date:20071231

RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

2007-12-31 Thread Thomas W Shinder

Now I understand why people buy into the ASA hallucination.

If only Microsoft could have been so clever --

http://www.bumwine.com/cisco.html

ingenious!

Happy New Year!

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

Exactly.  :P  Now if you all don't mind, I'm gonna listen to the Sun
Bowl.
My Ducks will likely loose, but I'm gonna listen anyway.  I'm stubborn
like
that.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SonicWall NAT'ing question

Works out to be the same

On Dec 31, 2007 12:52 PM, NTSysAdmin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
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> I gave you the wrong site.sorry.
>
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> Should have been http://secunia.com/
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> S
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>
> From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:29 PM
>
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question
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> Steve,
>
>
>
> I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you especially when you
point
> me to a website that is trying to sell me something, but my guess is
that
> any vulnerabilities listed would be for retired product lines. (At
least a
> quick check of *CURRENT* Watchguard products seems to indicates  0
> vunribilities, so I'm gonna have to take your word for the rest of
it.)
If
> you're gonna qualify a statement like that, you'd better make sure you
> qualify it for both sides.  I'd hazard a guess that *EVERY* product
designed
> as a firewall has at least one vulnerability discovered for it, and
that
> *INCLUDES* ISA.  (Don't make me whip out past ISA vulnerabilities and
the
> disasters that surrounded them.)  How a company handles those
discoveries
is
> far more important.
>
>
>
> My point to Dr. Shinder was that his response was in no way helpful in
> answering the question asked.  Just *ANOTHER* of his flame inducing
posts
> that start the same old flame wars that we've all done 100's times in
the
> last 10 years.  (My Gawd people, we *HAVE* been answering questions on
this
> list for 10 *YEARS* We're getting old.)  And it seems that you and I
are
> taking that bait.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
>  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:50 AM
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>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question
>
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>
> Hmm.
>
>
>
> Check secunia.org for vulnerabilities on all the products you've
> mentioned..then check on compromises on the same products.
>
>
>
> Not 1 report of a compromised ISA protected environment since ISA
2000.
> Can't say that about the rest...
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> S
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> From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:15 PM
>
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question
>
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>
>
> Dr. Shinder,
>
>
>
> Despite what you seem to want to believe there are other equally good
(Even
> better, IMHO) firewalls out there that come in appliances.  That's not
to
> say that ISA isn't a good product, as it has it's uses, but so do
SonicWall,
> Watchguard and Checkpoint products.  If you can't add to a discussion
in a
> way that helps the poster resolve their problem, I would suggest you
refrain
> from posting, if only to keep guys like Mr. Ely and Mr. Shook from
grabbing
> pitchforks and torches and stirring up the locals into a mob looking
to
put
> your neck in a noose.. Again.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 1:25 PM
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question
>
>
>
>
>
> ASA?
>
> ACK! Why didn't you use an ISA firewall? Much more secure and many
fewer
> security issues.
>
>
>
> Only a fool would use an ASA, IMHO.
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:27 PM
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: SonicWall NAT'ing question
>
>
>
>
>
> SonicWall Pro 1260 w/enhanced OS
>
>
>
> I need to configure this box to NAT/PAT for a new network
(10.101.2.x/24)
I
> just brought online.  This sonicwall is only going to be in service
for a
> few more weeks, as I'm migrating to a new ASA 5510.  I did figure out
the
> routing on the sonicwall so it can get to the aforementioned network
but
> nodes on that network can't get to the Internet.  Do I create a new
NAT
> policy?  What am I missing?
>
>
>
>
> Shook
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook

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Happy new year

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RE: Simple GPO/Application Deployment Question

2007-12-31 Thread Ken Schaefer

I wouldn't be created new OUs for this purpose. It typically goes against OU 
design principles.

To the OP - why don't you create a Domain Local security group to put your 
computer objects into. Use the security group to filter the GPO.

That's not to say a "Test OU" isn't a good idea - it can be. But place your 
test machines in there, and then use security groups to filter the various GPOs 
applied to the computers or VMs in the Test OU.

But I would NOT create an OU just to test this piece of software

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Liu, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2008 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Simple GPO/Application Deployment Question

Or, create another OU, dunp computers you want to have update applied & link 
the GPO




From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 7:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Simple GPO/Application Deployment Question


I've set up the Office Compatibility update to deploy to those users who do not 
have Office 2007 on our network.  I chose to deploy this update based on 
computer name instead of user.  When I do this, I can only select one computer 
name at a time in the Security Filter.  My network is small, but this becomes 
tedious.  Is there a good practical reason I'm not seeing that allows me to 
select multiple objects at once except when it comes to computer names?  There 
are just a lot of clicks involved this way and I would think Admins of a larger 
network would find a better way.

--
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RE: Adobe rant resumes...

2007-12-31 Thread Ken Schaefer

You tried that, and...?

You couldn't find the MSI? You found one but it wouldn't deploy? You found one, 
it does deploy, but you found the whole process to be more effort than it 
should be, so you wrote the rant?

Don't leave us hanging here - we're all very interested in your IT problems :-)

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2008 1:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe rant resumes...

Thanks!

I'd tried that before I actually pushed the "send" button for the rant...
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/31/2007 08:54:08 AM:

> I haven't checked with the very latest version, but at least
> previously with v8.x.x, the .exe that you can get from Adobe (the
> ~20MB one) contains an MSI file inside. After it unpacks, you can
> snaffle the MSI for GPO based deployment
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2008 1:37 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Adobe rant resumes...
>
> Greetings!
>
> For the past month or so, I've been reading about vulnerabilites in
> "Flash".  I went to the Adobe sites (both HTTP and FTP) looking for an
> MSI-based patch and could not find one...
>
> Does one exist?  If not, how are folks out there forcing updates for
this?
>  Thanks!
>
>
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RE: Storage Management

2007-12-31 Thread Benjamin Zachary

Check out spiceworks.  Free and does a lot more than than that. Did I
mention free? J

 

www.spiceworks.com

 

From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Storage Management

 

 

Hello all.

 

Hope all is well.

 

Looking for thoughts and suggestions on storage management solutions for
environment.  We would like a software solution  that can monitor a data
sever and maybe scan PCs.  Based on defined rules, it will remove data or
report for review.

 

We have looked at Veritas Storage Exec Small Business Server and it seems
like a great solution but wanted to see 1 or 2 more.

 

Thanks.

 

Happy New Year to all..

 

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RE: Simple GPO/Application Deployment Question

2007-12-31 Thread Benjamin Zachary

Thats the only way I know. I have a Computers OU and then a Test OU
usually, where I will move a couple pc and test the new policy. Same thing
David is saying. 

-Original Message-
From: Liu, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 7:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Simple GPO/Application Deployment Question

Or, create another OU, dunp computers you want to have update applied & link
the GPO 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 7:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Simple GPO/Application Deployment Question

I've set up the Office Compatibility update to deploy to those users who do
not have Office 2007 on our network.  I chose to deploy this update based on
computer name instead of user.  When I do this, I can only select one
computer name at a time in the Security Filter.  My network is small, but
this becomes tedious.  Is there a good practical reason I'm not seeing that
allows me to select multiple objects at once except when it comes to
computer names?  There are just a lot of clicks involved this way and I
would think Admins of a larger network would find a better way.

-- 
Mike Gill

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RE: Windows update icon missing

2007-12-31 Thread Leif Wahlberg

Thanks Sam,

 

That .CMD file did the trick. The service restarted and then showed the icon
and let me review the updates.

 

Leif

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 02:05
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows update icon missing

 

 

This should do the trick:  (Props to whomever wrote it, it wasn't me).   If
that doesn't work, google 'Dail-a-fix', it has an option to reset automatic
updates as well (Although, I think it does the same things in this
script...)

