Re: [newbie] print/capture screen

2002-07-01 Thread Alastair Scott

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On Sunday 30 June 2002 11:43 pm, Josef Lowder wrote:

 Why is it not possible, with Linux, to use the Print Screen key to
 simply capture a screen image into memory (as MS clipboard apparently
 does) so that it can be pasted, from memory, into any given
 application program without having to go through all the extra steps
 of saving the captured image to a file first and then several more
 steps and keystrokes to import the saved file into any given
 application?

You're asking the wrong people!

As a UI designer, I do this sort of thing all the time and what I do is:

i. Add a capture button to the panel at the bottom of the screen (right 
mouse button on panel then Panel | Add | Button then pick Screen 
Capture from the program list in Multimedia | Graphics);

ii. Whenever I want to capture the screen, press that button then save 
the capture, from the window which pops up, with the default (unique) 
filename chosen;

iii. Import ad lib into KPresenter or KWord.

That certainly is not 'literally dozens of steps and keystrokes' (the 
second step is one mouse click and one button press) and, as a bonus, 
preserves the capture as a separate PNG file which I file away on 
CD-RW.

Alastair
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Re: [newbie] print/capture screen

2002-06-30 Thread Alastair Scott

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On Sunday 30 June 2002 12:44 am, Todd Slater wrote:

 Then I went to edit my Fluxbox keys file (~/.fluxbox/keys) and
 specified that I want Control + Alt + c to run this script. After
 restarting Fluxbox, all is well. I'm not sure how you do keybindings
 in KDE, but there must be a way.

There's an easier way from KDE - do Alt-F2 then type ksnapshot. The 
snapshot is grabbed immediately you press Return, then the ksnapshot 
window appears and you can do what you like with it.

Alastair
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Re: [newbie] print/capture screen

2002-06-30 Thread Todd Slater

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 11:55:06 +0100
Alastair Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 30 June 2002 12:44 am, Todd Slater wrote:
 
  Then I went to edit my Fluxbox keys file (~/.fluxbox/keys) and
  specified that I want Control + Alt + c to run this script. After
  restarting Fluxbox, all is well. I'm not sure how you do keybindings
  in KDE, but there must be a way.
 
 There's an easier way from KDE - do Alt-F2 then type ksnapshot. The 
 snapshot is grabbed immediately you press Return, then the ksnapshot 
 window appears and you can do what you like with it.

That is easy. I was looking for a way to call it from CLI without getting
the terminal in the shot. I don't think Fluxbox has any way to do that.

Todd

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Re: [newbie] print/capture screen

2002-06-30 Thread Damian G

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:10:10 -0400
Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:28:53 -0300
 Damian G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:50:54 -0400
  Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 11:55:06 +0100
   Alastair Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
There's an easier way from KDE - do Alt-F2 then type ksnapshot. The 
snapshot is grabbed immediately you press Return, then the ksnapshot
window appears and you can do what you like with it.
   
   That is easy. I was looking for a way to call it from CLI without
   getting the terminal in the shot. I don't think Fluxbox has any way to
   do that.
   
   Todd
 
  uhm.. add it to your menu?
  
  edit ~/.fluxbox/menu
  
  add a line like this:
  
  [submenu] (Snapshot-tool)
  [exec] (Ksnapshot) {ksnapshot}
  [end]
  
  HTH
  
  
  
  Damian
 
 Yes, I have that in my menu already, but it won't work unless you have
 some free desktop to click in. Is there a keyboard shortcut for bringing
 up the menu?
 
 Thanks,
 Todd


umm, if there is, i'm not aware of it, however you can always set up
key-bindings for stuff. have you tried it?

in this case, edit ~/.fluxbox/keys

and, for example, if you wanna open Ksnapshot with 
the Window$ key + k then the line to be added would be like:

Mod4 K   :ExecCommand ksnapshot

maybe you already know about his too, but.. well, just in case
you needed it ;o)

( Mod4 means the windoze key, Mod1 means Alt key aww gawd i
forgot the rest. )

damn fever.. i'll go to bed now.

Damian



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Re: [newbie] print/capture screen

2002-06-30 Thread Josef Lowder

Alastair wrote: 
 There's an easier way from KDE - do Alt-F2 then type ksnapshot. The
 snapshot is grabbed immediately you press Return, then the ksnapshot
 window appears and you can do what you like with it. 

This is helpful . . . however, my original question was: is there any way to 
do a Print Screen in Linux . . .  which would be comparable in 
simplicity and ease-of-use  . . . to the way it works with MS windows? 

Again, I want to emphasize that I am definitely pro-Linux, however when 
something as useful and basic as Print Screen works as well and efficiently 
as it does under MS windows, then I would hope that the Linux community 
would be eager to develop an equal or superior functionality for Linux. 

In this case, it seems that what has been suggested for Linux thus far is 
not nearly as simple and efficient as as the MS Print Screen feature. 

Simplicity and easy of use is not subjective.  It is determined by how few 
steps (keystrokes and separate manual operations) are required. 

In the case of MS Print Screen, there are only two steps: 

#1. Press the Print Screen button. 
#2. Press paste in any application program in which one desires to place 
the captured image. 

I use it numerous times almost every day, capturing screen prints and 
pasting them in LView (the most easy-to-use, versatile, graphics tool I 
have), or in Paint or in Paint Shop Pro or in Pagemaker or in any other 
application program where I can quickly and easily crop, resize, or edit the 
captured image. 

For comparison, using Ksnapshot with Linux, there are literally dozens of 
steps and keystrokes involved in saving a captured image to a file then 
opening that file within any given application program. 

Why is it not possible, with Linux, to use the Print Screen key to simply 
capture a screen image into memory (as MS clipboard apparently does) so that 
it can be pasted, from memory, into any given application program without 
having to go through all the extra steps of saving the captured image to a 
file first and then several more steps and keystrokes to import the saved 
file into any given application? 

Surely there must be a way to do this. 

Joe 






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