Re: [Newbie]Please help: refresh rate too high in RH8 generatedconfig
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Lionel Lecoq wrote: > I don't know RH 8 but RH 7.x generates two config files both located in > /etc/X11. The one XF86Config is there for those who use X 3.3.6 the > other XF86Config-4 for those who use X 4.x.x If you have such a setup, > any change to the wrong config file won't have much effect... Lionel Red Hat 8.0 only generates a single file /etc/X11/XF86Config. The XFree86-3.3.6 server and drivers have been completely removed and so the need for two sets of config files is gone. ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Please help: refresh rate too high in RH8 generated
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Lance Birtcil wrote: > I've installed RedHat 8 on my machine and am running into a bit of a > problem with the xserver. I'm trying to run my monitor, a Viewsonic > G810, at 1600x1200 but something (xserver ??) keeps insisting on using a > refresh rate of 85.2 Hz, higher than that which my monitor supports at > that resolution. Here are some details: > > >From Viewsonic's site, g810 characteristics: > Horizontal refresh range: 30 - 97 kHz, Vertical refresh range: 50 - > 180 Hz > > What I've tried: First, I used the Redhat setup configuration. When I Does this mean that you ran the redhat-config-xfree86 tool from the commandline as root? That tool enables you to enter the ranges and to select the resolution and it will calculate the max acceptable modelines. > restarted after install, I got the black screen of death. Then I ran > /etc/X11/bin/xf86config manually and set the ranges above, restarted the This is not the Red Hat preferred configuration tool for XFree86. [snip] > I know that the monitor will do 1600x1200 @ 76Hz, but for the life of > me, I cannot find where (actually how) to explicitly set vertical > refresh. I believe the rate based on the numbers entered in the file at IIRC, there are a set of preset VESA modes built-in to the XFree86. If your desired modes are in anyway determined to be incorrect then they will be used to override the XF86Config [snip] What does "ddcprobe" return? P.s you could try asking on the redhat-xfree86-list where Mike A. Harris the Red Hat XFree86 maintainer hangs out. HTH, Oisin Feeley p.s. please set your mail client to wrap the lines at <=72 characters as your post is unreadable (goes off screen) unless it is reformatted (I've done that in the includes to this reply). You're more likely to get answers if people can read your mail, and they're more likely to be polite! ;-) ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Is this all there is to XFree86?
On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Chuck Gelm wrote: > Howdy: > > I think that I have successfully installed 4.2.1. > I can 'startx' and I get a blank desktop with a > small clock and three (3) windows; 'login', 'xterm', > and 'xterm'. There is no color. It is all monochrome > in shades of gray. I can toggle (ctl-alt-'+') among > 3 resolutions. > > Is this all there is? > > How do I do a Graphic User Interface? Wellyou are! > > How do I run a Netscape browser? > In the xterm try "netscape &". It sounds as though you are not running a window manager, or else are running a really minimal window manager. In the xterm try a "ps -ax | grep wm", "ps -ax | grep -i "gnome", "ps -ax | grep -i kde" and report what the results are. If there's nothing at all then you haven't got a WM running or a desktop manager. These are what provide all the nice decorations and backgrounds. You could then (initially from the xterm, but later from your distro-specific scripts) run something like WindowMaker, or go the whole hog and run a desktop like Gnome or KDE. Check to see how your distro prefers to do it by reading their release docs. HTH, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Using the intel 82845G video card
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Scott Hadfield wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to use the i82845G video card with RedHat 7.3. However, > there was no support for this video card until the most recent version > of XFree86. I was wondering if it was possible to take just the driver > for that card out of cvs and somehow patch the version of XFree86 that > I'm using. The reason I don't want to just install the most recent > version yet is because we've got about 25 computers all running this > video card and I'm worried it will be a long and painful process to do a > re-install for each of these machines. It should be possible to just build the driver for that card. If you can get the source for the module and rebuild it against the glibc and kernel-headers that you have installed on RH7.3 then it should be a case of compiling it and moving the new module.o into /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers. If you do a Google search for the module name then you _may_ get lucky and find out that someone else has built it. AFAIK it would have to have been built against a compatible kernel and glibc version though. HTH, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]Red Hat 8.0 "couldn't open default font" error
On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i have problems with X in redhat 8.0 > > the computar say me > > fatal server error: > could not open default font 'fixed'... > [snip entire irrelevant digest] Hi, I've retitled your post with a more informative subject. This will help anyone else that uses a search engine to find answers. Please do not "Reply" to posts if you are not answering or asking a question specifially related to them. Start a new thread instead by composing a mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" with an appropriate subject line. Please do not quote material unrelated to your post. You quoted the entire digest which means that everyone on this list got a HUGE mail from you which didn't help you or them. Now, on to your question. Do you have a section like this in your /etc/X11/XF86config?: Section "Files" # RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "unix/:7100" EndSection If you don't then you might want to try running "redhat-config-xfree86 --reconfig" on the commandline as root. If you do, then do you have a firewall running on the machine or an overly-restrictive tcpwrapper setting with /etc/hosts.deny? HTH, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Port 32768
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, A.Melon wrote: > How can tcp port 32768 be disabled? When using startx, > the -nolisten tcp option seems to disallow all tcp > access, but when using xdm, it only disallows port 6000. > I haven't been able to shut down port 32768, and haven't > found any documentation that describes how to do it. > > Thanks. > You could always try using a firewall. Check out www.netfilter.org Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Disable Port 32000+
