[NSP] Re: new group
Are they rivalists as well as revivalists? --- On Mon, 23/5/11, Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com Subject: [NSP] Re: new group To: Mark Stayton mark.stay...@pipersgathering.org Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Monday, 23 May, 2011, 21:42 On 23 May 2011, at 21:28, Mark Stayton wrote: Is this different than the Proper Northumbrian Pipers group? It's a slightly different chapel but we worship the same God. Francis To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: new group
On 24 May 2011, at 08:25, Anthony Robb wrote: Are they rivalists as well as revivalists? Oh, just taking a detached view . . . For enquiring minds the best demonstration of true detached fingering technique is Helen Fish's admirable video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7paLft9_ms Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: tune of the month
Perhaps one of the reasons the melodeon group is so friendly is that they don't have competition built into their culture the way pipers do. (For a diatribe on the subject see my editorial at [2]www.theotherpipers.org). Excellent article! Csírz To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: tune of the month
Since I've never felt the urge to compete, perhaps I shouldn't really comment. But from what I've observed, the competition element in the NSP world is nothing like that in GHB piping. It seems to me that NSP competition is far more about participation in traditional events and receiving some personal endorsement of achievement, rather than defeating the opposition. I've no idea what melodeon culture and tradition is like, but evidently it cannot be ancient, as piping traditions are. If there are strong feelings about how things should be done (preferably expressed in a friendly way, but I won't lose sleep if they are not), I'm interested and glad to read them in this forum. This is essentially a pretty friendly place, though with the occasional angry outburst. Rather like any average marriage, I guess. Love n' Peace to all, Francis On 24 May 2011, at 09:33, christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu wrote: Perhaps one of the reasons the melodeon group is so friendly is that they don't have competition built into their culture the way pipers do. (For a diatribe on the subject see my editorial at [2]www.theotherpipers.org). Excellent article! Csírz To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: tune of the month
Nice one Francis. Happy daze. -Original Message- From: Francis Wood [mailto:oatenp...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 11:23 AM To: BIRCH Christopher (DGT) Cc: dir...@gmail.com; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: tune of the month Since I've never felt the urge to compete, perhaps I shouldn't really comment. But from what I've observed, the competition element in the NSP world is nothing like that in GHB piping. It seems to me that NSP competition is far more about participation in traditional events and receiving some personal endorsement of achievement, rather than defeating the opposition. I've no idea what melodeon culture and tradition is like, but evidently it cannot be ancient, as piping traditions are. If there are strong feelings about how things should be done (preferably expressed in a friendly way, but I won't lose sleep if they are not), I'm interested and glad to read them in this forum. This is essentially a pretty friendly place, though with the occasional angry outburst. Rather like any average marriage, I guess. Love n' Peace to all, Francis On 24 May 2011, at 09:33, christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu wrote: Perhaps one of the reasons the melodeon group is so friendly is that they don't have competition built into their culture the way pipers do. (For a diatribe on the subject see my editorial at [2]www.theotherpipers.org). Excellent article! Csírz To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: tune of the month
Free-reed instruments in Europe are only a half-century or less younger than keyed NSP, mind John From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Francis Wood [oatenp...@googlemail.com] Sent: 24 May 2011 10:23 To: christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu Cc: dir...@gmail.com; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: tune of the month Since I've never felt the urge to compete, perhaps I shouldn't really comment. But from what I've observed, the competition element in the NSP world is nothing like that in GHB piping. It seems to me that NSP competition is far more about participation in traditional events and receiving some personal endorsement of achievement, rather than defeating the opposition. I've no idea what melodeon culture and tradition is like, but evidently it cannot be ancient, as piping traditions are. If there are strong feelings about how things should be done (preferably expressed in a friendly way, but I won't lose sleep if they are not), I'm interested and glad to read them in this forum. This is essentially a pretty friendly place, though with the occasional angry outburst. Rather like any average marriage, I guess. Love n' Peace to all, Francis On 24 May 2011, at 09:33, christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu wrote: Perhaps one of the reasons the melodeon group is so friendly is that they don't have competition built into their culture the way pipers do. (For a diatribe on the subject see my editorial at [2]www.theotherpipers.org). Excellent article! Csírz To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: tune of the month
On 24 May 2011, at 11:04, Gibbons, John wrote: Free-reed instruments in Europe are only a half-century or less younger than keyed NSP, mind Well OK . . a good point. But concertinas were infants at a time when smallpipes had an ancient lineage! Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] re-Tune of the Month
The only competitive element in some melodeon circles is to be the one who can play louder, which thankfully is not normally an issue in nsp's! Hence the expression Wall to wall melodeons. But there are more and more superb box players out there, including some quiet ones. Love and piece indeed... did you have any particular piece in mind this month, Francis? Richard. On 24/05/2011 10:23, Francis Wood wrote: Since I've never felt the urge to compete, perhaps I shouldn't really comment. But from what I've observed, the competition element in the NSP world is nothing like that in GHB piping. It seems to me that NSP competition is far more about participation in traditional events and receiving some personal endorsement of achievement, rather than defeating the opposition. I've no idea what melodeon culture and tradition is like, but evidently it cannot be ancient, as piping traditions are. If there are strong feelings about how things should be done (preferably expressed in a friendly way, but I won't lose sleep if they are not), I'm interested and glad to read them in this forum. This is essentially a pretty friendly place, though with the occasional angry outburst. Rather like any average marriage, I guess. Love n' Peace to all, Francis On 24 May 2011, at 09:33,christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu wrote: Perhaps one of the reasons the melodeon group is so friendly is that they don't have competition built into their culture the way pipers do. (For a diatribe on the subject see my editorial at [2]www.theotherpipers.org). Excellent article! Csírz To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: re-Tune of the Month
On 24 May 2011, at 13:12, Richard York wrote: Love and piece indeed... did you have any particular piece in mind this month, Francis? Well, as a matter of fact, yes! The last 'piece' I played was 'Handel's Water Piece', a duet arrangement of Handels 2nd Water Music Suite (the Ouverture), found in Robert Bewick's manuscript tunebooks. Chris Evans and I did that at Oxford Pipeworks on Saturday. Lots of fun to play. Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] article by J.D.
Hi John, I agree wholeheartedly -- I can't think of a more wondrous thing than pipes played with emotion and soul -- if they are in tune that is --- Dave S On 5/23/2011 6:52 PM, John Dally wrote: Melodeon.net is a remarkably interesting and helpful resource if you're a box player. One of the things they do is have a tune of the month where members vote on a tune out of a list of four and then everyone is invited to post their rendition of it on [1]youtube.com. The moderators also select a theme, like Irish tunes or wedding tunes or something like that. I have found this to be a real boost to my learning to play the melodeon, learning tunes, connecting with folks around the world, getting good advice. The remarkable thing is that I haven't come across a negative comment or any comment that wasn't made with the best intentions. Of course, people do have their favorite instruments and styles, etc., and some have their bugaboos, but overall it's a very encouraging internet community. Perhaps, we could doing something like this here on the NSP newsgroup. If even only a few people think this is a good idea and want to participate I think it would be a good way to keep the conversation going and help each other out. It also gives something for people to work towards, like a competition without the stress and judgement. Perhaps one of the reasons the melodeon group is so friendly is that they don't have competition built into their culture the way pipers do. (For a diatribe on the subject see my editorial at [2]www.theotherpipers.org). Anyway, if this seems like an interesting idea to enough people perhaps we could name a tune of the month for June by this coming weekend. cheers, John Dally -- References 1. http://youtube.com/ 2. http://www.theotherpipers.org/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3653 - Release Date: 05/22/11
[NSP] Tune of the Month: Felton Lonnen
As suggested, why don't those of us who want to participate in the TOTM put a video of Felton Lonnen up on [1]www.youtube.com during the month of June. Be sure to post a link here so that we all know about it. You might also want to post a link on your favorite Face Book NSP group page. I would respectfully suggest that there be no restrictions as to how many parts, the setting, the key of the tune or the key of the instrument, or style. The idea here is to be as inclusive as possible, to share a good tune, to encourage pipers at all levels of skill, to give us all a better sense of community, and for those of us not living somewhere near Morpeth to get a few positive and helpful comments on our playing. Perhaps someone who knows all about these things could give us a history of the tune, explain the name, list recordings, ms sources, even technical advice, anything that might be interesting or helpful for those of us participating. Because this tune can be played on the Northumbrian half-long pipes, if anyone decides to make a video of the tune played on them, I would encourage them to let us know by posting a link here. All the best, John Dally -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Tune of the Month: Felton Lonnen
John's idea of comparing performances of the same piece on NSP and BP is an interesting one; I find that apparently identical settings, suitably transposed, will have a very different musical feel on the 2 instruments, even though they look similar on the page, and feel similar beneath the fingers. The wholly staccato (wooly staccato in my case) or wholly legato versions of the same melody have a very different sound. John -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of John Dally Sent: 24 May 2011 16:51 To: NSP group Subject: [NSP] Tune of the Month: Felton Lonnen As suggested, why don't those of us who want to participate in the TOTM put a video of Felton Lonnen up on [1]www.youtube.com during the month of June. Be sure to post a link here so that we all know about it. You might also want to post a link on your favorite Face Book NSP group page. I would respectfully suggest that there be no restrictions as to how many parts, the setting, the key of the tune or the key of the instrument, or style. The idea here is to be as inclusive as possible, to share a good tune, to encourage pipers at all levels of skill, to give us all a better sense of community, and for those of us not living somewhere near Morpeth to get a few positive and helpful comments on our playing. Perhaps someone who knows all about these things could give us a history of the tune, explain the name, list recordings, ms sources, even technical advice, anything that might be interesting or helpful for those of us participating. Because this tune can be played on the Northumbrian half-long pipes, if anyone decides to make a video of the tune played on them, I would encourage them to let us know by posting a link here. All the best, John Dally -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: new group
I'm sensing a Judean Peoples' Front vs. Peoples' Front of Judea schism here... Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 16:28:34 -0400 To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu From: mark.stay...@pipersgathering.org Subject: [NSP] Re: new group Is this different than the Proper Northumbrian Pipers group? On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Inky- Adrian [1]inkyadr...@googlemail.com wrote: A new Facebook group The Proper Northumberland Small-pipe Players has been founded. -- References 1. mailto:inkyadr...@googlemail.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[NSP] Re: new group
On 24 May 2011, at 20:24, Matthew Boris wrote: I'm sensing a Judean Peoples' Front vs. Peoples' Front of Judea schism here... Excellent! What has the NPS ever done for us ? Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: new group
This is beginning to look like a circular firing squad. ;-) On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Francis Wood [1]oatenp...@googlemail.com wrote: On 24 May 2011, at 20:24, Matthew Boris wrote: I'm sensing a Judean Peoples' Front vs. Peoples' Front of Judea schism here... Excellent! What has the NPS ever done for us ? Francis To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:oatenp...@googlemail.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: new group
Your death will stand as a landmark in the continuing struggle to liberate the Northumbrian Smallpipes from other Northumbrian smallpipers, excluding those concerned with cultural preservation, reed design, bellows repair, archival research and any other pipers contributing to Northubrian smallpiping of closed, open, semi-closed, all-thumbs, and fingerless fingering. Signed, on behalf of the P. N. P., etc. And I'd just like to add, on a personal note, my own admiration, for what you're doing for us, on what must be, after all, for you a very difficult time Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 20:32:50 +0100 To: matthew_p...@hotmail.com CC: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu From: oatenp...@googlemail.com Subject: [NSP] Re: new group On 24 May 2011, at 20:24, Matthew Boris wrote: I'm sensing a Judean Peoples' Front vs. Peoples' Front of Judea schism here... Excellent! What has the NPS ever done for us ? Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[NSP] Re: new group
On 24 May 2011, Francis Wood wrote: What has the NPS ever done for us ? It has been said (not by me) Ask not what the NPS has done for you, but what you could do for the NPS Discuss (politely). Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] re message
In reply to Julia's point re Ask not..., wouldn't we have a wonderfully positive society if everyone took that catch phrase to heart! Peter. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6149 (20110524) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. [1]http://www.eset.com -- References 1. http://www.eset.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
