Re: [NTG-context] TeX Live and ConTeXt MKIV installation and maintenance
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Aditya Mahajan wrote: Thank you. I followed your instructions, and everything works perfectly. (Well, I did have to manually follow the post-install instructions from Taco). I only installed ConTeXt, american language and english documentation. You don't really need the language, I think (but selecting one removes the installer warning). I think that Norbert already implemented if context scheme, no warning. ConTeXt works fine, but the only third party module that is installed in t-bib. Did I miss an option for installing ConTeXt third party modules, or are they not present currently? Nothing is present in texlive at the moment (except a typescript from the semaphor font package). I verified this by looking at the svn repository. Unless I badly misinterpreted something, Mojca is getting the modules mirrored to CTAN so that they can be brought into texlive in the 'normal' way, but whether or not that will be sorted out in time for the 2008 release of texlive I cannot say. The modules are mirrored on CTAN, but Karl sent me a list of questions (I expected that). The problem is that TL assumes that package names should be the same as folders where these packages reside. In the specific case of t-letter, that means renaming tex/context/third/letter to tex/context/third/context-letter, else name clash with LaTeX package letter would occur ... But some better solution needs to be found. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TeX Live and ConTeXt MKIV installation and maintenance
Mojca Miklavec wrote: In the specific case of t-letter, that means renaming tex/context/third/letter to tex/context/third/context-letter, else name clash with LaTeX package letter would occur ... But some better solution needs to be found. we need to avoid too many variants, so better something like extra that contains letter and more context core context modules context styles context fonts not more granularity Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TeX Live and ConTeXt MKIV installation and maintenance
Aditya Mahajan wrote: Thank you. I followed your instructions, and everything works perfectly. (Well, I did have to manually follow the post-install instructions from Taco). I only installed ConTeXt, american language and english documentation. You don't really need the language, I think (but selecting one removes the installer warning). ConTeXt works fine, but the only third party module that is installed in t-bib. Did I miss an option for installing ConTeXt third party modules, or are they not present currently? Nothing is present in texlive at the moment (except a typescript from the semaphor font package). I verified this by looking at the svn repository. Unless I badly misinterpreted something, Mojca is getting the modules mirrored to CTAN so that they can be brought into texlive in the 'normal' way, but whether or not that will be sorted out in time for the 2008 release of texlive I cannot say. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TeX Live and ConTeXt MKIV installation and maintenance
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to test texlive without uninstalling texlive2007 installed by a system package manager? Last time I tried texlive 2008, mkiv setup was reading texmf.cnf that came with system installed tl2007, and therefore could not find the correct files. I want to test tl2008, but at the moment cannot afford to uninstall tl2007. I have two versions of TL2007 (Red Hat's and one I maintain from the svn repo) and have been testing TL2008 without removing. TL is designed to work from a self-contained tree, but there are a few potential problems to watch for: 0. Some Windows GUI environments may store the information gleaned from the TeX configuration when they are first installed, so you need to check which versions are being used and be prepared to use command-line stuff if your editor makes bad choices. This can also be an issue with some *x GUI environments whre the app is started by the GUI and doesn't see changes to the path made in your current shell. 1. the default on is to have texlive//texmf* trees with texlive/texmf-local available to all the versions. If you have put updates to TL2007 in your texmf-local, they may be older versions than those in TL2008. The same applies to updates in $HOME/texmf. 2. on *x be careful not to have the installer create symbolic links, e.g., in /usr/bin. You can then select the version you want by adjusting the PATH variable. On *X I recommend the environment modules tools to manage your PATH. This is available in some linux distros, and comes with SGI Irix. Another approach that works on WIn32 and *x is to write a script that sets the path and loads a shell. Then you can use that for command-line processing, or start emacs from the command-line to use AUCTeX. 3. formats and configs may end up in $HOME/.texlive, which is OK if you are using only one install for a given year, but can cause problems if you end up with two installs for the same TL version. The solution is to make sure you use the tool-sys versions to put configs and formats into the system directories. -- George N. White III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Head of St. Margarets Bay, Nova Scotia ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TeX Live and ConTeXt MKIV installation and maintenance
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, George N. White III wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to test texlive without uninstalling texlive2007 installed by a system package manager? Last time I tried texlive 2008, mkiv setup was reading texmf.cnf that came with system installed tl2007, and therefore could not find the correct files. I want to test tl2008, but at the moment cannot afford to uninstall tl2007. I also realized that I had TEXMFCNF variable set, which was causing havoc with tl2008. I have two versions of TL2007 (Red Hat's and one I maintain from the svn repo) and have been testing TL2008 without removing. TL is designed to work from a self-contained tree, but there are a few potential problems to watch for: 0. Some Windows GUI environments may store the information gleaned from the TeX configuration when they are first installed, so you need to check which versions are being used and be prepared to use command-line stuff if your editor makes bad choices. This can also be an issue with some *x GUI environments whre the app is started by the GUI and doesn't see changes to the path made in your current shell. 1. the default on is to have texlive//texmf* trees with texlive/texmf-local available to all the versions. If you have put updates to TL2007 in your texmf-local, they may be older versions than those in TL2008. The same applies to updates in $HOME/texmf. 2. on *x be careful not to have the installer create symbolic links, e.g., in /usr/bin. You can then select the version you want by adjusting the PATH variable. On *X I recommend the environment modules tools to manage your PATH. This is available in some linux distros, and comes with SGI Irix. Another approach that works on WIn32 and *x is to write a script that sets the path and loads a shell. Then you can use that for command-line processing, or start emacs from the command-line to use AUCTeX. 3. formats and configs may end up in $HOME/.texlive, which is OK if you are using only one install for a given year, but can cause problems if you end up with two installs for the same TL version. The solution is to make sure you use the tool-sys versions to put configs and formats into the system directories. Thank you. I followed your instructions, and everything works perfectly. (Well, I did have to manually follow the post-install instructions from Taco). I only installed ConTeXt, american language and english documentation. ConTeXt works fine, but the only third party module that is installed in t-bib. Did I miss an option for installing ConTeXt third party modules, or are they not present currently? Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TeX Live and ConTeXt MKIV installation and maintenance
Aditya Mahajan wrote: Is it possible to test texlive without uninstalling texlive2007 installed by a system package manager? Last time I tried texlive 2008, mkiv setup was reading texmf.cnf that came with system installed tl2007, and therefore could not find the correct files. I want to test tl2008, but at the moment cannot afford to uninstall tl2007. It should work to have both installed together (unless your packaged texlive depends on environment variables or your system has a texmf.cnf that is not officially part of texlive). Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TeX Live and ConTeXt MKIV installation and maintenance
Quoting Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, There now is a wiki page documenting the setup and maintenance of mkiv: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV The page can still be improved upon (of course), so if you know of something that needs to be added or explained better, please do so. I wrote this page with the texlive 2008 users in mind, but I think most of it applies to the new context minimals as well. This page is great. Thanks. By the way, context on texlive2008 will be 2008.05.21. Mkii (pdftex as well as xetex) runs out of the box, no post-install intervention needed. But if someone is willing to do some extra tests, that will be much appreciated. How to beta-test texlive2008 is explained in ftp://tug.org/texlive/tlnet/tldev/README Is it possible to test texlive without uninstalling texlive2007 installed by a system package manager? Last time I tried texlive 2008, mkiv setup was reading texmf.cnf that came with system installed tl2007, and therefore could not find the correct files. I want to test tl2008, but at the moment cannot afford to uninstall tl2007. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TeX Live and ConTeXt MKIV installation and maintenance
Aditya Mahajan wrote: Quoting Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, There now is a wiki page documenting the setup and maintenance of mkiv: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV The page can still be improved upon (of course), so if you know of something that needs to be added or explained better, please do so. I wrote this page with the texlive 2008 users in mind, but I think most of it applies to the new context minimals as well. This page is great. Thanks. By the way, context on texlive2008 will be 2008.05.21. Mkii (pdftex as well as xetex) runs out of the box, no post-install intervention needed. But if someone is willing to do some extra tests, that will be much appreciated. How to beta-test texlive2008 is explained in ftp://tug.org/texlive/tlnet/tldev/README Is it possible to test texlive without uninstalling texlive2007 installed by a system package manager? Last time I tried texlive 2008, mkiv setup was reading texmf.cnf that came with system installed tl2007, and therefore could not find the correct files. I want to test tl2008, but at the moment cannot afford to uninstall tl2007. it's installed in a 2008 subtree so it should be possible to run them alongside Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
