[NoXMail] Reporting backup mail server.

2003-01-27 Thread John Tolmachoff 








This is a
junkmail, but what is interesting is NoXMail is reporting the IP source as my
backup mail server. In Declude, you can set to skip a backup server. Is there a
way to do that in NoXMail so that it will report the true received from source?

 

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Re: [NoXMail] Reporting backup mail server.

2003-01-27 Thread Brian Milburn 

Hi John,

I suppose we could put something in there to check for a backup server
setting, but we don't do RBL lookups so I don't see what the point would be.
The limited IP checking we do is using one of the pattern files and ALL IPs in
the routing are checked, so the only thing that would change would be what is
inserted into the headers. In addition, the only time IP checking is invoked
is when a message does not fail anything else. It would not affect the program
operation in the slightest.

Brian
 
On 01/27/03 7:06am you wrote...
>This is a junkmail, but what is interesting is NoXMail is reporting the IP
>source as my backup mail server. In Declude, you can set to skip a backup
>server. Is there a way to do that in NoXMail so that it will report the true
>received from source?
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RE: [NoXMail] Reporting backup mail server.

2003-01-27 Thread John Tolmachoff 
I am not referencing it to doing any kind of check.

It is more of a reporting function which could lead to some confusion in
non-Declude installations.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
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Fullerton, CA  92835
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:NoX-List-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:17 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NoXMail] Reporting backup mail server.
> 
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> I suppose we could put something in there to check for a backup server
> setting, but we don't do RBL lookups so I don't see what the point would
be.
> The limited IP checking we do is using one of the pattern files and ALL
IPs in
> the routing are checked, so the only thing that would change would be what
is
> inserted into the headers. In addition, the only time IP checking is
invoked
> is when a message does not fail anything else. It would not affect the
program
> operation in the slightest.
> 
> Brian
> 
> On 01/27/03 7:06am you wrote...
> >This is a junkmail, but what is interesting is NoXMail is reporting the
IP
> >source as my backup mail server. In Declude, you can set to skip a backup
> >server. Is there a way to do that in NoXMail so that it will report the
true
> >received from source?
> >
> >
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RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please

2003-01-27 Thread Bill Naber 
1) I'd go with "CYBERSitter AntiSpam", the NicerMail just sounds like it
belongs on a desktop, not a server.  The CYBERSitter AntiSpam captures both
the spam and adult blocking features.

2) (Sending off list).

Thanks,
-Bill Naber

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [NoXMail] Opinions Please



Hi everyone,

Actually I have 2 things...

Item 1. It looks like the name "No-X-Mail" is out which is no surprise to
me.
I write software ok, but marketing is not my best thing. We received some
research materials back and that name has a definite problem in that
"CYBERsitter" already has recognition for adult oriented material, and the
"No-X-Mail" makes it appear that the product is strictly for adult messages,
not necessarily spam in general.

So it's down to "CYBERsitter AntiSpam" or "CYBERsitter NicerMail". We
already
own the nicermail.* domains. That's a plus. If you do a google search on
CYBERsitter AntiSpam you still get hits from a product we published in 1998.
That's a negative. The research indicated that the NicerMail name imparts a
more "friendly" implication. We have used "For a Family Friendly Internet"
as
a service mark for many years. It's on all our t-shirts and everything ;-)
Also, the nicermail.com will also be used for filtered subscription email
services we will be offering to our regular CYBERsitter customers. My
opinion
is that NicerMail maybe does not imply something as "industrial strength" as
mail admins may want.

So... opinions anyone?

Item 2. I will be posting a release candidate version next week. The
NoxAnalyxe.exe program is now NoxAdmin.exe (of course the names may now
change). It is really cool now. There are no more popup menus, everything is
all hyperlinked, color coded, and you can use the whole thing with just a
mouse unless you want to edit a file. You can view or edit any file, deliver
held messages, and do pretty much anything from any computer anywhere. If
anyone wants to use it before next week, let me know.

The licensing mechanisms have changed and now require a license code and a
separate key code. So before you can install the upcoming version I will
need
to issue you new codes. The key code is keyed on your server IP address. So
if
you will send me (off-list if you like) your server IP address I will send
you
each your own codes. If your server has more than one IP address, just send
me
one of them, it doesn't matter which one, as long as it is valid for IMail.

Thanks and have a good weekend.

-Brian


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RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please

2003-01-27 Thread Brian Milburn 

What do you think of simply CYBERsitter SpamManager? We also own
spammanager.com. 

