[NSP] Re: small coals, and the peacock following the hen
Again, thanks all for the advice. I tried all 3 tunes with both Gg and Aa drones, both set ups worked okay. I think i prefered the Gg sound though. Basically it is the border pipe set up, a tone lower. I suspect i better be able to play all 3 tunes by october though. Derek -- From: "Julia Say" Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 2:32 PM To: "Dartmouth NPS" Subject: [NSP] Re: small coals, and the peacock following the hen On 15 Aug 2012, Matt Seattle wrote: And neither does playing Cuckold or Peacock on NSP against A drones sound nasty, but it does miss a lot of the musical effect of these tunes, the contrasting minor/major strains Coincidentally (yes, really) I spent part of this afternoon playing Peacock followed the Hen with Colin R. We tried both G and A drones, both with and without the dominant d or e harmony running. We also tried playing the only f# (in the B part) as a natural, to test if it was To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: small coals, and the peacock following the hen
Thanks Matt, Anthony, John and Kevin for your thoughts on these tunes. I will try the ideas you guys have suggested and I guess go with what works best for me. I guess it a matter of what you are used to, when i play border pipes I have no problem with 'discordant' drones, ex. playing in Bm with A drones, but i am used to just playing mainly G and D tunes (with the occassional venture into A and E)on the NSP with the appropriate drones. I'll and do more of it and maybe it will start sounding better to me. A question I forgot to ask though, are these 2 tunes played much? thanks again Derek - Original Message - From: "Matt Seattle" To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:27:50 AM Subject: [NSP] Re: small coals, and the peacock following the hen On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Anthony Robb <[1]anth...@robbpipes.com> wrote: Here is what Forster Charlton, Colin Ross and Roland Wright put in the introduction to the second edition to the NPS 1st Tune Book: "Small Coals and Little Money and Cuckold Come Out The Amrey are in an unusual mode for which the drones should be tuned to the notes A and E. Any drone which will not tune to either of these two notes is best shut off!" Personally, I agree - others don't. Where I disagree is in saying they are in the same mode. Small Coals is a straightforward A minor tune, although with no 6th (F#) it's neither dorian nor aeolian mode. There is a case for tuning the drones to A for Small Coals if you insist on the drones being concordant with the home key or mode of the tune. I don't personally find that an issue, and neither do other bagpipe traditions, where drones are what drones were meant to be - fixed, so that tunes in different modes sound like they are in different modes. For me, Cuckold is a mixed-mode tune with alternating A minor and C major strains, where A drones have the effect of masking the C major sections because, over A drones, these also sound like A minor. So, if I were an NSP player, I'd leave the drones in G for this tune, which I am well aware is heresy. [2]http://youtu.be/71KwJ11O0fI -- References 1. mailto:anth...@robbpipes.com 2. http://youtu.be/71KwJ11O0fI To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] small coals, and the peacock following the hen
I decided to play through the contents of the first 30 tunes book, just to see how many of them i actually knew, or could play. Fortunately i've played most of them. There are only 2 that i had never looked at, as the title suggests, Small coals and little money, and the Peacock followed the hen. Both of these appear to be what (I think) Matt calls bi-modal. switching between G and A minor, they sort of resolve to G, although the g drones (to me anyway) dont always seem to work. What drones do people use on these tunes? Also how fast should they be played. I've heard the Tickel version of small coals, but should it really be that fast? thanks in advance Derek To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] rapper dancing
This is a little off topic, but i am looking for a little advice. A few of us (conveniently 5) are starting a rapper dance side. We have swords, instruction books, a little experience (My father and i had a side 30 odd years ago). Just wondering if anyone can suggest recordings that we can practice to. We will work on getting live musicians, but to start it will likely be less painful (at least for the musician) if we use CD's. As my mother is from Amble, I am thinking of trying to persuade the guys to start with the Amble dance. thanks Derek To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: The Grand Chain
legend has it the grand chain was picked up, in Quebec,by the Boys of the Lough during a north american tour. I am guessing that grande chien sounded to their ears like grand chain and no attempt at actual name translation was made. works for me, but i am only guessing derek - Original Message - From: cal...@aol.com Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010 9:54 Subject: [NSP] The Grand Chain To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu >I've just gotten my copy of the Northumbrian > Pipers' Third Tune Book, >2nd edition. There's a tune whose title is > given as "THE GRAND CHAIN >(Le Grand Chien)." Now, since this is a > second edition, I'm assuming >that it wasn't just a typo, so I'm curious about > this title. Was it >just translated by somebody who was more interested > in daydreaming >about pipe tunes than paying attention during > French class, or does the >mistranslation actually have some interesting > history behind it? I'm >not meaning to be arch, but I do find this interesting. > >Alec MacLean > > > >-- > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > --
[NSP] alnwick pipers society website
Anyone else having problems going to this site? My antivirus software wont let me go there and google has it flagged as 'may harm your computer'? Is it a real problem or are google and firefox being too sensitive? derek -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: pipe cases
I use a Pelican 1550 case that holds my NSP, Border Pipes, Flute, assorted whistles and even a few tune books. It is pretty big and bulky but Pelican cases are literally indestructable. I used last fall flying from Canada to England and back, had no hesitation giving it to the baggage handlers. I dont' think it even got scratched. The 1550 is a touch too big for Air Canada carry-on, and I was carrying a hurdy gurdy anyway. There is a Belgian on the HurdyGurdy list, who is in the military, who has tried to blow up his Pelican case (empty) with grenades but it survived intact. Granted the case is large, but if you travel and or fly it could save your instruments. Derek - Original Message - From: Philip Gruar Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:19 am Subject: [NSP] Re: pipe cases To: Dartmouth NPS > Thanks to all who have responded to my question, on- and off- > list. The > suggestions, and the pipes-carrying solutions actually used by > people here > range from Kingham, whose website is worth a look just for the > gallery of > exotic instruments, but whose prices may be a little steep even > for the most > up-market set of pipes (-L-200 just for a basic bow case) - to a > plastic bag > from Sainsbury's. > I'm exploring a few ideas, but haven't found the solution yet, > so any more > info and ideas for suppliers of lightweight, weather-proof, and > preferably > rigid cases of the right size and at the right price will still > be welcome. > Philip > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > --