Re: [NTG-context] Is there a mathematica typesetting manual for ConTeXt ?

2005-05-18 Thread Mojca Miklavec
I'm affraid I'm too late already, but I'm sending this anyway. The
lines you sent as an example have two pecculiarities:
- bad alignment
- too short arrows

I managed to solve the first problem -- alignment (with some
cheating, using TeXBOOK), but I have no idea how to extend
\downharpoonright for example and \longrightleftharpoons also don't
look as they should.

In plain TeX it is possible to say \big\downarrow or \Bigg\downarrow
and the arrow is as long as desired. I neither do understand how this
mechanism works nor did I found out how \downharpoonright was defined
(which font, ...).

Does any Font/TeXnician have any idea how to make \Big\updownharpoons work?

xiaojf said this at Sat, 14 May 2005 21:36:45 +0800:
 
 Hi,
 I  can code the cycle in ConTeXt,but it's too ugly and I will try to
 improve it.
 here is my code:

 \starttext
 \placeformula
 \startformula
 \matrix{A+B{\Delta G_1\atop\rightleftharpoons}AB\cr
 \Delta G_3\!\!\upharpoonleft\!\downharpoonright
 \upharpoonleft\!\downharpoonright\!\!\Delta G_4\cr
 A'+B{\rightleftharpoons\atop\Delta G_2}A'B\cr}
 \stopformula
 \stoptext

see below

 There is a similar example in The TeXbook(example 18.46).
 You can try the follow code:

 $$\def\normalbaselines{\baselineskip20pt\lineskip3pt \lineskiplimit3pt }

these are just a few local space adjustment, not important to
undestand the content.

 \def\mapright#1{\smash{
 \mathop{\longrightarrow}\limits^{#1}}}

define a command \mapright:
- \mathop makes \longrightarror behave in a similar way as big
operators like \sum, \int, ...
- \limits makes the ^{#1} appear centered above the arrow smaller than
the rest (the same as super/sub-scripts)

 \def\mapdown#1{\Big\downarrow
 \rlap{$\vcenter{\hbox{$\scriptstyle#1$}}$}}

define a command \mapdown:
- \Big makes the \downarrow longer (no idea how to make something
similar for a harpoon)
- \rlap places the argument to the right of the arrow with virtual box
width 0 (so that the arrow can be centered)
- $\vcenter{\hbox{...}}$ takes care of vertical centering
- $\scriptstyle #1$ is a compensation for ^{#1} above and takes care
that the argument becomes smaller. Note that if equation is not
typeset in \displaystyle, than it may be that this is not of the same
size as the argument in \mapright

 \matrix{0\cr
 \mapdown{}\cr
 0\mapright{}{\cal O}_C\mapright\iota
 \cal E\mapright\rho\cal L\mapright{}0\cr
 \Big\Vert\mapdown\phi\mapdown\psi\cr
 0\mapright{}{\cal O}_C\mapright{}
 \pi_*{\cal O}_D\mapright\delta
 R^1f_*{\cal O}_V(-D)\mapright{}0\cr
 \mapdown{\theta_i\otimes\gamma^{-1}}\cr
 \hidewidth R^1f_*\bigl({\cal O}
 _V(-iM)\bigr)\otimes\gamma^{-1}\hidewidth\cr
 \mapdown{}\cr
 0\cr}$$

 Since i'm just a newbie of TeX, I don't really understand the first a few 
 lines
 of the solution. I still need some learning and practice :)

I hope I explained at least a little bit of it. 

So here's my proposal (not perfect yet):



\usemodule[nath]

% is there any other way to use local variables than \unprotect?
% I also had to define [EMAIL PROTECTED] once more, which is not very elegant,
% but I don't know any other way
\unprotect

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

% The TeXBOOK, page 358, modified \longrightarrow
% for some reason, the harpoon and line are not 100% perfectly joined
\def\longrightharpoonup{\relbar\joinrel\rightharpoonup}
\def\longleftharpoondown{\leftharpoondown\joinrel\relbar}

% slightly longer line which didn't work: it this looks ugly
% probably a definition, similar as in \overrightarrow
% would help producing longer harpoons
%
% \def\longrightharpoonup{\relbar\joinrel\relbar\joinrel\rightharpoonup}
% \def\longleftharpoondown{\leftharpoondown\joinrel\relbar\joinrel\relbar}

% The TeXBOOK, page 361m modified \rightleftharpoons
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@th\hbox{\ooalign{\raise2pt
   \hbox{$#1\longrightharpoonup$}\crcr $#1\longleftharpoondown$

