Re: [Newbie]Why does XF86Setup work and XFree won't?
I assume that with XFree you mean XFree86 -configure? Lionel --- Steve Wingate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 14:49:01 -0600 > "Kent Kostuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am trying to hunt down the source of my problems getting x windows > running> on my laptop (Toshiba Tecra 500CS). I can get XF86Setup to > display but x> windows won't. So what does XF86Setup use to get the gui > interface to work,> and why can't a translate that into an appropriated > XF86Config file?> > XF86Setup generates an XFree 3.3.x style config file, which 'may' work > under XFree 4.x, but you wouldn't want it even if it did. Case in point, > The 3.3.x config won't try to load modules like freetype, glx, etc. > ___ > Newbie mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]StartX wont start
I am assuming that you mean startx (and NOT startX) You should tell us which version of X you are using and post the XF86Config (resp. XF86Config-4 if you run X 4.x.x) Theoretically in a RH distro they should be in /etc/X11 to get the version X -version should work... Lionel --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am running a Trident 9680 video card..with a packaged RedHat 7.0 > however when i type startX i get > > config error: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11XF86Config :220 > section Device > Monitor Section Keyword expected > > xinit connection refuse (erron 111) > unable to connect to X server > > Xinit no such process (erron 3) server error > > please help...thank you > > Leonardo Garcai > ___ > Newbie mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
RE: [Newbie]i830 support for Dell C400 (vesa)
In my case, I don't bother specifying HorizSync and VertRefresh in the monitor section since it's a LCD screen. I don't specify the virtual resolution either but if you must specify it, I believe it should be in the screen section but not in one of the display subsections... Lionel --- Frank W Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the reply. I have my XF86Config-4 file set this way. I've > included that file and the XFree86.0.log file generated when I startup > for your dining and dancing pleasure... > __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
RE: [Newbie]noise on the screen...
Hi Iain, > -Original Message- > From: ext Iain Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > The problem in the initial case, on the PC Chips board, is > that the VGA > chip uses the shared memory at the wrong speed- causing the > white-speckle > effect. Reducing the clock of the chip (which is possible on > this board, > via a BIOS option) can make the problem go away. Hm, I have to take a look at the BIOS. Alas, I've been there some times already (for other reasons), but I cannot recall such a setting... but my memory may be wrong. > > The noise on the screen varies in intensity with different modes, in > > 320x200 it is barely visible, in 1280x1024 it is unusable > to the extend > > that you cannot see anything at all anymore except vertical colored > > lines (red-green-blue-red-green-blue) all over the screen. > > Well, higher resolutions and refresh-rates mean more RAM is > accessed in a > given time. That is correct. Interesting is, that the noise ... I should stop using the word noise as the failure is not spread uniformly over the screen, but are more horizontal bursts. Most interesting is, that if the PC does nothing and you don't do anything too, the screen is fine. But as soon as the PC (no idea if it's the CPU, memory transfers, disk i/o or something) starts working the distortion is worse as more load the PC has. > > My *assumption* is that the shared video memory somehow gets > > overwritten > > Unlikely. Overwritten RAM would cause many other problems. > I presume the i810 doesn't have a "VGA Frequency" setting in the BIOS > setup, but you might also try some slightly more conservative memory > settings. > Have you got the correct grade of memory installed? In the PC itself or in XF86Config? In XF86Config I set it to 4Megs, but for the i810 the amount of video memory can vary. In the PC there are 512MB, which worked fine before under windows (I know this is not an argument that it should work under linux too :-) > Are you overclocking your CPU atall- higher FSBs may stretch > the RAM to speckling point. As long as IBM did not overclock the CPU it isn't. > Try more conservative RAM settings? I will try that :-) > Try choosing a more conservative video mode? Perhaps a lower > refresh-rate will help. an 8bpp mode is usable... but, you know, I cannot have a pc in my room and know that it is only working, but not optimal :-) > What about the DacSpeed setting? Look up the detected value in your log > file, and try specifying a slightly lower value? That is specified in XF86Config again, correct? I will try that too. > You have got agp support enabled, haven't you?... Yes, it's already in the kernel :-) otherwise the chipset won't work with X at all. Thanks for the numerous and promising hints! Andreas Ebbert Software Design Engineer - Nokia Networks OSS phone: +49-177-9413928, fax: +49-177-94123988 Heltorfer Straße 1, 40472 Düsseldorf, Germany ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]Success with CVS!
Well, on Saturday, I got really brave (or just fed up with an unaccelerated framebuffer) and downloades the CVS version of XFree86 (4.1.99.5). (I don't think I got it all the first time, as it crashed during the build) anyway, I managed to sucessfully build and install it! I'm still amazed at that, really. I needed a new X because my video card (Radeon 8500) is unsupported in 4.1.0, but is supposed to be in the CVS version. (It is.) I had read somewhere that whenever new libraries are added, ldconfig should be run. so I did that too, just in case After a bit of tweaking in the XF86Config-4 file (puuting the right lines in for appropriate drivers), I got the horrible xterm and twm, but at least the flicker was gone (hooray). I had previously been using KDE. Commenting out some stuff in xinitrc and changing the last line to exec /usr/bin/kdm restored KDE. So I'm happy. I now have 1024 x 768 at 16 bit color at 85 Hz, which will suffice quite nicely until v 4.2.0 is released. So yes, you guys can build X too, as I had very little experience building anything. Go for it! And a great big THANK YOU to Carl W. Soderstrom for his extremely valuable advice, which without it, I wouldn't have had a clue. Way to go, Carl! Have a great day! -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ # 63460821 ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]can not run KDE
Hi all, I've installed KDE on FreeBSD from ports. "startx" runs twm. I run startkde but it returns: >startkde xsetroot: not found xset: not found ksplash: can not connect to X server Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set. Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set. ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpected. ksmserver: can not connect to X server connect() failed: : No such file or directory However i can run kdm. a logon window appears and after logging on ,a "Session Menu" and another window appear with this lines in it: Console log for FreeBSD.Domain Jan 14 15:59:51 FreeBSD kdm[269]: no module loaded for 'kde' service. where is the problem? I have installed kde from ports.I have downloaded packages and want to try them. How can i uninstall previous kde and install a fresh one? thanks for any help. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Setting default Window Manager__
Should work the same on *BSD (that's how KDM is configured on my NetBSD notebook... It's /usr/local/bin/kdm in my case, and should be on fbsd also.) - Original Message - From: "Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [Newbie]Setting default Window Manager__ > On Sunday 13 January 2002 11:17 am, you wrote: > > > i've installed KDE over FreeBSD. > > > How can i run it and how can i make it default window manager such > > > that when running startx "KDE" runs instead of default twm. > > > > edit your .xinitrc > > I think you invoke KDE with 'startkde' or some such thing. > > look around in your man pages. man -k is your friend. :) > > > > Carl Soderstrom > > I don;t know how it is on FreeBSD (I'm using Linux), but I changed the last > line in the xinitrc file to: > > exec kdm (i.e., exec /usr/bin/kdm) > Worked for me...hope it works for you, too. > > -- > Lloyd Osten > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ # 63460821 > ___ > Newbie mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]ATI Radeon VE & Xinerama
> XFree86 4.1.0 did work with the DVI output.. > I have 2 19" Monitors.. > when they made the driver work for the Radeon VE.. they disabled the > regular VGA output. the DVI one works.. there was a connector in the box > with your Video Card... it connects to the DVI output and then looks > like a standard VGA output.. this one WILL work.. I tried the DVI/VGA connector, but it didn't work. "CrtScreen" didn't work either (in 4.1.0). Since CVS has proved fruitful for some of you, I guess this is my last chance. Guilhem. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]CVSUP and the xc folder
Hello all, I have never make a cvsup so I will need some help. First of all I create a xfree86.cvsup file like this one *default release=cvs host=anoncvs.xfree86.org base=BASEDIR *default prefix=PREFIX delete use-rel-suffix *default compress *default tag=. xc-all doctools-all utils-all now when I run CVSup I get some error about the basedir, like basedir not found or something like that. But I guess that is easily solved, now the main question, after I do CVSup I have in /usr/ a folder xc/ now the question is what are the following steps, do I have to make install something, what is that I have to make install, could somebody show me the complete sequence I will apreciated. thank you Gerardo ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]ATI Rage Fury Pro/Xpert 2000 Pro
Hi! I'd appreciate any help on ATI Rage Fury/Xpert 2000 Pro installation in XFree86. It's 16M card on AGP. I'm running on RH 7.1, Xfree86 4.0.1. I'm in trouble, and spent lots of time trying to make it working. Thank you in advance, Alexei. ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]StartX wont start
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am running a Trident 9680 video card..with a packaged RedHat 7.0 > however when i type startX i get > > config error: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11XF86Config :220 > section Device > Monitor Section Keyword expected I thought I saw a note in the XF86Config man page that line numbers in error messages were off by one, but I couldn't find it just now. In any case, the problem is certainly somewhere between lines 210 and 230, shouldn't be too hard to find. > xinit connection refuse (erron 111) > unable to connect to X server > > Xinit no such process (erron 3) server error Of course the rest of this is just cascade from the syntax error. Are you sure you mean to use the XF86Config that's in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 (I'm assuming that the missing slash between X11 and XF86Config is a transcription error)? Doesn't RedHat move the *real* XF86Config (the one that's meant to be used) to somewhere under /etc ? Perhaps startx (all lower case, normally) doesn't specify that like it should? -- Remember, more computing power was thrown away last week than existed in the world in 1982. -- http://www.tom.womack.net/computing/prices.html ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]ATI Rage Fury Pro/Xpert 2000 Pro
try updating to 4.1.0, if that don't work try CVS 4.1.99. Yeah I know it ain't easy. What's the prob with ur card btw? "Alexei A. Inozemtsev" schrieb: > Hi! > I'd appreciate any help on ATI Rage Fury/Xpert 2000 Pro installation in > XFree86. > It's 16M card on AGP. > I'm running on RH 7.1, Xfree86 4.0.1. > I'm in trouble, and spent lots of time trying to make it working. > > Thank you in advance, > Alexei. > > ___ > Newbie mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCM d-(--)@ s-:+ a-- C++ UL>+++ P>++ L+>++ E- W++ N- o? K? w--(---) !O M-- V? PS+ PE+++(++) Y+ PGP- t+(++) 5 X+(++) R++(+++) tv--@ b++ DI+++ D+ G(--) e* h(+) r%>* y? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- Nothing fights like the opposition ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]Desktop Environment, Window Manager, Xserver
Hi all, I have been really confused with this names.What are differences between them? Which of them should exist for a X system to work properly? Is KDE a Desktop Environment or Window Manager or both or none? Thanks for any help or reference. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]unsubscribe
Please unsubscribe me from the list On Monday 14 January 2002 3:00 pm, you wrote: > Send Newbie mailing list submissions to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Newbie digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. XFree86 upgrade: howto? (Hmmm Hmmm) > 2. Re: X 3.3.6 vs X 4.1 which one? (Lionel Lecoq) > 3. Re: Why does XF86Setup work and XFree won't? (Lionel Lecoq) > 4. Re: XFree86 upgrade: howto? (Dexter Filmore) > 5. Re: X 3.3.6 vs X 4.1 which one? (Lionel Lecoq) > 6. Re: fonts look odd (Lionel Lecoq) > 7. Re: i830 support for Dell C400 (vesa) (Lionel Lecoq) > 8. RE: i830 support for Dell C400 (vesa) (Frank W Miller) > 9. XF4 - SuperProbe vs. XFree86 (Sean O'Neill) > 10. Re: XFree86 upgrade: howto? (Lloyd Osten) > 11. Re: Re: Re: [Newbie]ATI Radeon VE & Xinerama (Lloyd Osten) > 12. Re: XF4 - SuperProbe vs. XFree86 (Dexter Filmore) > 13. Re: Support for i830 on Dell C400 (Lloyd Osten) > 14. Re: XF4 - SuperProbe vs. XFree86 (Sean O'Neill) > 15. StartX wont start ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 16. Re: Why does XF86Setup work and XFree won't? (Steve Wingate) > 17. Trident cursor hosed on latest CVS (Curtis Stanford) > 18. Re: Why does XF86Setup work and XFree won't? (Carl Wilhelm > Soderstrom) 19. Installer for OS X 10.1.2? (Bert Mahoney) > 20. Re: Repeated keyboard characters in X Windows > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 21. Re: Why does XF86Setup work and XFree won't? > (Lionel Lecoq) > 22. Re: StartX wont start (Lionel Lecoq) > 23. RE: i830 support for Dell C400 (vesa) (Lionel Lecoq) > 24. RE: noise on the screen... ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 25. Success with CVS! (Lloyd Osten) > 26. can not run KDE (Abbaasi Hasan) > 27. Re: Setting default Window Manager__ (Eric Sprague) > 28. Re: ATI Radeon VE & Xinerama (gravsten) > 29. CVSUP and the xc folder (Gerardo Amaya) > 30. ATI Rage Fury Pro/Xpert 2000 Pro (Alexei A. Inozemtsev) > 31. Re: StartX wont start (Ted Spradley) > 32. Re: ATI Rage Fury Pro/Xpert 2000 Pro (Dexter Filmore) > 33. Desktop Environment, Window Manager, Xserver (Abbaasi Hasan) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "Hmmm Hmmm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:10:02 -0400 > Subject: [Newbie]XFree86 upgrade: howto? > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi there! > > I am a newbie in Linux and need some help with installing an upgrade 4.1.0 > to my 4.0.0 xfree86 server. > > I installed redhat linux 7 one of these days and couldn get my gui running, > I could login using the root or any user account but when I tried to start > my xserver with 'startx', it said server crashed/no screens found. I then > discovered that my NVIDIA GFORCE MX 2 card is not supported by my xfree86 > server. So I need to install the 4.1.0 now. > > I am very new to linux/unix and I dont know yet how to download and perform > installation/upgrade to my existing xfree86. I have a dual operaing system > scenario on my machine (win98, RedHat Linux 7.0). > > Could anyone help me with how to download the tar files and untar them and > install while working under linux. I would highly appreciate if someone > can help me out with this. > > Greetings, > Vikram > > > > _ > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 12:49:48 -0800 (PST) > From: Lionel Lecoq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Newbie]X 3.3.6 vs X 4.1 which one? > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > X -version > Lionel > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Kent Kostuk wrote: > > > Here's a fundamental question. How do I know which version of xserver > > > I am running. When I run startx (or try anyways) I see messages along > > > the line "compiled for 4.1" > > > > xdpyinfo | grep version > > > > HTH > > -Oisin > > > > ___ > > Newbie mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: > > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 12:52:27 -0800 (PST) > From: Lionel Lecoq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Newbie]Why does XF86Setup work and XFree won't? > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > you should use startx > startx will use which ever server X points to. in X 4.x.x this will be > /usr/X11R6/bin XFree86 in 3.x.x it will probably be
Re: [Newbie]ATI Rage Fury Pro/Xpert 2000 Pro
Alexei, I could be off base here, but you might have a problem similar to what I had with the Xpert 2000 (not Xpert 2000 Pro). I have a web page that describes how to set up the Xpert 2000, because it is a common question on this list (http://two.ucdavis.edu/~holland/unix/xpert2000.html). It sounds like you have a slightly different card, but there's a chance that the same general approach might work. It is also possible, as another person mentioned, that a more recent version of X might do the trick. Good luck, Matt - From: "Alexei A. Inozemtsev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 16:42:48 +0300 charset="koi8-r" Subject: [Newbie]ATI Rage Fury Pro/Xpert 2000 Pro Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi! I'd appreciate any help on ATI Rage Fury/Xpert 2000 Pro installation in XFree86. It's 16M card on AGP. I'm running on RH 7.1, Xfree86 4.0.1. I'm in trouble, and spent lots of time trying to make it working. Thank you in advance, Alexei. ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]xfree-4.1.0 compilation trouble
First sorry about my ugly English. I use Mandrake Linux 8.1 with XFree-4.1.0 and they work fine. But I like to get the greater performance compiling applications with athlon optimizations. Recently I downloaded XFree86-4.1.0 souces in order to compile it with a recently compiled and succesfuly instaled gcc-3.0.3. I followed instructions (and I modified configuration files to get athlon specific code) and the "make World" stage was succesful. But the "make install" stage stops with following message: installing in programs/glxinfo... make[3]: Cambiando a directorio `/home/src/xfree/xc/programs/glxinfo' rm -f glxinfo gcc -o glxinfo -O2 -mcpu=athlon -march=athlon -ansi -pedantic -Wall -Wpointer-arith -L../../exports/lib glxinfo.o -lGLU -lGL -lXext -lX11 -lpthread -lm -Wl,-rpath-link,../../exports/lib ../../exports/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__pure_virtual' ../../exports/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__rtti_user' ../../exports/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__rtti_si' ../../exports/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__rethrow' ../../exports/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `terminate(void)' ../../exports/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__builtin_vec_new' ../../exports/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__builtin_vec_delete' ../../exports/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__rtti_class' ../../exports/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__builtin_delete' ../../exports/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__builtin_new' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[3]: *** [glxinfo] Error 1 make[3]: Saliendo directorio `/home/src/xfree/xc/programs/glxinfo' make[2]: *** [install] Error 2 make[2]: Saliendo directorio `/home/src/xfree/xc/programs' make[1]: *** [install] Error 2 make[1]: Saliendo directorio `/home/src/xfree/xc' make: *** [install] Error 2 I added -fno-rtty and I got no more rtti messages, then I added -fno-builtins but I still get "buitin" undefined references. I readed gcc docs and they says that __builtin_new, __builtin_vec_new, set_new_handler, __builtin_delete, and __builtin_vec_delete were removed from gcc in 1997. What am I doing wrong?, Is gcc-3.0.3 incompatible with XFree86? best regards. Francisco Lazur Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
RE: [Newbie]noise on the screen...
