Re: Color Laser Printer recommendations??

[Tom Kluegel]

Good question.  I just bought the paper at Sam's Club,
without any research.  I didn't see any specification
on the package.  I have since given it away.

-- Tom
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  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 05:21
  Subject: Re: Color Laser Printer recommendations??




  Did you print on inkjet glossy paper, or laser glossy paper? 

  We had someone use inkjet glossy paper once in a color laser printer, and the 
heat of the laser printer melted the coating off the paper and really messed up 
the printer. 

  Laser glossy paper is made to withstand the head. 

  Jeff





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  Subject Re: Color Laser Printer recommendations?? 

  

   


  I am very happy with my Dell Color Laser 3110cn.  One 
  small surprise, though, was that it failed miserably 
  at printing on glossy photo paper.  A glossy page with 
  beads of color liquid came out.  To try to clean the 
  mess inside the printer I printed (~8) sheets of plain 
  paper until they came out clean.  It does print fine 
  on matte photo paper. 


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TRANSITION Pack for SBS2k3 Sp1

[HELP_PC]

 


I have to apply a transition pack to a SBS2k3 SP1 (not for moving apps
or adding users just for allowing trust with a corporate domain and
moving users )

Any tip or advice from somebody that experienced that ? 

TIA 

GuidoElia 
HELPPC 


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R: 2003 DC system partition too small

[HELP_PC]

Use Storagecraft, if this is the only DC, to image it.
And restore it to larger array with new disks 


GuidoElia
HELPPC

-Messaggio originale-
Da: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: giovedì 17 gennaio 2008 2.41
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: 2003 DC system partition too small

Why not just install Windows on the new machine and promote it to a DC?
Less filling, tastes great.

Carl

-Original Message-
From: Walt Hundleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: 2003 DC system partition too small

Hello
We have a 2003 DC but the system partition keeps running out of space.  I have 
just freed up a much better server with some differences but I think Ghost 
might work.  I can configure both with the same network cards.  The SCSI disk 
controllers are different but both are HP and use the same drivers (will 
configure both to hardware Raid 1).  The big difference is the old server has 
one CPU and the other server has 2 CPUs.  I think it will Ghost but will it run 
reliably.


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Re: Another pretty good example of why users shouldn't be local admins

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 16 Jan 2008 at 16:00, Eric E Eskam  wrote:

> http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/archive/2008/01/02/2696753.aspx
> 
> Perhaps, if rephrased for the non-technical, this could be a good object
> lesson for managers that don't see the value in controlling local
> administrators? 

Good read.  Final paragraphs:

--- Included Stuff Follows ---
"... this example also illustrates the power of local administrative 
rights. A local administrator is the master of the computer and is able to 
do anything they want, including circumventing domain policies, something 
I covered in a previous blog post, and that's just one more reason 
enterprises should strive to have their end users run as standard users."
- Included Stuff Ends -

The "" linked to in the above paragraph is titled 
"Circumventing Group Policy Settings" and can be read here:
http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/archive/2005/04/30/circumventing-
group-policy-settings.aspx
or here if the above wraps unusably: http://preview.tinyurl.com/2g533p

Third paragraph of the above might be useful in showing managers this stuff:

--- Included Stuff Follows ---
The number of desktop lockdown settings available to group policy 
administrators is enormous. They can prevent you from doing anything from 
changing your desktop appearance and start menu to running certain 
applications. Two commonly applied settings include a pre-configured 
screen saver program so that users don´t waste resources on frivolous 
screen savers, and a screen saver timeout so that systems aren´t left 
indefinitely accessible when a user steps away. When these settings are in 
effect Windows omits the screen saver tab of display properties control 
panel applet or doesn´t let you modify the screen saver or its timeout. 
I´m going to show you how to use the power of being a local administrator 
and Regmon to track down these settings and override them on your own 
system.
- Included Stuff Ends -


--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
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Re: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 16 Jan 2008 at 15:16, Micheal Espinola Jr  wrote:

> Pscha!  Pop while playing toast, you mean. [1]
> 
> 1.  If you get this, you know your slang.  If you don't, do /not/
> Google "playing toast".

I did NOT need to know that.  Blecch!

--
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GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
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Re: SMS 2003 R2 Deployment Plan

[Salvador Manzo]

Greg, 
Should he use the wizards?  (sorry, I had to... )


On 1/16/08 18:13, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> You don't install components separately.  It's a 3 disk install for SBS
> Std, Premium adds ISA and SQL (2 Disks), then R2 a separate disk
> upgrades all your components with the latest on that disk, already old
> with the exception of the R2 components to be installed and updated by
> Sp2.
> 
> You cannot install SBS version and upgrade your windows with any service
> packs or updates before completing the SBS install, it will fail, IIS
> will not configure properly for internal website, etc.  You can disable
> the SP functionality after install, but you have to install it in order
> for SBS to install properly.
> 
> 1.  Install Disk 1, start SBS install
> 2.  Complete SBS install by entering all information and disks when
> prompted
> 3.  Perform updates, SP2, IE7, etc..
> 4.  Perform R2 install.  (Doesn't do much in SBS, just some addons)
> 5.  Install Optional components ISA and SQL 2005
> 6.  Install ISA Updates (Will need for it to work with SP2)
> 7.  Install SQL 2005 SP's
> 8.  Install WSUS (version 2) managed by SBS (version 3) is not but you
> can install it and manage it separately.
> 9.  Configure all of your user accts, computers accts, USING THE
> WIZARDS.. DO NOT Manage like a regular AD network.  MUST DO THROUGH THE
> WIZARDS>>  FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND RIGHT AND HOLY...USE THE
> WIZARDS.
> 10.  Spend the remainder of your days in retirement.  It will take you
> that long to get it all done..
> 
> P.S.  If you have Office 2007 or plan to install it.  Make sure you
> install the 2007 and Vista addons download from MS.  Make sure you also
> when setting up computers you tell it not to install Outlook 2003, just
> the configuration files for autoconfiguring Outlook 2007.
> 
> Greg
> ---
Salvador Manzo  [ 620 W. 35th St - Los Angeles, CA 90089  e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Auxiliary Services IT, Datacenter
University of Southern California
818-612-5112
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty
than to those attending too small a degree of it. Thomas Jefferson to
Archibald Stuart, 1791


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RE: 2003 DC system partition too small

[Ziots, Edward]

Imaging workstation is a PITA, you can slap a new image down, but if you
don't have good Image management, then you are going to get that ugly
variance. 

My question is why image a downed DC? Its down for a reason, either
hardware failure or not, it is far easier to just unpromote it, do the
metadata cleanup from AD and rebuild and repromote. You don't want to
reintroduce an old DC back on to the network, which could have an
outdated version of AD DIT, the same SID/Guids possibly as another DC's
if you was using Ghost as a way to build the existing base server in the
first place, which could cause problems. 

 I don't do Ghost Images or Acronis images for servers period, use good
change management rules and make sure backups work as required and
restore when needed. 

I think I have had to fully restore 3 servers in 9 years of Sys
admining. 

Upgrading memory is a 5 minute thing on most HP servers, pulling drives
and putting in another machine, I got extra RAID adapters on site, along
with extra hard drives and everything has hardware raid so its as easy
and slapping in a new drive and letting it rebuild accordingly. 

Motherboard goes, I got a 4 hr response from my hardware VAR to bring me
a new server and we take stuff out of old server put in the new and
start rocking again, the hardware will be same make model, as the old
system. 


Again mileage will vary, everyones situation is different. 

Workstations is one thing users are always messing them up, servers
which affects 100's if not thousands of users is another thing, and
users don't have access to them so they cant mess them up. 

Z


-Original Message-
From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: 2003 DC system partition too small

Imaging workstations is a PITA only if you do it wrong.

I can understand problems imaging live DCs, but what's the concern with
imaging a downed DC?