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, A.Melon wrote: > How does one disable tcp access on ports at or about 32768? > When I start X with startx, this port doesn't seem to be used, > and the -nolisten tcp option makes sure that port 6000 isn't > used either. However, when I use xdm, the -nolisten tcp option > still turns off port 6000, but a netstat -ap shows that xsm is > listening on port 32768 (or 32769, or something similar). I > have DisplayManager.requestPort 0 in xdm-config, but it doesn't > seem to work. I can't find anything in the xdm or xsm > documentation that speaks to this - everything I have found > suggests that -nolisten tcp ought to turn off remote access, > and it does turn off port 6000, but not port 32768. I don't > really want these ports turned on until I fully understand the > security implications. > > A. We heard you the first three times. You are now spamming the list with your repeated demand for information. Please don't. Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]X hangs after being loaded
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Frederik wrote: > Greetings everyone, > > I have installed a fresh Slackware with Xfree 4.1.0. > When starting X, the computer just hangs, only a hard reset > revives it.I can reach the desktop, but nothing more.I have tried > installing 4.2.0, but have recieved the same result.I googled and > searched the list archives, but have not found a similar issue. > I do not have an unusual setup, and it has worked before with the very > same distro and the same installation config, so I am suspecting a > config problem.If anyone can think of a config file/BIOS > setting/whatever that I might be missing, I would deeply appreciate > it.Even the tiniest tidbit of indormation is welcome, as I cannot think > of anything anymore. > Search through the logs (they're distro dependent), possibly /var/log/XFree86.0.log looking for lines that begin with a (WW). There'll be an explicit statement of what the problem is there. See if it makes any sense. If it doesn't post the log and then maybe someone will be able to help you. HTH, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]X on MAC OSX
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Paul D. Filliman wrote: > I am trying to get X started on my powerbook G4. I have installed > Xfree86. The directory¹s look Right. I set the path required. Whenever I > attempt to run a program using X I get the error ³Can't open display² I > have tried setting DISPLAY to the machine name but it does not work. How > can I set DISPLAY, or is there another problem. Your Microsoft Mail User Agent is putting bizarre, non-standard characters into your posts making them hard to read. Have you made sure that you used the syntax "DISPLAY=hostname:0" ? The "0" in this specifies the display number. When you say "whenever I try to run a program requiring X" does that mean that you actually have an X session running? Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
RE: [Newbie]Radeon 7500 not in list of cards
On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Villafane, Pedro M SGT (88 DCS, G6) wrote: >> brakobak wrote: >> >> I just installed a Radeon 7500 in my computer. I >> updated XFree86 to ver 4.2.1. When I run Xconfigurator the Radeon 7500 >> is not in the list of cards to choose from even though the README says >> it is supported. How can I get this card to work? > Use XFree 3.X.X I did it with an old Packard Bell 486 DX 2 The video > adapter was listed but it did not work at all. So I use the midnight > commander and unzipped the XFree 3.x.x file and removed the 4.8 Now it > works like champ with sound and all the goodies! Don't use XFree86-3.x.x it does not support the full DRI options available for fully supported cards such as the Radeon 7500. Ask someone on this list with a Radeon7500 to post their XF86Config, copy it and then check the /var/log/XFree86.0.log to see if there are any errors. Possibly you need to update Xconfigurator also? What distro are you using? (Xconfigurator is a RH specific tool AFAIK and in their latest distro release, 8.0, they've dropped it in favour of redhat-config-xfree86). Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]xkb
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I need to switch languages (English, French, Italian) very often within > the same document where I am using text and graphics - in OpenOffice, > specifically. s there some way to switch keyboard layouts on FreeBSD > quickly and painlessly as can be done on Windows? On Windows, hiting > Left Shift + Alt switches between keyboards. An alternate way of > entering accented or "strange" characters (on Windows) is to hold down > Alt and enter the ASCII codes from the number pad, e.g. Alt - 0233 > produces é. I was told that xkb (or is it XKB) could do this; that I > could switch keyboards with hotkeys. Would this work in OpenOffice? In > kde3? Where can I find info on how to implement and use? Thanks in > advance, Hi, AFAIK, xkb is implemented as part of the xserver rather than a standalone program. The utilities that make use of it are "xkbcomp, xkbprint, xkbbell, xkbevd, xkbvleds, and xkbwatch". There are applets that allow you to switch on the fly from within windowmanagers (such as http://anaproy.homeip.net/proycon/wmkeymapper.tar.gz wmkeymapper within WindowMaker), I think that you might be better off trying to make use of "xmodmap" (which has a front end http://www.jwz.org/xkeycaps/ ) or you could try using "loadkeys": see "man loadkeys" for more info. I don't know about a specific key-combo that will do this. There are also things like gnome-character-map, which I presume has a KDE counterpart which are like the character-picker apps in M$Win and Mac and allow one to choose accented character by pushing a keyboard picture button. HTH, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]memory useage of X
