Re: [newbie] VMWare Workstation 3.2.0 Serial Number

2003-08-16 Thread deedee
From: Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:29:26 -0500
  I believe there's a crack in this theory

   I gave up that theory of operation when I quit winsux
   'Sides, the good cracks were gettin harder to find anyhow ;
   Linux has made an honest man out'a me
   Seriously
I agree with your sentiment about cracks in general. But, it seems that 
everything that is involved with MS (and you have to have a licensed copy 
of ms-win to run as a guest) gets tainted.

After I received Stephen's message about the time-limited s/n, but before 
his hint, I gave VMWare a telephone call to see what they had to say for 
themselves and how long the time period would be for.

The salesman confirmed that I had a legitimate user license and was 
entitled to an s/n to use the software. However, according to him, vmware 
only provides them for the current version. So to get an s/n, I'd have to 
download a version that I didn't need or want and then install that version 
instead of the one I had.

He confirmed that Workstation 4 had only been released in April and that 
Workstation 3.2.0 would also be entitled to at least 18 months of web site 
support (no telephone or anything like that) beginning in April -- this is 
written on their web site.

He then carefully explained to me that the hash in the user license was 
not the s/n, the s/n was 20 numbers in four groups of five, the hash was in 
four groups of eight.

Frankly, I felt that VMWare was doing a bait and switch which is illegal 
in the country and state in which they have their corporate headquarters. 
After the salesman's description of the s/n, I was prepared to play around 
a bit with the hash to see what I could come up with. However, I had no 
intention of buying their software under those terms.

By their own admission I am in legal possession of a licensed copy of their 
software, and they refuse to honor that.

In general, even when dealing with MS, I abide by terms of the agreements. 
That's one of the reasons I've begun migrating all my systems to Linux. I 
can't deal with MS's licenses -- their terms are outrageous and unfair.

In any event, my two cents on the subject :^).

deedee


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Re: [newbie] VMWare Workstation 3.2.0 Serial Number

2003-08-16 Thread RichardA
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:29:26 -0500, Tom Brinkman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday August 15 2003 04:38 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  Look - sometimes serials numbers fall out of the sky especially
  when you're surfing around sites like http://www.astalavista.com
  - don't know where they come from, but you'd be surprised at the
  amount of random numbers that are generated that for some reason
  seem to work properly with applications that require things like
  serial numbers and CD keys...go figure
 
  HINT HINT HINT HINT HINT
 
  ...need any more hints?
 
I believe there's a crack in this theory
 
I gave up that theory of operation when I quit winsux
'Sides, the good cracks were gettin harder to find anyhow ;
 
Linux has made an honest man out'a me
Seriously

If someone wants a serial or a crack I say I can't help them -- if
they're going to use proprietary software, let them pay for it. It only
makes open source look better.

Richard
-- 
Get up and turn I loose


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Re: [newbie] VMWare Workstation 3.2.0 Serial Number

2003-08-15 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:13, deedee wrote:
 I have the ML 9.1 PowerPack, and I would like to install the VMWare 
 Workstation that is included. I cannot find a serial number in the package. 
 Is this a 30-day trial version only? The documentation makes it sound like 
 the full package, but lacking only the support that usually goes with the 
 full package. What do I put in for a serial number?
 
 Thanks,
 deedee

You're supposed to apply for a temporary serial number from the vmware
site - they give you a time-limited SN...

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Re: [newbie] VMWare Workstation 3.2.0 Serial Number

2003-08-15 Thread deedee
From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:13, deedee wrote:
 I have the ML 9.1 PowerPack, and I would like to install the VMWare
 Workstation that is included. I cannot find a serial number in the 
package.
 Is this a 30-day trial version only? The documentation makes it sound like
 the full package, but lacking only the support that usually goes with the
 full package. What do I put in for a serial number?

You're supposed to apply for a temporary serial number from the vmware
site - they give you a time-limited SN...
Thanks for responding. I'm sorry to hear that it was really only a tease 
and not the real deal. At least now I won't waste any time trying to get it 
working on my system.

Thanks,
deedee

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Re: [newbie] VMWare Workstation 3.2.0 Serial Number

2003-08-15 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 03:28, deedee wrote:
 From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:13, deedee wrote:
   I have the ML 9.1 PowerPack, and I would like to install the VMWare
   Workstation that is included. I cannot find a serial number in the 
  package.
   Is this a 30-day trial version only? The documentation makes it sound like
   the full package, but lacking only the support that usually goes with the
   full package. What do I put in for a serial number?
 
 You're supposed to apply for a temporary serial number from the vmware
 site - they give you a time-limited SN...
 
 Thanks for responding. I'm sorry to hear that it was really only a tease 
 and not the real deal. At least now I won't waste any time trying to get it 
 working on my system.
 
 Thanks,
 deedee

Look - sometimes serials numbers fall out of the sky especially when
you're surfing around sites like http://www.astalavista.com - don't know
where they come from, but you'd be surprised at the amount of random
numbers that are generated that for some reason seem to work properly
with applications that require things like serial numbers and CD
keys...go figure

HINT HINT HINT HINT HINT

...need any more hints?

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Man after working on Windows 8 hrs. or more? 

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Re: [newbie] VMWare Workstation 3.2.0 Serial Number

2003-08-15 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Friday August 15 2003 04:38 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 Look - sometimes serials numbers fall out of the sky especially
 when you're surfing around sites like http://www.astalavista.com
 - don't know where they come from, but you'd be surprised at the
 amount of random numbers that are generated that for some reason
 seem to work properly with applications that require things like
 serial numbers and CD keys...go figure

 HINT HINT HINT HINT HINT

 ...need any more hints?

   I believe there's a crack in this theory

   I gave up that theory of operation when I quit winsux
   'Sides, the good cracks were gettin harder to find anyhow ;

   Linux has made an honest man out'a me
   Seriously
-- 
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Re: [newbie] VMWare Workstation 3.2.0 Serial Number

2003-08-15 Thread deedee
From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Aug 2003 07:38:33 +1000
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 03:28, deedee wrote:
 Thanks for responding. I'm sorry to hear that it was really only a tease
 and not the real deal. At least now I won't waste any time trying to 
get it
 working on my system.

 Thanks,
 deedee

Look - sometimes serials numbers fall out of the sky especially when
you're surfing around sites like http://www.astalavista.com - don't know
where they come from, but you'd be surprised at the amount of random
numbers that are generated that for some reason seem to work properly
with applications that require things like serial numbers and CD
keys...go figure
HINT HINT HINT HINT HINT

...need any more hints?
Nope. I see, said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw.

It just so happened that I was in Astalavista's neighborhood just a few 
moments ago and found a likely looking number just lying around.

Thanks for the hint, and the help :^).

deedee


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