[NSP] Re: Transporting pipes
Hear, hear everything so far said about hand luggage ... .. but I'd agree with Neil's hard case instincts if there's ANY risk of pipes being consigned to the hold and, thus, the awesome destructive power of baggage-handling machines. Anyone who's ever witnessed a rucksack or ski/boot bag get snagged to a halt, by a strap or handle loop, on a luggage carousel belt (only to be pummelled mercilessly by the relentless tide of following suitcases) will have an inkling of what I mean. In this situation, whilst hard cases erode your weight allowance, I'd regard them as de rigueur. And the more resilient the better (e.g. fibre-glass probably stronger than wood). Nor forget to pay particular attention to cushioning the contents against prolonged mechanical vibration whilst in the hold (even to using dirty laundry on the homeward leg ;). To assess the risk of them not being allowed as hand-luggage, of course, you'd be wise to hit the web and check out the policies of all carriers with whom you expect to travel. Little things like oil, for instance, may violate anti-terrorist bottle rules and require forethought in packing them so as not to jeopardise your pipes' hand-luggage status. Oh, and I loved Matt's gun-case idea which vividly reminded me of a tip for travellers obliged to consign valuable equipment to the hold - "Secure your checked bags -- fly with a gun" (http://www.travelsuperlink.com/forum/topic.php?id=26). All perfectly serious, I assure you ! :p HTH, Steve Collins All hail the much-aliased Law of Universal Cussedness (NPL version) ... Law: In any set of circumstances, where more than one outcome is equiprobable, the least beneficial will always result Lemma: The above Law will always apply except when, by appearing not to apply, it will, in the end, do you greater dirt To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: solo vs. group playing
Dear Richard, Thanks for the support and fair assessment of what happened at the Monday meeting. I am afraid that Barry has his own axe to grind and cross to bear?and in trying to support his idea I have fallen foul of his antagonism against me again when I was trying to build a bridge between him and myself. The original intention of the Monday meeting when I initiated it thirty years ago now was to use it as a group instructional session as in the workshops that are part of the current pipng courses and I still see that as part of the reason for having the Monday meeting. The numbers attending these meetings vary throughout the year and this last meeting was most likely affected by the aftermath of the flooding and being in a new venue. If we attract ten percent of the local population of about two hundred pipers this works out over the year what we get to our meetings on both the Monday and the Saturday and is not a bad turnout. Colin R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 23:22 Subject: [NSP] Re: solo vs. group playing Hello All,In respect of the postings by Colin and Barry:I really don't want to get involved in what is clearly a fairly fundamental and personal disagreement, but I was at the Morpeth meeting last night and I feel I need to clarify something.Colin offered the opportunity for solo playing; the offer was accepted by consent of the group and only those who wanted to do so did in fact play. There was no pressure whatsoever to play, and that was completely clear to everyone. I thought the offer was a fair one, and Colin also made it clear from the outset that no criticism would be made.The offer was such that I was motivated to play, although I would normally shun of the idea of solo or competitive playing as I would shun a specimen of Rattus Rattus who had just stepped ashore and announced that he had a few boils and a bit of a cough.One person specifically asked for comment, before playing, and explained their reason for doing so. Th! e subsequent comment was constructive, fairly given and carefully justified. The rest of those who played received nothing but uncritical acceptance and tacit encouragement for playing.RichardSee your new look Tiscali Homepage - http://www.tiscali.co.uk ___To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. --
[NSP] Re: Transporting pipes
Dear Neil, I have taken my pipes with my hand luggage on a number of flights without any problem with the drones and chanter enclosed in plastic piping and wrappred in cloth to prevent them rattling which will also help to stablilise humidity variations. With the pipes in the cabin there should not be any problem with humidity anyway. The bellows can be put in the hold with your other luggage. I do not use a hard case for my pipes now as I find the soft gig bags as for alto sax or other small instruments more convenient and with the drones and chanter protected with the plastic tubing the pipes are quite safe. Cheers, Colin R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:53 Subject: [NSP] Transporting pipes I have a practical question. Can anyone suggest a decent hard case that i could use to transport a set of pipes in as hand luggage on a longhaul flight? What do other people use? Also, I'll be travelling for 20-30 hours, and would appreciate any hints on how to minimize humidity issues/effects on the pipes. Cheers - Neil -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. --
[NSP] Re: Transporting pipes
Check with your airline that they will accept it as hand luggage first, they vary, and my experience has been mixed. It often just depends on the disposition of the person who checks you in. I have had my Border pipes (long Savage & Hoy case) in the hold reluctantly but without damage, but I've heard other tales. In the UK the Musicians' Union has cooperated with the air travel industry to produce guidelines which members can show to any check-in staff unwilling to accept instruments as hand luggage. On one occasion I packed mine in a soft hold-all to take on board because of size restrictions. Many Uilleann pipers prefer a hard gun-case, which must have led to interesting experiences at airports during the height of the Irish troubles. On 10/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a practical question. >Can anyone suggest a decent hard case that i could use to transport a >set of pipes in as hand luggage on a longhaul flight? What do other >people use? >Also, I'll be travelling for 20-30 hours, and would appreciate any >hints on how to minimize humidity issues/effects on the pipes. >Cheers - Neil > >-- > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >
