Re: [newbie] aumix not working
Well! This is what I did -- not pretty! I reinstalled 9.1. I let the installer select the defaut driver cs46xx. After installation, I selectively installed alsa. Rebooted, cs46xx failed to load. Went to harddrake and selected driver cs4232. Rebooted, cs4243 loaded. Now there is a speaker on the bottom right panel, wasn't there before. Opened up kscd, put in an audio cd, and it worked! Who knows? Some times I feel that linux is a house of cards. Thanks for everybody's help! mike On Wednesday 30 July 2003 05:59 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > I tend to agree, but since we often have to work with what we've > got > > Meanwhile, I would run HardDrake from the mcc. Select the card, and > see what it says it is. I can't remember the names on the two > buttons on the right, but try them. One of them will show suggested > alternative drivers. It sounds as though you have been trying to > suss it out yourself, instead of letting HardDrake doit. Try it and > see Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aumix not working
I tend to agree, but since we often have to work with what we've got Meanwhile, I would run HardDrake from the mcc. Select the card, and see what it says it is. I can't remember the names on the two buttons on the right, but try them. One of them will show suggested alternative drivers. It sounds as though you have been trying to suss it out yourself, instead of letting HardDrake doit. Try it and see Anne On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 8:13 am, James Henry Maiewski wrote: > Hello, > > There have been numerous warnings concerning SBLive cards that say > that have the emu10k1 chip but, in point of fact, do not. The mere > fact that this is possible, makes the SBLive an unatractive option > for Linux. > > Jim > > On Tuesday 29 July 2003 10:05 pm, Mike Adolf wrote: > > On Tuesday 29 July 2003 02:05 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 5:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote .. > > > > > > > > HardDrake recommends somelike (I not at my machine) cs49xx > > > > but if you use that one it errors out on boot. I have it set > > > > at cs4232 and it worked at one time. But as it says above, > > > > aumix kept setting mute all, until it quit running. > > > > > > Mike - does HardDrake recognise it as a SBLive? The reason I > > > ask is that many cards that were sold as such are actually > > > other models. For instance, I have a box here with a card that > > > I originally bought as a SBLive, but Mandrake says it is an > > > Ensoniq, and with the es driver it works fine. > > > > > > Anne > > > > Anne, > > I'm not exactly sure what you are asking, but I think the answer > > is no. I looked at the list of available 'drivers' and there was > > an 'sb' but no SBLive. I am going to try some of the trouble > > shooting suggestions I found in HardDrake. I'll let you know > > when I have more information. Thanks > > > > Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aumix not working
Hello, There have been numerous warnings concerning SBLive cards that say that have the emu10k1 chip but, in point of fact, do not. The mere fact that this is possible, makes the SBLive an unatractive option for Linux. Jim On Tuesday 29 July 2003 10:05 pm, Mike Adolf wrote: > On Tuesday 29 July 2003 02:05 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 5:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote .. > > > > > > HardDrake recommends somelike (I not at my machine) cs49xx but if > > > you use that one it errors out on boot. I have it set at cs4232 > > > and it worked at one time. But as it says above, aumix kept setting > > > mute all, until it quit running. > > > > Mike - does HardDrake recognise it as a SBLive? The reason I ask is > > that many cards that were sold as such are actually other models. > > For instance, I have a box here with a card that I originally bought > > as a SBLive, but Mandrake says it is an Ensoniq, and with the es > > driver it works fine. > > > > Anne > > Anne, > I'm not exactly sure what you are asking, but I think the answer is no. I > looked at the list of available 'drivers' and there was an 'sb' but no > SBLive. I am going to try some of the trouble shooting suggestions I found > in HardDrake. I'll let you know when I have more information. Thanks > > Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aumix not working
Yes, as long as it is a *real* SBLive. As I said, one that I bought as such was actually an Ensoniq, so it's necessary to see exactly what HardDrake believes it to be. If it does see SBLive, then emu10k1 is the driver Anne On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 5:39 am, Erylon Hines wrote: > The SBLive is actually "EMU10K1" > with the ALSA driver > > The mixer is a CS (mine is CS4297A) > > I'm running a vanilla 9.1, no kernel updates. > > On Tuesday 29 July 2003 07:05 pm, Mike Adolf wrote: > > On Tuesday 29 July 2003 02:05 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 5:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote .. > > > > > > > > HardDrake recommends somelike (I not at my machine) cs49xx > > > > but if you use that one it errors out on boot. I have it set > > > > at cs4232 and it worked at one time. But as it says above, > > > > aumix kept setting mute all, until it quit running. > > > > > > Mike - does HardDrake recognise it as a SBLive? The reason I > > > ask is that many cards that were sold as such are actually > > > other models. For instance, I have a box here with a card that > > > I originally bought as a SBLive, but Mandrake says it is an > > > Ensoniq, and with the es driver it works fine. > > > > > > Anne > > > > Anne, > > I'm not exactly sure what you are asking, but I think the answer > > is no. I looked at the list of available 'drivers' and there was > > an 'sb' but no SBLive. I am going to try some of the trouble > > shooting suggestions I found in HardDrake. I'll let you know > > when I have more information. Thanks > > > > Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aumix not working
The SBLive is actually "EMU10K1" with the ALSA driver The mixer is a CS (mine is CS4297A) I'm running a vanilla 9.1, no kernel updates. On Tuesday 29 July 2003 07:05 pm, Mike Adolf wrote: > On Tuesday 29 July 2003 02:05 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 5:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote .. > > > > > > HardDrake recommends somelike (I not at my machine) cs49xx but if > > > you use that one it errors out on boot. I have it set at cs4232 > > > and it worked at one time. But as it says above, aumix kept setting > > > mute all, until it quit running. > > > > Mike - does HardDrake recognise it as a SBLive? The reason I ask is > > that many cards that were sold as such are actually other models. > > For instance, I have a box here with a card that I originally bought > > as a SBLive, but Mandrake says it is an Ensoniq, and with the es > > driver it works fine. > > > > Anne > > Anne, > I'm not exactly sure what you are asking, but I think the answer is no. I > looked at the list of available 'drivers' and there was an 'sb' but no > SBLive. I am going to try some of the trouble shooting suggestions I found > in HardDrake. I'll let you know when I have more information. Thanks > > Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aumix not working
On Tuesday 29 July 2003 02:05 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 5:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote .. > > > > HardDrake recommends somelike (I not at my machine) cs49xx but if > > you use that one it errors out on boot. I have it set at cs4232 > > and it worked at one time. But as it says above, aumix kept setting > > mute all, until it quit running. > > Mike - does HardDrake recognise it as a SBLive? The reason I ask is > that many cards that were sold as such are actually other models. > For instance, I have a box here with a card that I originally bought > as a SBLive, but Mandrake says it is an Ensoniq, and with the es > driver it works fine. > > Anne Anne, I'm not exactly sure what you are asking, but I think the answer is no. I looked at the list of available 'drivers' and there was an 'sb' but no SBLive. I am going to try some of the trouble shooting suggestions I found in HardDrake. I'll let you know when I have more information. Thanks Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aumix not working
On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 5:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote .. > HardDrake recommends somelike (I not at my machine) cs49xx but if > you use that one it errors out on boot. I have it set at cs4232 > and it worked at one time. But as it says above, aumix kept setting > mute all, until it quit running. > Mike - does HardDrake recognise it as a SBLive? The reason I ask is that many cards that were sold as such are actually other models. For instance, I have a box here with a card that I originally bought as a SBLive, but Mandrake says it is an Ensoniq, and with the es driver it works fine. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aumix not working
Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote .. > On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 9:22 am, Frans Ketelaars wrote: > > On Tuesday 29 July 2003 03:45, Mike Adolf wrote: > > > On Monday 28 July 2003 08:44 am, Frans Ketelaars wrote: > > > > On Monday 28 July 2003 02:19, Mike Adolf wrote: > > > > > On Sunday 27 July 2003 08:07 pm, Eric Huff wrote: > > > > > > alsamixergui might save you. If not, i'm not sure what to > > > > > > do about aumix not running. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe delete ~/.aumixrc ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, once you get that sorted out, here is what i did to > > > > > > make my sound work for my first install (the second time i > > > > > > installed it worked from the start...): > > > > > > > > > > > > 0. Run and save kmix > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Run the aumix gui (i just type aumix at the cl) > > > > > > 2. Under Mute, "Mute All" is checked (despite the sliders > > > > > > being non-zero). > > > > > > Click "Mute All" to uncheck it (this will actually > > > > > > mute all: the sliders all go to zero) > > > > > > 3. Now go back and reselect mute all (the sliders then all > > > > > > go back to non-zero values) > > > > > > 4. Save settings > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sound should now work, try alsamixergui if not > > > > > > > > > > > > IF you're running ALSA drivers: > > > > > > > > > > > > after installing the alsa-utils, i ran alsactl store (as > > > > > > root) and rebooted. Sound worked on bootup w/o fiddling... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:22:25 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike Adolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > After I installed 9.1 a while ago, I used aumix to > > > > > > > uncheck Mute All, and the sound worked. Next time I > > > > > > > booted it was check on again. I unchecked it, saved, > > > > > > > quit aumix, started it again and it was ckecked again. > > > > > > > Went round and round with aumix with no luck. NOW it > > > > > > > won't even come up. Run from KDE as user the hour glass > > > > > > > just spins about 20 times and then goes away. Run from > > > > > > > konsole as me or as root and the prompt just reappears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can I get rid of this POC and use something else to > > > > > > > configure sound? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mike > > > > > > > > > > I uninstalled aumix and installed alsamixergui and > > > > > alsamixser. When either is run I get the following: > > > > > > > > > > "function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or > > > > > directory" > > > > > > > > > > Something is missing, but I don't yet speak linux! > > > > > > > > > > mike > > > > > > > > What is the output of '/sbin/lsmod | grep snd-'? > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > > > -Frans > > > > > > /sbin/lsmod | grep snd- > > > produces nothing but another prompt!! > > > > > > Mike > > > > Ok, there is no ALSA driver loaded. What's the output of > > 'less /etc/modules.conf | grep sound'? You should get > > 'alias sound-slot-0 '. Then you can check with > > '/sbin/lsmod | grep ' if the driver is loaded. > > > > HTH, > > > > -Frans > > The Audigy card doesn't use alsa, and the SBLive5.1 card had a lot of > problems with also under 9.0. I don't know what the situation is > with it now, but does HardDrake say which driver it recommends? > > Anne HardDrake recommends somelike (I not at my machine) cs49xx but if you use that one it errors out on boot. I have it set at cs4232 and it worked at one time. But as it says above, aumix kept setting mute all, until it quit running. mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aumix not working
On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 9:22 am, Frans Ketelaars wrote: > On Tuesday 29 July 2003 03:45, Mike Adolf wrote: > > On Monday 28 July 2003 08:44 am, Frans Ketelaars wrote: > > > On Monday 28 July 2003 02:19, Mike Adolf wrote: > > > > On Sunday 27 July 2003 08:07 pm, Eric Huff wrote: > > > > > alsamixergui might save you. If not, i'm not sure what to > > > > > do about aumix not running. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe delete ~/.aumixrc ? > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, once you get that sorted out, here is what i did to > > > > > make my sound work for my first install (the second time i > > > > > installed it worked from the start...): > > > > > > > > > > 0. Run and save kmix > > > > > > > > > > 1. Run the aumix gui (i just type aumix at the cl) > > > > > 2. Under Mute, "Mute All" is checked (despite the sliders > > > > > being non-zero). > > > > > Click "Mute All" to uncheck it (this will actually > > > > > mute all: the sliders all go to zero) > > > > > 3. Now go back and reselect mute all (the sliders then all > > > > > go back to non-zero values) > > > > > 4. Save settings > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sound should now work, try alsamixergui if not > > > > > > > > > > IF you're running ALSA drivers: > > > > > > > > > > after installing the alsa-utils, i ran alsactl store (as > > > > > root) and rebooted. Sound worked on bootup w/o fiddling... > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:22:25 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > Mike Adolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > After I installed 9.1 a while ago, I used aumix to > > > > > > uncheck Mute All, and the sound worked. Next time I > > > > > > booted it was check on again. I unchecked it, saved, > > > > > > quit aumix, started it again and it was ckecked again. > > > > > > Went round and round with aumix with no luck. NOW it > > > > > > won't even come up. Run from KDE as user the hour glass > > > > > > just spins about 20 times and then goes away. Run from > > > > > > konsole as me or as root and the prompt just reappears. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can I get rid of this POC and use something else to > > > > > > configure sound? > > > > > > > > > > > > mike > > > > > > > > I uninstalled aumix and installed alsamixergui and > > > > alsamixser. When either is run I get the following: > > > > > > > > "function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or > > > > directory" > > > > > > > > Something is missing, but I don't yet speak linux! > > > > > > > > mike > > > > > > What is the output of '/sbin/lsmod | grep snd-'? > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > -Frans > > > > /sbin/lsmod | grep snd- > > produces nothing but another prompt!! > > > > Mike > > Ok, there is no ALSA driver loaded. What's the output of > 'less /etc/modules.conf | grep sound'? You should get > 'alias sound-slot-0 '. Then you can check with > '/sbin/lsmod | grep ' if the driver is loaded. > > HTH, > > -Frans The Audigy card doesn't use alsa, and the SBLive5.1 card had a lot of problems with also under 9.0. I don't know what the situation is with it now, but does HardDrake say which driver it recommends? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aumix not working
On Tuesday 29 July 2003 03:45, Mike Adolf wrote: > On Monday 28 July 2003 08:44 am, Frans Ketelaars wrote: > > On Monday 28 July 2003 02:19, Mike Adolf wrote: > > > On Sunday 27 July 2003 08:07 pm, Eric Huff wrote: > > > > alsamixergui might save you. If not, i'm not sure what to do > > > > about aumix not running. > > > > > > > > Maybe delete ~/.aumixrc ? > > > > > > > > Anyway, once you get that sorted out, here is what i did to > > > > make my sound work for my first install (the second time i > > > > installed it worked from the start...): > > > > > > > > 0. Run and save kmix > > > > > > > > 1. Run the aumix gui (i just type aumix at the cl) > > > > 2. Under Mute, "Mute All" is checked (despite the sliders being > > > > non-zero). > > > > Click "Mute All" to uncheck it (this will actually mute > > > > all: the sliders all go to zero) > > > > 3. Now go back and reselect mute all (the sliders then all go > > > > back to non-zero values) > > > > 4. Save settings > > > > > > > > 5. Sound should now work, try alsamixergui if not > > > > > > > > IF you're running ALSA drivers: > > > > > > > > after installing the alsa-utils, i ran alsactl store (as root) > > > > and rebooted. Sound worked on bootup w/o fiddling... > > > > > > > > On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:22:25 -0400 > > > > > > > > Mike Adolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > After I installed 9.1 a while ago, I used aumix to uncheck > > > > > Mute All, and the sound worked. Next time I booted it was > > > > > check on again. I unchecked it, saved, quit aumix, started > > > > > it again and it was ckecked again. Went round and round with > > > > > aumix with no luck. NOW it won't even come up. Run from KDE > > > > > as user the hour glass just spins about 20 times and then > > > > > goes away. Run from konsole as me or as root and the prompt > > > > > just reappears. > > > > > > > > > > Can I get rid of this POC and use something else to configure > > > > > sound? > > > > > > > > > > mike > > > > > > I uninstalled aumix and installed alsamixergui and alsamixser. > > > When either is run I get the following: > > > > > > "function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or > > > directory" > > > > > > Something is missing, but I don't yet speak linux! > > > > > > mike > > > > What is the output of '/sbin/lsmod | grep snd-'? > > > > HTH, > > > > -Frans > > /sbin/lsmod | grep snd- > produces nothing but another prompt!! > > Mike Ok, there is no ALSA driver loaded. What's the output of 'less /etc/modules.conf | grep sound'? You should get 'alias sound-slot-0 '. Then you can check with '/sbin/lsmod | grep ' if the driver is loaded. HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aumix not working
On Monday 28 July 2003 08:44 am, Frans Ketelaars wrote: > On Monday 28 July 2003 02:19, Mike Adolf wrote: > > On Sunday 27 July 2003 08:07 pm, Eric Huff wrote: > > > alsamixergui might save you. If not, i'm not sure what to do about > > > aumix not running. > > > > > > Maybe delete ~/.aumixrc ? > > > > > > Anyway, once you get that sorted out, here is what i did to make my > > > sound work for my first install (the second time i installed it > > > worked from the start...): > > > > > > 0. Run and save kmix > > > > > > 1. Run the aumix gui (i just type aumix at the cl) > > > 2. Under Mute, "Mute All" is checked (despite the sliders being > > > non-zero). > > > Click "Mute All" to uncheck it (this will actually mute all: > > > the sliders all go to zero) > > > 3. Now go back and reselect mute all (the sliders then all go back > > > to non-zero values) > > > 4. Save settings > > > > > > 5. Sound should now work, try alsamixergui