Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I'm wondering if I bought the wrong oil
Thanks Cecil! I'm confident that this will go well. As near as I can tell the previous owner didn't run JASO / MA oil either - so I'm not terribly worried. We'll see after this first change. -Joey On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Cecil wrote: > I switched both my bikes one being a1979 gs850 tp rotella 5w40 full > synthetic without a problem. what you have to be careful of is oils > with friction reducers as the will allow the clutch to slip and not > engage. that is why the rotella 5w40 works well it is designed for > high compression diesel engines and does not contain friction > reducers. also any oil that has an api energy conservation rating on > it will have friction reducers. > Cecil > > On Apr 19, 7:41 pm, Joey Kelley wrote: >> At the risk of starting another oil thread >> I picked up Rotella T 10w40 - I've used Rotella before, but not the T >> - or synthetic blend. >> It doesn't say JASO MA on it - but the sheet on the shell website >> lists JASO DH-2, MA - only under the 15w40 grade. They don't even list >> a 10w40 grade. >> Thoughts?http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=rotella-en&FC2=/rotella-en...] >> -Joey >> >> -- >> -Joey Kelley >> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online >> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! >> JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- -Joey Kelley JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I'm wondering if I bought the wrong oil
I switched both my bikes one being a1979 gs850 tp rotella 5w40 full synthetic without a problem. what you have to be careful of is oils with friction reducers as the will allow the clutch to slip and not engage. that is why the rotella 5w40 works well it is designed for high compression diesel engines and does not contain friction reducers. also any oil that has an api energy conservation rating on it will have friction reducers. Cecil On Apr 19, 7:41 pm, Joey Kelley wrote: > At the risk of starting another oil thread > I picked up Rotella T 10w40 - I've used Rotella before, but not the T > - or synthetic blend. > It doesn't say JASO MA on it - but the sheet on the shell website > lists JASO DH-2, MA - only under the 15w40 grade. They don't even list > a 10w40 grade. > Thoughts?http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=rotella-en&FC2=/rotella-en...] > -Joey > > -- > -Joey Kelley > JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online > JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! > JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I'm wondering if I bought the wrong oil
ZDDP- Is that a Zinc additive you speak of ? Do you what oils have it? Thanks On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Kurt Nolte wrote: > That's sort of what I was meaning. Engine oils in general are heading > steadily toward more and more low-friction modifiers, and it's getting > harder to find the older additives now (ZDDP in particular, which older > flat-tappet engines need more than modern roller/rocker tappets and VVT > engines do). Friction modifiers/inhibitors aren't good for wet clutches > (like ours and the DSG/DCT automatics out there now), which need a good > viscous fluid that transfers heat well and keeps a steady friction > throughout a broad temp range. > > I love synthetic oils; my old VWs each get moved to synthetics whenever I > do a reseal on them (which eliminates the weepy changeover). > > Engines and transmissions are going in opposite directions as to their > needs, so I'm wondering when the OEMs are going to start splitting them off > again, giving you a long-life transmission oil fill and a shorter interval > engine oil fill. > > I personally am looking forward to the transition. So much easier to do > engine swaps when you don't have to move both. ;) > > -Kurt > > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: > >> Kurt, >> Synthetics are not a bad thing - neither are they a cause for >> panic and oil switching - provided that you switch to them early >> enough in the engines life. >> I think we'll be seeing a march towards Synthetics but it will >> start at the OEMs. >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I'm wondering if I bought the wrong oil
That's sort of what I was meaning. Engine oils in general are heading steadily toward more and more low-friction modifiers, and it's getting harder to find the older additives now (ZDDP in particular, which older flat-tappet engines need more than modern roller/rocker tappets and VVT engines do). Friction modifiers/inhibitors aren't good for wet clutches (like ours and the DSG/DCT automatics out there now), which need a good viscous fluid that transfers heat well and keeps a steady friction throughout a broad temp range. I love synthetic oils; my old VWs each get moved to synthetics whenever I do a reseal on them (which eliminates the weepy changeover). Engines and transmissions are going in opposite directions as to their needs, so I'm wondering when the OEMs are going to start splitting them off again, giving you a long-life transmission oil fill and a shorter interval engine oil fill. I personally am looking forward to the transition. So much easier to do engine swaps when you don't have to move both. ;) -Kurt On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: > Kurt, > Synthetics are not a bad thing - neither are they a cause for > panic and oil switching - provided that you switch to them early > enough in the engines life. > I think we'll be seeing a march towards Synthetics but it will > start at the OEMs. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I'm wondering if I bought the wrong oil
Kurt, Synthetics are not a bad thing - neither are they a cause for panic and oil switching - provided that you switch to them early enough in the engines life. I think we'll be seeing a march towards Synthetics but it will start at the OEMs. -Joey On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Kurt Nolte wrote: > I'm wondering, with the steady march toward synthetics for everything and > ever lighter weight oils for low friction and better mileage, when > motorcycles will go back to having split cases with a heavier weight oil for > the transmission and a lighter weight oil for the crank case. > > -Kurt > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > -- -Joey Kelley JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I'm wondering if I bought the wrong oil
