[NSP] Re: small coals, and the peacock following the hen

2012-08-16 Thread Derek Lofthouse

Again, thanks all for the advice.
I tried all 3 tunes with both Gg and Aa drones, both set ups worked okay. I 
think i prefered the Gg sound though. Basically it is the border pipe set 
up, a tone lower.

I suspect i better be able to play all 3 tunes by october though.


Derek

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From: "Julia Say" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 2:32 PM
To: "Dartmouth NPS" 
Subject: [NSP] Re: small coals, and the peacock following the hen


On 15 Aug 2012, Matt Seattle wrote:


   And neither does playing Cuckold or Peacock on NSP against A drones
   sound nasty, but it does miss a lot of the musical effect of these
   tunes, the contrasting minor/major strains


Coincidentally (yes, really) I spent part of this afternoon playing 
Peacock

followed the Hen with Colin R.
We tried both G and A drones, both with and without the dominant d or e 
harmony

running.

We also tried playing the only f# (in the B part) as a natural, to test if 
it was 




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[NSP] Re: small coals, and the peacock following the hen

2012-08-15 Thread DEREK LOFTHOUSE
Thanks Matt, Anthony, John and Kevin for your thoughts on these tunes. I will 
try the ideas you guys have suggested and I guess go with what works best for 
me.
I guess it a matter of what you are used to, when i play border pipes I have no 
problem with 'discordant' drones, ex. playing in Bm with A drones, but i am 
used to just playing mainly G and D tunes (with the occassional venture into A 
and E)on the NSP with the appropriate drones. I'll and do more of it and maybe 
it will start sounding better to me.

A question I forgot to ask though, are these 2 tunes played much?

thanks again

Derek

- Original Message -
From: "Matt Seattle" 
To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:27:50 AM
Subject: [NSP] Re: small coals, and the peacock following the hen

   On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Anthony Robb
   <[1]anth...@robbpipes.com> wrote:


Here is what Forster Charlton, Colin Ross and Roland Wright put
 in the
introduction to the second edition to the NPS 1st Tune Book:
"Small Coals and Little Money and Cuckold Come Out The Amrey are
 in an
unusual mode for which the drones should be tuned to the notes A
 and E.
Any drone which will not tune to either of these two notes is
 best shut
off!"
Personally, I agree - others don't.

   Where I disagree is in saying they are in the same mode. Small Coals is
   a straightforward A minor tune, although with no 6th (F#) it's neither
   dorian nor aeolian mode. There is a case for tuning the drones to A for
   Small Coals if you insist on the drones being concordant with the home
   key or mode of the tune. I don't personally find that an issue, and
   neither do other bagpipe traditions, where drones are what drones were
   meant to be - fixed, so that tunes in different modes sound like they
   are in different modes.
   For me, Cuckold is a mixed-mode tune with alternating A minor and C
   major strains, where A drones have the effect of masking the C major
   sections because, over A drones, these also sound like A minor. So, if
   I were an NSP player, I'd leave the drones in G for this tune, which I
   am well aware is heresy.
   [2]http://youtu.be/71KwJ11O0fI

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References

   1. mailto:anth...@robbpipes.com
   2. http://youtu.be/71KwJ11O0fI


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[NSP] small coals, and the peacock following the hen

2012-08-14 Thread DEREK LOFTHOUSE
 I decided to play through the contents of the first 30 tunes book, just to 
see how many of them i actually knew, or could play. Fortunately i've played 
most of them. There are only 2 that i had never looked at, as the title 
suggests, Small coals and little money, and the Peacock followed the hen. 
 Both of these appear to be what (I think) Matt calls bi-modal. switching 
between G and A minor, they sort of resolve to G, although the g drones (to me 
anyway) dont always seem to work. What drones do people use on these tunes? 
Also how fast should they be played. I've heard the Tickel version of small 
coals, but should it really be that fast?

thanks in advance

Derek



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[NSP] rapper dancing

2012-03-20 Thread DEREK LOFTHOUSE

This is a little off topic, but i am looking for a little advice.
A few of us (conveniently 5) are starting a rapper dance side. We have swords,
instruction books, a little experience (My father and i had a side 30 odd years 
ago).
Just wondering if anyone can suggest recordings that we can practice to. We 
will work
on getting live musicians, but to start it will likely be less painful (at 
least for the musician)
if we use CD's. 
As my mother is from Amble, I am thinking of trying to persuade the guys to 
start with
the Amble dance.

thanks

Derek



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[NSP] Re: The Grand Chain

2010-07-08 Thread DEREK LOFTHOUSE
   legend has it the grand chain was picked up, in Quebec,by the Boys of
   the Lough during a north american tour. I am guessing that grande chien
   sounded to their ears like grand chain and no attempt at actual name
   translation was made.



   works for me, but i am only guessing



   derek
   - Original Message -
   From: cal...@aol.com
   Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010 9:54
   Subject: [NSP] The Grand Chain
   To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
   >I've just gotten my copy of the Northumbrian
   > Pipers' Third Tune Book,
   >2nd edition.  There's a tune whose title is
   > given as "THE GRAND CHAIN
   >(Le Grand Chien)."  Now, since this is a
   > second edition, I'm assuming
   >that it wasn't just a typo, so I'm curious about
   > this title.  Was it
   >just translated by somebody who was more interested
   > in daydreaming
   >about pipe tunes than paying attention during
   > French class, or does the
   >mistranslation actually have some interesting
   > history behind it?  I'm
   >not meaning to be arch, but I do find this interesting.
   >
   >Alec MacLean
   >
   >
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[NSP] alnwick pipers society website

2010-06-06 Thread Derek Lofthouse
   Anyone else having problems going to this site?

   My antivirus software wont let me go there and google has it flagged as
   'may harm your computer'?

   Is it a real problem or are google and firefox being too sensitive?





   derek

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[NSP] Re: pipe cases

2010-02-18 Thread DEREK LOFTHOUSE
I use a Pelican 1550 case that holds my NSP, Border Pipes, Flute,
   assorted whistles and even a few tune books. It is pretty big and bulky
   but Pelican cases are literally indestructable.

I used last fall flying from Canada to England and back, had no
   hesitation giving it to the baggage handlers. I dont' think it even got
   scratched. The 1550 is a touch too big for Air Canada carry-on, and I
   was carrying a hurdy gurdy anyway.

There is a Belgian on the HurdyGurdy list, who is in the military, who
   has tried to blow up his Pelican case (empty) with grenades but it
   survived intact.

Granted the case is large, but if you travel and or fly it could save
   your instruments.



   Derek

   - Original Message -
   From: Philip Gruar 
   Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:19 am
   Subject: [NSP] Re: pipe cases
   To: Dartmouth NPS 
   > Thanks to all who have responded to my question, on- and off-
   > list. The
   > suggestions, and the pipes-carrying solutions actually used by
   > people here
   > range from Kingham, whose website is worth a look just for the
   > gallery of
   > exotic instruments, but whose prices may be a little steep even
   > for the most
   > up-market set of pipes (-L-200 just for a basic bow case) - to a
   > plastic bag
   > from Sainsbury's.
   > I'm exploring a few ideas, but haven't found the solution yet,
   > so any more
   > info and ideas for suppliers of lightweight, weather-proof, and
   > preferably
   > rigid cases of the right size and at the right price will still
   > be welcome.
   > Philip
   >
   >
   >
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