How is the downtime to create a Ghost or Acronis image any different
from rebooting it, or powering it off to upgrade the memory, or pulling
the drives and putting them in a different machine?

Ziots, Edward wrote:
> Ghosts and servers for me never mixed. 
> 
> I seen too much ugliness with images on workstations, over my time in
> sysadmin land, why I never subscribed to it in server administration.
> 
> Plus duplicate sids, Guids, etc etc you could really mess up AD
> replication this way. 

-- 

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: 2003 DC system partition too small

[Phil Brutsche]

Imaging workstations is a PITA only if you do it wrong.

I can understand problems imaging live DCs, but what's the concern with
imaging a downed DC?

How is the downtime to create a Ghost or Acronis image any different
from rebooting it, or powering it off to upgrade the memory, or pulling
the drives and putting them in a different machine?

Ziots, Edward wrote:
> Ghosts and servers for me never mixed. 
> 
> I seen too much ugliness with images on workstations, over my time in
> sysadmin land, why I never subscribed to it in server administration.
> 
> Plus duplicate sids, Guids, etc etc you could really mess up AD
> replication this way. 

-- 

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: SMS 2003 R2 Deployment Plan

[gsweers]

You don't install components separately.  It's a 3 disk install for SBS
Std, Premium adds ISA and SQL (2 Disks), then R2 a separate disk
upgrades all your components with the latest on that disk, already old
with the exception of the R2 components to be installed and updated by
Sp2.

You cannot install SBS version and upgrade your windows with any service
packs or updates before completing the SBS install, it will fail, IIS
will not configure properly for internal website, etc.  You can disable
the SP functionality after install, but you have to install it in order
for SBS to install properly.

1.  Install Disk 1, start SBS install
2.  Complete SBS install by entering all information and disks when
prompted
3.  Perform updates, SP2, IE7, etc..
4.  Perform R2 install.  (Doesn't do much in SBS, just some addons)
5.  Install Optional components ISA and SQL 2005
6.  Install ISA Updates (Will need for it to work with SP2)
7.  Install SQL 2005 SP's
8.  Install WSUS (version 2) managed by SBS (version 3) is not but you
can install it and manage it separately.
9.  Configure all of your user accts, computers accts, USING THE
WIZARDS.. DO NOT Manage like a regular AD network.  MUST DO THROUGH THE
WIZARDS>>  FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND RIGHT AND HOLY...USE THE
WIZARDS.
10.  Spend the remainder of your days in retirement.  It will take you
that long to get it all done..

P.S.  If you have Office 2007 or plan to install it.  Make sure you
install the 2007 and Vista addons download from MS.  Make sure you also
when setting up computers you tell it not to install Outlook 2003, just
the configuration files for autoconfiguring Outlook 2007.

Greg


-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SMS 2003 R2 Deployment Plan

I _suspect_ he means SBS, not SMS. But I wasn't certain.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SMS 2003 R2 Deployment Plan

If you don't get an answer, you might check with the SMS list or SMS
forum...

-Original Message-
From: Anatoly Podgoretsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SMS 2003 R2 Deployment Plan

Hi!

In two weeks I need deploy SMS 2003 R2.
My deployment plan is

1. Install Windows Server 2003
2. Install R2
3. IIS (need before SQL Server)
4. SQL Server Workgroup Edition (I want install all base into single
instanse)/
5. Install Domain Controller (this time DNS + DHCP)
6. Install ISA-2006
7. Install Ehchange 2003
8. Install WSUS 3.0

All except Share Point.
Hardware SuperMicro Server with 8 discs, 2 RAID 1 for system, four RAID
10
for data.

Is it right sequence? or I must change sequence?
Please dispute it.

P.S. Experience is, at start of this year I deploy 8 servers, but
Windows
Server 2003 R2 (two are DC, two FS, two DB, one ISA 2006 and one
MDaemon,
not SBS 2003 - there is no Experience yet.

P.P.S. It is for my home network, where I'm single user.

Best regards,
Anatoly Podgoretsky
http://www.podgoretsky.com


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Re: 2003 DC system partition too small

[Kurt Buff]

Option 1) ---> just turn the new machine into as DC, as the others have stated.

Option 2) ---> gparted can be your friend, if there is unused space on
the disk that the partition is on. Try it on a non-production machine
first.

On Jan 16, 2008 5:30 PM, Walt Hundleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello
> We have a 2003 DC but the system partition keeps running out of space.  I 
> have just freed up a much better server with some differences but I think 
> Ghost might work.  I can configure both with the same network cards.  The 
> SCSI disk controllers are different but both are HP and use the same drivers 
> (will configure both to hardware Raid 1).  The big difference is the old 
> server has one CPU and the other server has 2 CPUs.  I think it will Ghost 
> but will it run reliably.
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RE: 2003 DC system partition too small

[Ken Schaefer]

Just make the new server another DC in your environment. Demote the old DC (no 
need for metadata cleanup if it's a clean demotion)

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Walt Hundleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2008 12:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: 2003 DC system partition too small

Hello
We have a 2003 DC but the system partition keeps running out of space.  I have 
just freed up a much better server with some differences but I think Ghost 
might work.  I can configure both with the same network cards.  The SCSI disk 
controllers are different but both are HP and use the same drivers (will 
configure both to hardware Raid 1).  The big difference is the old server has 
one CPU and the other server has 2 CPUs.  I think it will Ghost but will it run 
reliably.


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RE: 2003 DC system partition too small

[Ziots, Edward]

Ghosts and servers for me never mixed. 

I seen too much ugliness with images on workstations, over my time in
sysadmin land, why I never subscribed to it in server administration.

Plus duplicate sids, Guids, etc etc you could really mess up AD
replication this way. 

Z

-Original Message-
From: Greg Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2003 DC system partition too small

I second this approach. Much cleaner, and probably more reliable long
term. 

-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2003 DC system partition too small

Why not build the new server, promote it to a DC, and then demote the
old server and retire it accordingly ( metadata cleanup etc etc)

Don't advise Ghosting DC's. 

Z

-Original Message-
From: Walt Hundleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: 2003 DC system partition too small

Hello
We have a 2003 DC but the system partition keeps running out of space.
I have just freed up a much better server with some differences but I
think Ghost might work.  I can configure both with the same network
cards.  The SCSI disk controllers are different but both are HP and use
the same drivers (will configure both to hardware Raid 1).  The big
difference is the old server has one CPU and the other server has 2
CPUs.  I think it will Ghost but will it run reliably.
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RE: 2003 DC system partition too small

[Greg Olson]

I second this approach. Much cleaner, and probably more reliable long
term. 

-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2003 DC system partition too small

Why not build the new server, promote it to a DC, and then demote the
old server and retire it accordingly ( metadata cleanup etc etc)

Don't advise Ghosting DC's. 

Z

-Original Message-
From: Walt Hundleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: 2003 DC system partition too small

Hello
We have a 2003 DC but the system partition keeps running out of space.
I have just freed up a much better server with some differences but I
think Ghost might work.  I can configure both with the same network
cards.  The SCSI disk controllers are different but both are HP and use
the same drivers (will configure both to hardware Raid 1).  The big
difference is the old server has one CPU and the other server has 2
CPUs.  I think it will Ghost but will it run reliably.
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RE: 2003 DC system partition too small

[Carl Houseman]

Why not just install Windows on the new machine and promote it to a DC?
Less filling, tastes great.

Carl

-Original Message-
From: Walt Hundleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: 2003 DC system partition too small

Hello
We have a 2003 DC but the system partition keeps running out of space.  I
have just freed up a much better server with some differences but I think
Ghost might work.  I can configure both with the same network cards.  The
SCSI disk controllers are different but both are HP and use the same drivers
(will configure both to hardware Raid 1).  The big difference is the old
server has one CPU and the other server has 2 CPUs.  I think it will Ghost
but will it run reliably.