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Jason Riley wrote: > This is unlikely as we are running the same top version. also the > difference in memeory useage is considerably more then the meagre 32mb > on my graphics card. also as i am running processes large enough to fill > memory, i am overrunning the system memory when i need more than the > remaining 3/4 of my system memory. > > Is there some optimisation of x memory useage or is this a feature of > redhat vs mandrake? ( as i need to reinstall my o.s. it would be useful > to know as whilst i am a redhat man if switching to mandrake will > improve my memory performance which is key to my work it would be useful > to know now) >> >> Adam Luter wrote: >> You are probably using a tool (e.g. top) that is including the >> memory onboard the video card, as well as the system memory. >> >> On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 05:27:25PM +, Jason RILEY wrote: >> > I've always experienced a massive overuse of memory by X (c 120M >> > ram) but recently a freind running xfree4.2 on mandrake found his >> > usage on upgrading to 4.2 was reduced to c 20M. Thinking ti save >> > memory i also upgraded to xf86 v4.2, however i still use 120M RAM is >> > there an easy way to fix this problem? I think Lionel Lecoq answered this already, but basically the system is running as expected. Linux/BSD/BeOS/MacOSX all try to use as much of the memory as possible. All the processes compete for it. The competition can be weighted using the "nice" command. See "man nice" for more details. So, if you have some computational process that you want to be given priority as a memory hog you can set it to a nice-value of "-20". You can also use "top" to renice processes on the fly. Your question is not an XFree86 specific one, it's a general *NIX sysadmin question. Please use your manuals, Google, books and comp.unix.sysadmin. XFree86 is working as expected. HTH, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Help: Installation of Video / Sound / Modem Drivers -RH Ver 8.0
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, N Sriram wrote: > Yesterday, I had successfully installed RH Ver 8.0 in my machine. > > My Machine Configuration is as follows: > > P4 1.7 > Intel D845GLLY Mother Board > with integrated Sound and Video > 40 GB HDD > Samtron 56v 15" Monitor > Logitec Optical Mouse... > > I have the following problem, > > 1. X Configurator auto deducted my on-board Video Card by installed > the i810/815 Chipset Video Drivers I think... due to which, the X when > started distorted image appears on the screen.., but I am able to > login, the resolution is such that the fonts are too big and > everything id out of focus in the monitor. > If you were using Red Hat 8.0 then you CAN'T have been using Xconfigurator because it doesn't exist in the distribution. The appropriate tool is "redhat-config-xfree86". You need to read the release-notes and the manuals included in your distribution. All the rest of your questions are inappropriate for this mailing list which deals with XFree86 configuration problems also. As you are concerned with Red Hat 8.0 you may wish to subscribe to the Red Hat mailing list for this distribution here: https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list If you do decide to subscribe, make sure that you read the information about _unsubscribing_ and save your password, because quite a few people don't seem to figure this out. HTH, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Diamond video card help...
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002, Perfect Mediocrity wrote: > Hello and thank you for taking the time to read this and help out! > The situation as it stands so far is that: > I have installed Slackware Linux on a 1995 Micron Millennia Box, i586 with a > Diamond Stealth (64?)2001 > video card in it. I believe the chipset is an S3 Trio 3D... For whatever The first thing to do is to find out exactly what that card is. Why do you think it's an S3 Trio 3D chip? Why do you write "64?" ? If you find out exactly what the chip is on the card then things will be easier. > reason the Super Probe program doesn't exist on my Slackware system, so I > havent been able to probe the card and find out the exact chipset, but I'm > fairly sure its the S3 Trio 3D... Just saying "Slackware" doesn't provide very much information. The particular release number of the distribution will convey more information to other Slackware users that may be able to help you. Even more importantly for this list will be the version of XFree86 that you're running. Try the following to find out what the card is: "/sbin/lspci -vv | grep "VGA compatible controller" to find out what version of XFree86 you're running: "X -version" HTH, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]X Clipboard Xtremely Broken
On 26 Nov 2002, Erik Moeller wrote: >Hi, > >whenever I try to paste large amounts of text (>1 bytes), e.g. from >an editor (irrelevant which one I use) to a browser (also doesn't matter >which browser I use), I get big problems. It doesn't matter if I use >PRIMARY or CLIPBOARD, the pasted text just doesn't arrive. In Mozilla I >just get a long delay and nothing happens, in Konqueror even stranger >things happen, such as random characters appearing in the paste area. I >also get the "random characters" effect in Opera after some testing. The >only thing that tends to work well is pasting within the same >application. Some applications even lose their clipboard contents when >closed. What distribution and version are you using? I know there are strange artifacts with Red Hat 8.0 where "emdash" and accented characters like the French accent acute will prevent proper cut-n-paste. Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]X Clipboard Xtremely Broken
On 27 Nov 2002, Erik Moeller wrote: >On Die, 2002-11-26 at 17:29, Oisin C. Feeley wrote: >> On 26 Nov 2002, Erik Moeller wrote: >> >> >Hi, >> > >> >whenever I try to paste large amounts of text (>1 bytes), e.g. from >> >an editor (irrelevant which one I use) to a browser (also doesn't matter >> >which browser I use), I get big problems. It doesn't matter if I use >> >PRIMARY or CLIPBOARD, the pasted text just doesn't arrive. In Mozilla I >> >just get a long delay and nothing happens, in Konqueror even stranger >> >things happen, such as random characters appearing in the paste area. I >> >also get the "random characters" effect in Opera after some testing. The >> >only thing that tends to work well is pasting within the same >> >application. Some applications even lose their clipboard contents when >> >closed. > >> What distribution and version are you using? I know there are strange >> artifacts with Red Hat 8.0 where "emdash" and accented characters like >> the French accent acute will prevent proper cut-n-paste. > >Happens both in Debian Woody and SuSE 7-8.0. Normal clipboard operations >work, just large text causes lots of problems. I would be very surprised >if the same operations that don't work on my system (e.g. copying 1 >bytes from gvim to Mozilla) work on yours. You're going to have to specify what you mean by "copying to Mozilla" means. Do you mean pasting into a cgi-bin based form? If so, then that's likely where your problem lies. I can confirm that pasting 13K of text _from_ Mozilla _to_ vim works fine for me. This was using only the standard alphanumeric characters. As soon as quotes and single-quotes were used then the pasting no longer worked. Similarly emdashes. Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]font issue?
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Jeffrey Ross wrote: >Not sure if its a problem with XF (downloaded the xc release via CVS about a >week ago). > >Trying to run Adobe Acrobat and I receive the following error: > >[jeff@linux2 bin]$ ./acroread >Warning: charset "UTF-8" not supported, using "ISO8859-1". >Aborted > >specifics: >started with: RH8.0 >kernel 2.4.20-rc4 (needed for IDE DMA) > Hi Geoffrey, read Red Hat's release notes. You'll save yourself a lot of time: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/release-notes/x86/ QUOTE: Red Hat Linux now installs using UTF-8 (Unicode) locales by default in languages other than Chinese, Japanese, or Korean. This has been known to cause various issues: Certain third party applications, such as the Adobe(R)Acrobat Reader(R) may not function correctly (or crash upon startup) because they lack support for Unicode locales. Until third party developers provide such support in their products, you may work around this issue by setting the LANG environment variable at the shell prompt to C prior to typing the application name. For example: env LANG=C acroread Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
[Newbie]Where have archives gone?
Hi all, does anyone know where the weblink to the list archives has gone? It used to be accessible from: http://www.xfree86.org/mailman/listinfo/newbie where there was a link to "Archives". Am I misremembering this, or has something changed? A google search of old pipermail archived XFree86 posts leads to 404s. Cheers, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]X Clipboard Xtremely Broken
On 28 Nov 2002, Erik Moeller wrote: >On Don, 2002-11-28 at 00:42, Oisin C. Feeley wrote: > >> You're going to have to specify what you mean by "copying to Mozilla" >> means. Do you mean pasting into a cgi-bin based form? If so, then >> that's likely where your problem lies. I can confirm that pasting 13K >> of text _from_ Mozilla _to_ vim works fine for me. This was using only >> the standard alphanumeric characters. As soon as quotes and >> single-quotes were used then the pasting no longer worked. Similarly >> emdashes. > >So we do have the same problem. Any idea what the cause is? I have this >problem with most applications -- are application programmers just >stupid, or is X' clipboard broken? > Hi Erik, would you care to answer the question about what you're trying to do? I initially responded to your message saying that this was something to do with "emdash" and other characters (such as accented characters common in non-English languages). I still hold that this is the case. There is a bug-report open in RH8.0 which so far has been answered with the suggestions that this is something to do with the i18n and l10n of the applications. Specifically the suggestion is made by Red Hat to make sure that both applications are using the same encoding. Here's the bug reference for Bugzilla if you're interested (I've taken out the email addresses of the reporters in case they don't want their emails available): Bugzilla Bug - 75378 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=75378 Description of problem: If I cut -umount out of a man page with gnome-terminal it comes out as ?^?^?umount in another gnome-terminal window. How reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Open two gnome-terminal windows 2. man sash 3. Search for umount 4. Cut -umount 5. Paste it in the other gnome-terminal window Actual Results: ?^?^?umount Expected Results: -umount Additional info: Works fine from gnome-terminal to galeon This also an issue with xterm. The minus signs aren't displayed in xterm. In fact if you paste a man page minus from gnome-terminal to xterm. It's not displayed either. Pasting to Eterm results in this "\x{2212}". Additional comment by xx on 2002-10-14 21:19:59 The text is copied in the current locale (which by default is probably UTF-8). If the application which is running in the second window can't handle data in the same format, then it's actually a bug in the receiving application (if it's a terminal emulator, it'll actually be the app running in it). If you're pasting onto the command line, it'd be useful to know which shell you're using. Additional comment by xxx on 2002-10-14 21:31:05 From two different gnome-terminals both with the same locale and using zsh in both. As a workaround I am setting my /etc/sysconfig/i18n to 7.3 style aka pre-utf8. Additional comment by xx on 2002-10-14 21:57:16 I see it with 2 gnome-terminals started from redhat menu under gnome running bash. It you alias man='env LANG=C man'. The problem goes away. It's not just man that is screwed I've got at least 5 apps aliased like this. ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Some very basic How-to needed
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Mark R. Muto wrote: >Hello all, > >After years of goofing around with leftover PCs and Frankenstien >combinations of older hardware, I decided to give RedHat Linux 8.0 a new >PC of its >own. I purchased a brand new 1.8ghz Pentium 4 PC from Dell (whitebox >equivalent of Optiplex GX260). The system has an Intel D845GBV >motherboard >with 512MB RAM, 40GB IDE hard drive, integrated audio, video & nic. > >I installed RedHat 8 and the video won't work properly. I can't seem to >figure out where to get the drivers (Redhat?,Nope. Intel?, Nope. Dell?, >Forget it...) or even how to adjust the video so that it displays >properly. >I'd hate to run it down at basic 640x480 VGA, but I can't get the GUI to >work well enough to change to that either. The 845 chipset was correctly >ID'd by the GUI installer, so I don't know what the problem is. > >It's always been too much work to get Linux running, but I've always >felt >that I've not given it a fair shake. Now I've got a system that would >run >any version of Windows superbly. I've made the effort and the >investment, >and I'm getting pissed off. Please help me if you can. First step is always to check what the chipset actually is (you say it's an i845). Second step is to check and see if the version of XFree86 supplied with the distro has drivers for the chipset (for Red Hat use "rpm -q XFree86", in general use "X -version", then look at the Driver Status documents http://www.xfree86.org/current/Status17.html#17). In your case the distro-supplied version of XFree86 doesn't contain drivers. You'll have to download XFree86 source code and build your own - which is easy "make world; make install". You can find out how to do all this and much more by using Google to search for information and reading the docs on the http://www.xfree86.org and http://www.tldp.org websites. If you use Google to search the archives of this list then you'll see that several people have discussed the exact same question. HTH, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Some very basic How-to needed
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Daryl Lee wrote: >I just solved this problem (with a little help from the mailing list). The >solution that worked for me is to retrieve the current state of the XFree86 >code from their CVS server, run 'make World' and 'make install', then run >xf86config again. When I did that (with the same hardware you have) all >was well, except that the size of the virtual screen is bigger than the >size of the physical screen, resulting in a lot of vertical and horizontal >panning. But it beats 640x480. > Daryl, what does your Section "Screen" look like? Also in Section "Monitor" do you have a DisplaySize line? Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Linux distributions.
