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No Harm, but there isn't a complete Prince CD that I totally love. But can't comment, because I can't hear it at WORK!!!...LOL Moderator: In another week you will be like oh ok this sucks. Glad I waited -Derek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Turner, Robin T Ms CIV USA AMC Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:23 PM To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: RE: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. HIDING I loved Chaos Disorder Robin aka CherryMoon Moderator: There is nothing with that. It has a few great tracks, but as a whole its not a highly rated Prince album. Easily forgetable. Mean seriously, How many compliations have you throw Dinner with Delores on? -Derek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Turner, Robin T Ms CIV USA AMC Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:37 PM To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: RE: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. This sucks. I'll have to wait until I get home. Robin aka CherryMoon Moderator: No worries, the album sucks too. You can wait till you get home. Planet Earth is basically Chaos and Disorder Pt. 2. Only difference is they are a better choice of songs in PE. I am extremely dissapointed in PE. You would think after taking a year off he would have some strong material ready for release. There are maybe 3 gems in an album of 10 tracks. I think most of these tracks ar left over from TRC, ONA, Musicology and 3121. -Derek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yolanda Culler Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:18 PM To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. Hi! I'm currently listening to it right now at: http://music.msn.com/music/ListeningBooth?GT1=10190 Yolanda - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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And here I thought All the Critics Love him in NY ROFL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lockhart, Daryle [GSM] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:24 PM To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. Agreed. My review of Planet Earth is: what IS this? These are definitely the rehearsal sessions from Rainbow Children and Musicology. I'm happy to hear him playing interesting guitar a little more, but I wish he'd play more guitar on less hokey songs. Couldn't he have sold Sony that C-Note album or something? Rainbow Children? Then maybe people would actually HEAR that album? This Sony/Motown stuff is hard to listen to. I am clearly an indie label Prince fan, I guess, because this is two of these crappy albums in a ROW. I hope he has some bootleg something planned. That being said, I think it would take Sign O The Times Part 2 to please some of us fans. We're really hard on him. I know I am. But that's what happens. Moderator: When I heard the title Planet Earth for the first time I didn't know what to expect. I was really hoping for a SOTT Part 2. PE is a great title track and it would of been nice if he Prince had built on that. Maybe if he was a more worldly person. I he needs to get out and be the streets again. Visit a third world country. Experience the life when you don't have millions of dollars to comfort you. He is way too shelters. Worry too much about the music industry and not the art that pays the bills. I am sorry but I can't relate anymore. -Derek Moderator: No worries, the album sucks too. You can wait till you get home. Planet Earth is basically Chaos and Disorder Pt. 2. Only difference is they are a better choice of songs in PE. I am extremely dissapointed in PE. You would think after taking a year off he would have some strong material ready for release. There are maybe 3 gems in an album of 10 tracks. I think most of these tracks ar left over from TRC, ONA, Musicology and 3121. -Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hearing something live really does make a difference. That's too true. However, still it has to catch me in some kind of way around the first two go rounds, after that. :-/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of loven happiness Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:09 PM To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. Well, now THAT I disagree with. Just because something doesn't move you on first listen doesn't mean that at another time you can't appreciate its genius. Some of my favorites totally missed me on first listen. (In fact, I'm already liking Mr. Goodnight :)) Then of course, there are others (like the entire RBC album) that continue to miss me completely. I think the same sort of thing can be said for books, movies and music by other artists. Sometimes, you just have to be ready for something to move you. Moderator: I have to agree with you there. TRC took a few years for me to appreciate it. A lot of the tracks translated better live then on the album. I guess there is a time and place for everything -Derek You're so vain; I bet you think this all is about you http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ICPC_NewEngland/ - Original Message From: loven happiness [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: npny@lists.panix.