Re: [NTG-context] headers and footers
I'm asking questions (1) and (3) since the main manual was written in 2001. Best, Alan On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: (1) The main manual mentions (bottom of pg 78) setting the state is done for the whole header and (bottom of page 79) the keys state, before and after work on all parts of the pagebody, main text, margins and edges. So there's no way to set the text/margin/edge states separately ? ( I need different visible/invisible settings for standard, frontapart and backpart ) (2) pg 80 table 4.5: what's the difference between state=normal and state=start ? (3) in \setup*[margin/edge] ( * = top/header/footer/bottom ), how do you differentiate between the left and right margin/edge areas ? Thanks and have a great weekend, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] headers and footers
Ok thanks. Next, pg 80 table 4.5, result column state result -- none invisible, no whitespace empty one page invisible, whitespace highone page visible, no whitespace stopinvisible, whitespace What does this mean ? Best, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] headers and footers
(1) The main manual mentions (bottom of pg 78) setting the state is done for the whole header and (bottom of page 79) the keys state, before and after work on all parts of the pagebody, main text, margins and edges. So there's no way to set the text/margin/edge states separately ? ( I need different visible/invisible settings for standard, frontapart and backpart ) (2) pg 80 table 4.5: what's the difference between state=normal and state=start ? (3) in \setup*[margin/edge] ( * = top/header/footer/bottom ), how do you differentiate between the left and right margin/edge areas ? Thanks and have a great weekend, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout
Hi Arthur, I would sooner have you hate me for telling the truth than adore me for telling lies. - Pietro Aretino As for the invitation to the reference project, thanks a lot. I have some work to finish first, then will have some free time to gladly contribute. Wishing you a nice day ( no irony ;O) Best, Alan On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Arthur Reutenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a context reference project, you can help to document it~ I concur. This would be immensely more useful than contributing huge threads and smart-arse remarks to this mailing-list (I especially like the irony of your -- Alan's -- complaints about wasting [your] precious time). Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout
Where did you see topheight, headerheight, footerheight, and bottomheight? 1. http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080812.135630.04ad74e5.en.html 2. From observation: see \showsetups output (right column) This part of ConTeXt and/or the instructional resources somehow got so polluted with incorrect parameters and/or information, a *serious* cleanup would be most welcome so people don't waste their time figuring out which of the basic stuff really works. Does somebody have a comprehensive overview of the active \setuplayout parameters and their meaning, i.e. where the incorrect parameters and information have been filtered out ? That would be most helpful. Thanks on beforehand. Best, Alan On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Alan Stone wrote: Hi, Taking S6 = 600pt wide x 450pt heigh for example... \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \showframe \showsetups \setuplayout[topheight=15pt, headerheight=15pt, footerheight=15pt, bottomheight=15pt, leftedgewidth=0pt, leftmarginwidth=0pt, rightmarginwidth=0pt, rightedgewidth=180pt] \starttext testing \stoptext How come the showframe and showsetups printouts don't correspond to the \setuplayout settings ? Where did you see topheight, headerheight, footerheight, and bottomheight? Perhaps you wanted \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \showframe \showsetups \setuplayout[topspace=15pt, header=15pt, height=middle, footer=15pt, bottomspace=15pt, backspace=0pt, width=middle, cutspace=180pt] \starttext testing \stoptext Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Reorganization of the main page
It has a much better structure indeed. Missing the wiki-only search feature though. Placing the texshow-web and mail archive links in a more relevant section, instead of hidden in the wiki's left column, would be welcome - especially for newbies. Also, when a newbie reads texshow-web (s)he doesn't have a clue what that means. It's geek talk. Better say something like ConTeXt commands directory or something else that's meaningful, relevant and useful for them. Samewise: - live context - download - download area All these don't mean a thing to somebody who sees this page for the first time. Live ConTeXt ? What's that ? A live recording of a band named ConTeXt ? (joking ;O) Download and download area? What's the difference ? As a newbie I don't want to have waste my time and click on every link to find out what's behind it. Tell me from the link itself what it means, what's behind it so I can find what I'm looking for and get up to speed asap. As for the logo... Who cares ? Logo's don't enable people to figure out how to use software and be productive with it. The proof is in the pudding, not in the logo. Hope that helps. Best, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Reorganization of the main page
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Missing the wiki-only search feature though. OK, you're number two. I'll think about it. Here's why Patrick: a wiki being a source of documentation, that's where I look for next when not finding something in the paper manuals and texshow. If I don't find it there, digging deeper through the mailing archive is useful. Having everything mixed up through one google search blurb is oftentimes confusing due to the lack of structure. Also, when a newbie reads texshow-web (s)he doesn't have a clue what that means. Jano Kula suggested to rename it to reference or sth. like that. I'll do so. Reference of what ? Could you suggest some other names? I always have a hard time thinking of some. - live context - Try out ConTeXt online - download - Download the ConTeXt application - download area - Download examples, 3rd party modules, articles, MyWay reports, ... Some other ideas... - A clearly visible (colored ?) banner or link on top of the main page saying something like If you're new to ConTeXt, click here to get started fast... which redirects to the main page Getting Started section might be useful. - http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals The Minimals are an attempt to provide the same functionality as the current Pragma's minimal ConTeXt distributions in the zip files. Etc... This is quite confusing for a newbie: If I install the ConTeXt Minimals, what will I be missing what's in the Pragma's minimal distribution ? Better might be to say something like: In order to provide you the easiest and most current ConTeXt installation and updates, the ConTeXt Minimals are the recommended installation, or whatever else is currently most relevant. Best, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did you see topheight, headerheight, footerheight, and bottomheight? Perhaps you wanted \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \showframe \showsetups \setuplayout[topspace=15pt, header=15pt, height=middle, footer=15pt, bottomspace=15pt, backspace=0pt, width=middle, cutspace=180pt] \starttext testing \stoptext Aditya Although this isn't what I want, you'll notice none of the \showsetups output values correspond to the \setuplayout settings. What's missing to make this work ? Best, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout
Going back to my example (see below)... Same observations, same questions. Alan \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \setuplayout[topheight=15pt, headerheight=15pt, footerheight=15pt, bottomheight=15pt, leftedgewidth=0pt, leftmarginwidth=0pt, rightmarginwidth=0pt, rightedgewidth=180pt] \showframe \showsetups \starttext testing \stoptext On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did you see topheight, headerheight, footerheight, and bottomheight? Perhaps you wanted \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \showframe \showsetups move the previous line \setuplayout[topspace=15pt, header=15pt, height=middle, footer=15pt, bottomspace=15pt, backspace=0pt, width=middle, cutspace=180pt] \starttext to here testing \stoptext Aditya Although this isn't what I want, you'll notice none of the \showsetups output values correspond to the \setuplayout settings. What's missing to make this work ? Best, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout
That said, it is a little confusing that the table from \showsetups doesn't match up ... A little ??? Alan On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: Going back to my example (see below)... Same observations, same questions. The names and values reported by showsetups are not 1-to-1 to the arguments of \setuplayout. If you want to know what you can use in \setuplayout, use any of the manuals, or texshow: http://texshow.contextgarden.net/command/detail/221 That said, it is a little confusing that the table from \showsetups doesn't match up ... Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: Going back to my example (see below)... Same observations, same questions. Alan \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \setuplayout[topheight=15pt, headerheight=15pt, footerheight=15pt, bottomheight=15pt, top,header,footer,bottom etc no height/width appended Thanks Hans. - \showsetups output contains a lot of junk, a thorough cleaning would be utmost welcome - \showframe doesn't draw topspace and bottomspace - which \setuplayout parameters enable a space/blank area between the left/right page border and the left/right of leftedge/rightedge ? Alan leftedgewidth=0pt, leftmarginwidth=0pt, rightmarginwidth=0pt, rightedgewidth=180pt] \showframe \showsetups \starttext testing \stoptext On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did you see topheight, headerheight, footerheight, and bottomheight? Perhaps you wanted \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \showframe \showsetups move the previous line \setuplayout[topspace=15pt, header=15pt, height=middle, footer=15pt, bottomspace=15pt, backspace=0pt, width=middle, cutspace=180pt] \starttext to here testing \stoptext Aditya Although this isn't what I want, you'll notice none of the \showsetups output values correspond to the \setuplayout settings. What's missing to make this work ? Best, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: Going back to my example (see below)... Same observations, same questions. Alan \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \setuplayout[topheight=15pt, headerheight=15pt, footerheight=15pt, bottomheight=15pt, top,header,footer,bottom etc no height/width appended Thanks Hans. - \showsetups output contains a lot of junk, a thorough cleaning would be utmost welcome well, one can roll out his/her own -) I guess as long as one knows to what each parameter corresponds. ;O) Nevertheless, please say more about that. - which \setuplayout parameters enable a space/blank area between the left/right page border and the left/right of leftedge/rightedge ? - \showframe doesn't draw topspace and bottomspace leftedgedistance (which defaults to edgedistance) left/rightedgedistance is documented elsewhere as being between left/rightedge and left/rightmargin. CanItBeAnyMoreConfusingText ? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout
Thanks Taco. I am somewhat confused myself as to why this is generally considered to be so confusing. What's most confusing are the: - wiki layout explanation at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layout - \showsetups output - excursion manual, table 33.2 page 74 - main manual page 24 - \setuplayout texshow page each one listing the same thing similarly or differently using either arguments, parameters and/or variables, the latter of which for the most have nothing to do with the \setuplayout arguments ( or are these parameters, or variables ? ) Best, Alan On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: CanItBeAnyMoreConfusingText ? From left to right, you have: (left)edge (left)edgedistance (left)margin (left)margindistance width (right)margindistance (right)margin (right)edgedistance (right)edge The location of all this on the paper is defined by backspace, which gives the distance between the appropriate (left or right) edge of the text width and the physical paper edge. Similar logic applies in the vertical direction. \showlayout will give the current values and keys (put it after \starttext, it generates four pages of typeset information). I am somewhat confused myself as to why this is generally considered to be so confusing. In vertical mode, it goes like this top topdistance header headerdistance textheight footerdistance footer bottomdistance bottom height sets up the dimension that controls the inner five areas (header ... footer). topspace is the distance between the vertical top edge of the paper and the top of header. You can put \showlayout after \starttext. It will generate four pages of settings (because of double-sided ness). Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: indeed, you have to see these dimensions outwards (so, margindistance, margin, edgedistance, edge ... these extend into the backspace or cutspace depending on left/right) Ahaa. I'm beginning to understand. Meanwhile found the underneath document, which seems to be the most corresponding ( though incomplete compared to pg 24 of the main manual ) Shows a page layout in half size http://levana.de/context/layout/testlay.pdf Thanks all, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Reorganization of the main page
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reference of what ? of all commands. It is better then texshow(-web). Other suggestions? Then commands reference, instead of reference. - live context - Try out ConTeXt online - download - Download the ConTeXt application - download area - Download examples, 3rd party modules, articles, MyWay reports, ... Way too long to fit into the left box! Make the box wider and/or spread the text over more than one line. If impossible, wiki also sucks regarding this feature. ;O) Some other ideas... - A clearly visible (colored ?) banner or link on top of the main page saying something like If you're new to ConTeXt, click here to get started fast... which redirects to the main page Getting Started section might be useful. See Aditya's suggestion. Would this be OK? The only way to know is to test it and observe whether newbies ask questions or complain, then adapt if required. Best, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \reference, \goto(box)
Hi, Win XP - ConTeXt minimal: ConTeXt ver: 2008.08.18 14:00 MKIV fmt: 2008.8.22 int: english/english What has changed with the \reference and/or \goto(box) commands ? I'm getting fatal compile errors related to these while there weren't none previously ( that was under Linux, but shouldn't make any difference ). Thanks, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \reference, \goto(box)
When replacing \goto with \gotobox, everything works fine again. Is \goto depreciated ? Best, Alan On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Win XP - ConTeXt minimal: ConTeXt ver: 2008.08.18 14:00 MKIV fmt: 2008.8.22 int: english/english What has changed with the \reference and/or \goto(box) commands ? I'm getting fatal compile errors related to these while there weren't none previously ( that was under Linux, but shouldn't make any difference ). Thanks, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \reference, \goto(box)
Give us a example! Sorry Wolfgang, for the moment no time to make a minimal example. Best, Alan On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Win XP - ConTeXt minimal: ConTeXt ver: 2008.08.18 14:00 MKIV fmt: 2008.8.22 int: english/english What has changed with the \reference and/or \goto(box) commands ? I'm getting fatal compile errors related to these while there weren't none previously ( that was under Linux, but shouldn't make any difference ). Give us a example! Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout
Hi, Taking S6 = 600pt wide x 450pt heigh for example... \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \showframe \showsetups \setuplayout[topheight=15pt, headerheight=15pt, footerheight=15pt, bottomheight=15pt, leftedgewidth=0pt, leftmarginwidth=0pt, rightmarginwidth=0pt, rightedgewidth=180pt] \starttext testing \stoptext How come the showframe and showsetups printouts don't correspond to the \setuplayout settings ? Thanks, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout
Hi Peter, I meant the showframe and showsetups displays on the pdf document itself, not the document paper printout. Best, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
Are you using TeX or ConTeXt from the language menu? Didn't have ConTeXt in the language menu. I installed the ConTeXt package again and now it works ok. In order to enable people to verify whether their package installation is correct, it might be useful to add a screenshot of Npp with its dropped down modified Language menu. Best, Alan On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:13:09 -0600, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are different levels of folding, 0--8: Alt-0, Alt-1, Alt-8. Alt-0 collapses all, use Alt-Shift-n to uncollapse to the desired degree. These work ok indeed. Nevertheless, the folding marks and foldings themselves run awkwardly in some tex files. Are you using TeX or ConTeXt from the language menu? Back to readme.txt : --- 2) Folding a) ... All \start-stops are foldable, and you can easily add your own in the User-Defined-Language dialog; just select ConTeXt and you can edit all entries. --- Strange... the User Define Dialog User Language drop down box has only one entry: User Define Language. There is nothing else, no ConTeXt entry. I suspect that your userDefineLang.xml is not being recognized and that you are using the default TeX setup. Don't know why... Are you sure the package is installed correctly? Lookk for where Npp installs the original userDefineLang.xml, then overide it with mine. One thing I have noticed is that the default TeX language support in Npp is much better than in past versions. Folding is not so good, though. Note that Hans wrote the original TeX lexer for scite that Npp uses by default (with some modifications). So probably there has been some development of this lexer on the scite side of things. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
Hi Idris, In the readme.txt you wrote... 13. A note: In Preferences, always leave the option Remember the last operation directory unchecked. What's the reason for this recommendation ? Thanks, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
Hi Idris, (1) FYI, Application Data.zip also contains a 'Program Files' folder which has the same contents as 'Program Files.zip' From readme.txt : (2) 9. Copy the directory Program Files\Notepad++ to Program Files Shouldn't it be copy the *contents* of these (sub)directories to their corresponding C:\Program Files\Notepad++ (sub)directories ? (3) 10. Copy the directory Application Data\Notepad++ to Application Data. To Windows XP's C:\Documents and Settings\(username)\Application Data or C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data ? Best, Alan On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:00:00 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like Idris forgot to include the readme thnx, i uploaded a new version with the updated readme. I'll polish it later. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] SciTE in ConTeXt setup
Hi Idris, I open a terminal window and type scite as follows (incl. terminal window output messages): Setting /opt/context/tex as TEXROOT. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/context/tex$ scite then SciTE launches but not in the way I expected. did you use the cscite script to launch scite or the setuptex script? Uh ? What are these scripts ? Best, Alan On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Alan, On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:16:26 -0600, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Launching texexec --check from the SciTE output window gives sh: texexec: not found Exit code: 127 ruby, tidy, xsltproc, gv and rxvt are installed texexec.rb is in /opt/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/ruby What's missing ? Not presently on linux etc. but did you use the cscite script to launch scite or the setuptex script? Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] SciTE in ConTeXt setup
Found it. TeX was not selected in the language menu. ( SciTE doesn't check mark the selected language so I didn't spot it at first ) However now, when compiling I get ... :O) texmfstart texexec --lua mini01.tex TeXExec | processing document 'mini01.tex' TeXExec | no ctx file found TeXExec | tex processing method: context TeXExec | TeX run 1 TeXExec | writing option file mini01.top TeXExec | using randomseed 1346 TeXExec | tex engine: luatex TeXExec | tex format: cont-en LuaTools | using format name: /opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/formats/cont-en.fmt LuaTools | no luc/lua with name: /opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/formats/cont-en LuaTools | LuaTools | runtime: 0.014 seconds TeXUtil | unable to locate mini01.tui TeXUtil | shortcuts : 0 TeXUtil | expansions: 0 TeXUtil | reductions: 0 TeXUtil | divisions : 0 TeXUtil | loaded files: 0 TeXUtil | temporary files: 0 TeXUtil | commands: 0 TeXUtil | programs: 0 TeXUtil | tuo file saved TeXExec | TeX run 2 TeXExec | writing option file mini01.top TeXExec | using randomseed 1346 TeXExec | tex engine: luatex TeXExec | tex format: cont-en LuaTools | using format name: /opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/formats/cont-en.fmt LuaTools | no luc/lua with name: /opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/formats/cont-en LuaTools | LuaTools | runtime: 0.014 seconds TeXUtil | unable to locate mini01.tui TeXUtil | shortcuts : 0 TeXUtil | expansions: 0 TeXUtil | reductions: 0 TeXUtil | divisions : 0 TeXUtil | loaded files: 0 TeXUtil | temporary files: 0 TeXUtil | commands: 0 TeXUtil | programs: 0 TeXUtil | tuo file saved TeXExec | runtime: 0.141179 Exit code: 0 SciTE doesn't locate its own generated files. Fascinating ! Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
Correction... * Encoding: UTF 8, UTF 8 with BOM - what must be selected for ConTeXt ? What must be selected for ConTeXt-MK IV ? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:29:56 -0600, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (1) FYI, Application Data.zip also contains a 'Program Files' folder which has the same contents as 'Program Files.zip' Strange; I'll correct it. From readme.txt : (2) 9. Copy the directory Program Files\Notepad++ to Program Files Shouldn't it be copy the *contents* of these (sub)directories to their corresponding C:\Program Files\Notepad++ (sub)directories ? Put another way: Drop Program Files\Notepad++ onto C:\Program Files I somehow thought this operation would replace C:\Program\Notepad++ ... which isn't. Hey, I learned something new about how Windows works. :O) (3) 10. Copy the directory Application Data\Notepad++ to Application Data. To Windows XP's C:\Documents and Settings\(username)\Application Data or C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data ? See earlier in the readme: in what follows I assume that all configuration files are saved in \username\Application Data\Notepad++ Missed that one. Must have been speeding (reading). Thanks for the comments and You're welcome. Two other questions, if I may... (1) The folding feature behaves strangely. - Instead of folding it collapses everything what's underneath. - Once a folding section gets initiated from within the ConTeXt setup area ( at a \startsomething command ), it runs straight down to \stoptext instead of from every \startsomething to \stopsomething (2) Preferences - New Document tab * Format: Windows - Unix - Mac - are (*.tex) files between these OSs incompatible ? * Encoding: UTF 8, UTF 8 with BOM - what must be selected for ConTeXt ? Looks like great editor nevertheless, much better than SciTE. Thanks again for the ConTeXt package. Best, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
Thanks all. There are different levels of folding, 0--8: Alt-0, Alt-1, Alt-8. Alt-0 collapses all, use Alt-Shift-n to uncollapse to the desired degree. These work ok indeed. Nevertheless, the folding marks and foldings themselves run awkwardly in some tex files. Back to readme.txt : --- 2) Folding a) ... All \start-stops are foldable, and you can easily add your own in the User-Defined-Language dialog; just select ConTeXt and you can edit all entries. --- Strange... the User Define Dialog User Language drop down box has only one entry: User Define Language. There is nothing else, no ConTeXt entry. Has this feature changed since Npp 4.2 ? Alan On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:56:03 -0600, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two other questions, if I may... (1) The folding feature behaves strangely. - Instead of folding it collapses everything what's underneath. - Once a folding section gets initiated from within the ConTeXt setup area ( at a \startsomething command ), it runs straight down to \stoptext instead of from every \startsomething to \stopsomething There are different levels of folding, 0--8: Alt-0, Alt-1, Alt-8. Alt-0 collapses all, use Alt-Shift-n to uncollapse to the desired degree. (2) Preferences - New Document tab * Format: Windows - Unix - Mac - are (*.tex) files between these OSs incompatible ? Should make absolutely no difference, since TeX looks for a blank line to mark paragraph breaks -- or a '\par' -- and does not care about linebreak conventions OTOH: Maybe support will be added for unicode parsep at some point... * Encoding: UTF 8, UTF 8 with BOM - what must be selected for ConTeXt ? Either will work for mkiv. If you enable the utf-8 regime in mkii that should also work. Looks like great editor nevertheless, much better than SciTE.Thanks again for the ConTeXt package. You are welcome :-) Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
Hi Idris, Thanks a lot. One question though... I installed Npp, downloaded the context support package for Npp and extracted the zip file. What/where are the setup instructions please ? Best, Alan On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear gang, I have uploaded the latest version of the ConTeXt support package for Notepad++. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Image:Npp_ConTeXt.zip It has been updated to 5.0.3, the latest stable version. The main difference in the package is the new autocompletion file format. See context.xml. I have also included the Explorer plugin and the latest NppExec plugin (2.4) -- the NppExec that comes with 5.0.3 is just slightly out of date (2.4 RC1). Npp now supports calltips. I was thinking of adding them to context.xml but it would be very time-consuming. Basically, when typing a context command you would get a little window giving you some info about that command if you want it. I may make some suggestions to the Npp team to make this feature more useful. Anyway, Npp keeps getting better and better. It recently won the SourceForge's Community Choice Awards for Best Tool or Utility for Developers: http://ostatic.com/169634-blog/sourceforges-community-choice-awards-winners-named There are just a few more things Npp could use to make this a near-perfect ConTeXt editor, I'll bug the developers soon... Npp can now use external lexers. Eventually I would like to translate the ConTeXt syntax setup to a lexer so we can add a bit more flexibility. Lexer development is way beyond my skills at the moment but if anyone is interested in contributing to this I'd be happy for the help. F7 will repeat the last script executed by F6. So it behaves differently than F7 in Hans' Scite setup (Build). I use NppExec instead of Run anyway. In the next version, I may deprecate the Run menu commands and attach the shortcuts to the NppExec scripts; I think there is even a way to then may a menu of these NppExec shortcuts. This will allow for easier tweaking and experimenting by users, and also updating when Hans changes things ;-) The startstop module is still included, though Hans has just added support for footnote etc environments so that part of the module can be commented out. For mkiv a new sectioning mechanism is on the way, and mkii users can still use Wolfgang's module. See startstop.tex. The original instructions are here: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20070813.050137.7a5796f0.en.html Enjoy! Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Package for Notepad++ v. 5.0.3
Thanks Mohamed. From the attached readme.txt : --- 1. From the installer, you MAY not want to use the default destination folder, 'Notepad++'. texexec and company choke on directory names with characters like '+' in them. So you could change it to, eg, 'Notepadpp'. So if you plan on linking the ConTeXt utilities with the notepad installation directory somehow then you may want to change its name. However, in the following I assume that the directory name remains 'Notepad++' 2. You may also want to check the installation option, Don't use %APPDATA%. Then all your configuration settings will be save in the installation directory. This is because, even if you rename the installation directory, the name of the local user application directory will still be 'Notepad++'. However, in what follows I assume that all configuration files are saved in \username\Application Data\Notepad++. --- Holy bananas, that's confusing... If texexec and company choke on directory names with characters like '+' in them why would one nevertheless assume that the directory name remains 'Notepad++' ? And, even if you rename the installation directory, the name of the local user application directory will still be 'Notepad++ why would one choose to not to use the default destination folder, 'Notepad++'. .. and change it to, eg, 'Notepadpp' ? what OS are you using? XP SP3 Home, Ubuntu 8.04 Best, Alan On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 5:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone software.list.1es9s at gmail.com writes: Hi Idris, Thanks a lot. One question though... I installed Npp, downloaded the context support package for Npp and extracted the zip file. What/where are the setup instructions please ? Best, Alan Seems like Idris forgot to include the readme, incase it hasn't been attached check out the 1 November 2007 rev from http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Image:Npp_ConTeXt.zip your sure to find it there. Put everything in ConTeXt.zip in the same folder you extracted mswincontext.zip (182 mb) then run NPP.bat. Make sure you adjust acrobat.lnk appriopriately as the path is hard-coded. And what OS are you using? Mohamed ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] SciTE in ConTeXt setup
Hi,
I've switched from Linux (Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition) running from
within Windows XP + VirtualBox to a stand-alone Ubuntu installation.
Installed
- ConTeXt minimals in /opt/context
- SciTE through the Synaptic Package Manager, and followed the SciTE in
ConTeXt manual instructions :
* Re. §2: Installing SciTE
Copied
- /opt/context/tex/texmf-context/context/data/*.properties files
and
- /opt/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/scite-ctx.lua
to /usr/share/scite
Then
- included the line 'import context.properties' at the end of
/home/(username)/.SciTEUser.properties
* Re: §3: The TeX lexer
Put context.properties in the same path as SciTEUser.properties
- and to add import context.properties ( instead of import context - see pg
4 ): done already in the previous step
FYI, doing so, context.properties is then in /usr/share/scite *and*
/home/(username) !?
Launching SciTE from a terminal window...
Setting /opt/context/tex as TEXROOT.
(username)@home:/opt/context/tex$ scite
launches SciTE however syntax highlighting doesn't work
Setting /opt/context/tex as TEXROOT.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/context/tex$ export
declare -x COLORTERM=gnome-terminal
declare -x CTXMINIMAL=yes
declare -x
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-GagB6b6HXV,guid=66e95a0ba305ba645af20dad48aeff98
declare -x DESKTOP_SESSION=default
declare -x DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID=
declare -x DISPLAY=:0.0
declare -x GDMSESSION=default
declare -x GDM_LANG=en_US.UTF-8
declare -x GDM_XSERVER_LOCATION=local
declare -x GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=Default
declare -x GNOME_KEYRING_PID=6056
declare -x GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET=/tmp/keyring-uBnsHP/socket
declare -x GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/seahorse-OHgHbT/S.gpg-agent:6110:1
declare -x GTK_RC_FILES=/etc/gtk/gtkrc:/home/alan/.gtkrc-1.2-gnome2
declare -x HISTCONTROL=ignoreboth
declare -x HOME=/home/alan
declare -x HOMETEXMF=/nonexist
declare -x LANG=en_US.UTF-8
declare -x LESSCLOSE=/usr/bin/lesspipe %s %s
declare -x LESSOPEN=| /usr/bin/lesspipe %s
declare -x LOGNAME=alan
declare -x
LS_COLORS=no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=40;31;01:su=37;41:sg=30;43:tw=30;42:ow=34;42:st=37;44:ex=01;32:*.tar=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.svgz=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.lzma=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.dz=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.bz=01;31:*.tbz2=01;31:*.tz=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.jar=01;31:*.rar=01;31:*.ace=01;31:*.zoo=01;31:*.cpio=01;31:*.7z=01;31:*.rz=01;31:*.jpg=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.pbm=01;35:*.pgm=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.tif=01;35:*.tiff=01;35:*.png=01;35:*.svg=01;35:*.mng=01;35:*.pcx=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.mpeg=01;35:*.m2v=01;35:*.mkv=01;35:*.ogm=01;35:*.mp4=01;35:*.m4v=01;35:*.mp4v=01;35:*.vob=01;35:*.qt=01;35:*.nuv=01;35:*.wmv=01;35:*.asf=01;35:*.rm=01;35:*.rmvb=01;35:*.flc=01;35:*.avi=01;35:*.fli=01;35:*.gl=01;35:*.dl=01;35:*.xcf=01;35:*.xwd=01;35:*.yuv=01;35:*.aac=00;36:*.au=00;36:*.flac=00;36:*.mid=00;36:*.midi=00;36:*.mka=00;36:*.mp3=00;36:*.mpc=00;36:*.ogg=00;36:*.ra=00;36:*.wav=00;36:
declare -x MPMEMS=\$TEXMFOS/web2c{/\$engine,}
declare -x OLDPWD=/opt/context/tex
declare -x
PATH=/opt/context/tex/texmf-linux/bin:/opt/context/tex/texmf-linux/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
declare -x PWD=/opt/context/tex
declare -x
RUBYLIB=/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/ruby:/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/ruby:
declare -x SESSION_MANAGER=local/home:/tmp/.ICE-unix/6057
declare -x SHELL=/bin/bash
declare -x SHLVL=2
declare -x SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-uBnsHP/ssh
declare -x TERM=xterm
declare -x TEXFORMATS=\$TEXMFOS/web2c{/\$engine,}
declare -x
TEXMF={\$TEXMFPROJECT,\$TEXMFFONTS,\$TEXMFLOCAL,\$TEXMFOS,\$TEXMFCONTEXT,\$TEXMFEXTRA,!!\$TEXMFMAIN}
declare -x TEXMFCACHE=/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache
declare -x TEXMFCNF=\$TEXROOT/texmf{-local,-context,}/web2c
declare -x TEXMFCONTEXT=/opt/context/tex/texmf-context
declare -x
TEXMFDBS={\$TEXMFPROJECT,\$TEXMFFONTS,\$TEXMFLOCAL,\$TEXMFOS,\$TEXMFCONTEXT,\$TEXMFEXTRA,!!\$TEXMFMAIN}
declare -x TEXMFEXTRA=/opt/context/tex/texmf-extra
declare -x TEXMFFONTS=/opt/context/tex/texmf-fonts
declare -x TEXMFLOCAL=/opt/context/tex/texmf-local
declare -x TEXMFMAIN=/opt/context/tex/texmf
declare -x TEXMFOS=/opt/context/tex/texmf-linux
declare -x TEXMFPROJECT=/opt/context/tex/texmf-project
declare -x TEXMFVAR=/texmf-var
declare -x TEXROOT=/opt/context/tex
declare -x USER=alan
declare -x USERNAME=alan
declare -x VARTEXMF=/texmf-var
declare -x WINDOWID=52437808
declare -x WINDOWPATH=7
declare -x XAUTHORITY=/home/alan/.Xauthority
declare -x XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/:/usr/share/gdm/
declare -x
XDG_SESSION_COOKIE=9ecb3383cfbad7bac2c96be048adcf2a-1219428246.634999-1846302211
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/context/tex$ texexec --check
TeXExec | current distribution: web2c
TeXExec | context source date: unknown
TeXExec | format path: /opt/context/tex/texmf-linux/web2c
Re: [NTG-context] \setuplayout question
Pages and pages and pages skillfully resumed in a few, targeted and simple lines. Keyword: the system is set up in such a way that... Something to consider for the manual updates ? Thanks a lot Hans, Alan On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: Hi, Some/oftentimes, the more I read the scattered documentation, the more I'm confused... and wasting my valuable time testing and trying to figure out how things work. (1) main layout areas: keywords to \setuplayout: header text footer dimension variables: \headerheight etc (2) space above and below main layout area: keywords to \setuplayout: topspace bottomspace dimension variables: \topspace, \bottomspace (3) virtual layout areas: (used for interactive documents where one wants to keep the main text area unchanged by setting these; the virtual areas extend into the topspace and bottomspace) keywords to \setuplayout: top header text footer bottom dimension variables: \topheight, \headerheight etc the system is set up in such a way that one can easily shift the text area as well as disable header and footer Hans ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \setuplayout question
Hi, Some/oftentimes, the more I read the scattered documentation, the more I'm confused... and wasting my valuable time testing and trying to figure out how things work. Here is, for example, why... (1) From \showlayout topspace \topspace top\topheight (2) From ConTeXt An Excursion, page 74 page 71, \setuplayout command parameters topspace dimension top(not referenced) topheight (not referenced) page 74, table 33.2 parameters for page design. topspace \topspace top(not referenced) topheight \topheight (3) From ConTeXt main manual page 24, \setuplayout command parameters topspace dimension topdimension topheight (not referenced) (4) From http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layout topspace \topspace top \topheight topheight (not referenced) (5) From http://texshow.contextgarden.net/command/detail/221 topspace dimension topdimension topheight (not referenced) What is - topspace ? - top ? - topheight ? Please and thank you, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \setuplist coupling parameter
Hi, I screened the available resources (manuals, wiki, texshow) for the purpose and use of the \setuplist command coupling=on/off option without finding an answer. What is it for ? Thanks, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - whatever the dimension (number and/or unit) I set for \setupnarrower[left=1pt,right=1pt] the left and right margin remain the same Use \startnarrower[left,right]. Used it, still doesn't work. - when setting for example \setuplist[chapter][align=middle,distance=1em] ( or whatever else for distance ) it has no effect upon the distance between the chapter number and the chapter title \setuplist[chapter][align=middle,distance=0pt,width=1em] This works. What's the reason for this Wolfgang ? From what I understood from the main manual, it logically should be distance=(x0)pt. Best, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions
correction... Using the brute force tactic I tried setting textwidth which didn't work. It could be textcommand. If so what does \command#1 mean ( see main manual pg 150 ) ? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
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textwidth for what and why, you're in the right edge
Something undocumented. ;O)
It could be textcommand. If so what does \command#1 mean ( see main
manual pg 150 ) ?
\define[1]\SectionList
{\framed{#1}}
\setuplist[section][textcommand=\SectionList]
\starttext
\placelist[section]
\section{Section}
\stoptext
Vielen dank.
Best,
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Schuster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It works.
Ahaa! Now it does. I misunderstood. Thanks.
What's the reason for this Wolfgang ? From what I understood
from the main manual, it logically should be distance=(x0)pt.
'width' is the width of the box for the number and 'distance' is the
distance between the numberbox and the text.
Indeed, so normally you should be setting distance=(x0)pt instead of
the width trickery. Hence my question.
The result is something like:
\hbox to 1em{1\hfil}\hskip 0pt{chapter title ...}
^^ ^^
width distance
Sorry, TeX is currently still like Klingon to me. Thanks anyway.
Hans wrote:
- maxwidth ?
just try it on long entries .. it prevents too long lines
this is a very long entry
this is a very ...
Ok I see. Now, in \placecontent or \setuplist, which parameter
allows to influence where long lines are cut off in two (or more) ?
Like...
(number) This long long
chapter title (pagenumber)
vs.
(number) This long
long chapter title(pagenumber)
Using the brute force tactic I tried setting width and textwith which didn't
work.
It could be textcommand. If so what does \command#1 mean ( see main
manual pg 150 ) ?
Best,
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Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Depends on the situation, for left aligned numbers it didn't matter because
you can't see where the space comes from (1) but for right aligned numbers
you need a postive value for distance (2).
(1) Left aligned number:
\starttext
\bTABLE[frame=off]
\bTR\bTD[width=1cm] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
\eTABLE
\bTABLE[frame=off,distance=5mm]
\bTR\bTD[width=5mm] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext
(2) Right aligned number:
\starttext
\bTABLE[frame=off]
\bTR\bTD[width=1cm,align=flushright] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
\eTABLE
\bTABLE[frame=off,distance=5mm]
\bTR\bTD[width=5mm,align=flushright] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext
I'm impressed...
So you really have an MBA in Klingon! :O)
Hans wrote:
- maxwidth ?
just try it on long entries .. it prevents too long lines
this is a very long entry
this is a very ...
