Re: [NTG-context] Finish register sorting (was LuaTeX problems)

2008-07-03 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Tomi Lindberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/7/3, Wolfgang Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>  I wrote a sorter for finish but we should test it before it can be included.
>
> I'll give it a try later. And just by glancing there's an ordering
> error - 'å' should be before 'ä'. I assume I just add the luacode
> section to my environment, switch locations of 'å' and 'ä' and that's
> it?

Yes, yes and yes.

You have to switch "ä" and "å" but I corrected my version.

Wolfgang


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Re: [NTG-context] modules for TeX Live 2008

2008-07-03 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>
> I updated the documentation of t-mathsets.

Thanks.

> Please use the currently uploaded module.

That's intended anyway.

> BTW, how does syncronization with CTAN work.

Doesn't. Some people from CTAN check manually from time to time.

> I never uploaded my module to
> CTAN, but it is available on CTAN (I assume, because it was also included
> in texlive 2007). When updating modules on garden, should I also update
> them on CTAN,

No, we'll try to sort that out now.

> or does CTAN syncronization happens automatically, or does
> it happen once every year (with texlive)?

It doesn't "happen" yet, but I hope that we & they will set it now.

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Re: [NTG-context] trouble starting context

2008-07-03 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Jesse Alama wrote:

> Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Jesse Alama wrote:
>>> Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 I have:

 LUAINPUTS=.;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic}//:$TEXMF/scripts/context/lua
 TEXMFSCRIPTS=.;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic,}//;$TEXMF/scripts/context//

 and I strongly suspect both are needed. After adjusting the value(s),
 you will have to rerun luatools --generate.
>>>
>>> I modified texmf.cnf to give these variables those values, but I still
>>> get the same error, even after luatools --generate.  Further
>>> suggestions?
>>
>> Maybe
>>
>>$ env MPX_INPUT_TRACE=3 context ...
>>
>> will give some hint about what mtxrun is doing.
>
> $ MTX_INPUT_TRACE=3 context
> MtxRun | ! using suffix based filetype: lua
> MtxRun | ? blobpath asked: context.lua
> MtxRun | ? filename: context.lua
> MtxRun | - readable: ./context.lua
> MtxRun | ! using suffix based filetype: lua
> MtxRun | ? blobpath asked: mtx-context.lua
> MtxRun | ? filename: mtx-context.lua
> MtxRun | - readable: ./mtx-context.lua
> MtxRun | ! using suffix based filetype: lua
> MtxRun | ? blobpath asked: mtx-contexts.lua
> MtxRun | ? filename: mtx-contexts.lua
> MtxRun | - readable: ./mtx-contexts.lua
> MtxRun | ! remembered: mtx-context.lua
> MtxRun | unknown script: context
>
> It seems that mtxrun has no idea where to look for mtx-context.lua.  Any
> suggestions?

What does  MPX_INPUT_TRACE=3 luatools --generate say?

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] trouble starting context

2008-07-03 Thread Jesse Alama
Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Jesse Alama wrote:
>> Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
>>> I have:
>>>
>>> LUAINPUTS=.;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic}//:$TEXMF/scripts/context/lua
>>> TEXMFSCRIPTS=.;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic,}//;$TEXMF/scripts/context//
>>>
>>> and I strongly suspect both are needed. After adjusting the value(s),
>>> you will have to rerun luatools --generate.
>> 
>> I modified texmf.cnf to give these variables those values, but I still
>> get the same error, even after luatools --generate.  Further
>> suggestions?
>
> Maybe
>
>$ env MPX_INPUT_TRACE=3 context ...
>
> will give some hint about what mtxrun is doing.

$ MTX_INPUT_TRACE=3 context
MtxRun | ! using suffix based filetype: lua
MtxRun | ? blobpath asked: context.lua
MtxRun | ? filename: context.lua
MtxRun | - readable: ./context.lua
MtxRun | ! using suffix based filetype: lua
MtxRun | ? blobpath asked: mtx-context.lua
MtxRun | ? filename: mtx-context.lua
MtxRun | - readable: ./mtx-context.lua
MtxRun | ! using suffix based filetype: lua
MtxRun | ? blobpath asked: mtx-contexts.lua
MtxRun | ? filename: mtx-contexts.lua
MtxRun | - readable: ./mtx-contexts.lua
MtxRun | ! remembered: mtx-context.lua
MtxRun | unknown script: context

It seems that mtxrun has no idea where to look for mtx-context.lua.  Any
suggestions?

Thanks,

Jesse

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Re: [NTG-context] modules for TeX Live 2008

2008-07-03 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Jesse Alama wrote:

> "Mojca Miklavec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Which modules are needed for TeX Live 2008?
>>
>> Here's some list (that Hans sent me some time ago)

I updated the documentation of t-mathsets. Please use the currently 
uploaded module.

BTW, how does syncronization with CTAN work. I never uploaded my module to 
CTAN, but it is available on CTAN (I assume, because it was also included 
in texlive 2007). When updating modules on garden, should I also update 
them on CTAN, or does CTAN syncronization happens automatically, or does 
it happen once every year (with texlive)?

>>  http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/modules/
>> (t-tikz should not be included, and )
>
> Why not tikz?

The tikz module is just a repackaging of tikz files in TDS. tikz will be 
included in texlive in the correct directory structure, so we do not need 
to have duplicates.

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Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph on the bottom of a page

2008-07-03 Thread Aditya Mahajan

Here is one more :)

\starttext

\null\vfill
\input knuth

\stoptext


On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Otared Kavian wrote:


How about this:

\starttext

\phantom{nothing}

\vfill
\input knuth

\stoptext

Best regards: OK

On 3 juil. 08, at 21:37, Horacio Suarez wrote:


Hello:

this works in linux but doesn´t in windows XP,  both latests context 
versions.



\starttext

algún texto

\page
~

\vfill

cualquier texto

\stoptext


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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:29:18 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph on the bottom of a page

On Thu, Jul 03 2008, Horacio Suarez wrote:
>
> Maybe it is not elegant but I use vfill with a ~ before.

Strange, this doesn't work here:
\starttext
~\vfill
\input tufte
\stoptext

Buf I've found 2 other methods. The results are slightly different:

\starttext
\framed[offset=0pt, frame=off, align=low, height=\textheight,
width=\textwidth]{\input tufte
}
\page
% text is slightly higher that on first page, and last linebreak is
% different, I don't know why...
\hskip0pt\vfill
\input tufte
\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] modules for TeX Live 2008

2008-07-03 Thread Jesse Alama
"Mojca Miklavec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Which modules are needed for TeX Live 2008?
>
> Here's some list (that Hans sent me some time ago):
>  http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/modules/
> (t-tikz should not be included, and )

Why not tikz?