 

rem *** FIXWSUS.CMD
*
net stop wuauserv

 

regsvr32 /s wuapi.dll

 

regsvr32 /s wups.dll

 

regsvr32 /s wuaueng.dll

 

regsvr32 /s wucltui.dll

 

regsvr32 /s msxml3.dll

 

c:
cd %windir%\SoftwareDistribution
rd /s/q DataStore
mkdir DataStore
rd /s/q Download
mkdir Download

 

net start wuauserv

 

rem Fixes problem with client machines not showing up on the server due to
imaging method

 

reg delete HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate /v
AccountDomainSid /f
reg delete HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate /v
PingID /f
reg delete HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate /v
SusClientId /f
cls
@echo Triggering detection after resetting WSUS client identity
net stop "Automatic Updates"
net start "Automatic Updates"
wuauclt /resetauthorization /detectnow
echo susid set to unique>c:\wsusfix.txt

 

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RE: Simple GPO/Application Deployment Question

2007-12-31 Thread Liu, David

Or, create another OU, dunp computers you want to have update applied & link 
the GPO 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 7:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Simple GPO/Application Deployment Question

I've set up the Office Compatibility update to deploy to those users who do not 
have Office 2007 on our network.  I chose to deploy this update based on 
computer name instead of user.  When I do this, I can only select one computer 
name at a time in the Security Filter.  My network is small, but this becomes 
tedious.  Is there a good practical reason I'm not seeing that allows me to 
select multiple objects at once except when it comes to computer names?  There 
are just a lot of clicks involved this way and I would think Admins of a larger 
network would find a better way.

-- 
Mike Gill

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Simple GPO/Application Deployment Question

2007-12-31 Thread Mike Gill

I've set up the Office Compatibility update to deploy to those users who do
not have Office 2007 on our network.  I chose to deploy this update based on
computer name instead of user.  When I do this, I can only select one
computer name at a time in the Security Filter.  My network is small, but
this becomes tedious.  Is there a good practical reason I'm not seeing that
allows me to select multiple objects at once except when it comes to
computer names?  There are just a lot of clicks involved this way and I
would think Admins of a larger network would find a better way.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 


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RE: Windows update icon missing

2007-12-31 Thread Glen Johnson

Leif.
I saw this on one of my machines.
Try restarting, click the link on the shutdown screen that says shutdown 
without installing updates.
Boot it back up and the icon may come back and let you see what updates are to 
be installed.
It may take a while for the icon to re-appear.
Good luck.
Glen.
 

From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows update icon missing

 

 

Hi Folks,

 

In my lab I have a workstation that was sitting turned off at a shelf for 3 
months. The other day I needed it and started it up again.

 

Now, when I want to turn it off, it is showing me that there are pending 
updates that will be installed when I click on "Shut off".

 

However, there is no Update icon in the systray, so I cannot review what 
updates are pending.

 

How can I fix this? Google gives me thousands of hits on missing icon, but not 
what I am looking for.

 

Happy New Year to ya'll.

 

Leif

 

 



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IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
Mob: +886-932-147 774

   +1-206-388-8744
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 

 

 








 
 


 

 




 


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Re: Way OT: Digital to Analog Converter Boxes - US Only

2007-12-31 Thread James Kerr

Your right, its changed since the last time I was reading up on how to 
apply, which was like 2 weeks ago. You were supposed to self certify that 
you didn't have cable or satellite, now anyone can apply. Perhaps I will 
order a coupon for me as well.


James


- Original Message - 
From: "Carl Houseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: Way OT: Digital to Analog Converter Boxes - US Only



"Not supposed?"  There's no "not supposed" in there, at all, for the first
$900M or so of funding.  Only after that amount is exhausted is the 
program

restricted to OTA-only households.

And at that time, I wonder how they will determine whether a household
already has cable or satellite.

-Original Message-
From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Way OT: Digital to Analog Converter Boxes - US Only

Your not supposed to apply for a coupon if you have cable or satelite
service already. Just sayin.

- Original Message - 
From: "Roger Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:23 AM
Subject: Way OT: Digital to Analog Converter Boxes - US Only


http://www.ntia.doc.gov/dtvcoupon/consumer.html

You might want to grab one of these boxes so you can view broadcast
digital TV in the event your satellite or cable signal is unavailable.


Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388


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FW: Adobe, Omniture in hot water for snooping on CS3 users

2007-12-31 Thread Rod Trent

 

 

 

Feed: Ars Technica
Posted on: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:45 AM
Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Chartier)
Subject: Adobe, Omniture in hot water for snooping on CS3 users

 


A suspiciously-crafted URL disguised as a local IP address has caused an outcry 
over how Adobe's usage statistics are being gathered.

Read 
<http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071231-adobe-omniture-in-hot-water-for-snooping-on-cs3-users.html>
  More...

 <http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~a/arstechnica/BAaf?a=dqKJf2> 

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<http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~f/arstechnica/BAaf?a=brmkWbC>  
<http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~f/arstechnica/BAaf?a=DvoFdLC> 

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Storage Management

2007-12-31 Thread Cesare' A. Ramos

Hello all.

 

Hope all is well.

 

Looking for thoughts and suggestions on storage management solutions for
environment.  We would like a software solution  that can monitor a data
sever and maybe scan PCs.  Based on defined rules, it will remove data
or report for review.

 

We have looked at Veritas Storage Exec Small Business Server and it
seems like a great solution but wanted to see 1 or 2 more.

 

Thanks.

 

Happy New Year to all..

 

CAR


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RE: Windows update icon missing

2007-12-31 Thread Sam Cayze

I think sometimes the icon dissapearing is normal for items such as
definitions, like Defender, which get's updated though Auto Updates...

From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows update icon missing

Besides the point?  He wanted to see a list of updates being installed.
How is my suggestion "beside" the point?  I didn't know off the top of
my head how to get the icon back, but I offered how to get the list at
least.

-- 
Mike Gill

From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows update icon missing

That's besides the point Mike.  I understand what Leif is saying, it's
one of the most irritating things about Windows Update to me.  Used to
be, that when you had an update available, the icon would show in the
taskbar, and stay there until you did something with it.  Now, it
sometimes shows when an update is being downloaded, and then disappears.
Extremely annoying, imo.

Joe Heaton

From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows update icon missing

Go to the windows update website and see the list there?

-- 
Mike Gill

From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows update icon missing

Hi Folks,

In my lab I have a workstation that was sitting turned off at a shelf
for 3 months. The other day I needed it and started it up again.

Now, when I want to turn it off, it is showing me that there are pending
updates that will be installed when I click on "Shut off".

However, there is no Update icon in the systray, so I cannot review what
updates are pending.

How can I fix this? Google gives me thousands of hits on missing icon,
but not what I am looking for.

Happy New Year to ya'll.

Leif

Leif T. Wahlberg
IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
Mob: +886-932-147 774

   +1-206-388-8744
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Windows update icon missing

2007-12-31 Thread Joe Heaton

I know, I didn’t mean my response that badly.  I apologize for any feather 
rufflage (I made up a word, hehe).  That icon thing is just a major pain to 
myself.  If it was visible, I’d check it before I got to the point of logging 
off and having no idea what update it’s trying to install.  And by that point 
it’s a bit late to check the update site…

 

Joe Heaton

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows update icon missing

 

 

Besides the point?  He wanted to see a list of updates being installed.  How is 
my suggestion “beside” the point?  I didn’t know off the top of my head how to 
get the icon back, but I offered how to get the list at least.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows update icon missing

 

 

That’s besides the point Mike.  I understand what Leif is saying, it’s one of 
the most irritating things about Windows Update to me.  Used to be, that when 
you had an update available, the icon would show in the taskbar, and stay there 
until you did something with it.  Now, it sometimes shows when an update is 
being downloaded, and then disappears.  Extremely annoying, imo.

 

Joe Heaton

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows update icon missing

 

 

Go to the windows update website and see the list there?

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows update icon missing

 

 

Hi Folks,

 

In my lab I have a workstation that was sitting turned off at a shelf for 3 
months. The other day I needed it and started it up again.

 

Now, when I want to turn it off, it is showing me that there are pending 
updates that will be installed when I click on “Shut off”.

 

However, there is no Update icon in the systray, so I cannot review what 
updates are pending.

 

How can I fix this? Google gives me thousands of hits on missing icon, but not 
what I am looking for.

 

Happy New Year to ya’ll.

 

Leif

 


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RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

2007-12-31 Thread Jim Majorowicz

Exactly.  :P  Now if you all don't mind, I'm gonna listen to the Sun Bowl.
My Ducks will likely loose, but I'm gonna listen anyway.  I'm stubborn like
that.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SonicWall NAT'ing question

Works out to be the same

On Dec 31, 2007 12:52 PM, NTSysAdmin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I gave you the wrong site.sorry.
>
>
>
> Should have been http://secunia.com/
>
>
>
> S
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:29 PM
>
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve,
>
>
>
> I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you especially when you point
> me to a website that is trying to sell me something, but my guess is that
> any vulnerabilities listed would be for retired product lines. (At least a
> quick check of *CURRENT* Watchguard products seems to indicates  0
> vunribilities, so I'm gonna have to take your word for the rest of it.)
If
> you're gonna qualify a statement like that, you'd better make sure you
> qualify it for both sides.  I'd hazard a guess that *EVERY* product
designed
> as a firewall has at least one vulnerability discovered for it, and that
> *INCLUDES* ISA.  (Don't make me whip out past ISA vulnerabilities and the
> disasters that surrounded them.)  How a company handles those discoveries
is
> far more important.
>
>
>
> My point to Dr. Shinder was that his response was in no way helpful in
> answering the question asked.  Just *ANOTHER* of his flame inducing posts
> that start the same old flame wars that we've all done 100's times in the
> last 10 years.  (My Gawd people, we *HAVE* been answering questions on
this
> list for 10 *YEARS* We're getting old.)  And it seems that you and I are
> taking that bait.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
>  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:50 AM
>
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hmm.
>
>
>
> Check secunia.org for vulnerabilities on all the products you've
> mentioned..then check on compromises on the same products.
>
>
>
> Not 1 report of a compromised ISA protected environment since ISA 2000.
> Can't say that about the rest...
>
>
>
> S
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:15 PM
>
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dr. Shinder,
>
>
>
> Despite what you seem to want to believe there are other equally good
(Even
> better, IMHO) firewalls out there that come in appliances.  That's not to
> say that ISA isn't a good product, as it has it's uses, but so do
SonicWall,
> Watchguard and Checkpoint products.  If you can't add to a discussion in a
> way that helps the poster resolve their problem, I would suggest you
refrain
> from posting, if only to keep guys like Mr. Ely and Mr. Shook from
grabbing
> pitchforks and torches and stirring up the locals into a mob looking to
put
> your neck in a noose.. Again.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 1:25 PM
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question
>
>
>
>
>
> ASA?
>
> ACK! Why didn't you use an ISA firewall? Much more secure and many fewer
> security issues.
>
>
>
> Only a fool would use an ASA, IMHO.
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:27 PM
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: SonicWall NAT'ing question
>
>
>
>
>
> SonicWall Pro 1260 w/enhanced OS
>
>
>
> I need to configure this box to NAT/PAT for a new network (10.101.2.x/24)
I
> just brought online.  This sonicwall is only going to be in service for a
> few more weeks, as I'm migrating to a new ASA 5510.  I did figure out the
> routing on the sonicwall so it can get to the aforementioned network but
> nodes on that network can't get to the Internet.  Do I create a new NAT
> policy?  What am I missing?
>
>
>
>
> Shook
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook

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RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

2007-12-31 Thread Jim Majorowicz

I was bored this morning.  I'm so sorry I said that.Now.  Should have just
left my jab at Shook and been done with it.  :P

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

Um, when are we going to learn to ignore the trolls?  Feeding them (by
responding) is what they live for.  Ignore them and they'll become bored and
go away.

One has to wonder if this particular troll doesn't get some benefit ($
payment from somebody) for stirring up this conversation every now and then,
since it happens almost like clockwork.

  _  

From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

Dr. Shinder,

Despite what you seem to want to believe there are other equally good (Even
better, IMHO) firewalls out there that come in appliances.  That's not to
say that ISA isn't a good product, as it has it's uses, but so do SonicWall,
Watchguard and Checkpoint products.  If you can't add to a discussion in a
way that helps the poster resolve their problem, I would suggest you refrain
from posting, if only to keep guys like Mr. Ely and Mr. Shook from grabbing
pitchforks and torches and stirring up the locals into a mob looking to put
your neck in a noose.. Again.

From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

ASA?

ACK! Why didn't you use an ISA firewall? Much more secure and many fewer
security issues.

Only a fool would use an ASA, IMHO.

HTH,

Tom

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SonicWall NAT'ing question

SonicWall Pro 1260 w/enhanced OS

I need to configure this box to NAT/PAT for a new network (10.101.2.x/24) I
just brought online.  This sonicwall is only going to be in service for a
few more weeks, as I'm migrating to a new ASA 5510.  I did figure out the
routing on the sonicwall so it can get to the aforementioned network but
nodes on that network can't get to the Internet.  Do I create a new NAT
policy?  What am I missing? 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  

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Re: SonicWall NAT'ing question

2007-12-31 Thread Steve Ens

Works out to be the same

On Dec 31, 2007 12:52 PM, NTSysAdmin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I gave you the wrong site…sorry.
>
>
>
> Should have been http://secunia.com/
>
>
>
> S
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:29 PM
>
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve,
>
>
>
> I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you especially when you point
> me to a website that is trying to sell me something, but my guess is that
> any vulnerabilities listed would be for retired product lines. (At least a
> quick check of *CURRENT* Watchguard products seems to indicates  0
> vunribilities, so I'm gonna have to take your word for the rest of it.)  If
> you're gonna qualify a statement like that, you'd better make sure you
> qualify it for both sides.  I'd hazard a guess that *EVERY* product designed
> as a firewall has at least one vulnerability discovered for it, and that
> *INCLUDES* ISA.  (Don't make me whip out past ISA vulnerabilities and the
> disasters that surrounded them.)  How a company handles those discoveries is
> far more important.
>
>
>
> My point to Dr. Shinder was that his response was in no way helpful in
> answering the question asked.  Just *ANOTHER* of his flame inducing posts
> that start the same old flame wars that we've all done 100's times in the
> last 10 years.  (My Gawd people, we *HAVE* been answering questions on this
> list for 10 *YEARS* We're getting old…)  And it seems that you and I are
> taking that bait.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
>  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:50 AM
>
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hmm…
>
>
>
> Check secunia.org for vulnerabilities on all the products you've
> mentioned……then check on compromises on the same products.
>
>
>
> Not 1 report of a compromised ISA protected environment since ISA 2000.
> Can't say that about the rest…….
>
>
>
> S
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:15 PM
>
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dr. Shinder,
>
>
>
> Despite what you seem to want to believe there are other equally good (Even
> better, IMHO) firewalls out there that come in appliances.  That's not to
> say that ISA isn't a good product, as it has it's uses, but so do SonicWall,
> Watchguard and Checkpoint products.  If you can't add to a discussion in a
> way that helps the poster resolve their problem, I would suggest you refrain
> from posting, if only to keep guys like Mr. Ely and Mr. Shook from grabbing
> pitchforks and torches and stirring up the locals into a mob looking to put
> your neck in a noose…. Again.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 1:25 PM
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question
>
>
>
>
>
> ASA?
>
> ACK! Why didn't you use an ISA firewall? Much more secure and many fewer
> security issues.
>
>
>
> Only a fool would use an ASA, IMHO.
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:27 PM
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: SonicWall NAT'ing question
>
>
>
>
>
> SonicWall Pro 1260 w/enhanced OS
>
>
>
> I need to configure this box to NAT/PAT for a new network (10.101.2.x/24) I
> just brought online.  This sonicwall is only going to be in service for a
> few more weeks, as I'm migrating to a new ASA 5510.  I did figure out the
> routing on the sonicwall so it can get to the aforementioned network but
> nodes on that network can't get to the Internet.  Do I create a new NAT
> policy?  What am I missing?
>
>
>
>
> Shook
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook

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RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

2007-12-31 Thread NTSysAdmin

I gave you the wrong site...sorry.

