Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Foiled again!

[Kurt Nolte]

Well, I managed to get a couple things accomplished, despite less than
stellar luck on the retail end of things.

Lessons Learned, Thursday Edition:
1) Don't trust "live inventory" for stores, even major ones. Call to ask.
The 17mm allen bit that was listed as "in stock" at a local FLAPS was, in
fact, in stock... at a warehouse some three hours away. It will be here
Friday morning, and I will pick it up before classes.

2) Chain lube: it's not just for chains anymore. I was fighting to get the
grips off my old handlebars. On a whim, I pried up a bit of it with the
screwdriver, shot a brief squirt of chain lube under there, and the grip
practically slid off on its own! Wash with soap and water, and voila, fin.

3) Parts monkeys wanna sell you the expensive stuff. EOS. Sorry dude, I'm
not impressed by flash, blingin chrome. Certainly not impressed enough to
give you $45 for a pair of grips.

4) Flat black looks /good/ on a set of stock pipes. Oh yeah. That's just
/sexy/. It'll look even sexier when the other half of the pipes are painted;
I ran out of the right high temp paint!

5) and not related in the slightest to the 'hawk, is thus: Before ordering
parts on a pre-loved car, check to make sure that your major bits are
appropriate for the chassis number. Tim and I ordered front struts for the
Super-B based on the chassis number (A "late '73"). I went to reassemble the
front strut assemblies, only to discover that I was trying to put late strut
cartridges into early housings. FML. Luckily I'm still a day inside the
30-day guarantee, so the exchange should be simple.

Bwha.


Oh, and she may be affectionately referred to henceforth as "Madam Bruise."
I'm certainly ending up with enough of them because of her (new ones on my
ankle, dropped tools while disassembling the handlebars... ratchets hurt
when dropped from 4'!) and she's a black and blue colour scheme already...

-Kurt

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[Nighthawk Lovers] What I've been working on...

[James O'Gorman]

First off, thanks for not flaming me for the really poor video last time 
around. Here is a *much* better quality video of the 4-wheeled motorcycle i've 
been working on lately. I'm the one running into the car right at the start of 
the video.

http://www.youtube.com/user/aspork42#p/a/u/0/hehWG9imsvY

Enjoy!

- James O'Gorman

(Still itching to get the real 2-wheeled motorcycle out of storage...)

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Gas Tank Rust Removal: Metal Rescue?

[surfswab]

Me too.  Sneakin' up on it anyway.

Last night of "monk" week where 12-hour shifts don't leave time for
much besides go-home-go-to-bed-get-up-go-to-work.   But then there's
"decadent" week -- 7 days/nights off to do whatever I damn well
please.

I prefer decadent week.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: First Accident with my Nighthawk.

[Kurt Nolte]

See, there's what I need. I need a girlfriend with more riding experience
than I. She could save me anytime. :D

OH. Speaking of attractive women and motorcycles, one of my neighbors came
by while I was working on the bike last time around (when it was almost
completely apart). We talked for about half an hour about Nighthawks in
particular; she's thinking about getting one herself, and wanted to know
which one I had and what I thought of it. I recommended it quite neatly, and
added that I've found them really easy to work on (because I have) and told
her if she got one, at least she knew who to come talk to for maintenance
and such.

Too bad she's married. :(

Anywho.

Glad nobody's been seriously injured! I've had instances of "now when in the
name of all that's hellish did I do /that/?" with respect to injuries
before, though usually they didn't involve ripping nails off.

-Kurt

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Druk  wrote:

> I had just gotten my license that month, and my girlfriend and I were
> out for a ride (I on a '91 750, she on an '86 650). We came out of a
> side street onto a major road, thankfully with light traffic, and I
> just was too hesitant, too slow, and no proper technique for the slow
> speed. I went downon the right side, broke my cool sons if anarchy
> looking windshield, bent the foot brake. The gf, who had more
> experience, was behind me and had already committed to going when I
> just dropped in front of her. She swerved around me, pulled her bike
> over, waved traffic around me, then helped me get the bike up off my
> trapped, heavily armored, motorcycle-booted foot.
> Only minor damage to the bike, but my pride and manhood took a bit of
> a beating.
>
>

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: First Accident with my Nighthawk.

[Druk]

I had just gotten my license that month, and my girlfriend and I were
out for a ride (I on a '91 750, she on an '86 650). We came out of a
side street onto a major road, thankfully with light traffic, and I
just was too hesitant, too slow, and no proper technique for the slow
speed. I went downon the right side, broke my cool sons if anarchy
looking windshield, bent the foot brake. The gf, who had more
experience, was behind me and had already committed to going when I
just dropped in front of her. She swerved around me, pulled her bike
over, waved traffic around me, then helped me get the bike up off my
trapped, heavily armored, motorcycle-booted foot.
Only minor damage to the bike, but my pride and manhood took a bit of
a beating.

On Apr 12, 2:06 am, The Florida Mt Biker 
wrote:
> It finally happen...my First accident with my motorcycle. Last night getting
> bike out of the garage. The kickstand was down, because I only was going
> move it to the driveway. The kickstand hit my big toe. It felt like a just
> stumbed it.
>
> About 12:30 at work, I smelled something from shoe. I took my shoe off. Half
> my sock was covered in bright red blood. Excepting the worst, I took my sock
> off. I only pulled my big toe nail have way. Just real bloody. It hurts. But
> it will heal in a month. Not bad for my first motocycle accident with this
> bike. LOL

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] changing cam chain

[Allen Thomas]

Hi Fabio, why does he think you need to change the cam chain? Are there severe 
rattling noises coming from the motor? Usually people only know they are bad 
when they break. 5Km is only like 2 miles and a bad cam chain at that 
low mileage is unheard of. Besides even if there is chain noise there should be 
a tensioner you could adjust.
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Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] changing cam chain

hi, i'm fabio . i have a honda cb450sc (1985) i need help because my
mechanic say that i have to change the cam chain and he want to do
this 500€ (720$). do you think it's a right request for this work? My
hawk have 5km. thank you

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: changing cam chain

[Kyle Munz]

I had a garage tell me once that my carburetor was leaking oil when I
had only taken the car in for an inspection, which in TX doesn't
require popping the hood. One, if the carb is leaking oil I've got
more problems than that garage could handle, and two, that car was
fuel injected.

On Thursday, April 14, 2011, Joey Kelley  wrote:
> If I might offer another point of view - and it depends entirely on
> your relationship with that mechanic - is it possible that he is
> suggesting a repair that, although might be prudent, might even be
> necessary if the bike were to go another 100,000 miles, isn't really
> worth it for the value of the bike.
>         I once had a garage tell me that during a normal oil change
> the entire top half of my engine would need to be rebuilt. First of
> all, it didn't - second of all - when they called me into the bay to
> show me the 'problem' they referred to it as a coolant leak (this was
> a Pontiac BTW) however where they were pointing was most certainly the
> intake manifold. Third - if they had done the repair - estimated at
> $5000 US - the car would still have been worth $4000.
>         I didn't go back there.
>         Just a thought!
>        -Joey
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Kurt Nolte  wrote:
>> What Surf said. If you plan to keep the bike, then it's money very well
>> spent (assuming you can trust this mechanic's quality and attention to
>> detail).
>>
>> -Kurt
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:40 PM, surfswab  wrote:
>>>
>>> Fabio,
>>>
>>> Replacing the cam chain is fairly complex, labor intensive job
>>> requiring "splitting the cases" (dismantling the lower part of the
>>> motor) and the labor charge is probably worth that amount of money if
>>> the mechanic is trustworthy and skillful.
>>>
>>> The question you need to ponder is whether it's practical to spend
>>> that kind of cash on a 26-year-old bike with 50,000 km.   If it's in
>>> good shape otherwise  and you plan to keep it a good while longer, it
>>> could be money well-spent.  It's doubtful you could find another
>>> serviceable bike for the same $720.
>>>
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starter for 84' CB650SC

[ewun]

Hey Jim -

Just wondering - I also live in the Bay Area (Peninsula - San Mateo)
and just acquired a 2002 750 NH (19,000 miles in good shape).  Would
you happen to have any good recommendations for local service/
maintenance shops/mechanics that are reputable and do a great job?  It
would be ideal to have some references for the work that's beyond my
(limited) abilities (even with a shop manual).  Thanks in advance.

Eric

On Apr 14, 9:08 am, Jim  wrote:
> Hello my name is Jim and I have been lurking here for a couple of
> weeks.
> I have had some problems with my Harley generator and the cost is way
> too much to
> replace, so when I have a problem I look for a shop that rebuilds
> starters and generators
> alternators too. usually not too bad a price around 100.00 here in
> Silicon Valley in California
> since gas is at 4.39 a gallon.
>
> Jim
> 1992 NH
> 1980 XS850 spec
> 1973 RD5
> 1973 HD Sportster
>
> On Apr 14, 4:00 am, "Gene Henry"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Anyone got a starter for a reasonable price for a 84' CB650SC?
>
> > I thought I had a weak battery, but jumped it directly to my car battery 
> > and it still cranks slowly, with intermittent slows/almost stalls.
> > Going to tear it down, but just in case I need one..
>
> > Gene Henry

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: changing cam chain

[Joey Kelley]

If I might offer another point of view - and it depends entirely on
your relationship with that mechanic - is it possible that he is
suggesting a repair that, although might be prudent, might even be
necessary if the bike were to go another 100,000 miles, isn't really
worth it for the value of the bike.
I once had a garage tell me that during a normal oil change
the entire top half of my engine would need to be rebuilt. First of
all, it didn't - second of all - when they called me into the bay to
show me the 'problem' they referred to it as a coolant leak (this was
a Pontiac BTW) however where they were pointing was most certainly the
intake manifold. Third - if they had done the repair - estimated at
$5000 US - the car would still have been worth $4000.
I didn't go back there.
Just a thought!
   -Joey

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Kurt Nolte  wrote:
> What Surf said. If you plan to keep the bike, then it's money very well
> spent (assuming you can trust this mechanic's quality and attention to
> detail).
>
> -Kurt
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:40 PM, surfswab  wrote:
>>
>> Fabio,
>>
>> Replacing the cam chain is fairly complex, labor intensive job
>> requiring "splitting the cases" (dismantling the lower part of the
>> motor) and the labor charge is probably worth that amount of money if
>> the mechanic is trustworthy and skillful.
>>
>> The question you need to ponder is whether it's practical to spend
>> that kind of cash on a 26-year-old bike with 50,000 km.   If it's in
>> good shape otherwise  and you plan to keep it a good while longer, it
>> could be money well-spent.  It's doubtful you could find another
>> serviceable bike for the same $720.
>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 CB550 17,850 miles

[Joey Kelley]

Scott,
I have safely used a whole 16 oz can of SeaFoam in my 3.2
Gallon tanked NH - that having been said - it did idle weird - run
rough etc. I would suggest about a half a can to a tank - thats twice
the recommended 'maintenance' dosage on the can.
-Joey

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Scott McKinley  wrote:
> So a shop order would be adjust the carbs: 1) set needles, and 2) sync? On
> my tank of about 3.2 gallons (per manual), how much SeaFoam would you use?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Thomas
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 5:10 AM
> To: Nightwawk Lovers
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 CB550 17,850 miles
>
>
>
> A carb sync can never hurt the bike, and might just make it run better.
> However I'm going to stick with my thoughts that you're carbs are a bit
> gummed up. I would run two tanks of seafoam treated gas through it. Then
> adjust the carb needles, then sync them.
>
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> 
>
> From: "Scott McKinley" 
>
> Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 23:01:32 -0700
>
> To: 
>
> ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 CB550 17,850 miles
>
>
>
> When the measurements were taken the bike had been turned off for about 30
> seconds, on kick stand, and readings taken with Ryobi laser temp gun. I have
> previously taken readings on center stand and warmed up at idle. The same
> differential exists then. Thanks to those providing responses.
>
>
>
> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Thomas
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 4:44 PM
> To: Nightwawk Lovers
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 CB550 17,850 miles
>
>
>
> True that might make the right hand side run leaner from a float level
> difference.
>
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> 
>
> From: Kyle Munz 
>
> Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:51:24 -0500
>
> To: 
>
> ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 CB550 17,850 miles
>
>
>
> Definitely the 4cyls one coil fires 1 and 4 and the other fires 2 and 3. Is
> the bike on the sidestand while the measurements are being taken?
>
> -Kyle
>
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Joey Kelley  wrote:
>
> Allen,
>       You could be right - thats why I asked :-)
>       (The 450 was easy - two cylinders, two coils)
>        Anybody know that for certain?
>       -Joey
>
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Allen Thomas  wrote:
>> Pretty sure one coil drives cylinders 1&4 and the other 2&3.
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Joey Kelley 
>> Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:24:27
>> To: 
>> Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 CB550 17,850 miles
>>
>> Scott,
>>       I'm wondering if it might be ignition related - just a guess
>> here but if it has a two coil ignition system (I assume it does) there
>> is the potential to have one coil going bad, affecting two cylinders,
>> but not the other two.
>>       I wouldn't think you'd have a 20 degree difference between the
>> exhaust pipes under normal circumstances.
>>       Full disclosure - I don't have a 4 cylinder NH - anyone want to
>> confirm / deny my thinking here?
>>       -Joey
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Scott McKinley 
>> wrote:
>>> The exhaust pipe temperatures read when sitting on the bike:
>>>
>>> L to Right:
>>>
>>> 149
>>>
>>> 147
>>>
>>> 129
>>>
>>> 121
>>>
>>> Power seems a little low at less than 3000 rpm, but above doesn’t miss
>>> and
>>> has plenty of power. Carburetors worked about 100 miles ago, use Seafoam
>>> over winter and ride about every two weeks for about an hour. Starts easy
>>> and idles without a problem once warmed up. Do I need to sync carbs or ?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any advise,
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 CB550 17,850 miles