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RE: 2003 DC system partition too small

[Ziots, Edward]

Why not build the new server, promote it to a DC, and then demote the
old server and retire it accordingly ( metadata cleanup etc etc)

Don't advise Ghosting DC's. 

Z

-Original Message-
From: Walt Hundleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: 2003 DC system partition too small

Hello
We have a 2003 DC but the system partition keeps running out of space.
I have just freed up a much better server with some differences but I
think Ghost might work.  I can configure both with the same network
cards.  The SCSI disk controllers are different but both are HP and use
the same drivers (will configure both to hardware Raid 1).  The big
difference is the old server has one CPU and the other server has 2
CPUs.  I think it will Ghost but will it run reliably.
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Re: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD player

[Silvio L. Nisgoski]

I would point to that ( one friend has a PS2 that won´t read Maxell or Kodak 
dvd´s, but likes TDKs.). Or maybe Vista doesn´t close the session/disk the same 
way as winxp does. Maybe something related to Vista´s handling of UDF or packet 
writing.
As the others said, try a cdburning app, or, if you like the command line, 
CreateCD from Alex Feinman..



  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Gill 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:54 PM
  Subject: RE: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD 
player




  Sony media both times. Hmm, a small amount of irony there. I will try some 
Office Depot brand media I've seen floating around. I use TDK personally but am 
out at the moment.

   

  -- 
  Mike Gill

   

  From: Silvio L. Nisgoski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:24 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD 
player

   

   

  Did you use the same brand of media in the two tests? Sometimes, players 
doesn´t like all brands.

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: Mike Gill 

To: NT System Admin Issues 

Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:38 PM

Subject: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD 
player

 

 

I have some MP3's that I put on a CD using Vista. Once the CD is created 
(session closed) it won't play in a CD player here that also plays MP3 files. 
Putting the CD back into my computer shows all is well. If I burn the same set 
of MP3's on a different machine (same model of Dell) I have but with XP Pro, it 
plays the MP3's in the CD player just fine. Did I miss a memo?

 

  -- 
  Mike Gill

 










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2003 DC system partition too small

[Walt Hundleby]

Hello
We have a 2003 DC but the system partition keeps running out of space.  I have 
just freed up a much better server with some differences but I think Ghost 
might work.  I can configure both with the same network cards.  The SCSI disk 
controllers are different but both are HP and use the same drivers (will 
configure both to hardware Raid 1).  The big difference is the old server has 
one CPU and the other server has 2 CPUs.  I think it will Ghost but will it run 
reliably.
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RE: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD player

[Mike Gill]

Sony media both times. Hmm, a small amount of irony there. I will try some
Office Depot brand media I’ve seen floating around. I use TDK personally but
am out at the moment.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Silvio L. Nisgoski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD
player

 

 

Did you use the same brand of media in the two tests? Sometimes, players
doesn´t like all brands.

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Mike Gill   

To: NT System Admin Issues   

Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:38 PM

Subject: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD
player

 

 

I have some MP3’s that I put on a CD using Vista. Once the CD is created
(session closed) it won’t play in a CD player here that also plays MP3
files. Putting the CD back into my computer shows all is well. If I burn the
same set of MP3’s on a different machine (same model of Dell) I have but
with XP Pro, it plays the MP3’s in the CD player just fine. Did I miss a
memo?

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

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Re: VMWare book recomendations

[Jeffrey Showen]

The VI3 Online Library is a great searchable resource that VMware is doing a
pretty good job of keeping up to date.

http://pubs.vmware.com/vi301/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm

On Jan 16, 2008 1:17 PM, Louis, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> VM is moving pretty fast. I'd think that most books would be outdated by
> the time it went to publish and was distributed.
>
> I know the VMware site has many great articles for planning. And depending
> on SAN the solition you pick, they would too. I know mine has great docs and
> support relating to VM.
>
>  --
> *From:* Peter Hotchkiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:46 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* VMWare book recomendations
>
>
> We are running ESX 3.0.2 on a single host with direct attached storage.
> I've been fairly successful this far just working my way through questions
> and problems that have come up and we have 5 production VM's running.
>
> Now we are about to go much deeper with multiple hosts, SAN for storage,
> vmotion etc. and I'm looking for book suggestions.  Anyone have a book they
> have read or are using as a reference they like?
>
> One that looks good to me is "VMware ESX Server in the Enterprise:
> Planning and Securing Virtualization Servers" by Edward L. Haletky
> Any comments on it?
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: Imaging windows workstations across different hardware

[Eric E Eskam]

"Oliver Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/16/2008 
04:32:09 PM:

> I remember reading something a while ago about an imaging package that
> would allow you to create an image of a workstation and then apply that
> image to another machine where that new machine may have different
> hardware,

You can add drivers to OSD

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb490308.aspx

http://blogs.technet.com/msdeployment/

http://www.reich-consulting.net/2008/01/10/adding-drivers-to-a-bdd-litetouch-image/

Lite touch is the path you want to take if you aren't using SMS.

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RE: Imaging windows workstations across different hardware

[Sam Cayze]

OH, ME LIKEY!!!  This looks promising :)Thanks Shook.   

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Imaging windows workstations across different hardware

Olly,

http://www.uiu4you.com/ 

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Imaging windows workstations across different hardware

Hi chaps,

I remember reading something a while ago about an imaging package that
would allow you to create an image of a workstation and then apply that
image to another machine where that new machine may have different
hardware, and so wouldn't be suitable for something like a bog standard
Ghost or DriveImageXML job.

Anyone know which packages support this? I need to migrate a few
machines to new hardware as well as create a base image for machines
where we know they will use different makes/models in the same office
area.

Olly

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RE: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD player

[Sam Cayze]

Try CD BurnerXP Pro.
 
I can't stand to burn stuff in Windows Media Player...

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Gill   
To: NT System Admin Issues
  
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:38 PM
Subject: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in
MP3/CD player



I have some MP3's that I put on a CD using Vista. Once the CD is
created (session closed) it won't play in a CD player here that also
plays MP3 files. Putting the CD back into my computer shows all is well.
If I burn the same set of MP3's on a different machine (same model of
Dell) I have but with XP Pro, it plays the MP3's in the CD player just
fine. Did I miss a memo?

 

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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Andy Shook]

Agreed, I'll enjoy not knowing and keep it at that...

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup MS Virtual machines

Well, I know you, so *you* can Google search that.  Most ppl I would
advise should not.

On Jan 16, 2008 4:25 PM, Andy Shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 
>
> I don't get it
>
> Shook
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook
>
>   -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Backup MS Virtual machines
>
>
> Pscha!  Pop while playing toast, you mean. [1]
>
> 1.  If you get this, you know your slang.  If you don't, do /not/
> Google "playing toast".
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2008 2:21 PM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I'd pop too if I had to live with Shook.
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Re: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Well, I know you, so *you* can Google search that.  Most ppl I would
advise should not.

On Jan 16, 2008 4:25 PM, Andy Shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>
> I don't get it
>
> Shook
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook
>
>   -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Backup MS Virtual machines
>
>
> Pscha!  Pop while playing toast, you mean. [1]
>
> 1.  If you get this, you know your slang.  If you don't, do /not/
> Google "playing toast".
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2008 2:21 PM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
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Re: Imaging windows workstations across different hardware

[John Cook]

Acronis with universal restore. 
Painstakingly sent to you from my Blackberry. 

- Original Message -
From: Andy Shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed Jan 16 16:41:14 2008
Subject: RE: Imaging windows workstations across different hardware

Olly,

http://www.uiu4you.com/ 

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Imaging windows workstations across different hardware

Hi chaps,

I remember reading something a while ago about an imaging package that
would allow you to create an image of a workstation and then apply that
image to another machine where that new machine may have different
hardware, and so wouldn't be suitable for something like a bog standard
Ghost or DriveImageXML job.

