Re: [NTG-context] symbols in luatex?

2008-01-04 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:20:45 -0700, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
>> BTW, fea files and font features are a bit flaky these days, in the
>> latest two versions, none of my fea gsub stuff works... But it's
>> difficult for me to say whether it is the current version of luaTeX or
>> of ConTeXt which is at fault. Will try to give more useful information
>> when I have a bit more time.
>
> best take the beta (some reported bugs fixed)

Does that include the one I reported? -)

> fea is flaky anyway ... currently fea *replaces* existing features;

FL (and FF?) can export fea files, so one can (in principle) add features  
to the original fea file for further features etc.

> future versions of luatex will do a proper merge but this has a low  
> priority

not too low I hope ;-) it's a great feature (no pun intended)!

Best wishes
Idris

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Re: [NTG-context] symbols in luatex?

2008-01-04 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

> BTW, fea files and font features are a bit flaky these days, in the  
> latest two versions, none of my fea gsub stuff works... But it's  
> difficult for me to say whether it is the current version of luaTeX or  
> of ConTeXt which is at fault. Will try to give more useful information  
> when I have a bit more time.

best take the beta (some reported bugs fixed)

fea is flaky anyway ... currently fea *replaces* existing features; 
future versions of luatex will do a proper merge but this has a low priority

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Re: [NTG-context] symbols in luatex?

2008-01-04 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Jan 4, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> ah so you know the number ...
>
> \getglyph{name:TeXGyreHeros-Regular}{\char"2329}
>
> should also work then
>

Yes, that works too! Thanks, maybe even easier!

BTW, fea files and font features are a bit flaky these days, in the  
latest two versions, none of my fea gsub stuff works... But it's  
difficult for me to say whether it is the current version of luaTeX or  
of ConTeXt which is at fault. Will try to give more useful information  
when I have a bit more time.

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] symbols in luatex?

2008-01-04 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

> {\bgroup\definedfont[name:TeXGyreHeros-Regular]\char"2329\egroup}

ah so you know the number ...

\getglyph{name:TeXGyreHeros-Regular}{\char"2329}

should also work then


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Re: [NTG-context] symbols in luatex?

2008-01-04 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Jan 4, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> The following should work.
>
> % engine=luatex
>
> \definecharacter anglebracketleft  \char"2329
> \definecharacter anglebracketright \char"232A
>
> \starttext
>
> text \anglebracketleft text\anglebracketright\ text
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang

On Jan 4, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> \definedfont[name:TeXGyreHeros-Regular] \otfchar{uni0323} % 803 ?

Hans, Wolfgang,

thanks a lot! Wolfgang's approach works immediately. \otfchar doesn't  
seem to work, but I could combine your suggestion with Wolfgang's and  
now have

{\bgroup\definedfont[name:TeXGyreHeros-Regular]\char"2329\egroup}

Cool! Without fiddling with map files and encodings, I can take glyphs  
from whatever OTF font I want.

Thanks so much!

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] symbols in luatex?

2008-01-04 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

> 
> I tried several numbers, and get some symbols from TeXGyreHeros, but I  
> haven't yet found out how luaTeX interprets the \char numbers... OTOH,  
> this is a workaround:

mkiv is unicode so \char point to a unicode point

> doesn't use any of those, so I'm saved for today, but will be back in  
> a few weeks when I need the other stuff as well...

\definedfont[name:TeXGyreHeros-Regular] \otfchar{uni0323} % 803 ?


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Re: [NTG-context] non-typographic apostrophe

2008-01-04 Thread Santy, Michael
Thanks, Thomas.  That worked like a champ.

Cheers,
Mike


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On Jan 4, 2008, at 5:52 PM, Santy, Michael wrote:

> How do I include a non-typographic apostrophe in ConTeXt?  If I type  
> ' (U+0027), it is automatically converted to a typographic  
> (directional) apostrophe.

You could try \quotesingle (also depends on the font).

HTH

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] symbols in luatex?

2008-01-04 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 18:03:28 +0100
"Thomas A. Schmitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> On Jan 4, 2008, at 5:15 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> > doesn't \char work?
>
> Depends... fontforge tells me what I'm looking for is, e.g., character
> 803 in TeXGyreHeros-Regular, so I tried this:
>
> \starttypescript[serif][greeksymbols][name]
> \definefontsynonym [Serif] [name:TeXGyreHeros-Regular]
> [features=default]
> \stoptypescript
> \starttypescript[GreekSymbols]
> \definetypeface [GreekSymbols] [rm] [serif] [greeksymbols] [default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \usetypescript[GreekSymbols]
>
> \define{\anglebracketleft}%
> {\bgroup\switchtobodyfont[GreekSymbols]\char803\egroup}
>
> I tried several numbers, and get some symbols from TeXGyreHeros, but I
> haven't yet found out how luaTeX interprets the \char numbers... OTOH,
> this is a workaround:

It interprets the numbers in the same way as TeX.

> \define{\anglebracketleft}%
> {\bgroup\switchtobodyfont[GreekSymbols]〈\egroup}

What you're looking for is "ANGLE BRACKET, RIGHT-POINTING".