[Scott McKinley]

So a shop order would be adjust the carbs: 1) set needles, and 2) sync? On
my tank of about 3.2 gallons (per manual), how much SeaFoam would you use?

Thanks,

Scott

 

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[mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 5:10 AM
To: Nightwawk Lovers
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 CB550 17,850 miles

 

A carb sync can never hurt the bike, and might just make it run better.
However I'm going to stick with my thoughts that you're carbs are a bit
gummed up. I would run two tanks of seafoam treated gas through it. Then
adjust the carb needles, then sync them.

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

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From: "Scott McKinley"  

Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com 

Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 23:01:32 -0700

To: 

ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 CB550 17,850 miles

 

When the measurements were taken the bike had been turned off for about 30
seconds, on kick stand, and readings taken with Ryobi laser temp gun. I have
previously taken readings on center stand and warmed up at idle. The same
differential exists then. Thanks to those providing responses.  

 

From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 4:44 PM
To: Nightwawk Lovers
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 CB550 17,850 miles

 

True that might make the right hand side run leaner from a float level
difference.

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

  _  

From: Kyle Munz  

Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com 

Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:51:24 -0500

To: 

ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 CB550 17,850 miles

 

Definitely the 4cyls one coil fires 1 and 4 and the other fires 2 and 3. Is
the bike on the sidestand while the measurements are being taken?

-Kyle 

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Joey Kelley  wrote:

Allen,
  You could be right - thats why I asked :-)
  (The 450 was easy - two cylinders, two coils)
   Anybody know that for certain?
  -Joey


On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Allen Thomas  wrote:
> Pretty sure one coil drives cylinders 1&4 and the other 2&3.
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joey Kelley 
> Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:24:27
> To: 
> Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 CB550 17,850 miles
>
> Scott,
>   I'm wondering if it might be ignition related - just a guess
> here but if it has a two coil ignition system (I assume it does) there
> is the potential to have one coil going bad, affecting two cylinders,
> but not the other two.
>   I wouldn't think you'd have a 20 degree difference between the
> exhaust pipes under normal circumstances.
>   Full disclosure - I don't have a 4 cylinder NH - anyone want to
> confirm / deny my thinking here?
>   -Joey
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Scott McKinley 
wrote:
>> The exhaust pipe temperatures read when sitting on the bike:
>>
>> L to Right:
>>
>> 149
>>
>> 147
>>
>> 129
>>
>> 121
>>
>> Power seems a little low at less than 3000 rpm, but above doesn't miss
and
>> has plenty of power. Carburetors worked about 100 miles ago, use Seafoam
>> over winter and ride about every two weeks for about an hour. Starts easy
>> and idles without a problem once warmed up. Do I need to sync carbs or ?
>>
>> Thanks for any advise,
>>
>> Scott
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983 CB550 17,850 miles

[Scott McKinley]

I have taken two teaspoons of SeaFoam so I am cleaned out. I can't get the
same results when mixed in the fuel tank? Life is good with SeaFoam! The
problem is it cost more that whiskey. I may go the sync route first. What
can I expect for cost?

