Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 08:53 am, Anuerin G. Diaz wrote: Many good valid points snipped here 2) Elitist? Being elitist does not necessarily mean a negative trait, its just most people associate elitism with snobbishness and arrogance. I dont think this list is elitist (negatively meant as you may have intended) as I found this as one of the most helpful list that I ever registered in. Somebody even said that this is almost as good as commercial technical support (although that doesnt mean squat as techsupp is legendary for 'unsupportiveness' ;-). Experienced users may have an 'elitist' air in hem but that comes with the part of being experienced. For me elitist means special and the mere fact that these people have an idea on how to solve my problems mean they are more special than me (im just an ordinary guy but i am special in my own way ;-). and here again Mr. Diaz, I appreciate your thoughtful response, and I agree this is for the most part a very helpful list. I was simply trying to make the point that some people on this list are so anxious for an oppertunity to bash windows that they overlook the pertinent questions of newbies. I realize that they are not bashing the person, just windows, but my point is, what help is that to the newbie with a question they need an answer for? In the string of posts I was referring to, of the dozen or so replies to the original post, only Shane offered any hint of a solution. I'm just saying that this can be intimidating, especially for someone struggling with the nuances of an unfamiliar OS. I myself am a rank newbie, and I believe Linux to be the best OS out there, and I hope to eventually ditch MS products entirely. Perhaps I reacted a bit strongly, I just found some of the responses a little unneccessary. My response was triggered largely by my concern that some potential Linux converts will be alienated by this negitivism, and resign themselves to a life under MS. Again, thanks for an intelligent and well taken response. :~) Flotcho Registered Linux user # 224563 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer
On Tuesday 27 November 2001 11:54 am, shane wrote: not again... first, you can run it by setting up wine. that is all i know, i don't use it or wine, but there it is, second.. you can use konqueror, netscape, mozilla, opera, galleon, hell use lynx even, why use the biggest POS ever built??? or as a web page i once saw said: Where do you want to go today? Straight to hell, apparently. Well, out of all the replies in this thread that I saw, here is one that at least offers a possible solution to the original, simple, question. I hate to get vocal here, but many people on this list continually piss me off with their elitist attitude. They are so set and focused on trashing MS (which no doubt deserves trashing) that they completely ignore plain, simple, and valid questions from subscribers of this list. Friends, THIS IS A NEWBIE LIST. Lighten up. Try to help instead of trashing everyone who mentions dual booting. If you want to further the Linux and open source cause, then focus on that instead of dirty backdoor politics. MS sux, but it aint helping any of us to spend days discussing that. peace -- Flotcho Registered Linux user # 224563 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