if not > > > > > > IF you're running ALSA drivers: > > > > > > after installing the alsa-utils, i ran alsactl store (as root) > > > and rebooted. Sound worked on bootup w/o fiddling... > > > > > > On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:22:25 -0400 > > > > > > Mike Adolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > After I installed 9.1 a while ago, I used aumix to uncheck Mute > > > > All, and the sound worked. Next time I booted it was check on > > > > again. I unchecked it, saved, quit aumix, started it again and > > > > it was ckecked again. Went round and round with aumix with no > > > > luck. NOW it won't even come up. Run from KDE as user the hour > > > > glass just spins about 20 times and then goes away. Run from > > > > konsole as me or as root and the prompt just reappears. > > > > > > > > Can I get rid of this POC and use something else to configure > > > > sound? > > > > > > > > mike > > > > I uninstalled aumix and installed alsamixergui and alsamixser. When > > either is run I get the following: > > > > "function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory" > > > > Something is missing, but I don't yet speak linux! > > > > mike > > What is the output of '/sbin/lsmod | grep snd-'? > > HTH, > > -Frans /sbin/lsmod | grep snd- produces nothing but another prompt!! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aumix not working
On Monday 28 July 2003 02:19, Mike Adolf wrote: > On Sunday 27 July 2003 08:07 pm, Eric Huff wrote: > > alsamixergui might save you. If not, i'm not sure what to do about > > aumix not running. > > > > Maybe delete ~/.aumixrc ? > > > > Anyway, once you get that sorted out, here is what i did to make my > > sound work for my first install (the second time i installed it > > worked from the start...): > > > > 0. Run and save kmix > > > > 1. Run the aumix gui (i just type aumix at the cl) > > 2. Under Mute, "Mute All" is checked (despite the sliders being > > non-zero). > > Click "Mute All" to uncheck it (this will actually mute all: > > the sliders all go to zero) > > 3. Now go back and reselect mute all (the sliders then all go back > > to non-zero values) > > 4. Save settings > > > > 5. Sound should now work, try alsamixergui if not > > > > IF you're running ALSA drivers: > > > > after installing the alsa-utils, i ran alsactl store (as root) > > and rebooted. Sound worked on bootup w/o fiddling... > > > > On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:22:25 -0400 > > > > Mike Adolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > After I installed 9.1 a while ago, I used aumix to uncheck Mute > > > All, and the sound worked. Next time I booted it was check on > > > again. I unchecked it, saved, quit aumix, started it again and > > > it was ckecked again. Went round and round with aumix with no > > > luck. NOW it won't even come up. Run from KDE as user the hour > > > glass just spins about 20 times and then goes away. Run from > > > konsole as me or as root and the prompt just reappears. > > > > > > Can I get rid of this POC and use something else to configure > > > sound? > > > > > > mike > > I uninstalled aumix and installed alsamixergui and alsamixser. When > either is run I get the following: > > "function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory" > > Something is missing, but I don't yet speak linux! > > mike What is the output of '/sbin/lsmod | grep snd-'? HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aumix not working
alsamixergui might save you. If not, i'm not sure what to do about aumix not running. Maybe delete ~/.aumixrc ? Anyway, once you get that sorted out, here is what i did to make my sound work for my first install (the second time i installed it worked from the start...): 0. Run and save kmix 1. Run the aumix gui (i just type aumix at the cl) 2. Under Mute, "Mute All" is checked (despite the sliders being non-zero). Click "Mute All" to uncheck it (this will actually mute all: the sliders all go to zero) 3. Now go back and reselect mute all (the sliders then all go back to non-zero values) 4. Save settings 5. Sound should now work, try alsamixergui if not IF you're running ALSA drivers: after installing the alsa-utils, i ran alsactl store (as root) and rebooted. Sound worked on bootup w/o fiddling... On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:22:25 -0400 Mike Adolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After I installed 9.1 a while ago, I used aumix to uncheck Mute All, > and the sound worked. Next time I booted it was check on again. I > unchecked it, saved, quit aumix, started it again and it was ckecked > again. Went round and round with aumix with no luck. NOW it won't even > come up. Run from KDE as user the hour glass just spins about 20 times > and then goes away. Run from konsole as me or as root and the prompt > just reappears. > > Can I get rid of this POC and use something else to configure sound? > > mike > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
