Re: [nlug] New to Nashville Area

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hello Howard,

Sounds great - see everyone then/there!

 - Wesley


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Howard White  wrote:

> On 09/05/2013 10:49 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Thanks for the updates - glad I haven't missed it this month - place? I
>> see the "August only" location but not the regular location.
>>
>>   - Wesley
>>
>>
> Welcome to Nashville, Wesley.  Your timing is excellent.  We'll meet on
> the Vanderbilt campus, MRBIII Room 1220, 6PM.  There are directions on the
> web site to that site.
>
> Topic next Tuesday is Cryptography.  Jonathan Low is presenting one of his
> graduate papers on the statistical engines supporting cryptography.  We
> were supposed to post this paper and notice to the web site but...  life
> happens.
>
> Howard White
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Re: [nlug] New to Nashville Area

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hello,

Thanks for the updates - glad I haven't missed it this month - place? I see
the "August only" location but not the regular location.

 - Wesley


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:49 AM, andrew mcelroy  wrote:

> We always have the Nlug meeting on the second Tuesday of the month.
>
> As to what we are going to talk about, no clue.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun 
> wrote:
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> Hello all,
>
> Just moved to the area from Asheville, NC. I'm a longtime Linux user, lots
> of different roles in the software world, now a Technical Account Manager
> for Red Hat.
>
> I'm excited about meeting folks in the LUG. I checked out the
> http://nlug.wikispot.org/ site, but didn't see an announcement for
> upcoming meetings - perhaps I missed it? Any details appreciated.
>
> Best,
> Wesley
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[nlug] New to Nashville Area

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hello all,

Just moved to the area from Asheville, NC. I'm a longtime Linux user, lots 
of different roles in the software world, now a Technical Account Manager 
for Red Hat.

I'm excited about meeting folks in the LUG. I checked out the 
http://nlug.wikispot.org/ site, but didn't see an announcement for upcoming 
meetings - perhaps I missed it? Any details appreciated.

Best,
Wesley

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Re: [nlug] Meeting September 10, 2013; 6PM

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

I missed the original airing of that NPR piece, I'm guessing this might be it:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=219762746

Interesting to read. Howard, you may be referring to another airing though, 
this person is an editor at the Guardian not an industry expert. But he does 
mention open source solutions - good deal there!

Looking forward to Tuesday,
Wesley 

On Sep 8, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Howard White  wrote:

> Folks,
> 
> I love it when a good plan comes together.  Our topic for Tuesday night is a 
> Cryptography tutorial from Jonathan Low who is in a unique position to 
> discuss that which Mr. Snowden has revealed regarding the previously 
> purported "secure" encryption by which business is now done.
> 
> Please tell me that there is no one who is shocked at the recent revelations. 
>  Quiet, Chaney.  No I'm not being a pessimist.
> 
> So some "industry expert" was interviewed on NPR Thursday or Friday of last 
> week as to what a self-respecting, security conscious, person was to do in 
> light of the broken encryption.  The suggestion?  Look for an open source 
> replacement for that proprietary software that one may no longer trust!
> 
> Bring it on, Jon.  Now we are really interested.
> 
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[nlug] ping amber re: minecraft modding

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hi Amber,

Can you send me the minecraft modding presentation link?

Thanks,
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Re: [nlug] ping amber re: minecraft modding

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Woo! Thanks :)


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Amber Adams  wrote:

> Certainly! I knew I'd forget as soon as I went to bed:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8w-rVCOgjt8My1NekVuNG1WbU0/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Amber
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Michael Butler wrote:
>
>> User error
>> Me too please.
>> On Sep 11, 2013 11:04 AM, "Michael Butler"  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 11, 2013 10:51 AM, "Wesley Duffee-Braun" 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Amber,
>>> >
>>> > Can you send me the minecraft modding presentation link?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Wesley
>>> >
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>>> Thanks,
>>> Michael
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Re: [nlug] centos install question

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hi Howard,

What version of CentOS is this? Do you have the /var/log/anaconda* you can
pass along? Have you tried using a kickstart file? You mentioned this a VM,
what is the hypervisor?

 - wesley


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> One of my LEAST favorite things about CentOS is its graphical installer,
> specifically the partitioning tool.  I want my disk laid out _MY_ way,
> thank you very much.  I may be wrong but at least I am consistent!
>
> I've done my usual set of primary partitions and now I want sda4 to be the
> rest of the disk as a LVM space.  If I go to create that space, the utility
> proceeds to smack that sucker as sda2.  grr.
>
> If this were a regular system, I would boot to a live CD, lay out the
> partitions the way I want and then run the installer, changing what I need
> to change to build the fstab in the install.  But no, this is a virtual
> guest.  Guess I'm gonna learn how to boot a "naked" virtual guest from a
> live CD.
>
> How ghetto is that?
>
> Howard
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Re: [nlug] LogMeIn & TeamViewer

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Google hangouts work pretty well. I don't think control can be passed but it is 
platform independent. 

I think you can even do a remote session from your phone. 

> On Oct 16, 2013, at 6:42 PM, RMC  wrote:
> 
> I am going to "bite the bullet" and make all the Windows users I support to 
> Linux.
> 
> Alternately they can find a new friend.
> 
> The question of remote support has been a sticking point.  LogMeIn works 
> great for Mac and Windows.  I find only Hamachi as a LogMeIn option to 
> install on the remote Linux computer.  It is CLI and that doesn't suffice for 
> giving remote support.  Similarly VNC.
> 
> Do I misunderstand VNC or Hamachi providing a GUI?
> 
> What about TeamViewer?  http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx  It seems to 
> fit the need but it just seems too straight forward.  I felt that way about 
> LogMeIn when I first looked at it.
> 
> What are others using to provide remote support to user workstations?
> 
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Re: [nlug] Re: LogMeIn & TeamViewer

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Gotcha. 

Not sure how much it would cost for you (and if that cost would be worth it), 
but Bomgar is awesome for not only screen/control sharing but also collecting 
information about the remote computer. 

Saves lots of time looking up system information when the Bomgar app does it 
for you. 

> On Oct 16, 2013, at 7:31 PM, RMC  wrote:
> 
> Taking control is an essential requirement.
> 
>> On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:42:48 PM UTC-5, RMC wrote:
>> I am going to "bite the bullet" and make all the Windows users I support to 
>> Linux.
>> 
>> Alternately they can find a new friend.
>> 
>> The question of remote support has been a sticking point.  LogMeIn works 
>> great for Mac and Windows.  I find only Hamachi as a LogMeIn option to 
>> install on the remote Linux computer.  It is CLI and that doesn't suffice 
>> for giving remote support.  Similarly VNC.
>> 
>> Do I misunderstand VNC or Hamachi providing a GUI?
>> 
>> What about TeamViewer?  http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx  It seems to 
>> fit the need but it just seems too straight forward.  I felt that way about 
>> LogMeIn when I first looked at it.
>> 
>> What are others using to provide remote support to user workstations?
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Re: [nlug] LinkedIn Skills Question

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

ANSI C


On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:18 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote:

> Does anyone have a suggestion on how to indicate C programming as a skill
> in LinkedIn?  You have to select from a list of predefined skills, and I
> haven't been able to locate anything specifically C-related, although other
> programming languages are listed.
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Re: [nlug] LinkedIn Skills Question

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

np :)


On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:24 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote:

>  On 10/17/2013 10:20 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote:
>
> ANSI C
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:18 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have a suggestion on how to indicate C programming as a skill
>> in LinkedIn?  You have to select from a list of predefined skills, and I
>> haven't been able to locate anything specifically C-related, although other
>> programming languages are listed.
>>
>>   Thanks!
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Re: [nlug] Re: November 12th meeting + free networking gear

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Heh, I'll switch out and take 50 if someone else really wants a 24. I just
didn't want to be greedy if someone else had a 50-port need :)


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Tilghman Lesher wrote:

> Yes, both of those are now spoken for.
>
> I find it a little humorous that the 24-port switches are spoken for
> before the 50-port switches.
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Greg  wrote:
> > Has anyone requested either of the GS724Ts?
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 10:03:14 PM UTC-6, Tilghman Lesher wrote:
> >>
> >> Coming up next Tuesday, I will be doing a talk about the many fun
> >> things you can do with GraphViz, which will include a segment on a
> >> neat app I built that layers network graphs on top of network maps.
> >> To do such requires a managed switch which includes SNMP support,
> >> which the consumer models generally do not do.
> >>
> >> To that end, I have a number of Netgear switches that are available to
> >> NLUG members who might wish to pursue this.  In all, I have 6
> >> switches, 2 24-port switches, and 4 50-port switches, two each of the
> >> following models:  GS724T, FS750T, FS750T2.  The first and last model
> >> numbers also have 2 ports each into which fiber transceivers may be
> >> inserted, though the fiber transceivers would have to be obtained
> >> separately.
> >>
> >> Also, the switches will need to be reset to factory defaults to be
> >> useful to you.  I have accomplished this so far on the 2 24-port
> >> switches, but haven't done so yet on the other four.
> >>
> >> Anybody interested in some network switches?
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Re: [nlug] Okay southern wimps - meeting tonight at 6PM

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hi Dave,

I don't have people's names down yet, but here were the topics (anyone care
to fill in the names?)

 - http://www.linuxmanpages.com/man1/cat.1.php: presentation on the 'cat'
command
 - https://github.com/appcelerator/hyperloop: next generation compiler for
mobile development (but not just mobile, Windows desktop as well). I found
this link today -
http://ceogeek.tumblr.com/post/64080615800/introducing-hyperloop

I had to leave around 7 so I may have missed something - anything else
happen?

Best,
Wesley



On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:07 AM, David R. Wilson  wrote:

> Sorry guys,
>
> I had a late night at the office last night, so I missed it.
> Anyone have highlights?
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 17:43 -0600, Justin W Elam wrote:
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Re: [nlug] continuing struggles with yum on CentOS 6.5

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hello Howard,

How long are you wanting before running the kill? Anything in
/var/log/messages related?

Thanks,
Wesley


On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Howard White  wrote:

> On 01/02/2014 11:32 PM, Sabuj Pattanayek wrote:
>
>> try rebuilding the rpmdb :
>>
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11696113/yum-on-
>> centos-stuck-at-loaded-plugins-fastestmirror
>>
>> Give it a few minutes when you run yum again after the db is rebuilt.
>> Try some of these :
>>
>> http://superuser.com/questions/384963/yum-hangs-and-wont-respond
>>
>>
> Sabuj  (and everyone else suffering this thread),
>
> Many thanks for your search efforts on my behalf.
>
> I have worked through each of the suggested solutions from the threads you
> posted and I keep coming back to the core problem:
>
> the process /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/yum --verbose --no-plugins info
> goes into a tight loop that I kill externally from htop (on another
> terminal session).  None of the debugging or activity appears in
> /var/log/yum.log.
>
> After I issue the command, the feedback returned is:
>   Config time: 0.015
>
>   Yum Version: 3.2.29
>   Setting up Package Sacks
>
>
> I'll keep looking...
>
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Re: [nlug] continuing struggles with yum on CentOS 6.5

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hi Howard,

I'm pretty confused too on what has been done and not done.

However, going off the errors above (the "Cannot retrieve repository
metadata") I did find this article
https://access.redhat.com/site/solutions/39598 (sorry for being behind
regwall, free registration though) - one of its suggestions is to (a)
disable all 3rd party/custom repo's then (b) run 'yum clean all' and then
(c) enable the previously disabled repo's one by one. I think we have
attempted (a) and (c) but I'm not sure we have tried step (b) in between.

 - Wesley


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> On 01/03/2014 02:59 PM, Howard White wrote:
>
>> On 01/03/2014 02:50 PM, Sabuj Pattanayek wrote:
>>
>>> ok, that's it! This is what I get :
>>>
>>> % curl "http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=6&arch=i386&repo=os";
>>> http://mirror.cs.vt.edu/pub/CentOS/6.5/os/i386/
>>> http://mirrors.cmich.edu/centos/6.5/os/i386/
>>> ftp://mirror.nandomedia.com/pub/CentOS/6.5/os/i386/
>>> http://mirror.millry.co/CentOS/6.5/os/i386/
>>> http://mirrors.adams.net/centos/6.5/os/i386/
>>> http://centos.corenetworks.net/6.5/os/i386/
>>> http://centos-mirror.jchost.net/6.5/os/i386/
>>> http://mirror.es.its.nyu.edu/centos/6.5/os/i386/
>>> http://mirrors.rit.edu/centos/6.5/os/i386/
>>> http://mirror.metrocast.net/centos/6.5/os/i386/
>>>
>>> % host mirrorlist.centos.org 
>>> mirrorlist.centos.org  has address
>>> 72.232.223.58
>>> mirrorlist.centos.org  has address
>>> 204.15.73.243
>>> mirrorlist.centos.org  has address
>>> 64.235.47.134
>>> mirrorlist.centos.org  has address
>>> 69.30.193.218
>>> mirrorlist.centos.org  has IPv6 address
>>> 2a02:2498:1:3d:5054:ff:fed3:e91a
>>>
>>> I'm using google DNS 8.8.8.8 & 8.8.4.4 .
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'm getting lost here as to how to apply what we've learned to my
>> situation.
>>
>> I changed my /etc/resolv.conf to point to the Google DNS as above.
>>
>> I just tried to run the first curl and it's looping just like the yum
>> commands before.
>>
>> Please forgive my misunderstanding how these pieces fit together.
>>
>> Howard
>>
>>
> Now I'm even more confused!  If I wget the mirrorlist, it comes through
> just fine.  The above "host" command resolves as it should.
>
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Re: [nlug] January topic?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Chiming in on the in-place upgrading. While there are certain scenarios
where one will need to be careful of doing 6->7 in-place (especially if you
rely heavily on SysV scripting), in-place major versions will be supported.

http://www.redhat.com/about/news/archive/2013/12/red-hat-announces-availability-of-red-hat-enterprise-linux-7-beta

 - Wesley


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> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Kent Perrier 
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> > Network configuration has changed, for example. XFS is the default file
> > system now, btrfs is an option. RHEL 7 is based off of Fedora 19, so that
> > will give you a good idea what the foundation is. RHEL 6 is based off of
> > Fedora version 12-14 so a lot changed. For those of us dinosaurs who
> liked
> > our sys V init scritpts, learning systemd is new and frightening! ;)
>
> Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing a discussion on systemd.
> I could talk about upstart, but systemd I'm kind of in the dark on.
>
> Andrew
>
> >
> > Kent
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 2:21 PM, andrew mcelroy 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Kent Perrier 
> >> wrote:
> >> > I'd love to see a RHEL 6 to RHEL 7 transition meeting. I have not
> >> > followed
> >> > Fedora and when I installed the RHEL 7 beta I was a bit lost. :)
> >>
> >> This is interesting. What needed transitioning?
> >>
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[nlug] Feb 2014 Talk

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hello,

Andrew, if you want to put this up for the Feb 2014 on meetup feel free -

"Wesley Duffee-Braun, TAM with Red Hat, will present on GlusterFS. This
will cover terminology, best practices and a demonstration to enable
attendees to start provisioning and using Gluster volumes immediately."

Or does that sound too corporate speak? That's what is usually put up for
Gluster Community Days, but feel free to edit :)

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Re: [nlug] Printed Output?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hi Paul,

Have you checked out the PDF::API2 module?
http://search.cpan.org/dist/PDF-API2/

It's been a while but I seem to remember it being the one to use.

