Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

2004-04-05 Thread Margot
Hoyt Bailey wrote:
On Sunday 04 April 2004 14:14, eric jackson wrote:

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From: Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared



I had already tried typing mcc before I posted my problem.Bash gives
me an error that says it doesn't know anything about a command named
MCC.
Someone suggested the update-menus command so I tried that. That
seems to be doing something because the output the command gives
seems to indicate it's working but there is no visible change in my
menus.
Eric Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Then I don't have any more ideas.  If it was happening to me at this 
time I would reinstall.  Before you do however you might wait a while 
until someone tells us why that is the stupidest thing you could do.
It seems that you have some important packages missing from your 
original installation, including the drakes - the packages that 
make up MCC (the Mandrake Control Centre). Rather than doing a 
complete reinstall, you might be better off just installing the 
missing bits. You should be able to do this through Konqueror from 
your CDs - if you don't know how, ask, and I'll send the instructions!

Once you've got all the vital packages, I can talk you through 
sorting the menu problem - I had the same problem myself with menus 
on 9.2 and I've still got all the details on file.

Margot


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Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

2004-04-05 Thread eric jackson

- Original Message - 
From: Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared


 Hoyt Bailey wrote:
  On Sunday 04 April 2004 14:14, eric jackson wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 1:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared
 
 
 
 
 I had already tried typing mcc before I posted my problem.Bash gives
 me an error that says it doesn't know anything about a command named
 MCC.
 
 Someone suggested the update-menus command so I tried that. That
 seems to be doing something because the output the command gives
 seems to indicate it's working but there is no visible change in my
 menus.
 
 Eric Jackson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  Then I don't have any more ideas.  If it was happening to me at this
  time I would reinstall.  Before you do however you might wait a while
  until someone tells us why that is the stupidest thing you could do.

 It seems that you have some important packages missing from your
 original installation, including the drakes - the packages that
 make up MCC (the Mandrake Control Centre). Rather than doing a
 complete reinstall, you might be better off just installing the
 missing bits. You should be able to do this through Konqueror from
 your CDs - if you don't know how, ask, and I'll send the instructions!

 Once you've got all the vital packages, I can talk you through
 sorting the menu problem - I had the same problem myself with menus
 on 9.2 and I've still got all the details on file.

 Margot

First of all, thank you for your help.

I realized that either the drakes had disppeared off my system or else
they were no longer in my Path.

I would be happy to reinstall the missing bits if you could please tell me
how.

Eric Jackson
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Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

2004-04-05 Thread Margot
eric jackson wrote:
First of all, thank you for your help.

I realized that either the drakes had disppeared off my system or else
they were no longer in my Path.
I would be happy to reinstall the missing bits if you could please tell me
how.
Eric Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK Eric, this *should* work as long as you have the software 
installer (gurpmi) installed - if you find you have no software 
installer you'd probably be better off doing a complete reinstall as 
heaven knows what might also be missing!

Open a root terminal and type konqueror (without the quotes). This 
should open the Konqueror file manager with root privileges.

Put the first Mandrake CD in whatever CD device you have.

In Konqueror, navigate to the CD device (probably /mnt/cdrom) and 
then navigate through the folders until you find one full of rpm's.

Go through the list of rpm's until you find ones with drake or 
drak in the name.

Right click on one of these rpm's, find the software installer on 
the menu (it might be on a submenu - sorry, I don't remember!) and 
follow the instructions to install (select install, not save). 
If it says it wants to install other rpm's at the same time 
(dependencies), agree.

Once you have installed everything useful-looking from the first CD, 
repeat with all the other Mandrake CDs.

Go back to your root terminal and type mcc (again, no quotes) and 
the Mandrake Control Centre should come up.

Get back to me once you get this far!

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Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

2004-04-05 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Monday 05 April 2004 17:49, eric jackson wrote:

snip
 I realized that either the drakes had disppeared off my system
 or else they were no longer in my Path.

 I would be happy to reinstall the missing bits if you could
 please tell me how.
/snip

Eric, if everything else fails, you can go here :

http://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/

and download the missing packages, i.e. the drakes.

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Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

2004-04-04 Thread eric jackson

- Original Message - 
From: Marc Resnick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared


 eric jackson wrote:

  Hi,
 
  Yesterday I used urpmi to update my 9.2 system. When I booted up I was
  unable to find a menu entry for Mandrake Control Center or for any of
  the selections that are usually listed under Packaging.
 
  Anybody know what I need to restore my menu back to the way it was
  before I updated?
 
  Eric Jackson
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

 It's a well-known problem with 9.2 systems. If you just updated, all you
 should need to do is open a terminal, 'su' to root, and enter the
 command 'update-menus -v'. Your menus should be back when that process
 is finished.

 --Marc


Hi Marc,

I tried issuing the command you suggested but it didn't change anything, as
far as I can tell.

Any other suggestions?

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Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

2004-04-04 Thread eric jackson

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From: Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared


 On Saturday 03 April 2004 14:04, eric jackson wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Yesterday I used urpmi to update my 9.2 system. When I booted up I
  was unable to find a menu entry for Mandrake Control Center or for
  any of the selections that are usually listed under Packaging.
 
  Anybody know what I need to restore my menu back to the way it was
  before I updated?
 
  Eric Jackson
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 drakemenu avilabele in mcc or welcome icon on desktop under systems.
 -- 
 Regards;
 Hoyt

Hi Hoyt,

As I mentioned I don't have mcc listed as a menu option. I don't know how to
access drakemenu or MCC without using the menu.

When I click on the Welcome icon I get a link called This Computer  that
says it will configure the computer. If I click on this computer I get this
error message. Unable to run the command specified. The file or directory
file:/usr/share/applnk-mdk/Configuration/Configure your computer.desktop
does not exits.

Any thoughts on what's wrong and what I need to do to fix it?

Thanks for any help you can give.

Eric Jackson
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Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

2004-04-04 Thread John Richard Smith
eric jackson wrote:
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 From: Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 5:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared



On Saturday 03 April 2004 14:04, eric jackson wrote:

Hi,

Yesterday I used urpmi to update my 9.2 system. When I booted up I
was unable to find a menu entry for Mandrake Control Center or for
any of the selections that are usually listed under Packaging.

Anybody know what I need to restore my menu back to the way it was
before I updated?

Eric Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




drakemenu avilabele in mcc or welcome icon on desktop under systems.
--
Regards;
Hoyt


 Hi Hoyt,

 As I mentioned I don't have mcc listed as a menu option. I don't 
know how to
 access drakemenu or MCC without using the menu.

 When I click on the Welcome icon I get a link called This 
Computer  that
 says it will configure the computer. If I click on this computer 
I get this
 error message. Unable to run the command specified. The file or 
directory
 file:/usr/share/applnk-mdk/Configuration/Configure your 
computer.desktop
 does not exits.

 Any thoughts on what's wrong and what I need to do to fix it?

 Thanks for any help you can give.

 Eric Jackson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

2004-04-04 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Sunday 04 April 2004 15:18, eric jackson wrote:

snip
  
   Anybody know what I need to restore my menu back to the way
   it was before I updated?
/snip

1. as root, run update-menus -v (watch the screen, the command 
doesn't exit by itself. When no more activity is seen, just press 
enter).
2. as root, run menudrake, edit and save.
3. if fluxbox is installed, uninstall it (there is a bug).

HTH

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Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

2004-04-04 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Sunday 04 April 2004 08:18, eric jackson wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 5:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

  On Saturday 03 April 2004 14:04, eric jackson wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Yesterday I used urpmi to update my 9.2 system. When I booted up
   I was unable to find a menu entry for Mandrake Control Center or
   for any of the selections that are usually listed under
   Packaging.
  
   Anybody know what I need to restore my menu back to the way it
   was before I updated?
  
   Eric Jackson
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  drakemenu avilabele in mcc or welcome icon on desktop under
  systems. --
  Regards;
  Hoyt

 Hi Hoyt,

 As I mentioned I don't have mcc listed as a menu option. I don't know
 how to access drakemenu or MCC without using the menu.

 When I click on the Welcome icon I get a link called This Computer 
 that says it will configure the computer. If I click on this computer
 I get this error message. Unable to run the command specified. The
 file or directory file:/usr/share/applnk-mdk/Configuration/Configure
 your computer.desktop does not exits.

 Any thoughts on what's wrong and what I need to do to fix it?

 Thanks for any help you can give.

 Eric Jackson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Open a terminal and type mcc.  If you don't have a terminal try 
ctl-alt-F1 and try it from CLI. You might also try update-menus -v from 
CLI.  My welcome icon has done that to me as well.   But it came back.
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Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

2004-04-04 Thread eric jackson

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From: Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared


 On Sunday 04 April 2004 08:18, eric jackson wrote:
  - Original Message -
  From: Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 5:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared
 
   On Saturday 03 April 2004 14:04, eric jackson wrote:
Hi,
   
Yesterday I used urpmi to update my 9.2 system. When I booted up
I was unable to find a menu entry for Mandrake Control Center or
for any of the selections that are usually listed under
Packaging.
   
Anybody know what I need to restore my menu back to the way it
was before I updated?
   
Eric Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   drakemenu avilabele in mcc or welcome icon on desktop under
   systems. --
   Regards;
   Hoyt
 
  Hi Hoyt,
 
  As I mentioned I don't have mcc listed as a menu option. I don't know
  how to access drakemenu or MCC without using the menu.
 
  When I click on the Welcome icon I get a link called This Computer
  that says it will configure the computer. If I click on this computer
  I get this error message. Unable to run the command specified. The
  file or directory file:/usr/share/applnk-mdk/Configuration/Configure
  your computer.desktop does not exits.
 
  Any thoughts on what's wrong and what I need to do to fix it?
 
  Thanks for any help you can give.
 
  Eric Jackson
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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   Ignore the future and you have already failed!
 
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 Open a terminal and type mcc.  If you don't have a terminal try
 ctl-alt-F1 and try it from CLI. You might also try update-menus -v from
 CLI.  My welcome icon has done that to me as well.   But it came back.
 -- 
 Regards;
 Hoyt

I had already tried typing mcc before I posted my problem.Bash gives me an
error that says it doesn't know anything about a command named MCC.

Someone suggested the update-menus command so I tried that. That seems to be
doing something because the output the command gives seems to indicate it's
working but there is no visible change in my menus.

Eric Jackson
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Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

2004-04-04 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Sunday 04 April 2004 14:14, eric jackson wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 1:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared



 I had already tried typing mcc before I posted my problem.Bash gives
 me an error that says it doesn't know anything about a command named
 MCC.

 Someone suggested the update-menus command so I tried that. That
 seems to be doing something because the output the command gives
 seems to indicate it's working but there is no visible change in my
 menus.

 Eric Jackson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Then I don't have any more ideas.  If it was happening to me at this 
time I would reinstall.  Before you do however you might wait a while 
until someone tells us why that is the stupidest thing you could do.
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Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

2004-04-04 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 04 April 2004 03:14 pm, eric jackson wrote:
 I had already tried typing mcc before I posted my problem.Bash gives me an
 error that says it doesn't know anything about a command named MCC.

how about drakconf.  Are you root when you type it?
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Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

2004-04-04 Thread obu
Oli üks kena pühapäev, 4. aprill 2004 22:18,kui eric jackson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjutas sellise kirja:
- Original Message -
From: Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

 On Sunday 04 April 2004 15:18, eric jackson wrote:

 snip

Anybody know what I need to restore my menu back to the way
it was before I updated?

 /snip

 1. as root, run update-menus -v (watch the screen, the command
 doesn't exit by itself. When no more activity is seen, just press
 enter).

I've done that several times but I haven't noticed any change in my menus.

 2. as root, run menudrake, edit and save.

When I enter menudrake, bash tells me it can't find the command

 3. if fluxbox is installed, uninstall it (there is a bug).

I will check on that in a few minutes.

Thanks for the advice.

Eric

 HTH

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Some time ago I had same menuproblem with 9.2.
From old e-mail I found this:
Margot wrote:
 ronald wrote:
 
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:49:53 +
 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 what I need to know is how to transfer this list of applications to 
 the 'user' version of menudrake, so I can add them to the user menu.



 hey Margot,

 if you start menudrake as user there is an option to Use system 
 administrator settings
 in the actions  change-style tab


 HTH. ronald

 
 Thanks for the thought, but the 'system administrator' style has even 
 less on it than the 'all applications' style that I've been using!
 
 
Hi Margot, I had a similar problem with my kde, and everything I 
tried could not get my menus back to the way they were.
update-menus -v generated some errors, I wasn'nt sure what to due
about them. I did some searching and found a post on MandrakeExpert
list archives by James Sparenberg heres a link.

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg79939.html

My problem under the file  /home/mike/.menu/menudrakeentry
was similar to below.

?package(menu): needs=fluxbox section=Fluxbox/Styles/usr/ 
icon=applications_section.png title= charset=utf8

The title= was my problem so I (knowing this is not the right way)
looked at other entries guessed on what it should be so I used
editer and changed title= to title=share saved the file and
ran update-menus -v again and got all my menus back.

Check your /home/Margot/.menu/menudrakeentry file and if you have
a missing title= line post back and perhaps someone on list
may have the correct entry for that particular line?

Thats if, you have the same problem as I had.
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Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

2004-04-04 Thread Erylon Hines
On Sunday 04 April 2004 07:31 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Sunday 04 April 2004 15:18, eric jackson wrote:

 snip

Anybody know what I need to restore my menu back to the way
it was before I updated?

 /snip

 1. as root, run update-menus -v (watch the screen, the command
 doesn't exit by itself. When no more activity is seen, just press
 enter).
 2. as root, run menudrake, edit and save.
 3. if fluxbox is installed, uninstall it (there is a bug).

 HTH

You also need to install the 6 updates to rpm.  I installed all 6 manually 
(with the --nodeps option) and it solved my problems, allowing 
update-database to run properly.  Do a search for 
update database bugfix or something similar (the Mandrake-secure servers 
seem to be down, so that may be a deadend).  There is also a thread 
somewhere in this list's archives where I listed the 6 rpms that had to be 
installed.

e



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Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

2004-04-03 Thread Marc Resnick
eric jackson wrote:

Hi,
 
Yesterday I used urpmi to update my 9.2 system. When I booted up I was 
unable to find a menu entry for Mandrake Control Center or for any of 
the selections that are usually listed under Packaging.
 
Anybody know what I need to restore my menu back to the way it was 
before I updated?
 
Eric Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
It's a well-known problem with 9.2 systems. If you just updated, all you 
should need to do is open a terminal, 'su' to root, and enter the 
command 'update-menus -v'. Your menus should be back when that process 
is finished.

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Re: [newbie] menu items disappeared

2004-04-03 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Saturday 03 April 2004 14:04, eric jackson wrote:
 Hi,

 Yesterday I used urpmi to update my 9.2 system. When I booted up I
 was unable to find a menu entry for Mandrake Control Center or for
 any of the selections that are usually listed under Packaging.

 Anybody know what I need to restore my menu back to the way it was
 before I updated?

 Eric Jackson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
drakemenu avilabele in mcc or welcome icon on desktop under systems.
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