RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

2010-10-18 Thread Rog Reet
Anybody that signs Keogh, even on loan, should forever be banned from
managing our glorious club.
 
 
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 4:26 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
 
So we should sack Mick on the basis that Morgan has someone great in the
wings?  All I ask for is a couple of names.  The pool of qualified football
managers is not that vast and it's all conducted in public so who should it
be?
 
There's a fella at Cardiff called Jones.  He's a successful lower league
manager.  Maybe we should get him in.
 


 
On 18 October 2010 14:26, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com
wrote:
I've always had an issue with MM and his selection policy (playing people
out of position and preferring hard work over ability) but I have also given
credit when we have put in good performances.  If you believe the current
run of abject performances combined with a puzzling selection/recruitment
policies is the way that you want our club to be run then you clearly have
lower expectations or standards than I.  Yes he presents a funny post match
conference but that's just a ploy to distract people from the dire
performances that he has overseen.
 
As mere armchair supporters stranded in the Antipodeans how could we
possibly comment on who an astute business man such as Morgan has
connections to.  We automatically assume that we have to have someone of
vast experience to make us successful.  By way of example only, our dear
friends The Baggies appointed Roberto Di Matteo with only 1 year of
managerial experience under his belt.  He won promotion in his first season
and has a team playing attractive attacking football in the premier league.
The unfancied Blackpool appointed a manager who is almost certifiable and
has no previous record of success, yet he has managed to mould a team that,
so far, has been successful playing attacking football.  Even if both these
teams to do end up getting relegated at the end of the season, I'm sure
their fans will have enjoyed the season much more than ourselves who are
likely to achieve the same result (relegation) but only after suffering a
season with a complete lack of creativity or attacking intent.
 
We don't know what Morgan's master-plan is.  I'm fairly sure that even if he
had people in mind to come and manage the club, we would be the last to hear
about it, but all I'm saying is it doesn't necessarily need to be a big name
who we can look to statistics to demonstrate whether he is better or not
that Thick Mick.
 
I have faith that Morgan is a good businessman.  Wolves and Premier League
football is a business.  Let's hope he makes the right business decisions
before it is too late.
 
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 1:59 PM 

To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
 
All managers get sacked or quit and Mick will at some point.  You'll then be
able to say I've told you for the last four years he was no good.  I told
you when we won the Championship and stayed in the Premiership that he was
no good.
 
Many other people have been quite happy with Mick over the last few years.
I must admit I'm unhappy about our position and I can see why people are
turning against him.  However, I stand by these two points:
 
(a)  Statistical evidence that changing managers has no impact on
performance over a season.
(b)  The absence of a credible alternative to come to Wolves if Mick is
sacked (someone who would come and someone who would be better).
 
There's no point debating (a) but if you can suggest an answer to be I'll
fill out my application and pay you my subs.
 


 
On 18 October 2010 13:45, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com
wrote:
Judging by the commentary on here since the West Ham game, I'd struggle to
find someone who doesn't want to see MM out, excluding your good self ;-)
 
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 1:42 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
 
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.  You happen to be right at the
moment but arguably haven't been right for the last four years as Wolves
have progressed from expectations of a Championship relegation battle to a
second season in the Premier League.
 
Paul Crowe's defection to BTMO is sexually motivated.  Who else is in the
rush of applications that you cite?
 
 

 
On 18 October 2010 13:29, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com
wrote:
Roughly one month ago (13th September) it was quoted on this list that the
BTMO doomsayers (both of us) were a splinter cell within NSWolves who must
be getting bored by the fact that we were continuing to grind out good
results.  Well it seems that there has been a sudden rush of applications to
join the BTMO 

RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

2010-10-18 Thread LEESE Matthew
No way back for Dave Jones then Rog?


From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rog  Reet
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 7:52 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

Anybody that signs Keogh, even on loan, should forever be banned from managing 
our glorious club.



From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 4:26 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

So we should sack Mick on the basis that Morgan has someone great in the wings? 
 All I ask for is a couple of names.  The pool of qualified football managers 
is not that vast and it's all conducted in public so who should it be?

There's a fella at Cardiff called Jones.  He's a successful lower league 
manager.  Maybe we should get him in.




On 18 October 2010 14:26, Marcus Chantry 
marcus.chan...@macquarie.commailto:marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote:
I've always had an issue with MM and his selection policy (playing people out 
of position and preferring hard work over ability) but I have also given credit 
when we have put in good performances.  If you believe the current run of 
abject performances combined with a puzzling selection/recruitment policies is 
the way that you want our club to be run then you clearly have lower 
expectations or standards than I.  Yes he presents a funny post match 
conference but that's just a ploy to distract people from the dire performances 
that he has overseen.

As mere armchair supporters stranded in the Antipodeans how could we possibly 
comment on who an astute business man such as Morgan has connections to.  We 
automatically assume that we have to have someone of vast experience to make us 
successful.  By way of example only, our dear friends The Baggies appointed 
Roberto Di Matteo with only 1 year of managerial experience under his belt.  He 
won promotion in his first season and has a team playing attractive attacking 
football in the premier league.  The unfancied Blackpool appointed a manager 
who is almost certifiable and has no previous record of success, yet he has 
managed to mould a team that, so far, has been successful playing attacking 
football.  Even if both these teams to do end up getting relegated at the end 
of the season, I'm sure their fans will have enjoyed the season much more than 
ourselves who are likely to achieve the same result (relegation) but only after 
suffering a season with a complete lack of creativity or attacking intent.

We don't know what Morgan's master-plan is.  I'm fairly sure that even if he 
had people in mind to come and manage the club, we would be the last to hear 
about it, but all I'm saying is it doesn't necessarily need to be a big name 
who we can look to statistics to demonstrate whether he is better or not that 
Thick Mick.

I have faith that Morgan is a good businessman.  Wolves and Premier League 
football is a business.  Let's hope he makes the right business decisions 
before it is too late.


From: nswolves@googlegroups.commailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.commailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 1:59 PM

To: nswolves@googlegroups.commailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

All managers get sacked or quit and Mick will at some point.  You'll then be 
able to say I've told you for the last four years he was no good.  I told you 
when we won the Championship and stayed in the Premiership that he was no good.

Many other people have been quite happy with Mick over the last few years.  I 
must admit I'm unhappy about our position and I can see why people are turning 
against him.  However, I stand by these two points:

(a)  Statistical evidence that changing managers has no impact on performance 
over a season.
(b)  The absence of a credible alternative to come to Wolves if Mick is sacked 
(someone who would come and someone who would be better).

There's no point debating (a) but if you can suggest an answer to be I'll fill 
out my application and pay you my subs.




On 18 October 2010 13:45, Marcus Chantry 
marcus.chan...@macquarie.commailto:marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote:
Judging by the commentary on here since the West Ham game, I'd struggle to find 
someone who doesn't want to see MM out, excluding your good self ;-)


From: nswolves@googlegroups.commailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.commailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 1:42 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.commailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.  You happen to be right at the 
moment but arguably haven't been right for the last four years as Wolves have 
progressed from expectations of a Championship relegation 

RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

2010-10-18 Thread Rog Reet
That's right.
Was astounded he'd signed someone under 40 though.
 
He's not all bad, he has got Bothroyd playing regularly.
 
 
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of LEESE Matthew
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:11 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
 
No way back for Dave Jones then Rog?
 
  _  

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rog  Reet
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 7:52 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
Anybody that signs Keogh, even on loan, should forever be banned from
managing our glorious club.
 
 
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 4:26 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
 
So we should sack Mick on the basis that Morgan has someone great in the
wings?  All I ask for is a couple of names.  The pool of qualified football
managers is not that vast and it's all conducted in public so who should it
be?
 
There's a fella at Cardiff called Jones.  He's a successful lower league
manager.  Maybe we should get him in.
 


 
On 18 October 2010 14:26, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com
wrote:
I've always had an issue with MM and his selection policy (playing people
out of position and preferring hard work over ability) but I have also given
credit when we have put in good performances.  If you believe the current
run of abject performances combined with a puzzling selection/recruitment
policies is the way that you want our club to be run then you clearly have
lower expectations or standards than I.  Yes he presents a funny post match
conference but that's just a ploy to distract people from the dire
performances that he has overseen.
 
As mere armchair supporters stranded in the Antipodeans how could we
possibly comment on who an astute business man such as Morgan has
connections to.  We automatically assume that we have to have someone of
vast experience to make us successful.  By way of example only, our dear
friends The Baggies appointed Roberto Di Matteo with only 1 year of
managerial experience under his belt.  He won promotion in his first season
and has a team playing attractive attacking football in the premier league.
The unfancied Blackpool appointed a manager who is almost certifiable and
has no previous record of success, yet he has managed to mould a team that,
so far, has been successful playing attacking football.  Even if both these
teams to do end up getting relegated at the end of the season, I'm sure
their fans will have enjoyed the season much more than ourselves who are
likely to achieve the same result (relegation) but only after suffering a
season with a complete lack of creativity or attacking intent.
 
We don't know what Morgan's master-plan is.  I'm fairly sure that even if he
had people in mind to come and manage the club, we would be the last to hear
about it, but all I'm saying is it doesn't necessarily need to be a big name
who we can look to statistics to demonstrate whether he is better or not
that Thick Mick.
 
I have faith that Morgan is a good businessman.  Wolves and Premier League
football is a business.  Let's hope he makes the right business decisions
before it is too late.
 
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 1:59 PM 

To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
 
All managers get sacked or quit and Mick will at some point.  You'll then be
able to say I've told you for the last four years he was no good.  I told
you when we won the Championship and stayed in the Premiership that he was
no good.
 
Many other people have been quite happy with Mick over the last few years.
I must admit I'm unhappy about our position and I can see why people are
turning against him.  However, I stand by these two points:
 
(a)  Statistical evidence that changing managers has no impact on
performance over a season.
(b)  The absence of a credible alternative to come to Wolves if Mick is
sacked (someone who would come and someone who would be better).
 
There's no point debating (a) but if you can suggest an answer to be I'll
fill out my application and pay you my subs.
 


 
On 18 October 2010 13:45, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com
wrote:
Judging by the commentary on here since the West Ham game, I'd struggle to
find someone who doesn't want to see MM out, excluding your good self ;-)
 
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 1:42 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
 
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.  You happen to be right at the
moment but arguably haven't been right for the last four years as Wolves
have progressed from expectations of a 

Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

2010-10-18 Thread Steven Millward
That's the thing.  He's one of the best managers in the Championship but we
sacked him.  Having a lesser manager is surely going to be no good.

We've been through this so many times.  At least if someone calls to sack
Mick, can they please suggest a replacement.

On 19 October 2010 08:34, LEESE Matthew matthew_le...@rta.nsw.gov.auwrote:

  Maybe we should give him another go?

  --
  *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Rog  Reet
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:32 AM

 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

That’s right.

 Was astounded he’d signed someone under 40 though.



 He’s not all bad, he has got Bothroyd playing regularly.







 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *LEESE Matthew
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:11 AM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?



 No way back for Dave Jones then Rog?


  --

 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Rog  Reet
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 7:52 AM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

 Anybody that signs Keogh, even on loan, should forever be banned from
 managing our glorious club.







 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Monday, 18 October 2010 4:26 PM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?



 So we should sack Mick on the basis that Morgan has someone great in the
 wings?  All I ask for is a couple of names.  The pool of qualified football
 managers is not that vast and it's all conducted in public so who should it
 be?



 There's a fella at Cardiff called Jones.  He's a successful lower league
 manager.  Maybe we should get him in.







 On 18 October 2010 14:26, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com
 wrote:

 I’ve always had an issue with MM and his selection policy (playing people
 out of position and preferring hard work over ability) but I have also given
 credit when we have put in good performances.  If you believe the current
 run of abject performances combined with a puzzling selection/recruitment
 policies is the way that you want our club to be run then you clearly have
 lower expectations or standards than I.  Yes he presents a funny post match
 conference but that’s just a ploy to distract people from the dire
 performances that he has overseen.



 As mere armchair supporters stranded in the Antipodeans how could we
 possibly comment on who an astute business man such as Morgan has
 connections to.  We automatically assume that we have to have someone of
 vast experience to make us successful.  By way of example only, our dear
 friends The Baggies appointed Roberto Di Matteo with only 1 year of
 managerial experience under his belt.  He won promotion in his first season
 and has a team playing attractive attacking football in the premier league.
 The unfancied Blackpool appointed a manager who is almost certifiable and
 has no previous record of success, yet he has managed to mould a team that,
 so far, has been successful playing attacking football.  Even if both these
 teams to do end up getting relegated at the end of the season, I’m sure
 their fans will have enjoyed the season much more than ourselves who are
 likely to achieve the same result (relegation) but only after suffering a
 season with a complete lack of creativity or attacking intent.



 We don’t know what Morgan’s master-plan is.  I’m fairly sure that even if
 he had people in mind to come and manage the club, we would be the last to
 hear about it, but all I’m saying is it doesn’t necessarily need to be a big
 name who we can look to statistics to demonstrate whether he is “better” or
 not that Thick Mick.



 I have faith that Morgan is a good businessman.  Wolves and Premier League
 football is a business.  Let’s hope he makes the right business decisions
 before it is too late.





 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Monday, 18 October 2010 1:59 PM


 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?



 All managers get sacked or quit and Mick will at some point.  You'll then
 be able to say I've told you for the last four years he was no good.  I
 told you when we won the Championship and stayed in the Premiership that he
 was no good.



 Many other people have been quite happy with Mick over the last few years.
 I must admit I'm unhappy about our position and I can see why people are
 turning against him.  However, I stand by these two points:



 (a)  Statistical evidence that changing managers has no impact on
 performance over a season.

 (b)  The absence of a credible alternative to come to Wolves if Mick is
 sacked (someone who would 

RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

2010-10-18 Thread Rog Reet
Big Sam, Coppell, Curbishley, Coyle, O'Neill, anybody who runs a hot dog
stand, Paul Bremer
 
 
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:42 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
 
That's the thing.  He's one of the best managers in the Championship but we
sacked him.  Having a lesser manager is surely going to be no good.
 
We've been through this so many times.  At least if someone calls to sack
Mick, can they please suggest a replacement.
On 19 October 2010 08:34, LEESE Matthew matthew_le...@rta.nsw.gov.au
wrote:
Maybe we should give him another go?
 
  _  

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rog  Reet
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:32 AM 

To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
 
That's right.
Was astounded he'd signed someone under 40 though.
 
He's not all bad, he has got Bothroyd playing regularly.
 
 
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of LEESE Matthew
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:11 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
 
No way back for Dave Jones then Rog?
 
  _  

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rog  Reet
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 7:52 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
Anybody that signs Keogh, even on loan, should forever be banned from
managing our glorious club.
 
 
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 4:26 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
 
So we should sack Mick on the basis that Morgan has someone great in the
wings?  All I ask for is a couple of names.  The pool of qualified football
managers is not that vast and it's all conducted in public so who should it
be?
 
There's a fella at Cardiff called Jones.  He's a successful lower league
manager.  Maybe we should get him in.
 


 
On 18 October 2010 14:26, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com
wrote:
I've always had an issue with MM and his selection policy (playing people
out of position and preferring hard work over ability) but I have also given
credit when we have put in good performances.  If you believe the current
run of abject performances combined with a puzzling selection/recruitment
policies is the way that you want our club to be run then you clearly have
lower expectations or standards than I.  Yes he presents a funny post match
conference but that's just a ploy to distract people from the dire
performances that he has overseen.
 
As mere armchair supporters stranded in the Antipodeans how could we
possibly comment on who an astute business man such as Morgan has
connections to.  We automatically assume that we have to have someone of
vast experience to make us successful.  By way of example only, our dear
friends The Baggies appointed Roberto Di Matteo with only 1 year of
managerial experience under his belt.  He won promotion in his first season
and has a team playing attractive attacking football in the premier league.
The unfancied Blackpool appointed a manager who is almost certifiable and
has no previous record of success, yet he has managed to mould a team that,
so far, has been successful playing attacking football.  Even if both these
teams to do end up getting relegated at the end of the season, I'm sure
their fans will have enjoyed the season much more than ourselves who are
likely to achieve the same result (relegation) but only after suffering a
season with a complete lack of creativity or attacking intent.
 
We don't know what Morgan's master-plan is.  I'm fairly sure that even if he
had people in mind to come and manage the club, we would be the last to hear
about it, but all I'm saying is it doesn't necessarily need to be a big name
who we can look to statistics to demonstrate whether he is better or not
that Thick Mick.
 
I have faith that Morgan is a good businessman.  Wolves and Premier League
football is a business.  Let's hope he makes the right business decisions
before it is too late.
 
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 1:59 PM 

To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?
 
All managers get sacked or quit and Mick will at some point.  You'll then be
able to say I've told you for the last four years he was no good.  I told
you when we won the Championship and stayed in the Premiership that he was
no good.
 
Many other people have been quite happy with Mick over the last few years.
I must admit I'm unhappy about our position and I can see why people are
turning against him.  However, I stand by these two points:
 
(a)  Statistical evidence that changing managers has no impact on
performance over a 

Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

2010-10-18 Thread Steven Millward
Big Sam.  I thought people wanted attractive football?  Why would he come?
Oh yes he's a Wolves fan so he's love to manage a small club on the brink of
relegation

Coppell.  Couldn't take the pressure of a relegation battle.

Curbishley.  Does he want a job as he hasn't worked for two years?

Coyle.  Why would he come?

O’Neill.  Why would he come?
You forgot Mourinho, Alex Ferguson and Ancelotti.

We've got no track record of attracting these sorts of managers.  You're
living in the 1950s


On 19 October 2010 09:10, Rog  Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote:

  Big Sam, Coppell, Curbishley, Coyle, O’Neill, anybody who runs a hot dog
 stand, Paul Bremer







 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:42 AM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?



 That's the thing.  He's one of the best managers in the Championship but we
 sacked him.  Having a lesser manager is surely going to be no good.



 We've been through this so many times.  At least if someone calls to sack
 Mick, can they please suggest a replacement.

 On 19 October 2010 08:34, LEESE Matthew matthew_le...@rta.nsw.gov.au
 wrote:

 Maybe we should give him another go?


  --

 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Rog  Reet

 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:32 AM


 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?



 That’s right.

 Was astounded he’d signed someone under 40 though.



 He’s not all bad, he has got Bothroyd playing regularly.







 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *LEESE Matthew
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:11 AM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?



 No way back for Dave Jones then Rog?


  --

 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Rog  Reet
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 7:52 AM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

 Anybody that signs Keogh, even on loan, should forever be banned from
 managing our glorious club.







 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Monday, 18 October 2010 4:26 PM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?



 So we should sack Mick on the basis that Morgan has someone great in the
 wings?  All I ask for is a couple of names.  The pool of qualified football
 managers is not that vast and it's all conducted in public so who should it
 be?



 There's a fella at Cardiff called Jones.  He's a successful lower league
 manager.  Maybe we should get him in.







 On 18 October 2010 14:26, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com
 wrote:

 I’ve always had an issue with MM and his selection policy (playing people
 out of position and preferring hard work over ability) but I have also given
 credit when we have put in good performances.  If you believe the current
 run of abject performances combined with a puzzling selection/recruitment
 policies is the way that you want our club to be run then you clearly have
 lower expectations or standards than I.  Yes he presents a funny post match
 conference but that’s just a ploy to distract people from the dire
 performances that he has overseen.



 As mere armchair supporters stranded in the Antipodeans how could we
 possibly comment on who an astute business man such as Morgan has
 connections to.  We automatically assume that we have to have someone of
 vast experience to make us successful.  By way of example only, our dear
 friends The Baggies appointed Roberto Di Matteo with only 1 year of
 managerial experience under his belt.  He won promotion in his first season
 and has a team playing attractive attacking football in the premier league.
 The unfancied Blackpool appointed a manager who is almost certifiable and
 has no previous record of success, yet he has managed to mould a team that,
 so far, has been successful playing attacking football.  Even if both these
 teams to do end up getting relegated at the end of the season, I’m sure
 their fans will have enjoyed the season much more than ourselves who are
 likely to achieve the same result (relegation) but only after suffering a
 season with a complete lack of creativity or attacking intent.



 We don’t know what Morgan’s master-plan is.  I’m fairly sure that even if
 he had people in mind to come and manage the club, we would be the last to
 hear about it, but all I’m saying is it doesn’t necessarily need to be a big
 name who we can look to statistics to demonstrate whether he is “better” or
 not that Thick Mick.



 I have faith that Morgan is a good businessman.  Wolves and Premier League
 football is a business.  Let’s hope he makes the right business decisions
 

RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

2010-10-18 Thread Marcus Chantry
Once again you're assuming it has to be someone with pedigree and/or
well know.  Who in their right mind would have had Roberto Di Matteo or
Ian Holloway on their list of suitable premiership managers?  Certainly
no one in this list has ever mentioned their names but at the moment
they are both doing a much better job than MM.  Our next manager could
well be someone from overseas or a lower division that we've never heard
of, but again that's not to say they won't do a better job than Thick
Mick (wouldn't be hard).

 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 9:41 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

 

Big Sam.  I thought people wanted attractive football?  Why would he
come?  Oh yes he's a Wolves fan so he's love to manage a small club on
the brink of relegation

 

Coppell.  Couldn't take the pressure of a relegation battle.

 

Curbishley.  Does he want a job as he hasn't worked for two years?

 

Coyle.  Why would he come?

 

O'Neill.  Why would he come?

You forgot Mourinho, Alex Ferguson and Ancelotti.

 

We've got no track record of attracting these sorts of managers.  You're
living in the 1950s

 

On 19 October 2010 09:10, Rog  Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote:

Big Sam, Coppell, Curbishley, Coyle, O'Neill, anybody who runs a hot dog
stand, Paul Bremer

 

 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:42 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

 

That's the thing.  He's one of the best managers in the Championship but
we sacked him.  Having a lesser manager is surely going to be no good.

 

We've been through this so many times.  At least if someone calls to
sack Mick, can they please suggest a replacement.

On 19 October 2010 08:34, LEESE Matthew matthew_le...@rta.nsw.gov.au
wrote:

Maybe we should give him another go?

 



From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Rog  Reet

Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:32 AM 


To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

 

That's right.

Was astounded he'd signed someone under 40 though.

 

He's not all bad, he has got Bothroyd playing regularly.

 

 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of LEESE Matthew
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:11 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

 

No way back for Dave Jones then Rog?

 



From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Rog  Reet
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 7:52 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

Anybody that signs Keogh, even on loan, should forever be banned from
managing our glorious club.

 

 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 4:26 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

 

So we should sack Mick on the basis that Morgan has someone great in the
wings?  All I ask for is a couple of names.  The pool of qualified
football managers is not that vast and it's all conducted in public so
who should it be?

 

There's a fella at Cardiff called Jones.  He's a successful lower league
manager.  Maybe we should get him in.

 



 

On 18 October 2010 14:26, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com
wrote:

I've always had an issue with MM and his selection policy (playing
people out of position and preferring hard work over ability) but I have
also given credit when we have put in good performances.  If you believe
the current run of abject performances combined with a puzzling
selection/recruitment policies is the way that you want our club to be
run then you clearly have lower expectations or standards than I.  Yes
he presents a funny post match conference but that's just a ploy to
distract people from the dire performances that he has overseen.

 

As mere armchair supporters stranded in the Antipodeans how could we
possibly comment on who an astute business man such as Morgan has
connections to.  We automatically assume that we have to have someone of
vast experience to make us successful.  By way of example only, our dear
friends The Baggies appointed Roberto Di Matteo with only 1 year of
managerial experience under his belt.  He won promotion in his first
season and has a team playing attractive attacking football in the
premier league.  The unfancied Blackpool appointed a manager who is
almost certifiable and has no previous record of success, yet he has
managed to mould a team that, so far, has been successful playing
attacking football.  Even if both these teams to do end up getting
relegated at the end of the season, I'm sure their fans will have
enjoyed the season 

Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

2010-10-18 Thread Steven Millward
I like the idea of Big Sam, but I can't see him coming.  He's at a bigger
club.  The only thing in it for him is to manage the club he supported as a
child but perhaps he doesn't want that anyway.

Holloway and Di Matteo have both got their clubs promoted to the Premier
League on small budgets.  We need to find someone that could do that but is
not them.  Burnley started like this last season and still got relegated so
let's not start worshipping these guys yet.

With Coyle and O'Neill, I can't understand what we have to offer them.  My
non-Wolves mates are saying O'Neill for the Liverpool job so why would he
come to us?  Bolton are better than Wolves so why would Coyle come?  It's
not like we've got loads of money or great players.  If you take your Wolves
hats off and put yourself in their position it would be a totally illogical
decision.

I presume Curbishley has had plenty of offers in the last couple of years so
why has he turned them down?

I can imagine Wolves trying to get someone that has managed a national side
as we've done it twice before with Taylor and Hoddle.  We only got those
because they were in disgrace.  You still groan about Hoddle now and he
hasn't been here for four years so he must have made an impression.

I hope we get someone that you both endorse next time.  I wish we had got
Paul Ince last time so I could have moaned about him for the season that he
lasted.  Or Richard Money, now at the lofty heights of Luton in the
conference.

So sack Mick, bring in one of the above and I can have a good whinge.

On 19 October 2010 10:04, Rog  Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote:

  Big Sam. Not a serial failure. Blackburn have improved markedly since the
 start of last season in stark contrast to us.



 Coppell. Recognises when things aren’t going well and does the honourable
 thing.



 Curbishley. How long must you be out of work for to be ruled out of
 contention?



 Coyle, Why wouldn’t he. He has changed jobs before you know.



 O’Neill. Why wouldn’t he come. Has he been out of work for too long?



 No track record of attracting these “sorts of managers”?

 Better not try for anybody above our station then.

 Can you imagine tiny little Wolves having the audacity to try for somebody
 who’s managed say a national side?











 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 9:41 AM

 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?



 Big Sam.  I thought people wanted attractive football?  Why would he come?
 Oh yes he's a Wolves fan so he's love to manage a small club on the brink of
 relegation



 Coppell.  Couldn't take the pressure of a relegation battle.



 Curbishley.  Does he want a job as he hasn't worked for two years?



 Coyle.  Why would he come?



 O’Neill.  Why would he come?

 You forgot Mourinho, Alex Ferguson and Ancelotti.



 We've got no track record of attracting these sorts of managers.  You're
 living in the 1950s



 On 19 October 2010 09:10, Rog  Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote:

 Big Sam, Coppell, Curbishley, Coyle, O’Neill, anybody who runs a hot dog
 stand, Paul Bremer







 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:42 AM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?



 That's the thing.  He's one of the best managers in the Championship but we
 sacked him.  Having a lesser manager is surely going to be no good.



 We've been through this so many times.  At least if someone calls to sack
 Mick, can they please suggest a replacement.

 On 19 October 2010 08:34, LEESE Matthew matthew_le...@rta.nsw.gov.au
 wrote:

 Maybe we should give him another go?


  --

 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Rog  Reet

 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:32 AM


 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?



 That’s right.

 Was astounded he’d signed someone under 40 though.



 He’s not all bad, he has got Bothroyd playing regularly.







 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *LEESE Matthew
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:11 AM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?



 No way back for Dave Jones then Rog?


  --

 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Rog  Reet
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 7:52 AM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

 Anybody that signs Keogh, even on loan, should forever be banned from
 managing our glorious club.







 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Monday, 18 October 2010 4:26 PM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: 

Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

2010-10-18 Thread paul
Blackburn bigger than the Wolves!
What are you smoking Steve?
Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra

-Original Message-
From: Steven Millward millward@gmail.com
Sender: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:58:52 
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Reply-To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?

I like the idea of Big Sam, but I can't see him coming.  He's at a bigger
club.  The only thing in it for him is to manage the club he supported as a
child but perhaps he doesn't want that anyway.

Holloway and Di Matteo have both got their clubs promoted to the Premier
League on small budgets.  We need to find someone that could do that but is
not them.  Burnley started like this last season and still got relegated so
let's not start worshipping these guys yet.

With Coyle and O'Neill, I can't understand what we have to offer them.  My
non-Wolves mates are saying O'Neill for the Liverpool job so why would he
come to us?  Bolton are better than Wolves so why would Coyle come?  It's
not like we've got loads of money or great players.  If you take your Wolves
hats off and put yourself in their position it would be a totally illogical
decision.

I presume Curbishley has had plenty of offers in the last couple of years so
why has he turned them down?

I can imagine Wolves trying to get someone that has managed a national side
as we've done it twice before with Taylor and Hoddle.  We only got those
because they were in disgrace.  You still groan about Hoddle now and he
hasn't been here for four years so he must have made an impression.

I hope we get someone that you both endorse next time.  I wish we had got
Paul Ince last time so I could have moaned about him for the season that he
lasted.  Or Richard Money, now at the lofty heights of Luton in the
conference.

So sack Mick, bring in one of the above and I can have a good whinge.

On 19 October 2010 10:04, Rog  Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote:

  Big Sam. Not a serial failure. Blackburn have improved markedly since the
 start of last season in stark contrast to us.



 Coppell. Recognises when things aren’t going well and does the honourable
 thing.



 Curbishley. How long must you be out of work for to be ruled out of
 contention?



 Coyle, Why wouldn’t he. He has changed jobs before you know.



 O’Neill. Why wouldn’t he come. Has he been out of work for too long?



 No track record of attracting these “sorts of managers”?

 Better not try for anybody above our station then.

 Can you imagine tiny little Wolves having the audacity to try for somebody
 who’s managed say a national side?











 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 9:41 AM

 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?



 Big Sam.  I thought people wanted attractive football?  Why would he come?
 Oh yes he's a Wolves fan so he's love to manage a small club on the brink of
 relegation



 Coppell.  Couldn't take the pressure of a relegation battle.



 Curbishley.  Does he want a job as he hasn't worked for two years?



 Coyle.  Why would he come?



 O’Neill.  Why would he come?

 You forgot Mourinho, Alex Ferguson and Ancelotti.



 We've got no track record of attracting these sorts of managers.  You're
 living in the 1950s



 On 19 October 2010 09:10, Rog  Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote:

 Big Sam, Coppell, Curbishley, Coyle, O’Neill, anybody who runs a hot dog
 stand, Paul Bremer







 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:42 AM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?



 That's the thing.  He's one of the best managers in the Championship but we
 sacked him.  Having a lesser manager is surely going to be no good.



 We've been through this so many times.  At least if someone calls to sack
 Mick, can they please suggest a replacement.

 On 19 October 2010 08:34, LEESE Matthew matthew_le...@rta.nsw.gov.au
 wrote:

 Maybe we should give him another go?


  --

 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Rog  Reet

 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:32 AM


 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?



 That’s right.

 Was astounded he’d signed someone under 40 though.



 He’s not all bad, he has got Bothroyd playing regularly.







 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *LEESE Matthew
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 8:11 AM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [BTMO] Splinter Cell?



 No way back for Dave Jones then Rog?


  --

 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Rog  Reet
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 October 2010 7:52 AM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com