monitor ? (TCO marked) John Ok, John, not wanting to really appear stupid on the list I'll reply off-list. If you mean, a powersaving monitor, yes I do, is it enabled, no its not. If you meant something else, please let me know. No, that's exactly what I mean, because I think it is something to do with the problem, I have had something similar, none of this I can prove beyond all doubt, but these power management systems are getting complicated. First , there is bios putting it's ore in, in my case bios not only manages it's own powerdown system , but also manages to monitor in the green state irq traffic , as well as screen mode or state , and I dare say other things as well. Second you have the OS's own screensave, and powerdown aspects. Most of this can be shut off, but on M9.0 powersave does not shut down effectively.Not even on the command line. Third , These TCO monitors ( known as green monitors, becuase of their low energy consumption when in the powerdown state) have some sort of chip based programme built into then, in other words they control themselves by reading the state of the CPU / Memory / keyboard / mouse use, and I suspect something is not right about the way Mandrake handles these issues. None of this is proven. I'm just gessing it. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] System is rebooting on its own
On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 02:02, Chris wrote: I had thought about that also Stephen. I did a few calculations. The xscreen saver kicked in about 10:15 last night and as of 7:30 this morning hadn't rebooted. I have 118 screensavers ticked and its set to randomly pick one. The time between savers is 2 minutes. So, if it did run through them all, its possibly not xscreensaver, but if it didn't run all of them, then it could still be the key. I guess the only way to find out for sure is to run one at a time and see. If I wanted to try and track this down by checking logs, where would I start Stephen? I'd start in several manners - just out of habit: 1.) Check BIOS settings for the RAM and system speed and the likes 2.) Set all HD parameters to optimal settings 3.) Check the video drivers (or update them and make sure the proper settings are in the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 as per the graphics card) 4.) Check all path statements in /etc/profile and in the /etc/ld.so.conf for any path conflicts or library conflicts 5.) Make sure that all file systems are checked (fsck) so that all inconsistencies are repaired 6.) Turn off all unnecessary services that are running in the background 7.) Clean out anything unnecessary in the /tmp directory 8.) Monitor your logfiles: /var/log/messages /var/log/XFree86.0.log What I still haven't heard about this issue, though, is when did the machine work properly last? What has changed or been modified or installed since that time? -- Sun, 9 Mar 2003 06:00:00 +1100 6:00am up 19:04, 5 users, load average: 1.15, 0.92, 0.66 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | || | linux user:267497 * RH 7.3/8.1 * Mandrake 9.1 * Microsoft Free | | PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Web/Graphics/Consulting | -- Mix's Law: There is nothing more permanent than a temporary building. There is nothing more permanent than a temporary tax. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] System is rebooting on its own
Sorry, I wasn't following this before, but might your power supply be on it's last legs? Do you have another power supply you can slap in there as a test? Miark On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:24:43 -0600 Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, let me try with a different subject, may just reboot didn't catch anyones eye. I came home from work at 5:15 and my system had apparently rebooted itself about 15 minutes ago. I can't find any reason for this at all. I've checked the logs. This also happened yesterday. Can anyone possibly come up with a reason. I'm running Mandrake 9.0. The only apps I've added lately is XScreensaver but I can't see how/why it would cause this. -- Regards Chris Registered Linux user #283774 @ http://counter.li.org 5:21pm up 2 min, 1 user, load average: 1.18, 0.58, 0.22 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] System is rebooting on its own
On Friday 07 March 2003 07:32 pm, Dennis Myers decided to hunt and peck on the keyboard and typed: On Friday 07 March 2003 05:24 pm, Chris wrote: Ok, let me try with a different subject, may just reboot didn't catch anyones eye. I came home from work at 5:15 and my system had apparently rebooted itself about 15 minutes ago. I can't find any reason for this at all. I've checked the logs. This also happened yesterday. Can anyone I have had this happen a couple of times and it turned out to be a momentary power hit on our home line. Squirrels committing suicide on the transformers interupt power for a couple of miliseconds and bingo the comp reboots. UPS solved the problem. Could be your right Dennis, hadn't thought about that, it is real close to spring here in Tx. Not enough of a 'hit' to mess up the clocks are anything else. I'll have to check into a ups. Thanks -- Regards Chris Registered Linux user #283774 @ http://counter.li.org 7:33pm up 1:46, 3 users, load average: 0.37, 0.21, 0.10 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] System is rebooting on its own