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: ext Iain Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Hm, I have to take a look at the BIOS. Alas, I've been there some times > already (for other reasons), but I cannot recall such a setting... but > my memory may be wrong. Hmm... Not a surprise. The i810 chipset uses DIMMs with SPD chips that contain memory timing information. The PC Chips M571 can also use 72-pin SIMMs; the only way to know what timings to use is to ask the user (or guess the worst)... > That is correct. Interesting is, that the noise ... I should stop using > the word noise as the failure is not spread uniformly over the screen, > but are more horizontal bursts. Most interesting is, that if the PC does > nothing and you don't do anything too, the screen is fine. But as soon > as the PC (no idea if it's the CPU, memory transfers, disk i/o or > something) starts working the distortion is worse as more load the PC > has. If your BIOS has a memory interleaving option, you might try fiddling with that. Remember to note down all BIOS settings before fiddling... > > Have you got the correct grade of memory installed? > > In the PC itself or in XF86Config? In XF86Config I set it to 4Megs, but > for the i810 the amount of video memory can vary. In the PC there are > 512MB, which worked fine before under windows (I know this is not an > argument that it should work under linux too :-) As in, is the physical memory modules correctly rated for the clock speed at which you're running them at? > > Try more conservative RAM settings? > I will try that :-) As I said earlier- be sure to note down the current settings before fiddling. > > Try choosing a more conservative video mode? Perhaps a lower > > refresh-rate will help. > an 8bpp mode is usable... but, you know, I cannot have a pc in my room > and know that it is only working, but not optimal :-) Refresh-rate, not colour depth. Look at the log to see what refresh-rate your monitor supports, and fiddle the Section "Monitor" to force X to pick a lower refresh rate. Windows seems to like 60Hz, for some reason, even when the computer is connected to a PnP monitor that can do 85Hz... Triv, 85Hz is more likely to show bandwidth problems that 60Hz... It's also more likely to induce headaches and other health problems. > > What about the DacSpeed setting? Look up the detected value in your > log > > file, and try specifying a slightly lower value? > That is specified in XF86Config again, correct? I will try that too. Yep. > > You have got agp support enabled, haven't you?... > Yes, it's already in the kernel :-) otherwise the chipset won't work > with X at all. Oh, I think it's supposed to do standard VGA... > Thanks for the numerous and promising hints! Actually, if memory serves, this may have cropped up before. Given that google.co.uk spiders the archives, some well placed queries might, just, yield more ideas. Words to look for probably include i810, XFree86, snow, and "screen corruption". Good luck ;-). -- Regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] My website: http://www.iain.thomas.dial.pipex.com/ ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]xfree-4.1.0 compilation trouble
> I followed instructions (and I modified configuration files to get athlon > specific code) and the "make World" stage was succesful. But the "make > install" stage stops with following message: might be best to ask the Xpert list this question. Carl Soderstrom. -- Network Engineer Real-Time Enterprises (952) 943-8700 ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]Chips & Tech CT65550 with XFree86 4.1.0
I found someone else having difficulty getting XFree86 version 4.1 to run on a Toshiba laptop using a CT65550 video chip set. I am running OpenBSD 3.0. The problem appears to be with the chips_drv.o driver. One solution was to replace the chips_drv.o file with one from version 4.0.3. This was done in a debian environment. Does anyone know if this would work in Open BSD 3.0? I am pretty green here, so any pointers would be appreciated. Thanks. Kent Kostuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Chips & Tech CT65550 with XFree86 4.1.0
> The problem appears to be with the chips_drv.o driver. One solution was to > replace the chips_drv.o file with one from version 4.0.3. This was done in a > debian environment. Does anyone know if this would work in Open BSD 3.0? yeah, should work. the XF86 driver modules are supposed to be platform-independent (you only need to recompile them for each new processor architecture). Carl Soderstrom. -- Network Engineer Real-Time Enterprises (952) 943-8700 ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]ATI Rage Fury Pro/Xpert 2000 Pro
