RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
Anybody that signs Keogh, even on loan, should forever be banned from managing our glorious club. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 4:26 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? So we should sack Mick on the basis that Morgan has someone great in the wings? All I ask for is a couple of names. The pool of qualified football managers is not that vast and it's all conducted in public so who should it be? There's a fella at Cardiff called Jones. He's a successful lower league manager. Maybe we should get him in. On 18 October 2010 14:26, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote: I've always had an issue with MM and his selection policy (playing people out of position and preferring hard work over ability) but I have also given credit when we have put in good performances. If you believe the current run of abject performances combined with a puzzling selection/recruitment policies is the way that you want our club to be run then you clearly have lower expectations or standards than I. Yes he presents a funny post match conference but that's just a ploy to distract people from the dire performances that he has overseen. As mere armchair supporters stranded in the Antipodeans how could we possibly comment on who an astute business man such as Morgan has connections to. We automatically assume that we have to have someone of vast experience to make us successful. By way of example only, our dear friends The Baggies appointed Roberto Di Matteo with only 1 year of managerial experience under his belt. He won promotion in his first season and has a team playing attractive attacking football in the premier league. The unfancied Blackpool appointed a manager who is almost certifiable and has no previous record of success, yet he has managed to mould a team that, so far, has been successful playing attacking football. Even if both these teams to do end up getting relegated at the end of the season, I'm sure their fans will have enjoyed the season much more than ourselves who are likely to achieve the same result (relegation) but only after suffering a season with a complete lack of creativity or attacking intent. We don't know what Morgan's master-plan is. I'm fairly sure that even if he had people in mind to come and manage the club, we would be the last to hear about it, but all I'm saying is it doesn't necessarily need to be a big name who we can look to statistics to demonstrate whether he is better or not that Thick Mick. I have faith that Morgan is a good businessman. Wolves and Premier League football is a business. Let's hope he makes the right business decisions before it is too late. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 1:59 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? All managers get sacked or quit and Mick will at some point. You'll then be able to say I've told you for the last four years he was no good. I told you when we won the Championship and stayed in the Premiership that he was no good. Many other people have been quite happy with Mick over the last few years. I must admit I'm unhappy about our position and I can see why people are turning against him. However, I stand by these two points: (a) Statistical evidence that changing managers has no impact on performance over a season. (b) The absence of a credible alternative to come to Wolves if Mick is sacked (someone who would come and someone who would be better). There's no point debating (a) but if you can suggest an answer to be I'll fill out my application and pay you my subs. On 18 October 2010 13:45, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote: Judging by the commentary on here since the West Ham game, I'd struggle to find someone who doesn't want to see MM out, excluding your good self ;-) From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 1:42 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You happen to be right at the moment but arguably haven't been right for the last four years as Wolves have progressed from expectations of a Championship relegation battle to a second season in the Premier League. Paul Crowe's defection to BTMO is sexually motivated. Who else is in the rush of applications that you cite? On 18 October 2010 13:29, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote: Roughly one month ago (13th September) it was quoted on this list that the BTMO doomsayers (both of us) were a splinter cell within NSWolves who must be getting bored by the fact that we were continuing to grind out good results. Well it seems that there has been a sudden rush of applications to join the BTMO
RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
No way back for Dave Jones then Rog? From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 7:52 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? Anybody that signs Keogh, even on loan, should forever be banned from managing our glorious club. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 4:26 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? So we should sack Mick on the basis that Morgan has someone great in the wings? All I ask for is a couple of names. The pool of qualified football managers is not that vast and it's all conducted in public so who should it be? There's a fella at Cardiff called Jones. He's a successful lower league manager. Maybe we should get him in. On 18 October 2010 14:26, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.commailto:marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote: I've always had an issue with MM and his selection policy (playing people out of position and preferring hard work over ability) but I have also given credit when we have put in good performances. If you believe the current run of abject performances combined with a puzzling selection/recruitment policies is the way that you want our club to be run then you clearly have lower expectations or standards than I. Yes he presents a funny post match conference but that's just a ploy to distract people from the dire performances that he has overseen. As mere armchair supporters stranded in the Antipodeans how could we possibly comment on who an astute business man such as Morgan has connections to. We automatically assume that we have to have someone of vast experience to make us successful. By way of example only, our dear friends The Baggies appointed Roberto Di Matteo with only 1 year of managerial experience under his belt. He won promotion in his first season and has a team playing attractive attacking football in the premier league. The unfancied Blackpool appointed a manager who is almost certifiable and has no previous record of success, yet he has managed to mould a team that, so far, has been successful playing attacking football. Even if both these teams to do end up getting relegated at the end of the season, I'm sure their fans will have enjoyed the season much more than ourselves who are likely to achieve the same result (relegation) but only after suffering a season with a complete lack of creativity or attacking intent. We don't know what Morgan's master-plan is. I'm fairly sure that even if he had people in mind to come and manage the club, we would be the last to hear about it, but all I'm saying is it doesn't necessarily need to be a big name who we can look to statistics to demonstrate whether he is better or not that Thick Mick. I have faith that Morgan is a good businessman. Wolves and Premier League football is a business. Let's hope he makes the right business decisions before it is too late. From: nswolves@googlegroups.commailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.commailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 1:59 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.commailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? All managers get sacked or quit and Mick will at some point. You'll then be able to say I've told you for the last four years he was no good. I told you when we won the Championship and stayed in the Premiership that he was no good. Many other people have been quite happy with Mick over the last few years. I must admit I'm unhappy about our position and I can see why people are turning against him. However, I stand by these two points: (a) Statistical evidence that changing managers has no impact on performance over a season. (b) The absence of a credible alternative to come to Wolves if Mick is sacked (someone who would come and someone who would be better). There's no point debating (a) but if you can suggest an answer to be I'll fill out my application and pay you my subs. On 18 October 2010 13:45, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.commailto:marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote: Judging by the commentary on here since the West Ham game, I'd struggle to find someone who doesn't want to see MM out, excluding your good self ;-) From: nswolves@googlegroups.commailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.commailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 1:42 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.commailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You happen to be right at the moment but arguably haven't been right for the last four years as Wolves have progressed from expectations of a Championship relegation
RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
That's right. Was astounded he'd signed someone under 40 though. He's not all bad, he has got Bothroyd playing regularly. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LEESE Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:11 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? No way back for Dave Jones then Rog? _ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 7:52 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? Anybody that signs Keogh, even on loan, should forever be banned from managing our glorious club. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 4:26 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? So we should sack Mick on the basis that Morgan has someone great in the wings? All I ask for is a couple of names. The pool of qualified football managers is not that vast and it's all conducted in public so who should it be? There's a fella at Cardiff called Jones. He's a successful lower league manager. Maybe we should get him in. On 18 October 2010 14:26, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote: I've always had an issue with MM and his selection policy (playing people out of position and preferring hard work over ability) but I have also given credit when we have put in good performances. If you believe the current run of abject performances combined with a puzzling selection/recruitment policies is the way that you want our club to be run then you clearly have lower expectations or standards than I. Yes he presents a funny post match conference but that's just a ploy to distract people from the dire performances that he has overseen. As mere armchair supporters stranded in the Antipodeans how could we possibly comment on who an astute business man such as Morgan has connections to. We automatically assume that we have to have someone of vast experience to make us successful. By way of example only, our dear friends The Baggies appointed Roberto Di Matteo with only 1 year of managerial experience under his belt. He won promotion in his first season and has a team playing attractive attacking football in the premier league. The unfancied Blackpool appointed a manager who is almost certifiable and has no previous record of success, yet he has managed to mould a team that, so far, has been successful playing attacking football. Even if both these teams to do end up getting relegated at the end of the season, I'm sure their fans will have enjoyed the season much more than ourselves who are likely to achieve the same result (relegation) but only after suffering a season with a complete lack of creativity or attacking intent. We don't know what Morgan's master-plan is. I'm fairly sure that even if he had people in mind to come and manage the club, we would be the last to hear about it, but all I'm saying is it doesn't necessarily need to be a big name who we can look to statistics to demonstrate whether he is better or not that Thick Mick. I have faith that Morgan is a good businessman. Wolves and Premier League football is a business. Let's hope he makes the right business decisions before it is too late. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 1:59 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? All managers get sacked or quit and Mick will at some point. You'll then be able to say I've told you for the last four years he was no good. I told you when we won the Championship and stayed in the Premiership that he was no good. Many other people have been quite happy with Mick over the last few years. I must admit I'm unhappy about our position and I can see why people are turning against him. However, I stand by these two points: (a) Statistical evidence that changing managers has no impact on performance over a season. (b) The absence of a credible alternative to come to Wolves if Mick is sacked (someone who would come and someone who would be better). There's no point debating (a) but if you can suggest an answer to be I'll fill out my application and pay you my subs. On 18 October 2010 13:45, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote: Judging by the commentary on here since the West Ham game, I'd struggle to find someone who doesn't want to see MM out, excluding your good self ;-) From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 1:42 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You happen to be right at the moment but arguably haven't been right for the last four years as Wolves have progressed from expectations of a
Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
That's the thing. He's one of the best managers in the Championship but we sacked him. Having a lesser manager is surely going to be no good. We've been through this so many times. At least if someone calls to sack Mick, can they please suggest a replacement. On 19 October 2010 08:34, LEESE Matthew matthew_le...@rta.nsw.gov.auwrote: Maybe we should give him another go? -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rog Reet *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:32 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? That’s right. Was astounded he’d signed someone under 40 though. He’s not all bad, he has got Bothroyd playing regularly. *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *LEESE Matthew *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:11 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? No way back for Dave Jones then Rog? -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rog Reet *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 7:52 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? Anybody that signs Keogh, even on loan, should forever be banned from managing our glorious club. *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Monday, 18 October 2010 4:26 PM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? So we should sack Mick on the basis that Morgan has someone great in the wings? All I ask for is a couple of names. The pool of qualified football managers is not that vast and it's all conducted in public so who should it be? There's a fella at Cardiff called Jones. He's a successful lower league manager. Maybe we should get him in. On 18 October 2010 14:26, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote: I’ve always had an issue with MM and his selection policy (playing people out of position and preferring hard work over ability) but I have also given credit when we have put in good performances. If you believe the current run of abject performances combined with a puzzling selection/recruitment policies is the way that you want our club to be run then you clearly have lower expectations or standards than I. Yes he presents a funny post match conference but that’s just a ploy to distract people from the dire performances that he has overseen. As mere armchair supporters stranded in the Antipodeans how could we possibly comment on who an astute business man such as Morgan has connections to. We automatically assume that we have to have someone of vast experience to make us successful. By way of example only, our dear friends The Baggies appointed Roberto Di Matteo with only 1 year of managerial experience under his belt. He won promotion in his first season and has a team playing attractive attacking football in the premier league. The unfancied Blackpool appointed a manager who is almost certifiable and has no previous record of success, yet he has managed to mould a team that, so far, has been successful playing attacking football. Even if both these teams to do end up getting relegated at the end of the season, I’m sure their fans will have enjoyed the season much more than ourselves who are likely to achieve the same result (relegation) but only after suffering a season with a complete lack of creativity or attacking intent. We don’t know what Morgan’s master-plan is. I’m fairly sure that even if he had people in mind to come and manage the club, we would be the last to hear about it, but all I’m saying is it doesn’t necessarily need to be a big name who we can look to statistics to demonstrate whether he is “better” or not that