-Brian
 
On 01/27/03 10:46am you wrote...
>1) I'd go with "CYBERSitter AntiSpam", the NicerMail just sounds like it
>belongs on a desktop, not a server.  The CYBERSitter AntiSpam captures both
>the spam and adult blocking features.
>
>2) (Sending off list).
>
>Thanks,
>-Bill Naber
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
>Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:11 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [NoXMail] Opinions Please
>
>
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>Actually I have 2 things...
>
>Item 1. It looks like the name "No-X-Mail" is out which is no surprise to
>me.
>I write software ok, but marketing is not my best thing. We received some
>research materials back and that name has a definite problem in that
>"CYBERsitter" already has recognition for adult oriented material, and the
>"No-X-Mail" makes it appear that the product is strictly for adult messages,
>not necessarily spam in general.
>
>So it's down to "CYBERsitter AntiSpam" or "CYBERsitter NicerMail". We
>already
>own the nicermail.* domains. That's a plus. If you do a google search on
>CYBERsitter AntiSpam you still get hits from a product we published in 1998.
>That's a negative. The research indicated that the NicerMail name imparts a
>more "friendly" implication. We have used "For a Family Friendly Internet"
>as
>a service mark for many years. It's on all our t-shirts and everything ;-)
>Also, the nicermail.com will also be used for filtered subscription email
>services we will be offering to our regular CYBERsitter customers. My
>opinion
>is that NicerMail maybe does not imply something as "industrial strength" as
>mail admins may want.
>
>So... opinions anyone?
>
>Item 2. I will be posting a release candidate version next week. The
>NoxAnalyxe.exe program is now NoxAdmin.exe (of course the names may now
>change). It is really cool now. There are no more popup menus, everything is
>all hyperlinked, color coded, and you can use the whole thing with just a
>mouse unless you want to edit a file. You can view or edit any file, deliver
>held messages, and do pretty much anything from any computer anywhere. If
>anyone wants to use it before next week, let me know.
>
>The licensing mechanisms have changed and now require a license code and a
>separate key code. So before you can install the upcoming version I will
>need
>to issue you new codes. The key code is keyed on your server IP address. So
>if
>you will send me (off-list if you like) your server IP address I will send
>you
>each your own codes. If your server has more than one IP address, just send
>me
>one of them, it doesn't matter which one, as long as it is valid for IMail.
>
>Thanks and have a good weekend.
>
>-Brian
>
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RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please

2003-01-27 Thread Bill Naber 
SpamManager sounds more corporate, but I want something *tough*, like
SpamFryer ;-)

Seriously, I think SpamManager is about as good as AntiSpam.

One random thought I've had is wondering if/when Hormel gets touchy about
the "Spam" being used in a variety derisive product names (spamkiller,
antispam, etc.).  I know trademark only covers you in the same industry
(e.g., Jameson Hotels & Jameson Whiskey can both legally exist), but it
seems like at some point there's going to be a backlash against the slang
use of spam.

-Bill

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 1:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please



What do you think of simply CYBERsitter SpamManager? We also own
spammanager.com.

-Brian

On 01/27/03 10:46am you wrote...
>1) I'd go with "CYBERSitter AntiSpam", the NicerMail just sounds like it
>belongs on a desktop, not a server.  The CYBERSitter AntiSpam captures both
>the spam and adult blocking features.
>
>2) (Sending off list).
>
>Thanks,
>-Bill Naber
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
>Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:11 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [NoXMail] Opinions Please
>
>
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>Actually I have 2 things...
>
>Item 1. It looks like the name "No-X-Mail" is out which is no surprise to
>me.
>I write software ok, but marketing is not my best thing. We received some
>research materials back and that name has a definite problem in that
>"CYBERsitter" already has recognition for adult oriented material, and the
>"No-X-Mail" makes it appear that the product is strictly for adult
messages,
>not necessarily spam in general.
>
>So it's down to "CYBERsitter AntiSpam" or "CYBERsitter NicerMail". We
>already
>own the nicermail.* domains. That's a plus. If you do a google search on
>CYBERsitter AntiSpam you still get hits from a product we published in
1998.
>That's a negative. The research indicated that the NicerMail name imparts a
>more "friendly" implication. We have used "For a Family Friendly Internet"
>as
>a service mark for many years. It's on all our t-shirts and everything ;-)
>Also, the nicermail.com will also be used for filtered subscription email
>services we will be offering to our regular CYBERsitter customers. My
>opinion
>is that NicerMail maybe does not imply something as "industrial strength"
as
>mail admins may want.
>
>So... opinions anyone?
>
>Item 2. I will be posting a release candidate version next week. The
>NoxAnalyxe.exe program is now NoxAdmin.exe (of course the names may now
>change). It is really cool now. There are no more popup menus, everything
is
>all hyperlinked, color coded, and you can use the whole thing with just a
>mouse unless you want to edit a file. You can view or edit any file,
deliver
>held messages, and do pretty much anything from any computer anywhere. If
>anyone wants to use it before next week, let me know.
>
>The licensing mechanisms have changed and now require a license code and a
>separate key code. So before you can install the upcoming version I will
>need
>to issue you new codes. The key code is keyed on your server IP address. So
>if
>you will send me (off-list if you like) your server IP address I will send
>you
>each your own codes. If your server has more than one IP address, just send
>me
>one of them, it doesn't matter which one, as long as it is valid for IMail.
>
>Thanks and have a good weekend.
>
>-Brian
>
>
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RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please

