Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
The GS1000 is still here. It runs on 3 out of 4 and I'm going to work on that in the next week or two. I sold the old KZ last week, Graham On Jan 15, 2012, at 12:13 AM, Allen Thomas wrote: Hey Graham, did you ever do anything with that GS1000 or that old KZ? On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Yes. +1 to that assessment. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:45:27 -0500 To: ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD Good read, I'm thinking the problem may be outside the carbs, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Jason King wrote: Check out this link http://www.dansmc.com/starter.htm On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was too rich it would be hard starting when hot. How does the "choke" work on that bike is it in the carbs or in the airbox or intakes? I'd make a point to double check its operation. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:53:50 To: Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I haven't tried that Allen, it's a little hard to do it. What intrigues me is that I can wind away on the starter motor and it's trying to start, give it choke and there's no response at all, then just the smallest shot of starting fluid in both air duct openings (there is one either side of the bike behind the side covers) and the bike starts, still without any choke and it doesn't need it at all. I have owned a lot of these 454's and this is not the norm. I'll attach a pic of the bike, Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
Hey Graham, did you ever do anything with that GS1000 or that old KZ? On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > Yes. +1 to that assessment. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > From: Graham Rogers > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:45:27 -0500 > To: > ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD > > Good read, I'm thinking the problem may be outside the carbs, Graham > > On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Jason King wrote: > > Check out this link http://www.dansmc.com/starter.htm > > > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: >> >> Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean >> or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it >> starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was too rich it would be >> hard starting when hot. How does the "choke" work on that bike is it in the >> carbs or in the airbox or intakes? I'd make a point to double check its >> operation. >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Graham Rogers >> Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com >> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:53:50 >> To: >> Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD >> >> I haven't tried that Allen, it's a little hard to do it. What >> intrigues me is that I can wind away on the starter motor and it's >> trying to start, give it choke and there's no response at all, then >> just the smallest shot of starting fluid in both air duct openings >> (there is one either side of the bike behind the side covers) and the >> bike starts, still without any choke and it doesn't need it at all. >> I have owned a lot of these 454's and this is not the norm. I'll >> attach a pic of the bike, Graham >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
Yes. +1 to that assessment. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:45:27 To: Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD Good read, I'm thinking the problem may be outside the carbs, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Jason King wrote: > Check out this link http://www.dansmc.com/starter.htm > > > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas > wrote: > Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a > lean or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough > gas. Since it starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was > too rich it would be hard starting when hot. How does the "choke" > work on that bike is it in the carbs or in the airbox or intakes? > I'd make a point to double check its operation. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -Original Message- > From: Graham Rogers > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:53:50 > To: > Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD > > I haven't tried that Allen, it's a little hard to do it. What > intrigues me is that I can wind away on the starter motor and it's > trying to start, give it choke and there's no response at all, then > just the smallest shot of starting fluid in both air duct openings > (there is one either side of the bike behind the side covers) and the > bike starts, still without any choke and it doesn't need it at all. > I have owned a lot of these 454's and this is not the norm. I'll > attach a pic of the bike, Graham > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers > +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers > +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
Brand new battery but good thought. I'll give it an extra jump, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:57 PM, hall...@luckymail.com wrote: I think it might be the battery is a little week. Try to start with a charger hooked to it. It might not have enough juice for the coils to work. rodhall cb550sc -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers To: nighthawk_lovers Sent: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD Good read, I'm thinking the problem may be outside the carbs, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Jason King wrote: Check out this link http://www.dansmc.com/starter.htm On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was too rich it would be hard starting when hot. How does the "choke" work on that bike is it in the carbs or in the airbox or intakes? I'd make a point to double check its operation. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:53:50 To: Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I haven't tried that Allen, it's a little hard to do it. What intrigues me is that I can wind away on the starter motor and it's trying to start, give it choke and there's no response at all, then just the smallest shot of starting fluid in both air duct openings (there is one either side of the bike behind the side covers) and the bike starts, still without any choke and it doesn't need it at all. I have owned a lot of these 454's and this is not the norm. I'll attach a pic of the bike, Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
I think it might be the battery is a little week. Try to start with a charger hooked to it. It might not have enough juice for the coils to work. rodhall cb550sc -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers To: nighthawk_lovers Sent: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD Good read, I'm thinking the problem may be outside the carbs, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Jason King wrote: Check out this link http://www.dansmc.com/starter.htm On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was too rich it would be hard starting when hot. How does the "choke" work on that bike is it in the carbs or in the airbox or intakes? I'd make a point to double check its operation. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:53:50 To: Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I haven't tried that Allen, it's a little hard to do it. What intrigues me is that I can wind away on the starter motor and it's trying to start, give it choke and there's no response at all, then just the smallest shot of starting fluid in both air duct openings (there is one either side of the bike behind the side covers) and the bike starts, still without any choke and it doesn't need it at all. I have owned a lot of these 454's and this is not the norm. I'll attach a pic of the bike, Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
Good read, I'm thinking the problem may be outside the carbs, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Jason King wrote: Check out this link http://www.dansmc.com/starter.htm On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was too rich it would be hard starting when hot. How does the "choke" work on that bike is it in the carbs or in the airbox or intakes? I'd make a point to double check its operation. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:53:50 To: Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I haven't tried that Allen, it's a little hard to do it. What intrigues me is that I can wind away on the starter motor and it's trying to start, give it choke and there's no response at all, then just the smallest shot of starting fluid in both air duct openings (there is one either side of the bike behind the side covers) and the bike starts, still without any choke and it doesn't need it at all. I have owned a lot of these 454's and this is not the norm. I'll attach a pic of the bike, Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
choke is in the carbs, just open/close butterflies and remember I tried two separate sets of carbs, thoroughly cleaned with same results. On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was too rich it would be hard starting when hot. How does the "choke" work on that bike is it in the carbs or in the airbox or intakes? I'd make a point to double check its operation. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:53:50 To: Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I haven't tried that Allen, it's a little hard to do it. What intrigues me is that I can wind away on the starter motor and it's trying to start, give it choke and there's no response at all, then just the smallest shot of starting fluid in both air duct openings (there is one either side of the bike behind the side covers) and the bike starts, still without any choke and it doesn't need it at all. I have owned a lot of these 454's and this is not the norm. I'll attach a pic of the bike, Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
