Re: journaling and upgrading (Re: [newbie] a filesystem question)
Charles A. Punch wrote: > Tom Brinkman wrote: > >> On Monday 17 September 2001 10:57 am, Matt Greer escribió: >> >>> on 9/17/01 10:20 AM, Tom Brinkman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> but I'd recommend switching to a journaling FS ASAP. You should have already. >>> What exactly is a journaling file system? What does it mean that it >>> journals? >>> >> >> http://www.google.com/search?q=journaling+file+system&btnG=Google+Search >> >>> Also, with 8.1 around the corner, what does it take to upgrade? If I >>> were to upgrade 8.1 over my 8.0 system, do most things remain intact? >>> Do I need to reconfigure everything? Anything to watch out for? >>> >> >> I never upgrade. I always do fresh installs. > > > I have never upgraded either. It seems that all the experts on this list > are against it, but you can also do a fresh install without formatting > your home partititon. I've only done it that way once and I'm not sure > what you want to remain intact. I think any apps that you replace will > have to be reconfigured. The advantage to me, was to keep my data intact. > > OS Upgrades are evil, and should be avoided. Even on my large enterprise servers, when it's time for a new OS, I do fresh installs. Some things I've done to aid this: I use seperate filesystems for all major areas of the system. When it's time to re-install, I can save many of my apps, and my home directories. Then the install only affects the "system" portions of the disk. A typical cross section of one of my systems might look like: / | /usr | Systems area. /var | A seperate disk if possible /tmp| /opt (where I install apps. Very often an NFS mount) /usr/local (for apps specific to a particular box) /usr/src (for source code, and kernels) /home (um.. home directries. Normally an NFS mount) /archive (just a stash. A place to store "stuff") - and so on - When I do an install, the only area(s) that get reformatted are /, /usr, /var, & /tmp The rest I leave alone. This has been a very successful approach for me. Also, by keeping the system on a seperate (small) disk, you will see some performance improvements, and less loss in the case of a disk failure. There is the occational app that might need re-installing, or rebuilding because of large changes in libs. But as a whole, it works out very well for me. Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: journaling and upgrading (Re: [newbie] a filesystem question)
Tom Brinkman wrote: >On Monday 17 September 2001 10:57 am, Matt Greer escribió: > >>on 9/17/01 10:20 AM, Tom Brinkman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> but I'd recommend switching to a journaling FS ASAP. You should >>>have already. >>> >>What exactly is a journaling file system? What does it mean that it >>journals? >> > >http://www.google.com/search?q=journaling+file+system&btnG=Google+Search > >>Also, with 8.1 around the corner, what does it take to upgrade? If I >>were to upgrade 8.1 over my 8.0 system, do most things remain intact? >>Do I need to reconfigure everything? Anything to watch out for? >> > > I never upgrade. I always do fresh installs. > I have never upgraded either. It seems that all the experts on this list are against it, but you can also do a fresh install without formatting your home partititon. I've only done it that way once and I'm not sure what you want to remain intact. I think any apps that you replace will have to be reconfigured. The advantage to me, was to keep my data intact. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #21711 > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: journaling and upgrading (Re: [newbie] a filesystem question)
A lot of people have found that doing a fresh install of a later version of Mandrake tends to save a lot of system stabillity issues. If you made a seperate /home partition, you should be able to safely format all of your other partitions and still retain most of your personal information and settings. However any extra programs (non Mandrake) will need to be reinstalled (because you formatted the drive) and maybe other people have some persepctive/experience with any settings that may need to be reset. -Paul Rodríguez 17 Sep 2001 10:57:47 -0500, Matt Greer wrote: > on 9/17/01 10:20 AM, Tom Brinkman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > but I'd recommend switching to a journaling FS ASAP. You should > > have already. > > What exactly is a journaling file system? What does it mean that it > journals? > > Also, with 8.1 around the corner, what does it take to upgrade? If I were to > upgrade 8.1 over my 8.0 system, do most things remain intact? Do I need to > reconfigure everything? Anything to watch out for? > > Matt > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > =_1000742004-7607-4297 > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
journaling and upgrading (Re: [newbie] a filesystem question)
on 9/17/01 10:20 AM, Tom Brinkman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > but I'd recommend switching to a journaling FS ASAP. You should > have already. What exactly is a journaling file system? What does it mean that it journals? Also, with 8.1 around the corner, what does it take to upgrade? If I were to upgrade 8.1 over my 8.0 system, do most things remain intact? Do I need to reconfigure everything? Anything to watch out for? Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