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[NTG-context] Generating a list of items

2008-07-03 Thread David
Hi all

I'm teaching some classes and want to make a template for lesson 
planning. One of the things that I'd like to be able to include, if it 
works easily, is an automatically-created list of the materials I need 
to remember to bring. I expect this means I would define something like 
\Materials , and then while typing the main text of my plan be able to 
type \Materials{Photographs} or \Materials{Sound Recording} and then 
have ConTeXt generate

"Materials: 1. Photographs  2. Sound Recording"

near the top of the page.

I've tried \placeregister, but it seems to insist on printing page 
numbers and alphabetical headings. I just want a numbered list of 
items. Can I tweak the \register commands to do this, or perhaps is 
there something else I should try?

Thanks
David
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[NTG-context] modules for TeX Live 2008

2008-07-03 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hello,

Which modules are needed for TeX Live 2008?

Here's some list (that Hans sent me some time ago):
 http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/modules/
(t-tikz should not be included, and )

while all the modules are listed here:
http://modules.contextgarden.net/

I guess that at least taspresentation and t-letter should be added to
the list? Maybe rsteps as well?

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph on the bottom of a page

2008-07-03 Thread Horacio Suarez

hello

I was wrong, my linux context version is 2008.5.21 and ~ \vfill works but the 
windows versions is the same that yours (Peter) and does not work.

I been using this since a long time ago and when it fails in windows, I simply 
try in linux because sometimes linux and windows context versions doesn't 
behave identically.

Sometime ago I post a question about a file that aborts in linux but compile 
fine in windows, I never knew why.

But now is the context version. The question is: Should it work or it shouldn't.

May be a enconding related issue?

Saludos, Horacio



> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:07:56 +0200
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph on the bottom of a page
> 
> On Thu, Jul 03 2008, Horacio Suarez wrote:
> > 
> > this works in linux but doesn´t in windows XP,  both latests context 
> > versions.
> >  
> > [...]
> > ~
> >  
> > \vfill
> >  
> > cualquier texto
> 
> Strange. Here: Linux + ConTeXt 2008.06.28
> Cheers, Peter
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[NTG-context] "IgnoreMarks" flag is ignored in contextual chaining substitution OpenType tables"

2008-07-03 Thread Khaled Hosny
'calt' tables aren't applied if with combining marks, though
IgnoreMarks flag is set.

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% engine=luatex
\ctxlua { fonts.color.trace = true }

\definefontfeature
  [arab]
  [mode=node,language=dflt,script=arab,
   init=yes,medi=yes,fina=yes,isol=yes,
   liga=yes,dlig=yes,rlig=yes,clig=yes,
   mark=yes,mkmk=yes,calt=yes,
   kern=yes,curs=yes]

\font\Arabic = arabtype*arab   at 100pt

\starttext

\startTEXpage \relax \setupcolors[state=start]%
\textdir TRT\pardir TRT\Arabic
\ تثت تَثْتَ \crlf
\stopTEXpage

\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph on the bottom of a page

2008-07-03 Thread Otared Kavian

How about this:

\starttext

\phantom{nothing}

\vfill
\input knuth

\stoptext

Best regards: OK

On 3 juil. 08, at 21:37, Horacio Suarez wrote:


Hello:

this works in linux but doesn´t in windows XP,  both latests context  
versions.



\starttext

algún texto

\page
~

\vfill

cualquier texto

\stoptext


Horacio Suarez
Editorial Antropofagia
www.eantropofagia.com.ar

> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:29:18 +0200
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph on the bottom of a page
>
> On Thu, Jul 03 2008, Horacio Suarez wrote:
> >
> > Maybe it is not elegant but I use vfill with a ~ before.
>
> Strange, this doesn't work here:
> \starttext
> ~\vfill
> \input tufte
> \stoptext
>
> Buf I've found 2 other methods. The results are slightly different:
>
> \starttext
> \framed[offset=0pt, frame=off, align=low, height=\textheight,
> width=\textwidth]{\input tufte
> }
> \page
> % text is slightly higher that on first page, and last linebreak is
> % different, I don't know why...
> \hskip0pt\vfill
> \input tufte
> \stoptext
>
>
> Cheers, Peter
>
> --
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>  
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Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph on the bottom of a page

2008-07-03 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Jul 03 2008, Horacio Suarez wrote:
> 
> this works in linux but doesn´t in windows XP,  both latests context versions.
>  
> [...]
> ~
>  
> \vfill
>  
> cualquier texto

Strange. Here: Linux + ConTeXt 2008.06.28
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Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph on the bottom of a page

2008-07-03 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Jul 03 2008, Horacio Suarez wrote:
> 
> Maybe it is not elegant but I use vfill with a ~ before.

Strange, this doesn't work here:
\starttext
~\vfill
\input tufte
\stoptext

Buf I've found 2 other methods. The results are slightly different:

\starttext
\framed[offset=0pt, frame=off, align=low, height=\textheight,
  width=\textwidth]{\input tufte
}
\page
% text is slightly higher that on first page, and last linebreak is
% different, I don't know why...
\hskip0pt\vfill
\input tufte
\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph on the bottom of a page

2008-07-03 Thread Horacio Suarez

Hello:
 
this works in linux but doesn´t in windows XP,  both latests context versions.
 
 
\starttext
 
algún texto
 
\page
~
 
\vfill
 
cualquier texto
 
\stoptextHoracio SuarezEditorial 
Antropofagiawww.eantropofagia.com.ar> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:29:18 +0200> 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ntg-context@ntg.nl> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] 
Paragraph on the bottom of a page> > On Thu, Jul 03 2008, Horacio Suarez 
wrote:> > > > Maybe it is not elegant but I use vfill with a ~ before.> > 
Strange, this doesn't work here:> \starttext> ~\vfill> \input tufte> \stoptext> 
> Buf I've found 2 other methods. The results are slightly different:> > 
\starttext> \framed[offset=0pt, frame=off, align=low, height=\textheight,> 
width=\textwidth]{\input tufte> }> \page> % text is slightly higher that on 
first page, and last linebreak is> % different, I don't know why...> 
\hskip0pt\vfill> \input tufte> \stoptext> > > Cheers, Peter> > -- > 
http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/> > 
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Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph on the bottom of a page

2008-07-03 Thread 302302
Unfortunately I'm in a hurry,I have no time for elegance ... :) And your 
solution works perfectely, it is exactly what I need. So thanks a lot for it.

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>Maybe it is not elegant but I use vfill with a ~ before.
>
>
>
>
>Horacio Suarez
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>> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:29:45 +0200
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
>> Subject: [NTG-context] Paragraph on the bottom of a page
>> 
>> Hi,
>> how can I put a paragraph (or whatever else) on the bottom of a page? I
mean I want to have a top of the page empty and the text should start
somewhere below. If I try to use \vfill it works just in case I have some
text in the top. 
>> 
>> Please can you help me?
>> Thanks Czenek
>> 
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Re: [NTG-context] Finish register sorting (was LuaTeX problems)

2008-07-03 Thread Tomi Lindberg
2008/7/3, Wolfgang Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  I wrote a sorter for finish but we should test it before it can be included.

I'll give it a try later. And just by glancing there's an ordering
error - 'å' should be before 'ä'. I assume I just add the luacode
section to my environment, switch locations of 'å' and 'ä' and that's
it?

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Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph on the bottom of a page

2008-07-03 Thread Horacio Suarez

Maybe it is not elegant but I use vfill with a ~ before.




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> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:29:45 +0200
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
> Subject: [NTG-context] Paragraph on the bottom of a page
> 
> Hi,
> how can I put a paragraph (or whatever else) on the bottom of a page? I mean 
> I want to have a top of the page empty and the text should start somewhere 
> below. If I try to use \vfill it works just in case I have some text in the 
> top. 
> 
> Please can you help me?
> Thanks Czenek
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[NTG-context] Paragraph on the bottom of a page

2008-07-03 Thread 302302
Hi,
how can I put a paragraph (or whatever else) on the bottom of a page? I mean I 
want to have a top of the page empty and the text should start somewhere below. 
If I try to use \vfill it works just in case I have some text in the top. 

Please can you help me?
Thanks Czenek

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Re: [NTG-context] Couple of questions

2008-07-03 Thread Hans Hagen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 1.  CONTEXT, an excursion
>   general/manuals/mp-cb-en.pdfgeneral/manuals/ms-cb-en.pdf
> 
>   The Manual
>   general/manuals/cont-enp.pdfgeneral/manuals/cont-eni.pdf
>   
>   It's in the details
>   general/manuals/details.pdf
> 
> 
>   i) when are the manuals going to be updated?
>  ii) details.pdf looks very interesting, i assume it's not finished 
> right? any status info?

later this year taco and i will have a go at it; some things are simpler 
nwo (esp fonts, since we have gyre and latin modern)

> 2.  CONTEXT MkII & MkIV
>   general/manuals/mk.pdf
> 
>  i've slightly confused as to what LuaTeX is, could someone please 
> explain it. from what i've gathered it seems like it supports the use of 
> OpenType fonts natively like XeTex and it's going to be merged into pdfTeX?

luatex is the follow up on pdftex and eventually permits us to go way 
beyond what now can be done

> 3.  Fonts
>   general/manuals/mfonts.pdf and general/manuals/mtexfont.pdf
> 
>  Is is worth reading these manual since LuaTeX---as i've 
> understood---is going to support them natively and i'm never going to have 
> to install fonts again?

less important now, also because we have the tex gyre fonts (unless you 
use commercial fonts in combination with pdftex)

> 4.  Typographic Programming
>   general/manuals/style.pdf
> 
>  Any idea when the final release of this document is due, i'd like 
> to make a print out.
no time now, but at some point i'll pick up that thread

> 5. Is there a book on ConTeXt, that is available for purchase from 
> somewhere like amazon. if not does anyone know of a good (and cheap) 
> printshop in London? I'd like to print out the manuals.

no book (yet)

> 6. I forgot to ask, is there anything written about bibliography support? 
> preferably through BibTeX.

the m-bibtex module

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[NTG-context] Couple of questions

2008-07-03 Thread abbg770
Hi,

Firstly this is my first post :) (and it's going to be long), i've been 
using context for about a week or two and it's wonderful i like 
particularly like the approach of having everything built into the core. 
Just for reference i'm running fedora 9 64bit with texlive and i'm also new 
to TeX meaning that i've never bothered to study LaTeX thoroughly (as i was 
mainly concerned about just getting my content straight) and redefining 
macros was highly annoying, but things have changed now.

Anyhow enough ranting i've got a few questions to ask.

1.  CONTEXT, an excursion
general/manuals/mp-cb-en.pdfgeneral/manuals/ms-cb-en.pdf

The Manual
general/manuals/cont-enp.pdfgeneral/manuals/cont-eni.pdf

It's in the details
general/manuals/details.pdf


i) when are the manuals going to be updated?
 ii) details.pdf looks very interesting, i assume it's not finished 
right? any status info?

2.  CONTEXT MkII & MkIV
general/manuals/mk.pdf

 i've slightly confused as to what LuaTeX is, could someone please 
explain it. from what i've gathered it seems like it supports the use of 
OpenType fonts natively like XeTex and it's going to be merged into pdfTeX?

3.  Fonts
general/manuals/mfonts.pdf and general/manuals/mtexfont.pdf

 Is is worth reading these manual since LuaTeX---as i've 
understood---is going to support them natively and i'm never going to have 
to install fonts again?

4.  Typographic Programming
general/manuals/style.pdf

 Any idea when the final release of this document is due, i'd like 
to make a print out.

5. Is there a book on ConTeXt, that is available for purchase from 
somewhere like amazon. if not does anyone know of a good (and cheap) 
printshop in London? I'd like to print out the manuals.

6. I forgot to ask, is there anything written about bibliography support? 
preferably through BibTeX.

Thanks alot and great work


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Re: [NTG-context] Letter backaddress

2008-07-03 Thread Oliver Buerschaper
>> Have you tried what will happen with a enabled backaddress and
>> no value for backaddress, fromname and fromaddress are shown
>> as backaddress but I don't rely on this feature and change it to
>> waht you suggested.
>
>
> I've just tried this quickly and this seems even better … then what
> about removing the option "backaddress=yes" from "\setupletterstyle"
> and provide a key "auto" for "backaddress" in "\setupletter"? Thus:
>
> 1. No backaddress line
>
> \setupletter  
>   [fromname={Arthur Thor},
>fromaddress={Hidden Street 2\\57895 Mysterytown}]
>
> 2. backaddress line generated from sender information
>
> \setupletter  
>   [fromname={Arthur Thor},
>fromaddress={Hidden Street 2\\57895 Mysterytown},
>backaddress=auto]
>
> 3. Custom backaddress
>
> \setupletter  
>   [fromname={Arthur Thor},
>fromaddress={Hidden Street 2\\57895 Mysterytown},
>backaddress={Thor Inc., Mystery Street 5, 59875 Hidden Town}]

In this case there would be no need for "name=yes" etc.

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Re: [NTG-context] Letter backaddress

2008-07-03 Thread Oliver Buerschaper
> I could support name=yes and alike but I can't drop the
> \setupletter[list=...] because you need it to define your own  
> reference
> line with personalized elements, e.g. your working in a company
> a put a sign for the letter there plus the number of the office etc.

I'm sorry, didn't think of that. It makes sense, of course.


>> Another possibility would be removing the "backaddress=yes" switch
>> completely. Then if backaddress data is supplied it's printed along
>> with the line below and if not, well, then leave out the separator  
>> line.
>>
>> What do you think?
>
> Have you tried what will happen with a enabled backaddress and
> no value for backaddress, fromname and fromaddress are shown
> as backaddress but I don't rely on this feature and change it to
> waht you suggested.


I've just tried this quickly and this seems even better … then what  
about removing the option "backaddress=yes" from "\setupletterstyle"  
and provide a key "auto" for "backaddress" in "\setupletter"? Thus:

1. No backaddress line

\setupletter
[fromname={Arthur Thor},
 fromaddress={Hidden Street 2\\57895 Mysterytown}]

2. backaddress line generated from sender information

\setupletter
[fromname={Arthur Thor},
 fromaddress={Hidden Street 2\\57895 Mysterytown},
 backaddress=auto]

3. Custom backaddress

\setupletter
[fromname={Arthur Thor},
 fromaddress={Hidden Street 2\\57895 Mysterytown},
 backaddress={Thor Inc., Mystery Street 5, 59875 Hidden Town}]

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt meeting: Proposal for session

2008-07-03 Thread olivier Turlier
Matija Šuklje wrote:

> Dne ponedeljek 16. junija 2008 je Aditya Mahajan napisal(a):
> 
>> 1. Do you think that such a talk will be useful and fun?
> 
> I think it would be nice to see all the editors and how well they
> integrate ConTeXt. Such a presentation might also bring up new ideas on
> how to make it work even better in some editors :]
> 
>> 2. Can you give a short talk about your editor in this session. If so,
>> please inform me which editor you use. I will try to avoid repetitions,
>> so that only one person speaks about one editor (unless the setup of the
>> two is drastically different).
> 
> If I come, I can have a small presentation on how to "ConTeXtify" Kate and
> Kile.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Matija
> 
Hi Matija,
If I'm almost sure not to come to Context meeting, I'm using Kile for
current editing task eveyday : your howto on contexifying Kile interest me
a lot. If you haven't prepared a presentation yet, I can bear to read a
simple .txt file showing each steps. Thanks in advance.
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Re: [NTG-context] Include SVG pictures with ConTeXt

2008-07-03 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 09:46:09PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> > TeXWorld wrote:
> >> TeXWorld a écrit :
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I wonder if it is possible to include SVG picture directly in ConTeXt 
> >>> without conversion.
> >>> Thank you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jack
> >>>   
> >> No answer.  Does it mean that it's not possible ?
> > 
> > Not that I know of, but I was hoping someone else did.
> 
> \usemodule[res-08] \setups[rl:manipulate]
> 
> \setupexternalfigures[location=local,directory=.,conversion=pdf] % 
> lowres,prefix=lowres/]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \externalfigure[svg/ausmap.svg][frame=on]
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> it assumes inkscape being present
> 
This doesn't work with luatex. It gives me some errors, see the log file.

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(svg.tex

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Re: [NTG-context] Letter backaddress

2008-07-03 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Oliver Buerschaper
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> \unprotect
>>>
>>> \startsetups[letter:backaddress]
>>> \def\\{\lettervalue{\c!backaddress\c!separator}}
>>> \doifelselettervalue\v!backaddress
>>> {\lettervalue\v!backaddress}
>>> {\lettervalue\c!fromname
>>> \doiflettervalue\c!fromaddress\\
>>> \lettervalue\c!fromaddress}
>>> \stopsetups
>>>
>>> \protect
>>
>> And add \setupletterstyle[backaddress=yes] to your file
>> because the backaddress is disabled by default.
>
> Thanks very much, this works!
>
> Still a minor suggestion regarding the interface: I guess at the
> moment it's slightly inconsistent because on the one hand one has
>
> \setupletterstyle
>[backaddress=yes]
>
> and on the other hand
>
> \setupletter
>[list={name,phone,fax,date}]
>
> Note that both commands actually implement boolean switches, namely,
> whether backaddress, name etc. should be displayed or not. For
> consistency reasons these switches should perhaps be interfaced in the
> same way, e.g. by "name=yes" etc.

I could support name=yes and alike but I can't drop the
\setupletter[list=...] because you need it to define your own reference
line with personalized elements, e.g. your working in a company
a put a sign for the letter there plus the number of the office etc.

KOMA-Script handles this with the \setkomavar commands but you
have to put the settings for values in the right order in the source.

> Another possibility would be removing the "backaddress=yes" switch
> completely. Then if backaddress data is supplied it's printed along
> with the line below and if not, well, then leave out the separator line.
>
> What do you think?

Have you tried what will happen with a enabled backaddress and
no value for backaddress, fromname and fromaddress are shown
as backaddress but I don't rely on this feature and change it to
waht you suggested.

Regards
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Letter backaddress

2008-07-03 Thread Oliver Buerschaper
>> \unprotect
>>
>> \startsetups[letter:backaddress]
>> \def\\{\lettervalue{\c!backaddress\c!separator}}
>> \doifelselettervalue\v!backaddress
>> {\lettervalue\v!backaddress}
>> {\lettervalue\c!fromname
>> \doiflettervalue\c!fromaddress\\
>> \lettervalue\c!fromaddress}
>> \stopsetups
>>
>> \protect
>
> And add \setupletterstyle[backaddress=yes] to your file
> because the backaddress is disabled by default.

Thanks very much, this works!

Still a minor suggestion regarding the interface: I guess at the  
moment it's slightly inconsistent because on the one hand one has

\setupletterstyle
[backaddress=yes]

and on the other hand

\setupletter
[list={name,phone,fax,date}]

Note that both commands actually implement boolean switches, namely,  
whether backaddress, name etc. should be displayed or not. For  
consistency reasons these switches should perhaps be interfaced in the  
same way, e.g. by "name=yes" etc.