I'm wondering, with the steady march toward synthetics for everything and ever lighter weight oils for low friction and better mileage, when motorcycles will go back to having split cases with a heavier weight oil for the transmission and a lighter weight oil for the crank case. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I'm wondering if I bought the wrong oil
Mr. Viggy's comments are often accurate - when I was an Amsoil dealer I encouraged people to at least try it first before making that assumption - but in older designs with high mileage, often times the very nature of the non-pure oil was what kept the seals intact. My suggestion would be to try it - but watch for weaping and other leaks. If you see severe leaks, switch back. IMHO - Amsoil makes the best synthetic products out there - not to say there is anything wrong with Mobil 1 - but I found Amsoils products to be better - hence I started selling them. (BTW, I never made enough to cover the yearly dealer fee) -Joey On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:33 AM, MrViggy wrote: > Nope. Stick with dino. Synthetic oil molecules are consistent in size, and > have a tendency to blow by piston rings if the engine was run with dino oil > for a while. I switched my car at 7000 miles, and never looked back. As > for my bike, I assume dino was used, so I'm sticking with that. > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:24 AM, ewun wrote: >> >> OMG - Reading the above - Then, maybe I shouldn't change my 2002 750NH >> from conventional oil 10w40 to a synthetic Mobile1 at this point? >> (Leads to weeping?) Your comments/recommendations would be >> appreciated (hoping I'm not highjacking your thread too much, but it's >> related). >> >> Eric > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > -- -Joey Kelley JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I'm wondering if I bought the wrong oil
Nope. Stick with dino. Synthetic oil molecules are consistent in size, and have a tendency to blow by piston rings if the engine was run with dino oil for a while. I switched my car at 7000 miles, and never looked back. As for my bike, I assume dino was used, so I'm sticking with that. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:24 AM, ewun wrote: > OMG - Reading the above - Then, maybe I shouldn't change my 2002 750NH > from conventional oil 10w40 to a synthetic Mobile1 at this point? > (Leads to weeping?) Your comments/recommendations would be > appreciated (hoping I'm not highjacking your thread too much, but it's > related). > > Eric > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I'm wondering if I bought the wrong oil
OMG - Reading the above - Then, maybe I shouldn't change my 2002 750NH from conventional oil 10w40 to a synthetic Mobile1 at this point? (Leads to weeping?) Your comments/recommendations would be appreciated (hoping I'm not highjacking your thread too much, but it's related). Eric On Apr 20, 4:53 am, "Allen Thomas" wrote: > Nope. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > > > -Original Message- > From: Joey Kelley > > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 22:14:55 > To: > Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I'm wondering if I bought the wrong oil > > Allen, > No issues with hard starting? > -Joey > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Allen wrote: > > I have used the 15w40 with good sucess. > > > On Apr 19, 9:43 pm, Joey Kelley wrote: > >> You have a point - and I'll be watching it closely - but this is a > >> traditional oil that has a synthetic additive package - in effect a > >> hybrid oil, not as likely to weep as a fully synthetic oil. > >> Unfortunately, I can't come up with Rotella 10w40 anywhere - I'm > >> wondering if the product has been discontinued. > >> Talked to a local garage yesterday, said he hasn't sold a quart of > >> 10w40 in three years. Cars have gone to 5w20, 10w30, 5w30 etc. > >> The times they are a changin' > >> -Joey > > >> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Kyle Munz wrote: > >> > I dunno about all the rest of that, but I know that switching an older > >> > engine to synthetic after years of dinojuice is weepy engine looking to > >> > happen. > > >> > -Kyle > > >> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Joey Kelley wrote: > > >> >> At the risk of starting another oil thread > >> >> I picked up Rotella T 10w40 - I've used Rotella before, but not the T > >> >> - or synthetic blend. > >> >> It doesn't say JASO MA on it - but the sheet on the shell website > >> >> lists JASO DH-2, MA - only under the 15w40 grade. They don't even list > >> >> a 10w40 grade. > >> >> Thoughts? > > >> >>http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=rotella-en&FC2=/rotella-en...] > >> >> -Joey > > >> >> -- > >> >> -Joey Kelley > >> >> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online > >> >> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! > >> >> JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow > > >> >> -- > >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >> Groups > >> >> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >> >> To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> >> nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> >> For more options, visit this group at > >> >>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> > For more options, visit this group at > >> >http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> -Joey Kelley > >> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online > >> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! > >> JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- > -Joey Kelley > JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online > JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! > JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I'm wondering if I bought the wrong oil