Should have been http://secunia.com/

S

From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

Steve,

I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you especially when you point me 
to a website that is trying to sell me something, but my guess is that any 
vulnerabilities listed would be for retired product lines. (At least a quick 
check of *CURRENT* Watchguard products seems to indicates  0 vunribilities, so 
I'm gonna have to take your word for the rest of it.)  If you're gonna qualify 
a statement like that, you'd better make sure you qualify it for both sides.  
I'd hazard a guess that *EVERY* product designed as a firewall has at least one 
vulnerability discovered for it, and that *INCLUDES* ISA.  (Don't make me whip 
out past ISA vulnerabilities and the disasters that surrounded them.)  How a 
company handles those discoveries is far more important.

My point to Dr. Shinder was that his response was in no way helpful in 
answering the question asked.  Just *ANOTHER* of his flame inducing posts that 
start the same old flame wars that we've all done 100's times in the last 10 
years.  (My Gawd people, we *HAVE* been answering questions on this list for 10 
*YEARS* We're getting old...)  And it seems that you and I are taking that bait.

From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

Hmm...

Check secunia.org for vulnerabilities on all the products you've 
mentioned..then check on compromises on the same products.

Not 1 report of a compromised ISA protected environment since ISA 2000. Can't 
say that about the rest...

S

From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

Dr. Shinder,

Despite what you seem to want to believe there are other equally good (Even 
better, IMHO) firewalls out there that come in appliances.  That's not to say 
that ISA isn't a good product, as it has it's uses, but so do SonicWall, 
Watchguard and Checkpoint products.  If you can't add to a discussion in a way 
that helps the poster resolve their problem, I would suggest you refrain from 
posting, if only to keep guys like Mr. Ely and Mr. Shook from grabbing 
pitchforks and torches and stirring up the locals into a mob looking to put 
your neck in a noose Again.

From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

ASA?
ACK! Why didn't you use an ISA firewall? Much more secure and many fewer 
security issues.

Only a fool would use an ASA, IMHO.

HTH,
Tom

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SonicWall NAT'ing question

SonicWall Pro 1260 w/enhanced OS

I need to configure this box to NAT/PAT for a new network (10.101.2.x/24) I 
just brought online.  This sonicwall is only going to be in service for a few 
more weeks, as I'm migrating to a new ASA 5510.  I did figure out the routing 
on the sonicwall so it can get to the aforementioned network but nodes on that 
network can't get to the Internet.  Do I create a new NAT policy?  What am I 
missing?

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook

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RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

2007-12-31 Thread Carl Houseman

Um, when are we going to learn to ignore the trolls?  Feeding them (by
responding) is what they live for.  Ignore them and they'll become bored and
go away.
 
One has to wonder if this particular troll doesn't get some benefit ($
payment from somebody) for stirring up this conversation every now and then,
since it happens almost like clockwork.

  _  

From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question




Dr. Shinder,

 

Despite what you seem to want to believe there are other equally good (Even
better, IMHO) firewalls out there that come in appliances.  That's not to
say that ISA isn't a good product, as it has it's uses, but so do SonicWall,
Watchguard and Checkpoint products.  If you can't add to a discussion in a
way that helps the poster resolve their problem, I would suggest you refrain
from posting, if only to keep guys like Mr. Ely and Mr. Shook from grabbing
pitchforks and torches and stirring up the locals into a mob looking to put
your neck in a noose.. Again.

 

 

From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

 

 

ASA?

ACK! Why didn't you use an ISA firewall? Much more secure and many fewer
security issues.

 

Only a fool would use an ASA, IMHO.

 

HTH,

Tom

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SonicWall NAT'ing question

 

 

SonicWall Pro 1260 w/enhanced OS

 

I need to configure this box to NAT/PAT for a new network (10.101.2.x/24) I
just brought online.  This sonicwall is only going to be in service for a
few more weeks, as I'm migrating to a new ASA 5510.  I did figure out the
routing on the sonicwall so it can get to the aforementioned network but
nodes on that network can't get to the Internet.  Do I create a new NAT
policy?  What am I missing? 

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  

 

 

 














 
 


 

 







 


















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RE: Windows update icon missing

2007-12-31 Thread Mike Gill

Besides the point?  He wanted to see a list of updates being installed.  How
is my suggestion "beside" the point?  I didn't know off the top of my head
how to get the icon back, but I offered how to get the list at least.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows update icon missing

 

 

That's besides the point Mike.  I understand what Leif is saying, it's one
of the most irritating things about Windows Update to me.  Used to be, that
when you had an update available, the icon would show in the taskbar, and
stay there until you did something with it.  Now, it sometimes shows when an
update is being downloaded, and then disappears.  Extremely annoying, imo.

 

Joe Heaton

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows update icon missing

 

 

Go to the windows update website and see the list there?

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows update icon missing

 

 

Hi Folks,

 

In my lab I have a workstation that was sitting turned off at a shelf for 3
months. The other day I needed it and started it up again.

 

Now, when I want to turn it off, it is showing me that there are pending
updates that will be installed when I click on "Shut off".

 

However, there is no Update icon in the systray, so I cannot review what
updates are pending.

 

How can I fix this? Google gives me thousands of hits on missing icon, but
not what I am looking for.

 

Happy New Year to ya'll.

 

Leif

 


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IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
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RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

2007-12-31 Thread Jim Majorowicz

Steve,

 

I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you especially when you point
me to a website that is trying to sell me something, but my guess is that
any vulnerabilities listed would be for retired product lines. (At least a
quick check of *CURRENT* Watchguard products seems to indicates  0
vunribilities, so I'm gonna have to take your word for the rest of it.)  If
you're gonna qualify a statement like that, you'd better make sure you
qualify it for both sides.  I'd hazard a guess that *EVERY* product designed
as a firewall has at least one vulnerability discovered for it, and that
*INCLUDES* ISA.  (Don't make me whip out past ISA vulnerabilities and the
disasters that surrounded them.)  How a company handles those discoveries is
far more important.

 

My point to Dr. Shinder was that his response was in no way helpful in
answering the question asked.  Just *ANOTHER* of his flame inducing posts
that start the same old flame wars that we've all done 100's times in the
last 10 years.  (My Gawd people, we *HAVE* been answering questions on this
list for 10 *YEARS* We're getting old.)  And it seems that you and I are
taking that bait.

 

From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

 

 

Hmm.

 

Check secunia.org for vulnerabilities on all the products you've
mentioned..then check on compromises on the same products.

 

Not 1 report of a compromised ISA protected environment since ISA 2000.
Can't say that about the rest...

 

S

 

From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

 

 

Dr. Shinder,

 

Despite what you seem to want to believe there are other equally good (Even
better, IMHO) firewalls out there that come in appliances.  That's not to
say that ISA isn't a good product, as it has it's uses, but so do SonicWall,
Watchguard and Checkpoint products.  If you can't add to a discussion in a
way that helps the poster resolve their problem, I would suggest you refrain
from posting, if only to keep guys like Mr. Ely and Mr. Shook from grabbing
pitchforks and torches and stirring up the locals into a mob looking to put
your neck in a noose.. Again.

 

 

From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

 

 

ASA?

ACK! Why didn't you use an ISA firewall? Much more secure and many fewer
security issues.

 

Only a fool would use an ASA, IMHO.

