[NTG-context] installing mkiv
Hallo, I tried to install a mkiv-only context with: first-setup --context=luatex but there is no texmf-context folder. What I am doing wrong? Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing mkiv
Am 22.10.2011 um 19:59 schrieb Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini: Hallo, I tried to install a mkiv-only context with: first-setup --context=luatex but there is no texmf-context folder. What I am doing wrong? It’s “first-setup.sh --engine=luatex”. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Installing MKiv
Le 12 août à 22:45:00 luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment: | | I'm certainly missing something obvious? | hmm maybe mktexlsr | 5a/ mktexlsr ; luatools --generate | 6/ texmfstart texexec --make --all --pdftex | 7/ texmfstart texexec --make --all --luatoolss did you mean luatex here ^ ? Hm, no more joy here :-( thx anyway -- jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Installing MKiv
Le 12 août à 21:45:09 Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment: | anyhow, tomorrow there will be a new release of luatex (some font fixes) | and i'll generate new minimals then I'll look forward to that, thx -- jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Installing MKiv
On 8/13/07, Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 12 août à 22:45:00 luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment: | | I'm certainly missing something obvious? | hmm maybe mktexlsr | 5a/ mktexlsr ; luatools --generate | 6/ texmfstart texexec --make --all --pdftex | 7/ texmfstart texexec --make --all --luatoolss did you mean luatex here ^ ? yes Hm, no more joy here :-( thx anyway -- jean ok, with next release (coming soon, I believe) I will carefully write down all steps. If you want to make a last try give a look at http://luatex.bluwiki.com/go/User:Luigi.scarso -- luigi If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Installing MKiv
Le 13 août à 01:54:50 Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment: | The only way I got it to stop was by initializing the setuptex script | BEFORE opening my editor. If I initialize setuptex afterwards it does not | work. Actually I'm not within an editor, just in the shell, typing texmfstart texexec test.tex Thx, -- jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Installing MKiv
Le 13 août à 08:28:13 luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment: | ok, with next release (coming soon, I believe) I will carefully write | down all steps. | If you want to make a last try give a look at | http://luatex.bluwiki.com/go/User:Luigi.scarso last try following the wiki; I get a lot of messages like this: Missing script file sh: luac: command not found LuaTools | compiling files to /5662e38911d8bbd6bbfe8f2fa42911c4.tmc LuaTools | compiling failed for files, deleting file /5662e38911d8bbd6bbfe8f2fa42911c4.tmc (right now I still have the standard luatex) -- jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Installing MKiv
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:06:02 -0600, Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 13 août à 01:54:50 Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment: | The only way I got it to stop was by initializing the setuptex script | BEFORE opening my editor. If I initialize setuptex afterwards it does not | work. Actually I'm not within an editor, just in the shell, typing texmfstart texexec test.tex That was exectly my point. If I said, from the prompt, setuptex c:\context\tex texmfstart texexec test.tex I get the same message you got.* When I initialize my editor first (see the cscite script that somes with the larger versions of the distribution), then I can launch a console or shell from the editor and it works. Try launching your shell by appropriately modifying the cscite shell script. Here it is to save you trouble. = # author: Hans Hagen - PRAGMA ADE - Hasselt NL - www.pragma-ade.com OWNPATH=$PWD $OWNPATH/tex/setuptex $OWNPATH/tex texmfstart exaserver.rb --start --port=8061 --ipurl $OWNPATH/scite/lscite/scite = Now on Windows the script is quite different, and longer, but once I setup my launch application (notepad++ in this case) mkiv worked fine. I don't pretend to understand why. Best wishes Idris * The thing about that error is that, when I run texmfstart texexec test.tex mkiv creates another cache tree and ignores the one where it built the formats. I -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Installing MKiv
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: Le 13 août à 08:28:13 luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment: | ok, with next release (coming soon, I believe) I will carefully write | down all steps. | If you want to make a last try give a look at | http://luatex.bluwiki.com/go/User:Luigi.scarso last try following the wiki; I get a lot of messages like this: Missing script file sh: luac: command not found LuaTools | compiling files to /5662e38911d8bbd6bbfe8f2fa42911c4.tmc LuaTools | compiling failed for files, deleting file /5662e38911d8bbd6bbfe8f2fa42911c4.tmc (right now I still have the standard luatex) AFAIU, this is ok. luac is a file for compiling lua code into byte code so that it runs faster. You need to install lua to get luac. If you do not have luac, the program will run slightly slower, but other than that, everything will be fine. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Installing MKiv
Le 13 août à 14:43:11 Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment: | On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:06:02 -0600, Jean Magnan de Bornier | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Le 13 août à 01:54:50 Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit | notamment: | | | The only way I got it to stop was by initializing the setuptex script | | BEFORE opening my editor. If I initialize setuptex afterwards it does | not | | work. | | Actually I'm not within an editor, just in the shell, typing texmfstart | texexec test.tex | That was exectly my point. If I said, from the prompt, | setuptex c:\context\tex | texmfstart texexec test.tex | I get the same message you got.* When I initialize my editor first | (see the cscite script that somes with the larger versions of the | distribution), then I can launch a console or shell from the editor and it | works. | Try launching your shell by appropriately modifying the cscite shell | script. Here it is to save you trouble. | = | # author: Hans Hagen - PRAGMA ADE - Hasselt NL - www.pragma-ade.com | OWNPATH=$PWD | $OWNPATH/tex/setuptex $OWNPATH/tex | texmfstart exaserver.rb --start --port=8061 --ipurl | $OWNPATH/scite/lscite/scite | = Sorry, I had not understood you; I don't use scite, is it problem with luatex? -- Jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Installing MKiv
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:14:28 -0600, Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I had not understood you; I don't use scite, is it problem with luatex? It is a problem with the caching method used by luatex, as far as I can tell. Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Installing MKiv
Hi all, Following nice reports I read on the list as well as the mag-12 instructions I installed a context minimal linux distribution and lua-5.1.2. After everything seemed ok I lauch a compilation of this test-file (found on the wiki): % engine=luatex \starttext Hello from luatex \blank LUA \startlua a = 1.5 b = 1.8 c = a*b tex.print(c) \stoplua \stoptext But no pdf file appears, and here are some (hopefully) relevant parts of the compilation message: TeXExec | unable to fix backend map path TeXExec | running: luatools --fmt=cont-en test.tex LuaTools | using format name /cont-en.fmt LuaTools | no luc/lua with name /cont-en LuaTools | LuaTools | runtime: 0.09 seconds TeXUtil | unable to locate test.tui I do have cont-en.luc and cont-en.lua! tia -- Jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Installing MKiv
Hi all, Following nice reports I read on the list as well as the mag-12 instructions I installed a context minimal linux distribution and lua-5.1.2. hmm, try http://www.lua.org/ftp/lua-5.1.tar.gz % engine=luatex \starttext Hello from luatex \blank LUA \startlua a = 1.5 b = 1.8 c = a*b tex.print(c) \stoplua \stoptext on a linux box $texmfstart texexec --pdf test.tex compile well. Are you under linux ? -- luigi If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Installing MKiv
Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: Hi all, Following nice reports I read on the list as well as the mag-12 instructions I installed a context minimal linux distribution and lua-5.1.2. After everything seemed ok I lauch a compilation of this test-file (found on the wiki): % engine=luatex \starttext Hello from luatex \blank LUA \startlua a = 1.5 b = 1.8 c = a*b tex.print(c) \stoplua \stoptext But no pdf file appears, and here are some (hopefully) relevant parts of the compilation message: TeXExec | unable to fix backend map path TeXExec | running: luatools --fmt=cont-en test.tex LuaTools | using format name /cont-en.fmt LuaTools | no luc/lua with name /cont-en can you try with set TEXMFCACHE=c:\temp (remake formats) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Installing MKiv