Nope. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Joey Kelley Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 22:14:55 To: Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I'm wondering if I bought the wrong oil Allen, No issues with hard starting? -Joey On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Allen wrote: > I have used the 15w40 with good sucess. > > On Apr 19, 9:43 pm, Joey Kelley wrote: >> You have a point - and I'll be watching it closely - but this is a >> traditional oil that has a synthetic additive package - in effect a >> hybrid oil, not as likely to weep as a fully synthetic oil. >> Unfortunately, I can't come up with Rotella 10w40 anywhere - I'm >> wondering if the product has been discontinued. >> Talked to a local garage yesterday, said he hasn't sold a quart of >> 10w40 in three years. Cars have gone to 5w20, 10w30, 5w30 etc. >> The times they are a changin' >> -Joey >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Kyle Munz wrote: >> > I dunno about all the rest of that, but I know that switching an older >> > engine to synthetic after years of dinojuice is weepy engine looking to >> > happen. >> >> > -Kyle >> >> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Joey Kelley wrote: >> >> >> At the risk of starting another oil thread >> >> I picked up Rotella T 10w40 - I've used Rotella before, but not the T >> >> - or synthetic blend. >> >> It doesn't say JASO MA on it - but the sheet on the shell website >> >> lists JASO DH-2, MA - only under the 15w40 grade. They don't even list >> >> a 10w40 grade. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >>http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=rotella-en&FC2=/rotella-en...] >> >> -Joey >> >> >> -- >> >> -Joey Kelley >> >> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online >> >> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! >> >> JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> >http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> >> -- >> -Joey Kelley >> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online >> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! >> JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- -Joey Kelley JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I'm wondering if I bought the wrong oil
Allen, No issues with hard starting? -Joey On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Allen wrote: > I have used the 15w40 with good sucess. > > On Apr 19, 9:43 pm, Joey Kelley wrote: >> You have a point - and I'll be watching it closely - but this is a >> traditional oil that has a synthetic additive package - in effect a >> hybrid oil, not as likely to weep as a fully synthetic oil. >> Unfortunately, I can't come up with Rotella 10w40 anywhere - I'm >> wondering if the product has been discontinued. >> Talked to a local garage yesterday, said he hasn't sold a quart of >> 10w40 in three years. Cars have gone to 5w20, 10w30, 5w30 etc. >> The times they are a changin' >> -Joey >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Kyle Munz wrote: >> > I dunno about all the rest of that, but I know that switching an older >> > engine to synthetic after years of dinojuice is weepy engine looking to >> > happen. >> >> > -Kyle >> >> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Joey Kelley wrote: >> >> >> At the risk of starting another oil thread >> >> I picked up Rotella T 10w40 - I've used Rotella before, but not the T >> >> - or synthetic blend. >> >> It doesn't say JASO MA on it - but the sheet on the shell website >> >> lists JASO DH-2, MA - only under the 15w40 grade. They don't even list >> >> a 10w40 grade. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >>http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=rotella-en&FC2=/rotella-en...] >> >> -Joey >> >> >> -- >> >> -Joey Kelley >> >> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online >> >> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! >> >> JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> >http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> >> -- >> -Joey Kelley >> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online >> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! >> JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- -Joey Kelley JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I'm wondering if I bought the wrong oil
I have used the 15w40 with good sucess. On Apr 19, 9:43 pm, Joey Kelley wrote: > You have a point - and I'll be watching it closely - but this is a > traditional oil that has a synthetic additive package - in effect a > hybrid oil, not as likely to weep as a fully synthetic oil. > Unfortunately, I can't come up with Rotella 10w40 anywhere - I'm > wondering if the product has been discontinued. > Talked to a local garage yesterday, said he hasn't sold a quart of > 10w40 in three years. Cars have gone to 5w20, 10w30, 5w30 etc. > The times they are a changin' > -Joey > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Kyle Munz wrote: > > I dunno about all the rest of that, but I know that switching an older > > engine to synthetic after years of dinojuice is weepy engine looking to > > happen. > > > -Kyle > > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Joey Kelley wrote: > > >> At the risk of starting another oil thread > >> I picked up Rotella T 10w40 - I've used Rotella before, but not the T > >> - or synthetic blend. > >> It doesn't say JASO MA on it - but the sheet on the shell website > >> lists JASO DH-2, MA - only under the 15w40 grade. They don't even list > >> a 10w40 grade. > >> Thoughts? > > >>http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=rotella-en&FC2=/rotella-en...] > >> -Joey > > >> -- > >> -Joey Kelley > >> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online > >> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! > >> JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- > -Joey Kelley > JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online > JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! > JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