Scott

 

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[mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Nolte
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 10:05 AM
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983 CB550 17,850 miles

 

With a sudden onset of the problem I'm inclined to think dirt now, too. See
if an additive/cleaner will solve the problem, if not you might need to take
more aggressive steps and drop the bowls to physically clean them out.
You'll undoubtedly need clean gaskets if you go that route, however.

-Kurt

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Scott McKinley 
wrote:

Allegedly by mechanic who overhauled carbs. He represented himself as
experienced mechanic. Bike ran great for a few months then noticed low end
loss of power. Since the problem is with the two right carbs, you may have a
point with mechanic setting sync correctly.


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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:48 PM
To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983 CB550 17,850 miles

Have the carbs been synched?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: changing cam chain

[Kurt Nolte]

What Surf said. If you plan to keep the bike, then it's money very well
spent (assuming you can trust this mechanic's quality and attention to
detail).

-Kurt

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:40 PM, surfswab  wrote:

> Fabio,
>
> Replacing the cam chain is fairly complex, labor intensive job
> requiring "splitting the cases" (dismantling the lower part of the
> motor) and the labor charge is probably worth that amount of money if
> the mechanic is trustworthy and skillful.
>
> The question you need to ponder is whether it's practical to spend
> that kind of cash on a 26-year-old bike with 50,000 km.   If it's in
> good shape otherwise  and you plan to keep it a good while longer, it
> could be money well-spent.  It's doubtful you could find another
> serviceable bike for the same $720.
>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Gas Tank Rust Removal: Metal Rescue?

[Kurt Nolte]

3AM = At Work

At least it does for me. :D

-Kurt

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM, greenzer...@gmail.com <
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> like most of us dont reply while were at work... Or 3 am :)
>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Gas Tank Rust Removal: Metal Rescue?

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

like most of us dont reply while were at work... Or 3 am :)
   
-Original Message-
Date: Thursday, April 14, 2011 5:07:07 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
From: "Kyle Munz" 
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Gas Tank Rust Removal: Metal Rescue?

There's a true nighthawk lover. Helping the group out while he's doubling
down at the craps table. ;)

-Kyle


On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:03 PM, MOPARJOE  wrote:

> I believe they have a web site, and it can be ordered on-line. I buy
> mine when I see it at Automotive swap meets,a nd pick up a few gallons
> at a time.
>
> I would look on the bottle/jug for web info, but I'm in Las Vegas on
> Vacation right now.Let me know if you find info, and if not, I'll
> get it for you next week.  Joe
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 14, 6:47 am, Graham Rogers  wrote:
> > I'll keep looking for it.  NAPA doesn't have it around here.
> >
> > On Apr 14, 2011, at 4:10 AM, MOPARJOE wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > It's very similar to water (looks and consistency), and comes in a one
> > > gallon jug. You just pour it into a pan or bucket (I use an empty
> > > yellow cat litter pale, that has a lid for it, so it doesn't evaporate
> > > while sitting), and then place 

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Gas Tank Rust Removal: Metal Rescue?

[Kyle Munz]

There's a true nighthawk lover. Helping the group out while he's doubling
down at the craps table. ;)

-Kyle


On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:03 PM, MOPARJOE  wrote:

> I believe they have a web site, and it can be ordered on-line. I buy
> mine when I see it at Automotive swap meets,a nd pick up a few gallons
> at a time.
>
> I would look on the bottle/jug for web info, but I'm in Las Vegas on
> Vacation right now.Let me know if you find info, and if not, I'll
> get it for you next week.  Joe
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 14, 6:47 am, Graham Rogers  wrote:
> > I'll keep looking for it.  NAPA doesn't have it around here.
> >
> > On Apr 14, 2011, at 4:10 AM, MOPARJOE wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > It's very similar to water (looks and consistency), and comes in a one
> > > gallon jug. You just pour it into a pan or bucket (I use an empty
> > > yellow cat litter pale, that has a lid for it, so it doesn't evaporate
> > > while sitting), and then place your rusted part into the liquid. If
> > > you were using it on a gas tank (I haven't done this yet, but am going
> > > to in the near future), you would pour it directly into the (sealed)
> > > tank, and just let it sit in there for a day or two. The liquid
> > > discolors as more rust is disolved into it, but seems to work just the
> > > same (or so it seems). This stuff is not suppose to hurt paint in any
> > > way (so the sales guy says, and shows), but I haven't tested that part
> > > of their claim on my parts yet.
> >
> > > Hope this helps! Joe
> >
> > > On Apr 13, 7:01 pm, Graham Rogers  wrote:
> > >> Joe,  is Evapo Rust a liner or something like naval gel you paint on?
> >
> > >> On Apr 13, 2011, at 5:10 PM, MOPARJOE wrote:
> >
> > >>> I have used both, and they do "eat" the rust. I've recently used
> > >>> "Evapo-Rust" on four separate 700-S fuel sending units, all of which
> > >>> didn't work and were rusty (one was so rusty it had pieces of metal
> > >>> missing from parts of the shield).
> >
> > >>> 3 cleaned up in 24 hours, and rusty one was done in 2 days. ALL 4 of
> > >>> them are rust free, and work perfectly now!!
> >
> > >>> On Apr 12, 11:35 pm, surfswab  wrote:
> >  I've not heard of that particular brand, but I have heard of good
> >  experience removing light rust with Evapo-Rust, and it's
> >  available in
> >  most chain auto parts stores.  It's a one-step treatment also.
> >
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Gas Tank Rust Removal: Metal Rescue?