> but will obviously only work for symbols that are defined in Unicode,
> so nothing in the "private" Unicode area. My presentation next week
> doesn't use any of those, so I'm saved for today, but will be back in
> a few weeks when I need the other stuff as well...

The following should work.

% engine=luatex

\definecharacter anglebracketleft  \char"2329
\definecharacter anglebracketright \char"232A

\starttext

text \anglebracketleft text\anglebracketright\ text

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] register

2008-01-04 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi,

for fine-tuning the TOC I use e.g. ...

\writebetweenlist [section] {\def\TOCstyle{\switchtobodyfont[9pt] 
\setupinterlinespace[line=11.15pt]}}

... for adjusting the vertical space and thus the page breaks.


Is is possible to do something similar to the register?

Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] non-typographic apostrophe

2008-01-04 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Jan 4, 2008, at 5:52 PM, Santy, Michael wrote:

> How do I include a non-typographic apostrophe in ConTeXt?  If I type  
> ' (U+0027), it is automatically converted to a typographic  
> (directional) apostrophe.

You could try \quotesingle (also depends on the font).

HTH

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] symbols in luatex?

2008-01-04 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Jan 4, 2008, at 5:15 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> doesn't \char work?
>

Depends... fontforge tells me what I'm looking for is, e.g., character  
803 in TeXGyreHeros-Regular, so I tried this:

\starttypescript[serif][greeksymbols][name]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [name:TeXGyreHeros-Regular]  
[features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[GreekSymbols]
\definetypeface [GreekSymbols] [rm] [serif] [greeksymbols] [default]
\stoptypescript

\usetypescript[GreekSymbols]

\define{\anglebracketleft}%
{\bgroup\switchtobodyfont[GreekSymbols]\char803\egroup}

I tried several numbers, and get some symbols from TeXGyreHeros, but I  
haven't yet found out how luaTeX interprets the \char numbers... OTOH,  
this is a workaround:

\define{\anglebracketleft}%
{\bgroup\switchtobodyfont[GreekSymbols]〈\egroup}

but will obviously only work for symbols that are defined in Unicode,  
so nothing in the "private" Unicode area. My presentation next week  
doesn't use any of those, so I'm saved for today, but will be back in  
a few weeks when I need the other stuff as well...

Thanks

Thomas


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[NTG-context] non-typographic apostrophe

2008-01-04 Thread Santy, Michael

How do I include a non-typographic apostrophe in ConTeXt?  If I type ' 
(U+0027), it is automatically converted to a typographic (directional) 
apostrophe.

Cheers,
Mike
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Re: [NTG-context] symbols in luatex?

2008-01-04 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On Jan 2, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> 
>> On Jan 2, 2008, at 12:42 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>> \startencoding[default]
>>>
>>> probably still works (may change in favor of virtual fonts)
>> Thanks Hans, but nope, doesn't work. The font is found and used (I get
>> glyphs for "normal" characters such as numbers), but the special
>> characters just disappear from the output.
>>
>> Thomas
> 
> Hmm, this is something I need for a presentation next week, so can I  
> ask again: how can I address arbitrary symbols in luaTeX? There has to  
> be some way, right? I'm also quite willing to look into the luaTeX way  
> of constructing a virtual font (I need some metrical and some math  
> symbols which I want to take from a different font), but I'm not sure  
> if there's any example out there how to do this.

doesn't \char work?



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Re: [NTG-context] symbols in luatex?

2008-01-04 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Jan 2, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

>
> On Jan 2, 2008, at 12:42 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> \startencoding[default]
>>
>> probably still works (may change in favor of virtual fonts)
>
> Thanks Hans, but nope, doesn't work. The font is found and used (I get
> glyphs for "normal" characters such as numbers), but the special
> characters just disappear from the output.
>
> Thomas

Hmm, this is something I need for a presentation next week, so can I  
ask again: how can I address arbitrary symbols in luaTeX? There has to  
be some way, right? I'm also quite willing to look into the luaTeX way  
of constructing a virtual font (I need some metrical and some math  
symbols which I want to take from a different font), but I'm not sure  
if there's any example out there how to do this.

Thanks!

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] to obtain glyphs in marvosym.pfb

2008-01-04 Thread Yvon Henel
Le vendredi 4 janvier 2008, vous avez écrit :
> On Jan 4, 2008 12:25 PM, Yvon Henel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You need to provide tha tfm file name, not pfb, 
I thought so (for TeX was complaining about a missing tfm) but failed to see 
how exactly. Thanks awfully.
> but there already 
> exists a module which does that.
>
> \usesymbols[mvs]
> \setupsymbolset[martinvogel 2]
> \symbol[Telephone]
>
> See and the corrosponding source file (symb-mvs.tex)
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Symbols/mvs

Thanks a lot. There is some discrepancies between the said module and my 
TeXlive (2007) distribution but I've succeeded in using "it".
For those who could be interrested, I've done thus:
copy symb-mvs.tex to symb-mvs2.tex in my texmf-local/tex/context
inside this copy
change 
\loadmapfile[original-base.map] into 
\loadmapfile[marvosym.map]
and
change 
\definefontsynonym [MartinVogel] [fmvr8x] into 
\definefontsynonym [MartinVogel] [umvs]

don't forget to texhash
and it works!

