Re: [NSWolves] Karl Henry Stats [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-12-20 Thread Marcus Chantry
In the words of Hilaire Belloc: It has long been recognised by public men of 
all kinds, that statistics come under the head of lying, and that no lie is so 
false or inconclusive as that which is based on statistics.

 

On 20/12/2011, at 10:42 , Steven Millward wrote:

 Nothing.  I showed you a table that showed that 18 of 20 teams were within 3 
 places of the forecast and 15 were within 2 places.  There is an element of 
 luck and other factors in this as I explained in my earlier response to Matt. 
  It's not a perfect model but it explains 90% of variability.
 
 
  
 On 20 December 2011 10:22, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 ok, let's see how much you trust your statistics.  How much are you willing 
 to place on a bet that Wolves will finish exactly fourth from bottom?
 
 
 On 20/12/2011, at 10:20 , Steven Millward wrote:
 
 See you're trying to discredit me by the absurd.  The last bastion of a 
 scoundrel.
  
 I say there is a need for a manager to do the things that managers do, but 
 that beyond a certain level of competence and experience there is very 
 little difference in the influence they have on performance.
  
 We need a manager.
 My analysis says that Mick is a good one.
 We should focus on something that is of more importance than this 
 superstitious nonsense.
 
 On 20 December 2011 10:05, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 you are correct that insurance is very heavily dependant on statistics for 
 assessing and pricing for risks.  However, I am not an actuary and my role 
 for the best part of 17 years has been to challenge actuaries to ensure that 
 my products are affordable and sustainable, in effect disproving many of the 
 stats that they use to paint a certain doom  gloom picture.  Actuaries can 
 make stats tell whatever story they want them to, but they are very 
 conservative by nature and only assess the stats that they think help their 
 argument.  Sound familiar Steve?
 
 Let's think outside the square and devise a system whereby each season 
 ticket holder is given a one month tenure as team selector.  This does away 
 with the need to have a manager and coaching staff but leaves one person 
 that can be blamed each month depending on performances (over which they've 
 clearly had no effect one).  Save money and remove the unnecessary 
 managerial merry-go-round.
 
 
 On 20/12/2011, at 09:30 , Steven Millward wrote:
 
 Interesting point of view from someone that works in insurance, an industry 
 that is entirely based on the statistical pricing of risk.
  
 Please take the stats I have presented and make them support your agenda.  
 I can send you the spreadsheet if you want to have a go.
  
 I understand it must be confronting to have long held belief destroyed in 
 front of your eyes.  I suppose you can always rely on faith and ignore 
 the facts
 
 On 20 December 2011 08:40, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Stats can be made to support any agenda that a person wants to push.  
 Climate Change is the perfect example of how both sides can manipulate 
 statistics to support their own agenda. 
 
 
 On 20/12/2011, at 08:36 , Jeremy Tonks wrote:
 
 You’ve missed the point Lee ;)
 
  
 
 How much is he being paid?
 
  
 
 I’m not sure 1 game without him this season gives us any statistical 
 validity?!
 
 I think I’d like to see which games he missed (as in opponents) as well.
 
  
 
  
 
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT
 Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 8:30 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [NSWolves] Karl Henry Stats [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
 
  
 
 UNCLASSIFIED
 
 Whilst on the subject of statistics, did anyone else see the Karl Henry 
 stats on Mol Mix?
 
  
 
 Are these stats too much of a coincidence
 
  
 
  
 
 2010-2011 - With Karl Henry
 P28 ( + 1 sub )
 W7 ( 21 points )
 D6 ( 6 points )
 L16
 Pts: 27
 
  
 
 2010-2011 - Without Karl Henry
 P9 
 W4 ( 12 points )
 D1 ( 1 point )
 L4
 Pts: 13 points
 
 
 2011-2012 - With Karl Henry
 P 14 
 W3 ( 9 points )
 D2 ( 2 points )
 L9
 Pts: 11
 
 2011-2012 - Without Karl Henry
 P1 
 W1 ( 3 points )
 Pts: 3
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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 If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the 
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 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Jeremy Tonks
 Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 07:21
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Welcome Back Matthew [sec=unclassified] 
 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
 
 I’m not going to put Sunderland in that basket for a few more weeks yet…
 
 …and the wages statistics still tell me that Sh*te will fall on their 
 collective backsides sooner rather than later J
 
  
 
  
 
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of 

Re: [NSWolves] Karl Henry Stats [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-12-20 Thread Steven Millward
Interesting choice of quote.

Belloc was an anti-Semetic, anti-Islamic Catholic who asserted that the
Theory of Evolution had been completely discredited.

Someone else who didn't like facts getting in the way of dogmatic personal
belief and superstition.

On 20 December 2011 19:51, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 In the words of Hilaire Belloc: It has long been recognised by public men
 of all kinds, that statistics come under the head of lying, and that no lie
 is so false or inconclusive as that which is based on statistics.



 On 20/12/2011, at 10:42 , Steven Millward wrote:

 Nothing.  I showed you a table that showed that 18 of 20 teams were within
 3 places of the forecast and 15 were within 2 places.  There is an element
 of luck and other factors in this as I explained in my earlier response to
 Matt.  It's not a perfect model but it explains 90% of variability.



 On 20 December 2011 10:22, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 ok, let's see how much you trust your statistics.  How much are you
 willing to place on a bet that Wolves will finish exactly fourth from
 bottom?


  On 20/12/2011, at 10:20 , Steven Millward wrote:

  See you're trying to discredit me by the absurd.  The last bastion of a
 scoundrel.

 I say there is a need for a manager to do the things that managers do,
 but that beyond a certain level of competence and experience there is very
 little difference in the influence they have on performance.

 We need a manager.
 My analysis says that Mick is a good one.
 We should focus on something that is of more importance than this
 superstitious nonsense.

 On 20 December 2011 10:05, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 you are correct that insurance is very heavily dependant on statistics
 for assessing and pricing for risks.  However, I am not an actuary and my
 role for the best part of 17 years has been to challenge actuaries to
 ensure that my products are affordable and sustainable, in effect
 disproving many of the stats that they use to paint a certain doom  gloom
 picture.  Actuaries can make stats tell whatever story they want them to,
 but they are very conservative by nature and only assess the stats that
 they think help their argument.  Sound familiar Steve?

 Let's think outside the square and devise a system whereby each season
 ticket holder is given a one month tenure as team selector.  This does away
 with the need to have a manager and coaching staff but leaves one person
 that can be blamed each month depending on performances (over which they've
 clearly had no effect one).  Save money and remove the unnecessary
 managerial merry-go-round.


  On 20/12/2011, at 09:30 , Steven Millward wrote:

  Interesting point of view from someone that works in insurance, an
 industry that is entirely based on the statistical pricing of risk.

 Please take the stats I have presented and make them support your
 agenda.  I can send you the spreadsheet if you want to have a go.

 I understand it must be confronting to have long held belief destroyed
 in front of your eyes.  I suppose you can always rely on faith and ignore
 the facts

 On 20 December 2011 08:40, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Stats can be made to support any agenda that a person wants to push.
  Climate Change is the perfect example of how both sides can manipulate
 statistics to support their own agenda.


  On 20/12/2011, at 08:36 , Jeremy Tonks wrote:

 **

 You’ve missed the point Lee ;)

 ** **

 How much is he being paid?

 ** **

 I’m not sure 1 game without him this season gives us any statistical
 validity?!

 I think I’d like to see which games he missed (as in opponents) as well.
 

 ** **

 ** **
  --

 *From:* **nswolves@googlegroups.com** [mailto:**
 nswolves@googlegroups.com**] *On Behalf Of *Morris, Lee SGT
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 December 2011 8:30 AM
 *To:* **nswolves@googlegroups.com**
 *Subject:* [NSWolves] Karl Henry Stats [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

 ** **

 *UNCLASSIFIED*

 Whilst on the subject of statistics, did anyone else see the Karl Henry
 stats on Mol Mix?

  

 Are these stats too much of a coincidence

  

  

 *2010-2011 - With Karl Henry*
 P28 ( + 1 sub )
 W7 ( 21 points )
 D6 ( 6 points )
 L16
 Pts: 27

  

 *2010-2011 - Without Karl Henry**
 *P9
 W4 ( 12 points )
 D1 ( 1 point )
 L4
 Pts: 13 points


 *2011-2012 - With Karl Henry*
 P 14
 W3 ( 9 points )
 D2 ( 2 points )
 L9
 Pts: 11

 *2011-2012 - Without Karl Henry*
 P1
 W1 ( 3 points )
 Pts: 3

  

  

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Re: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages

2011-12-20 Thread Steven Millward
Thanks for these Paul.  It's interesting that the correlation is even
stronger the year before.

When you combine both seasons, the chance of data falling into line like
that by chance is about one in 59,000,000,000 (59 billion).



On 20 December 2011 16:14, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote:

 Dear Steve,

 ** **

 I found these figures on the web from Deloitte’s annual football report
 for season 2009 to 2010, the season before your figures. Results as follows:
 

 ** **

 Team..League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference
 Burnley. .18..191
 Fulham12...11.. ..-1
 Stoke11...14.. ..3
 Spurs..57. ...2
 Man Utd..23... ..1
 Wolves..18...15... .3
 Blackpool...19...20... .1
 Arsenal...3.5. ...2
 Everton..8.8.. ..0
 Wigan...16...15... .-1
 Hull City..19...16 -3
 Bolton...13...14.. ..1
 Chelsea..1.1.. .0
 Birmingham.17...9 ..8
 Man City.5.2.. .-3
 Liverpool.6.4. ..-2
 Sunderland.108 -2
 Aston villa...9.6...-3
 Blackburn...15...12... -3
 West Ham..1710...-7

 Compared to your results for last season 2010 to 2011:

 ** **

 Team..League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference
 West Brom..11..198
 Fulham8...11.. ..3
 Stoke13...15.. ..2
 Spurs..57. ...2
 Man Utd..13... ..2
 Wolves..17...18... .1
 Blackpool...19...20... .1
 Arsenal...4.5. ...1
 Everton..7.8.. ..1
 Wigan...16...16... .0
 Newcastle..12...12 0
 Bolton...14...14.. ..0
 Chelsea..2.1.. .-1
 Birmingham.18...17 ..-1
 Man City.3.2.. .-1
 Liverpool.6.4. ..-2
 Sunderland.108 -2
 Aston villa...9.6...-3
 Blackburn...15...12... -3
 West Ham..208...-12

 ** **

 Ok, pretty similar results. The 2 x anomaly’s for 2009 to 2010 being
 Birmingham and West Ham. Interesting that West Ham went up 2 x places in
 terms of the wage table for last season compared to the previous year but
 ended up finishing bottom and were relegated.

 Pity Deloitte do not publish their reports. Anybody have the figures for
 the season 2008 to 2009? 

 Still not convinced Manager’s have no effect whatsoever and that 90% of
 team performance is directly attributed to wage bill spend. 

 Regards

 Paul.

  

 ** **

 Paul Crowe

 Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

  

 ConTech (Sydney Office)

  

 PO Box 3517

 Rhodes Waterside

 Rhodes NSW  2138

 Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

 Mob: 0406009562

 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

 Website: www.contechengineering.com

 ** **

 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 December 2011 2:36 PM
 *To:* nswolves
 *Subject:* [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages

 ** **

 Here's the wages data that Paul Crowe asked for,  It's more or less the
 same as the data I have already shared.

  

 West Ham is an outlier and linear regression is not robust so you get a
 stronger r-squared when you take it out.  God knows what happened to them
 last season

 --
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.

 --
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.


-- 
Boo! Thick Mick Out.