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:51:46 PM Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. I agree, too. It boggles the mind how he keeps shooting himself in the foot like this. 3121 was wonderful. Musicology was a good album too, both critically acclaimed. Now, after all these exclusive (read: expensive) shows and a lot of wonderful press, this album arrives to mediocre reviews (in the press) at best. I'll buy it too, maniac that I am. Hopefully one or two of the songs have the potential to grow on me. Still, sometimes, don't you wonder what this pretty little man is thinking? Moderator: Oh! Let's talk about that last part for a sec. Grow On Me. I noticed that term being used a lot on Prince fans lately. It's not very good, but it will grow on me. That is pretty sad that anything has to grow on anyone. Its like maybe if I less to it enough I will brainwash myself into liking it... -Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have brand new copies of both, but I won't open them. Glad I did save those to my computer - especially Parade. (I keep saying I'm gonna copy everything and never did) One of these days, I'm really gonna hate myself for not doing it earlier. Wish I were a real computer buff to fix some of my files. Like the ones that shall remain unmentioned :-/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ::M::A::Y::A:: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:58 PM To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. You know if my CD copies of ATWIAD and Parade weren't so sh*tty, I'd probably listen to them more often. Moderator:I would hurt someone for a few remasters. I took it upon myself to fix Purple Rain and Sign O time with Sound Forge a few years back. The difference is amazing -Derek : M: : A: : Y: : A: : Tue Jul 17 12: 40: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED];;;, ::M::A::Y::A:: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think when you listen to something over and over again, It's not any better than the first time around. You just warm up to it because you become accustomed to listening to it. Imo, a great song is something that moves you on your first listen. If I have to listen to over and over again and then decide how i feel about it, then the song isn't doing it's job. I've listened to it about 3 times already and I'm not feeling it. It's often hard to digest a new Prince album because you know what he's capable of and we get these half-baked efforts in 3121 and PE. that album right away. Now its one of my favorites. Especially after I started learning more about music. Then I started to really understand it as a whole -Derek loven happiness wrote: Well, now THAT I disagree with. Just because something doesn't move you on first listen doesn't mean that at another time you can't appreciate its genius. Some of my favorites totally missed me on first listen. (In fact, I'm already liking Mr. Goodnight :)) Then of course, there are others (like the entire RBC album) that continue to miss me completely. I think the same sort of thing can be said for books, movies and music by other artists. Sometimes, you just have to be ready for something to move you. appreciate it. A lot of the tracks translated better live then on the album. I guess there is a time and place for everything -Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Perhaps in Las Vegas, like One Nite Alone at the Aladdin? T On 7/17/07, Turner, Robin T Ms CIV USA AMC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And here I thought All the Critics Love him in NY ROFL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lockhart, Daryle [GSM] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:24 PM To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. Agreed. My review of Planet Earth is: what IS this? These are definitely the rehearsal sessions from Rainbow Children and Musicology. I'm happy to hear him playing interesting guitar a little more, but I wish he'd play more guitar on less hokey songs. Couldn't he have sold Sony that C-Note album or something? Rainbow Children? Then maybe people would actually HEAR that album? This Sony/Motown stuff is hard to listen to. I am clearly an indie label Prince fan, I guess, because this is two of these crappy albums in a ROW. I hope he has some bootleg something planned. That being said, I think it would take Sign O The Times Part 2 to please some of us fans. We're really hard on him. I know I am. But that's what happens. Moderator: When I heard the title Planet Earth for the first time I didn't know what to expect. I was really hoping for a SOTT Part 2. PE is a great title track and it would of been nice if he Prince had built on that. Maybe if he was a more worldly person. I he needs to get out and be the streets again. Visit a third world country. Experience the life when you don't have millions of dollars to comfort you. He is way too shelters. Worry too much about the music industry and not the art that pays the bills. I am sorry but I can't relate anymore. -Derek Moderator: No worries, the album sucks too. You can wait till you get home. Planet Earth is basically Chaos and Disorder Pt. 2. Only difference is they are a better choice of songs in PE. I am extremely dissapointed in PE. You would think after taking a year off he would have some strong material ready for release. There are maybe 3 gems in an album of 10 tracks. I think most of these tracks ar left over from TRC, ONA, Musicology and 3121. -Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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2159fd1e41f690756f36dc87813833b2fa44b31bb60a9356c6f36458cb00a155cdecb80ebc68 90c1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.35 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Reply-To: npny@lists.panix.com I've always said that listening to a new Prince album for the first time is like an adventure. You're never sure exactly what you're in for, and Planet Earth is no exception. Unfortunately this is one adventure that isn't worth the trip. It has it's moments, but it also has more than its share of duds which weighs it down. Sometimes I really have to wonder what's going through Prince's head. Between the whole British newspaper thing and the album itself, it's as if he's trying to deliberately jeopardize distribution deals. What major label will want to distribute future releases? Sure, I'll by the CD when it's released and maybe I'll hear something different then, but for now I'm really disappointed. P.S. What's all this nonsense lately about Prince and Beyonce? - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Of course I understand that it