Thanks a lot.

-- 
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[NTG-context] \useattachment: Embedding files in PDFs

2008-01-04 Thread Tobias Burnus
Hi all,

I can use \useattachment to embed/attach files in a PDF file. I can use:

\useattachment[whatever][title][newname][test.tex]
\attachment[whatever]

This creates an attachment with the description "title" and the name
"test.tex". However, how can I set the author/subject? (Shown in tool
tip of the annotation symbol; it is shown above the description;
actually subject is enough for me.)

Additionally, I miss the file size and possibly the modification date
for the attachments; they are often handy to have.

Is is possible to associate an embedded file stream with the document
itself without creating an annotation symbol as with \attachment in
ConTeXt? (The PDF spec allows this; cf. e.g. 3.10.3 in the PDF spec and
http://www.microtype.com/showcase/EmbedFiles.pdf for an example PDF file.)

Tobias
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Re: [NTG-context] to obtain glyphs in marvosym.pfb

2008-01-04 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Jan 4, 2008 12:25 PM, Yvon Henel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello all
>
> 
> I begin to be able to use utopia-expert fonts thanks to the fourier tricks
> located in the different type-*.enc.
> My previous work with TeXfont has not been entirely useless for it has helped
> me to understand what I needed to use the available material which gives
> access to utopia-expert.
>
> I would seize the opportunity to thank all the people who made available  the
> howtos on ConTeXt, the wiki and so on. And also those who answered my first
> questions on this list, even if I choose not to follow all their
> recommendations ;-) To say the truth I've already devoted the last three days
> in learning how to use ConTeXt and cannot envisage to swap to LuaTeX before
> some time.
> 
>
> But alas I've got a new problem which I state hereafter:
>
> I've tried this:
> \definesymbol [Telefon][\getglyph{umvs}{\char84}]
> because umvs.tfm is in the marvosym directory
> but it doesn't work.
> I've also tried marvosym (because there is a marvosym.pfb) instead of umvs but
> to no avail.

You need to provide tha tfm file name, not pfb, but there already
exists a module which does that.

\usesymbols[mvs]
\setupsymbolset[martinvogel 2]
\symbol[Telephone]

See and the corrosponding source file (symb-mvs.tex)
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Symbols/mvs

Mojca
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[NTG-context] to obtain glyphs in marvosym.pfb

2008-01-04 Thread Yvon Henel
hello all


I begin to be able to use utopia-expert fonts thanks to the fourier tricks 
located in the different type-*.enc.
My previous work with TeXfont has not been entirely useless for it has helped 
me to understand what I needed to use the available material which gives 
access to utopia-expert.

I would seize the opportunity to thank all the people who made available  the 
howtos on ConTeXt, the wiki and so on. And also those who answered my first 
questions on this list, even if I choose not to follow all their 
recommendations ;-) To say the truth I've already devoted the last three days 
in learning how to use ConTeXt and cannot envisage to swap to LuaTeX before 
some time.


But alas I've got a new problem which I state hereafter:

I've tried this:
\definesymbol [Telefon][\getglyph{umvs}{\char84}]
because umvs.tfm is in the marvosym directory
but it doesn't work.
I've also tried marvosym (because there is a marvosym.pfb) instead of umvs but 
to no avail.

I've succeeded nonetheless in obtaining the glyphs of fourier-orns with 
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Ornements] [fourier-orns] [encoding=ec]
\definesymbol [lefthand][\getglyph{Fourier-Ornements}{\char116}]

Is it because I need to load a map or something?

Any hint would be greatly appreciated

Many thanks to all

-- 
Yvon Henel


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Re: [NTG-context] installing expert font, pb with texfont

2008-01-04 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Jan 3, 2008 3:41 PM, Yvon Henel wrote:
> hello all
>
> I try to follow "My Way" of April 2005 "Installing Expert Fonts" by Idris
> Samawi Hamid, which is really clear, to install my own version of
> utopia-expert.
>
> I am now at the TeXfont stage and I've got two strange errors
> 1/ TeXfont complain about a missing texteuro
> 2/ hungarumlaut is in fact a right curly brace "}" which would give curious
> results in hungarian :)
>
> I've followed the guide step by step and the only difference I can spot is
> that the author refers to a "texnansi-lm.enc" which does not exist in my
> TeXlive 2007 and that I have used a "lm-texnansi.enc" as base file.
>
> Any hint would be greatly appreciated.

My hint would be to use LuaTeX or XeTeX instead of pdfTeX via TeXFont
if you can afford that, at least that's more future-oriented, although
the high-level interface might not be 100% stable yet. texfont has
some problems and fixing them is not on the high priority list (if you
spot a bug in XeTeX or LuaTeX, it will be fixed in the shortest
possible time).

The procedure with TeXFont assumes some certain names of the glyphs.
If glyphs in Utopia have other names (check the name of euro), you
need to modify that map file and supply your own file instead of
lm-texnansi.enc.

Mojca
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