[MOPARJOE]

I believe they have a web site, and it can be ordered on-line. I buy
mine when I see it at Automotive swap meets,a nd pick up a few gallons
at a time.

I would look on the bottle/jug for web info, but I'm in Las Vegas on
Vacation right now.Let me know if you find info, and if not, I'll
get it for you next week.  Joe




On Apr 14, 6:47 am, Graham Rogers  wrote:
> I'll keep looking for it.  NAPA doesn't have it around here.
>
> On Apr 14, 2011, at 4:10 AM, MOPARJOE wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > It's very similar to water (looks and consistency), and comes in a one
> > gallon jug. You just pour it into a pan or bucket (I use an empty
> > yellow cat litter pale, that has a lid for it, so it doesn't evaporate
> > while sitting), and then place your rusted part into the liquid. If
> > you were using it on a gas tank (I haven't done this yet, but am going
> > to in the near future), you would pour it directly into the (sealed)
> > tank, and just let it sit in there for a day or two. The liquid
> > discolors as more rust is disolved into it, but seems to work just the
> > same (or so it seems). This stuff is not suppose to hurt paint in any
> > way (so the sales guy says, and shows), but I haven't tested that part
> > of their claim on my parts yet.
>
> > Hope this helps! Joe
>
> > On Apr 13, 7:01 pm, Graham Rogers  wrote:
> >> Joe,  is Evapo Rust a liner or something like naval gel you paint on?
>
> >> On Apr 13, 2011, at 5:10 PM, MOPARJOE wrote:
>
> >>> I have used both, and they do "eat" the rust. I've recently used
> >>> "Evapo-Rust" on four separate 700-S fuel sending units, all of which
> >>> didn't work and were rusty (one was so rusty it had pieces of metal
> >>> missing from parts of the shield).
>
> >>> 3 cleaned up in 24 hours, and rusty one was done in 2 days. ALL 4 of
> >>> them are rust free, and work perfectly now!!
>
> >>> On Apr 12, 11:35 pm, surfswab  wrote:
>  I've not heard of that particular brand, but I have heard of good
>  experience removing light rust with Evapo-Rust, and it's  
>  available in
>  most chain auto parts stores.  It's a one-step treatment also.
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: For Sale: Black 2000 750 Nighthawk

[surfswab]

Pretty bike.

Dunno if I'd spend $3500, but only the market will tell if it's worth
that.  On the other hand, I already have one, so what do I know.

Market prices here in the south range from $1500-$2500 from half-way
decent to pristine shape.  I've seen some advertised in the
neighborhood of $3000, but don't know if they actually sold for that
when all was said and done.




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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: changing cam chain

[surfswab]

Fabio,

Replacing the cam chain is fairly complex, labor intensive job
requiring "splitting the cases" (dismantling the lower part of the
motor) and the labor charge is probably worth that amount of money if
the mechanic is trustworthy and skillful.

The question you need to ponder is whether it's practical to spend
that kind of cash on a 26-year-old bike with 50,000 km.   If it's in
good shape otherwise  and you plan to keep it a good while longer, it
could be money well-spent.  It's doubtful you could find another
serviceable bike for the same $720.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] changing cam chain

[Stefano Ascari]

Ciao Fabio! Un altro italiano tra di noi!

