[NSP] Another Roxburgh Castle
Here's my somewhat plodding effort. I recorded this mostly so I could listen back for my own education, posting here in a fit of foolhardiness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3qInzAf6EE Cheers, Edric. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: PS Forum
Thanks, Tim . . . that is certainly easier to find. One further possible improvement would be to add the Forum to the links on the left. I very much agree with Mike over the usefulness of the Forum space with its ability to present images and sound. How can any musical instrument-based discussion really thrive these days without such a facility? I don't see the Forum as in any way replacing the Dartmouth list, which remains a good conversational medium. It also has the advantage of simplicity and is well suited for most of its content which is entirely ephemeral. Its disadvantage is that it cannot preserve and organise anything that is worth keeping. Its archive is useful up to a point, although searches are likely to miss much of what is valuable. The problem is that topics evolve very far from their original header. One other disadvantage worth noting is that once a posting to Dartmouth has been sent, it is there permanently. There is much lying around on those electronic shelves which does nobody any credit. At present the NPS Forum is greatly under-used, despite its usefulness. I think it may take time before it is more widely adopted. What would help here is a _brief_ idiot-proof guide. As is well known you can't fully idiot-proof anything because they keep inventing cleverer idiots. However, perhaps an attempt could be made. Experienced forum users will assert that it's an entirely simple matter - an RTFM issue really. I disagree. Two suggestions for encouraging Forum use: - A simple guide, presented on Dartmouth, together with an evolving one on the Forum itself. (Mike, did I see your hand go up?) - Announcement on Dartmouth of any new topic or significant addition to the Forum which the provider thinks may be of general interest. Francis On 4 Jul 2011, at 07:36, Tim Rolls wrote: Hi John, Mike and anyone else who's interested, Entry to the NPS forum, open to all, is now also on the Home page of the NPS website, and so easier to find as you suggest, so you can now find it at http://www.northumbrianpipers.org.uk/ or go straight there at http://www.northumbrianpipers.org.uk/pipersforum/ There are links to Adrian's Forum, and many other things, including more tune collections than you have time to read through, on the Links page of the NPS website http://www.northumbrianpipers.org.uk/index.php?page=Links Any other suggestions for improving the site, or volunteers to look after any sections, existing or new, gratefully accepted cheers, Tim On 3 Jul 2011, at 23:22, smallpi...@machineconcepts.co.uk wrote: Hi John The forum on the NPS web site is open to all (you just have to register) For some reason it is tucked away on the members page - I think that it should be on the front page! Currently things are a bit quiet but I hope that it will perk up once people try it and like it. It is certanly better for posting pictures, music and the threads are likely to be more coherent. It will only be useful if it is well used. I would like to have the chance to discuss various elements of pipemaking with other makers but unless others make an effort to get involved it will just wither. http://www.northumbrianpipers.org.uk/pipersforum/index.php Adrian's forum is not part of the NPS web site and is really a place for him to discuss his opinions with other like minds. Mike Quoting John Dally dir...@gmail.com: Is this Mike Nelson? If so, hello Mike. Thanks for your efforts with the NPS website. I'm confused. There are two forums on the NPS website. One is for members, and it's difficult to find. The other is Adrian's and it's easy to find. Is this correct? I get the feeling that the members' forum is for ordinary pipers, like me, and Adrian's is for extraordinary pipers, like him, otherwise why would there be two forums? Are they both open to the general public? Many thanks, John On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, smallpi...@machineconcepts.co.uk wrote: And an even better case for posting it on the NPS forum (its open to non members) Quoting Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com: On 1 Jul 2011, at 20:39, david...@pt.lu wrote: How about posting the article here? There are lots of people who are interested but are not NPS members Hi Dave, I think you've made quite a good case here for joining the NPS. Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~**wbc/lute-admin/index.htmlhttp://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Another Roxburgh Castle
On 4 Jul 2011, at 08:10, Edric Ellis wrote: Here's my somewhat plodding effort. I really like this. Very neat, very musical. Actually, I prefer the tune un-ranted, though I've enjoyed the other versions. I recorded this mostly so I could listen back for my own education, As Robert Burns said of YouTube: O wad some Power the giftie gie us To see oursels as ithers see us! It wad frae monie a blunder free us, An' foolish notion: Your version has none of the latter! Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: [NPS-Discussion] Re: PS Forum
- Announcement on Dartmouth of any new topic or significant addition to the Forum which the provider thinks may be of general interest. That would be very helpful. One of the major advantages of the email list is that you don't have to go looking for it. Chris To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Roxborough Castle TOTM
Wot, no comments? This certainly deserves some appreciation! Nice account, John. Very toe-tapping. I particularly admire your very economical finger movements. A very good basis for effective closed-fingering and it certainly shows up well in the playing here. Congratulations! Francis On 3 Jul 2011, at 22:16, John Dally wrote: Here's my offering for the TOTM. [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK5xTxCFvOY I played these tunes in what I hope is a rant rhythm. -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK5xTxCFvOY To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] TOTM for July
Hello John Thank you very much for giving us those two tunes and taking on the rant rhythm which brings back so many memories of nights shared with the old guys. That particular set (done in reverse order) was a turning point for me in my piping career when I attempted to join in with Archie Bertram, John Armstrong of Carrick. Joe Hutton, Will Atkinson and Willy Taylor and, if memory serves, John and Kevin Doonan at Archie's house 35(?) years ago. The room was lifting, the tunes were pulsing and thanks to a mixture of surprise, excitement and inexperience with that style I floundered my way through them. Until then I hadn't a clue as to how the Hesleyside reel was played on home turf so to speak. I vowed then to get to grips with that way of playing 'reels' and to be quite honest it has taken me an awful lot longer than it seems to have taken you. Congratulations! Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: [NPS-Discussion] Re: PS Forum
A simple way of automating this would be to register the Dartmouth list email address to receive new topic and new message notification from the NPS forum. Quoting ch...@harris405.plus.com: - Announcement on Dartmouth of any new topic or significant addition to the Forum which the provider thinks may be of general interest. That would be very helpful. One of the major advantages of the email list is that you don't have to go looking for it. Chris To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: [NPS-Discussion] Re: PS Forum
That would work very efficiently . . . in fact, probably too efficiently. Wouldn't it be better to leave it to the individual writer to decide whether they want their addition to the forum announced on Dartmouth? And isn't there a facility for the individual reader to opt in to an email alert facility? At the moment, theres an awful lot of duplication on the Dartmouth NSP Discussion lists, about which, I'll post separately. Francis On 4 Jul 2011, at 13:29, smallpi...@machineconcepts.co.uk wrote: A simple way of automating this would be to register the Dartmouth list email address to receive new topic and new message notification from the NPS forum. Quoting ch...@harris405.plus.com: - Announcement on Dartmouth of any new topic or significant addition to the Forum which the provider thinks may be of general interest. That would be very helpful. One of the major advantages of the email list is that you don't have to go looking for it. Chris To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: [NPS-Discussion] Re: PS Forum
Quoting Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com: That would work very efficiently . . . in fact, probably too efficiently. Wouldn't it be better to leave it to the individual writer to decide whether they want their addition to the forum announced on Dartmouth? And isn't there a facility for the individual reader to opt in to an email alert facility? I have tried replying to this once already. Prepare for some nonsense. Be alert, Britain needs lerts. This is because if I use the word subscrib near the top of the message the list thinks I am trying to subscrib... To get alerts: Go to the bottom of the forum and click subscribe. Barry To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: [NPS-Discussion] NSP Lists duplication
On 4 Jul 2011, Francis Wood wrote: The Dartmouth list is for anyone interested in Northmbrian Small-pipes. It is administered and monitored entirely from without NPS membership. No member or officer of the society has any say in how it is run, although several (only about half) committee members read it and some contribute (obviously). Very occasionally Wayne (who does run it) and I consult on whether names are actual people or not, that is all. The NPS Discussion list was subsequently established for Society-specific discussion. I remain as a subscriber to the second list because I don't know whether it still is useful. I have no means of knowing. Tim I set it up, and do the necessary admin (mostly non-subscribers trying to cross post from Dartmouth) to keep NPS announcements / politics from annoying non- members. It presently has only 89 subscribers. As a consequence it is of little use to reach most NPS members. It was also set up as a stop-gap until a discussion forum could be activated on the NPS website, where political discussions could be held in separate threads which need not bother those had no interest. If (and this is not for me to decide, but NPS-discussion subscribers) we have reached the point where it could realistically be suspended, we can do so. What I would actually propose (wearing my secretarial hat for a moment) is to convert it to an NPS-info list, subscribe all NPS members who have an email address unless they opt out, and use it for Society announcements with the reply function set to come to the sec.only. That is to say, not a discussion list, but an info-list, with discussions pointed to the website forum. This would have to be passed by the committee and announced in the NL, since it is a further change, so it isn't going to happen now before the autumn, although we (the 89 subscribers) could all agree that NPS Discussion has passed its use-by date, and agree not to post to it, but rather use the forum. Hope this helps Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: [NPS-Discussion] NSP Lists duplication
Thanks Julia. A really helpful response. I'm in favour of your suggestions. Francis On 4 Jul 2011, at 14:23, Julia Say wrote: On 4 Jul 2011, Francis Wood wrote: The Dartmouth list is for anyone interested in Northmbrian Small-pipes. It is administered and monitored entirely from without NPS membership. No member or officer of the society has any say in how it is run, although several (only about half) committee members read it and some contribute (obviously). Very occasionally Wayne (who does run it) and I consult on whether names are actual people or not, that is all. The NPS Discussion list was subsequently established for Society-specific discussion. I remain as a subscriber to the second list because I don't know whether it still is useful. I have no means of knowing. Tim I set it up, and do the necessary admin (mostly non-subscribers trying to cross post from Dartmouth) to keep NPS announcements / politics from annoying non- members. It presently has only 89 subscribers. As a consequence it is of little use to reach most NPS members. It was also set up as a stop-gap until a discussion forum could be activated on the NPS website, where political discussions could be held in separate threads which need not bother those had no interest. If (and this is not for me to decide, but NPS-discussion subscribers) we have reached the point where it could realistically be suspended, we can do so. What I would actually propose (wearing my secretarial hat for a moment) is to convert it to an NPS-info list, subscribe all NPS members who have an email address unless they opt out, and use it for Society announcements with the reply function set to come to the sec.only. That is to say, not a discussion list, but an info-list, with discussions pointed to the website forum. This would have to be passed by the committee and announced in the NL, since it is a further change, so it isn't going to happen now before the autumn, although we (the 89 subscribers) could all agree that NPS Discussion has passed its use-by date, and agree not to post to it, but rather use the forum. Hope this helps Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Another Roxburgh Castle
Thanks for posting, Edric. Your blowing is very steady and your pipes sound great to me. Intonation--I too discovered that recording yourself really shows up intonation--I must work on that. cheers, John On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Edric Ellis [1]edric.el...@mathworks.co.uk wrote: Here's my somewhat plodding effort. I recorded this mostly so I could listen back for my own education, posting here in a fit of foolhardiness. [2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3qInzAf6EE Cheers, Edric. To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:edric.el...@mathworks.co.uk 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3qInzAf6EE 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