Anyone know which packages support this? I need to migrate a few
machines to new hardware as well as create a base image for machines
where we know they will use different makes/models in the same office
area.

Olly

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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Michael B. Smith]

It should look like this:

 

HoboCopy (c) 2006 Wangdera Corporation. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Calling CoInitialize

Starting a full copy from C:\Users\Michael\Documents\My Virtual
Machines\Windows Server 2008 to c:\temp\hobotest

Calling CreateVssBackupComponents

Calling InitializeForBackup

Calling GatherWriterMetadata

Waiting for writer metadata

Calling QueryStatus for GatherWriterMetadata

Calling GetWriterMetadataCount

Calling GetWriterMetadata

Writer 0 named System Writer

Writer has 1 components

Component 0 is named System Files, has a path of (null), and is not
selectable for backup. 10141 files, 0 databases, 0 log files.

...



...

Component 0 has name System Files, path , is not selectable for backup, and
has parent (no parent)

Calling GetWriterMetadata

Writer 1 named SqlServerWriter

Writer has 12 components

...



...

Calling GetWriterMetadata

Writer 2 named ASR Writer

Writer has 5 components

Component 0 is named ASR, has a path of ASR, and is not selectable for
backup. 0 files, 0 databases, 0 log files.

Component 1 is named Volume{ae29596a-5609-11dc-b362-806e6f6e6963}, has a
path of Volumes, and is not selectable for backup. 0 files, 0 databases, 0
log files.

Component 2 is named Volume{ae295969-5609-11dc-b362-806e6f6e6963}, has a
path of Volumes, and is not selectable for backup. 0 files, 0 databases, 0
log files.

Component 3 is named BCD, has a path of BCD, and is not selectable for
backup. 1 files, 0 databases, 0 log files.

File 0 has path \\?\Volume{ae29596a-5609-11dc-b362-806e6f6e6963}\Boot\*.*

Component 4 is named harddisk0, has a path of Disks, and is selectable for
backup. 0 files, 0 databases, 0 log files.

Component 0 has name ASR, path ASR, is not selectable for backup, and has
parent (no parent)

Component 1 has name Volume{ae29596a-5609-11dc-b362-806e6f6e6963}, path
Volumes, is not selectable for backup, and has parent (no parent)

Component 2 has name Volume{ae295969-5609-11dc-b362-806e6f6e6963}, path
Volumes, is not selectable for backup, and has parent (no parent)

Component 3 has name BCD, path BCD, is not selectable for backup, and has
parent (no parent)

Component 4 has name harddisk0, path Disks, is selectable for backup, and
has parent (no parent)

Calling GetWriterMetadata

Writer 3 named IIS Config Writer

Writer has 1 components

Component 0 is named IISCONFIG, has a path of (null), and is not selectable
for backup. 1 files, 0 databases, 0 log files.

File 0 has path %windir%\system32\inetsrv\config\*

Component 0 has name IISCONFIG, path , is not selectable for backup, and has
parent (no parent)

Calling GetWriterMetadata

...

etc. etc. etc. through all the registered VSS writers

...

Calling StartSnapshotSet

Calling GetVolumePathName

Calling AddToSnapshotSet

...



...

Calling SetBackupState

Calling PrepareForBackup

Calling DoSnapshotSet

Calling GetSnapshotProperties

Calling CalculateSourcePath

Recursively creating destination directory c:\temp\hobotest.

Calling CopyRecursive

Copied file
\\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy7\Users\Michael\Documents\My
Virtual Machines\Windows Server 2008\Windows Server 2008 Hard Disk.vhd to
\\?\c:\temp\hobotest\Windows Server 2008 Hard Disk.vhd

Copied file
\\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy7\Users\Michael\Documents\My
Virtual Machines\Windows Server 2008\Windows Server 2008.vmc to
\\?\c:\temp\hobotest\Windows Server 2008.vmc

Copied directory 

Calling BackupComplete

Backup successfully completed.

Backup started at 2008-01-16 16:21:49, completed at 2008-01-16 16:31:44.

2 files (5.83 GB, 1 directories) copied, 0 files skipped

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I thought of that also so I ran it from the server and get the same results.

 

 

  _  

From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup MS Virtual machines


Tom,

I am not familiar with the product, however, I would think it would have to
be run from the source server so it can implement the necessary hooks to
vss.  If there is no agent in use, how would the application know how to
differentiate between vss and a normal network share?

Klint



Tom Strader wrote: 

 

The VMC and VHD files are located in the directory specified. The "V" drive
is a mapped drive on another server where the files are located. I've tried
it this way and on the server itself. Says its starting a backup but nothing
happens. 

 

 

  _  

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

You have the directory name specified incorrectly.

hobocopy.exe /verbosity=5 /r "C:\Users\Michael\Documents\My Virtual
Machines

RE: Imaging windows workstations across different hardware

[Andy Shook]

Olly,

http://www.uiu4you.com/ 

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Imaging windows workstations across different hardware

Hi chaps,

I remember reading something a while ago about an imaging package that
would allow you to create an image of a workstation and then apply that
image to another machine where that new machine may have different
hardware, and so wouldn't be suitable for something like a bog standard
Ghost or DriveImageXML job.

Anyone know which packages support this? I need to migrate a few
machines to new hardware as well as create a base image for machines
where we know they will use different makes/models in the same office
area.

Olly

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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Andy Shook]

My apologies to all my fans...

I've been heavily involved in deploying/configuring/doing stuff with ESX
3.5 and we are moving to a brand new building in a month and the
structured cabling crew started this week.  Did I mention my third child
is due in February as well?

"I can do all things..." 

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  

-Original Message-
From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

Oh, crap, he made an appearance today!

Hey Shook!


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RE: VMWare book recomendations

[Greg Olson]

It was supposed to be released back in October, but it's not out yet. 
:(
I have seen this one is out:
http://beta.bordersstores.com/online/store/SearchResults?keyword=Vmware+Infrastructure+3&type=1&simple=1

But I don't know how good it is. 


-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare book recomendations

Not yet, going to Barnes tonight to inquire. 

I figure if its got a ISBN and was released back in Oct 2007, then its 
available. 

Z

-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare book recomendations

Or I'm wrong...whatever. Have you found it actually in stock anywhere?

 - Andy O. 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare book recomendations


Sorry I stand corrected on my previous post, 

Ron and the Guys have put out the ESX V3 guide. 

http://books.google.com/books?id=Yq2dGgAACAAJ&dq=inauthor:Ron+inauthor:Ogles
by 


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Imaging windows workstations across different hardware

[Oliver Marshall]

Hi chaps,

I remember reading something a while ago about an imaging package that
would allow you to create an image of a workstation and then apply that
image to another machine where that new machine may have different
hardware, and so wouldn't be suitable for something like a bog standard
Ghost or DriveImageXML job.

Anyone know which packages support this? I need to migrate a few
machines to new hardware as well as create a base image for machines
where we know they will use different makes/models in the same office
area.

Olly

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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Christopher J. Bosak]

Oh, crap, he made an appearance today!

Hey Shook!

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 15:26 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines



I don't get it

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook

  -Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup MS Virtual machines

Pscha!  Pop while playing toast, you mean. [1]

1.  If you get this, you know your slang.  If you don't, do /not/
Google "playing toast".


On Jan 16, 2008 2:21 PM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'd pop too if I had to live with Shook.


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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Andy Shook]

I don't get it

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook

  -Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup MS Virtual machines

Pscha!  Pop while playing toast, you mean. [1]

1.  If you get this, you know your slang.  If you don't, do /not/
Google "playing toast".


On Jan 16, 2008 2:21 PM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'd pop too if I had to live with Shook.