Another possibility would be removing the "backaddress=yes" switch  
completely. Then if backaddress data is supplied it's printed along  
with the line below and if not, well, then leave out the separator line.

What do you think?

Oliver
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Re: [NTG-context] Include SVG pictures with ConTeXt

2008-07-03 Thread Hans Hagen
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Am 2008-06-29 um 21:46 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>> \usemodule[res-08] \setups[rl:manipulate]
>>
>> \setupexternalfigures[location=local,directory=.,conversion=pdf] %
>> lowres,prefix=lowres/]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \externalfigure[svg/ausmap.svg][frame=on]
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> it assumes inkscape being present
> 
> 
> Just wikified that and added a lot of links to SVG resources:
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/SVG
> 
> Since Adobe Reader supports SVG graphics natively - perhaps we could  
> just include them in the PDF?

i remember testing that but there were (at that time) problems with 
scaling and boundingboxes

> Apache's Batik library claims to support SVG to PDF conversion:
> http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/batik/

inkscape is better



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Re: [NTG-context] mplib problems

2008-07-03 Thread Peter Rolf
Peter Rolf schrieb:
> hi,
> 
> does this error message ring a bell? same problem with luatex 0.27 and 
> 0.28 using the latest beta. mkii works ok.
> 
> [..]
> ! LuaTeX error r:/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mlib-pdf.lua:92: 
> bad argument #-1 to 'pen_info' (MPlib.gr expected, got table)
> stack traceback:
>   [C]: in function 'pen_info'
>   r:/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mlib-pdf.lua:92: in function 
> 'pen_characteristics'
>   r:/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mlib-pdf.lua:296: in function 
> 'flush'
>   r:/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mlib-pdf.lua:45: in function 
> 'convert'
>   r:/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mlib-run.lua:255: in function 
> 'process'
>   r:/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mlib-pps.lua:719: in function 
> 'graphic_base_pass'
>   r:/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mlib-ctx.lua:19: in function 
> 'graphic'
>   :1: in main chunk.
> \processMPgraphic ...alizations ;#1;\!!es , "" ) }
>\else \ctxlua { 
> metapost.g...
> \handleuniqueMPgraphic ... {\processMPgraphic {#3}
>}\setxvalue {\@@MPG 
> \overl...
> \douniqueMPgraphic ...#1][#2]\getvalue {\@@MPG #1}
>\empty \elabelgroup
> \executedefinedoverlay ...x {\the \everyoverlay #2
>}}\setbox \scratchbox 
> \hbo...
> \next4 ...d {\??ov \currentbackground }\donothing
>}}}\wd \extraframebox 
> \zer...
> \rawprocesscommaitem ...commalevel \endcsname {#1}
>\expandafter 
> \rawprocessco...
> ...
> [..]
> 
> 
> i also have some problems with endless loops here. luatex (>=0.27) runs 
> wild, comsuming one cpu and memory; no error messages or logging. as i 
> have currently no time, i simply switched back to an older version. 
> 0.25.3 works ok, but has a problem with drawing small line widths (seems 
> to be fixed in 0.28).

the trunk version seems to have fixed that problem. *thanks Taco!!*
but the 'pen_info' error still occurs at two of my examples.

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Re: [NTG-context] bib, Italian style

2008-07-03 Thread Andrea Valle

Ciao Taco,here's an Italian version of bibl-num, following Wolfgang's suggestions.Still I've not tested it extensively (works on a ~20 entry biblio for my last project). In case, I'll update itBest-a-On 3 Jul 2008, at 08:39, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Andrea Valle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks Woflgang,here's my attempt, I've saved it into the same bib folder of bibl-num.texbut luaseems not to recognize it (I'd like to test it). You could put it in your working directory. Here's my log:publications   : file bibl-num-it not found, unknown style ignoredShould I do anything to setup? For new files in your tree call "luatools --generate" or "context --generate"to update the file database.You could also change the header in your bibliography style.%D \module%D   [       file=bibl-num-it,%D        version=2008.07.02,%D          title=Italian numeric bibliography style,%D       subtitle=Publications,%D         author={Taco Hoekwater \& Andrea Valle},%D           date=\currentdate,%D      copyright={Public Domain}]and you should send the file to Taco after it is finished.

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Re: [NTG-context] Include SVG pictures with ConTeXt

2008-07-03 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am 2008-06-29 um 21:46 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>> \usemodule[res-08] \setups[rl:manipulate]
>>
>> \setupexternalfigures[location=local,directory=.,conversion=pdf] %
>> lowres,prefix=lowres/]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \externalfigure[svg/ausmap.svg][frame=on]
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> it assumes inkscape being present
>
>
> Just wikified that and added a lot of links to SVG resources:
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/SVG
>
> Since Adobe Reader supports SVG graphics natively - perhaps we could
> just include them in the PDF?
> Here's a sample script in Perl: http://www.kevlindev.com/utilities/index.htm
> and Python: http://jan.kollhof.net/projects/svg/svgpdf/
> I didn't look at them for I don't know the internals anyway, but I
> guess one could use this technique in Lua, too?

It's just a wrapper to include the image in a pdf file a object stream
(or whatever this is called) and creats links to the image but I was
only able to display it on windows, on Mac I saw only the text
"svg into pdf".

> An other way would be Cairo graphics library (also used by Mozilla) to
> convert SVG: http://cairographics.org
> There's even a Lua binding for Cairo: 
> http://www.dynaset.org/dogusanh/download.html#cairopad
> But I don't really understand if Cairo is suitable to convert SVG to
> other than pixel graphics for screen rendering.
>
> Apache's Batik library claims to support SVG to PDF conversion:
> http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/batik/
>
> So perhaps someone more qualified than me could make SVG integration
> for ConTeXt...

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] how to comment several lines at once ?

2008-07-03 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
>
> \starthiding
> ...
> \stophiding


Ah, never seen that.
Myself I normally use

\startmode[obsolete] % or the like

\stopmode


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Re: [NTG-context] Include SVG pictures with ConTeXt

2008-07-03 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-06-29 um 21:46 schrieb Hans Hagen:
> \usemodule[res-08] \setups[rl:manipulate]
>
> \setupexternalfigures[location=local,directory=.,conversion=pdf] %
> lowres,prefix=lowres/]
>
> \starttext
>
> \externalfigure[svg/ausmap.svg][frame=on]
>
> \stoptext
>
> it assumes inkscape being present


Just wikified that and added a lot of links to SVG resources:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/SVG

Since Adobe Reader supports SVG graphics natively - perhaps we could  
just include them in the PDF?
Here's a sample script in Perl: http://www.kevlindev.com/utilities/index.htm
and Python: http://jan.kollhof.net/projects/svg/svgpdf/
I didn't look at them for I don't know the internals anyway, but I  
guess one could use this technique in Lua, too?

An other way would be Cairo graphics library (also used by Mozilla) to  
convert SVG: http://cairographics.org
There's even a Lua binding for Cairo: 
http://www.dynaset.org/dogusanh/download.html#cairopad
But I don't really understand if Cairo is suitable to convert SVG to  
other than pixel graphics for screen rendering.

Apache's Batik library claims to support SVG to PDF conversion:
http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/batik/

So perhaps someone more qualified than me could make SVG integration  
for ConTeXt...


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Re: [NTG-context] Letter backaddress

2008-07-03 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Oliver Buerschaper
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Dear Wolfgang,
>>
>> I'm struggling with the backaddress option … I tried the following code
>>
>> ---
>> \usemodule[letter]
>>
>>
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>>
>> \setupletter
>>[fromname={Arthur Thor},
>> fromaddress={Hidden Street 2\\57895 Mysterytown},
>> backaddress={Arthur Thor, Hidden Street 2, 57895 Mysterytown}]
>>
>> \setupletter
>>[toname={Mike Willson},
>> toaddress={Lindenstreet 12\\78569 TeX City}]
>>
>> \startletter
>>[subject={Step by step guide to writing a letter},
>> opening={Dear Reader,},
>> closing={Greetings from the Author}]
>>
>> \input knuth
>>
>> \stopletter
>>
>>
>> \stoptext
>> ---
>>
>> but couldn't see the backaddress line in the output. What do I have to
>> change?
>
> There is nothing wrong with your file, I just forgot to add it.
>
> Try the following patch, I will release a new version ASAP. Please give
> me a feedback if this did work.
>
> \unprotect
>
> \startsetups[letter:backaddress]
> \def\\{\lettervalue{\c!backaddress\c!separator}}
> \doifelselettervalue\v!backaddress
>  {\lettervalue\v!backaddress}
>  {\lettervalue\c!fromname
>  \doiflettervalue\c!fromaddress\\
>  \lettervalue\c!fromaddress}
> \stopsetups
>
> \protect

And add \setupletterstyle[backaddress=yes] to your file
because the backaddress is disabled by default.

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Re: [NTG-context] Letter backaddress

2008-07-03 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Oliver Buerschaper
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Wolfgang,
>
> I'm struggling with the backaddress option … I tried the following code
>
> ---
> \usemodule[letter]
>
>
>
> \starttext
>
>
> \setupletter
>[fromname={Arthur Thor},
> fromaddress={Hidden Street 2\\57895 Mysterytown},
> backaddress={Arthur Thor, Hidden Street 2, 57895 Mysterytown}]
>
> \setupletter
>[toname={Mike Willson},
> toaddress={Lindenstreet 12\\78569 TeX City}]
>
> \startletter
>[subject={Step by step guide to writing a letter},
> opening={Dear Reader,},
> closing={Greetings from the Author}]
>
> \input knuth
>
> \stopletter
>
>
> \stoptext
> ---
>
> but couldn't see the backaddress line in the output. What do I have to
> change?

There is nothing wrong with your file, I just forgot to add it.

Try the following patch, I will release a new version ASAP. Please give
me a feedback if this did work.

\unprotect

\startsetups[letter:backaddress]
\def\\{\lettervalue{\c!backaddress\c!separator}}
\doifelselettervalue\v!backaddress
 {\lettervalue\v!backaddress}
 {\lettervalue\c!fromname
  \doiflettervalue\c!fromaddress\\
  \lettervalue\c!fromaddress}
\stopsetups

\protect

Regards,
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[NTG-context] Letter backaddress

2008-07-03 Thread Oliver Buerschaper
Dear Wolfgang,

I'm struggling with the backaddress option … I tried the following code

---
\usemodule[letter]



\starttext


\setupletter
[fromname={Arthur Thor},
 fromaddress={Hidden Street 2\\57895 Mysterytown},
 backaddress={Arthur Thor, Hidden Street 2, 57895 Mysterytown}]

\setupletter
[toname={Mike Willson},
 toaddress={Lindenstreet 12\\78569 TeX City}]

\startletter
[subject={Step by step guide to writing a letter},
 opening={Dear Reader,},
 closing={Greetings from the Author}]

\input knuth

\stopletter


\stoptext
---

but couldn't see the backaddress line in the output. What do I have to  
change?

Best wishes,
Oliver

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-03 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> I guess that Hans has a fonts.conf in his TeX tree, while Linux & Mac
> users don't, and luaTeX doesn't know where to look for fonts.conf.
> What's worse: I suspect that OSFONTSDIR might be completely ignored.

ok, i'll remove that xml file and test further (not now, later)

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-03 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Mojca Miklavec
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Mojca Miklavec
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Andrea Valle wrote:
 But, Hans, in the post Mojca says I have the same problem:)
 uh?
>>>
>>> In font-syn.lua there is
>>>local pathlist = fonts.names.getpaths()
>>>
>>> This used to contain some hard-coded paths for Mac users, but then
>>> Hans switched to reading fonts.conf with
>>>
>>>-- name is "fonts.conf"
>>>local name = fonts.names.xml_configuration_file or ""
>>>if name ~= "" then
>>>-- this works on Hans' computer, but not here; name becomes empty
>>>local name = input.find_file(name,"other")
>>>-- so this loop is never entered and system fonts are never read
>>>if name ~= "" then
>>>collect(xml.collect_texts(xml.load(name),"dir",true))
>>>end
>>>end
>>>
>>> I guess that Hans has a fonts.conf in his TeX tree, while Linux & Mac
>>> users don't, and luaTeX doesn't know where to look for fonts.conf.
>>> What's worse: I suspect that OSFONTSDIR might be completely ignored.
>>>
>>> No, don't ask me where fonts.conf should be. Mine are at
>>>/Users/mojca/.fonts.conf
>>>/private/etc/fonts/fonts.conf
>>> but I have no idea what's the proper/default location if any.
>>
>> $TEXMF/fonts/conf/fonts.conf
>
> For XeTeX on Windows, yes. But not on other platforms.
>
>>> The /private/etc/fonts/fonts.conf one says:
>>>
>>> 
>>>  ~/.fonts.conf
>>>
>>> 
>>>  local.conf
>>>
>>> So I guess that's where the other one gets included.
>>
>> But you need fonts.conf only for XeTeX, LuaTeX (better MkIV) could
>> find the fonts with the predefined paths in mtxrun.
>
> "could" could be read as "should" :)
> But on the other hand, reading fonts.conf does make sense (if you know
> where to look for it). It means that you get all the font paths
> properly set by default already.