2003-01-27 Thread Brian Milburn 

How about SpamScud? Or maybe Spamazappa? Actually, Hormel has a published
position on the use of the term SPAM. They do not discourage it and from what
I have heard, they actually are pleased because it keeps their brand in the
current vernacular. I imagine a Lexus/Nexus search on SPAM would show
thousands of references and very few of them would refer to a meat? product.
 
On 01/27/03 1:24pm you wrote...
>SpamManager sounds more corporate, but I want something *tough*, like
>SpamFryer ;-)
>
>Seriously, I think SpamManager is about as good as AntiSpam.
>
>One random thought I've had is wondering if/when Hormel gets touchy about
>the "Spam" being used in a variety derisive product names (spamkiller,
>antispam, etc.).  I know trademark only covers you in the same industry
>(e.g., Jameson Hotels & Jameson Whiskey can both legally exist), but it
>seems like at some point there's going to be a backlash against the slang
>use of spam.
>
>-Bill
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please
>
>
>
>What do you think of simply CYBERsitter SpamManager? We also own
>spammanager.com.
>
>-Brian
>
>On 01/27/03 10:46am you wrote...
>>1) I'd go with "CYBERSitter AntiSpam", the NicerMail just sounds like it
>>belongs on a desktop, not a server.  The CYBERSitter AntiSpam captures both
>>the spam and adult blocking features.
>>
>>2) (Sending off list).
>>
>>Thanks,
>>-Bill Naber
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
>>Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:11 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: [NoXMail] Opinions Please
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>Actually I have 2 things...
>>
>>Item 1. It looks like the name "No-X-Mail" is out which is no surprise to
>>me.
>>I write software ok, but marketing is not my best thing. We received some
>>research materials back and that name has a definite problem in that
>>"CYBERsitter" already has recognition for adult oriented material, and the
>>"No-X-Mail" makes it appear that the product is strictly for adult
>messages,
>>not necessarily spam in general.
>>
>>So it's down to "CYBERsitter AntiSpam" or "CYBERsitter NicerMail". We
>>already
>>own the nicermail.* domains. That's a plus. If you do a google search on
>>CYBERsitter AntiSpam you still get hits from a product we published in
>1998.
>>That's a negative. The research indicated that the NicerMail name imparts a
>>more "friendly" implication. We have used "For a Family Friendly Internet"
>>as
>>a service mark for many years. It's on all our t-shirts and everything ;-)
>>Also, the nicermail.com will also be used for filtered subscription email
>>services we will be offering to our regular CYBERsitter customers. My
>>opinion
>>is that NicerMail maybe does not imply something as "industrial strength"
>as
>>mail admins may want.
>>
>>So... opinions anyone?
>>
>>Item 2. I will be posting a release candidate version next week. The
>>NoxAnalyxe.exe program is now NoxAdmin.exe (of course the names may now
>>change). It is really cool now. There are no more popup menus, everything
>is
>>all hyperlinked, color coded, and you can use the whole thing with just a
>>mouse unless you want to edit a file. You can view or edit any file,
>deliver
>>held messages, and do pretty much anything from any computer anywhere. If
>>anyone wants to use it before next week, let me know.
>>
>>The licensing mechanisms have changed and now require a license code and a
>>separate key code. So before you can install the upcoming version I will
>>need
>>to issue you new codes. The key code is keyed on your server IP address. So
>>if
>>you will send me (off-list if you like) your server IP address I will send
>>you
>>each your own codes. If your server has more than one IP address, just send
>>me
>>one of them, it doesn't matter which one, as long as it is valid for IMail.
>>
>>Thanks and have a good weekend.
>>
>>-Brian
>>
>>
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RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please

2003-01-27 Thread John Tolmachoff 
SpamManager sounds good.