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Re: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD player

[Silvio L. Nisgoski]

Did you use the same brand of media in the two tests? Sometimes, players 
doesn´t like all brands.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Gill 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:38 PM
  Subject: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD player




  I have some MP3's that I put on a CD using Vista. Once the CD is created 
(session closed) it won't play in a CD player here that also plays MP3 files. 
Putting the CD back into my computer shows all is well. If I burn the same set 
of MP3's on a different machine (same model of Dell) I have but with XP Pro, it 
plays the MP3's in the CD player just fine. Did I miss a memo?

   

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RE: VMWare book recomendations

[Ziots, Edward]

Not yet, going to Barnes tonight to inquire. 

I figure if its got a ISBN and was released back in Oct 2007, then its 
available. 

Z

-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare book recomendations

Or I'm wrong...whatever. Have you found it actually in stock anywhere?

 - Andy O. 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare book recomendations


Sorry I stand corrected on my previous post, 

Ron and the Guys have put out the ESX V3 guide. 

http://books.google.com/books?id=Yq2dGgAACAAJ&dq=inauthor:Ron+inauthor:Ogles
by 


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RE: Strange HDD behaivor on server

[gsweers]

How I love chkdsk /f, while drive activity does seem normal, it apparently 
found invalid security descriptors on files and instead of telling me where 
they removed them from, it just randomly removed security and left it BLANK or 
Administrator only full control.

 

Some are good, and some are bad.  Everything from our My Doc redirection 
folders to public drives, to GP install DFS paths all the permissions are 
either right or wrong with no idea of what?

And since some are good and some are not, restoring from backup would not be 
the greatest idea, except that perhaps I can restore with the do not restore if 
new target exists using BUE.  Not sure if it would make a bad problem worse or 
save the day.

 

Event log doesn't give you much.  It looks like this will be fun.  I am 
applying user folders with their default permissions and applying to all files 
and subfolders to get their files right, but everything else is just going to 
be reactive fixing.

 

I would love to know what caused this corruption...  Just security descriptor 
errors according to the event log, no other errors.

 

From: René de Haas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Strange HDD behaivor on server

 

 

Right you are. Even without the /f I would first do a backup, as any activity 
can make a bad HDD worse.

 

From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Strange HDD behaivor on server

 

 

Hence that's why I said to backup before doing it.

 



From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Strange HDD behaivor on server

 


 

first chkdsk without /f just to see

Second see through Dell if they have drivers and firmware (also for disks) 
update

 

GuidoElia

HELPPC

 

 



Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: mercoledì 16 gennaio 2008 3.20
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: Strange HDD behaivor on server

 

I have a 2003 Sp2 server running a HW Raid 1 and a HW Raid 5, all SAS drives 
same controller.  Dell 2950.  

Tens of thousands of files, thousands of directories.  

Whenever something hard hits the arrays like a VSS snapshot, Defrag, the drives 
completely become inaccessible to the host or remotes.  Drives are lit up near 
solid, but there are no signs from the raid card of a drive failure, raid 
issue.  Leave the system along long enough and it comes back from death.

Any ideas where I could start.  Letting it run a defrag tonight.

 

Thanks


Greg

 











 
 

 
 
 

 











 
 

 

 

 










 
 




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RE: moss document library

[Bill Lambert]

Hi Greg...

I'm a SPS 3 newbie and have gotten good help from the MS forums:

http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/default.aspx?ForumGroupID=328&SiteID=1


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-Original Message-
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: moss document library

No one has any thoughts on this one?

-Original Message-
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2008 11:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: moss document library

Looking for some help here.

We have a sharepoint 2003 site that we are upgrading/migrating to 2007.
We
have a web folder on the d:\ of the server which is linked to a document
library and we are trying to do the same in 2007. I can setup a web part
viewer that will display the contents of the share but i cannot upload
to
it. there is no synchronisation.

User were able to either upload to the library or save to the share and
they would appear the same.

If anyone has any thoughts or experience with this i would be keen to
hear. I did not setup the previous server so i am not sure how it was
done. I have tried a number of things and searched a number of things
but
i cannot find anyway to do this in this version.

Thanks

Greg


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Another pretty good example of why users shouldn't be local admins

[Eric E Eskam]

http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/archive/2008/01/02/2696753.aspx

Perhaps, if rephrased for the non-technical, this could be a good object 
lesson for managers that don't see the value in controlling local 
administrators?

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RE: VMWare book recomendations

[Andy Ognenoff]

Or I’m wrong...whatever. Have you found it actually in stock anywhere?

 - Andy O. 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare book recomendations


Sorry I stand corrected on my previous post, 

Ron and the Guys have put out the ESX V3 guide. 

http://books.google.com/books?id=Yq2dGgAACAAJ&dq=inauthor:Ron+inauthor:Ogles
by 


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RE: VMWare book recomendations

[Andy Ognenoff]

Z,

The blog I posted about before (RTFM ED) is by Mike Laverick - one of the
authors of that book.  I don’t think it's fully out yet but they have 3
sample chapters available at the book site: http://www.vi3book.com/

 - Andy O. 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare book recommendations


Sorry I stand corrected on my previous post, 

Ron and the Guys have put out the ESX V3 guide.  


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RE: moss document library

[Greg Mulholland]

No one has any thoughts on this one?

-Original Message-
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2008 11:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: moss document library

Looking for some help here.

We have a sharepoint 2003 site that we are upgrading/migrating to 2007. We
have a web folder on the d:\ of the server which is linked to a document
library and we are trying to do the same in 2007. I can setup a web part
viewer that will display the contents of the share but i cannot upload to
it. there is no synchronisation.

User were able to either upload to the library or save to the share and
they would appear the same.

If anyone has any thoughts or experience with this i would be keen to
hear. I did not setup the previous server so i am not sure how it was
done. I have tried a number of things and searched a number of things but
i cannot find anyway to do this in this version.

Thanks

Greg


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RE: VMWare book recomendations

[Ziots, Edward]

Sorry I stand corrected on my previous post, 

 

Ron and the Guys have put out the ESX V3 guide. 

 

http://books.google.com/books?id=Yq2dGgAACAAJ&dq=inauthor:Ron+inauthor:O
glesby

 

Z

 



From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare book recomendations

 

 

Search the VMware community forums. There are few common books that come
up often there.
One of the forum gurus wrote one.

 

jlc

 

From: Peter Hotchkiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare book recomendations

 

 

We are running ESX 3.0.2 on a single host with direct attached storage.
I've been fairly successful this far just working my way through
questions and problems that have come up and we have 5 production VM's
running. 

 

Now we are about to go much deeper with multiple hosts, SAN for storage,
vmotion etc. and I'm looking for book suggestions.  Anyone have a book
they have read or are using as a reference they like?

 

One that looks good to me is "VMware ESX Server in the Enterprise:
Planning and Securing Virtualization Servers" by Edward L. Haletky  

Any comments on it?

 

Thanks

Peter Hotchkiss 











 
 


 

 





 


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Re: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Pscha!  Pop while playing toast, you mean. [1]

1.  If you get this, you know your slang.  If you don't, do /not/
Google "playing toast".


On Jan 16, 2008 2:21 PM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'd pop too if I had to live with Shook.


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Re: SMS 2003 R2 Deployment Plan

[Anatoly Podgoretsky]

I'm a glad.
I ask becouse it is my first SBS instalation.

Best regards,
Anatoly Podgoretsky
http://www.podgoretsky.com

- Original Message - 

> If you're installing SBS 2003, all the items will install
> automagically on their own...no need to plan the order.

> On Jan 16, 2008 1:29 PM, Anatoly Podgoretsky
>> I'm sorry.
>> It's typo error.
>> Of corce SBS 2003

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Re: Security: Firewall on desktops that don't leave the company?

[Salvador Manzo]

Kurt,
You forgot to put CENTRALLY MANAGED in Caps.  Without that, what's the point
in any org larger than a handful of machines?  You get the nice checkbox,
then get to watch as the actual management structure falls apart.