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Hans Borg wrote: >Hi all, > >Have followed this forum for a time. > >No doubt that video-cards and associated monitors present problems >in any X-server used (XFree86, XFreeBSD .). > >My impression, though, is that a lot of people using RedHat are running >into problems. I my self is using Slackware. I have been told that Slackware >requires more "knowledge". Isn't that what Linux is about. The user have >control. RedHat seems to approach MS-widows OS. That is probably why >I am getting so many reports about security holes introduced by RedHat. > >Other peoples opinion would be interesting to hear. > Slackware is a great distribution. So are all the other distributions. Red Hat has the largest market share so more people are using it. Also Red Hat tends to attract more newbies because it appears a little easier or has that reputation. The newbie@xfree86 list probably isn't the best place to start a distro-flamewar. These are always non-productive, convey no information to anyone and waste electrons. It'd be best if we all concentrated on helping each other sort out problems where we can. Sorry if this post sounds a little rude, but I'm sick of distro-discussions. Let's keep it technical and help each other out instead. (Otherwise the *BSD people will triumph ;-) ) Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Linux distributions.
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Jonathan Drews wrote: > I have found Libranet (which is Debian Woody with an install interface) >to be very good. No problems with X in that one. I think SuSE is ok. >My video in SuSE runs well. However I am curious about the "modprobe: >can't locate char-major-226" warning. I thought this was associated >with X in some way. > Yup, that'd be DRI. Check /usr/src//Documentation/devices.txt : 226 charDirect Rendering Infrastructure (DRI) 0 = /dev/dri/card0First graphics card 1 = /dev/dri/card1Second graphics card ... HTH, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]startx crash
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Jonathan Drews wrote: >On Saturday 30 November 2002 10:52 am, J H wrote: >> I am running SuSE 8.1, and I am trying to get Xwindows 4.2.0 to work. >> I have an S3 Savage4 on-board video card. When I put in 'startx' in >> returns this: > > > > > Hi: > > Did you try running SuSE's SaX2 X cofiguration tool? BTW Is this a >Microtel computer? If so I have the same and can yank my ATI card and >try my S3 Savage 4 card and see what has to be done. > Also, anyone with Savage based cards would be well advised to get the latest drivers from Tim Robert's page and sign up to the savage driver email list if they have any problems: http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html HTH, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Linux distributions. (Oisin Feeley)
On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Hans Borg wrote: >Hi >I am really sorry for the interpretation of my RH comments. >It was definitely not sent to flame group nor to degrade RH. >The group is for help out, no doubt. I was just puzzled by >all RH problems in conjunctions with XF86 and installs sent >to this group, and wanted to hear other peoples opinions. >That also include securuty holes. Is that wrong ??? >I may have phrased my self badly. > >All my apologizes. > >Do you Oisin Feeley also accept this ? > No worries Hans! I just don't think distro-comparison discussions are a good idea. They inevitably degrade into flame wars. As I posted before I think that one sees more RH-newbie posts because of market-share. A lot of more experienced users are comfortable with the other excellent distributions that they got used to before RH became so popular. I don't know of any reliable security-analysis whitepapers that shows that one distro is more/less secure than another. The thing is that once a user installs any distribution they can (mis)configure it as badly as they like or as well as they like. A Lindows box can be locked down securely by an experienced admin and an OpenBSD can be turned into a joke by an inexperienced admin. Best wishes, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Re: CMI8738 + Xfree86
On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Mr. Rafael Cheng wrote: >Just realized one more thing... when I logged in x >windows as root, I gained some sound. So this >make me think that there must be a directory where >its permissions is only for root. Does anyone >know which directory this may be? > Hi Rafael, It may be that the permissions for the sound-device are set so that it is accessible only by root. Even if that is the case your distribution may use a console-permissions model in which users that are logged into the console are allowed to access the devices. If this is the case you will have a file somewhere in /etc that deals with console permissions (possibly /etc/security/console.perms, but this is distribution specific AFAIK). I think you should ask this question on a mailing list specific to your distribution rather than on this list which deals only with XFree86 setup. HTH, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Does anyone know anything about compiling Mozilla?