Ok I see. Now, in \placecontent or \setuplist, which parameter
allows to influence where long lines are cut off in two (or more) ?
Like...
(number) This long long
chapter title (pagenumber)
vs.
(number) This long
long chapter title(pagenumber)
Using the brute force tactic I tried setting width and textwith which
didn't
work.
It could be textcommand. If so what does \command#1 mean ( see main
manual pg 150 ) ?
The effect for maxwidth (3cm in my example) is this:
\starttext
\limitatetext {This long long chapter title} {3cm} {\unknown}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
I just tried with
style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\setuplinewidth[(x)pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]}
and several values for (x) in
\startinteractionmenu[myMenu]
\placecontent[
criterium=all,
alternative=b,
%style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},
style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\setuplinewidth[150pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},
interaction=all,
before={\blank[small]\startnarrower[left,right]},
after={\stopnarrower\blank[medium]}]
\stopinteractionmenu
but that generates a compile error. Grrr...
Best,
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Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was the empty line also in your source, if your answer is yes remove it. No, it wasn't in my sauce, correction: source. Although... My source sometimes looks like a messed up sauce. :O) Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
\starttext
\framed{text}
\thinrule
\setuplinewidth[small]
\framed{text}
\thinrule
\setuplinewidth[1cm]
\framed{text}
\thinrule
\stoptext
I don't see the output difference between
\framed{text}
\thinrule
\setuplinewidth[small]
\framed{text}
\thinrule
\setuplinewidth[big]
\framed{text}
while
\setuplinewidth[1cm]
\framed{text}
is fascinating.
You could try
style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\hsize.8\hsize\relax\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},
or
style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\hsize150pt\relax\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},
These work, however not entirely to my satisfaction because then the right
margin setting is modified due to text/head and pagenumber being grouped (
re: drawing, manual pg 150 ).
The better way is to define you own list alternative.
\define[3]\ChapterList
{\hbox
{\hbox to .5em{#1}\hskip.5em
\vtop{\hsize150pt\relax#2}%
\hfil#3}}
\setuplist[chapter][alternative=command,command=\ChapterList]
I'll try that...
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions
The better way is to define you own list alternative.
\define[3]\ChapterList
{\hbox
{\hbox to .5em{#1}\hskip.5em
\vtop{\hsize150pt\relax#2}%
\hfil#3}}
\setuplist[chapter][alternative=command,command=\ChapterList]
I'll try that...
#1, #2, #3 being parameters which can be passed to \ChapterList, aka
\ChapterList[#1,#2,#3]. Is that correct ?
Best,
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Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions
Thanks for these finishing touches Wolfgang.
I'm troubled by the following though...
- whatever the dimension (number and/or unit) I set for
\setupnarrower[left=1pt,right=1pt]
the left and right margin remain the same
- when setting for example
\setuplist[chapter][align=middle,distance=1em]
( or whatever else for distance ) it has no effect
upon the distance between the chapter number
and the chapter title
ConTeXt ver: 2008.07.10 08:40 MKIV fmt: 2008.7.10 int: english/english
Alan
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Wolfgang Schuster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Slightly modfied:
\setuppapersize[S6][S6]
\setupbodyfont[14.4pt]
\setuplayout
[width=360pt,
headerheight=7pt,
footerheight=7pt,
margin=0pt,
backspace=25pt,
topheight=7pt,
bottomheight=7pt,
rightedgedistance=20pt,
rightedge=180pt]
\setuplist[chapter,section][aligntitle=yes,criterium=all]
\setuplist[chapter][align=middle]
\setuphead[chapter][number=yes]
\setuphead[section][number=no]
\setupbackgrounds[text][rightedge][frame=on]
\setupinteraction[
state=start,
menu=on,
page=yes]
\setupnarrower[left=1pt,right=1pt]
\defineinteractionmenu[myMenu][right]
\startinteractionmenu[myMenu]
\placecontent[
criterium=all,
alternative=b,
style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},
interaction=all,
before={\blank[small]\startnarrower},
after={\stopnarrower\blank[medium]},
]
\stopinteractionmenu
\setupinteractionmenu[myMenu][state=start]
\setupinteractionmenu[right][distance=overlay]
\starttext
\chapter{This Long Chapter Title}
\section{This Long Section Title A}
\input knuth
\section{This Long Section Title B}
\input zapf
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions
Hi,
(1) \goto(box)
(1a) What's the difference between
- goto and gotobox ?
(1b) With \goto{Table of Contents}[contents]
each word separately is interactive, not the whole word.
How do you make so ?
(3) \setuplist
(3a) what is
- depth ?
- maxwidth ?
(3b) margin=xpt sets the left margin to xpt
How to set the right margin to xpt ?
Thanks,
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions
(3b) margin=xpt sets the left margin to xpt How to set the right margin to xpt ? depends, sometimes setting the width works ok, otherwise wrap the whole in narrower I'm out of inspiration... \setupnarrower[left=.6pt,right=.6pt] \startinteractionmenu[right] % \startnarrower % sets a wide right margin, whatever \setnarrower left/right settings \placecontent[ %criterium=all, criterium=chapter, alternative=b, style=\tfx, %offset=5pt, % no effect at all %margin=5pt,% only sets left margin %width=.90\rightedge,% no effect at all %before=\startnarrower, % no effect at all %after=\stopnarrower,% no effect at all interaction=all] % \stopnarrower \stopinteractionmenu % \startnarrower % blank menu \setupinteractionmenu[right][ %offset=5pt, % no effect at all % width=.95\rightedge, % no effect at all %before=\startnarrower, % sets a wide right margin, %after=\stopnarrower, % whatever \setnarrower left/right settings distance=overlay] % \stopnarrower Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] goto(box) and setuplist questions
I'm looking to have in the menu...
- chapter title centered
- section title left aligned
- for long chapter/section titles split over more than 1line,
vertical space between these chapter/section lines to be
smaller
- left and right margin of (x)pt
\setuppapersize[S6][S6]
\setupbodyfont[14.4pt]
%\showframe
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=singlesided]
\setuplayout
[width=360pt,
headerheight=7pt,
footerheight=7pt,
margin=0pt,
backspace=25pt,
topheight=7pt,
bottomheight=7pt,
rightedgedistance=20pt,
rightedge=180pt]
\setuplist[chapter,section][
criterium=all,
aligntitle=yes,
interaction=all]
\setuphead[chapter][number=yes]
\setuphead[section][number=no]
\setupbackgrounds[text][rightedge][frame=on]
\setupinteraction[
state=start,
menu=on,
page=yes]
\setupnarrower[left=1pt,right=1pt]
%\setupnarrower[left=5pt,right=5pt]
\defineinteractionmenu[myMenu][right]
\startinteractionmenu[myMenu]
\placecontent[
criterium=all,
alternative=b,
%distance=2pt,% no effect
style=\tfx, % \tfxx is too
small to read
%offset=5pt,% no effect
%margin=5pt, % only sets left
margin
%width=.9\rightedgewidth, % chapter title gets whacked
out of rightedge
%maxwidth=.9\rightedgewidth, % no effect
interaction=all,
before=\startnarrower, % sets a default left and
right margin, i.e. independent
after=\stopnarrower]% of left/right setting
%before=,
%after=]
\stopinteractionmenu
\setupinteractionmenu[myMenu][state=start]
\setupinteractionmenu[right][
%offset=5pt,% no effect
%width=.9\rightedgewidth, % no effect
%maxwidth=.9\rightedgewidth, % no effect
%before=\startnarrower, % no effect
%after=\stopnarrower,% no effect
distance=overlay]
\starttext
\chapter{This Long Chapter Title}
\section{This Long Section Title A}
\input knuth
\section{This Long Section Title B}
\input zapf
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] menu question
the best you can do is to either make the fontsize smaller It would decrease the menu readability too much. the area wider (less linebreaks) It would decrease the text area width too much. or see of \startsimplecolumns ... \stopsimplecolumns Although I don't see how adding columns would provide a solution - the chapter/section titles are in french, i.e. usually longer than for ex. in english ( they could be shortened and then most would become meaningless) - where is that command documented ? I didn't find it in the main manual, excursion, wiki, texshow. helps Not really I'm afraid. :O( Thanks anyway. Best, Alan On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: Hi, With... \startinteractionmenu[right] \placecontent[..., criterium=chapter (or section), ...] \stopinteractionmenu and chapter/section lists longer than the text area height, how do you prevent the menu items from extending beyond the bottom of the text area (and page) and have the menu scroll down after the menu's bottom chapter/section item ? I tried my luck with distance=\textheight but no luck and don't see any other option which could provide this feature. it's a fixed size area so the best you can do is to either make the fontsize smaller, the area wider (less linebreaks) or see of \startsimplecolumns ... \stopsimplecolumns helps Hans ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] menu question
That will do it! Thanks for the tip. Best, Alan On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: the best you can do is to either make the fontsize smaller It would decrease the menu readability too much. the area wider (less linebreaks) It would decrease the text area width too much. or see of \startsimplecolumns ... \stopsimplecolumns Although I don't see how adding columns would provide a solution - the chapter/section titles are in french, i.e. usually longer than for ex. in english ( they could be shortened and then most would become meaningless) in that case don't menu's just use local tocs in the text area and use the menu to refer to them ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
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Hi, With... \startinteractionmenu[right] \placecontent[..., criterium=chapter (or section), ...] \stopinteractionmenu and chapter/section lists longer than the text area height, how do you prevent the menu items from extending beyond the bottom of the text area (and page) and have the menu scroll down after the menu's bottom chapter/section item ? I tried my luck with distance=\textheight but no luck and don't see any other option which could provide this feature. Thanks, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] system modes
Unless I'm mistaken, the non-documented *headertext isn't operational any more. Has it been replaced with something else ? If not, I'm misunderstanding its meaning. Alan On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: Hi, There are *some* system modes listed in the modes manual and main manual. Are *all* system modes listed somewhere ? only the official ones -) when you uncover features in the manual that is not documented it can be - something new, official, that should be documented - something secret (maybe experimental) but visible since everything is visible - something just for me (can be something obscure) Hans ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
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Never mind, the main sections system modes do the trick. Best, Alan On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Unless I'm mistaken, the non-documented *headertext isn't operational any more. Has it been replaced with something else ? If not, I'm misunderstanding its meaning. Alan On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: Hi, There are *some* system modes listed in the modes manual and main manual. Are *all* system modes listed somewhere ? only the official ones -) when you uncover features in the manual that is not documented it can be - something new, official, that should be documented - something secret (maybe experimental) but visible since everything is visible - something just for me (can be something obscure) Hans ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
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Re: [NTG-context] \*interaction* commands
you can run layo-05.tex with --mode=demo to get a simple example, given at the bottom of that file I guess you mean s-pre-05.tex Hans. Best, Alan On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: I'm still trying to reproduce the layo-05.tex example Hans. As its code is rather tortuous I studied other examples. Up till now this has been quite a time investment without noticeable return, partly due to not finding a comprehensive \*interaction* commands documentation to guide me all along. the problem with interaction is that there is not one route ... the simplest way is to just turn it on (\setupinteraction[state=start]) next there are only a few special interaction things: goto, buttons and menus and it really depends on your design then what you use the other thingies (graphics and such) ar enot special to interaction you can run layo-05.tex with --mode=demo to get a simple example, given at the bottom of that file an option is to copy that file into a temp one and start commenting ... that way you see what happens; normally a style is built the other way around, - set up a papersize - adapt the layout - start keying some text - then see what kind of text you have - adapt your design to the content now, esp with things like menus, finetuning really depends on the kind of content; the best way to get a feeling for that is just try things (at least that's how i do it ... just try what looks best as there is no recipy for a design) Hans ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \*interaction* commands
After modifying the s-pre-05.tex example and replacing
\setupinteractionmenu[right] with \defineinteractionmenu[myMenu][right]
the menu doesn't show up anymmore in the pdf.
What's missing ?