On 1/16/08 12:01, "Kurt Buff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd be for it, definitely, IFF (that is, if and only if) they can be
> centrally managed, the workstations can support the load, they are set
> up with a default deny policy, which means that by default everything
> is denied, and you only open up what is needed for people to do their
> business-related functions.
> 
> Absent those conditions, they are pretty worthless, or will be more
> pain than gain.
> 
> Kurt
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 16, 2008 4:59 AM, René de Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Asking for opinions. Was informed that we are going to put firewalls on
>> desktop pc's as well, though there is a firewall at the perimeter of the
>> network.
>> 
>> One motivation was that with a pentest from the inside we would be more
>> secure.
>> 
>> Are you doing this as well? Arguments for/against.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> René
> 
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Re: Security: Firewall on desktops that don't leave the company?

[Kurt Buff]

I'd be for it, definitely, IFF (that is, if and only if) they can be
centrally managed, the workstations can support the load, they are set
up with a default deny policy, which means that by default everything
is denied, and you only open up what is needed for people to do their
business-related functions.

Absent those conditions, they are pretty worthless, or will be more
pain than gain.

Kurt



On Jan 16, 2008 4:59 AM, René de Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Asking for opinions. Was informed that we are going to put firewalls on
> desktop pc's as well, though there is a firewall at the perimeter of the
> network.
>
> One motivation was that with a pentest from the inside we would be more
> secure.
>
> Are you doing this as well? Arguments for/against.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> René

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Re: SMS 2003 R2 Deployment Plan

[Steve Ens]

If you're installing SBS 2003, all the items will install
automagically on their own...no need to plan the order.

On Jan 16, 2008 1:29 PM, Anatoly Podgoretsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm sorry.
> It's typo error.
> Of corce SBS 2003
>
> Best regards,
> Anatoly Podgoretsky
> http://www.podgoretsky.com
>
>
> >I _suspect_ he means SBS, not SMS. But I wasn't certain.
>
>
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Re: SMS 2003 R2 Deployment Plan

[Anatoly Podgoretsky]

I'm sorry.
It's typo error.
Of corce SBS 2003

Best regards,
Anatoly Podgoretsky
http://www.podgoretsky.com


>I _suspect_ he means SBS, not SMS. But I wasn't certain.

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RE: LSASRV and UserEnv woes

[Ziots, Edward]

http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=40960&eventno=787&source=LsaS
rv&phase=1

 

Also have you turned on verbose Kerberos debugging to see if there is
more detail with the errors? 

 

Z

 



From: Christopher Boggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: LSASRV and UserEnv woes

 

 

I know you guys love these errors, they are very popular.  I don't ask
questions on here very often, I mostly try to answer them - but now it's
my turn to rattle your brains.

 

I'm hoping my situation is easily solved, but after looking over
articles on EventID.net and the KB, I haven't found one that really
applies to my situation.  Most of them specify similar errors, but not
quite the same.

 

We have a closed LAN, a plain jane one domain controller setup.  A 2003
DC, and another 2003 member server that is just a file server.   9 XP
workstations.  At one point, the domain administrator account was
renamed.  Ever since then, I've been getting LSASRV errors on the DC, in
the SPNEGO category, ID is 40960 - message is "The Security System
detected an authentication error for the server
ldap/xxx.xxx.local/[EMAIL PROTECTED]  The failure code from
authentication protocol Kerberos was "The attempted logon is invalid.
This is either due to a bad username or authentication information.
(0xc06d)".

 

I also see UserEnv 1030 errors on the same server, saying Windows cannot
query for the list of Group policy objects, check for previously logged
messages that describe, etc, etc...  But this one actually specifies a
user, and it's the renamed domain administrator account.

 

The member server constantly gets messages saying it cant bind to the
domain, or cant establish a secured connection, but everything seems to
work fine.  I have a few workstations that get LSASRV errors or don't
update GP as they should, but most of them work fine with no errors.

 

I've checked all services, and nothing is running as the domain admin
account that was renamed.  What should be my next step?  Maybe run
dcdiag, reset machine account passwords, or disjoin, rejoin the
problematic machines?

 

Like I said, this is a closed LAN with no outside/internet access, so
any utilities I don't already have will have to be copied over via CD.

 

TIA,

cb

 

 

 





 


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RE: VMWare book recomendations

[Ziots, Edward]

There is supposed to be a new Technical Guide coming out by Ron Ogelsby
for VMware 3.x soon, but no ISBN or date has been published. 

 

If you want a good guide for the guts of 2.5X  pick up the Vmware ESX
Server, Advanced Technical Guide ( Oglesby/Herold) ISBN 0971151067. 

 

Z

 



From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare book recomendations

 

 

Search the VMware community forums. There are few common books that come
up often there.
One of the forum gurus wrote one.

 

jlc

 

From: Peter Hotchkiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare book recomendations

 

 

We are running ESX 3.0.2 on a single host with direct attached storage.
I've been fairly successful this far just working my way through
questions and problems that have come up and we have 5 production VM's
running. 

 

Now we are about to go much deeper with multiple hosts, SAN for storage,
vmotion etc. and I'm looking for book suggestions.  Anyone have a book
they have read or are using as a reference they like?

 

One that looks good to me is "VMware ESX Server in the Enterprise:
Planning and Securing Virtualization Servers" by Edward L. Haletky  

Any comments on it?

 

Thanks

Peter Hotchkiss 











 
 


 

 





 


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RE: Citrix - NFuse

[Ziots, Edward]

Probably can use AWstats on them logs and you should be all set. 

 

Z

 



From: Louis, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Citrix - NFuse

 

 

W3 logs

 



From: Daniele Bartoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Citrix - NFuse

 

For monthly reporting requirements, I need to determine the number of
connections that are being established per month to our Citrix NFuse
website.  Can this be determined within NFuse?  If not, do you know of
any tools that could accomplish this?  I need to also determine the
volume of usage for the various applications.  

 

 

Daniele






 


 

 





 


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Re: OT: Revisit - Macbook

[Jonathan Link]

Yeah, I think it's more like a fart...

On Jan 16, 2008 3:19 AM, Gavin Wilby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Well - Im relieved, the Macbook Air is not what I was after and the
> Macbook looks to be unchanged for now at least.
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2008 2:37 PM, Gavin Wilby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > I got a really good deal on it so I am not that bothered really unless
> > they really ramp up the spec for the same price.
> >
> >  On Jan 15, 2008 1:24 PM, yoth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I said BEFORE macworld.  The discounts don't happen until after the
> > > macworld keynote usually.  You buy something a couple of days before and 
> > > you
> > > have to return it or mess with trying to get a refund of the difference.
> > >  But I agree that the smart money is bypassing the new stuff and wait for
> > > the first revision.
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RE: VMWare book recomendations

[Fred Sawyer]

A good crash course 101 book is
Syngress - How to Cheat at Configuring VMWare ESX Server ISBN 978-1-59749-194-5

As the caption says "The perfect Guide if System Administrator is NOT your Full 
Time Job"




Thank you,

Fred Sawyer
727-562-0101 ext 245
Sunbelt Software




From: Louis, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare book recomendations


VM is moving pretty fast. I'd think that most books would be outdated by the 
time it went to publish and was distributed.

I know the VMware site has many great articles for planning. And depending on 
SAN the solition you pick, they would too. I know mine has great docs and 
support relating to VM.


From: Peter Hotchkiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare book recomendations


We are running ESX 3.0.2 on a single host with direct attached storage.  I've 
been fairly successful this far just working my way through questions and 
problems that have come up and we have 5 production VM's running.

Now we are about to go much deeper with multiple hosts, SAN for storage, 
vmotion etc. and I'm looking for book suggestions.  Anyone have a book they 
have read or are using as a reference they like?

One that looks good to me is "VMware ESX Server in the Enterprise: Planning and 
Securing Virtualization Servers" by Edward L. Haletky
Any comments on it?