RE: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages

2011-12-20 Thread Rog Reet
If only bookies gave out prizes for getting 35 out of 40 wrong.
I'd be a millionaire, hang on, no I'd be a billionaire.
 
 
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 8:57 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages
 
Thanks for these Paul.  It's interesting that the correlation is even
stronger the year before.

When you combine both seasons, the chance of data falling into line like
that by chance is about one in 59,000,000,000 (59 billion).  



On 20 December 2011 16:14, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote:
Dear Steve,
 
I found these figures on the web from Deloitte's annual football report for
season 2009 to 2010, the season before your figures. Results as follows:
 
Team..League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference 
Burnley. .18..191 
Fulham12...11.. ..-1 
Stoke11...14.. ..3 
Spurs..57. ...2 
Man Utd..23... ..1 
Wolves..18...15... .3 
Blackpool...19...20... .1 
Arsenal...3.5. ...2 
Everton..8.8.. ..0 
Wigan...16...15... .-1 
Hull City..19...16 -3 
Bolton...13...14.. ..1 
Chelsea..1.1.. .0 
Birmingham.17...9 ..8 
Man City.5.2.. .-3 
Liverpool.6.4. ..-2 
Sunderland.108 -2 
Aston villa...9.6...-3 
Blackburn...15...12... -3 
West Ham..1710...-7
Compared to your results for last season 2010 to 2011:
 
Team..League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference 
West Brom..11..198 
Fulham8...11.. ..3 
Stoke13...15.. ..2 
Spurs..57. ...2 
Man Utd..13... ..2 
Wolves..17...18... .1 
Blackpool...19...20... .1 
Arsenal...4.5. ...1 
Everton..7.8.. ..1 
Wigan...16...16... .0 
Newcastle..12...12 0 
Bolton...14...14.. ..0 
Chelsea..2.1.. .-1 
Birmingham.18...17 ..-1 
Man City.3.2.. .-1 
Liverpool.6.4. ..-2 
Sunderland.108 -2 
Aston villa...9.6...-3 
Blackburn...15...12... -3 
West Ham..208...-12
 
Ok, pretty similar results. The 2 x anomaly's for 2009 to 2010 being
Birmingham and West Ham. Interesting that West Ham went up 2 x places in
terms of the wage table for last season compared to the previous year but
ended up finishing bottom and were relegated.
Pity Deloitte do not publish their reports. Anybody have the figures for the
season 2008 to 2009? 
Still not convinced Manager's have no effect whatsoever and that 90% of team
performance is directly attributed to wage bill spend. 
Regards
Paul.
 
 
Paul Crowe
Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
 
ConTech (Sydney Office)
 
PO Box 3517
Rhodes Waterside
Rhodes NSW  2138
Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542
Mob: 0406009562
Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com
Website: www.contechengineering.com
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 2:36 PM
To: nswolves
Subject: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages
 
Here's the wages data that Paul Crowe asked for,  It's more or less the same
as the data I have already shared.
 
West Ham is an outlier and linear regression is not robust so you get a
stronger r-squared when you take it out.  God knows what happened to them
last season
-- 
Boo! Thick Mick Out.
-- 
Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
-- 
Boo! Thick Mick Out.

-- 
Boo! Thick Mick Out.


RE: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages

2011-12-20 Thread Jeremy Tonks
What are you smoking Rog?

They do give out prizes for being only one place out though don't they?

 

You'd have only done your money in 22 out of 40 (but you can get a pay out
for missing by two in an each way bet. in which case you'd have won 27 out
of 40)

 

I reckon that's about as good as a super punter like yourself ever does.?

 

  _  

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rog  Reet
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 10:22 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages

 

If only bookies gave out prizes for getting 35 out of 40 wrong.

I'd be a millionaire, hang on, no I'd be a billionaire.

 

 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 8:57 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages

 

Thanks for these Paul.  It's interesting that the correlation is even
stronger the year before.

When you combine both seasons, the chance of data falling into line like
that by chance is about one in 59,000,000,000 (59 billion).  




On 20 December 2011 16:14, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote:

Dear Steve,

 

I found these figures on the web from Deloitte's annual football report for
season 2009 to 2010, the season before your figures. Results as follows:

 

Team..League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference 
Burnley. .18..191 
Fulham12...11.. ..-1 
Stoke11...14.. ..3 
Spurs..57. ...2 
Man Utd..23... ..1 
Wolves..18...15... .3 
Blackpool...19...20... .1 
Arsenal...3.5. ...2 
Everton..8.8.. ..0 
Wigan...16...15... .-1 
Hull City..19...16 -3 
Bolton...13...14.. ..1 
Chelsea..1.1.. .0 
Birmingham.17...9 ..8 
Man City.5.2.. .-3 
Liverpool.6.4. ..-2 
Sunderland.108 -2 
Aston villa...9.6...-3 
Blackburn...15...12... -3 
West Ham..1710...-7

Compared to your results for last season 2010 to 2011:

 

Team..League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference 
West Brom..11..198 
Fulham8...11.. ..3 
Stoke13...15.. ..2 
Spurs..57. ...2 
Man Utd..13... ..2 
Wolves..17...18... .1 
Blackpool...19...20... .1 
Arsenal...4.5. ...1 
Everton..7.8.. ..1 
Wigan...16...16... .0 
Newcastle..12...12 0 
Bolton...14...14.. ..0 
Chelsea..2.1.. .-1 
Birmingham.18...17 ..-1 
Man City.3.2.. .-1 
Liverpool.6.4. ..-2 
Sunderland.108 -2 
Aston villa...9.6...-3 
Blackburn...15...12... -3 
West Ham..208...-12

 

Ok, pretty similar results. The 2 x anomaly's for 2009 to 2010 being
Birmingham and West Ham. Interesting that West Ham went up 2 x places in
terms of the wage table for last season compared to the previous year but
ended up finishing bottom and were relegated.

Pity Deloitte do not publish their reports. Anybody have the figures for the
season 2008 to 2009? 