Thanks,
Alan
%\usemodule[pre-general]
\setuppapersize[S6][S6]
\setupbodyfont[14.4pt]
\setuplayout
[width=430pt,
height=400pt,
header=0pt,
footer=0pt,
margin=0pt,
backspace=25pt,
topspace=25pt,
rightedgedistance=20pt,
rightedge=110pt]
\setupcolors[state=start]
%\setupinteractionscreen[option=max]
%\setupbackgrounds[state=repeat]
%\setupbackgrounds[page]
% [backgroundcolor=white]
\setupinteraction[
state=start,
menu=on]
% page=yes/no % what is that ?
\defineinteractionmenu[myMenu][right][
before=,
after=,
style=smallbold,
height=35pt,
offset=10pt,
frame=on]
%\startinteractionmenu[right]
\startinteractionmenu[myMenu]
\placelist[chapter][
criterium=all,
alternative=right,% what is right ?
maxwidth=.8\rightedgewidth,
% interaction=all,% what is this supposed to be for ?
before=,
after=]
\vfill
% \setupinteractionmenu[right]
\setupinteractionmenu[myMenu]
[height=30pt]
\but [CloseDocument] Close \\
\stopinteractionmenu
\setupwhitespace[big]
\setupblank[big]
%\defineoverlay[NextPage][\overlaybutton{forward}]
\def\StartTitlePage%
{
\setupbackgrounds[text][text][background=]
% \setupinteraction[menu=off]
\setupinteraction[menu=on]
%\setupinteractionbar[state=stop]
\setupinteractionbar[state=start]
\setuplayout[width=550pt,rightedge=0pt]
\startstandardmakeup
\switchtobodyfont[24pt]
\bfd\setupinterlinespace
\setupalign[middle]
\vfil
\let\\=\vfil}
\def\StopTitlePage%
{\vfil\vfil\vfil
\stopstandardmakeup
\setuplayout[width=430pt,rightedge=110pt]
\setupinteraction[menu=on]
\setupinteractionbar[state=start]
}
\def\TitlePage#1%
{\StartTitlePage#1\StopTitlePage}
\setuphead
[chapter, title]
[after={\blank[3*medium]},
number=no,
style=\tfb,
page=yes,
alternative=middle]
\setuphead
[section]
[after=\blank,
number=no,
page=yes,
continue=no,
style=\tfa]
\starttext
\TitlePage{Title Page}
Some Nice Quotes
\chapter{A Few}
\section{Knuth} \input knuth
\section{Tufte} \input tufte
\chapter{Some More}
\section{Zapf} \input zapf
\section{Bryson} \input bryson
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] \*interaction* commands
I'm still trying to reproduce the layo-05.tex example Hans. As its code is rather tortuous I studied other examples. Up till now this has been quite a time investment without noticeable return, partly due to not finding a comprehensive \*interaction* commands documentation to guide me all along. Therefore, I wanted to give it (and ConTeXt) one last chance by starting from scratch and progress by trial and error. Hence my previous question. Alan P.S. What I meant by texshow being a black hole is: there's a lot of stuff in there, but for the most part (as a user) I don't have a clue what it is and what it means. On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taco Hoekwater wrote: Alan Stone wrote: HI, Where can I find a *comprehensive* explanation of all \*interaction* commands and their options ? AFAIK, the best bet at the moment is texshow: http://texshow.contextgarden.net/ and put interaction in the search field. depends a bit on what you want to do ... mwidgets.pdf is ok, and also the s-pre-* files have lots of examples Hans ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] context manuals sources
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:56:53 +0200 From: Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailing list for ConTeXt users ntg-context@ntg.nl re: http://context.aanhet.net/svn/manuals/context/ I've downloaded all files from the above directory to a separate folder on my PC and am trying to compile the screen version of the english context manual with texmfstart texexec --pdf --mode=screen cont-en.tex Is that the correct command ? I'm receiving compile errors (log file in attachement). Comment the fourth line in layo-02.tex, as the error message says the command \interfacetranslationtrue is not defined. that part of the style is kind of low level; the interfase stuff is now xml bases so there is no need for dirtuy hacks any more (overloads and such); i have a better version here (will upload it at some point); Where can the updated version be downloaded please ? Thanks, Alan - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] hiding content
Instead of looking to insert exactly the same amount of blank space as if the content would be typeset, is it possible to generate, in one compile job, the document's preview version (*) with its full version (non-interactive) table of contents (TOC), index, list of figures, ... instead ? (*) using hidden texblocks, or \new\ifhidden ... \ifhidden ... \else ... \fi ( without the spooky phantom thingies ), showing a text block indicating this part is hidden, to hide whatever is required ( headers, linebreaks, tables, figures etc. ) Or... Create a batch file to - first generate the full version, then - generate the preview version, then - replace the preview version's TOC, index, list of figures, ... with the full version's (non-interactive one) ? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] hiding content
How come this doesn't work ?
\defineblock[prev]
\defineblock[full]
\hideblocks[full]
%\hideblocks[prev]
\def\previewMsg{This part is hidden}
\def\showPreviewMsg{\beginprev \hairline \previewMsg \hairline \endprev}
\starttext
\input tufte
\showPreviewMsg % it doesn't show
%\beginprev
%\hairline
%\previewMsg
%\hairline
%\endprev
\beginfull
\input knuth
\endfull
\input tufte
\stoptext
Alan
P.S. What is the \processblocks command for ?
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[NTG-context] hiding content
Re: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050707.214524.2b87e5f1.en.html Mojca asked... Is there a way to somehow \starthidden ... \stophidden, which would leave exactly the same amount of blank space as if the content would be typeset? What's the current status on this issue ? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] hiding content
I understood from this post http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050708.105010.33153980.en.html there were issues with the different solutions offered. Do you want to hide only text or also figures, tables, formulae etc. For the time being there's only text, however in a later stage there will be figures/pics too. do you need a solution that will work also over page breaks. Yes, to make a preview version of a book. Alan On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050707.214524.2b87e5f1.en.html Mojca asked... Is there a way to somehow \starthidden ... \stophidden, which would leave exactly the same amount of blank space as if the content would be typeset? What's the current status on this issue ? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] hiding content
And you want to hide part of the content for ... Enabling people to view the pdf preview version (limited, containing excerpts) before acquiring the full version. Alan On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understood from this post http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050708.105010.33153980.en.html there were issues with the different solutions offered. You should give it a try, a few of the points concerned security reasons and old version of Acrobat Reader, there is also a wiki page about this topic. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Hiding_Content Do you want to hide only text or also figures, tables, formulae etc. For the time being there's only text, however in a later stage there will be figures/pics too. do you need a solution that will work also over page breaks. Yes, to make a preview version of a book. And you want to hide part of the content for ... Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] hiding content
What do you mean by do a run of the completed matter to see what
the pagination would be ?
Alan
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Charles P. Schaum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Why not, if all else fails, do a run of the completed matter to see what
the pagination would be, then do something like:
\newif\ifhidden
% Uncomment this if you want to hide content.
% \hiddentrue
\ifhidden
% . . . preferrably use ConTeXt-friendly pagination
% commands; this was taken from a plain old TeX file.
% Shove in white space or \phantom{} boxes with dummy text of
% equivalent length; ConTeXt likes its own \blank{} macro.
% Raw TeX stuff can mess up pagination and spacing.
%
% I'm not sure if a \vbox to dimen {} works well or not here.
% Just try a few ways to see.
\else
% Put all your usual content here.
\fi
It's a kludge, but it should work in a pinch.
Charles
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 15:21 +0200, Alan Stone wrote:
And you want to hide part of the content for ...
Enabling people to view the pdf preview version (limited, containing
excerpts) before acquiring the full version.
Alan
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Alan Stone
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I understood from this post
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050708.105010.33153980.en.html
there were issues with the different solutions offered.
You should give it a try, a few of the points concerned
security reasons and
old version of Acrobat Reader, there is also a wiki page about
this topic.
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Hiding_Content
Do you want to hide only text or also figures, tables,
formulae etc.
For the time being there's only text, however in a later
stage there will be
figures/pics too.
do you need a solution that
will work also over page breaks.
Yes, to make a preview version of a book.
And you want to hide part of the content for ...
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] hiding content
Eureka! I understand what you mean. :O) Alan On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean by do a run of the completed matter to see what the pagination would be ? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] startbodymatter question
\setupsectionblock[bodypart][page=yes]
\setupsectionblock[backpart][page=yes]
or for the backpart
\setupsectionblock[backpart][page=yes,before={\page[left]}]
Thanks Wolfgang.
I've been playing with different bodypart and backpart setupsectionblock
settings: number=yes/no, page=yes/no/right,
before/after={\page[left/right]}]
From what I observed and understand (from the manual and
http://texshow.contextgarden.net/command/detail/296 )...
number=yes/no : doesn't have any effect at all
page=yes : starts (a section block on) a new (left or right) page
page=no : doesn't have any effect at all
page=right: starts (a section block on) a (new) right page
before/after : before/after starting the new page
\page[left/right] : forces a left/right page
The following
\setupsectionblock[backpart][before={\page[left]}]
gives more what I was looking after, however there's still
a blank numbered page as the last chapter's last page
which I've unsuccessfully been trying to get without page
number.
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Re: [NTG-context] startbodymatter question
But only in MkII, if you have a problem with this in MkIV make a example.
\setuppapersize [A4][A4]
%\setuppagenumbering[alternative=singlesided]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\definepagebreak[myChapterPageBreak][yes,header,footer,right]
\setuphead[chapter][page=myChapterPageBreak]
\startsectionblockenvironment[frontpart]
\setupheader[state=stop]
\setupfooter[state=stop]
\stopsectionblockenvironment
\startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart]
\setupheader[state=start]
\setupfooter[state=start]
\stopsectionblockenvironment
\startsectionblockenvironment[backpart]
\setupheader[state=stop]
\setupfooter[state=stop]
\stopsectionblockenvironment
\setupsectionblock[backpart][before={\page[left]}]
\starttext
\startstandardmakeup
Title
\blank[3*big]
Author
\stopstandardmakeup
\startfrontmatter
Table of Contents
\blank[3*big]
\placecontent
\stopfrontmatter
\startbodymatter
\chapter{Chapter 1}
\section{Section 1.1}
\input knuth
\blank
\input knuth
\blank
\input knuth
\section{Section 1.2}
\input tufte
\blank
\input tufte
\blank
\input tufte
\section{Section 1.3}
\input zapf
\blank
\input zapf
\blank
\input zapf
\chapter{Chapter 2}
\section{Section 2.1}
\input knuth
\blank
\input knuth
\blank
\input knuth
\section{Section 2.2}
\input tufte
\blank
\input tufte
\blank
\input tufte
\section{Section 2.3}
\input zapf
\blank
\input zapf
\blank
\input zapf
\starthiding
\chapter{Chapter 3}
\section{Section 3.1}
\input knuth
\blank
\input knuth
\blank
\input knuth
\section{Section 3.2}
\input tufte
\blank
\input tufte
\blank
\input tufte
\section{Section 3.3}
\input zapf
\blank
\input zapf
\blank
\input zapf
\stopbodymatter
\stophiding
\startbackmatter
back page
\stopbackmatter
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] startbodymatter question
Correction ( disregard the previous example)...