I have no problem with that card and RH 7.2 (i.e. X4.1) BTW I though RH 7.1 had X 4.0.3 (at my standard version had it...) in case your info is right are you sure you have the standard release version? Lionel --- Dexter Filmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > try updating to 4.1.0, if that don't work try CVS 4.1.99. Yeah I know it > ain't easy. > What's the prob with ur card btw? > > > "Alexei A. Inozemtsev" schrieb: > > > Hi! > > I'd appreciate any help on ATI Rage Fury/Xpert 2000 Pro installation in > > XFree86. > > It's 16M card on AGP. > > I'm running on RH 7.1, Xfree86 4.0.1. > > I'm in trouble, and spent lots of time trying to make it working. > > > > Thank you in advance, > > Alexei. > > > > ___ > > Newbie mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: > > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie > > -- > -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- > Version: 3.12 > GCM d-(--)@ s-:+ a-- C++ UL>+++ P>++ L+>++ E- W++ N- o? K? w--(---) !O > M-- V? PS+ PE+++(++) Y+ > PGP- t+(++) 5 X+(++) R++(+++) tv--@ b++ DI+++ D+ G(--) e* h(+) r%>* y? > --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- > > Nothing fights like the opposition > > > ___ > Newbie mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]StartX wont start
If you have RH 7.x /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 is used for X 4.x.x. If the installation program decided that X 3.3.6 was better for you then /etc/X11/XF86Config is used... You can obviously overwrite those defaults. man XFree86 will tell you the sequence in which X searches for its configuration file... Lionel --- Ted Spradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I am running a Trident 9680 video card..with a packaged RedHat 7.0 > > however when i type startX i get > > > > config error: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11XF86Config :220 > > section Device > > Monitor Section Keyword expected > > I thought I saw a note in the XF86Config man page that line numbers in > error messages were off by one, but I couldn't find it just now. In any > case, the problem is certainly somewhere between lines 210 and 230, > shouldn't be too hard to find. > > > xinit connection refuse (erron 111) > > unable to connect to X server > > > > Xinit no such process (erron 3) server error > > Of course the rest of this is just cascade from the syntax error. > > Are you sure you mean to use the XF86Config that's in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 > (I'm assuming that the missing slash between X11 and XF86Config is a > transcription error)? Doesn't RedHat move the *real* XF86Config (the > one that's meant to be used) to somewhere under /etc ? Perhaps startx > (all lower case, normally) doesn't specify that like it should? > > -- > Remember, more computing power was thrown away last week than existed in > the world in 1982. -- http://www.tom.womack.net/computing/prices.html > ___ > Newbie mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]Virus Alert
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[Newbie]chevaux
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Re: [Newbie]chevaux
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Re: [Newbie]Desktop Environment, Window Manager, Xserver
Well, since nobody else seems to want to, I guess I'll take a shot at
this one.
Abbaasi Hasan wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I have been really confused with this names.What are differences
> between them?
> Which of them should exist for a X system to work properly?
> Is KDE a Desktop Environment or Window Manager or both or none?
> Thanks for any help or reference.
An X server is a program that provides graphical output and keyboard and
pointer (mouse) input services to multiple client programs. It
communicates with the clients using the X11 protocol. It must have
drivers to communicate with the keyboard, mouse, and display equipment.
The main purpose of the X server is to allow multiple client programs to
share the same {keyboard, mouse, display} at the same time. One of the
design goals of the X system was "mechanism, not policy". The X server
makes this possible, but it enforces minimal restrictions.
A Window Manager for X is a client program that plays a supervisory
role, i.e., it enforces policy. It decides which client gets the
"keyboard focus" at any given time. It decides where client windows are
placed on the display. I usually adds a bit of decoration around the
edges of the windows of other clients.
A "Desktop Environment" is a collection of client programs that are
intended to look nice and play well together. The X11 protocol includes
mechanisms for clients to communicate among each other, and there's a
standard for how they should do that, called ICCCM (Inter-Client
Communication Conventions Manual). But some people seem to need more
than that.
You need exactly one X server for each set of {keyboard, mouse, display}
on your network. Bear in mind that a set can include more than one of
each (search back through the list archives for the links to the
pictures of Carl Soderstrom's three 21' monitors).
In all but very unusual cases, you will want exactly one Window Manager
for each X server. There are lots and lots to choose from. TWM comes
in the Sample Implementation, Enlightenment looks real pretty, Blackbox
is simple, clean, and attractive in a minimalist aesthetic, there are
dozens more.
You may or may not want a Desktop Environment. You almost certainly do
not want to try to use more than one at a time.
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Re: [Newbie]Success with CVS!
> And a great big THANK YOU to Carl W. Soderstrom for his extremely valuable > advice, which without it, I wouldn't have had a clue. Way to go, Carl! glad to be a help. :) unfortunately I think I'm going to take a break from this list (and as many others as I can) for a little while. e-mail burnout is on top of me, and I'm starting to get wrist strain again. (and yes, I have a very nice Kinesis Ergo keyboard, and I keep my wrists straight to avoid the worst strain). I'll still try to work on the FAQ I was planning, when I'm not too badly burned out. :) Carl Soderstrom. -- Network Engineer Real-Time Enterprises (952) 943-8700 ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Desktop Environment, Window Manager, Xserver
> You may or may not want a Desktop Environment. You almost certainly do > not want to try to use more than one at a time. it *is* possible to run multiple desktop environments at the same time... it just sucks up horrendous amounts of memory and other resources. :) and there's usually not much reason to. Carl Soderstrom. -- Network Engineer Real-Time Enterprises (952) 943-8700 ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Desktop Environment, Window Manager, Xserver
Ted Spradley wrote: > > Well, since nobody else seems to want to, I guess I'll take a shot at > this one. > > Abbaasi Hasan wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > I have been really confused with this names.What are differences > > between them? I meant to include this link I just found, but I hit the send button to quickly: http://www.X.org/about_x.htm Nice, quick introduction to "Why X is better". -- Remember, more computing power was thrown away last week than existed in the world in 1982. -- http://www.tom.womack.net/computing/prices.html ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]AGPGart problem
I just got the latest cvs package, and it seems to work much better with my hardware. I seem to have lost my agpgart though. After looking in all the logs, it doesn't seem to be getting loaded. What could be the cause of this? How do I get it back. I checked, and the module is still where it is suppose to be. I also have a question about this option in my x config file. In my device section, it says option = "nodri". Could this be the source of some of my problems? I had dri working before. I guess this last cvs installation lost my setup for some reason. Thanks Jeremy West ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]CVSUP and the xc folder
On Monday 14 January 2002 09:03 am, you wrote: > Hello all, I have never make a cvsup so I will need some help. > First of all I create a xfree86.cvsup file like this one > > *default release=cvs host=anoncvs.xfree86.org base=BASEDIR > *default prefix=PREFIX delete use-rel-suffix > *default compress > *default tag=. > xc-all > doctools-all > utils-all > > now when I run CVSup I get some error about the basedir, like basedir not > found or something like that. > > But I guess that is easily solved, now the main question, after I do CVSup > I have in /usr/ a folder xc/ now the question is what are the following > steps, do I have to make install something, what is that I have to make > install, could somebody show me the complete sequence I will apreciated. > > thank you > > Gerardo Search back through the last few days for Carl Soderstrom's instructions on what to do next. They worked for me. Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ # 63460821 ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]ATI Radeon VE & Xinerama
On Monday 14 January 2002 08:13 am, you wrote: > > XFree86 4.1.0 did work with the DVI output.. > > I have 2 19" Monitors.. > > when they made the driver work for the Radeon VE.. they disabled the > > regular VGA output. the DVI one works.. there was a connector in the box > > with your Video Card... it connects to the DVI output and then looks > > like a standard VGA output.. this one WILL work.. > > I tried the DVI/VGA connector, but it didn't work. "CrtScreen" didn't work > either (in 4.1.0). Since CVS has proved fruitful for some of you, I guess > this is my last chance. > > Guilhem. I just did the CVS thing myself and it worked for my Radeon 8500, It's not as intimidating as it seems. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ # 63460821 ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie](no subject)
Just for testing! In addition, where can I get a more comprehensive tutorial. Explain core concept in using xlib? ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]ATI Xpert 128 w/Mandrake 8.0
I have an ATI Xpert 128 w/16 MB RAM (PCI version) which, unfortunately, I can't get to work under Mandrake 8.0. My monitor is an HP Pavillion D3857A. My system is an AMD K6-2 550 MHz CPU w/256 MB of PC100 RAM. Any ideas? It detects my video card and I select my montior off the list, but X won't start. Keeps telling me I don't have any screens or something...whatever that means. Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]Can I ask xlib questin here?
I am a newbie in using mailing list, this is the first time. Please tell me if have do anything wrong, say, I am too rude Can I ask question regarding xlib in this mailing list?? BTW, is there any comprehensive reference on the web about xlib. I have check the documentation in xfree86.org, but that much seems to be a API reference. I think i need to first familiar with the terms, and general flow when programming with xlib before I can read that documenation comfortable. Zenith ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]StartX wont start
the version I am running is X 4.0.1a..How exactly do I move this to the /etc/X11 when I do a ls -l of /etc/X11 I do get an entry that shows X--->./../usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA In a message dated 1/14/2002 3:19:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you run X 4.x.x) Theoretically in a RH distro they should be in /etc/X11 to get the version X -version should work...