As for your question probably someone else should answer as I have very
limited mechanical knowledge whatsoever...

Stefano

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[Nighthawk Lovers] changing cam chain

[fabiamino]

hi, i'm fabio . i have a honda cb450sc (1985) i need help because my
mechanic say that i have to change the cam chain and he want to do
this 500€ (720$). do you think it's a right request for this work? My
hawk have 5km. thank you

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] For Sale: Black 2000 750 Nighthawk

[Kurt Nolte]

Graham:

"Medina, Ohio" on the license plate surround... not that it really means
anything.

Kurt
who finally was able to look at the pictures on a full sized screen instead
of a phone, and liked what he saw even more.


but is also broke. :/

On Apr 14, 2011 12:55 PM, "Graham Rogers"  wrote:
>
> 300 miles from where - for everyone who is wondering.
>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] For Sale: Black 2000 750 Nighthawk

[Kurt Nolte]

Skip, that's a nice, nice bike. Of course I'm a sucker for that slick black
look.

300 miles from where, though?

Kurt

On Apr 14, 2011 12:55 PM, "Graham Rogers"  wrote:

300 miles from where - for everyone who is wondering.



On Apr 14, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Skip Fowler wrote:

> > I'm selling my Black 2000 Nighthawk 750 with 3000 miles. The reason is
> that I can no longer handle...
> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] For Sale: Black 2000 750 Nighthawk

[Graham Rogers]

300 miles from where - for everyone who is wondering.

On Apr 14, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Skip Fowler wrote:

I'm selling my Black 2000 Nighthawk 750 with 3000 miles. The reason  
is that I can no longer handle the weight of the bike. Riding is  
fine, it's just when I need to move the bike around that I have  
trouble. At age 65 the back, among other things, isn't what it used  
to be.


The bike is perfect in every detail. I put Metzeler radials on it,  
added a K&N filter, put in a new battery, added a center stand, did  
the muffler modification and changed to foam grips. Oil and filter  
are changed each spring (Mobil1 and Purolator PureONE filter).  
Washed, dried and chain is oiled after every ride. Seafoam added to  
each tankful.


I bought the bike with 1800 miles on it and have only put on 1200  
in two summers. I also have a small clamp-on windscreen that came  
with the bike. Additionally a Honda shop manual.


I love riding this bike. I've owned BMW's, Yamaha's, and Honda's  
and this by far has been the best bike I've owned. Great handling,  
comfort, and 45-50 mpg (it's $3.99 here for premium here). Stored  
in a heated garage. I've not been caught in the rain on the bike.


Looking for a good home for the bike. I can deliver it within 300  
miles. (delivery cost are negotiable)


Price: $3500. Firm.

 Thank You.

(I will be posting this to Craigslist and Cycletrader next week)

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starter for 84' CB650SC

[Jim]

Hello my name is Jim and I have been lurking here for a couple of
weeks.
I have had some problems with my Harley generator and the cost is way
too much to
replace, so when I have a problem I look for a shop that rebuilds
starters and generators
alternators too. usually not too bad a price around 100.00 here in
Silicon Valley in California
since gas is at 4.39 a gallon.

Jim
1992 NH
1980 XS850 spec
1973 RD5
1973 HD Sportster

On Apr 14, 4:00 am, "Gene Henry"  wrote:
> Anyone got a starter for a reasonable price for a 84' CB650SC?
>
> I thought I had a weak battery, but jumped it directly to my car battery and 
> it still cranks slowly, with intermittent slows/almost stalls.
> Going to tear it down, but just in case I need one..
>
> Gene Henry

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Well now I'm really annoyed (GS-1000 update)

[Joey Kelley]

Well I have taken the wussy way out - I've got an appointment with the
local Suzuki dealer next Tuesday to start a carb clean out and rebuild
if necessary.
I'm afraid I don't have the experience or facility to deal with carbs
- and I get very nervous about them.
When I get the bike back, (about a week - depending on parts) we'll
address the electrical issues and or replace points and such. (That I
can handle!)
-Joey

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 3:17 AM, surfswab  wrote:
> Had a 750 do that.  Petcock diaphragm was the culprit.
>
> Fix requires new plugs, or clean the old, new oil and filter, check
> the air filter for gas saturation and crankcase breather apparatus for
> raw gas.  Don't run it till then.
>
> Messy, but relatively easy.
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda Nighthawk S 750 1985 - $1500 (Petworth, N.W., D.C.)