\setuppapersize [A4][A4]
%\setuppagenumbering[alternative=singlesided]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\definepagebreak[myChapterPageBreak][yes,header,footer,right]
\setuphead[chapter][page=myChapterPageBreak]
\startsectionblockenvironment[frontpart]
\setupheader[state=stop]
\setupfooter[state=stop]
\stopsectionblockenvironment
\startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart]
\setupheader[state=start]
\setupfooter[state=start]
\stopsectionblockenvironment
\startsectionblockenvironment[backpart]
\setupheader[state=stop]
\setupfooter[state=stop]
\stopsectionblockenvironment
\setupsectionblock[backpart][before={\page[left]}]
\starttext
\startstandardmakeup
Title
\blank[3*big]
Author
\stopstandardmakeup
\startfrontmatter
Table of Contents
\blank[3*big]
\placecontent
\stopfrontmatter
\startbodymatter
\chapter{Chapter 1}
\section{Section 1.1}
\input knuth
\blank
\input knuth
\blank
\input knuth
\section{Section 1.2}
\input tufte
\blank
\input tufte
\blank
\input tufte
\section{Section 1.3}
\input zapf
\blank
\input zapf
\blank
\input zapf
\chapter{Chapter 2}
\section{Section 2.1}
\input knuth
\blank
\input knuth
\blank
\input knuth
\section{Section 2.2}
\input tufte
\blank
\input tufte
\blank
\input tufte
\section{Section 2.3}
\input zapf
\blank
\input zapf
\blank
\input zapf
\stopbodymatter
\startbackmatter
back page
\stopbackmatter
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] startbodymatter question
You need
\setupsectionblock[bodypart][page=yes]
\setupsectionblock[backpart][page=yes,before={\page[left]}]
I tried that Wolfgang.
However I'd like the pages setup like in my last example with, in a double
sided document, the back page on the [(next even page) + 2]. So, refering to
the output of the last example: page 10 being a blank page without page
number and, as is, the back page on page 10 + 2 = page 12.
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] startbodymatter question
Stated otherwise...
If, in a double sided document, the last chapter/appendix/whatever's last
page
= an even page (p) - back page = on page (p) + 2
= an odd page (p) - back page = on page (p) + 3
with
whatever pages = non to the main part of the document related pages - makup
pages ?
Alan
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
You need
\setupsectionblock[bodypart][page=yes]
\setupsectionblock[backpart][page=yes,before={\page[left]}]
I tried that Wolfgang.
However I'd like the pages setup like in my last example with, in a double
sided document, the back page on the [(next even page) + 2]. So, refering to
the output of the last example: page 10 being a blank page without page
number and, as is, the back page on page 10 + 2 = page 12.
Alan
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[NTG-context] startbodymatter question
Hi,
How do you get rid of the doublesided document's page number on the blank
page
inserted after the last chapter ?
Alan
ConTeXt ver: 2008.07.10 08:40 MKIV fmt: 2008.7.10 int: english/english
texmfstart texexec --lua test.tex
--- start of code ---
\setuppapersize [A4][A4]
%\setuppagenumbering[alternative=singlesided]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\definepagebreak[myChapterPageBreak][yes,header,footer,right]
\setuphead[chapter][page=myChapterPageBreak]
\startsectionblockenvironment[frontpart]
\setupheader[state=stop]
\setupfooter[state=stop]
\stopsectionblockenvironment
\startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart]
\setupheader[state=start]
\setupfooter[state=start]
\stopsectionblockenvironment
\setupsectionblock[bodypart][page=no] % doesn't make a difference
\startsectionblockenvironment[backpart]
\setupheader[state=stop]
\setupfooter[state=stop]
\stopsectionblockenvironment
\starttext
\startstandardmakeup
Title
\blank[3*big]
Author
\stopstandardmakeup
\startfrontmatter
Table of Contents
\blank[3*big]
\placecontent
\stopfrontmatter
\startbodymatter
\chapter{Chapter 1}
\section{Section 1.1}
\input knuth
\blank
\input knuth
\blank
\input knuth
\section{Section 1.2}
\input tufte
\blank
\input tufte
\blank
\input tufte
\section{Section 1.3}
\input zapf
\blank
\input zapf
\blank
\input zapf
\chapter{Chapter 2}
\section{Section 2.1}
\input knuth
\blank
\input knuth
\blank
\input knuth
\section{Section 2.2}
\input tufte
\blank
\input tufte
\blank
\input tufte
\section{Section 2.3}
\input zapf
\blank
\input zapf
\blank
\input zapf
\stopbodymatter
\startbackmatter
back cover
\stopbackmatter
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]
You're playing games with me, do you? Nope. I'm playing with ctx/ltx, testing by trial and error what's possible. You need the same name for both typefaces. Hmmm... I was definitely interpreting this too literally then. Thanks for your support enabling me to better understand ctx/ltx font handling and typescripts. Best, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
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\starttypescript[myFonts]
\definetypeface [mySerifFont] [rm] [serif] [mySerifFont] [default]
\definetypeface [mySansFont] [ss] [sans] [mySansFont] [default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[myFonts]
\definetypeface [myFonts] [rm] [serif] [mySerifFont] [default]
\definetypeface [myFonts] [ss] [sans] [mySansFont] [default]
\stoptypescript
You need the same name for both typefaces.
Are you sure ?
This works though...
\setuppapersize [A4][A4]
\starttypescript [serif] [mySerifFont]
\definefontsynonym [mySerifFontRegular] [name:Times New Roman]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [mySerifFontItalic] [name:Times New Roman Italic]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [mySerifFontBold] [name:Times New Roman Bold]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [mySerifFontBoldItalic] [name:Times New Roman Bold
Italic] [features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [serif] [mySerifFont]
\setups[font:fallback:serif]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [mySerifFontRegular]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [mySerifFontItalic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [mySerifFontBold]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [mySerifFontBoldItalic]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [sans] [mySansFont]
\definefontsynonym [mySansFontRegular] [name:Arial] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [mySansFontItalic] [name:Arial Italic]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [mySansFontBold] [name:Arial Bold] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [mySansFontBoldItalic] [name:Arial Bold Italic]
[features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [sans] [mySansFont]
\setups[font:fallback:sans]
\definefontsynonym [Sans] [mySansFontRegular]
\definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [mySansFontItalic]
\definefontsynonym [SansBold] [mySansFontBold]
\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [mySansFontBoldItalic]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[myFonts]
\definetypeface [mySerifFont] [rm] [serif] [mySerifFont] [default]
\definetypeface [mySansFont] [ss] [sans] [mySansFont] [default]
\stoptypescript
\usetypescript[myFonts]
\setupbodyfont[mySerifFont,12pt]
\definefont[myChapterFont][mySansFontRegular sa 1.728]
\setuphead[chapter][style=\mySansFont\myChapterFont]
\starttext
\chapter{chapter test}
\section{section test}
text test
\stoptext
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Charles P. Schaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With Ubuntu and fonts there are several things going on. Which begets the question... Regarding font installation, detection and other (non font related) issues which occur recurrently when working with (Con)TeX(t), which GNU/Linux distribution(s) is(/are) most user-friendly ? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
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itself (search for bodyfontenvironment in the mail archive). The most, though still scarce information is available at http://texshow.contextgarden.net -- Alan ~ If you're tired of the crap and nonsense served daily on TV (some call it the idiot box), in the media and elsewhere, here's a wonderful alternative. Probably the most useful, enriching and inspiring website on the planet... http://www.ted.com ~ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \startfrontmatter Co.
On page 17, the ConTeXt manual mentions the commands \startfrontmatter - \stopfrontmatter \startbodymatter - \stopbodymatter \startbackmatter - \stopbackmatter What's the precise use and benefit of these commands, other a cleaner project structure ? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]
Thanks a lot for your helpful comments Wolfgang. I will add to my todo list Write a few lines about font installation for XeTeX and LuaTeX and how to use them in style keys. With the bits and pieces of information ( current and outdated ) about these matters presently being scattered all over the place, an updated guide will definitely be very useful for newbies ( and oldies ? ), speeding up their comprehension and enabling them to focus on what's important, i.e. productive issues, using ConText with LuaTeX/XeTeX. Have a great weekend, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]
Thanks Wolfgang.
calm down.
Done.
I've let some steam off earlier on.OoOo:O)
\setuphead[chapter][style=\
myHeadingsFont\myChapterFont]
You have to load 'myHeadingsfont' typescript before you can use
them because they are not available on outer level, only fonts used
as bodyfont can be accesed without this selection.
That works indeed.
I found the information to solve your problem in the fonts manual and
you should read it if you need more information.
Oh, the number of times I read it. One more time a moment ago.
Sooo... the Da Fonti Code is hidden in there. In which section of the manual
did you find the clue ?
In my quest to further understand how this stuff works, I've been testing
the following...
\setuppapersize [A4][A4]
\starttypescript [serif] [mySerifFont]
\definefontsynonym [mySerifFontRegular] [name:Times New Roman]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [mySerifFontItalic] [name:Times New Roman Italic]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [mySerifFontBold] [name:Times New Roman Bold]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [mySerifFontBoldItalic] [name:Times New Roman Bold
Italic] [features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [serif] [mySerifFont]
\setups[font:fallback:serif]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [mySerifFontRegular]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [mySerifFontItalic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [mySerifFontBold]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [mySerifFontBoldItalic]
\stoptypescript
%\starttypescript [mySerifFont]
%\definetypeface [mySerifFont] [rm] [serif] [mySerifFont] [default]
%\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [sans] [mySansFont]
\definefontsynonym [mySansFontRegular] [name:Arial] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [mySansFontItalic] [name:Arial Italic]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [mySansFontBold] [name:Arial Bold] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [mySansFontBoldItalic] [name:Arial Bold Italic]
[features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [sans] [mySansFont]
\setups[font:fallback:sans]
\definefontsynonym [Sans] [mySansFontRegular]
\definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [mySansFontItalic]
\definefontsynonym [SansBold] [mySansFontBold]
\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [mySansFontBoldItalic]
\stoptypescript
%\starttypescript [mySansFont]
%\definetypeface [mySansFont] [ss] [sans] [mySansFont] [default]
%\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[myFonts]
\definetypeface [mySerifFont] [rm] [serif] [mySerifFont] [default]
\definetypeface [mySansFont] [ss] [sans] [mySansFont] [default]
\stoptypescript
\usetypescript[myFonts]
\setupbodyfont[mySerifFont,12pt]% this displays the correct font
%\setupbodyfont[mySansFont,12pt]% this displays the correct font
\definefont[myChapterFont][mySansFont sa 1.728] % compile error at line
57 with (2) [and (1)]
%\definefont[myChapterFont][Arial sa 1.728] % this works with
(1), compile error at line 57 with (2)
%\definefont[myChapterFont][Sans sa 1.728] % defaults to LM
font with (1), compile error at line 57 with (2)
%\setuphead[chapter][style=\myChapterFont] % (1)
%\setuphead[chapter][style=\myFonts\myChapterFont] % (2)
%\setuphead[chapter][style=\tfc\mySansFont] % (3) this
works
\starttext
\chapter{chapter test} % line 57
\section{section test}
text test
\stoptext
Looking for further clues.
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O)
(resend: didn't get through yesterday) Thanks a lot Wolfgang. There's still something I don't understand... Why does this not compile then: see the (new) attachements ? Alan test.tex Description: Binary data test.log Description: Binary data ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
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( 2nd and last attempt: message didn't get through )
Thanks a lot Wolfgang. There's still something I don't understand though...
Why does this not compile then ?