luigi wrote: | Hi all, Following nice reports I read on the list as well as the mag-12 | instructions I installed a context minimal linux distribution and | lua-5.1.2. | hmm, try | http://www.lua.org/ftp/lua-5.1.tar.gz | % engine=luatex | \starttext | Hello from luatex | \blank | LUA | \startlua | a = 1.5 | b = 1.8 | c = a*b | tex.print(c) | \stoplua | \stoptext | on a linux box | $texmfstart texexec --pdf test.tex | compile well. | Are you under linux ? Yes, I ought to have said that first!! Now here is what I tried just now: 1/ reinstall lua by hand 2/ remove everything in /usr/local context, and unzip again justtex and linuxtex 3/ rename /usr/local/texlive to some name unknown from my path (surely wasn't necessary, but let's try anything...) 4/ edit setuptex and defined $TMP and $TEXMFCACHE there 5/ . setuptex 6/ texexec --make --all --pdftex 7 /texexec --make --all --xetex 8/ texexec --make --all --luatex 9/ luatools --generate 10/ luatools --ini --compile --verbose cont-en And again, context complains the same way: TeXExec | unable to fix backend map path TeXExec | running: luatools --fmt=cont-en test.tex LuaTools | using format name /tmp/luatex-cache/context/formats/cont-en.fmt LuaTools | no luc/lua with name /tmp/luatex-cache/context/formats/cont-en LuaTools | LuaTools | runtime: 0.12 seconds TeXUtil | unable to locate test.tui actually then, even pdftex is broken! I'm certainly missing something obvious? -- Jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Installing MKiv
Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: actually then, even pdftex is broken! weird anyhow, tomorrow there will be a new release of luatex (some font fixes) and i'll generate new minimals then Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Installing MKiv
On 8/12/07, Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: luigi wrote: | Hi all, Following nice reports I read on the list as well as the mag-12 | instructions I installed a context minimal linux distribution and | lua-5.1.2. | hmm, try | http://www.lua.org/ftp/lua-5.1.tar.gz | % engine=luatex | \starttext | Hello from luatex | \blank | LUA | \startlua | a = 1.5 | b = 1.8 | c = a*b | tex.print(c) | \stoplua | \stoptext | on a linux box | $texmfstart texexec --pdf test.tex | compile well. | Are you under linux ? Yes, I ought to have said that first!! Now here is what I tried just now: 1/ reinstall lua by hand 2/ remove everything in /usr/local context, and unzip again justtex and linuxtex 3/ rename /usr/local/texlive to some name unknown from my path (surely wasn't necessary, but let's try anything...) 4/ edit setuptex and defined $TMP and $TEXMFCACHE there 5/ . setuptex 6/ texexec --make --all --pdftex 7 /texexec --make --all --xetex 8/ texexec --make --all --luatex 9/ luatools --generate 10/ luatools --ini --compile --verbose cont-en And again, context complains the same way: TeXExec | unable to fix backend map path TeXExec | running: luatools --fmt=cont-en test.tex LuaTools | using format name /tmp/luatex-cache/context/formats/cont-en.fmt LuaTools | no luc/lua with name /tmp/luatex-cache/context/formats/cont-en LuaTools | LuaTools | runtime: 0.12 seconds TeXUtil | unable to locate test.tui actually then, even pdftex is broken! I'm certainly missing something obvious? hmm maybe mktexlsr 5a/ mktexlsr ; luatools --generate 6/ texmfstart texexec --make --all --pdftex 7/ texmfstart texexec --make --all --luatoolss -- luigi If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Installing MKiv
Hi Jean, On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:21:17 -0600, Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LuaTools | using format name /tmp/luatex-cache/context/formats/cont-en.fmt LuaTools | no luc/lua with name /tmp/luatex-cache/context/formats/cont-en LuaTools | LuaTools | runtime: 0.12 seconds TeXUtil | unable to locate test.tui I've gotten this same mesasge on windows when I first installed mkiv. There is something screwy going on... The only way I got it to stop was by initializing the setuptex script BEFORE opening my editor. If I initialize setuptex afterwards it does not work. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
Friday, August 10, 2007 Taco Hoekwater wrote: Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Actually, /usr/bin/luatex --luaonly could be used as shebang. It doesn't work on all systems, but it should work on most modern installations. Yes, but #!/usr/bin/env luatex --luaonly is much less portable, and tex-related binaries are hardly ever in fixed locations. Oh right, env. Well, it works on my system even with env, but I know, I'm just lucky :) -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Wednesday, August 8, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote: has to do with unix where the shebang line will only work with texlua since luatex --luaonly cannot be given, but there it's a symlink Actually, /usr/bin/luatex --luaonly could be used as shebang. It doesn't work on all systems, but it should work on most modern installations. Yes, but #!/usr/bin/env luatex --luaonly is much less portable, and tex-related binaries are hardly ever in fixed locations. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
On 8/8/07, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you don't even need lua anymore. i see. but on windows you waste more than 7mb disk space this way. installing the lua binaries costs only 288kb. so where is the benefit? - no need to install anything else (no huge ruby/perl or whatever) - bytcode compiler in sync with luatex internals - texlua has the libs that we need built in it's just that i don't see the need for three identical files, when you can use one with different (mode switching) parameters. yes, i know. it's an early beta. If you're concerned about the the 7 MB -- or in my case, not sure you'll remember to update all three files at once -- and you're on a machine with NTFS, you can create hard links. --Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
Joel C. Salomon schrieb: On 8/8/07, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you don't even need lua anymore. i see. but on windows you waste more than 7mb disk space this way. installing the lua binaries costs only 288kb. so where is the benefit? - no need to install anything else (no huge ruby/perl or whatever) - bytcode compiler in sync with luatex internals - texlua has the libs that we need built in it's just that i don't see the need for three identical files, when you can use one with different (mode switching) parameters. yes, i know. it's an early beta. If you're concerned about the the 7 MB -- or in my case, not sure you'll remember to update all three files at once -- and you're on a machine with NTFS, you can create hard links. Hi Joel, I don't think that there will be mulitple copies anymore. And you are right: you can use hard links (NTFS only, so this is no general solution) on Windows XP: fsutil hardlink create new file name old file name In comparison to the symlinks that I created with 'junction', these links are found. Thanks for the pointer. Best, Peter --Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] installing MKIV
Hello, Installing MKIV as described in This Way magazine is somewhat tricky. But first of all, I cannot get LuaTEX! When I try to download win32 binaries from liatex.org, I get 404 Error - Bestand niet gevonden! And just for curioisty, where such names as Mark II and Mark IV come from? -- Best regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
On 8/8/07, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Installing MKIV as described in This Way magazine is somewhat tricky. But first of all, I cannot get LuaTEX! When I try to download win32 binaries from liatex.org, I get 404 Error - Bestand niet gevonden! maybe www.luatex.org but see pragma site or mirror, it's better and wiki.contextgarden.net/Mark_IV And just for curioisty, where such names as Mark II and Mark IV come from? ..from outer space ? http://wiki.contextgarden.net/images/0/0e/MKIV.avi -- luigi If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
luigi scarso wrote: On 8/8/07, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Installing MKIV as described in This Way magazine is somewhat tricky. But first of all, I cannot get LuaTEX! When I try to download win32 binaries from liatex.org, I get 404 Error - Bestand niet gevonden! maybe www.luatex.org Hans is working on the site at the moment, so those links do not work yet. If you want the luatex binary only, go to http://foundry.supelec.fr/frs/?group_id=10 but see pragma site or mirror, it's better but this is probably a better idea, since otherwise you have to update context separately. Best wishes, Taco and wiki.contextgarden.net/Mark_IV And just for curioisty, where such names as Mark II and Mark IV come from? ..from outer space ? http://wiki.contextgarden.net/images/0/0e/MKIV.avi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
Installing MKIV as described in This Way magazine is somewhat tricky. But first of all, I cannot get LuaTEX! luatex.org is still under development; you should be able to download it soon. Alternatively, you should get the exact same binary at the GForge server at supelec.fr (http://foundry.supelec.fr/frs/?group_id=10), and you can try the minimal mswintex.zip distribution from the Pragma site (http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm). And just for curioisty, where such names as Mark II and Mark IV come from? They are simply numbers for the different TeX engines ... Hans dismissed 1, deeming we were already beyond that stage (but it could be traditional TeX, producing only DVI). Appart from that, we have: 2: pdfTeX 3: XeTeX (Mark III is much less spoken about, but is also very active ;-) 4: LuaTeX -- Best regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky You know, I've been reading your name a lot of times as you've written quite a few mails to the list, but it's the first time I realize that you actually have the same name as the great Polish TeX old timer and font developer, Bogusław Jackowski. Of course the Polish spelling is a bit different, but it's nevertheless the exact same name. I guess the Russian spelling is Яцковский? Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
