Re: [NTG-context] alternative numerical \cite command
On Tue, 5 May 2015 12:52:41 +0200 Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.hu wrote: Thanks. But there's no any indication in the log file of using mkII, unless mkiv uses the same code. All \cite[alternative][key] variants work for me except the \cite[textnum][key] variant. See the attached example tex file with its pdf output and log file. \setupbibtex and \setuppublications pull-in the MKII code. Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] alternative numerical \cite command
Alan BRASLAU írta: On Tue, 5 May 2015 12:52:41 +0200 Csikos Bela wrote: Thanks. But there's no any indication in the log file of using mkII, unless mkiv uses the same code. All \cite[alternative][key] variants work for me except the \cite[textnum][key] variant. See the attached example tex file with its pdf output and log file. \setupbibtex and \setuppublications pull-in the MKII code. I am puzzled a little bit. I also tried to use \setuppublicationlist[pagenumber=yes], which had no effect on the output. I found related to this the followings: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/94023/context-how-to-set-up-interaction-mode-to-emulate-hyperref http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2011/061528.html Based on these, in my understanding the bug affects mkiv and mkii should work. So, if I use mkii code (pulled by \setuppublications), why pagenumber=yes doesn't work for me? Or it doesn't work in mkii either? Thanks, bcsikos ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] alternative numerical \cite command
Alan BRASLAU írta:
On Mon, 4 May 2015 17:54:31 +0200
Csikos Bela wrote:
I could set up superscript citation for numerical citation based on
contextgarden bibliography page example.
A MKII hack...
Let me understand, though.
Do you want to mix\high{1} citations with [1] citations?
That would be rather strange, stylistically.
Yes, but in tables I don't want to put superscript citations.
OK, thanks for explaining this use.
There is a predefined second num cite variant \cite[textnum][tag].
It's use is intended to produce something like ref. 1, to be used
syntactically in a sentence, in conjunction with standard num
references. [1] This is just num setup with
[left={ref.\nbsp},right=].
I guess this command would fit my needs after some editing.
Unfortunately my context version doesn't have this command.
Using \cite[textnum][tag] simply outputs [tag].
Either I should update my context to newer (beta?), which I don't
know how to do, or define the command in the document. I'd prefer the
latter one, if feasible.
You are using the MKII code. It takes the syntax
\cite[alternative]{key} which is very intolerant of spacing
and the newer module has abandoned this LaTeX style in favor of
\cite[key] and \cite[alternative][key]
I recommend that you stick with the MKII module/code for now as we have
not yet entirely stabilized the new dataset code.
Thanks. But there's no any indication in the log file of using mkII, unless
mkiv uses the same code. All \cite[alternative][key] variants work for me
except the \cite[textnum][key]
variant. See the attached example tex file with its pdf output and log file.
My question still is how I could define an alternative \cite command for
numerical citations,
e.g. \cite[textnum].
Thanks,
bcsikos
cite.tex
Description: TeX document
cite.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
cite.log
Description: Binary data
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[NTG-context] alternative numerical \cite command
Hello list members: For inserting citations ConTeXt offers several \cite command alternatives. If I understand correctly citations can be inserted like: \cite[key], when the document's default cite type is used, or: \cite[authoryear][key], \cite[author][key] etc., where the citation style is set by the first option. These citation styles are predefined in context. What I would like to do is inserting alternative numerical citations: normal superscript citations, like this^1, and occasionally inline citations in brackets, like this one [2]. How could I define alternative numerical citation style, e.g. \cite[inum][key] on the analogy of author, authoryear etc. styles? Thanks, bcsikos ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] alternative numerical \cite command
On Mon, 4 May 2015 15:10:06 +0200
Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.hu wrote:
These citation styles are predefined in context.
What I would like to do is inserting alternative numerical citations:
normal superscript citations, like this^1, and occasionally inline
citations in brackets, like this one [2]. How could I define
alternative numerical citation style, e.g. \cite[inum][key] on the
analogy of author, authoryear etc. styles?
mkiv-bibliographies (not the mkii publications module).
The citation styles can be tuned through parameters, i.e.
\setupbtx
[cite:numbering:num]
[left=,
right=,
command={\high}]
but in the latest beta, this way of switching to superscript citations
is currently broken, I noticed, (and will be fixed).
Let me understand, though.
Do you want to mix\high{1} citations with [1] citations?
That would be rather strange, stylistically.
There is a predefined second num cite variant \cite[textnum][tag]. It's
use is intended to produce something like ref. 1, to be used
syntactically in a sentence, in conjunction with standard num
references. [1] This is just num setup with [left={ref.\nbsp},right=].
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] alternative numerical \cite command
Hi Alan,
Excuse-me to jump over a discussion related to the new bibliography features of
mkiv, but is it now reasonably stable to swithch completely from mkii to mkiv
(I still have some files in mkii which I use only because of the bibliography
features I have set up on purpose).
And where can one find an elementary introduction to the new bibliography
features?
Thanks in advance, and best regards: OK
On 04 May 2015, at 15:51, Alan BRASLAU alan.bras...@cea.fr wrote:
On Mon, 4 May 2015 15:10:06 +0200
Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.hu wrote:
These citation styles are predefined in context.
What I would like to do is inserting alternative numerical citations:
normal superscript citations, like this^1, and occasionally inline
citations in brackets, like this one [2]. How could I define
alternative numerical citation style, e.g. \cite[inum][key] on the
analogy of author, authoryear etc. styles?
mkiv-bibliographies (not the mkii publications module).
The citation styles can be tuned through parameters, i.e.
\setupbtx
[cite:numbering:num]
[left=,
right=,
command={\high}]
but in the latest beta, this way of switching to superscript citations
is currently broken, I noticed, (and will be fixed).
Let me understand, though.
Do you want to mix\high{1} citations with [1] citations?
That would be rather strange, stylistically.
There is a predefined second num cite variant \cite[textnum][tag]. It's
use is intended to produce something like ref. 1, to be used
syntactically in a sentence, in conjunction with standard num
references. [1] This is just num setup with [left={ref.\nbsp},right=].
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] alternative numerical \cite command
Alan BRASLAU írta:
On Mon, 4 May 2015 15:10:06 +0200
Csikos Bela wrote:
These citation styles are predefined in context.
What I would like to do is inserting alternative numerical citations:
normal superscript citations, like this^1, and occasionally inline
citations in brackets, like this one [2]. How could I define
alternative numerical citation style, e.g. \cite[inum][key] on the
analogy of author, authoryear etc. styles?
mkiv-bibliographies (not the mkii publications module).
The citation styles can be tuned through parameters, i.e.
\setupbtx
[cite:numbering:num]
[left=,
right=,
command={\high}]
but in the latest beta, this way of switching to superscript citations
is currently broken, I noticed, (and will be fixed).
My context version is:
ConTeXt ver: 2014.01.03 00:40 MKIV current fmt: 2015.4.1 int: english/english
I could set up superscript citation for numerical citation based on
contextgarden
bibliography page example.
Let me understand, though.
Do you want to mix\high{1} citations with [1] citations?
That would be rather strange, stylistically.
Yes, but in tables I don't want to put superscript citations.
There is a predefined second num cite variant \cite[textnum][tag]. It's
use is intended to produce something like ref. 1, to be used
syntactically in a sentence, in conjunction with standard num
references. [1] This is just num setup with [left={ref.\nbsp},right=].
I guess this command would fit my needs after some editing.
Unfortunately my context version doesn't have this command.
Using \cite[textnum][tag] simply outputs [tag].
Either I should update my context to newer (beta?), which I don't know how to
do,
or define the command in the document. I'd prefer the latter one, if feasible.
Thanks,
bcsikos
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Re: [NTG-context] alternative numerical \cite command
On Mon, 4 May 2015 17:54:31 +0200
Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.hu wrote:
I could set up superscript citation for numerical citation based on
contextgarden bibliography page example.
A MKII hack...
Let me understand, though.
Do you want to mix\high{1} citations with [1] citations?
That would be rather strange, stylistically.
Yes, but in tables I don't want to put superscript citations.
OK, thanks for explaining this use.
There is a predefined second num cite variant \cite[textnum][tag].
It's use is intended to produce something like ref. 1, to be used
syntactically in a sentence, in conjunction with standard num
references. [1] This is just num setup with
[left={ref.\nbsp},right=].
I guess this command would fit my needs after some editing.
Unfortunately my context version doesn't have this command.
Using \cite[textnum][tag] simply outputs [tag].
Either I should update my context to newer (beta?), which I don't
know how to do, or define the command in the document. I'd prefer the
latter one, if feasible.
You are using the MKII code. It takes the syntax
\cite[alternative]{key} which is very intolerant of spacing
and the newer module has abandoned this LaTeX style in favor of
\cite[key] and \cite[alternative][key]
I recommend that you stick with the MKII module/code for now as we have
not yet entirely stabilized the new dataset code.
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] alternative numerical \cite command
On 05/04/2015 06:14 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
You are using the MKII code. It takes the syntax
\cite[alternative]{key} which is very intolerant of spacing
and the newer module has abandoned this LaTeX style in favor of
\cite[key] and \cite[alternative][key]
No, that's not quite right, the syntax has always been
\cite[alternative][key]. For the rest: what Alan said! The new code is
not quite production ready, and if you're using mkii, switching in the
midst of a project is a bit risky, to say the least.
Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] alternative numerical \cite command
Thanks to remarks by Mojca and Alan, I did some testing with mkiv and my old setups for bibliography under mkii, and magically it works also with the new bibliography features of mkiv, that is without saying \usemodule[bib]. However somehow I couldn’t find an equivalent for the command \placepublications[criterirum=all] when one needs to give another title to the section containing the bibliography (as in the attached file). As I understand from Alan’s and Thomas Schmitz’ answers, the new bibliography features are not yet completely « production ready » for those people who need complex requirements (this is not my case…). However it would be nice if the new commands were made known somewhere, even without having a detailed manual (some people use quite elementary features and probably those may be obtained in less than ten commands…). Best regards: OK test-biblio-for-mkiv.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document test-biblio-for-mkiv.tex Description: Binary data ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] alternative numerical \cite command
On 05/04/2015 07:03 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: Thanks to remarks by Mojca and Alan, I did some testing with mkiv and my old setups for bibliography under mkii, and magically it works also with the new bibliography features of mkiv, that is without saying \usemodule[bib]. However somehow I couldn’t find an equivalent for the command \placepublications[criterirum=all] when one needs to give another title to the section containing the bibliography (as in the attached file). As I understand from Alan’s and Thomas Schmitz’ answers, the new bibliography features are not yet completely « production ready » for those people who need complex requirements (this is not my case…). However it would be nice if the new commands were made known somewhere, even without having a detailed manual (some people use quite elementary features and probably those may be obtained in less than ten commands…). Best regards: OK The example you provide is with an intermediate state: at one point, Hans simply ported (most of) the functionality of the bib module to mkiv. The new commands have \btx in their names; they are written from scratch and use lua instead of bibtex. And please take my word for it: the user interface really isn't stable enough yet, even for some quite elementary cases. When things have settled down, it will be announced. (If you're really impatient, you cam have a look at the publ-imp-* files in the latest betas). Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