Thanks

Peter Hotchkiss













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RE: Microsoft Forefront VS SEP

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I've used Forefront and really like it. The management console is very
simple to use, in my opinion, and the price is very good. One of the
things I really like about it is that you get to choose which 5 of 9 (I
think those are the numbers) different virus scanning engines you wish
to use. This is really handy because you can select 5 engines for your
clients (desktops) and 4 different ones for Exchange/SharePoint if you
use the Forefront products for those servers too.

That being said, my AV product of choice is still NOD32 from Eset.

If you have further questions let me know.

HTH,

TVK

 

From: Todd Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Microsoft Forefront VS SEP

 

 

We are currently reviewing our client firewall and antivirus package.
For the past few years we have been running Symantec products. However
we stumped across Microsoft Forefront which seems to be more cost
effective and a little better as we are for the most part a Microsoft
shop. Do any of you have experience with forefront or can you comment on
it?

 

Thanks,

 

Todd

 

 

 





 


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RE: SMS 2003 R2 Deployment Plan

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I'm with you. If it WAS intended to be SMS then I would suggest going
with SCCM07 instead if it is for learning on a home network.
TVK

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SMS 2003 R2 Deployment Plan

I _suspect_ he means SBS, not SMS. But I wasn't certain.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SMS 2003 R2 Deployment Plan

If you don't get an answer, you might check with the SMS list or SMS
forum...

-Original Message-
From: Anatoly Podgoretsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SMS 2003 R2 Deployment Plan

Hi!

In two weeks I need deploy SMS 2003 R2.
My deployment plan is

1. Install Windows Server 2003
2. Install R2
3. IIS (need before SQL Server)
4. SQL Server Workgroup Edition (I want install all base into single
instanse)/
5. Install Domain Controller (this time DNS + DHCP)
6. Install ISA-2006
7. Install Ehchange 2003
8. Install WSUS 3.0

All except Share Point.
Hardware SuperMicro Server with 8 discs, 2 RAID 1 for system, four RAID
10
for data.

Is it right sequence? or I must change sequence?
Please dispute it.

P.S. Experience is, at start of this year I deploy 8 servers, but
Windows
Server 2003 R2 (two are DC, two FS, two DB, one ISA 2006 and one
MDaemon,
not SBS 2003 - there is no Experience yet.

P.P.S. It is for my home network, where I'm single user.

Best regards,
Anatoly Podgoretsky
http://www.podgoretsky.com


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RE: SMS 2003 R2 Deployment Plan

[Michael B. Smith]

I _suspect_ he means SBS, not SMS. But I wasn't certain.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SMS 2003 R2 Deployment Plan

If you don't get an answer, you might check with the SMS list or SMS
forum...

-Original Message-
From: Anatoly Podgoretsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SMS 2003 R2 Deployment Plan

Hi!

In two weeks I need deploy SMS 2003 R2.
My deployment plan is

1. Install Windows Server 2003
2. Install R2
3. IIS (need before SQL Server)
4. SQL Server Workgroup Edition (I want install all base into single
instanse)/
5. Install Domain Controller (this time DNS + DHCP)
6. Install ISA-2006
7. Install Ehchange 2003
8. Install WSUS 3.0

All except Share Point.
Hardware SuperMicro Server with 8 discs, 2 RAID 1 for system, four RAID 10
for data.

Is it right sequence? or I must change sequence?
Please dispute it.

P.S. Experience is, at start of this year I deploy 8 servers, but Windows
Server 2003 R2 (two are DC, two FS, two DB, one ISA 2006 and one MDaemon,
not SBS 2003 - there is no Experience yet.

P.P.S. It is for my home network, where I'm single user.

Best regards,
Anatoly Podgoretsky
http://www.podgoretsky.com


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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Tim Vander Kooi]

There really is no "System Center" per se, it's a product line as
opposed to a product. Any product that Microsoft creates dealing with
system management gets put under the SC banner. DPM is a standalone
product for backups. It's not free, but the pricing is awfully good in
my opinion.

TVK

 

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Do you have to have System Center to get DPM?  Or can it be standalone?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Bob,

DPM 2007 does what you are looking for as long as you are running on
Server 2003. At this time I believe it is the only product available
that can do it.

The white paper on this page
http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/dpm/workloads/virtual.mspx goes
into more detail.

HTH,

TVK

 

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Yes And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to
avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do
a copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client
that will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.


 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped
state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

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RE: SMS 2003 R2 Deployment Plan

[Rod Trent]

If you don't get an answer, you might check with the SMS list or SMS
forum...

-Original Message-
From: Anatoly Podgoretsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SMS 2003 R2 Deployment Plan

Hi!

In two weeks I need deploy SMS 2003 R2.
My deployment plan is

1. Install Windows Server 2003
2. Install R2
3. IIS (need before SQL Server)
4. SQL Server Workgroup Edition (I want install all base into single
instanse)/
5. Install Domain Controller (this time DNS + DHCP)
6. Install ISA-2006
7. Install Ehchange 2003
8. Install WSUS 3.0

All except Share Point.
Hardware SuperMicro Server with 8 discs, 2 RAID 1 for system, four RAID 10
for data.

Is it right sequence? or I must change sequence?
Please dispute it.

P.S. Experience is, at start of this year I deploy 8 servers, but Windows
Server 2003 R2 (two are DC, two FS, two DB, one ISA 2006 and one MDaemon,
not SBS 2003 - there is no Experience yet.

P.P.S. It is for my home network, where I'm single user.

Best regards,
Anatoly Podgoretsky
http://www.podgoretsky.com


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RE: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD player

[Michael B. Smith]

You can choose to make an audio CD or a data CD. I use it for both.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD
player

 

 

I thought Windows Media converts the MP3 to the standard audio format for
all CD players.

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:43 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD
player

 

 

Uh.works fine for me using Windows Media.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD
player

 

 

I have some MP3's that I put on a CD using Vista Once the CD is created
(session closed) it won't play in a CD player here that also plays MP3
files. Putting the CD back into my computer shows all is well. If I burn the
same set of MP3's on a different machine (same model of Dell) I have but
with XP Pro, it plays the MP3's in the CD player just fine. Did I miss a
memo?

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

 














 














 
 
 


 

 














 
 


 

 







 


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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I know Tom. Don't go and get all "Shooky" on me and cry now. :-P

 

 

From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Was just kidding anyhow.

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

Not at all. Simply an answer to Bob's question. I wasn't aware of any
other product that was able to do what he wanted online other than DPM,
obviously MBS has found another.

 

From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Uh Oh, we got another Doc Shinder for DPM.

 

If it ain't DPM it's ??

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

Bob,

DPM 2007 does what you are looking for as long as you are running on
Server 2003. At this time I believe it is the only product available
that can do it.

The white paper on this page
http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/dpm/workloads/virtual.mspx goes
into more detail.

HTH,

TVK

 

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Yes And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to
avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do
a copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client
that will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.


 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped
state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

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for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Davis H. Elliot Company . Warning: Although
precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this
email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage
that arise from the use of this email or attachments.

 











 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 

RE: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD player

[Christopher J. Bosak]

I thought Windows Media converts the MP3 to the standard audio format for
all CD players.

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:43 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD
player

 

 

Uh.works fine for me using Windows Media.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD
player

 

 

I have some MP3's that I put on a CD using Vista Once the CD is created
(session closed) it won't play in a CD player here that also plays MP3
files. Putting the CD back into my computer shows all is well. If I burn the
same set of MP3's on a different machine (same model of Dell) I have but
with XP Pro, it plays the MP3's in the CD player just fine. Did I miss a
memo?

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

 














 
 


 

 







 


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RE: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD player

[Michael B. Smith]

Uh.works fine for me using Windows Media.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD
player

 

 

I have some MP3's that I put on a CD using Vista. Once the CD is created
(session closed) it won't play in a CD player here that also plays MP3
files. Putting the CD back into my computer shows all is well. If I burn the
same set of MP3's on a different machine (same model of Dell) I have but
with XP Pro, it plays the MP3's in the CD player just fine. Did I miss a
memo?