Still not convinced Manager's have no effect whatsoever and that 90% of team
performance is directly attributed to wage bill spend. 

Regards

Paul.

 

 

Paul Crowe

Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

 

ConTech (Sydney Office)

 

PO Box 3517

Rhodes Waterside

Rhodes NSW  2138

Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

Mob: 0406009562

Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

Website: www.contechengineering.com

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 2:36 PM
To: nswolves
Subject: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages

 

Here's the wages data that Paul Crowe asked for,  It's more or less the same
as the data I 

Re: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages

2011-12-20 Thread Steven Millward
It's like putting pearls before swine.

On 20 December 2011 22:22, Rog  Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote:

 If only bookies gave out prizes for getting 35 out of 40 wrong.

 I’d be a millionaire, hang on, no I’d be a billionaire.

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 December 2011 8:57 PM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages

 ** **

 Thanks for these Paul.  It's interesting that the correlation is even
 stronger the year before.

 When you combine both seasons, the chance of data falling into line like
 that by chance is about one in 59,000,000,000 (59 billion).

 **
 **

 On 20 December 2011 16:14, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com
 wrote:

 Dear Steve,

  

 I found these figures on the web from Deloitte’s annual football report
 for season 2009 to 2010, the season before your figures. Results as follows:
 

  

 Team..League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference
 Burnley. .18..191
 Fulham12...11.. ..-1
 Stoke11...14.. ..3
 Spurs..57. ...2
 Man Utd..23... ..1
 Wolves..18...15... .3
 Blackpool...19...20... .1
 Arsenal...3.5. ...2
 Everton..8.8.. ..0
 Wigan...16...15... .-1
 Hull City..19...16 -3
 Bolton...13...14.. ..1
 Chelsea..1.1.. .0
 Birmingham.17...9 ..8
 Man City.5.2.. .-3
 Liverpool.6.4. ..-2
 Sunderland.108 -2
 Aston villa...9.6...-3
 Blackburn...15...12... -3
 West Ham..1710...-7

 Compared to your results for last season 2010 to 2011:

  

 Team..League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference
 West Brom..11..198
 Fulham8...11.. ..3
 Stoke13...15.. ..2
 Spurs..57. ...2
 Man Utd..13... ..2
 Wolves..17...18... .1
 Blackpool...19...20... .1
 Arsenal...4.5. ...1
 Everton..7.8.. ..1
 Wigan...16...16... .0
 Newcastle..12...12 0
 Bolton...14...14.. ..0
 Chelsea..2.1.. .-1
 Birmingham.18...17 ..-1
 Man City.3.2.. .-1
 Liverpool.6.4. ..-2
 Sunderland.108 -2
 Aston villa...9.6...-3
 Blackburn...15...12... -3
 West Ham..208...-12

  

 Ok, pretty similar results. The 2 x anomaly’s for 2009 to 2010 being
 Birmingham and West Ham. Interesting that West Ham went up 2 x places in
 terms of the wage table for last season compared to the previous year but
 ended up finishing bottom and were relegated.

 Pity Deloitte do not publish their reports. Anybody have the figures for
 the season 2008 to 2009? 

 Still not convinced Manager’s have no effect whatsoever and that 90% of
 team performance is directly attributed to wage bill spend. 

 Regards

 Paul.

  

  

 Paul Crowe

 Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

  

 ConTech (Sydney Office)

  

 PO Box 3517

 Rhodes Waterside

 Rhodes NSW  2138

 Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

 Mob: 0406009562

 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

 Website: www.contechengineering.com

  

 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 December 2011 2:36 PM
 *To:* nswolves
 *Subject:* [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages

  

 Here's the wages data that Paul Crowe asked for,  It's more or less the
 same as the data I have already shared.

  

 West Ham is an outlier and linear regression is not robust so you get a
 stronger r-squared when you take it out.  God knows what happened to them
 last season

 --
 Boo! 

[NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Jeremy Tonks
Great goal - shame it should have been flagged for offside. There's that 10%
again Surman!! :-(

 

  _  

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 6:16 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages

 

It's like putting pearls before swine.

On 20 December 2011 22:22, Rog  Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote:

If only bookies gave out prizes for getting 35 out of 40 wrong.

I'd be a millionaire, hang on, no I'd be a billionaire.

 

 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 8:57 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages

 

Thanks for these Paul.  It's interesting that the correlation is even
stronger the year before.

When you combine both seasons, the chance of data falling into line like
that by chance is about one in 59,000,000,000 (59 billion).  



On 20 December 2011 16:14, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote:

Dear Steve,

 

I found these figures on the web from Deloitte's annual football report for
season 2009 to 2010, the season before your figures. Results as follows:

 

Team..League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference 
Burnley. .18..191 
Fulham12...11.. ..-1 
Stoke11...14.. ..3 
Spurs..57. ...2 
Man Utd..23... ..1 
Wolves..18...15... .3 
Blackpool...19...20... .1 
Arsenal...3.5. ...2 
Everton..8.8.. ..0 
Wigan...16...15... .-1 
Hull City..19...16 -3 
Bolton...13...14.. ..1 
Chelsea..1.1.. .0 
Birmingham.17...9 ..8 
Man City.5.2.. .-3 
Liverpool.6.4. ..-2 
Sunderland.108 -2 
Aston villa...9.6...-3 
Blackburn...15...12... -3 
West Ham..1710...-7

Compared to your results for last season 2010 to 2011:

 

Team..League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference 
West Brom..11..198 
Fulham8...11.. ..3 
Stoke13...15.. ..2 
Spurs..57. ...2 
Man Utd..13... ..2 
Wolves..17...18... .1 
Blackpool...19...20... .1 
Arsenal...4.5. ...1 
Everton..7.8.. ..1 
Wigan...16...16... .0 
Newcastle..12...12 0 
Bolton...14...14.. ..0 
Chelsea..2.1.. .-1 
Birmingham.18...17 ..-1 
Man City.3.2.. .-1 
Liverpool.6.4. ..-2 
Sunderland.108 -2 
Aston villa...9.6...-3 
Blackburn...15...12... -3 
West Ham..208...-12

 

Ok, pretty similar results. The 2 x anomaly's for 2009 to 2010 being
Birmingham and West Ham. Interesting that West Ham went up 2 x places in
terms of the wage table for last season compared to the previous year but
ended up finishing bottom and were relegated.

Pity Deloitte do not publish their reports. Anybody have the figures for the
season 2008 to 2009? 

Still not convinced Manager's have no effect whatsoever and that 90% of team
performance is directly attributed to wage bill spend. 

Regards

Paul.

 

 

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From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 2:36 PM
To: nswolves
Subject: [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages

 

Here's the wages data that Paul Crowe asked for,  It's more or less the same
as the data I have already shared.

 

West Ham is an outlier and linear regression is not robust so you get a
stronger r-squared when you take 

[NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Chantrys
Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as daylight the 
difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective hoof-ball 
whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession football, which is 
making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary. 


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RE: [NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Rog Reet
Nothing to do with managers, all we have to do is quadruple our wages at
half time and the game's ours.


-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chantrys
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:10 AM
To: NSWolves
Subject: [NSWolves] Norwich

Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as daylight the
difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective hoof-ball
whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession football, which
is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary. 


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RE: [NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Jeremy Tonks
Not a great goal - but better than Hunt's miss!



-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rog  Reet
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:18 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Norwich

Nothing to do with managers, all we have to do is quadruple our wages at
half time and the game's ours.


-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chantrys
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:10 AM
To: NSWolves
Subject: [NSWolves] Norwich

Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as daylight the
difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective hoof-ball
whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession football, which
is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary. 


Sent from my iPad

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Boo! Thick Mick Out.

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Boo! Thick Mick Out.

-- 
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Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Chantrys
That's actually a good idea Rog. Mick can use his halftime talk to give 
everyone a pay rise and then our season is safe. Genius!


Sent from my iPad

On 21/12/2011, at 7:18, Rog  Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote:

 Nothing to do with managers, all we have to do is quadruple our wages at
 half time and the game's ours.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:10 AM
 To: NSWolves
 Subject: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
 Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as daylight the
 difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective hoof-ball
 whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession football, which
 is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary. 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
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RE: [NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Jeremy Tonks
Which is it Marcus? Are they playing hoof ball or a poor passing game?


-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chantrys
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:18 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

Im beginning to think that our players are colour blind as they only seem to
be capable of passing the ball to players in green shirts.


Sent from my iPad

On 21/12/2011, at 7:10, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as daylight the
difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective hoof-ball
whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession football, which
is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary. 
 
 
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Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Chantrys
Sorry, I meant every time we hoof it it goes to a Norwich player. 

Sent from my iPad

On 21/12/2011, at 7:25, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:

 Which is it Marcus? Are they playing hoof ball or a poor passing game?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:18 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
 Im beginning to think that our players are colour blind as they only seem to
 be capable of passing the ball to players in green shirts.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:10, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as daylight the
 difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective hoof-ball
 whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession football, which
 is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary. 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 -- 
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
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RE: [NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Jeremy Tonks
Well that was a half of two halves! For the last 20mins we've looked the
goods. If only Hunt could hit the side of a barn...


-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chantrys
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:27 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

Sorry, I meant every time we hoof it it goes to a Norwich player. 

Sent from my iPad

On 21/12/2011, at 7:25, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:

 Which is it Marcus? Are they playing hoof ball or a poor passing game?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:18 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
 Im beginning to think that our players are colour blind as they only seem
to
 be capable of passing the ball to players in green shirts.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:10, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as daylight the
 difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective
hoof-ball
 whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession football,
which
 is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary. 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 -- 
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
 -- 
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
 -- 
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-- 
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Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Chantrys
Good response in the second half of the first half. Let's see how many halves 
there are in the second half. 

Sent from my iPad

On 21/12/2011, at 7:32, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:

 Well that was a half of two halves! For the last 20mins we've looked the
 goods. If only Hunt could hit the side of a barn...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:27 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
 Sorry, I meant every time we hoof it it goes to a Norwich player. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:25, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:
 
 Which is it Marcus? Are they playing hoof ball or a poor passing game?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:18 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
 Im beginning to think that our players are colour blind as they only seem
 to
 be capable of passing the ball to players in green shirts.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:10, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as daylight the
 difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective
 hoof-ball
 whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession football,
 which
 is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary. 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 -- 
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
 -- 
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
 -- 
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
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Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Marcus Chantry
Hear the commentators then: master stroke by Lambert. Is he the manager that 
made the inspired substitution

Sent from my iPhone

On 21/12/2011, at 7:36 AM, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Good response in the second half of the first half. Let's see how many halves 
 there are in the second half. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:32, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:
 
 Well that was a half of two halves! For the last 20mins we've looked the
 goods. If only Hunt could hit the side of a barn...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:27 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
 Sorry, I meant every time we hoof it it goes to a Norwich player. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:25, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:
 
 Which is it Marcus? Are they playing hoof ball or a poor passing game?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:18 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
 Im beginning to think that our players are colour blind as they only seem
 to
 be capable of passing the ball to players in green shirts.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:10, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as daylight the
 difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective
 hoof-ball
 whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession football,
 which
 is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary. 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 -- 
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
 -- 
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
 -- 
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
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Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Marcus Chantry
What a great match. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 21/12/2011, at 8:24 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Great delivery from milijas; great header from zubar
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 8:22 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Or maybe the sub is better paid than the guy he replaced?
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 8:20 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hear the commentators then: master stroke by Lambert. Is he the manager 
 that made the inspired substitution
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:36 AM, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Good response in the second half of the first half. Let's see how many 
 halves there are in the second half. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:32, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:
 
 Well that was a half of two halves! For the last 20mins we've looked the
 goods. If only Hunt could hit the side of a barn...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:27 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
 Sorry, I meant every time we hoof it it goes to a Norwich player. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:25, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:
 
 Which is it Marcus? Are they playing hoof ball or a poor passing game?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:18 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
 Im beginning to think that our players are colour blind as they only seem
 to
 be capable of passing the ball to players in green shirts.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:10, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as daylight 
 the
 difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective
 hoof-ball
 whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession football,
 which
 is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary. 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 -- 
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
 -- 
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
 -- 
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
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RE: [NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Jeremy Tonks
Damn good game of football in the end. I reckon we were very very unlucky
not to win. Two really atrocious misses (Hunt and Ward?). Really enjoyed the
last 70mins of entertaining football.



-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marcus Chantry
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 8:25 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

Great delivery from milijas; great header from zubar

Sent from my iPhone

On 21/12/2011, at 8:22 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Or maybe the sub is better paid than the guy he replaced?
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 8:20 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hear the commentators then: master stroke by Lambert. Is he the manager
that made the inspired substitution
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:36 AM, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Good response in the second half of the first half. Let's see how many
halves there are in the second half. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:32, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:
 
 Well that was a half of two halves! For the last 20mins we've looked
the
 goods. If only Hunt could hit the side of a barn...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:27 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
 Sorry, I meant every time we hoof it it goes to a Norwich player. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:25, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:
 
 Which is it Marcus? Are they playing hoof ball or a poor passing game?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:18 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
 Im beginning to think that our players are colour blind as they only
seem
 to
 be capable of passing the ball to players in green shirts.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:10, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as daylight
the
 difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective
 hoof-ball
 whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession football,
 which
 is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary. 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
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 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
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 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
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Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Parkes Jim - Sydney-MHA
What an incredible last few minutes

- Original Message -
From: Marcus Chantry [mailto:chant...@iinet.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 08:36 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

What a great match.

Sent from my iPhone

On 21/12/2011, at 8:24 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Great delivery from milijas; great header from zubar

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 21/12/2011, at 8:22 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Or maybe the sub is better paid than the guy he replaced?


 Sent from my iPhone

 On 21/12/2011, at 8:20 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hear the commentators then: master stroke by Lambert. Is he the manager 
 that made the inspired substitution

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 21/12/2011, at 7:36 AM, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Good response in the second half of the first half. Let's see how many 
 halves there are in the second half.

 Sent from my iPad

 On 21/12/2011, at 7:32, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:

 Well that was a half of two halves! For the last 20mins we've looked the
 goods. If only Hunt could hit the side of a barn...


 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:27 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

 Sorry, I meant every time we hoof it it goes to a Norwich player.

 Sent from my iPad

 On 21/12/2011, at 7:25, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:

 Which is it Marcus? Are they playing hoof ball or a poor passing game?


 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:18 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

 Im beginning to think that our players are colour blind as they only seem
 to
 be capable of passing the ball to players in green shirts.


 Sent from my iPad

 On 21/12/2011, at 7:10, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as daylight 
 the
 difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective
 hoof-ball
 whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession football,
 which
 is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary.


 Sent from my iPad

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RE: [NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Parkes Jim - Sydney-MHA
They were the Norwich fans


-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rog  Reet
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 8:45 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Norwich

Why the  were people booing after that game?



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From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Parkes Jim - Sydney-MHA
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 8:37 AM
To: 'nswolves@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

What an incredible last few minutes

- Original Message -
From: Marcus Chantry [mailto:chant...@iinet.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 08:36 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

What a great match.

Sent from my iPhone

On 21/12/2011, at 8:24 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Great delivery from milijas; great header from zubar

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 21/12/2011, at 8:22 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Or maybe the sub is better paid than the guy he replaced?


 Sent from my iPhone

 On 21/12/2011, at 8:20 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hear the commentators then: master stroke by Lambert. Is he the
manager that made the inspired substitution

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 21/12/2011, at 7:36 AM, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Good response in the second half of the first half. Let's see how many
halves there are in the second half.

 Sent from my iPad

 On 21/12/2011, at 7:32, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:

 Well that was a half of two halves! For the last 20mins we've looked
the
 goods. If only Hunt could hit the side of a barn...


 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:27 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

 Sorry, I meant every time we hoof it it goes to a Norwich player.

 Sent from my iPad

 On 21/12/2011, at 7:25, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:

 Which is it Marcus? Are they playing hoof ball or a poor passing
game?


 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:18 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

 Im beginning to think that our players are colour blind as they only
seem
 to
 be capable of passing the ball to players in green shirts.


 Sent from my iPad

 On 21/12/2011, at 7:10, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as
daylight the
 difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective
 hoof-ball
 whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession football,
 which
 is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary.


 Sent from my iPad

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Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Steven Millward
I only saw the first half.  Did we play well second half?  Do we still want
Mick out?

On 21 December 2011 08:44, Rog  Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote:

 Why the  were people booing after that game?



 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
  Of Parkes Jim - Sydney-MHA
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 8:37 AM
 To: 'nswolves@googlegroups.com'
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

 What an incredible last few minutes

 - Original Message -
 From: Marcus Chantry [mailto:chant...@iinet.net.au]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 08:36 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

 What a great match.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 21/12/2011, at 8:24 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

  Great delivery from milijas; great header from zubar
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On 21/12/2011, at 8:22 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
  Or maybe the sub is better paid than the guy he replaced?
 
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On 21/12/2011, at 8:20 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au
 wrote:
 
  Hear the commentators then: master stroke by Lambert. Is he the
 manager that made the inspired substitution
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On 21/12/2011, at 7:36 AM, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
  Good response in the second half of the first half. Let's see how many
 halves there are in the second half.
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On 21/12/2011, at 7:32, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:
 
  Well that was a half of two halves! For the last 20mins we've looked
 the
  goods. If only Hunt could hit the side of a barn...
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com]
 On
 Behalf
  Of Chantrys
  Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:27 AM
  To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
  Sorry, I meant every time we hoof it it goes to a Norwich player.
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On 21/12/2011, at 7:25, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:
 
  Which is it Marcus? Are they playing hoof ball or a poor passing
 game?
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com]
 On
  Behalf
  Of Chantrys
  Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:18 AM
  To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
  Im beginning to think that our players are colour blind as they only
 seem
  to
  be capable of passing the ball to players in green shirts.
 
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On 21/12/2011, at 7:10, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
  Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as
 daylight the
  difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective
  hoof-ball
  whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession
 football,
  which
  is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary.
 
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  --
  Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
  --
  Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
  --
  Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
  --
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RE: [NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Jeremy Tonks
Although it looks like Bolton might be hitting form at the wrong time :-(

But it only Blackburn :-)

 

 

  _  

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 8:48 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

 

I only saw the first half.  Did we play well second half?  Do we still want
Mick out?

On 21 December 2011 08:44, Rog  Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote:

Why the  were people booing after that game?




-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

Of Parkes Jim - Sydney-MHA
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 8:37 AM
To: 'nswolves@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

What an incredible last few minutes

- Original Message -
From: Marcus Chantry [mailto:chant...@iinet.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 08:36 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

What a great match.

Sent from my iPhone

On 21/12/2011, at 8:24 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Great delivery from milijas; great header from zubar

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 21/12/2011, at 8:22 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Or maybe the sub is better paid than the guy he replaced?


 Sent from my iPhone

 On 21/12/2011, at 8:20 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hear the commentators then: master stroke by Lambert. Is he the
manager that made the inspired substitution

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 21/12/2011, at 7:36 AM, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Good response in the second half of the first half. Let's see how many
halves there are in the second half.

 Sent from my iPad

 On 21/12/2011, at 7:32, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:

 Well that was a half of two halves! For the last 20mins we've looked
the
 goods. If only Hunt could hit the side of a barn...


 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:27 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

 Sorry, I meant every time we hoof it it goes to a Norwich player.

 Sent from my iPad

 On 21/12/2011, at 7:25, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:

 Which is it Marcus? Are they playing hoof ball or a poor passing
game?


 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:18 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

 Im beginning to think that our players are colour blind as they only
seem
 to
 be capable of passing the ball to players in green shirts.


 Sent from my iPad

 On 21/12/2011, at 7:10, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as
daylight the
 difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective
 hoof-ball
 whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession football,
 which
 is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary.


 Sent from my iPad

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RE: [NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Rog Reet
Why would we want Mick out as he's bugger all to do with how well we play?
 
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 8:48 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
I only saw the first half.  Did we play well second half?  Do we still want
Mick out?
On 21 December 2011 08:44, Rog  Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote:
Why the  were people booing after that game?



-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Parkes Jim - Sydney-MHA
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 8:37 AM
To: 'nswolves@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

What an incredible last few minutes

- Original Message -
From: Marcus Chantry [mailto:chant...@iinet.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 08:36 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

What a great match.

Sent from my iPhone

On 21/12/2011, at 8:24 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Great delivery from milijas; great header from zubar

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 21/12/2011, at 8:22 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Or maybe the sub is better paid than the guy he replaced?


 Sent from my iPhone

 On 21/12/2011, at 8:20 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hear the commentators then: master stroke by Lambert. Is he the
manager that made the inspired substitution

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 21/12/2011, at 7:36 AM, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Good response in the second half of the first half. Let's see how many
halves there are in the second half.

 Sent from my iPad

 On 21/12/2011, at 7:32, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:

 Well that was a half of two halves! For the last 20mins we've looked
the
 goods. If only Hunt could hit the side of a barn...


 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:27 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

 Sorry, I meant every time we hoof it it goes to a Norwich player.

 Sent from my iPad

 On 21/12/2011, at 7:25, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:

 Which is it Marcus? Are they playing hoof ball or a poor passing
game?


 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:18 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

 Im beginning to think that our players are colour blind as they only
seem
 to
 be capable of passing the ball to players in green shirts.


 Sent from my iPad

 On 21/12/2011, at 7:10, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as
daylight the
 difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective
 hoof-ball
 whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession football,
 which
 is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary.


 Sent from my iPad

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 Boo! Thick Mick Out.

 --
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.

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 Boo! Thick Mick Out.

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Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread Steven Millward
Finally, you're making some sense.

On 21 December 2011 09:07, Rog  Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote:

  Why would we want Mick out as he’s bugger all to do with how well we
 play?

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 December 2011 8:48 AM

 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

  ** **

 I only saw the first half.  Did we play well second half?  Do we still
 want Mick out?

 On 21 December 2011 08:44, Rog  Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au wrote:

 Why the  were people booing after that game?




 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf

 Of Parkes Jim - Sydney-MHA
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 8:37 AM
 To: 'nswolves@googlegroups.com'
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

 What an incredible last few minutes

 - Original Message -
 From: Marcus Chantry [mailto:chant...@iinet.net.au]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 08:36 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

 What a great match.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 21/12/2011, at 8:24 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

  Great delivery from milijas; great header from zubar
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On 21/12/2011, at 8:22 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
  Or maybe the sub is better paid than the guy he replaced?
 
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On 21/12/2011, at 8:20 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au
 wrote:
 
  Hear the commentators then: master stroke by Lambert. Is he the
 manager that made the inspired substitution
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On 21/12/2011, at 7:36 AM, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
  Good response in the second half of the first half. Let's see how many
 halves there are in the second half.
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On 21/12/2011, at 7:32, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:
 
  Well that was a half of two halves! For the last 20mins we've looked
 the
  goods. If only Hunt could hit the side of a barn...
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com]
 On
 Behalf
  Of Chantrys
  Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:27 AM
  To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
  Sorry, I meant every time we hoof it it goes to a Norwich player.
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On 21/12/2011, at 7:25, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:
 
  Which is it Marcus? Are they playing hoof ball or a poor passing
 game?
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com]
 On
  Behalf
  Of Chantrys
  Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:18 AM
  To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
  Im beginning to think that our players are colour blind as they only
 seem
  to
  be capable of passing the ball to players in green shirts.
 
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On 21/12/2011, at 7:10, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
  Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as
 daylight the
  difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective
  hoof-ball
  whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession
 football,
  which
  is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary.
 
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  --
  Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
  --
  Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
  --
  Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
  --
  Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
  --
  Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
  --
  Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
  --
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  --
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RE: [NSWolves] Norwich

2011-12-20 Thread mark worrall
Yeah, great end to end match.

Has anyone else noticed how many goals we've conceded, or nearly conceded,
from Ward not staying with his man ?


-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jeremy Tonks
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:37 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Norwich

Damn good game of football in the end. I reckon we were very very unlucky
not to win. Two really atrocious misses (Hunt and Ward?). Really enjoyed the
last 70mins of entertaining football.



-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marcus Chantry
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 8:25 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

Great delivery from milijas; great header from zubar

Sent from my iPhone

On 21/12/2011, at 8:22 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Or maybe the sub is better paid than the guy he replaced?
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 8:20 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hear the commentators then: master stroke by Lambert. Is he the manager
that made the inspired substitution
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:36 AM, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Good response in the second half of the first half. Let's see how many
halves there are in the second half. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:32, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:
 
 Well that was a half of two halves! For the last 20mins we've looked
the
 goods. If only Hunt could hit the side of a barn...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:27 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
 Sorry, I meant every time we hoof it it goes to a Norwich player. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:25, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:
 
 Which is it Marcus? Are they playing hoof ball or a poor passing game?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:18 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
 Im beginning to think that our players are colour blind as they only
seem
 to
 be capable of passing the ball to players in green shirts.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:10, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as daylight
the
 difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing ineffective
 hoof-ball
 whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession football,
 which
 is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary. 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 -- 
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
 -- 
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
 -- 
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
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 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
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 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
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RE: [NSWolves] Norwich [sec=unclassified] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-12-20 Thread Morris, Lee SGT
UNCLASSIFIED

One of the best games I've seen Wolves involved in for a long time. The
last twenty minutes were edge of your seat stuff.

At half time I was hoping Doyle would come on for Milijas, who was
having an off game, but he improved, and if one of those through balls
had worked out things could have been different.

 

-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Marcus Chantry
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 07:36
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

What a great match. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 21/12/2011, at 8:24 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Great delivery from milijas; great header from zubar
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 8:22 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au
wrote:
 
 Or maybe the sub is better paid than the guy he replaced?
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 8:20 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au
wrote:
 
 Hear the commentators then: master stroke by Lambert. Is he the 
 manager that made the inspired substitution
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:36 AM, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Good response in the second half of the first half. Let's see how
many halves there are in the second half. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:32, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:
 
 Well that was a half of two halves! For the last 20mins we've 
 looked the goods. If only Hunt could hit the side of a barn...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:27 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
 Sorry, I meant every time we hoof it it goes to a Norwich player. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:25, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au
wrote:
 
 Which is it Marcus? Are they playing hoof ball or a poor passing
game?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:18 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
 Im beginning to think that our players are colour blind as they 
 only seem
 to
 be capable of passing the ball to players in green shirts.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 7:10, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as 
 daylight the
 difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing 
 ineffective
 hoof-ball
 whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession 
 football,
 which
 is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary. 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 --
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
 --
 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
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 Boo! Thick Mick Out.
 
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RE: [NSWolves] Norwich [sec=unclassified] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-12-20 Thread Paul Crowe
Milijas needs time in the team. He will come good. Our most creative player
and hopefully one of our highest paid player's!!

Paul Crowe
Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
 
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-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Morris, Lee SGT
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 9:31 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Norwich [sec=unclassified] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

UNCLASSIFIED

One of the best games I've seen Wolves involved in for a long time. The
last twenty minutes were edge of your seat stuff.

At half time I was hoping Doyle would come on for Milijas, who was
having an off game, but he improved, and if one of those through balls
had worked out things could have been different.

 

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From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Marcus Chantry
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 07:36
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich

What a great match. 

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On 21/12/2011, at 8:24 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Great delivery from milijas; great header from zubar
 
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 On 21/12/2011, at 8:22 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au
wrote:
 
 Or maybe the sub is better paid than the guy he replaced?
 
 
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 On 21/12/2011, at 8:20 AM, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au
wrote:
 
 Hear the commentators then: master stroke by Lambert. Is he the 
 manager that made the inspired substitution
 
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 On 21/12/2011, at 7:36 AM, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Good response in the second half of the first half. Let's see how
many halves there are in the second half. 
 
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 On 21/12/2011, at 7:32, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au wrote:
 
 Well that was a half of two halves! For the last 20mins we've 
 looked the goods. If only Hunt could hit the side of a barn...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:27 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
 Sorry, I meant every time we hoof it it goes to a Norwich player. 
 
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 On 21/12/2011, at 7:25, Jeremy Tonks to...@hotkey.net.au
wrote:
 
 Which is it Marcus? Are they playing hoof ball or a poor passing
game?
 
 
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 From: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Chantrys
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 7:18 AM
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Norwich
 
 Im beginning to think that our players are colour blind as they 
 only seem
 to
 be capable of passing the ball to players in green shirts.
 
 
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 On 21/12/2011, at 7:10, Chantrys chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Ok, anyone watching the game this morning can see clearly as 
 daylight the
 difference a manager can have.  One has a team playing 
 ineffective
 hoof-ball
 whilst the other has his team playing percentage possession 
 football,
 which
 is making the hoof-ball team look very, very ordinary. 
 
 
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