Could make sense.

>>elseif name == "macosx" then
>>fix("OSFONTDIR",
>> "$HOME/Library/Fonts//;/Library/Fonts//;/System/Library/Fonts//")
>>else
>
> OSFONT[S]DIR (I always forget which one) does get set. But did you try
> to use any fonts from there? Do they work (with a recent ConTeXt
> version)?

Last beta with delicoius fonts in $HOME/Library/Fonts has worked.

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-03 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Andrea Valle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ah.
> So, what the mail by Mojca meant?
> the one starting with:
> Hans,
> I thought that it had worked some time ago, but it seems that it's
> broken. OPENTYPEFONTS seems the right folders, but doesn't find files
> in them.

Works for me on Mac and Windows.

On windows I have the fonts in the opentype folder in my tex tree.

On Mac I have the fonts in my local font directory.

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-03 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Mojca Miklavec
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Andrea Valle wrote:
>>> But, Hans, in the post Mojca says I have the same problem:)
>>> uh?
>>
>> In font-syn.lua there is
>>local pathlist = fonts.names.getpaths()
>>
>> This used to contain some hard-coded paths for Mac users, but then
>> Hans switched to reading fonts.conf with
>>
>>-- name is "fonts.conf"
>>local name = fonts.names.xml_configuration_file or ""
>>if name ~= "" then
>>-- this works on Hans' computer, but not here; name becomes empty
>>local name = input.find_file(name,"other")
>>-- so this loop is never entered and system fonts are never read
>>if name ~= "" then
>>collect(xml.collect_texts(xml.load(name),"dir",true))
>>end
>>end
>>
>> I guess that Hans has a fonts.conf in his TeX tree, while Linux & Mac
>> users don't, and luaTeX doesn't know where to look for fonts.conf.
>> What's worse: I suspect that OSFONTSDIR might be completely ignored.
>>
>> No, don't ask me where fonts.conf should be. Mine are at
>>/Users/mojca/.fonts.conf
>>/private/etc/fonts/fonts.conf
>> but I have no idea what's the proper/default location if any.
>
> $TEXMF/fonts/conf/fonts.conf

For XeTeX on Windows, yes. But not on other platforms.

>> The /private/etc/fonts/fonts.conf one says:
>>
>> 
>>  ~/.fonts.conf
>>
>> 
>>  local.conf
>>
>> So I guess that's where the other one gets included.
>
> But you need fonts.conf only for XeTeX, LuaTeX (better MkIV) could
> find the fonts with the predefined paths in mtxrun.

"could" could be read as "should" :)
But on the other hand, reading fonts.conf does make sense (if you know
where to look for it). It means that you get all the font paths
properly set by default already.

>elseif name == "macosx" then
>fix("OSFONTDIR",
> "$HOME/Library/Fonts//;/Library/Fonts//;/System/Library/Fonts//")
>else

OSFONT[S]DIR (I always forget which one) does get set. But did you try
to use any fonts from there? Do they work (with a recent ConTeXt
version)?

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-03 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 09:57:51AM +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Andrea Valle wrote:
> > But, Hans, in the post Mojca says I have the same problem:)
> > uh?
> 
> In font-syn.lua there is
> local pathlist = fonts.names.getpaths()
> 
> This used to contain some hard-coded paths for Mac users, but then
> Hans switched to reading fonts.conf with
> 
> -- name is "fonts.conf"
> local name = fonts.names.xml_configuration_file or ""
> if name ~= "" then
> -- this works on Hans' computer, but not here; name becomes empty
> local name = input.find_file(name,"other")
> -- so this loop is never entered and system fonts are never read
> if name ~= "" then
> collect(xml.collect_texts(xml.load(name),"dir",true))
> end
> end
> 
> I guess that Hans has a fonts.conf in his TeX tree, while Linux & Mac
> users don't, and luaTeX doesn't know where to look for fonts.conf.
> What's worse: I suspect that OSFONTSDIR might be completely ignored.
> 
> No, don't ask me where fonts.conf should be. Mine are at
> /Users/mojca/.fonts.conf
> /private/etc/fonts/fonts.conf
> but I have no idea what's the proper/default location if any.

If this is fontconfig's fonts.conf, the per user file is ~/.fonts.conf,
the system wide file depends on your installation. But not every user
will have a ~/.fonts.conf (it must be manually created AFAIK).

Regards,
 Khaled

> 
> 
> The /private/etc/fonts/fonts.conf one says:
> 
> 
>   ~/.fonts.conf
> 
> 
>   local.conf
> 
> So I guess that's where the other one gets included.
> 
> Mojca
> 
> > -a-
> > On 3 Jul 2008, at 00:09, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >
> > Andrea Valle wrote:
> >
> > Ah.
> > So, what the mail by Mojca meant?
> > the one starting with:
> > Hans,
> > I thought that it had worked some time ago, but it seems that it's
> > broken. OPENTYPEFONTS seems the right folders, but doesn't find files
> > in them.
> > 
> >
> > that something is broken om mojca's machine but we're working on it
> > (when we have a spare moment)
> > Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] trouble starting context

2008-07-03 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Jesse Alama wrote:
> Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> I have:
>>
>> LUAINPUTS=.;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic}//:$TEXMF/scripts/context/lua
>> TEXMFSCRIPTS=.;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic,}//;$TEXMF/scripts/context//
>>
>> and I strongly suspect both are needed. After adjusting the value(s),
>> you will have to rerun luatools --generate.
> 
> I modified texmf.cnf to give these variables those values, but I still
> get the same error, even after luatools --generate.  Further
> suggestions?

Maybe

   $ env MPX_INPUT_TRACE=3 context ...

will give some hint about what mtxrun is doing.

> By the way, I initially modified the "local" texmf.cnf file
> 
>   texlive/2008/texmf.cnf
> 
> rather than the "gloal" configuration file
> 
>   texlive/2008/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
> 
> because the former file says that it should contain changes to the
> latter:
> 
>   <---snip--->
>   % If you want to configure something to a value different then the one 
>   % in texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf, just put the changed value here.
>   <---snip--->
> 
> But I noticed that when I ran luatools --generate, it apparently ignored
> this "local" texmf.cnf file; it read only the "global" texmf.cnf file.