Check out this link http://www.dansmc.com/starter.htm On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean > or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it > starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was too rich it would be > hard starting when hot. How does the "choke" work on that bike is it in the > carbs or in the airbox or intakes? I'd make a point to double check its > operation. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -Original Message- > From: Graham Rogers > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:53:50 > To: > Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD > > I haven't tried that Allen, it's a little hard to do it. What > intrigues me is that I can wind away on the starter motor and it's > trying to start, give it choke and there's no response at all, then > just the smallest shot of starting fluid in both air duct openings > (there is one either side of the bike behind the side covers) and the > bike starts, still without any choke and it doesn't need it at all. > I have owned a lot of these 454's and this is not the norm. I'll > attach a pic of the bike, Graham > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was too rich it would be hard starting when hot. How does the "choke" work on that bike is it in the carbs or in the airbox or intakes? I'd make a point to double check its operation. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:53:50 To: Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I haven't tried that Allen, it's a little hard to do it. What intrigues me is that I can wind away on the starter motor and it's trying to start, give it choke and there's no response at all, then just the smallest shot of starting fluid in both air duct openings (there is one either side of the bike behind the side covers) and the bike starts, still without any choke and it doesn't need it at all. I have owned a lot of these 454's and this is not the norm. I'll attach a pic of the bike, Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
You threw me a curve with using two sets of carbs. If you use your hand to further "choke" the carbs will it start? Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:40:01 To: Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD No, it's not like Suzukis and I've tried that - no vacuum leaks. It's a bit of a mystery isn't it, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > It might have o-rings in the intake manifold that seals to the > heads. Suzuki does that, and when they crack you get a bad vacuum > leak before the carb. I'd try spraying carb cleaner around the > whole intake system while its running and listen for any rpm changes. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -Original Message- > From: Graham Rogers > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:25:55 > To: > Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD > > I had two sets of carbs to work with and I cleaned them both > thoroughly , including all passage ways and jets - no enrichment > valves on this bike. The choke really is a choke. I tried both > sets of carbs and the results were the same. Graham > > > On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > >> My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Graham Rogers >> Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com >> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 >> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! >> Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com >> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD >> >> I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I >> can >> get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far >> this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into >> each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any >> choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, >> even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and >> the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It >> will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until >> it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting >> fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? >> It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I >> bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers >> +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ >> group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers >> +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ >> group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers > +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers > +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
No, it's not like Suzukis and I've tried that - no vacuum leaks. It's a bit of a mystery isn't it, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: It might have o-rings in the intake manifold that seals to the heads. Suzuki does that, and when they crack you get a bad vacuum leak before the carb. I'd try spraying carb cleaner around the whole intake system while its running and listen for any rpm changes. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:25:55 To: Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I had two sets of carbs to work with and I cleaned them both thoroughly , including all passage ways and jets - no enrichment valves on this bike. The choke really is a choke. I tried both sets of carbs and the results were the same. Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
It might have o-rings in the intake manifold that seals to the heads. Suzuki does that, and when they crack you get a bad vacuum leak before the carb. I'd try spraying carb cleaner around the whole intake system while its running and listen for any rpm changes. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:25:55 To: Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I had two sets of carbs to work with and I cleaned them both thoroughly , including all passage ways and jets - no enrichment valves on this bike. The choke really is a choke. I tried both sets of carbs and the results were the same. Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -Original Message- > From: Graham Rogers > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! > Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD > > I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can > get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far > this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into > each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any > choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, > even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and > the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It > will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until > it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting > fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? > It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I > bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers > +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers > +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
For that I need a day with temps above 40 degrees. On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Kyle Munz wrote: 3,2,1...Seafoam! -Kyle On Jan 14, 2012 3:05 PM, "Allen Thomas" wrote: My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
That makes sense because it seems more a time related issue than temperature but there's no sign of leaking gas, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Jason King wrote: Maybe the bowls are draining back out when it sits and gets cold and it doesn't have enough pump to fill them till its running On Jan 14, 2012 4:05 PM, "Allen Thomas" wrote: My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
I had two sets of carbs to work with and I cleaned them both thoroughly , including all passage ways and jets - no enrichment valves on this bike. The choke really is a choke. I tried both sets of carbs and the results were the same. Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
3,2,1...Seafoam! -Kyle On Jan 14, 2012 3:05 PM, "Allen Thomas" wrote: > My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -Original Message- > From: Graham Rogers > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! > Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD > > I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can > get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far > this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into > each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any > choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, > even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and > the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It > will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until > it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting > fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? > It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I > bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
Maybe the bowls are draining back out when it sits and gets cold and it doesn't have enough pump to fill them till its running On Jan 14, 2012 4:05 PM, "Allen Thomas" wrote: > My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -Original Message- > From: Graham Rogers > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! > Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD > > I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can > get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far > this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into > each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any > choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, > even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and > the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It > will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until > it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting > fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? > It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I > bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD
My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the choke just 'chokes' it. Without using the choke, even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle. It will start again as often as I try it, without starting fluid, until it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting fluid to get it going again. Any suggestions as to what's going on? It has new air filters, new oil and plugs. It wasn't running when I bought the bike a couple of weeks ago. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