Thick Mick. I have faith that Morgan is a good businessman. Wolves and Premier League football is a business. Let’s hope he makes the right business decisions before it is too late. *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Monday, 18 October 2010 1:59 PM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? All managers get sacked or quit and Mick will at some point. You'll then be able to say I've told you for the last four years he was no good. I told you when we won the Championship and stayed in the Premiership that he was no good. Many other people have been quite happy with Mick over the last few years. I must admit I'm unhappy about our position and I can see why people are turning against him. However, I stand by these two points: (a) Statistical evidence that changing managers has no impact on performance over a season. (b) The absence of a credible alternative to come to Wolves if Mick is sacked (someone who would
RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
Big Sam, Coppell, Curbishley, Coyle, O'Neill, anybody who runs a hot dog stand, Paul Bremer From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:42 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? That's the thing. He's one of the best managers in the Championship but we sacked him. Having a lesser manager is surely going to be no good. We've been through this so many times. At least if someone calls to sack Mick, can they please suggest a replacement. On 19 October 2010 08:34, LEESE Matthew matthew_le...@rta.nsw.gov.au wrote: Maybe we should give him another go? _ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:32 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? That's right. Was astounded he'd signed someone under 40 though. He's not all bad, he has got Bothroyd playing regularly. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LEESE Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:11 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? No way back for Dave Jones then Rog? _ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 7:52 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? Anybody that signs Keogh, even on loan, should forever be banned from managing our glorious club. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 4:26 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? So we should sack Mick on the basis that Morgan has someone great in the wings? All I ask for is a couple of names. The pool of qualified football managers is not that vast and it's all conducted in public so who should it be? There's a fella at Cardiff called Jones. He's a successful lower league manager. Maybe we should get him in. On 18 October 2010 14:26, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote: I've always had an issue with MM and his selection policy (playing people out of position and preferring hard work over ability) but I have also given credit when we have put in good performances. If you believe the current run of abject performances combined with a puzzling selection/recruitment policies is the way that you want our club to be run then you clearly have lower expectations or standards than I. Yes he presents a funny post match conference but that's just a ploy to distract people from the dire performances that he has overseen. As mere armchair supporters stranded in the Antipodeans how could we possibly comment on who an astute business man such as Morgan has connections to. We automatically assume that we have to have someone of vast experience to make us successful. By way of example only, our dear friends The Baggies appointed Roberto Di Matteo with only 1 year of managerial experience under his belt. He won promotion in his first season and has a team playing attractive attacking football in the premier league. The unfancied Blackpool appointed a manager who is almost certifiable and has no previous record of success, yet he has managed to mould a team that, so far, has been successful playing attacking football. Even if both these teams to do end up getting relegated at the end of the season, I'm sure their fans will have enjoyed the season much more than ourselves who are likely to achieve the same result (relegation) but only after suffering a season with a complete lack of creativity or attacking intent. We don't know what Morgan's master-plan is. I'm fairly sure that even if he had people in mind to come and manage the club, we would be the last to hear about it, but all I'm saying is it doesn't necessarily need to be a big name who we can look to statistics to demonstrate whether he is better or not that Thick Mick. I have faith that Morgan is a good businessman. Wolves and Premier League football is a business. Let's hope he makes the right business decisions before it is too late. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 1:59 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? All managers get sacked or quit and Mick will at some point. You'll then be able to say I've told you for the last four years he was no good. I told you when we won the Championship and stayed in the Premiership that he was no good. Many other people have been quite happy with Mick over the last few years. I must admit I'm unhappy about our position and I can see why people are turning against him. However, I stand by these two points: (a) Statistical evidence that changing managers has no impact on performance over a
Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