This seems to be a difference of opinion between luatools and kpathsea,
(luatools should probably be adjusted to behave the same as kpathsea).

> I inferred that from the output:
> 
>   LuaTools | error unable to locate texmfcnf.lua
>   LuaTools | loading /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
>   LuaTools | preparing configuration for 
> /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/ae181585be5454a57ae25fb95c3ccbef.tma
>   LuaTools | saving configuration in 
> /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/ae181585be5454a57ae25fb95c3ccbef.tma
>   LuaTools | compiling configuration to 
> /Users/alama/luatex-cache/context/79597d0cc507e8e510dd517f8850b2ca/trees/ae181585be5454a57ae25fb95c3ccbef.tmc
>   ...etc.
> 
> Thus I modified the "global" configuration file instead.  By the way,
> the variables LUAINPUTS and TEXMFSCRIPTS already had values:
> 
>   LUAINPUTS = .;$TEXMF/scripts/{$progname,$engine,}/lua//;$TEXINPUTS
>   TEXMFSCRIPTS = $TEXMF/scripts/{$engine,$progname,}//
> 
> But I overwrote those to give them the values you recommended, to no
> avail, unfortunately.
> 
> Jesse
> 

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-03 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Mojca Miklavec
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Andrea Valle wrote:
>> But, Hans, in the post Mojca says I have the same problem:)
>> uh?
>
> In font-syn.lua there is
>local pathlist = fonts.names.getpaths()
>
> This used to contain some hard-coded paths for Mac users, but then
> Hans switched to reading fonts.conf with
>
>-- name is "fonts.conf"
>local name = fonts.names.xml_configuration_file or ""
>if name ~= "" then
>-- this works on Hans' computer, but not here; name becomes empty
>local name = input.find_file(name,"other")
>-- so this loop is never entered and system fonts are never read
>if name ~= "" then
>collect(xml.collect_texts(xml.load(name),"dir",true))
>end
>end
>
> I guess that Hans has a fonts.conf in his TeX tree, while Linux & Mac
> users don't, and luaTeX doesn't know where to look for fonts.conf.
> What's worse: I suspect that OSFONTSDIR might be completely ignored.
>
> No, don't ask me where fonts.conf should be. Mine are at
>/Users/mojca/.fonts.conf
>/private/etc/fonts/fonts.conf
> but I have no idea what's the proper/default location if any.

$TEXMF/fonts/conf/fonts.conf

> The /private/etc/fonts/fonts.conf one says:
>
> 
>  ~/.fonts.conf
>
> 
>  local.conf
>
> So I guess that's where the other one gets included.

But you need fonts.conf only for XeTeX, LuaTeX (better MkIV) could
find the fonts with the predefined paths in mtxrun.

elseif name == "macosx" then
fix("OSFONTDIR",
"$HOME/Library/Fonts//;/Library/Fonts//;/System/Library/Fonts//")
else

Regards
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-03 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Andrea Valle wrote:
> But, Hans, in the post Mojca says I have the same problem:)
> uh?

In font-syn.lua there is
local pathlist = fonts.names.getpaths()

This used to contain some hard-coded paths for Mac users, but then
Hans switched to reading fonts.conf with

-- name is "fonts.conf"
local name = fonts.names.xml_configuration_file or ""
if name ~= "" then
-- this works on Hans' computer, but not here; name becomes empty
local name = input.find_file(name,"other")
-- so this loop is never entered and system fonts are never read
if name ~= "" then
collect(xml.collect_texts(xml.load(name),"dir",true))
end
end

I guess that Hans has a fonts.conf in his TeX tree, while Linux & Mac
users don't, and luaTeX doesn't know where to look for fonts.conf.
What's worse: I suspect that OSFONTSDIR might be completely ignored.

No, don't ask me where fonts.conf should be. Mine are at
/Users/mojca/.fonts.conf
/private/etc/fonts/fonts.conf
but I have no idea what's the proper/default location if any.


The /private/etc/fonts/fonts.conf one says:


  ~/.fonts.conf


  local.conf

So I guess that's where the other one gets included.

Mojca

> -a-
> On 3 Jul 2008, at 00:09, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> Andrea Valle wrote:
>
> Ah.
> So, what the mail by Mojca meant?
> the one starting with:
> Hans,
> I thought that it had worked some time ago, but it seems that it's
> broken. OPENTYPEFONTS seems the right folders, but doesn't find files
> in them.
> 
>
> that something is broken om mojca's machine but we're working on it
> (when we have a spare moment)
> Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-03 Thread Hans Hagen
Andrea Valle wrote:
> But, Hans, in the post Mojca says I have the same problem:)
> uh?

well, then you have to wait till mojca has figured out where it goes 
wrong; i have no mac to test it (it works ok here)

Hans

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[NTG-context] Finish register sorting (was LuaTeX problems)

2008-07-03 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tomi Lindberg wrote:
>> 2008/6/30, Wolfgang Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>> What language do you use for your document, indices work in MkIV
>>>  currently only for english, dutch, czech and german.
>>
>> My document is in Finnish so that certainly explains it. As I'm not on
>> a computer with ConTeXt Minimals at the moment, I must ask if this
>> also means that MkIV doesn't hyphenate other languages correctly (I
>> didn't inspect my result that closely and I've been busy with other
>> stuff the last few days)?
>
> it should work ok; patterns are loaded on demand in mkiv
>
> (btw index sorting, when not defined for a language, uses the english
> sort order)
>
>
>> By quick Googling it seems that none of them sort in "Finnish" way. Is
>> adding a language support big effort or more on the quick 'n' easy
>> side of things? Being quite new to this I wouldn't really like to
>> bother you with guiding me through any major task.
>
> we just need an order (see sort-lan.lua)

I wrote a sorter for finish but we should test it before it can be included.

Wolfgang


sort-lan-fi.tex
Description: TeX document
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Re: [NTG-context] how to comment several lines at once ?

2008-07-03 Thread Pau
in vim(rc):

function! CommentTeX()
  map - :s/^/% /:nohlsearch
  map _ :s/^\s*% \=//:nohlsearch
  set comments=:%
endfunction

autocmd FileType tex   call CommentTeX()

This way, in visual you select the part of the document you want to
comment, then press -
and, voila, you get a % in fornt of every line. To uncomment, press _

2008/7/2 Diego Depaoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/7/2 Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Guess this is (Plain) TeX stuff - haven't found the answer...
>>
>> How do you comment several lines at once, instead of prefixing each line
>> with the % sign ?
> in vim
> :A,Bs/^/%
> A=start line
> B=end line
>
> --
> Diego Depaoli
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