So does SpamAGonaa. ;)

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:NoX-List-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please
> 
> 
> What do you think of simply CYBERsitter SpamManager? We also own
> spammanager.com.
> 
> -Brian
> 
> On 01/27/03 10:46am you wrote...
> >1) I'd go with "CYBERSitter AntiSpam", the NicerMail just sounds like it
> >belongs on a desktop, not a server.  The CYBERSitter AntiSpam captures
both
> >the spam and adult blocking features.
> >
> >2) (Sending off list).
> >
> >Thanks,
> >-Bill Naber
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
> >Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:11 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [NoXMail] Opinions Please
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >Actually I have 2 things...
> >
> >Item 1. It looks like the name "No-X-Mail" is out which is no surprise to
> >me.
> >I write software ok, but marketing is not my best thing. We received some
> >research materials back and that name has a definite problem in that
> >"CYBERsitter" already has recognition for adult oriented material, and
the
> >"No-X-Mail" makes it appear that the product is strictly for adult
messages,
> >not necessarily spam in general.
> >
> >So it's down to "CYBERsitter AntiSpam" or "CYBERsitter NicerMail". We
> >already
> >own the nicermail.* domains. That's a plus. If you do a google search on
> >CYBERsitter AntiSpam you still get hits from a product we published in
1998.
> >That's a negative. The research indicated that the NicerMail name imparts
a
> >more "friendly" implication. We have used "For a Family Friendly
Internet"
> >as
> >a service mark for many years. It's on all our t-shirts and everything
;-)
> >Also, the nicermail.com will also be used for filtered subscription email
> >services we will be offering to our regular CYBERsitter customers. My
> >opinion
> >is that NicerMail maybe does not imply something as "industrial strength"
as
> >mail admins may want.
> >
> >So... opinions anyone?
> >
> >Item 2. I will be posting a release candidate version next week. The
> >NoxAnalyxe.exe program is now NoxAdmin.exe (of course the names may now
> >change). It is really cool now. There are no more popup menus, everything
is
> >all hyperlinked, color coded, and you can use the whole thing with just a
> >mouse unless you want to edit a file. You can view or edit any file,
deliver
> >held messages, and do pretty much anything from any computer anywhere. If
> >anyone wants to use it before next week, let me know.
> >
> >The licensing mechanisms have changed and now require a license code and
a
> >separate key code. So before you can install the upcoming version I will
> >need
> >to issue you new codes. The key code is keyed on your server IP address.
So
> >if
> >you will send me (off-list if you like) your server IP address I will
send
> >you
> >each your own codes. If your server has more than one IP address, just
send
> >me
> >one of them, it doesn't matter which one, as long as it is valid for
IMail.
> >
> >Thanks and have a good weekend.
> >
> >-Brian
> >
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Re: [NoXMail] Opinions Please

2003-01-27 Thread Mark Seagroves 
SpamManager sounds good.  The "Manager" part implies options as to what 
actions can be taken with spam.  "SpamShredder" has a little more teeth to it.

Mark

At 03:10 PM 1/24/2003, you wrote:

Hi everyone,

Actually I have 2 things...

Item 1. It looks like the name "No-X-Mail" is out which is no surprise to me.
I write software ok, but marketing is not my best thing. We received some
research materials back and that name has a definite problem in that
"CYBERsitter" already has recognition for adult oriented material, and the
"No-X-Mail" makes it appear that the product is strictly for adult messages,
not necessarily spam in general.

So it's down to "CYBERsitter AntiSpam" or "CYBERsitter NicerMail". We already
own the nicermail.* domains. That's a plus. If you do a google search on
CYBERsitter AntiSpam you still get hits from a product we published in 1998.
That's a negative. The research indicated that the NicerMail name imparts a
more "friendly" implication. We have used "For a Family Friendly Internet" as
a service mark for many years. It's on all our t-shirts and everything ;-)
Also, the nicermail.com will also be used for filtered subscription email
services we will be offering to our regular CYBERsitter customers. My opinion
is that NicerMail maybe does not imply something as "industrial strength" as
mail admins may want.

So... opinions anyone?

Item 2. I will be posting a release candidate version next week. The
NoxAnalyxe.exe program is now NoxAdmin.exe (of course the names may now
change). It is really cool now. There are no more popup menus, everything is
all hyperlinked, color coded, and you can use the whole thing with just a
mouse unless you want to edit a file. You can view or edit any file, deliver
held messages, and do pretty much anything from any computer anywhere. If
anyone wants to use it before next week, let me know.

The licensing mechanisms have changed and now require a license code and a
separate key code. So before you can install the upcoming version I will need
to issue you new codes. The key code is keyed on your server IP address. So if
you will send me (off-list if you like) your server IP address I will send you
each your own codes. If your server has more than one IP address, just send me
one of them, it doesn't matter which one, as long as it is valid for IMail.

Thanks and have a good weekend.

-Brian


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Re: [NoXMail] Opinions Please

2003-01-27 Thread Brian Milburn 

How about SpamChomper? That has teeth in it! 
 
On 01/27/03 2:09pm you wrote...
>SpamManager sounds good.  The "Manager" part implies options as to what 
>actions can be taken with spam.  "SpamShredder" has a little more teeth to
>it.
>
>Mark
>
>At 03:10 PM 1/24/2003, you wrote:
>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>Actually I have 2 things...
>>
>>Item 1. It looks like the name "No-X-Mail" is out which is no surprise to
>me.
>>I write software ok, but marketing is not my best thing. We received some
>>research materials back and that name has a definite problem in that
>>"CYBERsitter" already has recognition for adult oriented material, and the
>>"No-X-Mail" makes it appear that the product is strictly for adult
>messages,
>>not necessarily spam in general.
>>
>>So it's down to "CYBERsitter AntiSpam" or "CYBERsitter NicerMail". We
>already
>>own the nicermail.* domains. That's a plus. If you do a google search on
>>CYBERsitter AntiSpam you still get hits from a product we published in
>1998.
>>That's a negative. The research indicated that the NicerMail name imparts a
>>more "friendly" implication. We have used "For a Family Friendly Internet"
>as
>>a service mark for many years. It's on all our t-shirts and everything ;-)
>>Also, the nicermail.com will also be used for filtered subscription email
>>services we will be offering to our regular CYBERsitter customers. My
>opinion
>>is that NicerMail maybe does not imply something as "industrial strength"
>as
>>mail admins may want.
>>
>>So... opinions anyone?
>>
>>Item 2. I will be posting a release candidate version next week. The
>>NoxAnalyxe.exe program is now NoxAdmin.exe (of course the names may now
>>change). It is really cool now. There are no more popup menus, everything
>is
>>all hyperlinked, color coded, and you can use the whole thing with just a
>>mouse unless you want to edit a file. You can view or edit any file,
>deliver
>>held messages, and do pretty much anything from any computer anywhere. If
>>anyone wants to use it before next week, let me know.
>>
>>The licensing mechanisms have changed and now require a license code and a
>>separate key code. So before you can install the upcoming version I will
>need
>>to issue you new codes. The key code is keyed on your server IP address. So
>if
>>you will send me (off-list if you like) your server IP address I will send
>you
>>each your own codes. If your server has more than one IP address, just send
>me
>>one of them, it doesn't matter which one, as long as it is valid for IMail.
>>
>>Thanks and have a good weekend.
>>
>>-Brian
>>
>>
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RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please

2003-01-27 Thread Bill Naber 
SpamAway has a nice retro feel to it.

-Bill Naber

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [NoXMail] Opinions Please



How about SpamChomper? That has teeth in it!

On 01/27/03 2:09pm you wrote...
>SpamManager sounds good.  The "Manager" part implies options as to what
>actions can be taken with spam.  "SpamShredder" has a little more teeth to
>it.
>
>Mark
>
>At 03:10 PM 1/24/2003, you wrote:
>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>Actually I have 2 things...
>>
>>Item 1. It looks like the name "No-X-Mail" is out which is no surprise to
>me.
>>I write software ok, but marketing is not my best thing. We received some
>>research materials back and that name has a definite problem in that
>>"CYBERsitter" already has recognition for adult oriented material, and the
>>"No-X-Mail" makes it appear that the product is strictly for adult
>messages,
>>not necessarily spam in general.
>>
>>So it's down to "CYBERsitter AntiSpam" or "CYBERsitter NicerMail". We
>already
>>own the nicermail.* domains. That's a plus. If you do a google search on
>>CYBERsitter AntiSpam you still get hits from a product we published in
>1998.
>>That's a negative. The research indicated that the NicerMail name imparts
a
>>more "friendly" implication. We have used "For a Family Friendly Internet"
>as
>>a service mark for many years. It's on all our t-shirts and everything ;-)
>>Also, the nicermail.com will also be used for filtered subscription email
>>services we will be offering to our regular CYBERsitter customers. My
>opinion
>>is that NicerMail maybe does not imply something as "industrial strength"
>as
>>mail admins may want.
>>
>>So... opinions anyone?
>>
>>Item 2. I will be posting a release candidate version next week. The
>>NoxAnalyxe.exe program is now NoxAdmin.exe (of course the names may now
>>change). It is really cool now. There are no more popup menus, everything
>is
>>all hyperlinked, color coded, and you can use the whole thing with just a
>>mouse unless you want to edit a file. You can view or edit any file,
>deliver
>>held messages, and do pretty much anything from any computer anywhere. If
>>anyone wants to use it before next week, let me know.
>>
>>The licensing mechanisms have changed and now require a license code and a
>>separate key code. So before you can install the upcoming version I will
>need
>>to issue you new codes. The key code is keyed on your server IP address.
So
>if
>>you will send me (off-list if you like) your server IP address I will send
>you
>>each your own codes. If your server has more than one IP address, just
send
>me
>>one of them, it doesn't matter which one, as long as it is valid for
IMail.
>>
>>Thanks and have a good weekend.
>>
>>-Brian
>>
>>
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RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please

2003-01-27 Thread Brian Milburn 

SpamAway, hmmm. No, I had a neighbor who was selling that stuff, er... I think
maybe that was Amway! Maybe we could market a new MLM AntiSpam product like
Spamway?
 