Big Sam. I thought people wanted attractive football? Why would he come? Oh yes he's a Wolves fan so he's love to manage a small club on the brink of relegation Coppell. Couldn't take the pressure of a relegation battle. Curbishley. Does he want a job as he hasn't worked for two years? Coyle. Why would he come? O’Neill. Why would he come? You forgot Mourinho, Alex Ferguson and Ancelotti. We've got no track record of attracting these sorts of managers. You're living in the 1950s On 19 October 2010 09:10, Rog Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote: Big Sam, Coppell, Curbishley, Coyle, O’Neill, anybody who runs a hot dog stand, Paul Bremer *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:42 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? That's the thing. He's one of the best managers in the Championship but we sacked him. Having a lesser manager is surely going to be no good. We've been through this so many times. At least if someone calls to sack Mick, can they please suggest a replacement. On 19 October 2010 08:34, LEESE Matthew matthew_le...@rta.nsw.gov.au wrote: Maybe we should give him another go? -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rog Reet *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:32 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? That’s right. Was astounded he’d signed someone under 40 though. He’s not all bad, he has got Bothroyd playing regularly. *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *LEESE Matthew *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:11 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? No way back for Dave Jones then Rog? -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rog Reet *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 7:52 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? Anybody that signs Keogh, even on loan, should forever be banned from managing our glorious club. *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Monday, 18 October 2010 4:26 PM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? So we should sack Mick on the basis that Morgan has someone great in the wings? All I ask for is a couple of names. The pool of qualified football managers is not that vast and it's all conducted in public so who should it be? There's a fella at Cardiff called Jones. He's a successful lower league manager. Maybe we should get him in. On 18 October 2010 14:26, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote: I’ve always had an issue with MM and his selection policy (playing people out of position and preferring hard work over ability) but I have also given credit when we have put in good performances. If you believe the current run of abject performances combined with a puzzling selection/recruitment policies is the way that you want our club to be run then you clearly have lower expectations or standards than I. Yes he presents a funny post match conference but that’s just a ploy to distract people from the dire performances that he has overseen. As mere armchair supporters stranded in the Antipodeans how could we possibly comment on who an astute business man such as Morgan has connections to. We automatically assume that we have to have someone of vast experience to make us successful. By way of example only, our dear friends The Baggies appointed Roberto Di Matteo with only 1 year of managerial experience under his belt. He won promotion in his first season and has a team playing attractive attacking football in the premier league. The unfancied Blackpool appointed a manager who is almost certifiable and has no previous record of success, yet he has managed to mould a team that, so far, has been successful playing attacking football. Even if both these teams to do end up getting relegated at the end of the season, I’m sure their fans will have enjoyed the season much more than ourselves who are likely to achieve the same result (relegation) but only after suffering a season with a complete lack of creativity or attacking intent. We don’t know what Morgan’s master-plan is. I’m fairly sure that even if he had people in mind to come and manage the club, we would be the last to hear about it, but all I’m saying is it doesn’t necessarily need to be a big name who we can look to statistics to demonstrate whether he is “better” or not that Thick Mick. I have faith that Morgan is a good businessman. Wolves and Premier League football is a business. Let’s hope he makes the right business decisions
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Once again you're assuming it has to be someone with pedigree and/or well know. Who in their right mind would have had Roberto Di Matteo or Ian Holloway on their list of suitable premiership managers? Certainly no one in this list has ever mentioned their names but at the moment they are both doing a much better job than MM. Our next manager could well be someone from overseas or a lower division that we've never heard of, but again that's not to say they won't do a better job than Thick Mick (wouldn't be hard). From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 9:41 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? Big Sam. I thought people wanted attractive football? Why would he come? Oh yes he's a Wolves fan so he's love to manage a small club on the brink of relegation Coppell. Couldn't take the pressure of a relegation battle. Curbishley. Does he want a job as he hasn't worked for two years? Coyle. Why would he come? O'Neill. Why would he come? You forgot Mourinho, Alex Ferguson and Ancelotti. We've got no track record of attracting these sorts of managers. You're living in the 1950s On 19 October 2010 09:10, Rog Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote: Big Sam, Coppell, Curbishley, Coyle, O'Neill, anybody who runs a hot dog stand, Paul Bremer From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:42 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? That's the thing. He's one of the best managers in the Championship but we sacked him. Having a lesser manager is surely going to be no good. We've been through this so many times. At least if someone calls to sack Mick, can they please suggest a replacement. On 19 October 2010 08:34, LEESE Matthew matthew_le...@rta.nsw.gov.au wrote: Maybe we should give him another go? From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:32 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? That's right. Was astounded he'd signed someone under 40 though. He's not all bad, he has got Bothroyd playing regularly. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LEESE Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:11 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? No way back for Dave Jones then Rog? From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 7:52 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? Anybody that signs Keogh, even on loan, should forever be banned from managing our glorious club. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 4:26 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? So we should sack Mick on the basis that Morgan has someone great in the wings? All I ask for is a couple of names. The pool of qualified football managers is not that vast and it's all conducted in public so who should it be? There's a fella at Cardiff called Jones. He's a successful lower league manager. Maybe we should get him in. On 18 October 2010 14:26, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote: I've always had an issue with MM and his selection policy (playing people out of position and preferring hard work over ability) but I have also given credit when we have put in good performances. If you believe the current run of abject performances combined with a puzzling selection/recruitment policies is the way that you want our club to be run then you clearly have lower expectations or standards than I. Yes he presents a funny post match conference but that's just a ploy to distract people from the dire performances that he has overseen. As mere armchair supporters stranded in the Antipodeans how could we possibly comment on who an astute business man such as Morgan has connections to. We automatically assume that we have to have someone of vast experience to make us successful. By way of example only, our dear friends The Baggies appointed Roberto Di Matteo with only 1 year of managerial experience under his belt. He won promotion in his first season and has a team playing attractive attacking football in the premier league. The unfancied Blackpool appointed a manager who is almost certifiable and has no previous record of success, yet he has managed to mould a team that, so far, has been successful playing attacking football. Even if both these teams to do end up getting relegated at the end of the season, I'm sure their fans will have enjoyed the season
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I like the idea of Big Sam, but I can't see him coming. He's at a bigger club. The only thing in it for him is to manage the club he supported as a child but perhaps he doesn't want that anyway. Holloway and Di Matteo have both got their clubs promoted to the Premier League on small budgets. We need to find someone that could do that but is not them. Burnley started like this last season and still got relegated so let's not start worshipping these guys yet. With Coyle and O'Neill, I can't understand what we have to offer them. My non-Wolves mates are saying O'Neill for the Liverpool job so why would he come to us? Bolton are better than Wolves so why would Coyle come? It's not like we've got loads of money or great players. If you take your Wolves hats off and put yourself in their position it would be a totally illogical decision. I presume Curbishley has had plenty of offers in the last couple of years so why has he turned them down? I can imagine Wolves trying to get someone that has managed a national side as we've done it twice before with Taylor and Hoddle. We only got those because they were in disgrace. You still groan about Hoddle now and he hasn't been here for four years so he must have made an impression. I hope we get someone that you both endorse next time. I wish we had got Paul Ince last time so I could have moaned about him for the season that he lasted. Or Richard Money, now at the lofty heights of Luton in the conference. So sack Mick, bring in one of the above and I can have a good whinge. On 19 October 2010 10:04, Rog Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote: Big Sam. Not a serial failure. Blackburn have improved markedly since the start of last season in stark contrast to us. Coppell. Recognises when things aren’t going well and does the honourable thing. Curbishley. How long must you be out of work for to be ruled out of contention? Coyle, Why wouldn’t he. He has changed jobs before you know. O’Neill. Why wouldn’t he come. Has he been out of work for too long? No track record of attracting these “sorts of managers”? Better not try for anybody above our station then. Can you imagine tiny little Wolves having the audacity to try for somebody who’s managed say a national side? *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 9:41 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? Big Sam. I thought people wanted attractive football? Why would he come? Oh yes he's a Wolves fan so he's love to manage a small club on the brink of relegation Coppell. Couldn't take the pressure of a relegation battle. Curbishley. Does he want a job as he hasn't worked for two years? Coyle. Why would he come? O’Neill. Why would he come? You forgot Mourinho, Alex Ferguson and Ancelotti. We've got no track record of attracting these sorts of managers. You're living in the 1950s On 19 October 2010 09:10, Rog Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote: Big Sam, Coppell, Curbishley, Coyle, O’Neill, anybody who runs a hot dog stand, Paul Bremer *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:42 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? That's the thing. He's one of the best managers in the Championship but we sacked him. Having a lesser manager is surely going to be no good. We've been through this so many times. At least if someone calls to sack Mick, can they please suggest a replacement. On 19 October 2010 08:34, LEESE Matthew matthew_le...@rta.nsw.gov.au wrote: Maybe we should give him another go? -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rog Reet *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:32 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? That’s right. Was astounded he’d signed someone under 40 though. He’s not all bad, he has got Bothroyd playing regularly. *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *LEESE Matthew *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:11 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? No way back for Dave Jones then Rog? -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rog Reet *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 7:52 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? Anybody that signs Keogh, even on loan, should forever be banned from managing our glorious club. *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Monday, 18 October 2010 4:26 PM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re:
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Blackburn bigger than the Wolves! What are you smoking Steve? Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra -Original Message- From: Steven Millward millward@gmail.com Sender: nswolves@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:58:52 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? I like the idea of Big Sam, but I can't see him coming. He's at a bigger club. The only thing in it for him is to manage the club he supported as a child but perhaps he doesn't want that anyway. Holloway and Di Matteo have both got their clubs promoted to the Premier League on small budgets. We need to find someone that could do that but is not them. Burnley started like this last season and still got relegated so let's not start worshipping these guys yet. With Coyle and O'Neill, I can't understand what we have to offer them. My non-Wolves mates are saying O'Neill for the Liverpool job so why would he come to us? Bolton are better than Wolves so why would Coyle come? It's not like we've got loads of money or great players. If you take your Wolves hats off and put yourself in their position it would be a totally illogical decision. I presume Curbishley has had plenty of offers in the last couple of years so why has he turned them down? I can imagine Wolves trying to get someone that has managed a national side as we've done it twice before with Taylor and Hoddle. We only got those because they were in disgrace. You still groan about Hoddle now and he hasn't been here for four years so he must have made an impression. I hope we get someone that you both endorse next time. I wish we had got Paul Ince last time so I could have moaned about him for the season that he lasted. Or Richard Money, now at the lofty heights of Luton in the conference. So sack Mick, bring in one of the above and I can have a good whinge. On 19 October 2010 10:04, Rog Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote: Big Sam. Not a serial failure. Blackburn have improved markedly since the start of last season in stark contrast to us. Coppell. Recognises when things aren’t going well and does the honourable thing. Curbishley. How long must you be out of work for to be ruled out of contention? Coyle, Why wouldn’t he. He has changed jobs before you know. O’Neill. Why wouldn’t he come. Has he been out of work for too long? No track record of attracting these “sorts of managers”? Better not try for anybody above our station then. Can you imagine tiny little Wolves having the audacity to try for somebody who’s managed say a national side? *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 9:41 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? Big Sam. I thought people wanted attractive football? Why would he come? Oh yes he's a Wolves fan so he's love to manage a small club on the brink of relegation Coppell. Couldn't take the pressure of a relegation battle. Curbishley. Does he want a job as he hasn't worked for two years? Coyle. Why would he come? O’Neill. Why would he come? You forgot Mourinho, Alex Ferguson and Ancelotti. We've got no track record of attracting these sorts of managers. You're living in the 1950s On 19 October 2010 09:10, Rog Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote: Big Sam, Coppell, Curbishley, Coyle, O’Neill, anybody who runs a hot dog stand, Paul Bremer *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:42 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? That's the thing. He's one of the best managers in the Championship but we sacked him. Having a lesser manager is surely going to be no good. We've been through this so many times. At least if someone calls to sack Mick, can they please suggest a replacement. On 19 October 2010 08:34, LEESE Matthew matthew_le...@rta.nsw.gov.au wrote: Maybe we should give him another go? -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rog Reet *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:32 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? That’s right. Was astounded he’d signed someone under 40 though. He’s not all bad, he has got Bothroyd playing regularly. *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *LEESE Matthew *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:11 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell? No way back for Dave Jones then Rog? -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rog Reet *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 7:52 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com