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Joshua L. McDowell wrote: > After finally getting mozilla to compile and install in hopes that it >would run better it runs much worse. It's laggy and so on, can anyone >offer any insight as to why this is? > >Joshua L. McDowell You'll get more help on this question from one of the mozilla.org newsgroups or on your distro-specific mailinglist. But here are some suggestions: 1. Your distro comes with prelink support and the previous version of mozilla was prelinked and this one isn't? 2. During "./configure" you didn't pass aggressive optimizations to the compiler and your previous mozilla was built that way? 3. You may be having some font issues (check the /var/log/messages) Was any of that any use? Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]mail archive
On 1 Dec 2002, Igor Parchakov wrote: >Hi, > >Is there any mail archives available to browse on xfree86.org. I'm >configuring X for my PowerMac G4 Cube, and I'm sure my questions are >olready answered before. > >Regards, >Igor Up until about a week ago there were. They used to be at http://www.xfree86.org/mailman/listinfo/newbie but I can't find them now. Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]mail archive
On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Georgina O Economou wrote: >At 12:45 PM 12/1/2002 -0500, you wrote: >> > Is there any mail archives available to browse on xfree86.org. I'm >> > configuring X for my PowerMac G4 Cube, and I'm sure my questions are >> > olready answered before. >There is another method to view the archives: www.marc.theaimsgroup.com > >Georgina Excellent! Thanks Georgina, this was bugging me too. Actually the "www" in the address you supplied will not resolve. The URL should be http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xfree-newbie&r=1&w=2 Cheers, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]startx problem
On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >(--) checkDevMem: using aperture driver /dev/xf86 >(--) Using wscons driver in pcvt compatibility mode (version 3.32) >(WW) xf86AcquireGART: AGPIOC_ACQUIRE failed (Inappropriate ioctl for device) >(WW) GARTInit: AGPIOC_INFO failed (Inappropriate ioctl for device) > >(II) LoadModule: "xie" >(WW) Warning, couldn't open module xie >(II) UnloadModule: "xie" >(EE) Failed to load module "xie" (module does not exist, 0) >(II) LoadModule: "pex5" >(WW) Warning, couldn't open module pex5 >(II) UnloadModule: "pex5" >(EE) Failed to load module "pex5" (module does not exist, 0) In your XF86Config, try commenting out the lines that say `Load "xie"' and 'Load "pex5"' in the `Section "Modules"'. But I don't think this is the real problem. It'll just clear up the log a little. >(II) LoadModule: "dri" >(WW) Warning, couldn't open module dri >(II) UnloadModule: "dri" >(EE) Failed to load module "dri" (module does not exist, 0) I would guess that you also have a `Load "dri"' module in that section too? Your card is not supported by XFree86-4.2.1 http://www.xfree86.org/current/Status24.html#24 and you need to revert to 3.3.6. To find out if your card is one of those listed on the URL you can use "lspci -vv" and search for the VGA line reported in that output. >(==) VGA(0): videoRam: 256 kBytes. This says that you don't have much video memory at all. You will probably be only able to run at very low resolutions and colordepths. >(II) VGA(0): Not using default mode "640x350" (insufficient memory for mode) >(II) VGA(0): Not using default mode "800x512" (insufficient memory for mode) Which is born out by all the snipped lines above. To get rid of those warnings you need to look for the section titled "monitor" and remove all the modelines that were listed above. >(II) VGA(0): Not using mode "640x480" (no mode of this name) >(--) VGA(0): Virtual size is 320x240 (pitch 320) >(**) VGA(0): Default mode "320x240": 12.6 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.1 Hz (D) >(II) VGA(0): Modeline "320x240" 12.59 320 328 376 400 240 245 246 262 >doublescan -hsync -vsync > >Fatal server error: >AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0 > > >Running this on a box with 64 MB of RAM, 188MHZ Cyrix processor, Oak >Technology Graphics card (no idea what model) running OpenBSD 3.2 with >XFree86 4.2.1. Try reverting to 3.3.6. You may be able to run at 8bpp with some low res like 320x240. Personally I'd use the box as CLI only or else get a new video card. Good luck, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]what linux distro for LPI?