They are simply numbers for the different TeX engines ... Hans dismissed 1, deeming we were already beyond that stage (but it could be traditional TeX, producing only DVI). Appart from that, we have: One (1) was the original low-level dutch version. Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
Hello luigi, thanks. I meant www.luatex.org, really. It drops that error when I try do download win32 release. Where luatex is located in PRAGMA? I see only cont-tfm.zip. I use TeXLive, so only luatex binaries I'm missing now. And just for curioisty, where such names as Mark II and Mark IV come from? ..from outer space ? http://wiki.contextgarden.net/images/0/0e/MKIV.avi :))) -- Best regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
I meant www.luatex.org, really. It drops that error when I try do download win32 release. The binaries have been available there only very recently, so most people aren't yet aware of it. Where luatex is located in PRAGMA? I see only cont-tfm.zip. I use TeXLive, so only luatex binaries I'm missing now. In the minimal distribution (mswintex.zip for Windows, linuxtex.zip etc ...). ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
Hello Taco, I'm installing luatex according to 'This Way'. On the last step, when generating format files, I get the following: C:\TeXLive2007\bin\win32luatools --generate log 'texluac' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. 'luac' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. 'texluac' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. 'luac' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. I can provide any additional info. -- Best regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
Hello Arthur, Yes, I've got that mail in the list. I was surprised too when occassionally found my namesake in the TeX community. I'm pleased that he is great! But I don't know Boguslaw personally and even don't have (known) relatives in Poland. So, Yatskovskie are prone to TeX. :) -- Best regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky schrieb: Hello Taco, I'm installing luatex according to 'This Way'. On the last step, when generating format files, I get the following: C:\TeXLive2007\bin\win32luatools --generate log 'texluac' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. 'luac' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. 'texluac' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. 'luac' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. I can provide any additional info. i assume that you have installed the lua5.1 binaries and that they are in the $PATH. then simply remove the version number from the lua binaries. luac5.1.exe [TO] luac.exe etc. on other file systems you have symbolic links for this luac -- luac5.1 giving you the freedom to use several different versions in the same directory. if someone knows a better way on windows, please let me know. hth, peter ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
Hello Peter, i assume that you have installed the lua5.1 binaries and that they are in the $PATH. Ha, I didn't install Lua at all. I assumed that it has already been integrated everywhere. :) -- Best regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
luac5.1.exe [TO] luac.exe etc. Alternatively, you can use LuaTeX itself as the lua interpreter and compiler. That is, the same binary will act as: LuaTeX proper when called luatex(.exe) lua when called texlua(.exe) (equivalent to luatex --luaonly) luac, the compiler, when called texluac.(exe) So you don't even need lua anymore. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
Arthur Reutenauer schrieb: luac5.1.exe [TO] luac.exe etc. Alternatively, you can use LuaTeX itself as the lua interpreter and compiler. That is, the same binary will act as: LuaTeX proper when called luatex(.exe) lua when called texlua(.exe) (equivalent to luatex --luaonly) luac, the compiler, when called texluac.(exe) So you don't even need lua anymore. i see. but on windows you waste more than 7mb disk space this way. installing the lua binaries costs only 288kb. so where is the benefit? there must be a better way. peter ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
And just for curioisty, where such names as Mark II and Mark IV come from?
% engine=luatex language=uk
\startcomponent mk-iitoiv
\environment mk-environment
\chapter{From \MKII\ to \MKIV}
Sometime in 2005 the development of \LUATEX\ started, a further
development of \PDFTEX\ and a precursor to \PDFTEX\ version~2. This
\TEX\ variant will provide:
\startitemize[packed]
\item 21--32 bit internals plus a code cleanup
\item flexible support for \OPENTYPE\ fonts
\item an internal \UTF\ data flow
\item the bidirectional typesetting of \ALEPH
\item \LUA\ callbacks to the most relevant \TEX\ internals
\item some extensions to \TEX\ (for instance math)
\item an efficient way to communicate with \METAPOST
\stopitemize
In the tradition of \TEX\ this successor will be downward
compatible in most essential parts and in the end, there is
still \PDFTEX\ version~1 as fall back.
In the mean time we have seen another unicode variant show up,
\XETEX\ which is under active development, uses external
libraries, provides access to the fonts on the operating system,
etc.
From the beginning, \CONTEXT\ always worked with all engines. This
was achieved by conditional code blocks: depending on what engine
was used, different code was put in the format and|/|or used at
runtime. Users normally were unaware of this. Examples of engines
are \ETEX, \ALEPH, and \XETEX. Because nowadays all engines
provide the \ETEX\ features, in August 2006 we decided to consider
those features to be present and drop providing the standard \TEX\
compatible variants. This is a small effort because all code that
is sensitive for optimization already has \ETEX\ code branches for
many years.
However, with the arrival of \LUATEX, we need a more drastic approach.
Quite some existing code can go away and will be replaced by different
solutions. Where \TEX\ code ends up in the format file, along with
its state, \LUA\ code will be initiated at run time, after a \LUA\
instance is started. \CONTEXT\ reserves its own instance of \LUA.
Most of this will go unnoticed for the users because the user
interface will not change. For developers however, we need to
provide a mechanism to deal with these issues. This is why, for the
first time in \CONTEXT's history we will officially use a kind of
version tag. When we changed the low level interface from Dutch to
English we jokingly talked of version~2. So, it makes sense to
follow this lead.
\startitemize[packed]
\item \notabene {\CONTEXT\ \MKI}\quad At that moment we still had a
low level Dutch interface, invisible for users but not for developers.
\item \notabene {\CONTEXT\ \MKII}\quad We now have a low level English
interface, which (as we indeed saw happen) triggers more development by
users.
\item \notabene {\CONTEXT\ \MKIV}\quad This is the next generation of
\CONTEXT, with parts re||implemented. It's an at some points drastic
system overhaul.
\stopitemize
Keep in mind that the functionality does not change, although in
some places, for instance fonts, \MKIV\ may provide additional
functionality. The reason why most users will not notice the
difference (maybe apart from performance and convenience) is that at
the user interface level nothing changes (most of it deals with
typesetting, not with low level details).
The hole in the numbering permits us to provide a \MKIII\ version
as well. Once \XETEX\ is stable, we may use that slot for \XETEX\
specific implementations.
As per August 2006 the banner is adapted to this distinction:
\starttyping
... ver: 2006.09.06 22:46 MK II fmt: 2006.9.6 ...
... ver: 2006.09.06 22:47 MK IV fmt: 2006.9.6 ...
\stoptyping
This numbering system is reflected at the file level in such a way
that we can keep developing the way we do, i.e.\ no files all over
the place, in subdirectories, etc.
Most of the system's core files are not affected, but some may be, like
those dealing with fonts, input- and output encodings, file handling,
etc. Those files may come with different suffixes:
\startitemize
\item \type {somefile.tex}: the main file, implementing the interface
and common code
\item \type {somefile.mkii}: mostly existing code, suitable for good
old \TEX\ (\ETEX, \PDFTEX, \ALEPH).
\item \type {somefile.mkiv}: code optimized for use with \LUATEX, which
could follow completely different approaches
\item \type {somefile.lua}: \LUA\ code, loaded at format generation time
and|/|or runtime
\stopitemize
As said, some day \type {somefile.mkiii} code may show up. Which
variant is loaded is determined automatically at format generation
time as well as at run time.
\stopcomponent
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Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: Hello, Installing MKIV as described in This Way magazine is somewhat tricky. But first of all, I cannot get LuaTEX! When I try to download win32 binaries from liatex.org, I get 404 Error - Bestand niet gevonden! And just for curioisty, where such names as Mark II and Mark IV come from? is revealed in mk.pdf - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
On 8/8/07, Arthur Reutenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where luatex is located in PRAGMA? I see only cont-tfm.zip. I use TeXLive, so only luatex binaries I'm missing now. In the minimal distribution (mswintex.zip for Windows, linuxtex.zip etc ...). So the stand-alone mswincontext.zip will have everything I need to experiment with luatex (and XeTeX)? Just trying to confirm what I think I've understood. --Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
So the stand-alone mswincontext.zip will have everything I need to experiment with luatex (and XeTeX)? Yes. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
Peter Rolf wrote: Arthur Reutenauer schrieb: luac5.1.exe [TO] luac.exe etc. Alternatively, you can use LuaTeX itself as the lua interpreter and compiler. That is, the same binary will act as: LuaTeX proper when called luatex(.exe) lua when called texlua(.exe) (equivalent to luatex --luaonly) luac, the compiler, when called texluac.(exe) So you don't even need lua anymore. i see. but on windows you waste more than 7mb disk space this way. installing the lua binaries costs only 288kb. so where is the benefit? there must be a better way. these 7 meg gave as advantage - no need to install anything else (no huge ruby/perl or whatever) - bytcode compiler in sync with luatex internals - texlua has the libs that we need built in alternatives: -- texlua.cmd -- @echo off setlocal set ownpath=%~dp0% %ownpath%luatex --luaonly %* endlocal and similar for texluac Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
Hans Hagen schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Arthur Reutenauer schrieb: luac5.1.exe [TO] luac.exe etc. Alternatively, you can use LuaTeX itself as the lua interpreter and compiler. That is, the same binary will act as: LuaTeX proper when called luatex(.exe) lua when called texlua(.exe) (equivalent to luatex --luaonly) luac, the compiler, when called texluac.(exe) So you don't even need lua anymore. i see. but on windows you waste more than 7mb disk space this way. installing the lua binaries costs only 288kb. so where is the benefit? there must be a better way. these 7 meg gave as advantage - no need to install anything else (no huge ruby/perl or whatever) - bytcode compiler in sync with luatex internals - texlua has the libs that we need built in i see the advantages :) it's just that i don't see the need for three identical files, when you can use one with different (mode switching) parameters. yes, i know. it's an early beta. alternatives: -- texlua.cmd -- @echo off setlocal set ownpath=%~dp0% %ownpath%luatex --luaonly %* endlocal this one is already in my bin dir. but i couldn't find a similar parameter for texluac. also my tries with 'junction' (a sysinternals tool for creating links) didn't succeed. the created links were not found. and similar for texluac Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
Peter Rolf wrote: Hans Hagen schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Arthur Reutenauer schrieb: luac5.1.exe [TO] luac.exe etc. Alternatively, you can use LuaTeX itself as the lua interpreter and compiler. That is, the same binary will act as: LuaTeX proper when called luatex(.exe) lua when called texlua(.exe) (equivalent to luatex --luaonly) luac, the compiler, when called texluac.(exe) So you don't even need lua anymore. i see. but on windows you waste more than 7mb disk space this way. installing the lua binaries costs only 288kb. so where is the benefit? there must be a better way. these 7 meg gave as advantage - no need to install anything else (no huge ruby/perl or whatever) - bytcode compiler in sync with luatex internals - texlua has the libs that we need built in has to do with unix where the shebang line will only work with texlua since luatex --luaonly cannot be given, but there it's a symlink on windows one can copy and/or create an alias or use a small stub; future versions may have a core dll and three small binaries ... who knows Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