has Biblical origins... still its invocation in popular music was pretty much made iconic in roots reggae. And no matter what the origins, his use of the term for something trivial is clumsy. The Lion of Judah will slay his enemies? What enemies? Sony BMG? The UK Retailers? hahahahahahahah On 7/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The term does predate Rastafarianism and Bob Marley so I'm sure his use of the phrase isn't intended to evoke either. Victor - Original Message - From: NPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:14 pm Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. To: npny@lists.panix.com I do think that musically it is much more interesting than Musicology and 3121, in terms of production, arrangements, and composition. But yeah the lyrics are really clumsy at points. I especially cringed at Lion of Judah--coming from a Caribbean background drenched in Rastafarianism roots reggae, you don't invoke the Lion of Judah for some trivial shitabout a girl. Slay my enemies--wha? Bob Marley is spinning in his grave. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I felt the same way about Parade. In fact it took me about 10 years before I could appreciate Parade. At the time of its release, I was looking for something else (more along the lines of Kiss--a very misleading single in terms of representativeness of the album) and was disappointed by Parade. Only years later have I come to appreciate that album in all its intricacies. Not saying Planet Earth is a Parade. But it IS interesting. There are enough standout tracks for me, and the rest, I'll give them a spin every now and then. I'll give it a chance to see if it's a grower. Moderator: I loved Parade from the first listen. I would sit and listen the LP over and over again. All the intricate compassition, the fun and some what personal lyrics. Wow lots of fun stuff going on there. Remaster please!!! -Derek On 7/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yo..I hated 1999, PR, Parade and Lovesexy upon first listen. Grow on me is not a derogatory term regarding the music. We in this age are so quick to take a spin, listen to downloads, leaks etc and then be meh, it stinks! without giving the music a chance to mentally marinate..to take it to a bbq for example and have an experience with it to engage you into the music. Not giving an excuse for crap music but come on now. Princes jams the last decade haven't been THAT bad. Moderator: Yeah, but they haven't been that good either. Nowadays I don't buy albums anymore why? Because there are maybe 1 or 2 songs on it that I actually like after a few listens. Not worth my 9.99 to 18.99. btw why is the msrp of Planet Earth 18.99?!? What crack is Sony smoking? No wonder there mad LOL -Derek In a message dated 7/17/07 12:01:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Moderator: Oh! Let's talk about that last part for a sec. Grow On Me. I noticed that term being used a lot on Prince fans lately. It's not very good, but it will grow on me. That is pretty sad that anything has to grow on anyone. Its like maybe if I less to it enough I will brainwash myself into liking it...-Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Moderator: I loved Parade from the first listen. I would sit and listen the LP over and over again. All the intricate compassition, the fun and some what personal lyrics. Wow lots of fun stuff going on there. Remaster please!!! -Derek Oh Lawd, I must be having a relapse or something. :-0 I couldn't agree more CM Moderator: It took a few years, but I have finally bent you to my will LOL -Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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**Moderator: It took a few years, but I have finally bent you to my will LOL -Derek** Either that, or you grew on her. ;-P hehe T Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Moderator: sounds like a fungus or better yet a Prince album! :-P -Derek -Original Message- From: Turner, Robin T Ms CIV USA AMC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:03:11 To:npny@lists.panix.com Subject: RE: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. Moderator: I loved Parade from the first listen. I would sit and listen the LP over and over again. All the intricate compassition, the fun and some what personal lyrics. Wow lots of fun stuff going on there. Remaster please!!! -Derek Oh Lawd, I must be having a relapse or something. :-0 I couldn't agree more CM Moderator: It took a few years, but I have finally bent you to my will LOL -Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It just seems maybe instead being innovative, its more routine. Used to be a time where most of the songs on an album were good to great and then he would have B side that would be killer, now its maybe two songs and the rest are fillers. Moderator: Seems to be an industry standard. The same industry Prince is fighting... -Derek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Victor Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:08 AM To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. Regardless of what musical style made the term iconic in music; we know Prince is just using religious imagery in the same way he's done countless time. I mean how is this any different than the song 7; which is full of religious imagery. As for it being used for something trivial; I don't know. I read the lyrics someone transcribed and while I'm not exactly sure what he's singing about exactly; doesn't sound trivial :) Victor NPS wrote: Of course I understand that it has Biblical origins... still its invocation in popular music was pretty much made iconic in roots reggae. And no matter what the origins, his use of the term for something trivial is clumsy. The Lion of Judah will slay his enemies? What enemies? Sony BMG? The UK Retailers? hahahahahahahah On 7/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Moderator: It took a few years, but I have finally bent you to my will LOL -Derek Uh - NO!! :-P Moderator: MWAHAHAHA! It was all part of my world domination plan :-D -Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This sucks. I'll have to wait until I get home. Robin aka CherryMoon Moderator: No worries, the album sucks too. You can wait till you get home. Planet Earth is basically Chaos and Disorder Pt. 2. Only difference is they are a better choice of songs in PE. I am extremely dissapointed in PE. You would think after taking a year off he would have some strong material ready for release. There are maybe 3 gems in an album of 10 tracks. I think most of these tracks ar left over from TRC, ONA, Musicology and 3121. -Derek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yolanda Culler Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:18 PM To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. Hi! I'm currently listening to it right now at: http://music.msn.com/music/ListeningBooth?GT1=10190 Yolanda - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I AM looking forward to the remixes of Chelsea Rodgers, now that you mention it. Man if DJ Spinna gets a hold of that it's going to be CRAZY. I will personally play a Chelsea Rodgers remix on Mobile Soul, but then my show is a lot of house, so it fits. The rest of the album? I can't use. It's really sad that I'm looking forward to someone else's version of a Prince song. Moderator: So do you think it would of made a better instrumental album? I was thinking that the other day. The arrangements rate higher to me then lyrics. For instance you can dance you Chelsea Rodgers as long as you tune out the lyrics and just dance. -Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, now THAT I disagree with. Just because something doesn't move you on first listen doesn't mean that at another time you can't appreciate its genius. Some of my favorites totally missed me on first listen. (In fact, I'm already liking Mr. Goodnight :)) Then of course, there are others (like the entire RBC album) that continue to miss me completely. I think the same sort of thing can be said for books, movies and music by other artists. Sometimes, you just have to be ready for something to move you. Moderator: I have to agree with you there. TRC took a few years for me to appreciate it. A lot of the tracks translated better live then on the album. I guess there is a time and place for everything -Derek You're so vain; I bet you think this all is about you http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ICPC_NewEngland/ - Original Message From: loven happiness [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: npny@lists.panix.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:51:46 PM Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. I agree, too. It boggles the mind how he keeps shooting himself in the foot like this. 3121 was wonderful. Musicology was a good album too, both critically acclaimed. Now, after all these exclusive (read: expensive) shows and a lot of wonderful press, this album arrives to mediocre reviews (in the press) at best. I'll buy it too, maniac that I am. Hopefully one or two of the songs have the potential to grow on me. Still, sometimes, don't you wonder what this pretty little man is thinking? Moderator: Oh! Let's talk about that last part for a sec. Grow On Me. I noticed that term being used a lot on Prince fans lately. It's not very good, but it will grow on me. That is pretty sad that anything has to grow on anyone. Its like maybe if I less to it enough I will brainwash myself into liking it... -Derek You're so vain; I bet you think this all is about you http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ICPC_NewEngland/ - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: npny@lists.panix.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:19:17 PM Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. Well Derek,,, Sadly I must say I agree with you. I heard it and will buy it when it comes out but probably won't put it back in cd player anytime soon. And that sucks because I LOVED 3121 and thought I had the old Prince back. Susanna Moderator: No worries, the album sucks too. You can wait till you get home. Planet Earth is basically Chaos and Disorder Pt. 2. Only difference is they are a better choice of songs in PE. I am extremely dissapointed in PE. You would think after taking a year off he would have some strong material ready for release. There are maybe 3 gems in an album of 10 tracks. I think most of these tracks ar left over from TRC, ONA, Musicology and 3121. -Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Honestly, I think this entire album probably sounds better live. Think about it. How many of you were feeling the 3121.com version of Guitar? I was happier with the Planet Earth version personally. Maybe that is a part of his design (doubtful), but theres a good chance this sounded better when he performed them live than in studio. Oh well, now if we could just get a concert that isn't halfway across the country (or globe for that matter). Moderator: Or reasonably Priced... I like the PE version of Guitar better then the 3121.com version -Derek Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:08:49 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. To: npny@lists.panix.com Well, now THAT I disagree with. Just because something doesn't move you on first listen doesn't mean that at another time you can't appreciate its genius. Some of my favorites totally missed me on first listen. (In fact, I'm already liking Mr. Goodnight :)) Then of course, there are others (like the entire RBC album) that continue to miss me completely. I think the same sort of thing can be said for books, movies and music by other artists. Sometimes, you just have to be ready for something to move you. Moderator: I have to agree with you there. TRC took a few years for me to appreciate it. A lot of the tracks translated better live then on the album. I guess there is a time and place for everything -Derek You're so vain; I bet you think this all is about you http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ICPC_NewEngland/ - Original Message From: loven happiness [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: npny@lists.panix.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:51:46 PM Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. I agree, too. It boggles the mind how he keeps shooting himself in the foot like this. 3121 was wonderful. Musicology was a good album too, both critically acclaimed. Now, after all these exclusive (read: expensive) shows and a lot of wonderful press, this album arrives to mediocre reviews (in the press) at best. I'll buy it too, maniac that I am. Hopefully one or two of the songs have the potential to grow on me. Still, sometimes, don't you wonder what this pretty little man is thinking? Moderator: Oh! Let's talk about that last part for a sec. Grow On Me. I noticed that term being used a lot on Prince fans lately. It's not very good, but it will grow on me. That is pretty sad that anything has to grow on anyone. Its like maybe if I less to it enough I will brainwash myself into liking it... -Derek You're so vain; I bet you think this all is about you http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ICPC_NewEngland/ - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: npny@lists.panix.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:19:17 PM Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. Well Derek,,, Sadly I must say I agree with you. I heard it and will buy it when it comes out but probably won't put it back in cd player anytime soon. And that sucks because I LOVED 3121 and thought I had the old Prince back. Susanna Moderator: No worries, the album sucks too. You can wait till you get home. Planet Earth is basically Chaos and Disorder Pt. 2. Only difference is they are a better choice of songs in PE. I am extremely dissapointed in PE. You would think after taking a year off he would have some strong material ready for release. There are maybe 3 gems in an album of 10 tracks. I think most of these tracks ar left over from TRC, ONA, Musicology and 3121. -Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You know if my CD copies of ATWIAD and Parade weren't so sh*tty, I'd probably listen to them more often. Moderator:I would hurt someone for a few remasters. I took it upon myself to fix Purple Rain and Sign O time with Sound Forge a few years back. The difference is amazing -Derek : M: : A: : Y: : A: : Tue Jul 17 12: 40: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED];;;, ::M::A::Y::A:: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think when you listen to something over and over again, It's not any better than the first time around. You just warm up to it because you become accustomed to listening to it. Imo, a great song is something that moves you on your first listen. If I have to listen to over and over again and then decide how i feel about it, then the song isn't doing it's job. I've listened to it about 3 times already and I'm not feeling it. It's often hard to digest a new Prince album because you know what he's capable of and we get these half-baked efforts in 3121 and PE. that album right away. Now its one of my favorites. Especially after I started learning more about music. Then I started to really understand it as a whole -Derek loven happiness wrote: Well, now THAT I disagree with. Just because something doesn't move you on first listen doesn't mean that at another time you can't appreciate its genius. Some of my favorites totally missed me on first listen. (In fact, I'm already liking Mr. Goodnight :)) Then of course, there are others (like the entire RBC album) that continue to miss me completely. I think the same sort of thing can be said for books, movies and music by other artists. Sometimes, you just have to be ready for something to move you. appreciate it. A lot of the tracks translated better live then on the album. I guess there is a time and place for everything -Derek You're so vain; I bet you think this all is about you http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ICPC_NewEngland/ - Original Message From: loven happiness To: npny@lists.panix.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:51:46 PM Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. I agree, too. It boggles the mind how he keeps shooting himself in the foot like this. 3121 was wonderful. Musicology was a good album too, both critically acclaimed. Now, after all these exclusive (read: expensive) shows and a lot of wonderful press, this album arrives to mediocre reviews (in the press) at best. I'll buy it too, maniac that I am. Hopefully one or two of the songs have the potential to grow on me. Still, sometimes, don't you wonder what this pretty little man is thinking? noticed that term being used a lot on Prince fans lately. It's not very good, but it will grow on me. That is pretty sad that anything has to grow on anyone. Its like maybe if I less to it enough I will brainwash myself into liking it... -Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I don't know if that's true. If you listen to the radio (which sadly I do periodically), the same songs are played over and over and over again. Not ONE of them that I hated did I grow to like. Accustomed to, maybe, but like, let alone appreciate? No. For example, anything at all by AKON. :) Even some of Prince's music has never grown into anything I enjoy. Rainbow Children in its entirety, Jughead, You Got the Look..to name a few. But sometimes, a new listen, a new time in your life, a new moodthat can change everything about how you hear something. Or read something. There have been books I could NOT get through. But later, for a variety of reasons, I'm picking it up again and getting into it. You're so vain; I bet you think this all is about you http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ICPC_NewEngland/ - Original Message From: ::M::A::Y::A:: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: npny@lists.panix.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:40:27 PM Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. I think when you listen to something over and over again, It's not any better than the first time around. You just warm up to it because you become accustomed to listening to it. Imo, a great song is something that moves you on your first listen. If I have to listen to over and over again and then decide how i feel about it, then the song isn't doing it's job. I've listened to it about 3 times already and I'm not feeling it. It's often hard to digest a new Prince album because you know what he's capable of and we get these half-baked efforts in 3121 and PE. Moderator: there are exceptions Around The World In A Day I didn't get that album right away. Now its one of my favorites. Especially after I started learning more about music. Then I started to really understand it as a whole -Derek loven happiness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, now THAT I disagree with. Just because something doesn't move you on first listen doesn't mean that at another time you can't appreciate its genius. Some of my favorites totally missed me on first listen. (In fact, I'm already liking Mr. Goodnight :)) Then of course, there are others (like the entire RBC album) that continue to miss me completely. I think the same sort of thing can be said for books, movies and music by other artists. Sometimes, you just have to be ready for something to move you. appreciate it. A lot of the tracks translated better live then on the album. I guess there is a time and place for everything -Derek You're so vain; I bet you think this all is about you http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ICPC_NewEngland/ - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yo..I hated 1999, PR, Parade and Lovesexy upon first listen. Grow on me is not a derogatory term regarding the music. We in this age are so quick to take a spin, listen to downloads, leaks etc and then be meh, it stinks! without giving the music a chance to mentally marinate..to take it to a bbq for example and have an experience with it to engage you into the music. Not giving an excuse for crap music but come on now. Princes jams the last decade haven't been THAT bad. Moderator: Yeah, but they haven't been that good either. Nowadays I don't buy albums anymore why? Because there are maybe 1 or 2 songs on it that I actually like after a few listens. Not worth my 9.99 to 18.99. btw why is the msrp of Planet Earth 18.99?!? What crack is Sony smoking? No wonder there mad LOL -Derek In a message dated 7/17/07 12:01:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Moderator: Oh! Let's talk about that last part for a sec. Grow On Me. I noticed that term being used a lot on Prince fans lately. It's not very good, but it will grow on me. That is pretty sad that anything has to grow on anyone. Its like maybe if I less to it enough I will brainwash myself into liking it...-Derek ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In a message dated 7/17/07 12:13:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, now THAT I disagree with. Just because something doesn't move you on first listen doesn't mean that at another time you can't appreciate its genius. I don't think its necessary genius. I can see appreciating it for what it is but not everything he does is genius (not saying you're saying that but I'm just saying just in case lol) Moderator: GENIUS! -Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I do think that musically it is much more interesting than Musicology and 3121, in terms of production, arrangements, and composition. But yeah the lyrics are really clumsy at points. I especially cringed at Lion of Judah--coming from a Caribbean background drenched in Rastafarianism roots reggae, you don't invoke the Lion of Judah for some trivial shit about a girl. Slay my enemies--wha? Bob Marley is spinning in his grave. On 7/17/07, NPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dayum, D! I think that's pretty harsh. I wouldn't say it's a masterpiece but I do think the music on it is a lot more interesting (in terms of bridges, key changes, solos, and orchestration) than Musicology and 3121, especially on tracks like Planet Earth and Somewhere Here On Earth--two of my favorite tracks on the album. My other favorites are Future Baby Mama and Chelsea Rodgers--one a classic and classy slow jam (even if it has a ghetto title) and the other a great dance track, something Prince hasn't successfully done in ages. I do think the lyrics on most of the album are pretty clumsy, heavy handed, and lack the kind of double entendre, creative word play, and poetry that Prince mastered early in his craft. All in all, it meets my 3-song minimum. Moderator: So do you think it would of made a better instrumental album? I was thinking that the other day. The arrangements rate higher to me then lyrics. For instance you can dance you Chelsea Rodgers as long as you tune out the lyrics and just dance. -Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The term does predate Rastafarianism and Bob Marley so I'm sure his use of the phrase isn't intended to evoke either. Victor - Original Message - From: NPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:14 pm Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it. To: npny@lists.panix.com I do think that musically it is much more interesting than Musicology and 3121, in terms of production, arrangements, and composition. But yeah the lyrics are really clumsy at points. I especially cringed at Lion of Judah--coming from a Caribbean background drenched in Rastafarianism roots reggae, you don't invoke the Lion of Judah for some trivial shitabout a girl. Slay my enemies--wha? Bob Marley is spinning in his grave. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
