Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader

2005-04-03 Thread Philippe Landau
how Adobe Acrobat is spying on users,
and how to disable their snooping system:
http://helping.net/p2p/AdobeAcrobatSpyingonUsers.html
Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, don't it?
Actually, from what I read, it is not Adobe that is doing this.  
A third party has written an app to use a feature of Acrobat 7 
(the ability to run Javascript within the document)
it is always a bad idea to allow javascripts without filters.
remember all the popups and pop-downs etc ?
so that the IP address of whomever is opening 
the *.pdf  can be logged.  I'm not certain that Adobe will take kindly to 
this twisting of what was probably good intentions.  
Adobe always had problems with good intentions.
Repeal DMCA! Boycott Adobe!
http://freesklyarov.org/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/07/24/adobe_folds/
http://www.google.ch/search?q=adobe+boycott+Sklyarov
In effect, it has turned a feature into a bug in Acrobat Reader, 
in the mind of many people.  
Those of us on dial-up, and those with a dynamic IP wouldn't care, but users 
with a static IP should be at least a little bit pissed.  Before we condemn 
Adobe, lets wait and see how this plays out (and maybe some will want to 
disable Java in the Reader 
Java is something else.
and install the perl script to stop the nagging).  
Also, does anyone know of any site, anywhere, using this?  Maybe, just 
boycotting those sites would be effective.  
those pdf are also distributed by email and p2p.
anyone can do it at any time.
Time will tell.
only if some pressure is applied.
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Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader

2005-04-03 Thread Margot
Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 10:25, Derek Jennings wrote:

I gave up spying on you when you started sitting at your terminal naked.

Now if only Anne and Margot would stop...
Sorry, I can't stop - I'd have to *start* first ;-)
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Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader

2005-04-02 Thread Miark
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 15:49:52 +0200, Philippe wrote:

  Adobe Reader 7 rpms can be found here
  ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/
 
 how Adobe Acrobat is spying on users,
 and how to disable their snooping system:
 http://helping.net/p2p/AdobeAcrobatSpyingonUsers.html

Version 7? Cripes, I never thought I'd see the day!
Thanks for the spyware tip.

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Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader

2005-04-02 Thread Derek Jennings
On Saturday 02 April 2005 14:49, Philippe Landau wrote:
  Adobe Reader 7 rpms can be found here
  ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/

 how Adobe Acrobat is spying on users,
 and how to disable their snooping system:
 http://helping.net/p2p/AdobeAcrobatSpyingonUsers.html

 kind regards philippe


Following a post on slashdot I came across this page
http://www.k-lug.org/~griswold/Progs/adobe7patch.html

It seems that by disabling Javascript in acroread and applying this patch we 
can stop acroread spying on us.  Of course a better solution is to stop using 
acroread.

I tried out the patch. It seems to work.

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Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader

2005-04-02 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 09:50, Derek Jennings wrote:

 It seems that by disabling Javascript in acroread and applying this patch we 
 can stop acroread spying on us.  Of course a better solution is to stop using 
 acroread.
 
 I tried out the patch. It seems to work.
 
 derek

I just don't like anyone spying on me, nor my reading of PDF documents,
nor anything else. Just as with DRM, I find it an awful breach of
privacy - et al.

Xpdf and Gpdf have been useful enough and more than adequate for my
tastes - and as Adobe enters the arena of gleaning personal information,
that only causes me to build a further dislike of their products and
services.

IMHO.

Oh, and Derek, quit spying on me.

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Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader

2005-04-02 Thread Derek Jennings
On Sunday 03 April 2005 01:13, Stephen Kühn wrote:
 On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 09:50, Derek Jennings wrote:
  It seems that by disabling Javascript in acroread and applying this patch
  we can stop acroread spying on us.  Of course a better solution is to
  stop using acroread.
 
  I tried out the patch. It seems to work.
 
  derek

 I just don't like anyone spying on me, nor my reading of PDF documents,
 nor anything else. Just as with DRM, I find it an awful breach of
 privacy - et al.

 Xpdf and Gpdf have been useful enough and more than adequate for my
 tastes - and as Adobe enters the arena of gleaning personal information,
 that only causes me to build a further dislike of their products and
 services.

 IMHO.

 Oh, and Derek, quit spying on me.

 --
 stephen kuhn

I gave up spying on you when you started sitting at your terminal naked.

Seriously though, I could live without acroread apart from the browser plugin. 
Anyone know of an opensource solution for embedded browser viewing of pdf 
docs?

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Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader

2005-04-02 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 10:25, Derek Jennings wrote:

 I gave up spying on you when you started sitting at your terminal naked.

Now if only Anne and Margot would stop...

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Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader

2005-04-02 Thread Erylon Hines
On Saturday 02 April 2005 11:12 am, SigmaX wrote:
| Miark wrote:
| On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 15:49:52 +0200, Philippe wrote:
| Adobe Reader 7 rpms can be found here
| ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/
| 
| how Adobe Acrobat is spying on users,
| and how to disable their snooping system:
| http://helping.net/p2p/AdobeAcrobatSpyingonUsers.html
|
| Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, don't it?
|
| SigmaX

Actually, from what I read, it is not Adobe that is doing this.  A third party 
has written an app to use a feature of Acrobat 7 (the ability to run 
Javascript within the document) so that the IP address of whomever is opening 
the *.pdf  can be logged.  I'm not certain that Adobe will take kindly to 
this twisting of what was probably good intentions.  In effect, it has turned 
a feature into a bug in Acrobat Reader, in the mind of many people.  
Those of us on dial-up, and those with a dynamic IP wouldn't care, but users 
with a static IP should be at least a little bit pissed.  Before we condemn 
Adobe, lets wait and see how this plays out (and maybe some will want to 
disable Java in the Reader and install the perl script to stop the nagging).  
Also, does anyone know of any site, anywhere, using this?  Maybe, just 
boycotting those sites would be effective.  Time will tell.

e



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Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader

2005-04-02 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 03 Apr 2005 01:42, Stephen Kühn wrote:
 On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 10:25, Derek Jennings wrote:
  I gave up spying on you when you started sitting at your terminal naked.

 Now if only Anne and Margot would stop...

No way - gotta have some fun somewhere

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