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Marcus Miller @ Mobile Fun wrote: >I have been using Linux at work for about a year now and have decided >it is time to improve my knowledge. I am about to start studying the >LPI qualification and need to get myself a Linux box to work on at home. >I have decided to download redhat Linux 7.3 can anyone tell me any reason >why this would not be a good idea or if there is a more suitable distro? This mailing list is not for general-linux help. It is dedicated to solving installation and administration problems for XFree86 for any OS. You will get more help if you ask on one of the lists specific to your problem. Any of the current Linux distributions will be sufficient for your needs: Mandrake, Red Hat, Debian, Slackware, SuSE are all very mainstream and well-supported. There are many, many other excellent distributions some with advantages for particular situations, but seeing as you're learning you're better joining a community with lots of members. Best wishes, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Speed bump with XF86Config
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Ed Suchocki wrote: > >I've been trying to modify my graphic resolution for >my monitor but I have been having some difficulty. I'm >new to Xfree86 so maybe this question is trivial. I'm >trying to set up a non standard video mode but I can't >even seem to get a basic setup that works. > >First, I'm using Xfree86 4.2.0 under mandrake >2.4.18-1. >I tried the configuration utilities and followed all >the steps. The config utils tell me that a new >XF86Config file was made. Did you try DrakX or XFdrake? > >I'm not sure what config file Xfree86 is looking for. >Should the configuration parameters be in XF86Config >or XF86Config-4? > >When I try to run the utility xf86cfg (graphical setup >utility)my mouse will not work (but it does work in >the line mode). The message states to use the numpad >for moving and using the cursor. Problem is that the >cursor moves but no zones can be selected (click >double click etc). > >Next, If I run the config utility X -configure, I get >a message that says I should run XFree86 -xf86config >/root/XF86Config.new > >When I run this command I get a X window displayed. >The mouse cursor does not move, CTRL ALT (num) + / - >do not work either. Ctrl Alt Backspace works fine. > The file /root/XF86Config.new is XF86's best attempt to generate a a config file for you. Running it in that manner allows you to test how well it works. It seems that apart from the issues you mentioned it works very nicely. You can use the texteditor of your choice (pico is nice for beginners, vi/emacs are worth learning but take time) to edit the file. If you search through it for the line containing 'Option "DontZoom" on' and change the "on" or "1" to "off" or "0" then you should be able to use CTRL-ALT-+/- to change resoultions on the fly. The mouse configuration will be specified in the 'Section "InputDevices" '. Make sure that you change the 'Option "Protocol" x' line to one that matches your mouse and also that the 'Option "Device" /dev/x' line is correct. (What mouse do you have?) >So my first question is "What configuration Utility >Should I use? My second question: If I edit the config There are distro-specific X-config tools and XFree86-supplied X-config tools. The latest XFree86-supplied tool is Mandrake supplies tools like HardDrake and DrakConf which you can use to change your mouse and video setup. I don't remember that much about Mandrake as I installed it once and didn't run it for very long. http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/doc/90/en/Starter.html/mousedrake.html http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/doc/90/en/Starter.html/xfdrake.html XFree86's latest tool (and there are several older ones) is xf86cfg. It's pretty good. You should check out this link http://www.xfree86.org/~anderson/ConfiguringX/siframes.htm There's a lot of good documenation at XFree86's own pages (thanks to Georgina Economou for updating and adding so much useful stuff): http://www.xfree86.org/support.html >file manually, what file should I make the chagnes to >(XF86Config or XF86Config-4 in /etc/X11) XFree86 searches for configuration files in this order (actually I snipped the list short, you can see the full thing by "man XF86Config"): /etc/X11/ (commandline is any simple path, ie config/latest but not ../../someotherplace) /usr/X11R6/etc/X11/ /etc/X11/$XF86CONFIG /usr/X11R6/etc/X11/$XF86CONFIG /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config So, if you have an /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 it will be used even if there is also an /etc/X11/XF86COnfig. My understanding (which may well be wrong) is that the current preferred XFree86 way is to use /etc/X11/XF86COnfig. Your mileage and distribution may vary ( I use Red Hat and that's what they do with 8.0, the latest release). > >When I run X -probeonly a log file is built and the >data states it is using the XF86Config-4 file. When I >examine the log file it shows several graphic modes >that are not being used Prefixed by (II) I810(0). I'm >trying to figure where these graphics modes are >attempted to beloaded. It'll be in the sections titled "Modeline" if it's a config file for XFree86 4.2.0. > >My real purpose for modifying the config file is that >I have a project that requires the video mode to run >in 400x256x16bpp @ 15.750 Hz (horiz) and 50 - 60Hz >vert (using a I815 chipset). I think that you set the Horizontal and Vertical refresh capabilities of the monitor in "Section Monitor" with the lines "HorizSync and VertRefresh" then you could use "Section Screen" and "SubSection Display" with the lines Depth 16 and Modes 400x256. (I've realized as I'm writing that I should just append this to the bottom. Warning: the appended file has not been tested, it's just a best guess.) > >I looked at several sites for some detaile dinfo >regarding the config files but all I find is some >information that appears to be out of date (ove
Re: [Newbie]Two trivial problems
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, JS Bangs wrote: >First, I accidentally messed up a line in my XFree86-Config file, causing >my screen to display beautiful swirly lines and scrolling bars instead of >anything else. Since I have a graphical logon, I can't even get to the >console to change this back. How can I force X to quit and return to the >regular command line? Ideally, I'd like this to happen before I even Ctrl+Alt+Backspace should drop you into the console. >login (although I can muddle my way past the logon screen if I must). >Alternately, can I prevent X from booting during startup (under a Debian >system)? Edit the /etc/inittab file. There should be a line with id:5:initdefault: change the 5 to a 3 and then your system will boot to the console and you'll use "startx" to start an X session > >Second, how can I change the font size that X uses to display things like >the logon screen or a file browser? Regardless of which window manager I >use (Enlightenment is my default), I get rediculously large fonts and >button sizes in most windows. I think this is an X thing, because the >fonts that are obviously controlled by Enlightenment (like the titlebars >and pop-up menus) appear in reasonable dimensions. You can set the fonts used by individual application by editing the file $HOME/.Xresources (where $HOME stands for /your/absolue/home/path). See "man X" and look for the section titled "RESOURCES". Towards the bottom of this section there's an example file that you could play with. HTH, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]X on compaq presario 1600 xl