[Newbie]Multi-head setup problem
Hello All, I do not belong to this mailing-list and am not a subscriber. I am writing this mail to you all, to get some suggestions for the solution of a persistent problem that I have been facing for quite some time due to which, I have not been able to setup the multi-head configuration. The procedure followed is in complete accordance with the documentation for dual-head setup in linuxdoc.org - Xinerama-HOWTO. I am not interested in setting-up Xinerama currently. I am only intending to bring-up dual monitor display. The steps followed are thus : * The 2 monitors are - Acer 77 * The PC is an AcerPower S Series * The 2 Video cards are : ATI Card Mach 64 [ built-into the motherboard ] Matrox MGA 2064W [ Add-on card - PCI slot ] * The output of XFree86 -scanpci is : Probing for PCI devices (Bus:Device:Function) (0:0:0) Intel 82443LX PAC Host (0:1:0) Intel 82443LX PAC AGP (0:7:0) Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (0:7:1) Intel 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (0:7:2) Intel 82371AB PIIX4 USB (0:7:3) Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (0:13:0) Matrox MGA 2064W - FIRST VIdeo Card (1:0:0) ATI card using a ATI Mach64 GDP - SECOND [built-in] Card. Problem : The monitors work fine when, each one of the cards are individually, a part of the configuration. When the cards are simultaneously made a part of the configuration, the recurring problem that occurs is, that the built-in card [ ATI Mach64 ], gets suppressed. The only card being recognised in such a situation is the Matrox MGA ! This problem is not allowing me to have both the monitors work in unison. The file : /etc/sysconfig/hwconf, has two entries for the 2 "VIDEO" cards. The "driver" field in the file indicates that the ATI-3D Card is "disabled". Kudzu promptly removes the existing ATI, built-in card from the configuration, thus leading to this show-stopper. Owing to this problem of mute-suppression of one card, I am not able to proceed with the process of configuring multi-head support. I earnestly, request some timely suggestions in this regard, as I have not found any online documentation regarding this kind of weird behaviour. The few questions that rise in my mind are : * Do motherboards have a default jumper-setting which allows only single video-card support ? If so, achieving my setup would be a matter of changing the jumper-settings. Acer manuals do not indicate such a fact. * Does this problem have to do with the fact that, one of the video-cards is a motherboard-built-in Video card ? Does the scenario change, when the 2 video-cards are add-on cards ? * Does BIOS have some feature by which, support for 2 video cards can be enabled ? Definitely, something is missing, that I am not able to decipher. - Kindly revert back to Shobhit Mathur [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] - THank you very much in advance... --- Information transmitted by this E-MAIL is proprietary to Wipro and/or its Customers and is intended for use only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient or it appears that this mail has been forwarded to you without proper authority, you are notified that any use or dissemination of this information in any manner is strictly prohibited. In such cases, please notify us immediately at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this mail from your records.
Re: [Newbie]Desktop Environment, Window Manager, Xserver
KDE is a desktop environment, which includes a window manager. You do need a window manager, but you can get away without a desktop environment if you need the RAM. - Original Message - From: "Abbaasi Hasan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: [Newbie]Desktop Environment, Window Manager, Xserver > Hi all, > I have been really confused with this names.What are differences > between them? > Which of them should exist for a X system to work properly? > Is KDE a Desktop Environment or Window Manager or both or none? > Thanks for any help or reference. > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > ___ > Newbie mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Can I ask xlib questin here?
probably xlib questions should be directed to Xpert, but ask anyway, someone might know. - Original Message - From: "Zenith Lau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:57 AM Subject: [Newbie]Can I ask xlib questin here? > I am a newbie in using mailing list, this is the first time. Please tell me > if have do anything wrong, say, I am too rude > > Can I ask question regarding xlib in this mailing list?? > > BTW, is there any comprehensive reference on the web about xlib. > > I have check the documentation in xfree86.org, but that much seems to be a > API reference. I think i need to first familiar with the terms, and general > flow when programming with xlib before I can read that documenation > comfortable. > > Zenith > ___ > Newbie mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]Mouse Cursor
Hi, I'm using XFree86-4.1 with an S3 Trio 3D/2X which I've configured as an S3 ViRGE and I get a nice display. However my PS/2 mouse gives issues. The cursor is always at the top right hand corner of the screen. How do I get control of this cursor? My second question - is S3 Trio 3D/2X ever going to be supported or do I have to just buy an i8x ;-) TIA -Wash S y s t e m s A d m i n. -- Odhiambo Washington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"The box said 'Requires Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com Windows 95, NT, or better,' Tel: 254 2 313985-9 Fax: 254 2 313922 so I installed FreeBSD." GSM: 254 72 743 223 GSM: 254 733 744 121 This sig is McQ! :-) ++ Be free and open and breezy! Enjoy! Things won't get any better so get used to it. ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]strange problem with kdm & multiple monitors ...
Hi Anyone have a clue here ... I've got 2 monitors and am happily runnin XFree86 4.0.1(or maybe 4.0.3 came with RH7.1;-) on it ... startx brings up the 2 monitors nicely and Setting default runlevel to 5 got gdm up .. but when i put tried kdm both my monitors come blink alternately for some time and then kdm dies .. no error messages nothin ... i tried gdm and xdm both work without a twitch .. what seems to be the problem kde has .. And since now i know that XF86Config-4 matters thanks to the list ... and my friend who left his old b/w monitor with me ... i tried playin around with the file but seems to make no difference ... Anybody know why ? Cheers Ani May all your PUSH'es be POPped. ** This email (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient/s and may contain material that is CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVATE COMPANY INFORMATION. Any review or reliance by others or copying or distribution or forwarding of any or all of the contents in this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by email and delete all copies; your cooperation in this regard is appreciated. ** ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