On 01/27/03 2:40pm you wrote...
>SpamAway has a nice retro feel to it.
>
>-Bill Naber
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
>Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:32 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [NoXMail] Opinions Please
>
>
>
>How about SpamChomper? That has teeth in it!
>
>On 01/27/03 2:09pm you wrote...
>>SpamManager sounds good.  The "Manager" part implies options as to what
>>actions can be taken with spam.  "SpamShredder" has a little more teeth to
>>it.
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>At 03:10 PM 1/24/2003, you wrote:
>>
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>Actually I have 2 things...
>>>
>>>Item 1. It looks like the name "No-X-Mail" is out which is no surprise to
>>me.
>>>I write software ok, but marketing is not my best thing. We received some
>>>research materials back and that name has a definite problem in that
>>>"CYBERsitter" already has recognition for adult oriented material, and the
>>>"No-X-Mail" makes it appear that the product is strictly for adult
>>messages,
>>>not necessarily spam in general.
>>>
>>>So it's down to "CYBERsitter AntiSpam" or "CYBERsitter NicerMail". We
>>already
>>>own the nicermail.* domains. That's a plus. If you do a google search on
>>>CYBERsitter AntiSpam you still get hits from a product we published in
>>1998.
>>>That's a negative. The research indicated that the NicerMail name imparts
>a
>>>more "friendly" implication. We have used "For a Family Friendly Internet"
>>as
>>>a service mark for many years. It's on all our t-shirts and everything ;-)
>>>Also, the nicermail.com will also be used for filtered subscription email
>>>services we will be offering to our regular CYBERsitter customers. My
>>opinion
>>>is that NicerMail maybe does not imply something as "industrial strength"
>>as
>>>mail admins may want.
>>>
>>>So... opinions anyone?
>>>
>>>Item 2. I will be posting a release candidate version next week. The
>>>NoxAnalyxe.exe program is now NoxAdmin.exe (of course the names may now
>>>change). It is really cool now. There are no more popup menus, everything
>>is
>>>all hyperlinked, color coded, and you can use the whole thing with just a
>>>mouse unless you want to edit a file. You can view or edit any file,
>>deliver
>>>held messages, and do pretty much anything from any computer anywhere. If
>>>anyone wants to use it before next week, let me know.
>>>
>>>The licensing mechanisms have changed and now require a license code and a
>>>separate key code. So before you can install the upcoming version I will
>>need
>>>to issue you new codes. The key code is keyed on your server IP address.
>So
>>if
>>>you will send me (off-list if you like) your server IP address I will send
>>you
>>>each your own codes. If your server has more than one IP address, just
>send
>>me
>>>one of them, it doesn't matter which one, as long as it is valid for
>IMail.
>>>
>>>Thanks and have a good weekend.
>>>
>>>-Brian
>>>
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RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please

2003-01-27 Thread Bill Naber 
Actually, I was going to propose the anti-MLM product off list, but since
you brought it up, when do you expect it to ship?  ;-)

-Bill



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Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please



SpamAway, hmmm. No, I had a neighbor who was selling that stuff, er... I
think
maybe that was Amway! Maybe we could market a new MLM AntiSpam product like
Spamway?