Best,
Wesley

On Saturday, January 18, 2014, Paul Boniol  wrote:

> I know in this day of web pages and mobile devices, actual paper output is
> passé.  But on occasion it is needed.
>
> Is there a (relatively easy) way to create a PDF or other printable
> document out of Perl?  I don't need anything too fancy (read: I don't
> really want to specify the coordinates of everything unless absolutely
> required) but I do need pagination, and column/row lines.
>
> Anyone worked on something similar?  Any hints/tips greatly appreciated!
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[nlug] Re: Feb 2014 Talk

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Yep, Technical Account Manager.

On Monday, January 20, 2014, Kevin Eldridge  wrote:

> Usually a TAM is a Technical Account Manager. Although, some places might
> call them Team Account Managers.
>
> Kevin
> On Jan 20, 2014 5:52 PM, "andrew mcelroy"  wrote:
>
> can you clarify what TAM means? Are you a team architect manager?
>
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 5:48 PM, andrew mcelroy 
> wrote:
> > this meetup is now announced.
> > http://www.meetup.com/Nashville-Linux-Users-Group/events/161638632/
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:35 AM, andrew mcelroy 
> wrote:
> >> I love it. We need more solid talks.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jan 16, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Andrew, if you want to put this up for the Feb 2014 on meetup feel free
> -
> >>
> >> "Wesley Duffee-Braun, TAM with Red Hat, will present on GlusterFS. This
> will
> >> cover terminology, best practices and a demonstration to enable
> attendees to
> >> start provisioning and using Gluster volumes immediately."
> >>
> >> Or does that sound too corporate speak? That's what is usually put up
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> >> Gluster Community Days, but feel free to edit :)
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[nlug] Video recording of presentations?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hi all,

I was thinking about past NLUG presentations and how, although the
presentation material is usually available afterwards, the conversation
during the presentations is helpful and lost after the meeting (unless
someone is taking notes LOL).

So - what would people say to having the presentation portion of the
meetings video recorded and presented on the NLUG site? I don't think we
have to (or necessarily should) share the non-presentation portions, but
having an archive of past presentations could be useful.

Thoughts?

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Re: [nlug] Video recording of presentations?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

So...looks like a mixed bag of opinions.

Thoughts from others?


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:56 PM, andrew mcelroy  wrote:

> actually.. i want to put this theory to the test
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Chris McQuistion
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> > I think if we had recordings of the presentations and meetings,
> attendance
> > would DRASTICALLY drop.
> >
> > My two cents
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Wesley Duffee-Braun 
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> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I was thinking about past NLUG presentations and how, although the
> >> presentation material is usually available afterwards, the conversation
> >> during the presentations is helpful and lost after the meeting (unless
> >> someone is taking notes LOL).
> >>
> >> So - what would people say to having the presentation portion of the
> >> meetings video recorded and presented on the NLUG site? I don't think we
> >> have to (or necessarily should) share the non-presentation portions, but
> >> having an archive of past presentations could be useful.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
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Re: [nlug] Video recording of presentations?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Dave - yeah, I don't know if we'd want to youtube/vimeo/etc or self-host
some mp4's but either way - having them on the NLUG site is key.


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:29 PM, David R. Wilson  wrote:

> I think it would be an excellent idea, as long as the videos are indexed
> on the nlug site, so others could find them.
>
> Dave
>
> On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 12:23 -0600, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote:
> > So...looks like a mixed bag of opinions.
> >
> >
> > Thoughts from others?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:56 PM, andrew mcelroy 
> > wrote:
> > actually.. i want to put this theory to the test
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Chris McQuistion
> >  wrote:
> > > I think if we had recordings of the presentations and
> > meetings, attendance
> > > would DRASTICALLY drop.
> > >
> > > My two cents
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Wesley Duffee-Braun
> > 
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> I was thinking about past NLUG presentations and how,
> > although the
> > >> presentation material is usually available afterwards, the
> > conversation
> > >> during the presentations is helpful and lost after the
> > meeting (unless
> > >> someone is taking notes LOL).
> > >>
> > >> So - what would people say to having the presentation
> > portion of the
> > >> meetings video recorded and presented on the NLUG site? I
> > don't think we
> > >> have to (or necessarily should) share the non-presentation
> > portions, but
> > >> having an archive of past presentations could be useful.
> > >>
> > >> Thoughts?
> > >>
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Re: [nlug] Video recording of presentations?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Real time? H.not sure that is what I meant.


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> On 01/23/2014 01:25 PM, Steven S. Critchfield wrote:
>
>> youtube would be fine as long as they consistently went to an NLUG
>> account that say people could subscribe to. Who knows, it could become a
>> revenue generator for the club. Maybe work on a stylish nlug logo to
>> overlay into the video to improve self advertisement. Should easily allow
>> for David's request that they get indexed on NLUGs site as well.
>>
>>
> There is truth in the thought that video hosting has gone from difficult
> to stupid easy in the past few years.
>
> We tech types are often anti-social in nature.  We've always rejected the
> idea of real time meeting streaming on the excuse that no one would come to
> meetings.  That is a concern of mine also.  But this begs the question:
>  Does NLUG exist for the sake of meetings, the sake of the [ email list |
> irc channel | web site ], for sake of its membership or for the sake of
> evangelizing linux in general?  There isn't one answer, of course.
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Re: [nlug] Video recording of presentations?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Ohhh, ok yeah - good deal. :)

Agreed on the value. For instance - I know when I was planning on moving to
the area it would have helped to see what NLUG had been doing for topics,
just to get a little more acquainted with my future city.


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> On 01/23/2014 01:55 PM, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote:
>
>> Real time? H.not sure that is what I meant.
>>
>>
> It wasn't.  I brought that up from a historical (or as my in-laws always
> say - hysterical) perspective.  No, I do not wish to real-time stream our
> meetings.  Having edited topic presentations could be of real value.
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Re: [nlug] Video recording of presentations?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hi all,

Sounds positive overall. I volunteer to process/edit the video if no one
else wants to take it.

Best,
Wesley



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> I'm in favor of recording presentations for web distribution.  There have
> been great presentations when I have either been sick or work demands
> prevent my attending.
>
> Also, I have "online friends" who are interested in some of our
> presentations.  The one most interested is in Australia, he has no chance
> of ever being there in person.  (I did voice-Skype to him of the HTML 5
> presentation.)
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Re: [nlug] Internet pricing

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I've been doing a little searching and can't find anything supporting the
limit of two internet providers for a particular area. In fact,
in Asheville we had choice of cable, DSL or an over-the-air internet. And
horridly laggy options like Hughes.net. Maybe it is no more than two of one
particular technology?

Am interested in any links showing that limitation from a regulatory body.

On Monday, January 27, 2014, Curt Lundgren  wrote:

> So much for the free market…
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Perkins, Jerry 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>>  On 1/27/14 12:44 PM, Sabuj Pattanayek wrote:
>>
>>
>>   I am getting 100 down 40 up unfettered access for $39.95 a month
>>> through TDS in La Vergne. They have fiber running to my house. I was
>>> astounded to find out this was available after buying my new house. I also
>>> get tv and phone over that fiber so there is a small package discount built
>>> in there
>>>
>>
>>  So now you have to ask, why can't TDS come to Nashville?
>>
>>  Federal regulations limit an area to two suppliers.   Since there
>> are already two in Nashville, we have reached our limit.
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Re: [nlug] [Snipe Hunt Alert!] Data recovery task from the netherworld!

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hi Howard,

http://www.unix.com/unix-advanced-expert-users/86688-formatting-large-ascii-file.html

and

http://www.unix.com/unix-advanced-expert-users/75609-file-format.html

have links to scenarios where progress was made after the "ASCII text, with
very long lines, with no line terminators" file utility result.


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> On 02/03/2014 04:47 PM, Tilghman Lesher wrote:
>
>>
>> Start with the 'file' utility.  It reads the first few bytes of the
>> file to tell you what's stored on the media.
>>
>>
> Oh brother...
>
> It says ASCII text, with very long lines, with no line terminators
>
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[nlug] Who was interested in owncloud + glusterfs?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hi all,

There was someone at Tuesday's meeting who was interested in
owncloud+gluster - but I don't recall their email address.

If it was you, please ping me directly.

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Re: [nlug] ubuntu to move to systemd

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I may be missing a step, but can't you do

# systemctl start/restart/etc service-name

In systemd, and if no systemd service file is found, it will look for a
sysv init script?

Same functionality, slightly different syntax.
On Feb 15, 2014 1:13 PM, "andrew mcelroy"  wrote:

> Maybe I'm about to say something really stupid, but one of my favorite
> features of upstart is the service command.
> So from any directory ( with proper permissions aka sudo):
>  service daemon_here command_here.. i
>
> thus:
>
> service apache restart
>
> service postgresql restart.
>
> It seems like a small thing, but it was really useful.
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Csaba Toth 
> wrote:
> > Hmmm, I just see, that upstart was based on D-Bus too (good to know the
> > system I'm using :D)! So maybe the switch will not be as hard as an
> > OpenRC->systemd.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Csaba Toth 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I lost traction in the "init field" a long time ago, so I liked that
> >> upstart could run the traditional systemv init scripts too, which I'm
> >> familiar with. However, during Christmas I was witness of upgrading more
> >> Hardened Gentoo machines to systemd (form OpenRC). In terms of speed, it
> >> made a huge difference, probably mostly because of parallel service
> startup.
> >> After the upgrade the machines were booting within seconds, while
> before it
> >> took much longer. I'm not too much fond of python or perl though...
> >> But I think it's a good thing. If future dictates that there should be a
> >> transition at some point, then the sooner the better. Having seen the
> >> transition process (from OpenRC to systemd) on Gentoo I can tell it's
> not
> >> easy, but the developers will have take care of that anyway. During the
> boot
> >> many parts of the system are in limbo, the whole process should
> co-operate
> >> and be aware of the dev filesystem, and other things.
> >>
> >> My twin brother could tell much more, he has a cover job as a medical
> >> doctor, but in reality he is a Linux guru. He knows latest news and what
> >> dynamics going on in and between developer teams, etc...
> >>
> >> A little bedtime read:
> >> http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Comparison_of_init_systems
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:27 PM, andrew mcelroy 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Greetings all,
> >>>
> >>> Have you heard the word? no not bird (family guy reference)
> >>>
> >>> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316
> >>>
> >>> Ubuntu is moving to systemd. Apparently Debian > Ubuntu at the end of
> the
> >>> day.
> >>>
> >>> My question is this, who will continue to use upstart?
> >>> Personally, I thought it was a decent system.
> >>> Others will probably disagree. I'd like to (without creating a
> >>> flamewar) hear that side of the debate.
> >>>
> >>> Andrew McElroy
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Re: [nlug] DNS attack mitigation suggestions?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hi Dave,

Have you looked into Fail2Ban? I've used it in the past to dynamically
block random-and-repeating IP's.

http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

 - Wesley


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:29 PM, David R. Wilson  wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I have had a problem with non resolvable IP addresses hitting my DNS
> server (running BIND9) and eating up bandwidth.  I am sure there is some
> instructions on how to assure the IP numbers resolve, but I apparently
> missed the instructions.
>
> Some of those addresses I put into firewall rules to drop the inquiry.
> Since then someone decided random IP addresses were more fun.  Rate
> limiting doesn't seem to help.
>
> Anyone in the group have the short story on how to fix this?
>
> Dave
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Re: [nlug] DNS attack mitigation suggestions?

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Hi Dave,

Here is a link about someone who went through your scenario with a DNS
server and DDOS

https://www.debian-administration.org/article/Blocking_a_DNS_DDOS_using_the_fail2ban_package

Debian, not sure what you are running, but Fail2Ban should be similar setup.

 - Wesley



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> Thanks Guys,
>
> That is part of the problem.  Charter as best I can tell refuses to
> block anything.  The fail2ban program looks like it might work.  It
> looks like just a ping to verify the address is legitimate and drop the
> packet if there is no response would be one way to do it.
>
> I will stare at the fail2ban program docs a bit and see what that is
> going to require.
>
> Dave
>
> On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 13:02 -0600, Tilghman Lesher wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:29 PM, David R. Wilson 
> wrote:
> > > I have had a problem with non resolvable IP addresses hitting my DNS
> > > server (running BIND9) and eating up bandwidth.  I am sure there is
> some
> > > instructions on how to assure the IP numbers resolve, but I apparently
> > > missed the instructions.
> > >
> > > Some of those addresses I put into firewall rules to drop the inquiry.
> > > Since then someone decided random IP addresses were more fun.  Rate
> > > limiting doesn't seem to help.
> > >
> > > Anyone in the group have the short story on how to fix this?
> >
> > I'm guessing you're talking about non-routable addresses?  Ultimately,
> > it's going to have to be solved by your upstream backbone provider, in
> > terms of blocking packets with forged source addresses, since that's
> > the nature of the problem.
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Re: [nlug] DNS attack mitigation suggestions?

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Good deal - let me know if you have any issues!


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:33 PM, David R. Wilson  wrote:

> Thanks Wesley,
>
> That helps a bunch.  In this case it is a Centos box, but I don't think
> that is going to cause any problems.
>
> Dave
>
> On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 13:19 -0600, Wesley Duffee-Brahun wrote:
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> >
> > Here is a link about someone who went through your scenario with a DNS
> > server and DDOS
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.debian-administration.org/article/Blocking_a_DNS_DDOS_using_the_fail2ban_package
> >
> >
> >
> > Debian, not sure what you are running, but Fail2Ban should be similar
> > setup.
> >
> >
> >  - Wesley
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:15 PM, David R. Wilson 
> > wrote:
> > Thanks Guys,
> >
> > That is part of the problem.  Charter as best I can tell
> > refuses to
> > block anything.  The fail2ban program looks like it might
> > work.  It
> > looks like just a ping to verify the address is legitimate and
> > drop the
> > packet if there is no response would be one way to do it.
> >
> > I will stare at the fail2ban program docs a bit and see what
> > that is
> > going to require.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 13:02 -0600, Tilghman Lesher wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:29 PM, David R. Wilson
> >  wrote:
> > > > I have had a problem with non resolvable IP addresses
> > hitting my DNS
> > > > server (running BIND9) and eating up bandwidth.  I am sure
> > there is some
> > > > instructions on how to assure the IP numbers resolve, but
> > I apparently
> > > > missed the instructions.
> > > >
> > > > Some of those addresses I put into firewall rules to drop
> > the inquiry.
> > > > Since then someone decided random IP addresses were more
> > fun.  Rate
> > > > limiting doesn't seem to help.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone in the group have the short story on how to fix
> > this?
> > >
> > > I'm guessing you're talking about non-routable addresses?
> >  Ultimately,
> > > it's going to have to be solved by your upstream backbone
> > provider, in
> > > terms of blocking packets with forged source addresses,
> > since that's
> > > the nature of the problem.
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Re: [nlug] [OFF TOPIC] Comcast ClearQAM is gone. What now?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Be sure to check out antennaweb.org - shows the direction and distance of
signals reaching your address.
On Feb 28, 2014 11:51 AM, "Chris McQuistion" 
wrote:

> We installed an antenna at our office in Nashville, but we're having a
> problem picking up the local ABC, though we can get the other local
> channels.
>
> At home, I live in Smyrna, and I'm just a little too far out to get good
> reception on all channels
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Gibson Prichard wrote:
>
>> Your best bet for those locals is an antenna, which has no recurring cost.
>> If you can't stomach the thought of an antenna, Comcast has Digital
>> Terminal Adatapters (DTA) available, including an HD version with HDMI out
>> for a nominal fee.
>> I was hit with this at my office this week and we opted to go with
>> antennas in lieu of the DTA boxes, but we have over 80 television sets that
>> would need those boxes and that was too much.
>>
>> Gibson Prichard
>> Nashville, TN
>> gib...@prichard.tv
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Evan Brown  wrote:
>>
>>> This most likely comes from the retransmission consent contracts with
>>> the ota providers. Comcast probably now pays the ota providers for
>>> retransmission but stated they are shutting down the unencrypted feed. I
>>> would research things outside of Comcast with this situation as they may
>>> not be the evil culprit here.
>>>  On Feb 28, 2014 11:29 AM, "Chris McQuistion" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I've received some letters from Comcast lately, explaining that they
 were no longer going to be broadcasting any analog channels over the wire
 and clients would need cable boxes (DTA's) to tune in channels.  I
 (foolishly) believed that they were going to leave the digital ClearQAM
 channels alone and HDTV's with tuners would still be able to tune in the
 local HD channels (local ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, etc).

 It appears I was wrong about that and Comcast has taken away the
 ClearQAM channels and is no longer broadcasting those any more.

 Anyone know what to do about this?  Is Comcast within their legal right
 to do this?  Whether they are or not, is there anything that can we can do
 about it?  I have a home DVR system that records off ClearQAM, as do many
 of my friends and family.  None of those are working, now.

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Re: [nlug] Java heap space

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What version of CentOS are you running?

I found this https://access.redhat.com/site/solutions/409353 that may be
related.


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Howard White  wrote:

> On 03/13/2014 09:01 AM, Kent Perrier wrote:
>
>> The first thing that jumps to my mind is the ulimit on memory size for
>> the user that is running the JVM.
>>
>> Kent
>>
>>
> $ ulimit -a
> core file size  (blocks, -c)0
> data seg size   (kbytes, -d)unlimited
> scheduling priority (-e)0
> file size   (blocks, -f)unlimited
> pending signals (-i)96303
> max locked memory   (kbytes, -l)64
> max memory size (kbytes, -m)unlimited
> open files  (-n)1024
> pipe size   (512 bytes, -p) 8
> POSIX message queues(bytes, -q) 819200
> real-time priority  (-r)0
> stack size  (kbytes, -s)10240
> cpu time(seconds, -t)   unlimited
> max user processes  (-u)1024
> virtual memory  (kbytes, -v)unlimited
> file locks  (-x)unlimited
>
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Re: [nlug] Java heap space

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Looks like, from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=790921, that
"However, if an enormous number of small files (hundreds of thousands or
millions) was being mapped , the address space became extremely fragmented"
as Csaba surmised.



On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Csaba Toth wrote:

> JVMs in production can consume many gigs of memory. With 32 bit, you
> certainly won't be able to provide more than 3-4 gigs. Remember, that
> because of PAE, the 4GB limit only applies to per process, so the processes
> together can take far more than 4GB or 12 GB.
> Memory address fragmentation could be a problem maybe?
>
> Csaba
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote:
>
>> What version of CentOS are you running?
>>
>> I found this https://access.redhat.com/site/solutions/409353 that may be
>> related.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Howard White  wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/13/2014 09:01 AM, Kent Perrier wrote:
>>>
>>>> The first thing that jumps to my mind is the ulimit on memory size for
>>>> the user that is running the JVM.
>>>>
>>>> Kent
>>>>
>>>>
>>> $ ulimit -a
>>> core file size  (blocks, -c)0
>>> data seg size   (kbytes, -d)unlimited
>>> scheduling priority (-e)0
>>> file size   (blocks, -f)unlimited
>>> pending signals (-i)96303
>>> max locked memory   (kbytes, -l)64
>>> max memory size (kbytes, -m)unlimited
>>> open files  (-n)1024
>>> pipe size   (512 bytes, -p) 8
>>> POSIX message queues(bytes, -q) 819200
>>> real-time priority  (-r)0
>>> stack size  (kbytes, -s)10240
>>> cpu time(seconds, -t)   unlimited
>>> max user processes  (-u)1024
>>> virtual memory  (kbytes, -v)unlimited
>>> file locks  (-x)unlimited
>>>
>>>
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Re: [nlug] Help Wanted

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hello Joe, Vicki -

When you say "recover from hardware failure" do you mean "recover with a
hardware reboot and/or backups" or do you mean "high availability" ?

Thanks,
Wesley


On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:14 PM,  wrote:

> I need help. I work for a school system and am trying to accomplish a few
> things on a tight budget (I think we have some money for consulting). I
> know I can do what I have in mind on a Linux server or two but I am lacking
> some experience. I am looking for someone who can help me get up to speed.
> Some of the things I would like to do are:
>
>- Set up a mail server that will relay email messages from our student
>data system without becoming an open relay for spammers.
>- Setup up Mailman and be able to recover from hardware failure, etc.
>- Setup a work order system (thinking osTicket) and be able to recover
>from hardware failure, etc.
>- Possibly set up a web server with a CMS and be able to recover from
>hardware failure, etc.
>- Possibly set up an internal DNS server to take the load off our
>Domain Controller.
>
> I am at the point where I have actually all this at one time or another on
> a test server, I just don't feel comfortable with what I know moving
> forward into production. I am looking for someone with the heart of a
> teacher help me move forward.
>
> Thank you.
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Re: [nlug] Meeting tonight

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Howard,

Yeah - this has been a big thing for the past day -
https://access.redhat.com/site/announcements/781953 for anyone running
CentOS/RH 6.5+

 - Wesley


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> Hey folks,
>
> Everybody please come to Vanderbilt MRB-III room 1220 (theater lecture
> hall) at 6PM tonight, 20140408.  The topic tonight is command line Virtual
> box and other VM stuff.  We shall begin the meeting with a new sign up
> sheet for the next 12 meeting topics...
>
>
> Oh, by the way, is this security alarm on anyone else's radar?
>
> 
>
> Had a customer get all out of breath about this, this morning.
>
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Re: Heartbleed; was Re: [nlug] Meeting tonight

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Yeah, if you are running openssl-1.0.1e-15.el6 through
openssl-1.0.1e-16.el6_5.4
then you need to upgrade. The update that Chris mentioned (1.0.1e-16.el6_5.7)
is good to go.




On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Howard White  wrote:

> On 04/08/2014 11:21 AM, Chris McQuistion wrote:
>
>> I just ran yum update on one of my RHEL 6 servers and a CentOS 6 server.
>>   Both have updates to OpenSSL available.  The new version is
>> 1.0.1e-16.el6_5.7
>>
>>
> I likewise did a yum info openssl on a server I'm to deploy soon.  The
> 1.0.1e concerns me as the Heartbleed article calls out 1.0.1g as the
> required level.
>
> Wesley, do you have any insight as to the RH implementation of
> openssl-1.0.1g???
>
> Howard
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Re: Heartbleed; was Re: [nlug] Meeting tonight

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

I see that still says 1.0.1e though - why they didn't change the 1e to 1g
probably has to do with what upstream version was patched by RH, how Red
Hat names packages, etc.


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote:

> Yeah, if you are running openssl-1.0.1e-15.el6 through 
> openssl-1.0.1e-16.el6_5.4
> then you need to upgrade. The update that Chris mentioned (1.0.1e-16.el6_5.7)
> is good to go.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Howard White  wrote:
>
>> On 04/08/2014 11:21 AM, Chris McQuistion wrote:
>>
>>> I just ran yum update on one of my RHEL 6 servers and a CentOS 6 server.
>>>   Both have updates to OpenSSL available.  The new version is
>>> 1.0.1e-16.el6_5.7
>>>
>>>
>> I likewise did a yum info openssl on a server I'm to deploy soon.  The
>> 1.0.1e concerns me as the Heartbleed article calls out 1.0.1g as the
>> required level.
>>
>> Wesley, do you have any insight as to the RH implementation of
>> openssl-1.0.1g???
>>
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Re: Heartbleed; was Re: [nlug] Meeting tonight

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hi all,

Just to follow up on this - if you have any customers (or yourself!) who
are running appliances that can't be easily patched, you can use the
following to help secure your environment:

IPTABLES rules to log and drop heartbleed requests:
http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2014/Apr/44
NMAP script to identify vulnerable hosts:
https://svn.nmap.org/nmap/scripts/ssl-heartbleed.nse


- Wesley



On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:14 PM, John R. Dennison  wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 11:57:49AM -0500, Blake Dunlap wrote:
> > Part of it is they didn't actually fix the bug, they just disabled the
> > vulnerable feature.
>
> The Red Hat update is a patch to remove the info disclosure, as far as I
> know going bu their changelog / RHSA and discussion with Red Hatters on
> IRC.
>
>
>
>
>
> John
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Re: [nlug] 185 TB tape?

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Coincidentally on this topic - I'm still undecided on my July presentation,
but I'm at OpenStack Summit right now and happen to be attending a lot of
tracks on storage (including DR).

If there is interest, I can present on what I'm picking up here. There are
some pretty slick solutions using both block and object storage (and can be
easily applied locally - not just for the big boys)

 - wesley


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> I too managed TSM systems for many years, and even with their Disaster
> Management
> function being implemented well, doing DR recovery with TSM is painful at
> best,
> but it can be done.
>
> Makes me kind of glad I am out of the game.  But it does make me wonder
> what
> 'really big' guys do for true DR Management.  Google and Facebook and the
> like
> are orders of magnitude larger than even most of the big oil and
> healthcare
> providers.  Healthcare and banks/financial guys have HEPA (or banking
> equivalent)
> rules to implement too that adds more complexity to the works. Plus, since
> I left
> there has been a real data explosion in all those fields.
>
> I have worked in Oil/Gas Exploration & Production, Gas transmission, and
> oil field drilling concerns,
> Healthcare, and banking, as well as smaller firms ... so these are the
> areas
> I have some familiarity with.
>
> Little backup companies, like Backblaze, Carbonite, etc have a few hundred
> T or so under
> management.  But they keep it all on round brown and spinning from what I
> can tell.
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Re: [nlug] How long until the Singularity?

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"we ever develop software that can further refine its own programming"

sounds like a compiler.


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> However, if we ever develop software that can further refine its own
> programming, and particularly if there is an environment where numerous
> such programs compete against each other (so that survival of the fittest
> comes into play), we could potentially end up with hyperintelligent
> programs, if that gave a survival advantage. In any case, we might end up
> with software whose mode of success was counter to our own interests. We
> are more intelligent than disease microbes, but that doesn't keep them from
> being a threat.
>
>
> On June 12, 2014 1:52:00 PM CDT, Chris McQuistion 
> wrote:
> > I don't think we're intelligent enough to invent something more
> > intelligent
> > than ourselves.
> >
> > I do believe we're intelligent to invent something that *mimics* some
> > of
> > the things that the human mind can do, but it is just mimicking and it
> > will
> > never be able to do everything our mind can do because even we can't
> > fully
> > understand the human mind.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Pope jonnyX 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Keep an eye on this:
> > >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Brain_Project
> > >
> > > ...still not sure how I feel about the prospect of real human-level
> > (or
> > > more) AI.
> > >
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Re: [nlug] db question

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Hello Jack,

Do you know which commercial database provided the file? Is the file binary?

  - wesley


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>
> How can I import the db to either Libre Base of mysql ?
>
> I do not have the db layout of the db file.  Suggestions?
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Re: [nlug] db question

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Alternatively, what does the "file" command provide for the .db file?


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Wesley Duffee-Braun 
wrote:

> Hello Jack,
>
> Do you know which commercial database provided the file? Is the file
> binary?
>
>   - wesley
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Jack Coats  wrote:
>
>> I have a .db file from a commercially provided database.
>>
>> How can I import the db to either Libre Base of mysql ?
>>
>> I do not have the db layout of the db file.  Suggestions?
>> --
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Re: [nlug] db question

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

So, akin to http://www.fileformat.info/format/corion-dbase-iii.htm ?

If so, you may have luck opening it in Libreoffice directly, or try to
import it there?
https://help.libreoffice.org/Calc/Importing_and_Exporting_dBASE_Files

If you can get it into Libreoffice, you can then export as csv and use the
"load data infile" command for mysql
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/load-data.html

Hope this helps, let me know if not!


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> Yes.  I cat the .db file and it says mysql3 format.  The file is really
> the index to back issues of Fine Woodworking.  The program they provide is
> windows only and they don't 'support' Linux, so I would like to be able to
> parse it myself.  So they don't provide the schema of the file.
>
> The DVD has 38 years of PDF file of issues.
>
> I did try the dbview program, and it indicated it is using version 83 of
> the db file format (dbase defined the initial versions on DOS way back
> when, from my rememberance anyway)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Wesley Duffee-Braun 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Jack,
>>
>> Do you know which commercial database provided the file? Is the file
>> binary?
>>
>>   - wesley
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Jack Coats  wrote:
>>
>>>  I have a .db file from a commercially provided database.
>>>
>>> How can I import the db to either Libre Base of mysql ?
>>>
>>> I do not have the db layout of the db file.  Suggestions?
>>> --
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>>>
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[nlug] July Topic?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hi all,

I'm slated to talk on July 8, and I'm considering two topics.

One is an overview of OpenStack - components, use cases, how to deploy at
home, etc.

Other topic is system monitoring and tuning. sar vs nmon vs collectl, and
the various tuning packages out there (tuned, tuned-ubuntu, etc).

Any preferences from the group?

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Re: [nlug] July Topic?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hi Howard,

So, regarding 6 -> 7, in place upgrades are supported on the RHEL side for
certain use cases (https://access.redhat.com/site/solutions/21964). I
imagine that once CentOS 7 GA's, it'll be much the same in terms of
reliability.

Regarding a preso, maybe it could be something at PhreakNIC? I'm guessing
not everyone would necessarily want to hear about something so
vendor-specific for a monthly meeting, so a PhreakNIC spot could be make
more sense?

So that's one vote for OpenStack!




On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Howard White  wrote:

> On 06/13/2014 09:46 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm slated to talk on July 8, and I'm considering two topics.
>>
>> One is an overview of OpenStack - components, use cases, how to deploy
>> at home, etc.
>>
>> Other topic is system monitoring and tuning. sar vs nmon vs collectl,
>> and the various tuning packages out there (tuned, tuned-ubuntu, etc).
>>
>> Any preferences from the group?
>>
>>   - wesley
>>
>>
> In a word - "Yes!"   Given our disparate storage situation where I work
> (not to mention my home...), I'd love to see the OpenStack stuff.
>
> As RHEL7 rolls out, I'll want to hear about transitioning from 5 to 6 to
> 7.  We use CentOS and have a little more struggle with our CentOS 6
> installs versus the 5s.  This is mostly due to our hanging on to earlier
> packages / reluctance to upgrade applications.
>
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Re: "RedHat" at phreakNIC; was Re: [nlug] July Topic?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Nice, thanks :)

I'll definitely pass along the PhreakNIC info to any nearby Red Hatters as
it gets closer.


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> On 06/13/2014 10:55 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote:
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>> Hi Howard,
>>
>> Regarding a preso, maybe it could be something at PhreakNIC? I'm
>> guessing not everyone would necessarily want to hear about something so
>> vendor-specific for a monthly meeting, so a PhreakNIC spot could be make
>> more sense?
>>
>>
> A:  do not worry about waving the RedHat flag at NLUG.  You represent your
> employers with class and we appreciate your contributions.
>
> B:  any and all presentations you would care to make at phreakNIC are
> welcome and encouraged.  I'll be happy to help.  Truth is, I've made more
> sales at phreakNIC than most other "trade shows."  I don't know how many
> other RedHat souls might be available at Halloween but by all means invite
> them  :)
>
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Re: "RedHat" at phreakNIC; was Re: [nlug] July Topic?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Howards, thanks for the clarification. Yes, I'm planning on coming as a
member of NLUG, nothing more. I'll certainly spread the word to other RH
people in the area to come as attendees, but that's about all I can do from
here :)

What about a Jeopardy style game on Linux topics - command syntax, history,
scripting, etc? Something I certainly couldn't win (I still have to man ln
every damn time to get the order right) but would be happy to help put it
together.


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> On 06/13/2014 01:23 PM, Pope jonnyX wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Vendors, sponsors & generally sellin' stuff: You need to rent "exhibit
>> space" from the hotel via PhreakNIC. Booths & "table tops" (ie - folding
>> tables with your stuff on' em) are available at reasonable rates; we'll
>> charge you exactly what the hotel charges us (which is in the $35 to $80
>> per day range, depending on what you want, and half that price for Sunday).
>> Any sponsors who throw a big enough check at PhreakNIC will of course get
>> their exhibit space fees and membership badges comped. Contact me offlist
>> if you want more info.
>>
>
> I seriously doubt that we're talking about a proper RedHat booth at
> phreakNIC.  If Wesley has a few colleagues come along to contribute to NLUG
> proceedings, we *might* get them interested in a larger presence in the
> future but I doubt it.
>
>
>
>> So, NLUG President, VP, and members - what's your plan?
>>
>> ~~jonnyX/Dru
>>
>
> Not trying to speak for anybody but me, we gotta find ways to engage
> people.  Sitting at a table offering to install linux hasn't had much
> traction for several years now.
>
>
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[nlug] Tuesday's Talk

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hi everyone,

Not sure if I ever shared this to the whole list, but on Tuesday night I'll
be talking about OpenStack, a "collection of open source software for
building private and public clouds."

thanks,
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Re: [nlug] Tuesday's Talk

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

heh, can do :)


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> On 07/05/2014 01:56 PM, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Not sure if I ever shared this to the whole list, but on Tuesday night
>> I'll be talking about OpenStack, a "collection of open source software
>> for building private and public clouds."
>>
>> thanks,
>> wesley
>>
>
> Go light on the meteorological metaphors but could you include a slide or
> two as to the "anatomies" of typical clouds.  I realize this is not a
> one-size-fits-all kind of thing.
>
> Howard
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Re: [nlug] lpoptions question, maybe????

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Have you tried setting tabs differently? I wonder if lp picks up whatever
the terminal settings are.

You can do tabs -8 to reset to "standard" and see if that helps? But I
haven't heard of any differences in tabs between 5 & 6

I could be way, way off on the above though :)


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> I've posted a number of transition issues we encounter going from CentOS 5
> to CentOS 6.  Today's question is another such niggle.
>
> Given - sourcefile.ext is a text file that is submitted to a compile
> process.
> - someprint is a printer defined in cups
>
> If we lp -d someprint sourcefile.ext on the CentOS 5 system, the tab
> characters cause 7 spaces in the printed text.  When we lp -d someprint
> sourcefile.ext on the CentOS 6 system, only 1 space appears in the printed
> text.
>
> If we a2ps -P someprint sourcefile.ext on the CentOS system, the tabs
> produce 7 spaces in the printed text.  The CentOS 5 system gives us a
> segmentation fault on a2ps, but that is an anomaly of that particular
> system previously discussed here.
>
> I've looked at lpoptions and cups documentation and am not finding clues
> as to where one might control the "throw weight" of the tab character.
> Anybody got a pointer?
>
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Re: [nlug] lpoptions question, maybe????

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hmmmis it any tab, or just the first one on a line?


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Howard White  wrote:

> On 07/08/2014 11:47 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote:
>
>> Have you tried setting tabs differently? I wonder if lp picks up
>> whatever the terminal settings are.
>>
>> You can do tabs -8 to reset to "standard" and see if that helps? But I
>> haven't heard of any differences in tabs between 5 & 6
>>
>> I could be way, way off on the above though :)
>>
>>
> Thanks for thinking of the simple things to try first.  Were the above the
> case, I would expect cat sourcefile.ext to be different.  I get the same
> output to the screen when I cat this file.
>
>
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Re: [nlug] lpoptions question, maybe????

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

I am out of ideas :(


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Howard White  wrote:

> On 07/08/2014 11:51 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote:
>
>> Hmmmis it any tab, or just the first one on a line?
>>
>>
> Any tab.
>
> Just tried on a different printer from CentOS 6.  Got the same single
> space for tab; the problem is not printer specific.
>
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Re: [nlug] ~!@#$%^& CentOS 6.5!!; was Re: PXE install from CentOS 6 instead of CentOS 5

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not to go too far into the weeds, but I'm not sure I agree with "puppet is
for people that can't rsync" and while I get the gist of that statement,
having a standard toolkit (puppet, chef, whathaveyou) scales much better.
It's the "who will run our shit if you get hit by a bus" situation. or the
"let's not have to spend a month's salary bringing the new guy up to speed
on our specialized tools" - just hire someone who already knows puppet or
whatever.







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> On 7/15/14 3:56 PM, Howard White wrote:
>
>> On 07/15/2014 02:51 PM, Kent Perrier wrote:
>>
>>> Have you looked at installing cobbler and letting that take care of the
>>> details?
>>>
>>> Just wondering.
>>>
>>>
>> In the best of all worlds, I would have [ puppet | chef | spacewalk |
>> cobbler | wtf ].  I'm a one-handed-wallpaper-hanger here...
>>
>
> I found that puppet is for people that can't rsync. I spent part
> of a year migrating to puppet, and found that it is easier for me to simply
> write in bash, instead of wrapping bash inside of Puppet's format (pulling
> all my hair out wondering where the nice logs went). I also found that the
> installation requirements to get puppet running on EL6 dwarfs the
> requirements to get our application running - bash and the gnu tools are
> already installed.
>
> I'm also missing system-config-netboot and
> system-config-kickstart. I usually assemble the tftpboot directories
> manually. I haven't setup a proper pxe install environment in a while,
> though I do one-offs for various embedded systems all the time.
>
> I work in a large environment in EC2. bash works just fine for
> installation, configuration, and testing, before activation/go-live.
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Re: Standard implementation engines; was Re: [nlug] ~!@#$%^& PXE install

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Yeah it's a tough call. You mentioned that you don't do this very often,
but when you DO have to setup new systems, you also said that the scripts
are out of date almost immediately. So now, every time you provision a new
set of boxes, you have to also manage a code base.

Payroll was always the biggest expense at the smaller companies where I've
worked, and it was easy to push for better tools when I could say "Look, I
know this larger one-time expense hurts, but it pays back in 3,4,12 months
whatever and after that we're saving money".




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> On 07/15/2014 03:16 PM, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote:
>
>> not to go too far into the weeds, but I'm not sure I agree with "puppet
>> is for people that can't rsync" and while I get the gist of that
>> statement, having a standard toolkit (puppet, chef, whathaveyou) scales
>> much better. It's the "who will run our shit if you get hit by a bus"
>> situation. or the "let's not have to spend a month's salary bringing the
>> new guy up to speed on our specialized tools" - just hire someone who
>> already knows puppet or whatever.
>>
>>
> But you see, gentlemen, I am smack dab in the middle of that debate and I
> can make the case for both sides.
>
> Use case problem number one - if we were setting up three new servers a
> week, we could justify more time in two ways:  an implementation engine
> such as puppet and more replication by copying vm guests or imaging from
> clonezilla (for a bare metal server).  Our volume is low enough that I
> can't justify much of that effort.  Trust me, I clone servers whenever
> possible.
>
> Our current toolkit is that set of PXE boots, kickstarts and bash scripts.
>  Those scripts get out of date and broken in a hurry.  We have quite a,
> u, collection of packages from all over the place.  We would benefit
> from replacing our existing scripts with a more visible tool.
>
> Howard
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Re: [nlug] What's your favorite...

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

inkjet or laser? do you have a preference?


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Howard White  wrote:

> We've all deployed umpteen gazillion printers over the years.
>
> I've gotten kinda bummed out on the market leader - HP.  The single digit
> HP LaserJets were tanks (the LJ 4si/Mx was awesome) but the 4 digit units
> have issues.  HP struggles to distinguish themselves from their own PCL by
> layering on other crap.
>
> So what is your current recommendation for a monochrome, wired network
> (not wifi) workgroup printer??  HP, Samsung, Canon, Brother (cough, cough),
> Lexmark (the suggestion of which might get me shot here), Xerox.  The list
> goes on and on.
>
> Not interested in multifunction.  Just more things to break.
>
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Re: [nlug] SplunkLive Nashville

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You can make both events (that's my goal anyway) - the splunk workshops are
over by 3:30 and then happy hour. So plenty of time to enjoy the f&b and
then make it to NLUG!


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> On 09/05/2014 10:52 AM, Allen Minix wrote:
>
>> I don't know how many of you use Splunk, (if you don't, you're missing
>> out) but it occurred to me that I haven't seen anyone mention the
>> upcoming event in Nashville.  They're having a SplunkLive event on
>> Tuesday 9 Sep 2014 with some good presentations.  Thought some of you
>> might be interested.
>>
>> http://live.splunk.com/nashville
>>
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>>
> You realize, Allen, that Tuesday, 9 Sep 2014 at 6PM is the next NLUG
> meeting at Vanderbilt MRB III 1220 where Dave Manginelli is presenting...
>
> Howard
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Re: [nlug] PHP versions

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

May be worthwhile to look at openshift

https://developers.openshift.com/en/php-overview.html

 - wesley



On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Perkins, Jerry  wrote:

>  On 09/22/2014 03:38 PM, Bruce W. Martin wrote:
>
> I have a server running CentOS 5.10 that we use as a test server for our web 
> site.
> The web development team have asked for PHP to be upgraded to version 5.3. 
> Since it was available in the CentOS 5.10 repository I was able to oblige. 
> Later they are asking that PHP to be updated to 5.5. This is not available in 
> the CentOS 5.10 repository or in the CentoOS 6.5 repository. The changes in 
> CentOS 7.0 are so fundamentally different that I am just now looking and 
> trying to figure out what I have to learn and unlearn to start moving in that 
> direction so I have not even looked at what is available there. Looking at 
> the php.net site it looks like they have stable versions of PHP 5.3.29, 
> 5.4.33, 5.5.17 and 5.6.0. They state that 5.3.29 is the last release in the 
> 5.3 series yet even CentOS 6.5 shows php.x86_64 5.3.3-27.el6_5.1 as the 
> latest version. Is it reasonable for me to step outside of what is available 
> I the repository and install a newer version. Is it likely to play well with 
> apache 2.2.3-87 and mysql 5.5.37-1? I have 3 dozen servers and about 300 
> desktops to d
> eal with so it is not like I am overloaded by what appear to be the World 
> Class Standards of IT today but it just seems like asking for trouble to try 
> accommodate this when Red Hat/CentOS have not yet down so.
>
> What do you think?
> Or should I get a block of cheese to go with this email?
>
> Bruce
>
>
> I believe that my hosting service runs CentOS.   Default PHP is 5.3.28.
>But there is an application in the cPanel called *nPHPSelector* where
> you can change the version of PHP used by directory.
>This is what it states:
>
>   PHP Selector plugin allows user to select preferred PHP version per
> directory on the same domain. You can select the available PHP versions
> from the drop down menu.
>
> eg: You need PHP version 5.2 on /home/perkinsn/public_html , you need to
> select public_html from the following list and select 5.2 from the drop
> down menu.
>
> Same way, PHP version 5.4 on /home/perkinsn/public_html/wp, you need to
> select public_html/wp from the following list and select 5.4 from the drop
> down menu.
>
>It gives you the choice to *select 5.2, 5.3 (default), 5.4 or 5.5*.
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Re: [nlug] SSH login with publickey stopped working

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"We have another server that's identical except it's a physical machine,
it's working perfectly."

So what is working on that machine? is that the machine you can connect to
without issue, or is that the machine where the authorized_keys live and
you can ssh out of that box to others without a password?

Have you tried (when you put keys back in the authorized_keys file)
re-arranging their order?

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Curt Lundgren  wrote:

> File and directory ownership and permissions are correct.
>
> Normally I create (and expand, if necessary) the authorized_keys file by
> doing a cat on the existing file, if any, and the new key file.  This
> doesn't add newlines, and none of these files have ever seen a Windows
> system.  I did a hex dump of the current file; there's a single newline at
> the end of each key.
>
> What has me confused is that I can copy any of the key files as
> authorized_keys and login works perfectly.  Cat two or more of them
> together, it refuses to work.
>
> A couple of GSSAPI options were on; I turned them off and restarted sshd.
> Still no joy.
>
> Thanks for the tips and hints!
>
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Tilghman Lesher 
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Curt Lundgren  wrote:
>> > All was well in Linux-land until yesterday when I added another host
>> key to
>> > .ssh/authorized_keys.  It's running CentOS 6.5, a VM under VMware.
>> >
>> > .ssh/ is owned by root:root.  Its files are similarly owned and both
>> > authorized_keys and known_hosts have 600 permissions.
>>
>> You're ssh'ing as root?  The files and directory should be owned by
>> the same user as you're ssh'ing as.  Also, did you become root with
>> 'sudo -s', 'sudo su -', or another command that institutes the
>> environment?  'sudo su' doesn't, which may mess up things like that.
>>
>> > OpenSSH is version 5.3p1.
>> >
>> > After yesterday I can use a key file from any host, just one host, and
>> it
>> > works perfectly.  Cat together the keys from two or more hosts and it
>> asks
>> > for a password.
>>
>> I would explicitly check for aberrant newlines in the file.  If you're
>> looking at the file with xterm, most editors will naturally resize,
>> when you vary the width of the terminal.  Look for lines that aren't
>> wrapping continuously.  All individual keys should be on a single
>> line.  I've had this problem where I manually copied a key with the
>> mouse, and the editor inserted a newline in the middle of a key.
>>
>> Also check for a Windows newline (\r) in any of the files.  You can
>> remove them with:  tr -d '\015' newfile
>>
>> > I don't have hair to tear out, does anyone have ideas what might be
>> going
>> > on?  We have another server that's identical except it's a physical
>> machine,
>> > it's working perfectly.
>>
>> My general inclination is that you've got a bad character in one of
>> the files, and as soon as ssh sees that, it aborts parsing.
>>
>> One last thing to check is that you have Kerberos and GSSAPI
>> authentication turned off in /etc/ssh/sshd_config.  This is a Red Hat
>> derived platform, and they have a habit of turning alternate
>> authentication systems on, which may mess with authorized_keys
>> authentication.
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Re: [nlug] Tuesday's Talk

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Every second Tuesday of the month.

http://nlug.wikispot.org/

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Floyd Mullins 
wrote:

> Hello there,
>
> Would like to know when are the scheduled meetings?
>
> Thanks
> Floyd Mullins
>
>
>
> Floyd Mullins
>
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Amber Adams <
> amberadams.nashvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> FYI, here is the info on Tuesday's talk:
>>
>> http://www.meetup.com/Nashville-Linux-Users-Group/events/199897502/
>>
>> I hope to see a lot of you there!
>>
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Re: [nlug] Install New Host OS, Keeping VM

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Where do you keep the actual VM image? You'll want to back that up as well.
You can examine the xml to find that path.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Paul Boniol  wrote:

> I know probably very simple, but somehow I'm not finding any instructions
> online.
>
> In my case the VM only runs when I happen to need to run the VM (i.e. when
> I have to do Windows programs) so there is no issue with doing this on a
> running VM.
>
> I want to install an updated host OS (I think it would be best to install
> rather than upgrade yet again), and keep the KVM virtual host.  (Planning
> to keep /home but probably wiping everything else.)
>
> I see the files in /home/kvm/images/win7/
>
> I did a
> virsh dumpxml win7 > win7.xml
> to get the current xml for how it is set up.
>
> Is there anything else I need to do/save?  How do I "get it back" after
> installing the new Linux host OS?
>
> I know instructions must be out there, but I've looked for hours but I
> haven't found anything specifically addressing this.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [nlug] Install New Host OS, Keeping VM

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Oh wait, nm - I see - looks like you WILL be keeping that out of /home - so
that's good. Sorry for the unnecessary!



On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun 
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> Where do you keep the actual VM image? You'll want to back that up as
> well. You can examine the xml to find that path.
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Paul Boniol 
> wrote:
>
>> I know probably very simple, but somehow I'm not finding any instructions
>> online.
>>
>> In my case the VM only runs when I happen to need to run the VM (i.e.
>> when I have to do Windows programs) so there is no issue with doing this on
>> a running VM.
>>
>> I want to install an updated host OS (I think it would be best to install
>> rather than upgrade yet again), and keep the KVM virtual host.  (Planning
>> to keep /home but probably wiping everything else.)
>>
>> I see the files in /home/kvm/images/win7/
>>
>> I did a
>> virsh dumpxml win7 > win7.xml
>> to get the current xml for how it is set up.
>>
>> Is there anything else I need to do/save?  How do I "get it back" after
>> installing the new Linux host OS?
>>
>> I know instructions must be out there, but I've looked for hours but I
>> haven't found anything specifically addressing this.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Paul
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Re: [nlug] Install New Host OS, Keeping VM

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http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/After_import_a_guest_from_an_existing_disk_image_using_virt-install%2C_the_guest_starting_stalls_with_%22No_boot_device%22
has the command for re-importing an existing imagewill you have a
chance to test this before you do the reinstall?

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun 
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> Oh wait, nm - I see - looks like you WILL be keeping that out of /home -
> so that's good. Sorry for the unnecessary!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun 
> wrote:
>
>> Where do you keep the actual VM image? You'll want to back that up as
>> well. You can examine the xml to find that path.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Paul Boniol 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know probably very simple, but somehow I'm not finding any
>>> instructions online.
>>>
>>> In my case the VM only runs when I happen to need to run the VM (i.e.
>>> when I have to do Windows programs) so there is no issue with doing this on
>>> a running VM.
>>>
>>> I want to install an updated host OS (I think it would be best to
>>> install rather than upgrade yet again), and keep the KVM virtual host.
>>>  (Planning to keep /home but probably wiping everything else.)
>>>
>>> I see the files in /home/kvm/images/win7/
>>>
>>> I did a
>>> virsh dumpxml win7 > win7.xml
>>> to get the current xml for how it is set up.
>>>
>>> Is there anything else I need to do/save?  How do I "get it back" after
>>> installing the new Linux host OS?
>>>
>>> I know instructions must be out there, but I've looked for hours but I
>>> haven't found anything specifically addressing this.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Paul
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Re: [nlug] local establishment being extorted with DDOS

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Fail2ban and call the fbi
On Feb 17, 2015 7:41 PM, "Howard White"  wrote:

> Okay intrepid network magi,
>
> An acquaintance of mine is being bombarded with a DDOS and being told that
> for $ the problem will go away.  Said acquaintance is manually blocking
> IPs and IP ranges as they make themselves visible but they are still
> overwhelmed.
>
> My response, since extortion is involved, is to call the FBI.
>
> Would anyone else have suggestions?
>
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Re: [nlug] Fwd: wikispot.org is shutting down April 1st

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+1 to free solutions.

However, as Amber said, if we are going to have expenses (which it appears
we already have wrt meetup and there could be more) I would see it as
appropriate to spread that cost around somehow. That does get potentially
complicated (is there a bank account? would one have to be setup? I gather
we have a treasurer position but no idea what the funds situation looks
like) but the extra work seems to be worth it to keep everything
transparent.



On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Csaba Toth  wrote:

> Talking about github. If the website is static, you can host it as like
> nlug.github.io for $0
> On Mar 1, 2015 8:39 AM, "Bucky 'Igneous' Wolfe" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey dudes, please pardon the top-posting. I just re-joined the mailing
>> list to participate in this discussion, and I do not have a real mail
>> client.
>>
>> Just to test the water, what do you guys think about starting up a github
>> organization for NLUG? Anyone with a github account would be able to join,
>> it'd be an open group. We'd need a lot of owners, so they could add new
>> users, but I don't think there's any shortage of people on this mailing
>> list that know how to use git, or would have a problem maintaining that
>> group.
>>
>> Once we have an org, we could host a static website using github pages.
>> This could just be some raw html that we've written ourselves, or we could
>> use a static-site generator like Jekyll, and manage the site as a series of
>> text files and templates (take a look at
>> https://github.com/igneous/lordofthephon.es to see what that would look
>> like). It would still be something that everyone could contribute to, like
>> a wiki, but we'd have a bit more control over it. Also, you can rest
>> assured that github isn't going anywhere. It's also worth mentioning that
>> we could still keep the nlug.org domain, just forward the apex to a
>> 'www' cname, and point www.nlug.org -> nashville-lug.github.io.
>>
>> We could also create a few repos for group nlug projects. if anyone wants
>> to work together as a group on other stuff (perhaps a bot for our irc
>> channel?). I notice that Gerdesas hasn't been keeping his bot around :P
>>
>> Best,
>>   Igneous
>>
>> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 9:41:38 PM UTC-6, dink wrote:
>>>
>>> This would be a good time to have a Nlug steering committee meeting.
>>> I've had an idea for a new Nlug website, but very little time to build it.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2015, at 7:59 PM, Amber Adams 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 27, 2015, Kevin Eldridge  wrote:
>>>
 Hello Nashville Linux Users Group,

 Our hosting provider is scheduled to shut down on April 1st, giving you
 almost a month to find a new host for the nlug.wikispot.org data. This
 should not be an issue. If you need assistance with this, please let me
 know, I will try to help as best I can.

 I sent Philip Neustrom a reply thanking for allowing us to have our
 data on his server.

 Thank you very much,

 Kevin Eldridge


>>> Thank you for the heads up and giving Philip our gratitude, Kevin.
>>>
>>> Hey LUG'ers, does anyone want to volunteer some wiki hosting?
>>> Alternatively, we might consider forming an NLUG group on Github and taking
>>> advantage of their free Web hosting for our info page. What do y'all think?
>>>
>>> Amber Adams
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Re: [nlug] Local hosting providers?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Not sure if they offer what you want, but Silex (http://silexdata.com/) had
an event at Corsair I attended a few weeks ago and they seem sharp.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) 
wrote:

> WIsh I could help you. I work for a web hosting provider in Ashburn,
> Virginia. I could get you in touch with an account manager if you like.
>
> www.blackmesh.com
>
> " 'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured,
> the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all
> irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and
> warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we’re all
> damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG
> episode "The Drumhead"
> - Alex Smith
> - Huntsville, Alabama metropolitan area USA
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Jack Coats  wrote:
>
>> I am starting to look for a new low cost hosting provider.  Any
>> suggestions, preferably locally based?
>> My current home site is based in Texas.  After 10 years possibly I need
>> to move it to TN.
>>
>> ><> ... Jack
>>
>> "Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart"... Colossians 3:23
>> "Anyone who has never made a mistake, has never tried anything new." -
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Re: [nlug] Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

A bit of a convoluted route, but I see at
http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=R260736
that it is a broadcom 4322 and they do provide drivers from source at
http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php

But I don't run ubuntu so I can't say for sure if it is a viable solution :(

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> My best luck has been, plug it into a wired connection to start with.
> Then go turn on the 'proprietary drivers', and update your repositories
> again with
>
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get upgrade
>
> then you can probably either manually enable the right drivers or it will
> be recognized automatically.
>
> Now disconnect your wired connection, configure your wireless, and have
> fun!
>
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Grant Devinney 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone, I installed Ubuntu on my old dell laptop and the
>> proprietary drivers aren't supported by ubuntu. I was wondering if anyone
>> had a work around? The wireless nic is "Broadcom Corporation: Wireless 1510
>> Wireless-N WLAN Mini-Card"
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Re: [nlug] Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Just re-read your post and I realized you may have tried those already.
Have you checked out
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx ?

On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Wesley Duffee-Braun 
wrote:

> A bit of a convoluted route, but I see at
> http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=R260736
> that it is a broadcom 4322 and they do provide drivers from source at
> http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
>
> But I don't run ubuntu so I can't say for sure if it is a viable solution
> :(
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Jack Coats  wrote:
>
>> My best luck has been, plug it into a wired connection to start with.
>> Then go turn on the 'proprietary drivers', and update your repositories
>> again with
>>
>> sudo apt-get update
>> sudo apt-get upgrade
>>
>> then you can probably either manually enable the right drivers or it will
>> be recognized automatically.
>>
>> Now disconnect your wired connection, configure your wireless, and have
>> fun!
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Grant Devinney 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey everyone, I installed Ubuntu on my old dell laptop and the
>>> proprietary drivers aren't supported by ubuntu. I was wondering if anyone
>>> had a work around? The wireless nic is "Broadcom Corporation: Wireless 1510
>>> Wireless-N WLAN Mini-Card"
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Re: [nlug] Fwd: Invitation: Using the Unshare Utility by Wesley Duffee-Braun

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Yep!
On May 12, 2015 11:30 AM, "Paul Boniol"  wrote:

> This talk sounds interesting to me, but I have a family event tonight that
> I must attend.  Will the slides be posted?
>
> Paul
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:42 PM, andrew mcelroy 
> wrote:
>
>> The May meeting topic is announced. Thank you Wesley.
>>
>> Also note that I will literally be touching down at BNA airport at 6:00pm
>> I would suggest we do the talk first and then the election in the last 30
>> minutes.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Nashville Linux Users Group 
>> Date: Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:38 PM
>> Subject: Invitation: Using the Unshare Utility by Wesley Duffee-Braun
>> To: sophri...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>  [image: Meetup] <http://www.meetup.com/t/ea2_1/>
>>
>>New Meetup
>> Using the Unshare Utility by Wesley Duffee-Braun
>> <http://www.meetup.com/__ms10749993/Nashville-Linux-Users-Group/events/221198967/t/ea2_grp/?rv=ea2&_af=event&_af_eid=221198967&expires=1430329135994&sig=d99a0e27a9c12d1ee61f7d11c616e29931584c55>
>> Nashville Linux Users Group
>>  Added by Andrew McElroy
>>   Tuesday, May 12, 2015
>> 6:00 PM
>>  Vanderbilt Campus MRB-III 1220
>> Vanderbilt Campus MRB-III 1220
>> Nashville, TN
>>I'm going
>> Change your RSVP
>> <http://www.meetup.com/Nashville-Linux-Users-Group/events/221198967/t/ea2_upd/?rv=ea2>
>>   Wesley Duffee-Braun works at Redhat and will be talking about Using
>> the Unshare Utility Here is his blurb. Blurb: "Learn how to create and
>> manage network, mounts and other namespaces using the unshare utility.
>> Unshare allows a user to "run ...
>> Learn more
>> <http://www.meetup.com/Nashville-Linux-Users-Group/events/221198967/t/ea2_grp/?rv=ea2>
>>
>>  Never miss a last-minute change. Get the app.
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Re: [nlug] MythTV vs Reboot

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Was the message displayed "A power failure, I can forgive things not being
exactly right.  A reboot command should have shut things down nicely and
not had any issues." or is that your text?

Sorry if my reading-fu is weak :D

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 3:04 AM, Paul Boniol  wrote:

> I had a power failure before and my MythTV box went down un-gracefully.
> Several recordings that should have happened, after powering back on,
> displayed:
> "This showing was recorded but was deleted before recording was completed".
>
> Tonight I needed to reboot, so I did a sudo /sbin/reboot about 11 pm.  A
> recording was scheduled for midnight.  When I checked a little while ago,
> it also displayed this message...
>
> A power failure, I can forgive things not being exactly right.  A reboot
> command should have shut things down nicely and not had any issues.(?)
>
> My Google Fu is weak.  I'm not finding anything related.
>
> Last time I did go into the database last time and found something that
> might be related.  Unfortunately I didn't write it down.  (Field called
> Future maybe?  And had false values for recordings that are upcoming in the
> near future?)
>
> Is there something special I need to do (or set it to auto-do) at reboot?
>  (I would say upon shutdown, but power failures, etc can happen that aren't
> expected.)
>
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Re: [nlug] MythTV vs Reboot

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Ohhh gotcha. Reading comprehension fail :)

Weird behavior indeed. Has anything recorded successfully since the reboot?



On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Paul Boniol  wrote:

> There was no message displayed concerning the power failure or a reboot
> command.  That was just my thoughts.  Power failure, database, some
> inconsistent state (though why it would flip one or more bits on programs
> whose time hasn't come yet, so should not have even thought of flipping
> bits yet...).  And yes, why would a reboot command do this?
>
> I had a brief thought of time zones.  If the system clock is local time,
> and Myth is using UTC, and it briefly thought local was UTC in some startup
> script... but that doesn't make a sense either as we are behind UTC not
> ahead of UTC.
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun 
> wrote:
>
>> Was the message displayed "A power failure, I can forgive things not
>> being exactly right.  A reboot command should have shut things down nicely
>> and not had any issues." or is that your text?
>>
>> Sorry if my reading-fu is weak :D
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 3:04 AM, Paul Boniol 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I had a power failure before and my MythTV box went down un-gracefully.
>>> Several recordings that should have happened, after powering back on,
>>> displayed:
>>> "This showing was recorded but was deleted before recording was
>>> completed".
>>>
>>> Tonight I needed to reboot, so I did a sudo /sbin/reboot about 11 pm.  A
>>> recording was scheduled for midnight.  When I checked a little while ago,
>>> it also displayed this message...
>>>
>>> A power failure, I can forgive things not being exactly right.  A reboot
>>> command should have shut things down nicely and not had any issues.(?)
>>>
>>> My Google Fu is weak.  I'm not finding anything related.
>>>
>>> Last time I did go into the database last time and found something that
>>> might be related.  Unfortunately I didn't write it down.  (Field called
>>> Future maybe?  And had false values for recordings that are upcoming in the
>>> near future?)
>>>
>>> Is there something special I need to do (or set it to auto-do) at
>>> reboot?  (I would say upon shutdown, but power failures, etc can happen
>>> that aren't expected.)
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[nlug] Free Event Oct 6: Splunk Live Registration Open

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Hello all,

Check out http://live.splunk.com/Nashville - I went a couple of years ago
(and am registered for this one), it's a great event with awesome use cases
and stories. Plus free lunch, t-shirt and happy hour.

I can't make the meeting tonight - hope to see everyone next month at
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Re: [nlug] calling database admins - (WAN / VPN) Replacement for old database app? (LAMP stack?)

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

One thing that hasn't been addressed (I don't think) is why there is a
second system (remote at that) being added to the mix. In terms of a VPN,
yes - that's just a tunnel to your infrastructure created as needed to a
system can connect securely over otherwise non-secure networks. Once a VPN
is established, then it's just like the remote system is inside the
datacenter. Nothing special there, except that since it is part of the spec
it indicates to me that someone is looking to backup/access/modify the
database from multiple locations?

I see two items that need to be resolved

 - Getting the database out of Lotus Approach and into mysql. Seems like
there is some good information out there -
http://forums.devshed.com/mysql-help-4/import-lotus-approach-mysql-169506.html
- has a couple of gotchas people have run into before. But it seems do-able
without too much hassle.

 - Providing remote access to and sync of the database. Do you really need
a VPN connection to sync the database? What about a mysql instance hosted
somewhere a la AWS? Or, I agree with Howard, it's also worth exploring a
CRM in this scenario - there are companies that provide this service, or
you can host them in house with a web interface that can be accessed
remotely.

The downside to continuing to host everything yourself is that you may be
spending more time and resources hosting the database (and providing access
to the instance in a secure fashion) when compared to letting
someone/somewhere else do the hard work.

It sounds like there are a couple of goals in play, and while the goal of
moving off Approach is well-defined, the remote access goal needs more
clarification for a good answer. Please write back with additional info and
we'll dig in further!



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> Michael,
>
> I don't mean to be rude but I would think that the mailing label function
> you describe would be available as a turnkey package.  That application has
> been solved many years and times over.  Or let me spin this another way -
> do you need to expand functionality to use a tool like a Customer Resource
> Management (CRM) package?  There are several open source CRM tools
> (SugarCRM for instance) that might do multiple jobs for your organization.
>
> At first blush, your request sounds like re-inventing the wheel.
>
> Howard
>
> On 09/13/2015 04:04 AM, Michael L wrote:
>
>> The database app runs a mailing list for DVD's.  And I will say that our
>> current (soon to be former?) security strategy is to leave the single
>> machine completely off the internet.  I guess that strategy will have to
>> be abandoned now to connect to a VPN?  I understand the 'V' in VPN to
>> mean virtually private as opposed to actually private or virustually
>> private if you have a virus on one of the machines.  Am I correct on that?
>>M
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[nlug] Job opportunities

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hello,

A contact of mine at CHS has asked me to put feelers out for anyone who
would be interested in

   - Data Modeler:
   http://www.careershealthcare.com/job/Tennessee/CHS-Corporate/1540699
   - ETL Developer:
   http://www.careershealthcare.com/job/Tennessee/CHS-Corporate/1552924

If either of those are appealing to you (or sound like something you would
like to do even if you don't have the exact qualifications), please get in
touch with me via email and we'll talk!

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Re: [nlug] calling database admins - (WAN / VPN) Replacement for old database app? (LAMP stack?)

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hi Michael,

It sounds like the database itself doesn't have to be synced anywhere,
there is just a need for remote client access. That's going to be tough to
do with the policy of keeping the DB physically isolated :) So yes, that
security policy will probably have to go if the database user has the pull
to force a remote access setup for their needs.

When you say "database user who doesn't want to learn anything new" how do
they access the db currently? Is there a UI for Approach that they use
currently, and is that what they want to access remotely? Setting up RDP
(the windows remote desktop protocol) over VPN is a solution if they must
see the Windows XP desktop to use the database. Doing a Windows XP instance
in the cloud so everyone can have easy remote access is possible  -
cheapest I could find was http://www.colossuscloud.com/pricing.phtml which
appears to be at least $20/month.

It sounds like a rock and a hard place, and unfortunately if your DB user
is absolutely set on staying with Approach, then the option set isn't very
wide.







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> You're not rude.  I know my questions probably seem like I'm a 4 yr. old
> who doesn't know much besides 911 (but since I designed a database 17 years
> ago I must know everything about IT).  I often thought a CRM solution would
> be something for us.  One difficulty is we have a 72 yr old (baby) database
> user who doesn't want to learn anything new and in 14 years hasn't learned
> to properly use what we have and now wants access at a new location.  The
> Lotus Approach app isn't updated past WinXP.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Howard White  wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>>
>> I don't mean to be rude but I would think that the mailing label function
>> you describe would be available as a turnkey package.  That application has
>> been solved many years and times over.  Or let me spin this another way -
>> do you need to expand functionality to use a tool like a Customer Resource
>> Management (CRM) package?  There are several open source CRM tools
>> (SugarCRM for instance) that might do multiple jobs for your organization.
>>
>> At first blush, your request sounds like re-inventing the wheel.
>>
>> Howard
>>
>>
>> On 09/13/2015 04:04 AM, Michael L wrote:
>>
>>> The database app runs a mailing list for DVD's.  And I will say that our
>>> current (soon to be former?) security strategy is to leave the single
>>> machine completely off the internet.  I guess that strategy will have to
>>> be abandoned now to connect to a VPN?  I understand the 'V' in VPN to
>>> mean virtually private as opposed to actually private or virustually
>>> private if you have a virus on one of the machines.  Am I correct on
>>> that?
>>>M
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Re: [nlug] Linux server updating for dummies

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Definitely document what's been described about - backups, snaps,
separation of environments (can you have a QA environment - even just 5 kvm
VMs?), etc.

I would also share a categorization of the updates (and why they get
updated when they do) with the requestors.

 - Security: daily (or hourly if need be) for obvious reasons
 - Kernel, specific drivers, etc: do these need to be daily? What about a
weekly patch cycle unless it is critical?
 - Misc: Whenever.

Reason is, if I'm the end user, having someone daily update my systems
could be really disruptive. Having knowledge of expected maintenance
windows would be great for all involved. Not saying you don't do any of the
above wrt notifying the users, but it would be good to include that info in
the documentation.

It's also hard to know what documentation is needed without the workload of
these systems. Are they running web servers? Databases? Batch processing?
Each of those would have a different process for updates.

Hope this helps, and please elaborate more with your scenario!

 - wesley


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> On 10/24/2015 11:54 AM, xor wrote:
>
> Now all of a sudden, someone there is wanting me to document the updates
> and how the updates might affect our software before I apply them, etc
> etc.  Tell me if I am wrong, but I have explained to them this is not a
> reasonable request.  However, one person in particular with a big business
> mainframe mentality can be very stubborn about things such as this.  So I
> could use a little help.
>
>
>A lot of the documentation may already be in the log files, i.e.
> /var/log/dpkg.log.xxx.   Also in the individual application documentation.
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Re: [nlug] Why do new releases have to be so frustrating

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Good morning ;)

When you say "address two NICs"  do you mean assign static IP, gateway,
routes, etc to each NIC? What are your outputs for 'ip a'  and 'nmcli -p d'
?

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> Okay, I admit to being lazy.  I am on the course of creating some tools
> for phreakNIC next weekend.  Like a fool, I have chosen to use CentOS 7 as
> one platform in part as self-education.  I am having to learn more than I
> wish to just to accomplish simple things.
>
> Ergo - add a second NIC to CentOS 7 minimal.  Server is going to provide
> an Installfest private network with a firewall to the (gasp) phreakNIC
> environment.  Need two NICs.  Have two NICs.  lspci sees two NICs.  May I
> address two NICs with nmcli, nmtui or ifconfig (yes, I added the net-tools
> package)???   No.
>
> Is my google-foo good enough to find an example?  By my research, people
> only run CentOS 7 in VMware or VirtualBox.  Really?
>
> What gives?
>
> Howard
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Re: [nlug] Why do new releases have to be so frustrating

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Oh and 'nmcli -p g'

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun 
wrote:

> Good morning ;)
>
> When you say "address two NICs"  do you mean assign static IP, gateway,
> routes, etc to each NIC? What are your outputs for 'ip a'  and 'nmcli -p d'
> ?
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Howard White  wrote:
>
>> Okay, I admit to being lazy.  I am on the course of creating some tools
>> for phreakNIC next weekend.  Like a fool, I have chosen to use CentOS 7 as
>> one platform in part as self-education.  I am having to learn more than I
>> wish to just to accomplish simple things.
>>
>> Ergo - add a second NIC to CentOS 7 minimal.  Server is going to provide
>> an Installfest private network with a firewall to the (gasp) phreakNIC
>> environment.  Need two NICs.  Have two NICs.  lspci sees two NICs.  May I
>> address two NICs with nmcli, nmtui or ifconfig (yes, I added the net-tools
>> package)???   No.
>>
>> Is my google-foo good enough to find an example?  By my research, people
>> only run CentOS 7 in VMware or VirtualBox.  Really?
>>
>> What gives?
>>
>> Howard
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Re: [nlug] Why do new releases have to be so frustrating

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

ok cool, cool. Wondering how the Intel NIC is defined. What's the
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts entry for it? Go on and send over in the
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/enp2s0 too.

Do you have the mac address for the Intel NIC handy?

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> Many thanks for the response, Wesley.  I know I am missing a trivial
> detail.
>
> From the beginning, here are the relevant items from lspci:
> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02)  # this
> interface is currently working, configured DHCP, ultimately static, local
> network
>
> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro
> 100 (rev 02)  # this interface is currently not responding, ultimately
> configured DHCP to whatever external network.  Jiggery Pokery required to
> use as gateway to "the big bad world."
>
> [root@localhost ~]# ip a
> 1: lo:  mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
> link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
> inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
>valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> inet6 ::1/128 scope host
>valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> 2: enp2s0:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
> state UP qlen 1000
> link/ether e0:cb:4e:1f:35:b2 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> inet 192.168.222.152/24 brd 192.168.222.255 scope global dynamic
> enp2s0
>valid_lft 5848sec preferred_lft 5848sec
> inet6 fe80::e2cb:4eff:fe1f:35b2/64 scope link
>valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>
> [root@localhost ~]# nmcli -p d
> =
> Status of devices
> =
> DEVICE  TYPE  STATE  CONNECTION
> -
> enp2s0  ethernet  connected  Wired connection 1
> lo  loopback  unmanaged  --
>
> [root@localhost ~]# nmcli -p g
> =
> NetworkManager status
> =
> STATE  CONNECTIVITY  WIFI-HW  WIFI WWAN-HW  WWAN
> -
> connected  full  enabled  enabled  enabled  enabled
>
>
> No talkey to second NIC.  Have tried more than one, thought to be good
> NICs.
>
> Howard
>
> On 11/01/2015 10:56 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote:
>
>> Oh and 'nmcli -p g'
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun > <mailto:wduf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Good morning ;)
>>
>> When you say "address two NICs"  do you mean assign static IP,
>> gateway, routes, etc to each NIC? What are your outputs for 'ip a'
>>   and 'nmcli -p d' ?
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Howard White > <mailto:hwh...@vcch.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Okay, I admit to being lazy.  I am on the course of creating
>> some tools for phreakNIC next weekend.  Like a fool, I have
>> chosen to use CentOS 7 as one platform in part as
>> self-education.  I am having to learn more than I wish to just
>> to accomplish simple things.
>>
>> Ergo - add a second NIC to CentOS 7 minimal.  Server is going to
>> provide an Installfest private network with a firewall to the
>> (gasp) phreakNIC environment.  Need two NICs.  Have two NICs.
>> lspci sees two NICs.  May I address two NICs with nmcli, nmtui
>> or ifconfig (yes, I added the net-tools package)???   No.
>>
>> Is my google-foo good enough to find an example?  By my
>> research, people only run CentOS 7 in VMware or VirtualBox.
>> Really?
>>
>> What gives?
>>
>> Howard
>>
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Re: [nlug] Why do new releases have to be so frustrating

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hmmm. is anything in 'ls -l /sys/class/net ' that softlinks to
 /sys/devices/pci* ?

I'm thinking you'll see an entry for lo and enp2s0, but not the missing NIC
(unless we get lucky). Anyway - wherever the enp2s0 goes, follow that to
see what else is in that directory - probably something like
/sys/devices/pci\:00/\:00\:01.0/

For example, my two NICs

$ lspci  | grep Ethernet
01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82580 Gigabit Network
Connection (rev 01)
01:00.1 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82580 Gigabit Network
Connection (rev 01)

are in /sys/devices/pci\:00/\:00\:01.0/:01:00.0 and
:01:00.1 so you hopefully have entries akin to :02:00.0 and
 :05:00.0 - anything in there, specifically in (hopefully a) net
directory?

Also, anything from dmesg | grep -e eth ?

Trying to find out if maybe we just need to get the eth number of the card
and do ifconfig ethNUMBER up before network-manager starts.


On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Howard White  wrote:

> Network manager at work, I see:
>
> [root@localhost network-scripts]# ls ifcfg*
> ifcfg-lo
>
> Neither enp2s0 nor the second NIC have ifcfg files.
>
> MAC of the Intel NIC:  0060B06D61DD
>
> Howard
>
> On 11/01/2015 11:14 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote:
>
>> ok cool, cool. Wondering how the Intel NIC is defined. What's the
>> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts entry for it? Go on and send over in the
>> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/enp2s0 too.
>>
>> Do you have the mac address for the Intel NIC handy?
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Howard White > <mailto:hwh...@vcch.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Many thanks for the response, Wesley.  I know I am missing a trivial
>> detail.
>>
>>  From the beginning, here are the relevant items from lspci:
>> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
>> RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02)
>> # this interface is currently working, configured DHCP, ultimately
>> static, local network
>>
>> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9/0/1
>> Ethernet Pro 100 (rev 02)  # this interface is currently not
>> responding, ultimately configured DHCP to whatever external
>> network.  Jiggery Pokery required to use as gateway to "the big bad
>> world."
>>
>> [root@localhost ~]# ip a
>> 1: lo:  mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
>>  link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
>>  inet 127.0.0.1/8 <http://127.0.0.1/8> scope host lo
>> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>>  inet6 ::1/128 scope host
>> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>> 2: enp2s0:  mtu 1500 qdisc
>> pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000
>>  link/ether e0:cb:4e:1f:35:b2 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>  inet 192.168.222.152/24 <http://192.168.222.152/24> brd
>>
>> 192.168.222.255 scope global dynamic enp2s0
>> valid_lft 5848sec preferred_lft 5848sec
>>  inet6 fe80::e2cb:4eff:fe1f:35b2/64 scope link
>> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>>
>> [root@localhost ~]# nmcli -p d
>> =
>>  Status of devices
>> =
>> DEVICE  TYPE  STATE  CONNECTION
>> -
>> enp2s0  ethernet  connected  Wired connection 1
>> lo  loopback  unmanaged  --
>>
>> [root@localhost ~]# nmcli -p g
>> =
>>  NetworkManager status
>> =====
>> STATE  CONNECTIVITY  WIFI-HW  WIFI     WWAN-HW  WWAN
>> -
>> connected  full  enabled  enabled  enabled  enabled
>>
>>
>> No talkey to second NIC.  Have tried more than one, thought to be
>> good NICs.
>>
>> Howard
>>
>> On 11/01/2015 10:56 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote:
>>
>> Oh and 'nmcli -p g'
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun
>> mailto:wduf...@gmail.com>
>> <mailto:wduf...@gmail.com <mailto:wduf...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>  Good morning ;)
>>
>>  When you say "address two NICs"  do yo

Re: [SUCCESS] Re: [nlug] Why do new releases have to be so frustrating

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

I'm a little weirded out by eth0 getting renamed twice in dmesg.

do they NICs it come up as expected through a reboot?


On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Howard White  wrote:

> Update - after setting the MAC in ifcfg-enp5s1 to what is shown in
> ifconfig -a, I have success:
>
> [root@localhost network-scripts]# ifconfig
> enp2s0: flags=4163  mtu 1500
> inet 192.168.222.152  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast
> 192.168.222.255
> inet6 fe80::e2cb:4eff:fe1f:35b2  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20
> ether e0:cb:4e:1f:35:b2  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
> RX packets 2994  bytes 252507 (246.5 KiB)
> RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
> TX packets 1211  bytes 251506 (245.6 KiB)
> TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
>
> enp5s1: flags=4163  mtu 1500
> inet 192.168.98.151  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast
> 192.168.98.255
> inet6 fe80::2e0:4cff:feee:566b  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20
> ether 00:e0:4c:ee:56:6b  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
> RX packets 125  bytes 19661 (19.2 KiB)
> RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
> TX packets 33  bytes 3714 (3.6 KiB)
> TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
>
> lo: flags=73  mtu 65536
> inet 127.0.0.1  netmask 255.0.0.0
> inet6 ::1  prefixlen 128  scopeid 0x10
> loop  txqueuelen 0  (Local Loopback)
> RX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
> RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
> TX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
> TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
>
> Howard
>
>
> On 11/01/2015 12:43 PM, Howard White wrote:
>
>> Running the risk of changing more than one thing at a time.  Previous
>> mung I moved the Intel NIC to a different PCI slot and it subsequently
>> did not appear as an Ethernet device in lspci.  So I replaced it with a
>> RealTek NIC (MAC DB0303066320) in the slot that failed and now I have
>> entries:
>>
>> [root@localhost ~]# lspci | grep Ethernet
>> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
>> RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02)
>> 05:01.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
>> RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev 10)
>> [root@localhost ~]# ls -l /sys/class/net
>> total 0
>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 0 Nov  1 12:23 enp2s0 ->
>> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1c.5/:02:00.0/net/enp2s0
>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 0 Nov  1 12:23 enp5s1 ->
>> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1e.0/:05:01.0/net/enp5s1
>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 0 Nov  1 12:23 lo -> ../../devices/virtual/net/lo
>>
>> I whacked up a quick file
>>
>> [root@localhost network-scripts]# cat ifcfg-eth1
>> DEVICE=eth1
>> # HWADDR=00:60:B0:6D:61:DD
>> HWADDR=DB:03:03:06:63:20
>> ONBOOT=yes
>> TYPE=ethernet
>> NETMASK=255.255.255.0
>> BOOTPROTO=dhcp
>>
>> and attempted an ifup eth1
>>
>> [root@localhost network-scripts]# ifup eth1
>> Error: no device found for connection 'System eth1'.
>>
>> OH, NOW THIS IS INTERESTING  (pardon the shout):
>>
>> [root@localhost network-scripts]# dmesg | grep -e eth
>> [0.745465] r8169 :02:00.0 eth0: RTL8168c/8111c at
>> 0xc9c78000, e0:cb:4e:1f:35:b2, XID 1c4000c0 IRQ 44
>> [0.745467] r8169 :02:00.0 eth0: jumbo features [frames: 6128
>> bytes, tx checksumming: ko]
>> [0.878406] systemd-udevd[205]: renamed network interface eth0 to
>> enp2s0
>> [7.746723] 8139too :05:01.0 eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at
>> 0xc90010e4cc00, 00:e0:4c:ee:56:6b, IRQ 17
>> [7.887229] systemd-udevd[375]: renamed network interface eth0 to
>> enp5s1
>>
>> soo
>>
>> [root@localhost network-scripts]# mv ifcfg-eth1 ifcfg-enp5s1
>> [root@localhost network-scripts]# vi ifcfg-enp5s1
>> [root@localhost network-scripts]# ifdown enp5s1
>> Device 'enp5s1' successfully disconnected.
>> [root@localhost network-scripts]# ifup enp5s1
>> Error: no device found for connection 'System enp5s1'.
>>
>> But this is new:
>>
>> [root@localhost network-scripts]# ip a
>> 1: lo:  mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
>>  link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
>>  inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
>> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>>  inet6 ::1/128 scope host
>> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>> 2: enp2s0:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
>> state UP qlen 1

Re: [SUCCESS] Re: [nlug] Why do new releases have to be so frustrating

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Yeah...I guess because the first discovered NIC gets renamed before the
discovery of 56:6b, the naming drops back to eth0.

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Howard White  wrote:

> Precisely why I shouted!  Reboot in progress...
>
> Yes, the NICs come up as expected after boot.
>
> Howard
>
> On 11/01/2015 12:55 PM, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote:
>
>> I'm a little weirded out by eth0 getting renamed twice in dmesg.
>>
>> do they NICs it come up as expected through a reboot?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Howard White > <mailto:hwh...@vcch.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Update - after setting the MAC in ifcfg-enp5s1 to what is shown in
>> ifconfig -a, I have success:
>>
>> [root@localhost network-scripts]# ifconfig
>> enp2s0: flags=4163  mtu 1500
>>  inet 192.168.222.152  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast
>> 192.168.222.255
>>  inet6 fe80::e2cb:4eff:fe1f:35b2  prefixlen 64  scopeid
>> 0x20
>>  ether e0:cb:4e:1f:35:b2  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
>>  RX packets 2994  bytes 252507 (246.5 KiB)
>>  RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
>>  TX packets 1211  bytes 251506 (245.6 KiB)
>>  TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
>>
>> enp5s1: flags=4163  mtu 1500
>>  inet 192.168.98.151  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast
>> 192.168.98.255
>>  inet6 fe80::2e0:4cff:feee:566b  prefixlen 64  scopeid
>> 0x20
>>  ether 00:e0:4c:ee:56:6b  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
>>  RX packets 125  bytes 19661 (19.2 KiB)
>>  RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
>>  TX packets 33  bytes 3714 (3.6 KiB)
>>  TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
>>
>> lo: flags=73  mtu 65536
>>  inet 127.0.0.1  netmask 255.0.0.0
>>  inet6 ::1  prefixlen 128  scopeid 0x10
>>  loop  txqueuelen 0  (Local Loopback)
>>  RX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
>>  RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
>>  TX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
>>  TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
>>
>> Howard
>>
>>
>> On 11/01/2015 12:43 PM, Howard White wrote:
>>
>> Running the risk of changing more than one thing at a time.
>> Previous
>> mung I moved the Intel NIC to a different PCI slot and it
>> subsequently
>> did not appear as an Ethernet device in lspci.  So I replaced it
>> with a
>> RealTek NIC (MAC DB0303066320) in the slot that failed and now I
>> have
>> entries:
>>
>> [root@localhost ~]# lspci | grep Ethernet
>> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
>> RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02)
>> 05:01.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
>> RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev 10)
>> [root@localhost ~]# ls -l /sys/class/net
>> total 0
>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 0 Nov  1 12:23 enp2s0 ->
>> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1c.5/:02:00.0/net/enp2s0
>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 0 Nov  1 12:23 enp5s1 ->
>> ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1e.0/:05:01.0/net/enp5s1
>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 0 Nov  1 12:23 lo ->
>> ../../devices/virtual/net/lo
>>
>> I whacked up a quick file
>>
>> [root@localhost network-scripts]# cat ifcfg-eth1
>> DEVICE=eth1
>> # HWADDR=00:60:B0:6D:61:DD
>> HWADDR=DB:03:03:06:63:20
>> ONBOOT=yes
>> TYPE=ethernet
>> NETMASK=255.255.255.0
>> BOOTPROTO=dhcp
>>
>> and attempted an ifup eth1
>>
>> [root@localhost network-scripts]# ifup eth1
>> Error: no device found for connection 'System eth1'.
>>
>> OH, NOW THIS IS INTERESTING  (pardon the shout):
>>
>> [root@localhost network-scripts]# dmesg | grep -e eth
>> [0.745465] r8169 :02:00.0 eth0: RTL8168c/8111c at
>> 0xc9c78000, e0:cb:4e:1f:35:b2, XID 1c4000c0 IRQ 44
>> [0.745467] r8169 :02:00.0 eth0: jumbo features [frames:
>> 6128
>> bytes, tx checksumming: ko]
>> [0.878406] systemd-udevd[205]

Re: [nlug] Phreaknic Future of Linux Session - Clouds and Containers slides attached

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Howard White  wrote:

> On 11/08/2015 11:02 AM, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Attached is the PDF containing the slides used at Phreaknic19 Future of
>> Linux session last night to talk about containers and clouds. There was
>> a lot of good discussion around containers and security - could be an
>> interesting future NLUG presentation?
>>
>> I enjoyed the panel with Dagmar and Howard, and thanks to Ben Hicks for
>> setting everything up!
>>
>>   - Wesley
>>
>
> Wesley didn't see Michael Chaney's presentation about Jailed servers
> running in BSD many ages ago.  We have discussed these precursors to
> containers and their operations advantages to other virtual style
> implementations.  Now, I bring up this point not to discourage the topic as
> containers have come a long way since those jailed systems came to
> practice.  Yes, the point Wesley made in his presentation about the impact
> of containers versus virtual guests is important.  How many layers, how
> many copies of what has to be maintained and supported. Some of us, okay I,
> wince at the thought of having an operating system running to support
> having an operating system to support a java or erlang virtual environment.
>
> The slides can't reflect Dagmar's comments on the practical effects of the
> production environment.  My experience with "update constipation"
> completely echoes what Dagmar reports - nobody wants to touch anything for
> fear it might break (and that "they" might have to fix).


I think this is the conversation that definitely needs to be had around
containers - appropriate use cases. When considering the integration of
containers[1] into production environments, you do have to ask why go that
route. Is your prod environment a good use case for containers? Does it
scale up/scale down often? Are you updating pieces of the environment
independently? Do you have multiple teams providing those pieces? Do you
have multiple prod environments that should stay in sync? If you don't
answer "yes" to at least some of those questions, then containers may not
be a wise tool for prod. Monolithic (word of the year, right?) and static
workload prod environments don't sound like container bliss to me.

But dev and/or impl and/or qa - why NOT use containers? If you are keeping
those environments static and persistentwhy? Shouldn't those be (at
least mostly) modular and stateless?


> This is the way we manage our highways - we wait until the bridges fall
> down and then slap dash a fix.  Okay, off the soap box.
>

So, to me, containers help with this issue. Say you've got a new shiny
version of AppFoo and want to use it, but you aren't sure if everything
else will play nice[2]. Put AppFoo version N in a container and load it on
a container host, put it behind a load balancer alongside version N-1, and
start watching it pick up the workload. If the new version craps
out...discover why and try again. Sure you can do that with a VM but (a)
waste of resources and (b) how can you be 100% sure that it was the new
AppFoo version that caused any issues (unless you patched/tuned/tweaked the
VM to be exactly like the existing prod, which if you are doing all that
work to test maybe there should be multiple environments anyway)? But this
way you don't have to reset (or risk) the entire environment to put the new
AppFoo through its paces.

 - wesley

[1] To be sure, that process nowadays is not your grandmother's container
process - with tools like jenkins, gerrit, puppet, ansible, etc it's
apples/oranges in many ways to previous experiences.
[2] Not everyone has multiple staging environments and sometimes prod is
all you have. In that case, I'd say that containers are worth a look - no
matter the answers to the prior questions - for many reasons.


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Re: [nlug] requests for talks for this month ( tomorrow), December, and January

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hi Andrew,

I can't commit to anything this year (thanks class that scheduled meetings
on Tuesday nights :P ), but unless anyone else wants to present for January
I can do a talk on containers on Jan 12. Info could include

 - What is a container?
 - Where do I get, and how can I manage, them?
 - What can I do with containers?
 - A demo based on AppFoo upgrade-in-place example from a previous thread.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Wesley

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 7:38 PM, andrew mcelroy  wrote:

> Greetings All,
>
> Tomorrow is NLUG.
> Granted PhreakNIC conference was this weekend.
>
> Do we have any volunteers for talks in November ( tomorrow), December,
> and January?
>
> If not, What topics do you all want to hear and I'll work on finding
> people in the Nashville tech community that can give these talks.
>
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Re: [nlug] requests for talks for this month ( tomorrow), December, and January

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Works for me!

Thanks,
Wesley

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 8:32 PM, andrew mcelroy  wrote:

> That would awesome Wesley.
> Can we pencil that in for January?
>
> Much appreciated.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Wesley Duffee-Braun 
> wrote:
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > I can't commit to anything this year (thanks class that scheduled
> meetings
> > on Tuesday nights :P ), but unless anyone else wants to present for
> January
> > I can do a talk on containers on Jan 12. Info could include
> >
> >  - What is a container?
> >  - Where do I get, and how can I manage, them?
> >  - What can I do with containers?
> >  - A demo based on AppFoo upgrade-in-place example from a previous
> thread.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wesley
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 7:38 PM, andrew mcelroy 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Greetings All,
> >>
> >> Tomorrow is NLUG.
> >> Granted PhreakNIC conference was this weekend.
> >>
> >> Do we have any volunteers for talks in November ( tomorrow), December,
> >> and January?
> >>
> >> If not, What topics do you all want to hear and I'll work on finding
> >> people in the Nashville tech community that can give these talks.
> >>
> >> Respectfully,
> >> Andrew
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Re: [nlug] presentation tonight? Video camera with SD card?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Don't give me the heart palpitations...my presentation isn't quite ready to
say the least ;) the meeting is NEXT Tuesday, right?

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Michael L 
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> Hello NLUG,
> The video camera I brought last month will be overkill; AND if anyone has
> a smaller one which records to SD card, it will be easier to transport and
> enable us to use a tiny pocket sized tripod (again, easier to transport).
>
> We found out last month that recording to SD card is desirable, since we
> can quickly copy content to multiple laptops / hard drives enabling post
> production collaboration among those interested.
>
> I could bring the same camera again this time, but probably should ask
> permission after tonight.
>   M
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Re: [nlug] Ham Class anyone?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Very interesting! I got my tech 20 years ago and have done pretty much
nothing with it. Count me in, would love a kickstart of knowledge
and enthusiasm.

- kc5umb
On Jan 17, 2016 10:10 AM, "David R. Wilson"  wrote:

> Hi guys, and hopefully a gal or two, maybe more,
>
> I will be putting on a Ham (Amateur Radio) class in the next few weeks.
> For those that have their Tech or General, this will give you some way
> to upgrade to your Extra.  If you don't pass, you will be able to blame
> the instructor! The first session (mostly orientation) will be tonight
> (Sunday Evening at 7:00 PM).
>
> There is some bad news here however.
>
> 1.  I am really bad at math.
>
> 2.  I have not a clue how many will show up.
>
> 3.  You will have to pay for your own food (less than $10.00 each)
>
> 4. I don't get a dime out of that.
>
> 5.  Chances of me being organized are very slim.
>
> The place:
>
> New East Buffet
> 5179 Murfreesboro Road, Lavergne, TN 37086
>
> If you have problems finding it, chances are I will have the cell phone
> on me.  I expect to be there at 7:00 PM. If you want their number it
> is 615 793 1998.  Don't hesitate to give me a ring if there is some
> reason you can't make it.
>
> You will probably hear some surprises and maybe a few secrets.
>
> If they ask why there are 3 people that showed up, or 50 the standard
> answer is #1 above.
>
> I will need help on some of this computer related stuff, so you have
> been warned.  As a matter of fact, I will likely generally need help in
> a lot of ways.
>
> For anyone that only has the Technician, this will help to get you out
> of that rut.
>
> We will be teaching everything from no license to Extra courses.
>
> More details will be revealed tonight.
>
> Hope to see you there
>
> Dave
> 615 579 3177
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[nlug] Published an article on opensource.com

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hi all,

A quick note - I have an article on opensource.com that was published this
morning. It's about a theater company in Nashville that has, on their own,
developed a set of open organization principles for running their ensemble.

https://opensource.com/open-organization/16/2/becoming-open-organization-theater-group-finds-success

Feel free to read, share, disregard, whatever :)

 - Wesley

ps - if anyone would like to submit for opensource.com (as a one-off or
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Re: [nlug] does anyone on this list not use Windows at all?

