Re: [newbie] Win98 - Samba - CUPS - HPDJ540 fails

2003-01-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 25 Jan 2003 4:50 pm, Larry Williams wrote:
 Hi All.

 I'm new to this list, and I've checked the archives and tried all the
 suggestions I've found, but I am still unable to printfrom either of my two
 Win98 boxen.

 My Mandrake 9 machine has most of the packages installed but none are
 upgraded yet.  I'm using
   kernel 2.4.19.16mdk
   samba 2.2.6-1.0pre2.2mdk
   CUPS 1.1.16-0.4mdk

 The network and firewall functions - all machines can use the internet
 connection on the Linux box - but pings to the linux box fail.  I don't
 know if it's related, I doubt it, but just in case...

 I've created smb.conf based on a message in November by Anne Wilson, and my
 cupsd.conf is based on several messages found here and elsewhere.  I can
 provide them if you like.

 The error I get is in cups/error-log.  It states it is unable to convert
 file 0 to printable format even though a raw file is sent and
 application/octet-stream is enabled in both mime.* files.

 Any thoughts?  Should I consider PDQ or find and install some other lp
 daemon? If so, what print system should I define in Samba?

 Thanks in advance,
 Larry

Hi, Larry.  It's usually best to fix one problem at a time :)  So, which is 
most urgent for you?

I don't know much about firewall issues - my router takes care of that for me, 
so someone else will advise you there.  It sounds to me as though that might 
be a good part of the issue.

Also, is the printer physically attached to the linux box or some other?  Can 
you print from the local printer?  Is there no success at all, or is it 
networked printing that's the problem?  What model printer is it. and how did 
you install it?

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Re: [newbie] Win98 - Samba - CUPS - HPDJ540 fails

2003-01-25 Thread Larry Williams
On Saturday 25 January 2003 09:11, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Saturday 25 Jan 2003 4:50 pm, Larry Williams wrote:
  Hi All.
 
  I'm new to this list, and I've checked the archives and tried all the
  suggestions I've found, but I am still unable to printfrom either of my
  two Win98 boxen.
 
  My Mandrake 9 machine has most of the packages installed but none are
  upgraded yet.  I'm using
  kernel 2.4.19.16mdk
  samba 2.2.6-1.0pre2.2mdk
  CUPS 1.1.16-0.4mdk
 
  The error I get is in cups/error-log.  It states it is unable to convert
  file 0 to printable format even though a raw file is sent and
  application/octet-stream is enabled in both mime.* files.
 
  Any thoughts?  Should I consider PDQ or find and install some other lp
  daemon? If so, what print system should I define in Samba?
 
  Thanks in advance,
  Larry

 Hi, Larry.  It's usually best to fix one problem at a time :)  So, which is
 most urgent for you?

 I don't know much about firewall issues - my router takes care of that for
 me, so someone else will advise you there.  It sounds to me as though that
 might be a good part of the issue.

 Also, is the printer physically attached to the linux box or some other? 
 Can you print from the local printer?  Is there no success at all, or is it
 networked printing that's the problem?  What model printer is it. and how
 did you install it?

 Anne

Hi Anne.

The printer is more urgent since all three computers can access the Internet.  
I just included the ping bit in case it was related.

The printer is attached to the Linux box on /dev/lp0, it's an HP Deskjet 540.  
I installed it first during installation, where it was automatically 
detected.  I didn't make any drastic changes to the pre-definied settings 
except to force grayscale.  It does print locally and has always printed test 
pages.

According to the Mandrake Control Center (drakconf), wherein I've removed and 
reinstalled the printer without any problems, the printer is using the 
recommended Ghostscript + hpijs driver, but I've also tried the 
CUPS+GIMP-Print v4.2.2 (en) and Ghostscript + [cdj|djet]500 drivers with the 
same results (local print works, remote from Win doesn't).

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Larry


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Re: [newbie] Win98 - Samba - CUPS - HPDJ540 fails

2003-01-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 25 Jan 2003 4:50 pm, Larry Williams wrote:

I didn't notice the model number in your header.  I'm sorry to say that I 
think you are unlucky here.  HP are pretty good at providing linux drivers, 
but mainly from the 600 series onwards.  Check it out at 

http://h10018.www1.hp.com/wwsolutions/linux/products/printing_imaging/deskjet_printers.html#supported


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Re: [newbie] Win98 - Samba - CUPS - HPDJ540 fails

2003-01-25 Thread Larry Williams
On Saturday 25 January 2003 09:43, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Saturday 25 Jan 2003 4:50 pm, Larry Williams wrote:

 I didn't notice the model number in your header.  I'm sorry to say that I
 think you are unlucky here.  HP are pretty good at providing linux drivers,
 but mainly from the 600 series onwards.  Check it out at

 http://h10018.www1.hp.com/wwsolutions/linux/products/printing_imaging/deskj
et_printers.html#supported


 Anne

Hmm.  I kind of thought that.  Do you know if there is an alternative to CUPS 
then?  I guess I can use PDQ, but I'm not sure how to tell Samba to use it.

Thanks,
Larry


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Re: [newbie] Win98 - Samba - CUPS - HPDJ540 fails

2003-01-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 25 Jan 2003 5:40 pm, Larry Williams wrote:
 According to the Mandrake Control Center (drakconf), wherein I've removed
 and reinstalled the printer without any problems, the printer is using the
 recommended Ghostscript + hpijs driver, but I've also tried the
 CUPS+GIMP-Print v4.2.2 (en) and Ghostscript + [cdj|djet]500 drivers with
 the same results (local print works, remote from Win doesn't).