On 01/27/03 2:40pm you wrote...
>SpamAway has a nice retro feel to it.
>
>-Bill Naber
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
>Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:32 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [NoXMail] Opinions Please
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>
>
>How about SpamChomper? That has teeth in it!
>
>On 01/27/03 2:09pm you wrote...
>>SpamManager sounds good.  The "Manager" part implies options as to what
>>actions can be taken with spam.  "SpamShredder" has a little more teeth to
>>it.
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>At 03:10 PM 1/24/2003, you wrote:
>>
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>Actually I have 2 things...
>>>
>>>Item 1. It looks like the name "No-X-Mail" is out which is no surprise to
>>me.
>>>I write software ok, but marketing is not my best thing. We received some
>>>research materials back and that name has a definite problem in that
>>>"CYBERsitter" already has recognition for adult oriented material, and
the
>>>"No-X-Mail" makes it appear that the product is strictly for adult
>>messages,
>>>not necessarily spam in general.
>>>
>>>So it's down to "CYBERsitter AntiSpam" or "CYBERsitter NicerMail". We
>>already
>>>own the nicermail.* domains. That's a plus. If you do a google search on
>>>CYBERsitter AntiSpam you still get hits from a product we published in
>>1998.
>>>That's a negative. The research indicated that the NicerMail name imparts
>a
>>>more "friendly" implication. We have used "For a Family Friendly
Internet"
>>as
>>>a service mark for many years. It's on all our t-shirts and everything
;-)
>>>Also, the nicermail.com will also be used for filtered subscription email
>>>services we will be offering to our regular CYBERsitter customers. My
>>opinion
>>>is that NicerMail maybe does not imply something as "industrial strength"
>>as
>>>mail admins may want.
>>>
>>>So... opinions anyone?
>>>
>>>Item 2. I will be posting a release candidate version next week. The
>>>NoxAnalyxe.exe program is now NoxAdmin.exe (of course the names may now
>>>change). It is really cool now. There are no more popup menus, everything
>>is
>>>all hyperlinked, color coded, and you can use the whole thing with just a
>>>mouse unless you want to edit a file. You can view or edit any file,
>>deliver
>>>held messages, and do pretty much anything from any computer anywhere. If
>>>anyone wants to use it before next week, let me know.
>>>
>>>The licensing mechanisms have changed and now require a license code and
a
>>>separate key code. So before you can install the upcoming version I will
>>need
>>>to issue you new codes. The key code is keyed on your server IP address.
>So
>>if
>>>you will send me (off-list if you like) your server IP address I will
send
>>you
>>>each your own codes. If your server has more than one IP address, just
>send
>>me
>>>one of them, it doesn't matter which one, as long as it is valid for
>IMail.
>>>
>>>Thanks and have a good weekend.
>>>
>>>-Brian
>>>
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>>Mark Seagroves  voice: (865) 471-3506
>>Dir, Campus Computing   fax: (865) 471-3555
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>>Carson-Newman College
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RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please

2003-01-27 Thread John Tolmachoff 
> Actually, I was going to propose the anti-MLM product off list, but since
> you brought it up, when do you expect it to ship?  ;-)

LOL

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
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RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please

2003-01-27 Thread Patrick Childers 
Here's one:

CYBERsitter Spamacide "Kills SPAM on contact!"

~Patrick

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NoXMail] Opinions Please
> 
> 
> 
> How about SpamChomper? That has teeth in it! 
>  
> On 01/27/03 2:09pm you wrote...
> >SpamManager sounds good.  The "Manager" part implies options 
> as to what
> >actions can be taken with spam.  "SpamShredder" has a little 
> more teeth to
> >it.
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >At 03:10 PM 1/24/2003, you wrote:
> >
> >>Hi everyone,
> >>
> >>Actually I have 2 things...
> >>
> >>Item 1. It looks like the name "No-X-Mail" is out which is 
> no surprise 
> >>to
> >me.
> >>I write software ok, but marketing is not my best thing. We 
> received 
> >>some research materials back and that name has a definite 
> problem in 
> >>that "CYBERsitter" already has recognition for adult oriented 
> >>material, and the "No-X-Mail" makes it appear that the product is 
> >>strictly for adult
> >messages,
> >>not necessarily spam in general.
> >>
> >>So it's down to "CYBERsitter AntiSpam" or "CYBERsitter 
> NicerMail". We
> >already
> >>own the nicermail.* domains. That's a plus. If you do a 
> google search 
> >>on CYBERsitter AntiSpam you still get hits from a product 
> we published 
> >>in
> >1998.
> >>That's a negative. The research indicated that the NicerMail name 
> >>imparts a more "friendly" implication. We have used "For a Family 
> >>Friendly Internet"
> >as
> >>a service mark for many years. It's on all our t-shirts and 
> everything 
> >>;-) Also, the nicermail.com will also be used for filtered 
> >>subscription email services we will be offering to our regular 
> >>CYBERsitter customers. My
> >opinion
> >>is that NicerMail maybe does not imply something as "industrial 
> >>strength"
> >as
> >>mail admins may want.
> >>
> >>So... opinions anyone?
> >>
> >>Item 2. I will be posting a release candidate version next 
> week. The 
> >>NoxAnalyxe.exe program is now NoxAdmin.exe (of course the names may 
> >>now change). It is really cool now. There are no more popup menus, 
> >>everything
> >is
> >>all hyperlinked, color coded, and you can use the whole thing with 
> >>just a mouse unless you want to edit a file. You can view 
> or edit any 
> >>file,
> >deliver
> >>held messages, and do pretty much anything from any 
> computer anywhere. 
> >>If anyone wants to use it before next week, let me know.
> >>
> >>The licensing mechanisms have changed and now require a 
> license code 
> >>and a separate key code. So before you can install the upcoming 
> >>version I will
> >need
> >>to issue you new codes. The key code is keyed on your server IP 
> >>address. So
> >if
> >>you will send me (off-list if you like) your server IP 
> address I will 
> >>send
> >you
> >>each your own codes. If your server has more than one IP 
> address, just 
> >>send
> >me
> >>one of them, it doesn't matter which one, as long as it is 
> valid for 
> >>IMail.
> >>
> >>Thanks and have a good weekend.
> >>
> >>-Brian
> >>
> >>
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> >Mark Seagroves  voice: (865) 471-3506
> >Dir, Campus Computing   fax: (865) 471-3555
> >Asst Prof, Computer Science e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Carson-Newman College
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Re: [NoXMail] Opinions Please

2003-01-27 Thread Bill Landry 
Being the dull guy that I am, SpamManager suits me just fine--in fact, I
rather like it.