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Sounds feasible, what are their workloads?
On Mar 25, 2016 12:44 PM, "Michael L"  wrote:

> One reason I ask is because I have a co-worker whose time gets wasted by
> supporting (two older) Windows users.  If I can show him a very low
> maintenance Linux (maybe Mint 17) system that saves lots of trouble, I
> think he'd like that idea.
>   M
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Tilghman Lesher 
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>
>> My primary desktop is Linux, as is my router, Nagios server, and
>> several other servers.  However, I also have a smattering of other
>> machines, with Mac and Windows, which I use primarily for testing,
>> since I need to support those platforms, and I have a few applications
>> that won't run under Wine and for which there aren't compatible
>> applications for Mac or Linux.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Michael L 
>> wrote:
>> > Hello NLUG,
>> > I want to ask if anyone on this email list (at least at home) uses Linux
>> > only for their computing needs?
>> >
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Re: [nlug] does anyone on this list not use Windows at all?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Michael,

I haven't gone through the steps, but this looks like it could be a
starting point depending on which version of Windows they are using -
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028896/how-to-make-ubuntu-linux-look-like-windows-7.html

Some thoughts on potential blockers - do they use iTunes at all? What
browser do they use? Any odd peripherals (digital cameras with funky
drivers) that could be a hindrance? What email program is used by the one
who emails? What sort of "support" does your coworker end up doing for
those users?

hth,
wesley



On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Csaba Toth  wrote:

> But it's also possible to install "real" Linux on a Chrome book. Which
> yields a very cheap laptop.
>
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Jacob Margason  wrote:
>
>> In my opinion, if it runs the linux kernel then it's linux.
>> On Mar 25, 2016 4:06 PM, "Will Drewry"  wrote:
>>
>>> Do chromebooks pass muster as a Linux based solution? They may fit the
>>> bill.
>>>
>>> (I pretty much only use chrome os and Ubuntu all day long.)
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 25, 2016, Michael L  wrote:
>>>
>>>> One (older) Windows user surfs the web and answers emails; the other
>>>> just surfs the web.-  Nothing else.  Neither user has the time to learn
>>>> anything else, the web/email user has neither time nor interest; no new
>>>> tricks for an old dog.
>>>>
>>>>   M
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Wesley Duffee-Braun <
>>>> wduf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sounds feasible, what are their workloads?
>>>>> On Mar 25, 2016 12:44 PM, "Michael L" 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> One reason I ask is because I have a co-worker whose time gets wasted
>>>>>> by supporting (two older) Windows users.  If I can show him a very low
>>>>>> maintenance Linux (maybe Mint 17) system that saves lots of trouble, I
>>>>>> think he'd like that idea.
>>>>>>   M
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Tilghman Lesher <
>>>>>> tilgh...@meg.abyt.es> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My primary desktop is Linux, as is my router, Nagios server, and
>>>>>>> several other servers.  However, I also have a smattering of other
>>>>>>> machines, with Mac and Windows, which I use primarily for testing,
>>>>>>> since I need to support those platforms, and I have a few
>>>>>>> applications
>>>>>>> that won't run under Wine and for which there aren't compatible
>>>>>>> applications for Mac or Linux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Michael L <
>>>>>>> helpwithmath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Hello NLUG,
>>>>>>> > I want to ask if anyone on this email list (at least at home) uses
>>>>>>> Linux
>>>>>>> > only for their computing needs?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >  M
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Re: [nlug] Strange router behavior

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Can you connect to other local systems from the device when your outside
connection isn't working?
On Jun 13, 2016 2:20 PM, "John Eldredge"  wrote:

> In my case, I can connect to the router, but not to external sites, until
> the router is reset. At the same time, other devices, connected via both
> WiFi and cable, continue to be able to reach the Internet.
> --
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> "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot
> drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Martin Luther King, Jr.
>
> On June 13, 2016 10:49:33 AM Csaba Toth  wrote:
>
>> VPN as a technology may require co-operation from the router:
>> https://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/VPN
>>
>> But as I said, I don't know why in my case there were mysterious effects,
>> but I discovered that it probably correlated with my VPN connection usage.
>> And it caused clients not to be able to connect.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 7:51 AM, John Eldredge 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My work laptop has to alternate between connecting to two different
>>> VPNs, but this is handled by the laptop, not the router. I have wondered
>>> whether DD-WRT is blocking the cell phone due to excessive network traffic,
>>> since I sometimes listen to streaming audio.
>>>
>>> Incidentally, my initial post to the list yesterday, and your reply,
>>> didn't show up in my inbox until I reposted the message today. Strange.
>>>
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>>> drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Martin Luther King, Jr.
>>>
>>> On June 12, 2016 9:18:50 PM Csaba Toth  wrote:
>>>
 Do you use any VPN? VPN produced strange behavior of multiple routers
 (one was DDWRT) before for me.

 On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 7:09 PM, John Eldredge 
 wrote:

> About ten days ago, I installed new firmware on my cell phone. Since
> then, I have had three occasions when my home WiFi router, running DD-WRT,
> has refused to pass network traffic from my cell phone. WiFi traffic from
> my tablet, and traffic from my laptop (via a hardwired connection)
> continues to go through. Rebooting the phone does not solve the problem,
> but rebooting the router restores full connectivity.
>
> Does anyone know whether DD-WRT sometimes blacklists a particular
> device, and, if so, under what circumstances?
>
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Re: [nlug] security / hosting question for webadmins- Joomla / Rackspace

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

In terms of auto-updaters: dreamhost will do the autoupdates as well for
wordpress (and many other tools you can install via their "one-click
goodies" manager). however, wp.org is awesome too!

In terms of hosting: Are you storing any of that video in your account? The
vimeo and youtube, that's going to be coming from their respective data
stores, but if you are serving the S3 video from your acct to your acct via
the S3 protocol (and not using Amazon S3 storage itself), then I wonder how
much of that $800/month is for the data storage of the video itself vs the
web server proper. Do you know how that price breakdown works? Regardless,
+1 to the hosting content on Providers A/B/C and have your web site hosted
on Providers 1/2/3. But it's hard to say what could be "cheaper" without
knowing how much you would have to store data-wise on that account.

Last, in terms of migrating a site from Joomla to WP, it really depends on
the complexity of the site. Video plugins are likely going to work without
much trouble, but if you have a large user base, administrator setup,
billing information, etc that could be a little more difficult to move
over. But not impossible, and having worked with both I'd go for WP over
Joomla every time.

hth,
wesley


On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Chris McQuistion 
wrote:

> We use Wordpress.org to host our site.
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Michael L 
> wrote:
>
>> May I ask what hosting company that is?   Thank you for all the good info,
>>
>>   M
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Chris McQuistion <
>> cmcquist...@watkins.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll pipe in and say that I heartily agree that hosting the website on a
>>> server that will be automatically updated whenever security updates are
>>> available is a Good Thing.  We have a Wordpress-powered site and it is
>>> hosted by a company that automatically installs the Wordpress updates for
>>> us and tests the site after every update.  I'm sure there are hosting
>>> companies that offer the same thing for Joomla powered sites.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Michael L 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello NLUG,
 Last year our Joomla website was hacked and blacklisted while hosted on
 hostgator, no help from hostgator in resolving anything as it was a
 non-managed dedicated server.

 One NLUGger gave us several suggestions for other hosts; we went with a
 managed dedicated server at (public cloud host) Rackspace for $800+ per
 month, which includes a firewall; it got us off the blacklist.

 I was recently warned by a WordPress aficionado / IT consultant that
 Joomla websites are being hacked left and right and I would like to know of
 any suggestions from the NLUG group:
 1)  Who likes what website platform and can a Joomla site be migrated
 over?  and
 2)  Does anyone have confidence in other managed dedicated server hosts
 for less money?

 Thank you kindly
   M


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Re: [nlug] home labs on the cheap

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

AWS?

I wonder how much you'd have to spend on AWS for that to be more expensive
than the hardware, electricity, time, etc for doing a home lab.

You may of course, have requirements that preclude AWS being an option, but
it would be zero-heat & zero-noise (at least at the house) :D

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Jack Coats  wrote:

> Personally I like multiple monitors but single keyboard, but that
> isn't always possible.
>
> Cheapest way would be to set up headless machines and telnet/ssh into
> them with or without runnin X.
>
> I haven't done anything with RH in years, so no info here on that.
> ... Please keep us updated.
>
> - I am trying to wean myself away from having a lab anymore.  Still
> like hardware to much so it isn't going smoothly.
> Several folks I know just deal with virtual machines and connect to
> them as needed.
>
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Kent Perrier 
> wrote:
> > I find myself in need of some hardware that can run KVM so I can
> test/play
> > with some tech here at home. Cost, noise and heat are concerns (I know, I
> > know, pick two) so old real server class hardware isn't an option.
> > Anyone built a home lab out of intel NUCs, mini-itx based systems, etc
> that
> > work well? I will be running RHEL/RHEV on the hardware.
> >
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Re: [nlug] home labs on the cheap

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Ah. Hmmm. Something like AWS may not be the most straightforward option
for Satellite installation & usage.

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Kent Perrier  wrote:

> While AWS is an option, I am not sure that I want to add that complexity
> to my immediate task of installing and learning Satellite 6.2. :)  We do
> have an internal OpenStack cloud that I can (and am) use but specifically
> with Satellite, I can't build machines in OpenStack and use "my" satellite
> server to provision them. Some of that stuff requires access to
> consoles/raw hardware.
>
> Kent
>
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Wesley Duffee-Braun 
> wrote:
>
>> AWS?
>>
>> I wonder how much you'd have to spend on AWS for that to be more
>> expensive than the hardware, electricity, time, etc for doing a home lab.
>>
>> You may of course, have requirements that preclude AWS being an option,
>> but it would be zero-heat & zero-noise (at least at the house) :D
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Jack Coats  wrote:
>>
>>> Personally I like multiple monitors but single keyboard, but that
>>> isn't always possible.
>>>
>>> Cheapest way would be to set up headless machines and telnet/ssh into
>>> them with or without runnin X.
>>>
>>> I haven't done anything with RH in years, so no info here on that.
>>> ... Please keep us updated.
>>>
>>> - I am trying to wean myself away from having a lab anymore.  Still
>>> like hardware to much so it isn't going smoothly.
>>> Several folks I know just deal with virtual machines and connect to
>>> them as needed.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Kent Perrier 
>>> wrote:
>>> > I find myself in need of some hardware that can run KVM so I can
>>> test/play
>>> > with some tech here at home. Cost, noise and heat are concerns (I
>>> know, I
>>> > know, pick two) so old real server class hardware isn't an option.
>>> > Anyone built a home lab out of intel NUCs, mini-itx based systems, etc
>>> that
>>> > work well? I will be running RHEL/RHEV on the hardware.
>>> >
>>> > Kent
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[nlug] opensource.com is looking for contributors

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hello NLUG,

I wanted to share an opportunity with NLUG for those inclined to share
their thoughts, opinions, expertise, and experience with open source
software, hardware, communities, etc.

For those unfamiliar, opensource.com "publishes stories about creating,
adopting, and sharing open source solutions" and it's a pretty wide ranging
resource for open source information. One populate column is
https://opensource.com/tags/raspberry-pi-column, written by the education
developer advocate for the Raspberry Pi Foundation.

I've had an article published on unlikely open organizations, focused on a
local theater company, and I've got another about to go live about open
decision making and how the lessons from the Challenger tragedy could and
should have been applied to help avoid the Takata airbag crisis.

So the content ranges from technical how-to's and software engineering best
practices to more abstract discussions of what "open" can really mean. If
you want to contribute, let me know and I'm happy to help facilitate your
contributing to the site. Most articles are short - under 800 words - and
whether you have a concept for a one-and-done or a perpetual column, all
ideas are welcome!

Cheers,
Wesley

Disclaimer - although I do work for Red Hat, with this I'm just a
contributor to opensource.com who happens to be working to widen the pool
of contributors to the site.


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[nlug] Anyone going to the "Storytelling with Open Data" hackathon Saturday?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Unfortunately I can't make it tonight (maybe it's been over a year since
I've been at this point :( )...every month I think "Maybe this time" but it
hasn't been in the cards yet.

Anyway - not sure if this has been covered, but there is an open data
hackathon in Nashville on Saturday. Details at
https://storytelling.civichack.us/ and
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/storytelling-with-government-data-a-public-health-hackathon-tickets-31591056701

Going to try and make it myself...hope to see some of you there! And
hopefully next month I'll make it to NLUG...

best
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Re: [nlug] yet more predictions for the future

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COBOL is dead. Long live COBOL.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Jack Coats  wrote:

> Jokers keep predicting the doom of low level everything.  In computers,
> the only way to get a new architecture supported is for someone to get down
> and become one with the bits.  Only if it is so complicated that only
> computers can program computers will this style of prediction become
> right.  So far, we are no where close.
>
> The predictors will keep predicting.  They will be wrong again.
>
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Re: [nlug] Backup / archive - JBOD, RAID

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

On the software-defined storage side, Gluster offers "dispersed volumes"
which offers 1.5x cost for replication via erasure coding on JBOD (instead
of the 2x cost for RAID1 replication). One benefit of gluster is that you
can also setup a geo-replicated off-site destination which can act as a
backup.


On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Jonathan Sheehan  wrote:

> This point from John always bears repeating. If you are not testing
> that your restores work correctly, then you don't know whether you
> have a backup solution or not. :-)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 11:46 AM, John F. Eldredge 
> wrote:
> > Make sure your plan includes storing at least some of the backups
> off-site,
> > to protect against disasters such as fire or tornadoes.  Also, make sure
> > your backup plans include periodically checking that the data backed up
> is
> > usable. Back in my system administration days, I once encountered a
> > situation where a hard drive problem was garbling the data before it was
> > backed up; the backup software wasn't reporting any problems, because it
> was
> > making an accurate copy of the already-garbled data.
> >
> >
> > On 04/04/2017 11:17 AM, Kent Perrier wrote:
> >
> > This might be of some help:
> >
> > https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-benchmark-stats-2016/
> >
> > I really can't help on the storage side but that article should give you
> an
> > idea on hard drive reliability. Unless you want to replace ALL the data
> when
> > any single drive fails I'd recommend some form of redundancy. Depending
> on
> > how deep you want to go down this rabbit hole, take a look at ZFS on
> Linux.
> >
> > Kent
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Michael L 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello NLUG,
> >> Thanks to Jerry Perkins (for invaluable guidance on installing Debian
> >> server) and thanks to NLUG we are getting a direly needed backup /
> archive
> >> system in place.  I'll let Jerry share his meticulous notes on the
> details.
> >> Interestingly, due to transportation issues, Jerry has been guiding me
> via
> >> phone and email, so I am seeing all the details, that I might not
> otherwise
> >> see if he were present doing all the implementing.
> >>
> >> For the archive portion of the project (190TB of video, growing by 2TB
> per
> >> month), I was thinking of a JBOD array (or multiple lesser arrays).
> I've
> >> been advised against RAID, as this won't be the only existing archive
> and
> >> due to length of time for RAID rebuild in the event of a drive failure.
> >>
> >> At our December meeting Vince mentioned something important if not
> >> critical to consider, that we may see a flood of cheaper HDDs hit the
> >> market.  Indeed, Seagate's former 5yr warranty is no longer; now it's
> one
> >> year.
> >>
> >> We currently put to use a Dell R220 with miniSAS, USB3, and dual
> ethernet
> >> ports; maybe I should add eSATA?  I know that some of you having worked
> at
> >> DELL don't hold their hardware in high regard; this was just bought a
> while
> >> back (for an LTO6 system still to be implemented... later)
> >>
> >> Anyone with knowledge and experience on different HDD array hardware,
> >> please advise.
> >>
> >> This help is saving us thousands of dollars in (in$ulting) IT
> >> con$ulting.
> >>   Thank you kindly- M
> >>
> >> PS  I can still come video the meetings - just have to bolt at 7:02pm -
> >> anything to help keep NLUG going.  I'd be drowning without it.
> >>
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Re: [nlug] How to Remove?

[Wesley Duffee-Braun]

Hello Dave,

There may be context to your message I don't have, but some additional
information would be useful I think.

 - Distribution?
 - Versions?
 - Installation method?

Are you trying to do a removal, or upgrade, or ?

Thanks!
Wesley

On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 10:11 PM, David R. Wilson  wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I can't delete mysql without mariadb being installed.
> I can't delete mariadb without mysql being installed.
>
> Any good ideas?
>
> Since Oracle forked MySQL it messed up both.
>
> Dave
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