% copied from your code
\def\updownharpoons{\upharpoonleft\!\downharpoonright}

% here are four different placements of \Delta G_i,
% based on Knuth's example above
% 
% I tried to explain the command already above
% please ask if there is something you don't understand yet
%
\def\MyEquivTop#1{\smash{\mathop{\longrightleftharpoons}\limits^{#1}}}
\def\MyEquivBot#1{\smash{\mathop{\longrightleftharpoons}\limits_{#1}}}
\def\MyEquivLft#1{\llap{$\vcenter{\hbox{$\scriptstyle{#1}$}}$}\updownharpoons}
\def\MyEquivRt#1{\updownharpoons\rlap{$\vcenter{\hbox{$\scriptstyle{#1}$}}$}}

\protect

$$
% copied from the Knuth's example above
\def\normalbaselines{\baselineskip20pt\lineskip10pt\lineskiplimit10pt}

\matrix{A+B  \MyEquivTop{\Delta G_1}  AB \cr
\MyEquivLft{\Delta G_3}   \MyEquivRt{\Delta G_4} \cr
A'+B'  \MyEquivBot{\Delta G_2}  A'B \cr}
$$

\stoptext



Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Is there a mathematica typesetting manual for ConTeXt ?

2005-05-14 Thread Adam Lindsay
Tobias Burnus said this at Sat, 14 May 2005 07:05:44 +0200:

(I have to admit, I cannot find m-math.tex/t-math.tex anywhere.)

I assumed Hans meant MathML. :)
\usemodule[mathml]


The basic math capabilities within ConTeXt do seem poorly documented,
mostly because they point to different sources, often in books. However,
ConTeXt does use  Plain TeX as its model for mathematics. 

The basics in ConTeXt are roughly equivalent to those described in:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Formula
   (I don't know if it will specifically help you, but I note there's a
zh version of that page)


...but it takes some practice to spot the things that don't work directly
in ConTeXt. Some differences are unimplemented features, some are
differing conventions, some are because LaTeX thought they would be
useful, and ConTeXt hasn't (yet).

Some differences from the examples on that page that I notice immediately:

Math is best delimited inline with \formula{ ... }, not $ ... $
Display math is best delimited with \startformula ... \stopformula , not
$$ ... $$

\operatorname  =  \mfunction

The double-, triple-, and quadruple-integrals (\nt) are undefined in
basic ConTeXt's math.

The \begin{case} environment needs to be simplified into the Plain
\cases{} command.

The AMSmath/LaTeX-like:

$$ \begin{bmatrix} p  q \\
   r  s   \end{bmatrix} $$

   ...can be interpreted as...

\startformula
\left[ \matrix{ p  q \cr
r  s } \right]
\stopformula


This might not be the best answer to the original poster, but I do hope
it provides a bit of a guide to the general ConTeXt newcomer.

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Re: Re: [NTG-context] Is there a mathematica typesetting manual for ConTeXt ?

2005-05-14 Thread xiaojf
Hi,Adam Lindsay,



=== 2005-05-14 08:46:00 You wrote===

Tobias Burnus said this at Sat, 14 May 2005 07:05:44 +0200:

(I have to admit, I cannot find m-math.tex/t-math.tex anywhere.)

I assumed Hans meant MathML. :)
\usemodule[mathml]


The basic math capabilities within ConTeXt do seem poorly documented,
mostly because they point to different sources, often in books. However,
ConTeXt does use  Plain TeX as its model for mathematics.

The basics in ConTeXt are roughly equivalent to those described in:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Formula
   (I don't know if it will specifically help you, but I note there's a
zh version of that page)


but it takes some practice to spot the things that don't work directly
in ConTeXt. Some differences are unimplemented features, some are
differing conventions, some are because LaTeX thought they would be
useful, and ConTeXt hasn't (yet).

Some differences from the examples on that page that I notice immediately:

Math is best delimited inline with \formula{ ... }, not $ ... $
Display math is best delimited with \startformula ... \stopformula , not
$$ ... $$

\operatorname  =  \mfunction

The double-, triple-, and quadruple-integrals (\nt) are undefined in
basic ConTeXt's math.
I must say thank you very very much!

In fact I've been looking for \iint in ConTeXt in the last two days -_-
so i'll try to use \int\!\!\!\int instead of looking for a ConTeXt 
implementation :)

I met another problem today. Since there are not as many arrows in ConTeXt as 
there
in AMS-LaTeX,I don't konw how to type the formula in the attached picture which 
will
be referred in my presentation next Monday.


The \begin{case} environment needs to be simplified into the Plain
\cases{} command.

The AMSmath/LaTeX-like:

$$ \begin{bmatrix} p  q \\
   r  s   \end{bmatrix} $$

   ...can be interpreted as...

\startformula
\left[ \matrix{ p  q \cr
r  s } \right]
\stopformula


This might not be the best answer to the original poster, but I do hope
it provides a bit of a guide to the general ConTeXt newcomer.

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Re: [NTG-context] Is there a mathematica typesetting manual for ConTeXt ?

2005-05-14 Thread Adam Lindsay
xiaojf said this at Sat, 14 May 2005 19:49:02 +0800:

The double-, triple-, and quadruple-integrals (\nt) are undefined in
basic ConTeXt's math.
I must say thank you very very much!

In fact I've been looking for \iint in ConTeXt in the last two days -_-
so i'll try to use \int\!\!\!\int instead of looking for a ConTeXt
implementation :)

I met another problem today. Since there are not as many arrows in
ConTeXt as there 
in AMS-LaTeX,I don't konw how to type the formula in the attached picture
which will 
be referred in my presentation next Monday.

Hello, Xiao.

I'm glad I could help: I'm learning these advanced requirements as I go
along. My personal mathematics needs are much more modest.

I wouldn't give up on ConTeXt just yet. Try:
\loadmapfile[original-ams-base]
\starttext
\showmathcharacters
Note the \formula{\rightleftharpoons} and 
\formula{\upharpoonleft\!\downharpoonright}.
\stoptext

Do you know how you would code that cycle in (AMS)LaTeX?
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Re: Re: [NTG-context] Is there a mathematica typesetting manual for ConTeXt ?

2005-05-14 Thread xiaojf

=== 2005-05-14 13:31:00 You worte===

xiaojf said this at Sat, 14 May 2005 19:49:02 +0800:

The double-, triple-, and quadruple-integrals (\nt) are undefined in
basic ConTeXt's math.
I must say thank you very very much!

In fact I've been looking for \iint in ConTeXt in the last two days -_-
so i'll try to use \int\!\!\!\int instead of looking for a ConTeXt
implementation :)

I met another problem today. Since there are not as many arrows in
ConTeXt as there
in AMS-LaTeX,I don't konw how to type the formula in the attached picture
which will
be referred in my presentation next Monday.

Hello, Xiao.

I'm glad I could help: I'm learning these advanced requirements as I go
along. My personal mathematics needs are much more modest.

I wouldn't give up on ConTeXt just yet. Try:
\loadmapfile[original-ams-base]
\starttext
\showmathcharacters
Note the \formula{\rightleftharpoons} and
\formula{\upharpoonleft\!\downharpoonright}.
\stoptext

Do you know how you would code that cycle in (AMS)LaTeX?
Hi,
I  can code the cycle in ConTeXt,but it's too ugly and I will try to improve it.
here is my code:

\starttext
\placeformula
\startformula
\matrix{A+B{\Delta G_1\atop\rightleftharpoons}AB\cr
\Delta G_3\!\!\upharpoonleft\!\downharpoonright
\upharpoonleft\!\downharpoonright\!\!\Delta G_4\cr
A'+B{\rightleftharpoons\atop\Delta G_2}A'B\cr}
\stopformula
\stoptext

There is a similar example in The TeXbook(example 18.46).
You can try the follow code:

$$\def\normalbaselines{\baselineskip20pt
\lineskip3pt \lineskiplimit3pt }
\def\mapright#1{\smash{
\mathop{\longrightarrow}\limits^{#1}}}
\def\mapdown#1{\Big\downarrow
\rlap{$\vcenter{\hbox{$\scriptstyle#1$}}$}}
\matrix{0\cr
\mapdown{}\cr
0\mapright{}{\cal O}_C\mapright\iota
\cal E\mapright\rho\cal L\mapright{}0\cr
\Big\Vert\mapdown\phi\mapdown\psi\cr
0\mapright{}{\cal O}_C\mapright{}
\pi_*{\cal O}_D\mapright\delta
R^1f_*{\cal O}_V(-D)\mapright{}0\cr
\mapdown{\theta_i\otimes\gamma^{-1}}\cr
\hidewidth R^1f_*\bigl({\cal O}
_V(-iM)\bigr)\otimes\gamma^{-1}\hidewidth\cr
\mapdown{}\cr
0\cr}$$

Since i'm just a newbie of TeX, I don't really understand the first a few lines
of the solution. I still need some learning and practice :)

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Re: [NTG-context] Is there a mathematica typesetting manual for ConTeXt ?

2005-05-13 Thread Hans Hagen
redox wrote:
 Hi, Mikael,
 
 Thanks for your kindness, and sorry for my bad English ^_^
 
 I mean I want to type some math formulas with ConTeXt. Since i don't
 know too much about ConTeXt/TeX, i want to find a manual about this
 subject and to learn by myself.
 
 In the ConTeXt an excursion(page 15), it says,
 
 We advise you to do some further reading on typesetting formula in TeX.
 See for example:
 The TeXBook by D.E. Kunth
 The Beginners Book of TeX by S. Levy and R.Seroul
 
 
 I know that LaTeX(and AMS-LaTeX) has made some extensions to TeX in math
 typesetting, so I'm wondering if ConTeXt has also made extensions to
 TeX, or I can only type math formula in the way of basic TeX ?

\usemodule[math]

or

\usemodule[newmat]

or

\usemodule[nath]

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Is there a mathematica typesetting manual for ConTeXt ?

2005-05-13 Thread Maurice Diamantini
Le 13 mai 05 à 05:18, redox a écrit :
I mean I want to type some math formulas with ConTeXt. Since i don't
know too much about ConTeXt/TeX, i want to find a manual about this
subject and to learn by myself.
In the ConTeXt an excursion(page 15), it says,
We advise you to do some further reading on typesetting formula in  
TeX.
See for example:
The TeXBook by D.E. Kunth
The Beginners Book of TeX by S. Levy and R.Seroul


I know that LaTeX(and AMS-LaTeX) has made some extensions to TeX in  
math
typesetting, so I'm wondering if ConTeXt has also made extensions to
TeX, or I can only type math formula in the way of basic TeX ?
The first (only) starting point about math and context is
   http://contextgarden.net/Math
The main AMS environnements are available with amsl module
(should be in the recent context distribution, but not with the
TeXlive-2004)
   http://contextgarden.net/Math_with_amsl
Giuseppe Bilotta has also port the NATH LaTeX package
(NAtural maTHematics) :
   http://contextgarden.net/Math_with_nath
There is not yet documentation and sample about using thes module,
but the documentation of there LaTeX LaTeX version is very
usefull,
Cordialement,
Maurice Diamantini,
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Re: [NTG-context] Is there a mathematica typesetting manual for ConTeXt ?

2005-05-13 Thread redox
Hans Hagen wrote:

redox wrote:
  

Hi, Mikael,

Thanks for your kindness, and sorry for my bad English ^_^

I mean I want to type some math formulas with ConTeXt. Since i don't
know too much about ConTeXt/TeX, i want to find a manual about this
subject and to learn by myself.

In the ConTeXt an excursion(page 15), it says,

We advise you to do some further reading on typesetting formula in TeX.
See for example:
The TeXBook by D.E. Kunth
The Beginners Book of TeX by S. Levy and R.Seroul


I know that LaTeX(and AMS-LaTeX) has made some extensions to TeX in math
typesetting, so I'm wondering if ConTeXt has also made extensions to
TeX, or I can only type math formula in the way of basic TeX ?



\usemodule[math]

or

\usemodule[newmat]

or

\usemodule[nath]

Hans
  

In the ConTeXt an excursion(page 92)(mp-cb-en.pdf), it says,

 At this moment you can load the following modules:
  chemic
  units
  pictex

I noted that the version of ConTeXt an excursion is May 27, 1999, so I 
think it's also a little out-of-date. 

Now my question is, what modules can I use in ConTeXt ? And where can I find 
detailed descriptions of these modules ?

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Re: [NTG-context] Is there a mathematica typesetting manual for ConTeXt ?

2005-05-13 Thread Tobias Burnus
Ni hao and hello,


redox wrote:

\usemodule[math]
  or
\usemodule[newmat]
  or
\usemodule[nath]


For most equation, the plain TeX commands incl. \eqalign and \eqalignno
should be enough. (For the latter: \formulanumber{} and
\formulasubnumber are useful.)

For nath, one should use the LaTeX documentation; for details see:
http://contextgarden.net/Math_with_nath

Analogously for AMS math functionality, see
http://contextgarden.net/Math_with_amsl


 At this moment you can load the following modules:
  units

I noted that the version of ConTeXt an excursion is May 27, 1999, so I 
think it's also a little out-of-date.
  

True, but all documentation is soon out of date. For the modules, you
quoted, see also:
http://contextgarden.net/Math

For bold math symbols:
http://contextgarden.net/Bold_Math

For m-newmat, read the source code; m-newmat is based on/inspired by
AMS's macropackage.
http://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/m-newmat.tex


(I have to admit, I cannot find m-math.tex/t-math.tex anywhere.)

Regards,

Tobias
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Re: [NTG-context] Is there a mathematica typesetting manual for ConTeXt ?

2005-05-12 Thread Hans Hagen
redox wrote:
 hi all,
 
 I am a newbie of ConTeXt, i'm sorry if my question is foolish.
 
 I have two questions:
 
 1.
 Is there a mathematica typesetting manual for ConTeXt ? There seems no
 ConTeXt manual focused on mathematica. Or I just need to find a
 mathematica manual for LaTeX ?
 
 2.
 I'm running TeTeX 2.0.2 on Debian Sarge, and the version of texexec is
 3.1 which I think is out of date, so i tried to update ConTeXt.
 
 I downloaded www.pragma-ade.com/context/latest/cont-tmf.zip , and
 unziped it to /usr/local/share/texmf/, then I ran mktexlsr and
 texexec --make --all.
 
 But when i ran texexec --version, the version was still 3.1. It seemed
 that the texexec wasn't updated.

try to locate texexec.pl (somewhere in the scripts path) and move that to the
bino path (remove suffix)

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Is there a mathematica typesetting manual for ConTeXt ?

2005-05-12 Thread Mikael Persson
On 5/12/05, redox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi all,
 
 I am a newbie of ConTeXt, i'm sorry if my question is foolish.
 
 I have two questions:
 
 1.
 Is there a mathematica typesetting manual for ConTeXt ? There seems no
 ConTeXt manual focused on mathematica. Or I just need to find a
 mathematica manual for LaTeX ?

What do you mean by mathematica typesetting? I am sometimes using the
Mathematica math fonts. I also wrote somekind of macro that try to
immitate Mathematica notebooks, a shot is given at

http://www.math.chalmers.se/~mickep/mma.png

The files for the fonts (the fonts are freely available) can I share
without problems, but the macros for the book I can not share (yet at
least).

If this did not help in any way, please ask again.

/Micke P

 2.
 I'm running TeTeX 2.0.2 on Debian Sarge, and the version of texexec is
 3.1 which I think is out of date, so i tried to update ConTeXt.
 
 I downloaded www.pragma-ade.com/context/latest/cont-tmf.zip , and
 unziped it to /usr/local/share/texmf/, then I ran mktexlsr and
 texexec --make --all.
 
 But when i ran texexec --version, the version was still 3.1. It seemed
 that the texexec wasn't updated.
 
 Thanks in advance!!
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Is there a mathematica typesetting manual for ConTeXt ?

2005-05-12 Thread redox
Hi, Mikael,

Thanks for your kindness, and sorry for my bad English ^_^

I mean I want to type some math formulas with ConTeXt. Since i don't
know too much about ConTeXt/TeX, i want to find a manual about this
subject and to learn by myself.

In the ConTeXt an excursion(page 15), it says,

We advise you to do some further reading on typesetting formula in TeX.
See for example:
The TeXBook by D.E. Kunth
The Beginners Book of TeX by S. Levy and R.Seroul


I know that LaTeX(and AMS-LaTeX) has made some extensions to TeX in math
typesetting, so I'm wondering if ConTeXt has also made extensions to
TeX, or I can only type math formula in the way of basic TeX ?


xiaojf


Mikael Persson wrote:

On 5/12/05, redox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

hi all,

I am a newbie of ConTeXt, i'm sorry if my question is foolish.

I have two questions:

1.
Is there a mathematica typesetting manual for ConTeXt ? There seems no
ConTeXt manual focused on mathematica. Or I just need to find a
mathematica manual for LaTeX ?



What do you mean by mathematica typesetting? I am sometimes using the
Mathematica math fonts. I also wrote somekind of macro that try to
immitate Mathematica notebooks, a shot is given at

http://www.math.chalmers.se/~mickep/mma.png

The files for the fonts (the fonts are freely available) can I share
without problems, but the macros for the book I can not share (yet at
least).

If this did not help in any way, please ask again.

/Micke P

  

2.
I'm running TeTeX 2.0.2 on Debian Sarge, and the version of texexec is
3.1 which I think is out of date, so i tried to update ConTeXt.

I downloaded www.pragma-ade.com/context/latest/cont-tmf.zip , and
unziped it to /usr/local/share/texmf/, then I ran mktexlsr and
texexec --make --all.

But when i ran texexec --version, the version was still 3.1. It seemed
that the texexec wasn't updated.

Thanks in advance!!

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