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Don Fong wrote: >like a lot of other people here, i'm trying to >get X to work on my laptop. in my case, i've >got a compaq presario 1600 xl. i installed >RH 5 (old, i know) from a CD. i went thru the >xf86config process, but i don't know the answers >to some of the questions it asked. in the end, >when i tried to run X, i got error messages >saying : >``... >(--) SVGA: PCI: Trident Unknown chipset (0x0520) rev 106, Memory @ 0xf500, >0xf410 This line alone doesn't bode well. At the very least you should get a more recent XFree86. If you are stuck installing from CD because of bandwidth issues then perhaps the best thing would be to get one of the cheapo copies of RedHat from one of the commercial resellers? At any rate, all the people with laptop problems should have a look at this great site: http://www.linux-laptop.net I see that there's a succssful install in the Compaq section for a machine that sounds like yours (some extra letters at the end). There are XF86Config files and details available there. Any reason not to upgrade the whole distro or even the XFree86? HTH, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]X on compaq presario 1600 xl
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Don Fong wrote: > Oisin C. Feeley wrote: >>This line alone doesn't bode well. At the very least you should get a >>more recent XFree86. If you are stuck installing from CD because of >>bandwidth issues then perhaps the best thing would be to get one of the >>cheapo copies of RedHat from one of the commercial resellers? > >thanks for your answer! > You're welcome. >i'm installing from a CD because i don't have the network >card working yet. the original install apparently didn't >enable pcmcia support. perhaps a better approach would >be to tackle the pcmcia and networking problem first? >i'm open to suggestions. Well, that'd be off topic for this list. If you check out the URL I posted you'll find plenty of info. Really though I'd get a c. US$10 CD set from someone like CheapBytes.com. There'll be more recent drivers for your PCMCIA stuff too. Very possibly your equipment didn't exist when Red Hat 5.0 came out and thus there won't be drivers on your CDs. > >also, since i don't have X working yet, i'm stuck with >the stupid caps lock layout. is there any way to remap >the keyboard outside of X? > Again, that'd be "outside of X" and hence outside of this list's purview. However "man loadkeys" and "man keymaps" will get you what you want. HTH, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]Two trivial problems
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, C. Brewer wrote: >Boy oh boy!! I'd like to make some slight adjustments to Oisin's >suggestions. While technically accurate, just a little off enough to >confuse. > Thanks for checking up on me C. ! Your answer is much better. Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]What Happen?
On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Eric Sprague wrote: >Try xf86cfg - that's the designated successor to He says he has and it "doesn't work". >> Could Someone tell me what happen to XF86Setup? It >> used to work so well in 3.3.3.1. I am new to 4.0.2 >> and xf86cfg doesnt work for me. I had to genarate >> the configure file with XFree86 -configure switch. >> I used to love the gui with XF86Setup. How does it "not work" for you? What are the errors? Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]It ain't working......
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Chuck Gelm wrote: > >MuHammed Lonon wrote: >> >> Hello, I have download a multitude of crap through fink and installed > ^ >> it but nothing works. How do I get the programs to actually run??? > ^^ > > huh? > I'll second that "huh?"! This list is not for "how to get my OS to work". It's for installing and configuring XFree86. Please MuHammed, find an appropriate list/newsgroup/webforum for OS X and ask the question there. You might want to specify (to them) exactly how you're having trouble with crap. When you're posting to technical lists it helps to get your shit together. Y'know? Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
Re: [Newbie]New to XFree86
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Mr. J. Sweet wrote: >Hello All. I have decided to make the change from Windows to FreeBSD. I >am still getting use to the CLI and would like a GUI. I have done the >'xf86cfg' and entered my hardware as follows: Video - S3 ProSavage >KM133 is returned by 'scanpci' - (I selected the prosavage from >'xf86cfg'- 16MB/16384KB) Monitor - KDS Visual Sensation(17") 30-72kHz >Hor and 50-160 Vert Keyboard - Standard 104 US Mouse - /dev/sysmouse > >The issue... when I key in 'startx' or 'XFree86 -xf86config >"/etc/X11/XF86Config"' the X server starts, my screen changes res to >what looks like 1024x786(based on the courser size) and freezes. At no >time is a proper image displayed. The colors are all there it looks to >be 16 bit color. The mouse courser is the only item that shows up OK. >At this point everything freezes if I used "startx". No the mouse still >works if I used "XFree86" but as with startx all is frozen. I have >to power off the computer to proceed. An error message is displayed >before the GUI comes up but I can't read that fast! > >The OS is FreeBSD 4.7 and the X version is 4.20. I don't know what >other info might be of value...I can provide any info you need to >assist me. > >So and feed back would be greatly appreciated! 1. Get the latest 1.1.26t drivers from here: http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html These will be tarred and gzipped (.tgz). Uncompress and untar them in a temporary-work directory ( tar -xzvf filename.tgz) and you will see a file called savage_drv.o Back up your old savage_drv.o (which is probably in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ but check with some FreeBSD gurus if you can't find it there). Copy or move the new savage_drv.o to where the old one was. Make sure that the permissions are the same ("ls -l" to display the permissions "chmod XYZ savage_drv.o" to change them, see "man chmod" for more info). The further information that you can provide to the list will come from whereever FreeBSD stores its X error logs (/var/log/XFree86.0.log ?). If you examine this log for errors it's usually very informative. HTH, Oisin Feeley ___ Newbie mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie