Re: [newbie] urpmi: everything already installed - NOT

2004-01-11 Thread Warren Post
El vie, 09-01-2004 a las 09:39, Anne Wilson escribió:
 Warren - this was a well-publicised problem with 8.2.  The fix was 
 simple, though I can't remember it.  It was described on the 8.2 
 Errata page, and I think it's still available.

Actually, it was a problem with 9.0:
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/90errata.php3#urpmi

The fix is unfortunately not applicable to 8.2. I'm thankful that you
mentioned it in any case, because now I have the 8.2 errata bookmarked.

Several people suggested that I may need to update my sources first.
Sorry, I should have mentioned that I had updated everything just last
week.

Others suggested several variants on urpmi commands, but I am using
rpmdrake, the GUI frontend to urpmi. Still, these suggestions gave me
the idea of trying urpmi from the command line on the problem packages,
and they installed without complaint. So apparently the problem is with
the version of rpmdrake that shipped with 8.2, and the workaround is to
use urpmi from the command line. Thanks everyone for pointing me in the
right direction.
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Re: [newbie] urpmi: everything already installed - NOT

2004-01-10 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Friday 09 January 2004 03:06 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 07:51, Tom Brinkman wrote:
  On Thursday 08 January 2004 10:12 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
 Any way, next time I will use urpmi.update.
   
I like it better myself.
  
   I  just pulled a dummy ..I did an easy urpmi but left it
   set for 9.2 instead of the 9.1 I was using It updated 682
   packages so I might be running 9.2 now OTH I didn't lose
   any data :-)
 
What does 'cat /etc/mandrake-release' say?   If you are
  running 9.2, you should also get the kernel,  'urpmi kernel'

 It says 9.2 release for fivestar

Well good for you, now get the kernel and updates for 9.2. 
Or if you want 10.0, add some cooker sources and disable all 
others ;Seriously, what you did is a good way to update to 
the next release, but if you do it with urpmi, you should
 'urpmi urpmi' first, then update.
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Re: [newbie] urpmi: everything already installed - NOT

2004-01-10 Thread Aron Smith
On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 10:09, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Friday 09 January 2004 03:06 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
  On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 07:51, Tom Brinkman wrote:
   On Thursday 08 January 2004 10:12 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
  Any way, next time I will use urpmi.update.

 I like it better myself.
   
I  just pulled a dummy ..I did an easy urpmi but left it
set for 9.2 instead of the 9.1 I was using It updated 682
packages so I might be running 9.2 now OTH I didn't lose
any data :-)
  
 What does 'cat /etc/mandrake-release' say?   If you are
   running 9.2, you should also get the kernel,  'urpmi kernel'
 
  It says 9.2 release for fivestar
 
 Well good for you, now get the kernel and updates for 9.2. 
 Or if you want 10.0, add some cooker sources and disable all 
 others ;Seriously, what you did is a good way to update to 
 the next release, but if you do it with urpmi, you should
  'urpmi urpmi' first, then update.
I'm still too much of a newbie to feel comfortable with the bleeding
edge stuff but thanks for the info :-)


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Re: [newbie] urpmi: everything already installed - NOT

2004-01-09 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 01:21, Miark wrote:
 On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 18:59:48 -0400, Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It happened to me for a week. Every time I tried urpmi any-package I
  got the everything installed message.
  
  Then I realized that I was missing the --update part of the command.
  urpmi --update any-package
 
 I've never had to use --update. If I do a urpmi vlc when vlc is already
 installed, urpmi knows enough to ask me if I want to update what I've 
 got. In fact, --update seems wholly, totally, and completely redundant 8^)
 
 Miark

I am now understanding it much better. I have to wait for the next bunch
of updates to try what I have learned. Just before this thread started I
had upgraded my kernel and kernel sources.

Gracias,

Adolfo


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Re: [newbie] urpmi: everything already installed - NOT

2004-01-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 08 January 2004 22:38, Warren Post wrote:
 Frequently when I try to update my system, rpmdrake (urpmi) tells
 me that everything is already installed. For example, I have
 bind-utils-9.2.0-6mdk currently installed. bind-utils-9.2.1-2.2mdk
 is available on the update mirrors, but when I try to update it I
 am told everything already installed.

 If I download the rpm from the mirror and install by hand,
 everything works fine, so it's not like the packages on the mirror
 are damaged.

 What should I be looking at to fix this problem? I'm using
 urpmi-4.0-20_82.2mdk and rpmdrake-1.4-18mdk on 8.2.

Warren - this was a well-publicised problem with 8.2.  The fix was 
simple, though I can't remember it.  It was described on the 8.2 
Errata page, and I think it's still available.  HTH

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: everything already installed - NOT

2004-01-09 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday 08 January 2004 10:12 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
   Any way, next time I will use urpmi.update.
 
  I like it better myself.

 I  just pulled a dummy ..I did an easy urpmi but left it set
 for 9.2 instead of the 9.1 I was using It updated 682 packages
 so I might be running 9.2 now OTH I didn't lose any data :-)


  What does 'cat /etc/mandrake-release' say?   If you are running 
9.2, you should also get the kernel,  'urpmi kernel'
   
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Re: [newbie] urpmi: everything already installed - NOT

2004-01-09 Thread Miark
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 07:14:01 -0400, Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am now understanding it much better. I have to wait for the next bunch
 of updates to try what I have learned. Just before this thread started I
 had upgraded my kernel and kernel sources.

Be warned that kernels are a different story. You're not supposed to upgrade
them--you're supposed to install them. I _think_ urpmi knows that, but I'm
not certain. Because of other software I run, changing kernels is a real
pain in the ass, so it's rare that I think about it.

Miark

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: everything already installed - NOT

2004-01-09 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 09 January 2004 15:51, Miark wrote:
 On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 07:14:01 -0400, Adolfo Bello 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am now understanding it much better. I have to wait for the
  next bunch of updates to try what I have learned. Just before
  this thread started I had upgraded my kernel and kernel
  sources.

 Be warned that kernels are a different story. You're not supposed
 to upgrade them--you're supposed to install them. I _think_ urpmi
 knows that, but I'm not certain. Because of other software I run,
 changing kernels is a real pain in the ass, so it's rare that I
 think about it.

 Miark

You are correct, Miark. I just installed the fixed kernel by 
issuing the command urpmi kernel-2.4.22.26mdk-1-1mdk and that was 
that. But remember to urpmi bootloader-utils first.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: everything already installed - NOT

2004-01-09 Thread Aron Smith
On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 07:51, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Thursday 08 January 2004 10:12 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
Any way, next time I will use urpmi.update.
  
   I like it better myself.
 
  I  just pulled a dummy ..I did an easy urpmi but left it set
  for 9.2 instead of the 9.1 I was using It updated 682 packages
  so I might be running 9.2 now OTH I didn't lose any data :-)
 
 
   What does 'cat /etc/mandrake-release' say?   If you are running 
 9.2, you should also get the kernel,  'urpmi kernel'
It says 9.2 release for fivestar



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Re: [newbie] urpmi: everything already installed - NOT

2004-01-08 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 18:38, Warren Post wrote:
 Frequently when I try to update my system, rpmdrake (urpmi) tells me
 that everything is already installed. For example, I have
 bind-utils-9.2.0-6mdk currently installed. bind-utils-9.2.1-2.2mdk is
 available on the update mirrors, but when I try to update it I am told
 everything already installed.
 
 If I download the rpm from the mirror and install by hand, everything
 works fine, so it's not like the packages on the mirror are damaged.
 
 What should I be looking at to fix this problem? I'm using
 urpmi-4.0-20_82.2mdk and rpmdrake-1.4-18mdk on 8.2.

It happened to me for a week. Every time I tried urpmi any-package I
got the everything installed message.

Then I realized that I was missing the --update part of the command.
urpmi --update any-package

Just in case ;-)

Adolfo


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Re: [newbie] urpmi: everything already installed - NOT

2004-01-08 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 08 Jan 2004 10:38 pm, Warren Post wrote:
 Frequently when I try to update my system, rpmdrake (urpmi) tells me
 that everything is already installed. For example, I have
 bind-utils-9.2.0-6mdk currently installed. bind-utils-9.2.1-2.2mdk is
 available on the update mirrors, but when I try to update it I am told
 everything already installed.

 If I download the rpm from the mirror and install by hand, everything
 works fine, so it's not like the packages on the mirror are damaged.

 What should I be looking at to fix this problem? I'm using
 urpmi-4.0-20_82.2mdk and rpmdrake-1.4-18mdk on 8.2.

Are you updating your database first?

urpmi.update -a

derek

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: everything already installed - NOT

2004-01-08 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 08 January 2004 05:59 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
  If I download the rpm from the mirror and install by hand, everything
  works fine, so it's not like the packages on the mirror are damaged.
 
  What should I be looking at to fix this problem? I'm using
  urpmi-4.0-20_82.2mdk and rpmdrake-1.4-18mdk on 8.2.

 It happened to me for a week. Every time I tried urpmi any-package I
 got the everything installed message.

 Then I realized that I was missing the --update part of the command.
 urpmi --update any-package

Don't forget that you have to run 'urpmi.update --update' first to update your 
urpmi database with the new packages for the update source.
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Re: [newbie] urpmi: everything already installed - NOT

2004-01-08 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 21:02, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Thursday 08 January 2004 05:59 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
   If I download the rpm from the mirror and install by hand, everything
   works fine, so it's not like the packages on the mirror are damaged.
  
   What should I be looking at to fix this problem? I'm using
   urpmi-4.0-20_82.2mdk and rpmdrake-1.4-18mdk on 8.2.
 
  It happened to me for a week. Every time I tried urpmi any-package I
  got the everything installed message.
 
  Then I realized that I was missing the --update part of the command.
  urpmi --update any-package
 
 Don't forget that you have to run 'urpmi.update --update' first to update your 
 urpmi database with the new packages for the update source.

Something new to me.

What I ended up doing was using the graphical interfase to check for new
updates. After that 'urpmi --update' did the rest.

I never used urpmi.update. Does the graphical interfase do an
urpmi.update automatically?

Any way, next time I will use urpmi.update.

Saludos,

Adolfo


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Re: [newbie] urpmi: everything already installed - NOT

2004-01-08 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 08 January 2004 08:29 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 I never used urpmi.update. Does the graphical interfase do an
 urpmi.update automatically?

yes.

 Any way, next time I will use urpmi.update.
I like it better myself.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: everything already installed - NOT

2004-01-08 Thread Aron Smith
On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 19:17, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Thursday 08 January 2004 08:29 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
  I never used urpmi.update. Does the graphical interfase do an
  urpmi.update automatically?
 
 yes.
 
  Any way, next time I will use urpmi.update.
 I like it better myself.
I  just pulled a dummy ..I did an easy urpmi but left it set for 9.2
instead of the 9.1 I was using It updated 682 packages so I might be
running 9.2 now OTH I didn't lose any data :-)


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Re: [newbie] urpmi: everything already installed - NOT

2004-01-08 Thread Miark
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 20:02:03 -0500, Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Don't forget that you have to run 'urpmi.update --update' first to update your 
 urpmi database with the new packages for the update source.

Unless this is something unique to 9.2, I think it's 'urpmi.update -a' to
update [a]ll your sources.

Miark

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: everything already installed - NOT

2004-01-08 Thread Miark
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 18:59:48 -0400, Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It happened to me for a week. Every time I tried urpmi any-package I
 got the everything installed message.
 
 Then I realized that I was missing the --update part of the command.
 urpmi --update any-package

I've never had to use --update. If I do a urpmi vlc when vlc is already
installed, urpmi knows enough to ask me if I want to update what I've 
got. In fact, --update seems wholly, totally, and completely redundant 8^)

Miark

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