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Chris wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 07:32 pm, Dennis Myers decided to hunt and peck on the keyboard and typed: On Friday 07 March 2003 05:24 pm, Chris wrote: Ok, let me try with a different subject, may just reboot didn't catch anyones eye. I came home from work at 5:15 and my system had apparently rebooted itself about 15 minutes ago. I can't find any reason for this at all. I've checked the logs. This also happened yesterday. Can anyone I have had this happen a couple of times and it turned out to be a momentary power hit on our home line. Squirrels committing suicide on the transformers interupt power for a couple of miliseconds and bingo the comp reboots. UPS solved the problem. Could be your right Dennis, hadn't thought about that, it is real close to spring here in Tx. Not enough of a 'hit' to mess up the clocks are anything else. I'll have to check into a ups. Thanks Heh...I have a UPS, and my PC still does that once in a while... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] System is rebooting on its own
On Thursday 06 March 2003 08:34 pm, Roger Sherman wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Chris wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 07:32 pm, Dennis Myers decided to hunt and peck on the keyboard and typed: On Friday 07 March 2003 05:24 pm, Chris wrote: Ok, let me try with a different subject, may just reboot didn't catch anyones eye. I came home from work at 5:15 and my system had apparently rebooted itself about 15 minutes ago. I can't find any reason for this at all. I've checked the logs. This also happened yesterday. Can anyone I have had this happen a couple of times and it turned out to be a momentary power hit on our home line. Squirrels committing suicide on the transformers interupt power for a couple of miliseconds and bingo the comp reboots. UPS solved the problem. Could be your right Dennis, hadn't thought about that, it is real close to spring here in Tx. Not enough of a 'hit' to mess up the clocks are anything else. I'll have to check into a ups. Thanks Heh...I have a UPS, and my PC still does that once in a while... Yeah, I think if the hit is less time than the 3nanosec response of the UPS then the comp still reboots but UPS doesn't have time to kick in. That too has happened here. Somewhere in my neighborhood there should be a pole with about 2ft of squirrel parts and pieces laying by it. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] System is rebooting on its own
Could be your right Dennis, hadn't thought about that, it is real close to spring here in Tx. Not enough of a 'hit' to mess up the clocks are anything else. I'll have to check into a ups. Thanks Might be a good idea. My power here in Sunnyvale CA is pretty clean, no reboots for a while (4 months and counting) but down in San Jose where I work our bulding has had two or three brief power glitches where the ligths go out for maybe a second or so. Our mainframe and other related stuff is on a UPS, but all the PCs in the office start rebooting :(. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] System is rebooting on its own
On Friday 07 March 2003 06:24 pm, Chris wrote: Ok, let me try with a different subject, may just reboot didn't catch anyones eye. I came home from work at 5:15 and my system had apparently rebooted itself about 15 minutes ago. I can't find any reason for this at all. I've checked the logs. This also happened yesterday. Can anyone possibly come up with a reason. I'm running Mandrake 9.0. The only apps I've added lately is XScreensaver but I can't see how/why it would cause this. Just out of curiousity, is it rebooting at the same time or some multiple of time or is it random. -- ( ) ( ) ( 0 0 ) ---( )--- o Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question Registered Linux user #300497 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] System is rebooting on its own
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 16:57, David Williams wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 06:24 pm, Chris wrote: Ok, let me try with a different subject, may just reboot didn't catch anyones eye. I came home from work at 5:15 and my system had apparently rebooted itself about 15 minutes ago. I can't find any reason for this at all. I've checked the logs. This also happened yesterday. Can anyone possibly come up with a reason. I'm running Mandrake 9.0. The only apps I've added lately is XScreensaver but I can't see how/why it would cause this. Just out of curiousity, is it rebooting at the same time or some multiple of time or is it random. I'd tend to reckon that something's wrong with XScreemsaver calling OpenGL graphics and therefore causing a reboot of the system - but without actually being able to view logfiles or the xwindows logs, it's literally impossible to determine what the real issue is. -- Sat, 8 Mar 2003 17:05:01 +1100 5:05pm up 6:09, 4 users, load average: 1.79, 0.94, 0.64 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | || | linux user:267497 * RH 7.3/8.1 * Mandrake 9.1 * Microsoft Free | | PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Web/Graphics/Consulting | -- If you have a procedure with 10 parameters, you probably missed some. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