Bill
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Milburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please


>
> What do you think of simply CYBERsitter SpamManager? We also own
> spammanager.com.
>
> -Brian
>
> On 01/27/03 10:46am you wrote...
> >1) I'd go with "CYBERSitter AntiSpam", the NicerMail just sounds like it
> >belongs on a desktop, not a server.  The CYBERSitter AntiSpam captures
both
> >the spam and adult blocking features.
> >
> >2) (Sending off list).
> >
> >Thanks,
> >-Bill Naber
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Milburn
> >Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:11 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [NoXMail] Opinions Please
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >Actually I have 2 things...
> >
> >Item 1. It looks like the name "No-X-Mail" is out which is no surprise to
> >me.
> >I write software ok, but marketing is not my best thing. We received some
> >research materials back and that name has a definite problem in that
> >"CYBERsitter" already has recognition for adult oriented material, and
the
> >"No-X-Mail" makes it appear that the product is strictly for adult
messages,
> >not necessarily spam in general.
> >
> >So it's down to "CYBERsitter AntiSpam" or "CYBERsitter NicerMail". We
> >already
> >own the nicermail.* domains. That's a plus. If you do a google search on
> >CYBERsitter AntiSpam you still get hits from a product we published in
1998.
> >That's a negative. The research indicated that the NicerMail name imparts
a
> >more "friendly" implication. We have used "For a Family Friendly
Internet"
> >as
> >a service mark for many years. It's on all our t-shirts and everything
;-)
> >Also, the nicermail.com will also be used for filtered subscription email
> >services we will be offering to our regular CYBERsitter customers. My
> >opinion
> >is that NicerMail maybe does not imply something as "industrial strength"
as
> >mail admins may want.
> >
> >So... opinions anyone?
> >
> >Item 2. I will be posting a release candidate version next week. The
> >NoxAnalyxe.exe program is now NoxAdmin.exe (of course the names may now
> >change). It is really cool now. There are no more popup menus, everything
is
> >all hyperlinked, color coded, and you can use the whole thing with just a
> >mouse unless you want to edit a file. You can view or edit any file,
deliver
> >held messages, and do pretty much anything from any computer anywhere. If
> >anyone wants to use it before next week, let me know.
> >
> >The licensing mechanisms have changed and now require a license code and
a
> >separate key code. So before you can install the upcoming version I will
> >need
> >to issue you new codes. The key code is keyed on your server IP address.
So
> >if
> >you will send me (off-list if you like) your server IP address I will
send
> >you
> >each your own codes. If your server has more than one IP address, just
send
> >me
> >one of them, it doesn't matter which one, as long as it is valid for
IMail.
> >
> >Thanks and have a good weekend.
> >
> >-Brian
> >
> >
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RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please

2003-01-27 Thread John Tolmachoff 
> Being the dull guy that I am, SpamManager suits me just fine--in fact, I
> rather like it.

I don't know though Bill. With things they way they are now in days and
everyone finding shortcuts, do you want to be called the SpamMan? :))

Kidding of course.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


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RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please

2003-01-27 Thread David Stavert 
> What do you think of simply CYBERsitter SpamManager? We also own
> spammanager.com.

Spammanager says what it does. Doesn't sound "cute" or contrived. The
problem with names is you have to live with them. Kinda like tatoos. While
you were drunk, getting your girlfriend's name on your butt sounded prety
good. Keeping your wife from seeing it when you're sober isn't as much fun.


David

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Re: [NoXMail] Opinions Please

2003-01-27 Thread Bill Landry 
Ah, but I'm already called that, so SpamManager is very appropriate in my
situation...  ;-)

Bill
- Original Message -
From: "John Tolmachoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: [NoXMail] Opinions Please


> > Being the dull guy that I am, SpamManager suits me just fine--in fact, I
> > rather like it.
>
> I don't know though Bill. With things they way they are now in days and
> everyone finding shortcuts, do you want to be called the SpamMan? :))
>
> Kidding of course.
>
> John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
> IT Manager, Network Engineer
> RelianceSoft, Inc.
> Fullerton, CA  92835
> www.reliancesoft.com
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