\setuppapersize [A4][A4]
\starttypescript [serif] [myBodyFont]
\definefontsynonym [myBodyFontRegular] [name:Times New Roman]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [myBodyFontItalic] [name:Times New Roman Italic]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [myBodyFontBold] [name:Times New Roman Bold]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [myBodyFontBoldItalic] [name:Times New Roman Bold
Italic] [features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [serif] [myBodyFont]
\setups[font:fallback:serif]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [myBodyFontRegular]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [myBodyFontItalic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [myBodyFontBold]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [myBodyFontBoldItalic]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [myBodyFont]
\definetypeface [myBodyFont] [rm] [serif] [myBodyFont] [default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [sans] [myHeadingsFont]
\definefontsynonym [myHeadingsFontRegular] [name:Arial]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [myHeadingsFontItalic] [name:Arial Italic]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [myHeadingsFontBold] [name:Arial Bold]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [myHeadingsFontBoldItalic] [name:Arial Bold Italic]
[features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [sans] [myHeadingsFont]
\setups[font:fallback:sans]
\definefontsynonym [Sans] [myHeadingsFontRegular]
\definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [myHeadingsFontItalic]
\definefontsynonym [SansBold] [myHeadingsFontBold]
\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [myHeadingsFontBoldItalic]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [myHeadingsFont]
\definetypeface [myHeadingsFont] [ss] [sans] [myHeadingsFont] [default]
\stoptypescript
\usetypescript[myBodyFont]
\usetypescript[myHeadingsFont]
\setupbodyfont[myBodyFont,12pt]
\definefont[myChapterFont][myHeadingsFontRegular sa 1.728]
%\setuphead[chapter][style=myChapterFont] % compile error at line 49
\setuphead[chapter][style=\myChapterFont] % compile error at line 49
\starttext
\chapter{chapter test}% line 49
\section{section test}
text test
\stoptext
---
ConTeXt ver: 2008.07.10 08:40 MKIV fmt: 2008.7.10 int: english/english
language : language en is active
system : cont-new loaded
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
lua: used config path - /opt/context/tex/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
lua: used cache path -
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7
) (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-mtx.tex))
system : cont-old loaded
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading: Context Old Macros
)
system : cont-fil loaded
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading: Context File Synonyms
)
system : cont-sys loaded
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex))
bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded
load otf | loading:
/opt/context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/lm/lmroman12-regular.otf
load otf | enhance: before
load otf | enhance: enrich
load otf | enhance: registering tlig feature
load otf | enhance: registering trep feature
load otf | enhance: flatten
load otf | flattening 'specifications' tables
load otf | flattening 'anchor' tables
load otf | flattening 'gpos' tables
load otf | flattening 'gsub' tables
load otf | enhance: analyze
load otf | enhance: after
load otf | replacing 'kerns' tables by 'mykerns' tables
load otf | enhance: patch
load otf | enhance: strip
load otf | enhance: pack
load otf | file size: 107060
load otf | saving: in cache(test.tex
( snip: file too big )
load otf | loading:
/opt/context/tex/texmf/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/timesbi.ttf
load otf | warning: Warning: Glyph 257 is named middot which should mean it
is mapped to
Unicode U+00B7, but Glyph 194 already has that encoding.
load otf | warning: Glyph 915 is called .notdef, a singularly inept choice
of name (only glyph 0
may be called .notdef)
FontForge will rename it.
load otf | enhance: before
load otf | enhance: enrich
load otf | enhance: registering tlig feature
load otf | enhance: registering trep feature
load otf | enhance: flatten
load otf | flattening 'specifications' tables
load otf | flattening 'anchor' tables
load otf | flattening 'gpos' tables
load otf | flattening 'gsub' tables
load otf | enhance: analyze
load otf | enhance: after
load otf | replacing 'kerns' tables by 'mykerns' tables
load otf |
[NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]
(1) \definefont[myChapterFont][myHeadingsFont sa 1.728]
You could either use a real font name like 'Arial' or a symbolic name
defined with \definefontsynonym like 'Serif', 'SerifBold', 'Sans',
'Dummy-Regular' etc. in the second argument of \definefont but not
the name for a font collection defined with \definetype, in your case
\definefont[myChapterFont][Sans sa 1.728]
or
\definefont[myChapterFont][DummyRegular sa 1.728]
So ( and considering the example at
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Chapters_headers )
I tried...
\setuppapersize [A4][A4]
\starttypescript [serif] [myBodyFont]
\definefontsynonym [myBodyFontRegular] [name:Times New Roman]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [myBodyFontItalic] [name:Times New Roman Italic]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [myBodyFontBold] [name:Times New Roman Bold]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [myBodyFontBoldItalic] [name:Times New Roman Bold
Italic] [features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [serif] [myBodyFont]
\setups[font:fallback:serif]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [myBodyFontRegular]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [myBodyFontItalic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [myBodyFontBold]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [myBodyFontBoldItalic]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [myBodyFont]
\definetypeface [myBodyFont] [rm] [serif] [myBodyFont] [default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [sans] [myHeadingsFont]
\definefontsynonym [myHeadingsFontRegular] [name:Arial]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [myHeadingsFontItalic] [name:Arial Italic]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [myHeadingsFontBold] [name:Arial Bold]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [myHeadingsFontBoldItalic] [name:Arial Bold Italic]
[features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [sans] [myHeadingsFont]
\setups[font:fallback:sans]
\definefontsynonym [Sans] [myHeadingsFontRegular]
\definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [myHeadingsFontItalic]
\definefontsynonym [SansBold] [myHeadingsFontBold]
\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [myHeadingsFontBoldItalic]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [myHeadingsFont]
\definetypeface [myHeadingsFont] [ss] [sans] [myHeadingsFont] [default]
\stoptypescript
\usetypescript[myBodyFont]
\usetypescript[myHeadingsFont]
\setupbodyfont[myBodyFont,12pt]% this works: body font displays in the
correct font
%\definefont[myChapterFont][myHeadingsFontRegular sa 1.728] % compile
error at line 51: WHY ?
\definefont[myChapterFont][Arial sa
1.728] % only this works: WHY ?
%\definefont[myChapterFont][Sans sa 1.728]
% defaults to default LM font for line 51: WHY ?
%\setuphead[chapter][style=myChapterFont]
\setuphead[chapter][style=\myChapterFont]
\starttext
\chapter{chapter test} % line 51
\section{section test}
text test
\stoptext
Many thanks in advance for your enlightening help.
Alan
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Hi, When using more than one font in a document, what is the corresponding \showbodyfont command for the non-bodyfont(s) ? I tried \showbodyfont[bodyfont](1) \showbodyfont[non-bodyfont] (2) and only (1) gets processed and displayed. Same question for \showbodyfontenvironment. Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O)
ConTeXt ver: 2008.07.10 08:40 MKIV fmt: 2008.7.10 int: english/english
See test.tex in attachement.
The following combinations give the following results after compiling with
texmfstart texexec --lua test.tex
---
(1) \definefont[myChapterFont][myHeadingsFont sa 1.728] % with
\setuphead[chapter][style=myChapterFont] % or
\setuphead[chapter][style=\myChapterFont] % or
\setuphead[chapter][style={\myChapterFont}]
generates the following compile error...
! Font \**myChapterFont**:=myHeadingsFont at 20.736pt not loadable: metric
data not found or bad.
to be read again
\relax
\dododefinefont ...ontspec {#2}\rawfontidentifier
\let
\localrelativefontsiz...
\dosetfontattribute ...me [EMAIL PROTECTED] \endcsname \fi
\empty
\doplaceheadnumbertext ...bute {\??ko #1}\c!style
\getvalue {\??ko
#1\c!comm...
\dodododoconstructhead ...{\finalsectionnumber }}}
\writesection
{#1}{#3}{#4}...
l.54 \chapter{chapter test}
?
! Emergency stop.
to be read again
\relax
\dododefinefont ...ontspec {#2}\rawfontidentifier
\let
\localrelativefontsiz...
\dosetfontattribute ...me [EMAIL PROTECTED] \endcsname \fi
\empty
\doplaceheadnumbertext ...bute {\??ko #1}\c!style
\getvalue {\??ko
#1\c!comm...
\dodododoconstructhead ...{\finalsectionnumber }}}
\writesection
{#1}{#3}{#4}...
l.54 \chapter{chapter test}
! == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
---
(2) \definefont[myChapterFont][Sans sa 1.728] % with
\setuphead[chapter][style=myChapterFont] % or
\setuphead[chapter][style=\myChapterFont] % or
\setuphead[chapter][style={\myChapterFont}]
displays the chapter heading with a scaled LMSans10-Regular font
---
(3) this displays the chapter heading font correctly
\setuphead[chapter][style={\tfc\myHeadingsFont}]
---
(4) \setuphead[chapter][style={\tfc\Sans}]
generates the following compile error...
! Undefined control sequence.
\@@kochapterstyle -\tfc \Sans
\doifdefinedelse #1-\edef \p!defined {#1
}\ifcsname \detokenize [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
{\p!def...
\doconvertfont #1-\doifdefinedelse [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ #1}
{\doifelsenothing
{#1}\go...
\dosetfontattribute ...me [EMAIL PROTECTED] \endcsname \fi
\empty
\doplaceheadnumbertext ...bute {\??ko #1}\c!style
\getvalue {\??ko
#1\c!comm...
\dodododoconstructhead ...{\finalsectionnumber }}}
\writesection
{#1}{#3}{#4}...
l.54 \chapter{chapter test}
?
! Emergency stop.
\@@kochapterstyle -\tfc \Sans
\doifdefinedelse #1-\edef \p!defined {#1
}\ifcsname \detokenize [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
{\p!def...
\doconvertfont #1-\doifdefinedelse [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ #1}
{\doifelsenothing
{#1}\go...
\dosetfontattribute ...me [EMAIL PROTECTED] \endcsname \fi
\empty
\doplaceheadnumbertext ...bute {\??ko #1}\c!style
\getvalue {\??ko
#1\c!comm...
\dodododoconstructhead ...{\finalsectionnumber }}}
\writesection
{#1}{#3}{#4}...
l.54 \chapter{chapter test}
! == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
---
How come ?
Alan
test.tex
Description: TeX document
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Re: [NTG-context] how to convert font size to pt number ?
Simple solutions from generous posters. Thanks all. I was too focussed on the switchtobodyfont command. Have a great weekend, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] how to convert font size to pt number ?
(1) \setupbodyfont[somebodyfont,12pt]
\definefont[chapterfont][somefont sa 1.728]
\setuphead[chapter][style=chapterfont]
gives a compile error at \chapter{chapter title} :
! Font \**chapterfont**:=somefont at 20.736pt not loadable: metric data not
found or bad
However
\setuphead[chapter][style=\tfc\somefont] works OK.
\setupbodyfont[somefont,12pt] also work OK, while
\setupbodyfont[chapterfont,12pt] defaults to LM font
Uh ?
(2) fc-list output extract
Times New
Roman:style=Regular,Normal,obyčejné,Standard,Κανονικά,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard,Normalny,Обычный,Normálne,Navadno,thường,Arrunta
Times New
Roman:style=Italic,cursiva,kurzíva,kursiv,Πλάγια,Kursivoitu,Italique,Dőlt,Corsivo,Cursief,kursywa,Itálico,Курсив,İtalik,Poševno,nghiêng,Etzana
Times New
Roman:style=Bold,Negreta,tučné,fed,Fett,Έντονα,Negrita,Lihavoitu,Gras,Félkövér,Grassetto,Vet,Halvfet,Pogrubiona,Negrito,Полужирный,Fet,Kalın,Krepko,đậm,Lodia
Times New Roman:style=Bold Italic,Negreta cursiva,tučné kurzíva,fed
kursiv,Fett Kursiv,Έντονα Πλάγια,Negrita Cursiva,Lihavoitu Kursivoi,Gras
Italique,Félkövér dőlt,Grassetto Corsivo,Vet Cursief,Halvfet
Kursiv,Pogrubiona kursywa,Negrito Itálico,Полужирный Курсив,Tučná
kurzíva,Fet Kursiv,Kalın İtalik,Krepko poševno,nghiêng đậm,Lodi etzana
With the following typescript
\starttypescript[serif][timesnewroman]
% --- MS TrueType Core Font ---
\definefontsynonym[Dummy][name:Times New Roman][features=default]
\definefontsynonym[DummyBold][name:Times New Roman
Bold][features=default]
\definefontsynonym[DummyItalic][name:Times New Roman
Italic][features=default]
\definefontsynonym[DummyBoldItalic][name:Times New Roman Bold
Italic][features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[serif][timesnewroman][name]
\definefontsynonym[Serif][Dummy][features=default]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBold][DummyBold][features=default]
\definefontsynonym[SerifItalic][DummyItalic][features=default]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic][DummyBoldItalic][features=default]
\definefontsynonym[SerifSlanted][DummyItalic][features=default]
\definefontsynonym[SerifIBoldSlanted][DummyBoldItalic][features=default]
\definefontsynonym[SerifCaps][Dummy][features=default]
\stoptypescript
\definetypeface[myBodyFont][rm][serif][timesnewroman][default]
\bf displays in bold italic (??) so something is wrong/missing. Seems to be
something with the style=... stuff. Fruitlessly searched the wiki and
mailing list archive.