 

HTH,

Tom

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SonicWall NAT'ing question

 

 

SonicWall Pro 1260 w/enhanced OS

 

I need to configure this box to NAT/PAT for a new network (10.101.2.x/24) I
just brought online.  This sonicwall is only going to be in service for a
few more weeks, as I'm migrating to a new ASA 5510.  I did figure out the
routing on the sonicwall so it can get to the aforementioned network but
nodes on that network can't get to the Internet.  Do I create a new NAT
policy?  What am I missing? 

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  

 

 

 
























































 
 


 

 




























 


 

 














 


 

 







 


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RE: Adobe rant resumes...

2007-12-31 Thread John Shaw-Miller

Well I know for a fact that one works - I have deployed it in live a
little while ago


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 31 December 2007 14:56
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe rant resumes...

Thanks!

I'd tried that before I actually pushed the "send" button for the
rant...
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/31/2007 08:54:08 AM:

> I haven't checked with the very latest version, but at least 
> previously with v8.x.x, the .exe that you can get from Adobe (the 
> ~20MB one) contains an MSI file inside. After it unpacks, you can 
> snaffle the MSI for GPO based deployment
> 
> HTH
> 
> Cheers
> Ken
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Adobe rant resumes...
> 
> Greetings!
> 
> For the past month or so, I've been reading about vulnerabilites in
> "Flash".  I went to the Adobe sites (both HTTP and FTP) looking for an
> MSI-based patch and could not find one...
> 
> Does one exist?  If not, how are folks out there forcing updates for 
this?
>  Thanks!
> 
> 
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RE: WM5 or WM6 ?

2007-12-31 Thread Sam Cayze

I am holding out for the Treo 800w - I can't stand WM5...   IMO.

From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WM5 or WM6 ?

Depending on your carrier there are equivalent WM6 phones for most WM5
form factors. I personally love the new WM6 blackjack (3G, Wifi, GPS,
etc...) as it was a pretty close and simple transition from the
blackberry and also if your wanting to have the power of windows as a
platform on your phone but the power of blackberry as messaging system
you can look into windows phones with blackberry connect. Generally
though the advantage of WM6 is usability improvements on the phone
although it is still missing a lot of basics compared to the blackberry,
like copy and paste (for non-touch screen WM) but there is a 6.1 update
coming soon which improves usability even more so. Generally with
Microsoft it seems the latest, the greatest, although Vista might be the
first exception to that rule.

-Marc Maiffret

From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: WM5 or WM6 ?

Thank you.

Not really much more considering many features require Exch2k7

GuidoElia

HELPPC

Da: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: domenica 30 dicembre 2007 12.54
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: WM5 or WM6 ?

Here's a doc on WM6 features...

http://myitforum.com/cs2/files/folders/prodsheets/entry104696.aspx 

From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 3:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WM5 or WM6 ?

Not finding so many smartphones with WM6 compared to models  with WM5 I
would like to know what am I missing with WM5 implemented in SBS envs.

TIA 

GuidoElia 
HELPPC 

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RE: WM5 or WM6 ?

2007-12-31 Thread Rod Trent

And, as with any product, YMMV.  Those are some very black and white
statements that don't speak for everyone.

From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WM5 or WM6 ?

I wouldn't say Vista is the first, it seems that every other OS from
Microsoft is a "bad" OS.  I had a bad feeling about Vista long before it was
released.

Joe Heaton

From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WM5 or WM6 ?

Depending on your carrier there are equivalent WM6 phones for most WM5 form
factors. I personally love the new WM6 blackjack (3G, Wifi, GPS, etc.) as it
was a pretty close and simple transition from the blackberry and also if
your wanting to have the power of windows as a platform on your phone but
the power of blackberry as messaging system you can look into windows phones
with blackberry connect. Generally though the advantage of WM6 is usability
improvements on the phone although it is still missing a lot of basics
compared to the blackberry, like copy and paste (for non-touch screen WM)
but there is a 6.1 update coming soon which improves usability even more so.
Generally with Microsoft it seems the latest, the greatest, although Vista
might be the first exception to that rule.

-Marc Maiffret

From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: WM5 or WM6 ?

Thank you.

Not really much more considering many features require Exch2k7

GuidoElia

HELPPC

  _  

Da: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: domenica 30 dicembre 2007 12.54
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: WM5 or WM6 ?

Here's a doc on WM6 features.

http://myitforum.com/cs2/files/folders/prodsheets/entry104696.aspx 

From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 3:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WM5 or WM6 ?

Not finding so many smartphones with WM6 compared to models  with WM5 I
would like to know what am I missing with WM5 implemented in SBS envs.

TIA 

GuidoElia 
HELPPC 

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RE: Windows update icon missing

2007-12-31 Thread Sam Cayze

This should do the trick:  (Props to whomever wrote it, it wasn't me).
If that doesn't work, google 'Dail-a-fix', it has an option to reset
automatic updates as well (Although, I think it does the same things in
this script...)
 
rem *** FIXWSUS.CMD
*
net stop wuauserv
 
regsvr32 /s wuapi.dll
 
regsvr32 /s wups.dll
 
regsvr32 /s wuaueng.dll
 
regsvr32 /s wucltui.dll
 
regsvr32 /s msxml3.dll
 
c:
cd %windir%\SoftwareDistribution
rd /s/q DataStore
mkdir DataStore
rd /s/q Download
mkdir Download
 
net start wuauserv
 
rem Fixes problem with client machines not showing up on the server due
to imaging method
 
reg delete HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate
/v AccountDomainSid /f
reg delete HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate
/v PingID /f
reg delete HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate
/v SusClientId /f
cls
@echo Triggering detection after resetting WSUS client identity
net stop "Automatic Updates"
net start "Automatic Updates"
wuauclt /resetauthorization /detectnow
echo susid set to unique>c:\wsusfix.txt




From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows update icon missing




That's besides the point Mike.  I understand what Leif is saying, it's
one of the most irritating things about Windows Update to me.  Used to
be, that when you had an update available, the icon would show in the
taskbar, and stay there until you did something with it.  Now, it
sometimes shows when an update is being downloaded, and then disappears.
Extremely annoying, imo.

 

Joe Heaton

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows update icon missing

 

 

Go to the windows update website and see the list there?

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows update icon missing

 

 

Hi Folks,

 

In my lab I have a workstation that was sitting turned off at a shelf
for 3 months. The other day I needed it and started it up again.

 

Now, when I want to turn it off, it is showing me that there are pending
updates that will be installed when I click on "Shut off".

 

However, there is no Update icon in the systray, so I cannot review what
updates are pending.

 

How can I fix this? Google gives me thousands of hits on missing icon,
but not what I am looking for.

 

Happy New Year to ya'll.

 

Leif

 

 



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IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
Mob: +886-932-147 774

   +1-206-388-8744
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 

 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

2007-12-31 Thread NTSysAdmin

Hmm...

Check secunia.org for vulnerabilities on all the products you've 
mentioned..then check on compromises on the same products.

Not 1 report of a compromised ISA protected environment since ISA 2000. Can't 
say that about the rest...

S

From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question


Dr. Shinder,

Despite what you seem to want to believe there are other equally good (Even 
better, IMHO) firewalls out there that come in appliances.  That's not to say 
that ISA isn't a good product, as it has it's uses, but so do SonicWall, 
Watchguard and Checkpoint products.  If you can't add to a discussion in a way 
that helps the poster resolve their problem, I would suggest you refrain from 
posting, if only to keep guys like Mr. Ely and Mr. Shook from grabbing 
pitchforks and torches and stirring up the locals into a mob looking to put 
your neck in a noose Again.


From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question


ASA?
ACK! Why didn't you use an ISA firewall? Much more secure and many fewer 
security issues.

Only a fool would use an ASA, IMHO.

HTH,
Tom

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SonicWall NAT'ing question


SonicWall Pro 1260 w/enhanced OS

I need to configure this box to NAT/PAT for a new network (10.101.2.x/24) I 
just brought online.  This sonicwall is only going to be in service for a few 
more weeks, as I'm migrating to a new ASA 5510.  I did figure out the routing 
on the sonicwall so it can get to the aforementioned network but nodes on that 
network can't get to the Internet.  Do I create a new NAT policy?  What am I 
missing?

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook




























































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RE: Windows update icon missing

2007-12-31 Thread Joe Heaton

That’s besides the point Mike.  I understand what Leif is saying, it’s one of 
the most irritating things about Windows Update to me.  Used to be, that when 
you had an update available, the icon would show in the taskbar, and stay there 
until you did something with it.  Now, it sometimes shows when an update is 
being downloaded, and then disappears.  Extremely annoying, imo.

 

Joe Heaton

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows update icon missing

 

 

Go to the windows update website and see the list there?

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows update icon missing

 

 

Hi Folks,

 

In my lab I have a workstation that was sitting turned off at a shelf for 3 
months. The other day I needed it and started it up again.

 

Now, when I want to turn it off, it is showing me that there are pending 
updates that will be installed when I click on “Shut off”.

 

However, there is no Update icon in the systray, so I cannot review what 
updates are pending.

 

How can I fix this? Google gives me thousands of hits on missing icon, but not 
what I am looking for.

 

Happy New Year to ya’ll.

 

Leif

 


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IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
Mob: +886-932-147 774

   +1-206-388-8744
Mail: HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 

 

 














 
 


 

 







 


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RE: WM5 or WM6 ?

2007-12-31 Thread Joe Heaton

I wouldn’t say Vista is the first, it seems that every other OS from Microsoft 
is a “bad” OS.  I had a bad feeling about Vista long before it was released…

 

Joe Heaton

 

From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WM5 or WM6 ?

 

 

Depending on your carrier there are equivalent WM6 phones for most WM5 form 
factors. I personally love the new WM6 blackjack (3G, Wifi, GPS, etc…) as it 
was a pretty close and simple transition from the blackberry and also if your 
wanting to have the power of windows as a platform on your phone but the power 
of blackberry as messaging system you can look into windows phones with 
blackberry connect. Generally though the advantage of WM6 is usability 
improvements on the phone although it is still missing a lot of basics compared 
to the blackberry, like copy and paste (for non-touch screen WM) but there is a 
6.1 update coming soon which improves usability even more so. Generally with 
Microsoft it seems the latest, the greatest, although Vista might be the first 
exception to that rule.

 

-Marc Maiffret

 

From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: WM5 or WM6 ?

 

 

Thank you.

Not really much more considering many features require Exch2k7

 

GuidoElia

HELPPC

 

 

   _  

Da: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: domenica 30 dicembre 2007 12.54
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: WM5 or WM6 ?

 

Here’s a doc on WM6 features…

 

HYPERLINK 
"http://myitforum.com/cs2/files/folders/prodsheets/entry104696.aspx"http://myitforum.com/cs2/files/folders/prodsheets/entry104696.aspx
 

 

From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 3:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WM5 or WM6 ?

 

 

 

 

Not finding so many smartphones with WM6 compared to models  with WM5 I would 
like to know what am I missing with WM5 implemented in SBS envs.

TIA 

GuidoElia 
HELPPC 

 

 














 














 
 
 


 















 
 

 
 
 

 

 














 
 


 

 







 


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RE: Windows update icon missing

2007-12-31 Thread Mike Gill

Go to the windows update website and see the list there?

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows update icon missing

 

 

Hi Folks,

 

In my lab I have a workstation that was sitting turned off at a shelf for 3
months. The other day I needed it and started it up again.

 

Now, when I want to turn it off, it is showing me that there are pending
updates that will be installed when I click on "Shut off".

 

However, there is no Update icon in the systray, so I cannot review what
updates are pending.

 

How can I fix this? Google gives me thousands of hits on missing icon, but
not what I am looking for.

 

Happy New Year to ya'll.

 

Leif

 


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IT Consultant & Ancient Pilot
Mob: +886-932-147 774

   +1-206-388-8744
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 

 

 







 


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RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

2007-12-31 Thread Andy Shook

Naw, Tom is now the Britney Spears of this list and he needs to booted
off...(hint to Stu)

 

Andy



From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

 

 

Now Shook.  Thinly veiled threats?  You usually don't try that hard.
Did you make a New Year's resolution to try and be nicer next year?  :P

 

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 4:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

 

 

IMHO...funny

 

There's nothing humble about your sad devotion to that ancient
religion...I mean firewall.  I would think someone who depends on people
like me for your livelihood, would have a little more couth but once
again you are determined to show your butt and general lack of people
skills.  I really hope we get to meet one day so I can introduce you to
the redneck way of dealing with "men" like yourself.   

 

Shook

 



From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

 

 

ASA?

ACK! Why didn't you use an ISA firewall? Much more secure and many fewer
security issues.

 

Only a fool would use an ASA, IMHO.

 

HTH,

Tom

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SonicWall NAT'ing question

 

 

SonicWall Pro 1260 w/enhanced OS

 

I need to configure this box to NAT/PAT for a new network
(10.101.2.x/24) I just brought online.  This sonicwall is only going to
be in service for a few more weeks, as I'm migrating to a new ASA 5510.
I did figure out the routing on the sonicwall so it can get to the
aforementioned network but nodes on that network can't get to the
Internet.  Do I create a new NAT policy?  What am I missing? 

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  

 

 

 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 


 

 










 










 
 
 


 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

2007-12-31 Thread Jim Majorowicz

Dr. Shinder,

 

Despite what you seem to want to believe there are other equally good (Even
better, IMHO) firewalls out there that come in appliances.  That's not to
say that ISA isn't a good product, as it has it's uses, but so do SonicWall,
Watchguard and Checkpoint products.  If you can't add to a discussion in a
way that helps the poster resolve their problem, I would suggest you refrain
from posting, if only to keep guys like Mr. Ely and Mr. Shook from grabbing
pitchforks and torches and stirring up the locals into a mob looking to put
your neck in a noose.. Again.

 

 

From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

 

 

ASA?

ACK! Why didn't you use an ISA firewall? Much more secure and many fewer
security issues.

 

Only a fool would use an ASA, IMHO.

 

HTH,

Tom

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SonicWall NAT'ing question

 

 

SonicWall Pro 1260 w/enhanced OS

 

I need to configure this box to NAT/PAT for a new network (10.101.2.x/24) I
just brought online.  This sonicwall is only going to be in service for a
few more weeks, as I'm migrating to a new ASA 5510.  I did figure out the
routing on the sonicwall so it can get to the aforementioned network but
nodes on that network can't get to the Internet.  Do I create a new NAT
policy?  What am I missing? 

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  

 

 

 














 
 


 

 







 


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RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

2007-12-31 Thread Jim Majorowicz

Now Shook.  Thinly veiled threats?  You usually don't try that hard.  Did
you make a New Year's resolution to try and be nicer next year?  :P

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 4:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

IMHO.funny

There's nothing humble about your sad devotion to that ancient religion.I
mean firewall.  I would think someone who depends on people like me for your
livelihood, would have a little more couth but once again you are determined
to show your butt and general lack of people skills.  I really hope we get
to meet one day so I can introduce you to the redneck way of dealing with
"men" like yourself.   

Shook

  _  

From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

ASA?

ACK! Why didn't you use an ISA firewall? Much more secure and many fewer
security issues.

Only a fool would use an ASA, IMHO.

HTH,

Tom

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SonicWall NAT'ing question

SonicWall Pro 1260 w/enhanced OS

I need to configure this box to NAT/PAT for a new network (10.101.2.x/24) I
just brought online.  This sonicwall is only going to be in service for a
few more weeks, as I'm migrating to a new ASA 5510.  I did figure out the
routing on the sonicwall so it can get to the aforementioned network but
nodes on that network can't get to the Internet.  Do I create a new NAT
policy?  What am I missing? 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  

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Re: Adobe rant resumes...

2007-12-31 Thread RichardMcClary

Thanks!

For a "free account", they make it close to impossible to sign up though! 
See subject line...
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Robert Cato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/31/2007 09:48:47 AM:

> 
> Not the easiest thing to find on the Adobe site
> 
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=b0dba60b#deploy
> This includes a link to their licensing page 
http://www.adobe.com/licensing/
> where you need to sign up so they know who is distributing their 
> code. Once you sign up they will send you a link to a page where you
> can download Flash and/or Shockwave players. 
> 
> HTH,
> Robert 

> On Dec 31, 2007 9:37 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings!
> 
> For the past month or so, I've been reading about vulnerabilites in
> "Flash".  I went to the Adobe sites (both HTTP and FTP) looking for an 
> MSI-based patch and could not find one...
> 
> Does one exist?  If not, how are folks out there forcing updates for 
this?
>  Thanks!
> --
> Richard McClary, Systems Administrator 
> ASPCA Knowledge Management
> 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
> 217-337-9761
> http://www.aspca.org

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: Adobe rant resumes...

2007-12-31 Thread Robert Cato

Not the easiest thing to find on the Adobe site
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=b0dba60b#deploy
This includes a link to their licensing page
http://www.adobe.com/licensing/ where
you need to sign up so they know who is distributing their code. Once you
sign up they will send you a link to a page where you can download Flash
and/or Shockwave players.

HTH,
Robert

On Dec 31, 2007 9:37 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Greetings!
>
> For the past month or so, I've been reading about vulnerabilites in
> "Flash".  I went to the Adobe sites (both HTTP and FTP) looking for an
> MSI-based patch and could not find one...
>
> Does one exist?  If not, how are folks out there forcing updates for this?
>  Thanks!
> --
> Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
> ASPCA Knowledge Management
> 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
> 217-337-9761
> http://www.aspca.org
>
>

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RE: Terminal Server and Developer images

2007-12-31 Thread Steve Kelsay

Yeah, I would like to do that. That is why I am asking for other
people's experience. The developers will be using a VPN to connect, then
the management wants to use terminal services to advertise the various
development packages and code archiving software. I think a virtual
desktop or other VM solution would be better, but I have no experience
with these in a remote development environment either. We do use Vmware
extensively. 

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 8:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Terminal Server and Developer images

 

 

Alternatives? Give your developers a virtualised development environment
to use? They could either run VMs on their local workstations, or
connect to VMs running on a central set of servers (or some combination
thereof). 

 

That would allow you to completely isolate your production environment
from test/dev/UAT environments, yet allow you to have exact replicas of
production in each of your other environments.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2008 12:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Terminal Server and Developer images

 

 

That pretty much says it. My management wants to create a server with
developer software on it, and have developers from across the country
remote in and all use the terminal server to develop systems.
 
Has anyone tried this with developer software? Microsoft has, in the
past, indicated that multiple users on their development software is not
a good idea and they did not support it. 
 
Any ideas on alternatives?









 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 
 


 

 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 


 

 










 










 
 
 


 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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RE: Way OT: Digital to Analog Converter Boxes - US Only

2007-12-31 Thread Carl Houseman

"Not supposed?"  There's no "not supposed" in there, at all, for the first
$900M or so of funding.  Only after that amount is exhausted is the program
restricted to OTA-only households.

And at that time, I wonder how they will determine whether a household
already has cable or satellite.

-Original Message-
From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Way OT: Digital to Analog Converter Boxes - US Only

Your not supposed to apply for a coupon if you have cable or satelite 
service already. Just sayin.

- Original Message - 
From: "Roger Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:23 AM
Subject: Way OT: Digital to Analog Converter Boxes - US Only


http://www.ntia.doc.gov/dtvcoupon/consumer.html

You might want to grab one of these boxes so you can view broadcast
digital TV in the event your satellite or cable signal is unavailable.


Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388


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RE: Adobe rant resumes...

2007-12-31 Thread RichardMcClary

Thanks!

I'd tried that before I actually pushed the "send" button for the rant...
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/31/2007 08:54:08 AM:

> I haven't checked with the very latest version, but at least 
> previously with v8.x.x, the .exe that you can get from Adobe (the 
> ~20MB one) contains an MSI file inside. After it unpacks, you can 
> snaffle the MSI for GPO based deployment
> 
> HTH
> 
> Cheers
> Ken
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2008 1:37 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Adobe rant resumes...
> 
> Greetings!
> 
> For the past month or so, I've been reading about vulnerabilites in
> "Flash".  I went to the Adobe sites (both HTTP and FTP) looking for an
> MSI-based patch and could not find one...
> 
> Does one exist?  If not, how are folks out there forcing updates for 
this?
>  Thanks!
> 
> 
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RE: Adobe rant resumes...

2007-12-31 Thread Ken Schaefer

I haven't checked with the very latest version, but at least previously with 
v8.x.x, the .exe that you can get from Adobe (the ~20MB one) contains an MSI 
file inside. After it unpacks, you can snaffle the MSI for GPO based deployment

HTH

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2008 1:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Adobe rant resumes...

Greetings!

For the past month or so, I've been reading about vulnerabilites in
"Flash".  I went to the Adobe sites (both HTTP and FTP) looking for an
MSI-based patch and could not find one...

Does one exist?  If not, how are folks out there forcing updates for this?
 Thanks!


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RE: Way OT: Digital to Analog Converter Boxes - US Only

2007-12-31 Thread Roger Wright

True, but if you need to receive digital broadcasts via an external
antenna on an older set w/o a digital turner, a conversion box will be
necessary.  I want one for emergency use.


Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388


Useless Invention #273:  Luminous sun-dial, for use at night. 


-Original Message-
From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Way OT: Digital to Analog Converter Boxes - US Only

Your not supposed to apply for a coupon if you have cable or satelite
service already. Just sayin.

- Original Message -
From: "Roger Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:23 AM
Subject: Way OT: Digital to Analog Converter Boxes - US Only


http://www.ntia.doc.gov/dtvcoupon/consumer.html

You might want to grab one of these boxes so you can view broadcast
digital TV in the event your satellite or cable signal is unavailable.


Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388


To teach is to learn.


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Re: Way OT: Digital to Analog Converter Boxes - US Only

2007-12-31 Thread James Kerr

Your not supposed to apply for a coupon if you have cable or satelite 
service already. Just sayin.

- Original Message - 
From: "Roger Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:23 AM
Subject: Way OT: Digital to Analog Converter Boxes - US Only

http://www.ntia.doc.gov/dtvcoupon/consumer.html

You might want to grab one of these boxes so you can view broadcast
digital TV in the event your satellite or cable signal is unavailable.

Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388

To teach is to learn.

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Adobe rant resumes...

2007-12-31 Thread RichardMcClary

Greetings!

For the past month or so, I've been reading about vulnerabilites in 
"Flash".  I went to the Adobe sites (both HTTP and FTP) looking for an 
MSI-based patch and could not find one...

Does one exist?  If not, how are folks out there forcing updates for this? 
 Thanks!
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


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Way OT: Digital to Analog Converter Boxes - US Only

2007-12-31 Thread Roger Wright

http://www.ntia.doc.gov/dtvcoupon/consumer.html

You might want to grab one of these boxes so you can view broadcast
digital TV in the event your satellite or cable signal is unavailable.


Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388


To teach is to learn.


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RE: Looking for a DNS provider

2007-12-31 Thread David Mazzaccaro

I never said I was going to be switching registrars.
I was just wondering why we weren't using our registrar for DNS.
And it was suggested to me that perhaps this was done so that we can switch 
registrars in the event that we would have/want to.
FYI - Discoveries like this happen all the time when you inherit a network.



-Original Message-
From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider

Why do you want talk about registrars like that? I mean, the way it comes
across in your message, you do this often? I would think you would want a
registrar that holds a higher level of confidence in such statements.

Anyway, the point is if you register all your domains at the same registrar,
then you gain ease and convenience in those areas for managing DNS.  I don't
use a tier 1 registrar, but the sub of TUCOWS that I use have not given me
one reason to change in over 4 years of use.  I'm all for splitting up
services but those two go so nicely together I'm wondering why you want to
do what you're doing.

-- 
Mike Gill

> -Original Message-
> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:50 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider
> 
> AH HAH!
> Bingo.
> I am willing to bet that is why we are using a different provider for
> DNS than our registrar.  So that we can switch registrars with no
> problems.
> Thanks!!!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:42 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider
> 
> Oh...and I was going to mention that I like using a dedicated provider
> for
> DNS since it makes changing any other part of your hosting environment
> easier - switching registrar, web host, etc. Not having to re-setup DNS
> when
> those changes are made is nice.
> 
>  - Andy O.
> 
> From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:11 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider
> 
> 
> I was going to mention using the registrar, as I do myself.  The ones
> that I
> have used all have this.  It's just not enabled by default.
> 
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Re: Terminal Server and Developer images

2007-12-31 Thread Jeffrey Showen

Greetings all and Happy New Year!

I am new to your forum and have just been reading the threads at this point
so I may have missed something here but have you considered using VMware Lab
Manager?  VMware Lab Manager is optimized for use across the software
development spectrum and provides functionality like reduced lab cap-ex and
lower op-ex (as with most/all VMware virtualization), acceleration of the
development cycle, improved software quality, and flexible, secure
outsourcing for multiple remote developer desktops.  We are not using it,
but I went to a mini-seminar on Lab Manager earlier this year and it would
really improve our software development process - particularly in the area
of fixing difficult to reproduce bugs.  As always (it seems), the ROI on IT
enablers like this can be difficult to get management to grasp so we press
on and do the best we can without it for now.  If you have allocated budget
for your development lab, this tool could be of great value in modernizing
your software development efforts and in creating an efficient
development process.

Cheers,

Jeff

On Dec 31, 2007 8:52 AM, Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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RE: Terminal Server and Developer images

2007-12-31 Thread Ken Schaefer

Alternatives? Give your developers a virtualised development environment to 
use? They could either run VMs on their local workstations, or connect to VMs 
running on a central set of servers (or some combination thereof).

That would allow you to completely isolate your production environment from 
test/dev/UAT environments, yet allow you to have exact replicas of production 
in each of your other environments.

Cheers
Ken

From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2008 12:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Terminal Server and Developer images



That pretty much says it. My management wants to create a server with developer 
software on it, and have developers from across the country remote in and all 
use the terminal server to develop systems.



Has anyone tried this with developer software? Microsoft has, in the past, 
indicated that multiple users on their development software is not a good idea 
and they did not support it.



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Terminal Server and Developer images

2007-12-31 Thread Steve Kelsay

That pretty much says it. My management wants to create a server with
developer software on it, and have developers from across the country
remote in and all use the terminal server to develop systems.
 
Has anyone tried this with developer software? Microsoft has, in the
past, indicated that multiple users on their development software is not
a good idea and they did not support it. 
 
Any ideas on alternatives?









 
 
 


 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

2007-12-31 Thread Andy Shook

IMHO...funny

 

There's nothing humble about your sad devotion to that ancient
religion...I mean firewall.  I would think someone who depends on people
like me for your livelihood, would have a little more couth but once
again you are determined to show your butt and general lack of people
skills.  I really hope we get to meet one day so I can introduce you to
the redneck way of dealing with "men" like yourself.   

 

Shook

 



From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SonicWall NAT'ing question

 

 

ASA?

ACK! Why didn't you use an ISA firewall? Much more secure and many fewer
security issues.

 

Only a fool would use an ASA, IMHO.

 

HTH,

Tom

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SonicWall NAT'ing question

 

 

SonicWall Pro 1260 w/enhanced OS

 

I need to configure this box to NAT/PAT for a new network
(10.101.2.x/24) I just brought online.  This sonicwall is only going to
be in service for a few more weeks, as I'm migrating to a new ASA 5510.
I did figure out the routing on the sonicwall so it can get to the
aforementioned network but nodes on that network can't get to the
Internet.  Do I create a new NAT policy?  What am I missing? 

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  

 

 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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RE: Most impactful technology Was: Silverlight?

2007-12-31 Thread Andy Shook

Marc,

For me it's been centralized storage (Equallogic iSCSI SAN) and
virtualization (ESX 3.5).  I'm five servers away from having my entire
infrastructure virtualized and this process has totally changed my
thinking and approach to IT as a whole (BC, DR, migrations, warranties,
capacity planning, day-to-day admin tasks, you name it).  Lastly, it may
sound cheesy but I haven't been this excited about a specific technology
in several years, so this whole process is incredibly motivating...

 

Lastly, thanks for your input and assistance on this list; you're one of
the many who make my job easier.

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  



From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Most impactful technology Was: Silverlight?

 

 

First hand knowledge from friends of mine employed at MS that
specifically tell me the who/what/why of things that happen at
Microsoft.

 

You are right Silverlight is a defensive measure, but again that is only
because someone else has already done it right (regardless of security).
Because Flash has done it "right" they are responsible for a technology
that has become an extremely prevalent part of the average consumers
online experience. They are simply reacting to the prevelance of the
technology, forget which company label it falls under, I promise you. I
mean heck you could call it a nobody name like "Netscape." As long as
the _technology_ was a perceived threat to them, in some way, they would
be getting the monkeys to work cloning it in a heartbeat. Either way I
think Silverlight is a good thing, because I think competition is a good
thing. As long as they don't use their market dominance to shove it down
IT administrators throats, because you guys have enough crap to deal
with already.

 

Microsoft is indeed responsible for the explosion of the scroll wheel
but not the inventor or first to do it by any means. There were already
two different companies making scroll wheel mice before Microsoft.
Microsoft did however "invent" and patent the horizontal scroll wheel.
That does not mean that Microsoft's market reach didn't help make the
scroll wheel jjnprolific, but that again is them being good on business
and borrowing on technology.

 

Obviously I am sure Microsoft has invented a lot of things, a quick
patent search would show that. But it is sad when you see companies as
large as Microsoft and never having done half of what places like Xerox
PARC did from a technology innovation perspective. And thus a subtle jab
to my MS Research friend who trolls this list for ideas :-) 

 

Either way not picking on Microsoft, they are undoubtedly one of the
most brilliant companies I will know of in my lifetime, but more for
their business cunning than technology innovation.

 

Which brings me to a question I love hearing answers for, what has been
a recent technology that has had the most impact on you? Could be
something that makes your IT job easier, or could be your car that
parallel parks itself.

 

-Marc Maiffret

Freelance Security Consultant

http://www.marcmaiffret.com

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silverlight?

 

 

Marc,

 

Do you have any inside knowledge on this product? Or is this just your
speculation?

 

Having talked to a few people in the WT&P group, Silverlight started off
as a defensive measure to ward off Adobe. When Macromedia owned Flash,
no one at Microsoft really cared that much about it. Now that Adobe owns
it, people felt that Microsoft couldn't stand still. Nothing to do with
waiting for someone else to make it successful and then copying it. More
to do with "we can't sit buy and have no response"

 

As for innovation - I'm sure Microsoft was the first vendor to put a
scroll wheel on a mouse. I think everyone has them these days.

 

I'm sure they've done a few other things during their time as well.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 30 December 2007 9:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silverlight?

 

 

This is the Microsoft MO and has been for years. They have never
innovated anything in the history of their existence. Well, Microsoft
Bob maybe, hah.

 

Wait for someone else to succeed in doing it right, copy them and use
monopolistic business practices to crush them. There are a million
examples but you already know them all.

 

Things are changing however, Microsoft's, wait, bait, obliterate,
strategy plan is losing legs against companies like Google. Mostly
because the world consumers are being less dependent on the operating
system and more dependent on the services the internet provides as a
platform. But even there Microsoft is trying their damndest to clone
everything that Google and the likes are doing.

 

-Marc Maiffret

Freelance Security Consultant

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