This is better news.  Mandrake must be providing a suitable driver.  OK - when 
I tried to print over the lan, only a couple of weeks ago, I had much the 
same problem.  I eventually got as far as having a readable file in a spool 
directory, but still couldn't get it to print.  On the advice of Stephen 
Kuhn, I installed the windows driver on the windows machine, saying that I 
wanted to install over the network.  I can't recall the exact sequence, but 
it then allows you to browse to the printer on the host machine, in my case 
it's //anne-linux/printer.  Go throught the whole normal installation, but 
don't print a test page.  Take the re-boot, then call up the printer in the 
usual My Computer/Printers folder, and print a test page from there.

It worked for me

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Re: [newbie] Win98 - Samba - CUPS - HPDJ540 fails

2003-01-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 25 Jan 2003 5:40 pm, Larry Williams wrote:

 According to the Mandrake Control Center (drakconf), wherein I've removed
 and reinstalled the printer without any problems, the printer is using the
 recommended Ghostscript + hpijs driver, but I've also tried the
 CUPS+GIMP-Print v4.2.2 (en) and Ghostscript + [cdj|djet]500 drivers with
 the same results (local print works, remote from Win doesn't).

BTW, I would recommend sticking with the Ghostscript + hpijs driver - I've had 
problems with others, and they generally seem to be reliable.

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Re: [newbie] Win98 - Samba - CUPS - HPDJ540 fails

2003-01-25 Thread Larry Williams
On Saturday 25 January 2003 09:47, Anne Wilson wrote:
 This is better news.  Mandrake must be providing a suitable driver.  OK -
 when I tried to print over the lan, only a couple of weeks ago, I had much
 the same problem.  I eventually got as far as having a readable file in a
 spool directory, but still couldn't get it to print.  On the advice of
 Stephen Kuhn, I installed the windows driver on the windows machine, saying
 that I wanted to install over the network.  I can't recall the exact
 sequence, but it then allows you to browse to the printer on the host
 machine, in my case it's //anne-linux/printer.  Go throught the whole
 normal installation, but don't print a test page.  Take the re-boot, then
 call up the printer in the usual My Computer/Printers folder, and print a
 test page from there.

 It worked for me

 Anne

Hi Anne.

Yes, I've done this as well.  Before I installed Mandrake 9 I was using Red 
Hat 7.3.  It came with lprng and CUPS, and I couldn't get CUPS to work then 
either.  But lprng worked just fine.  I thought I could go get lprng and put 
it on Mandrake, but I ran into roadblocks: The source won't compile because 
(I believe) I'm not using an ANSI C compiler (just gcc that came with 
Mandrake) and the RPM is too specific to Red Hat and I couldn't get the 
dependencies to load (one was older than an existing package and the two 
necessary libraries aren't part of the new package).

So unless I can upgrade my printer (which may happen in the next month along 
with a system upgrade), I'm open to alternative print spoolers, or PDQ if I 
can properly configure Samba.

Thanks,
Larry


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Re: [newbie] Win98 - Samba - CUPS - HPDJ540 fails

2003-01-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 25 Jan 2003 5:57 pm, Larry Williams wrote:
 On Saturday 25 January 2003 09:47, Anne Wilson wrote:
  This is better news.  Mandrake must be providing a suitable driver.  OK -
  when I tried to print over the lan, only a couple of weeks ago, I had
  much the same problem.  I eventually got as far as having a readable file
  in a spool directory, but still couldn't get it to print.  On the advice
  of Stephen Kuhn, I installed the windows driver on the windows machine,
  saying that I wanted to install over the network.  I can't recall the
  exact sequence, but it then allows you to browse to the printer on the
  host machine, in my case it's //anne-linux/printer.  Go throught the
  whole normal installation, but don't print a test page.  Take the
  re-boot, then call up the printer in the usual My Computer/Printers
  folder, and print a test page from there.
 
  It worked for me
 
  Anne

 Hi Anne.

 Yes, I've done this as well.  Before I installed Mandrake 9 I was using Red
 Hat 7.3.  It came with lprng and CUPS, and I couldn't get CUPS to work then
 either.  But lprng worked just fine.  I thought I could go get lprng and
 put it on Mandrake, but I ran into roadblocks: The source won't compile
 because (I believe) I'm not using an ANSI C compiler (just gcc that came
 with Mandrake) and the RPM is too specific to Red Hat and I couldn't get
 the dependencies to load (one was older than an existing package and the
 two necessary libraries aren't part of the new package).

 So unless I can upgrade my printer (which may happen in the next month
 along with a system upgrade), I'm open to alternative print spoolers, or
 PDQ if I can properly configure Samba.

Don't give up yet.  Some of our most experienced posters will be around, 
probably this evening.  There could be much better advice.

Anne
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Re: [newbie] Win98 - Samba - CUPS - HPDJ540 fails

2003-01-25 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 04:48, Larry Williams wrote:
 On Saturday 25 January 2003 09:43, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Saturday 25 Jan 2003 4:50 pm, Larry Williams wrote:
 
  I didn't notice the model number in your header.  I'm sorry to say that I
  think you are unlucky here.  HP are pretty good at providing linux drivers,
  but mainly from the 600 series onwards.  Check it out at
 
  http://h10018.www1.hp.com/wwsolutions/linux/products/printing_imaging/deskj
 et_printers.html#supported
 
 
  Anne
 
 Hmm.  I kind of thought that.  Do you know if there is an alternative to CUPS 
 then?  I guess I can use PDQ, but I'm not sure how to tell Samba to use it.
 
 Thanks,
 Larry
 

Sometimes you can use WEBMIN to bypass the BS with either LPD or CUPS
printing...and it does have it's own proprietary drivers - and works
like a charm - WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS...

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