[j...@jespecialties.com]

I would buy that one.

John

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: leaking carbs

[surfswab]

Let us know how that works out.  I hate working on carbs.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Starter for 84' CB650SC

[Gene Henry]

Anyone got a starter for a reasonable price for a 84' CB650SC?

I thought I had a weak battery, but jumped it directly to my car battery and it 
still cranks slowly, with intermittent slows/almost stalls.
Going to tear it down, but just in case I need one..

Gene Henry

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Gas Tank Rust Removal: Metal Rescue?

[Graham Rogers]

I'll keep looking for it.  NAPA doesn't have it around here.

On Apr 14, 2011, at 4:10 AM, MOPARJOE wrote:



It's very similar to water (looks and consistency), and comes in a one
gallon jug. You just pour it into a pan or bucket (I use an empty
yellow cat litter pale, that has a lid for it, so it doesn't evaporate
while sitting), and then place your rusted part into the liquid. If
you were using it on a gas tank (I haven't done this yet, but am going
to in the near future), you would pour it directly into the (sealed)
tank, and just let it sit in there for a day or two. The liquid
discolors as more rust is disolved into it, but seems to work just the
same (or so it seems). This stuff is not suppose to hurt paint in any
way (so the sales guy says, and shows), but I haven't tested that part
of their claim on my parts yet.

Hope this helps! Joe




On Apr 13, 7:01 pm, Graham Rogers  wrote:

Joe,  is Evapo Rust a liner or something like naval gel you paint on?

On Apr 13, 2011, at 5:10 PM, MOPARJOE wrote:




I have used both, and they do "eat" the rust. I've recently used
"Evapo-Rust" on four separate 700-S fuel sending units, all of which
didn't work and were rusty (one was so rusty it had pieces of metal
missing from parts of the shield).



3 cleaned up in 24 hours, and rusty one was done in 2 days. ALL 4 of
them are rust free, and work perfectly now!!



On Apr 12, 11:35 pm, surfswab  wrote:

I've not heard of that particular brand, but I have heard of good
experience removing light rust with Evapo-Rust, and it's  
available in

most chain auto parts stores.  It's a one-step treatment also.


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Gas Tank Rust Removal: Metal Rescue?

[MOPARJOE]

It's very similar to water (looks and consistency), and comes in a one
gallon jug. You just pour it into a pan or bucket (I use an empty
yellow cat litter pale, that has a lid for it, so it doesn't evaporate
while sitting), and then place your rusted part into the liquid. If
you were using it on a gas tank (I haven't done this yet, but am going
to in the near future), you would pour it directly into the (sealed)
tank, and just let it sit in there for a day or two. The liquid
discolors as more rust is disolved into it, but seems to work just the
same (or so it seems). This stuff is not suppose to hurt paint in any
way (so the sales guy says, and shows), but I haven't tested that part
of their claim on my parts yet.

Hope this helps! Joe




On Apr 13, 7:01 pm, Graham Rogers  wrote:
> Joe,  is Evapo Rust a liner or something like naval gel you paint on?
>
> On Apr 13, 2011, at 5:10 PM, MOPARJOE wrote:
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>
>
> > I have used both, and they do "eat" the rust. I've recently used
> > "Evapo-Rust" on four separate 700-S fuel sending units, all of which
> > didn't work and were rusty (one was so rusty it had pieces of metal
> > missing from parts of the shield).
>
> > 3 cleaned up in 24 hours, and rusty one was done in 2 days. ALL 4 of
> > them are rust free, and work perfectly now!!
>
> > On Apr 12, 11:35 pm, surfswab  wrote:
> >> I've not heard of that particular brand, but I have heard of good
> >> experience removing light rust with Evapo-Rust, and it's available in
> >> most chain auto parts stores.  It's a one-step treatment also.
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Foiled again!

[surfswab]

I hate when that happens.

Actually I don't.  I just use it as an excuse to go have a beer.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Well now I'm really annoyed (GS-1000 update)

[surfswab]

Had a 750 do that.  Petcock diaphragm was the culprit.

Fix requires new plugs, or clean the old, new oil and filter, check
the air filter for gas saturation and crankcase breather apparatus for
raw gas.  Don't run it till then.

Messy, but relatively easy.

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