Alan
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[NTG-context] how to convert font size to pt number ?
style={\switchtobodyfont[somefont,somefontsize]} digests font sizes
expressed in pt.
What's the command to convert font sizes ( for example \tfc ) to their
corresponding pt number ?
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] how to convert font size to pt number ?
Thanks for your quick response Aditya.
I've read that too and unfortunately don't find anything on that page that
answers my question.
Hmmm...
Either the question was not clear enough or I've been smoking the carpet...
:O)
Let's try to formulate it otherwise...
With somefont defined through \definetypeface[somefont][...]
style={\switchtobodyfont[somefont,huge]} gives a compile error,
only, for example, style={\switchtobodyfont[somefont,14pt]} works
like in \setuphead[chapter][style={\switchtobodyfont[somefont,14pt]}]
I don't want to manually input some pt size but, for example, the \tfc or
huge corresponding pt size.
Therefore I'm looking for
- the ConTeXtMagicCommand to convert
\ConTexTMagicCommand[\tfc or huge] to \tfc or huge size expressed in pt
or
- some other ConTeXtSuperMagic trick to display the chapter heading in
somefont and \tfc or huge size
I guess I could \chapter{\tfc chaptertitle}, however I'm looking for
something more generic so I only have to input chapter{chaptertitle}.
Cheers,
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex
saw that too... don't understand how that's possible because there are already files in that folder. Alan On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote: LuaTools | unable to save files in /opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/trees/5f7b9306dcbd6a966450acbb82901a81..tma a write access problem? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex
cleaned up ... i'll upload a beta Thanks a lot Hans. Where from will the beta be uploadable ? Alan On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hans Hagen wrote: Alan Stone wrote: are there really two dots there? ..tma Yes indeed Hans. that's weird, i'm stymied I'm not :) You got that from a bug in the warning message, not the actual file name. input.luasuffix= '.tma' input.report(unable to save %s in %s.%s,dataname,name,input.luasuffix) So that the string format reduces to (unable to save %s in %s..tma,dataname,name) ah, ok, cleaned up ... i'll upload a beta i now save as binary .. maybe it helps otherwise there's realy a write / permission problem in Alan's machine Hans ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex
Isn't downloading enough for you ;-) Apparently not. Guess I have a preference for up. ctxtools --updatecontext Passing on that one. Thanks anyway. Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex
Thanks Mojca. Updated.
Or is it downdated?
context --generate
LuaTools | variable SELFAUTOLOC set to /opt/context/tex/texmf-linux/bin
LuaTools | variable SELFAUTODIR set to /opt/context/tex/texmf-linux
LuaTools | variable SELFAUTOPARENT set to /opt/context/tex
LuaTools | variable TEXMFCNF set to $TEXROOT/texmf{-local,-context,}/web2c
LuaTools | loading /opt/context/tex/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
LuaTools | preparing configuration for /opt/context/tex/texmf/web2c
LuaTools | unable to save configuration in
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/trees/eafbbdaaf07ecf8142ecf5e1c693b318.lua
(access error)
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-project
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-fonts
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-local
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-linux
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-context
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-extra
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf
LuaTools | scanning path /opt/context/tex/texmf-linux
LuaTools | 88 files found on 9 directories with 0 uppercase remappings
LuaTools | scanning path /opt/context/tex/texmf-context
LuaTools | 1422 files found on 125 directories with 0 uppercase remappings
LuaTools | scanning path /opt/context/tex/texmf
LuaTools | 3411 files found on 112 directories with 207 uppercase remappings
LuaTools | preparing files for /opt/context/tex/texmf-context
LuaTools | unable to save files in
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/trees/5f7b9306dcbd6a966450acbb82901a81.lua
(access error)
LuaTools | preparing files for /opt/context/tex/texmf
LuaTools | unable to save files in
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/trees/3b345784234bafc7148851149a3f5528.lua
(access error)
LuaTools | preparing files for /opt/context/tex/texmf-linux
LuaTools | unable to save files in
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/trees/64fe47ca42a06b0d6010805018b4cbbc.lua
(access error)
LuaTools |
LuaTools | runtime: 0.110 seconds
MtxRun | running command: luatools --generate
MtxRun | total runtime: 0.178
Alan
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Mojca Miklavec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Alan Stone wrote:
cleaned up ... i'll upload a beta
Thanks a lot Hans.
Where from will the beta be uploadable ?
You said that you have minimals installed. Just run
./first-setup.sh --context=beta
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex
In a flash of extraordinary inspiration, ran the command in a terminal
window from root - instead of from scite and now it seems to have worked...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/context# context --generate
MtxRun | running command: luatools --generate
LuaTools | variable SELFAUTOLOC set to /opt/context/tex/texmf-linux/bin
LuaTools | variable SELFAUTODIR set to /opt/context/tex/texmf-linux
LuaTools | variable SELFAUTOPARENT set to /opt/context/tex
LuaTools | variable TEXMFCNF set to $TEXROOT/texmf{-local,-context,}/web2c
LuaTools | loading /opt/context/tex/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
LuaTools | preparing configuration for /opt/context/tex/texmf/web2c
LuaTools | configuration saved in
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/trees/eafbbdaaf07ecf8142ecf5e1c693b318.lua
LuaTools | configuration compiled to
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/trees/eafbbdaaf07ecf8142ecf5e1c693b318.luc
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-project
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-fonts
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-local
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-linux
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-context
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-extra
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf
LuaTools | scanning path /opt/context/tex/texmf-linux
LuaTools | 88 files found on 9 directories with 0 uppercase remappings
LuaTools | scanning path /opt/context/tex/texmf-context
LuaTools | 1422 files found on 125 directories with 0 uppercase remappings
LuaTools | scanning path /opt/context/tex/texmf
LuaTools | 3411 files found on 112 directories with 207 uppercase remappings
LuaTools | preparing files for /opt/context/tex/texmf-context
LuaTools | files saved in
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/trees/5f7b9306dcbd6a966450acbb82901a81.lua
LuaTools | files compiled to
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/trees/5f7b9306dcbd6a966450acbb82901a81.luc
LuaTools | preparing files for /opt/context/tex/texmf
LuaTools | files saved in
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/trees/3b345784234bafc7148851149a3f5528.lua
LuaTools | files compiled to
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/trees/3b345784234bafc7148851149a3f5528.luc
LuaTools | preparing files for /opt/context/tex/texmf-linux
LuaTools | files saved in
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/trees/64fe47ca42a06b0d6010805018b4cbbc.lua
LuaTools | files compiled to
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/trees/64fe47ca42a06b0d6010805018b4cbbc.luc
LuaTools |
LuaTools | runtime: 0.358 seconds
MtxRun | total runtime: 0.461
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/context# mtxrun --script font --reload
fontnames | identifying tree font files with suffix otf
fontnames | 161 tree files identified, 482 hash entries added, runtime 1.159
seconds
fontnames | identifying tree font files with suffix ttf
fontnames | 192 tree files identified, 559 hash entries added, runtime 2.173
seconds
fontnames | identifying tree font files with suffix ttc
fontnames | 0 tree files identified, 0 hash entries added, runtime 0.066
seconds
fontnames | identifying tree font files with suffix afm
fontnames | 69 tree files identified, 148 hash entries added, runtime 0.337
seconds
fontnames | identifying system font files with suffix otf
fontnames | 0 system files identified, 0 hash entries added, runtime 0.001
seconds
fontnames | identifying system font files with suffix ttf
fontnames | 0 system files identified, 0 hash entries added, runtime 0.000
seconds
fontnames | identifying system font files with suffix ttc
fontnames | 0 system files identified, 0 hash entries added, runtime 0.000
seconds
fontnames | identifying system font files with suffix afm
fontnames | 0 system files identified, 0 hash entries added, runtime 0.000
seconds
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex
Wow, now I can mindread too...
What's with sudo ...
Received your message just after doing that. Thanks.
SpookyTeX!
Alan
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Wolfgang Schuster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Alan Stone
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Mojca. Updated.
Or is it downdated?
archive: https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ ;-)
context --generate
LuaTools | variable SELFAUTOLOC set to /opt/context/tex/texmf-linux/bin
LuaTools | variable SELFAUTODIR set to /opt/context/tex/texmf-linux
LuaTools | variable SELFAUTOPARENT set to /opt/context/tex
LuaTools | variable TEXMFCNF set to
$TEXROOT/texmf{-local,-context,}/web2c
LuaTools | loading /opt/context/tex/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
LuaTools | preparing configuration for /opt/context/tex/texmf/web2c
LuaTools | unable to save configuration in
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/trees/eafbbdaaf07ecf8142ecf5e1c693b318.lua
(access error)
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-project
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-fonts
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-local
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-linux
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-context
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf-extra
LuaTools | locating list of /opt/context/tex/texmf
LuaTools | scanning path /opt/context/tex/texmf-linux
LuaTools | 88 files found on 9 directories with 0 uppercase remappings
LuaTools | scanning path /opt/context/tex/texmf-context
LuaTools | 1422 files found on 125 directories with 0 uppercase
remappings
LuaTools | scanning path /opt/context/tex/texmf
LuaTools | 3411 files found on 112 directories with 207 uppercase
remappings
LuaTools | preparing files for /opt/context/tex/texmf-context
LuaTools | unable to save files in
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/trees/5f7b9306dcbd6a966450acbb82901a81.lua
(access error)
LuaTools | preparing files for /opt/context/tex/texmf
LuaTools | unable to save files in
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/trees/3b345784234bafc7148851149a3f5528.lua
(access error)
LuaTools | preparing files for /opt/context/tex/texmf-linux
LuaTools | unable to save files in
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/9d2177de8a31df158f21be632b7742b7/trees/64fe47ca42a06b0d6010805018b4cbbc.lua
(access error)
LuaTools |
LuaTools | runtime: 0.110 seconds
MtxRun | running command: luatools --generate
MtxRun | total runtime: 0.178
No rights to write to /opt/... with your current user. What's with sudo ...
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex
Though that's strange... fontnames | identifying system font files with suffix otf fontnames | 0 system files identified, 0 hash entries added, runtime 0.001 seconds fontnames | identifying system font files with suffix ttf fontnames | 0 system files identified, 0 hash entries added, runtime 0.000 seconds fontnames | identifying system font files with suffix ttc fontnames | 0 system files identified, 0 hash entries added, runtime 0.000 seconds fontnames | identifying system font files with suffix afm fontnames | 0 system files identified, 0 hash entries added, runtime 0.000 seconds Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex
Despite all the above, when compiling with texmfstart texexec --lua test.tex with test.tex containing \usetypescript[verdana] \setupbodyfont[verdana,12pt] or \definetypeface[Times][rm][Xserif][Times New Roman] \setupbodyfont[Times,12pt] the generated pdfs embed LMRoman font instead, while both fonts are present in /opt/context/tex/texmf/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts What's missing ? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex
Thanks Mojca. you need to define all the fonts manually in LuaTeX (dummy job; should be simplified one day). Would be most welcome indeed. Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
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are there really two dots there? ..tma Yes indeed Hans. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
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that's weird, i'm stymied How about a name change... WeirdoTeX seems rather appropriate? ;O) All jokes aside... What's the solution ? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex
Had a look at the former context windows installation. When firing up scite the output window mentions loading scite-ctx.lua definition file. In ubuntu the scite output window informs attempt to call a string value Lua: error occurred while loading startup script Didn't give much attention to that one previously. Don't know whether that's the cause of the problem. Nevertheless, any idea how to set this straight ? Alan On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's weird, i'm stymied How about a name change... WeirdoTeX seems rather appropriate? ;O) All jokes aside... What's the solution ? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] fonts with luatex
regenerated the cache Excuse me my ignorance... what do you mean by that Arthur ? Alan On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Arthur Reutenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are there really two dots there? ..tma Yes indeed Hans. that's weird, i'm stymied I saw that once, too, but regenerated the cache and didn't bother too much. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