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

 







 


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RE: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD player

[Sam Cayze]

Did you 'close/finalize' the CD?



From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD
player




I have some MP3's that I put on a CD using Vista. Once the CD is created
(session closed) it won't play in a CD player here that also plays MP3
files. Putting the CD back into my computer shows all is well. If I burn
the same set of MP3's on a different machine (same model of Dell) I have
but with XP Pro, it plays the MP3's in the CD player just fine. Did I
miss a memo?

 

-- 
Mike Gill










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Burning MP3's as Data files in Vista - Doesn't play in MP3/CD player

[Mike Gill]

I have some MP3's that I put on a CD using Vista. Once the CD is created
(session closed) it won't play in a CD player here that also plays MP3
files. Putting the CD back into my computer shows all is well. If I burn the
same set of MP3's on a different machine (same model of Dell) I have but
with XP Pro, it plays the MP3's in the CD player just fine. Did I miss a
memo?

 

-- 
Mike Gill


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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Michael B. Smith]

My interest in hobocopy is actually due to the "retirement" of ntbackup in
Vista and Windows Server 2008.

 

You may or may not be aware, but the new "native" backup clients suck. Big
time.

 

And I need a "free" version of SOME way to do Exchange backups and restores.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not at all. Simply an answer to Bob's question. I wasn't aware of any other
product that was able to do what he wanted online other than DPM, obviously
MBS has found another.

 

From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Uh Oh, we got another Doc Shinder for DPM.

 

If it ain't DPM it's ??

 

  _  

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

Bob,

DPM 2007 does what you are looking for as long as you are running on Server
2003. At this time I believe it is the only product available that can do
it.

The white paper on this page
http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/dpm/workloads/virtual.mspx goes into
more detail.

HTH,

TVK

 

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Yes.. And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare.. I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do a
copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client that
will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 

  _  

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 

  _  

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.  

 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

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the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not
read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed
in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the
Davis H. Elliot Company . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to
make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept
responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email
or attachments.

 















 














 
 














 














 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 
 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 

RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Tom Strader]

Was just kidding anyhow.



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines




Not at all. Simply an answer to Bob's question. I wasn't aware of any
other product that was able to do what he wanted online other than DPM,
obviously MBS has found another.

 

From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Uh Oh, we got another Doc Shinder for DPM.

 

If it ain't DPM it's ??

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

Bob,

DPM 2007 does what you are looking for as long as you are running on
Server 2003. At this time I believe it is the only product available
that can do it.

The white paper on this page
http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/dpm/workloads/virtual.mspx goes
into more detail.

HTH,

TVK

 

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Yes And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to
avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do
a copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client
that will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.


 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped
state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

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for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Davis H. Elliot Company . Warning: Although
precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this
email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage
that arise from the use of this email or attachments.

 











 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 

 

 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: What software / system does your HR department use?

[Albert L]

thank you all for your input :-)

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SBS admin features on 2003 ?

[Oliver Marshall]

Hi gang,

 

I'm looking to bring a bit of the SBS admin feel to a standard  windows
2003 based network? The users at this site want to be able to add users
and things themselves. I know the likes of AdventNet do simple apps like
this which allow for simple user management. 

 

Can anyone recommend any others ?

 

Olly 


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OT: Biggest Loser at MMS 2008

[Rod Trent]

For those attending MMS 2008 this year and want to shed some pounds as part
of your New Year's resolution:

 

http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/myitforum/archive/2008/01/16/announcing-the-m
yitforum-com-mms-2008-biggest-loser-contest.aspx 

 

 


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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Bob Fronk]

Do you have to have System Center to get DPM?  Or can it be standalone?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Bob,

DPM 2007 does what you are looking for as long as you are running on
Server 2003. At this time I believe it is the only product available
that can do it.

The white paper on this page
http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/dpm/workloads/virtual.mspx goes
into more detail.

HTH,

TVK

 

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Yes And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to
avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do
a copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client
that will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.


 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped
state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Davis H. Elliot Company . Warning: Although
precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this
email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage
that arise from the use of this email or attachments.

 











 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 

 

 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Davis H. Elliot Company . Warning: Although
precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this
email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage
that arise from the use of this email or attachments.

 

 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 










 

RE: Citrix - NFuse

[Louis, Joe]

W3 logs

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From: Daniele Bartoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Citrix - NFuse



For monthly reporting requirements, I need to determine the number of
connections that are being established per month to our Citrix NFuse
website.  Can this be determined within NFuse?  If not, do you know of any
tools that could accomplish this?  I need to also determine the volume of
usage for the various applications.  
 
 
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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Tim Vander Kooi]

Not at all. Simply an answer to Bob's question. I wasn't aware of any
other product that was able to do what he wanted online other than DPM,
obviously MBS has found another.

 

From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Uh Oh, we got another Doc Shinder for DPM.

 

If it ain't DPM it's ??

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

Bob,

DPM 2007 does what you are looking for as long as you are running on
Server 2003. At this time I believe it is the only product available
that can do it.

The white paper on this page
http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/dpm/workloads/virtual.mspx goes
into more detail.

HTH,

TVK

 

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Yes And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to
avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do
a copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client
that will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.


 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped
state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

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Citrix - NFuse

[Daniele Bartoli]

For monthly reporting requirements, I need to determine the number of
connections that are being established per month to our Citrix NFuse
website.  Can this be determined within NFuse?  If not, do you know of any
tools that could accomplish this?  I need to also determine the volume of
usage for the various applications.


Daniele

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Re: Outlook - Can't open this item

[Daniele Bartoli]

To clarify, on the user's desktop, go to the "Local Settings\Application
Data\Microsoft\Forms\ folder and delete the cache?

On Jan 14, 2008 8:30 PM, Brian Hintz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What happens in OWA? I agree with the cache deletion, but do it at the
> file system level instead of using Outlook's built in tool.
>
> On Jan 14, 2008 7:58 PM, Daniele Bartoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I ran into this Microsoft Outlook 2003 error today.
> >
> > When looking at a calendar entry, the user received the following error
> > "Can't open this item.  The object could not be found."
> >
> > I tried to delete the cache, however that didn't seem to help?
>  Suggestions?
> >
> > Interestingly, if you look at this calendar entry, the attendees who
> were
> > removed from this meeting still appear, however are displayed with "no
> > imforamtion".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Michael B. Smith]

You have the directory name specified incorrectly.

 

hobocopy.exe /verbosity=5 /r "C:\Users\Michael\Documents\My Virtual
Machines\Win2008-Exch-CAS" c:\temp\hobotest

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Michael what did you type on the command prompt to get it to work?

 

I tried:

 

hobocopy /verbosity=0 /full /recursive /y v:\directoryname\*.*
v:\backup\directoryname

 

Just jumps down to the prompt as if nothing was entered.

 

  _  

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

That's a good white paper.

 

Basically it documents that any VSS-aware backup system should work with VS
2005 sp1 (page 9) - which was my experience with the free tool. J

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Bob,

DPM 2007 does what you are looking for as long as you are running on Server
2003. At this time I believe it is the only product available that can do
it.

The white paper on this page
http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/dpm/workloads/virtual.mspx goes into
more detail.

HTH,

TVK

 

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Yes.. And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare.. I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do a
copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client that
will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 

  _  

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 

  _  

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.  

 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

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the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not
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in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the
Davis H. Elliot Company . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to
make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept
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Re: Outlook - Can't open this item

[Daniele Bartoli]

Correct, we are using Outlook 2003 with Exchange 2003.

On Jan 14, 2008 6:17 PM, Tom McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Are you using Outlook with Exchange?  We have seen this when we get a
> meeting response from a Notes system.  We have to use "other tools" to
> delete the message.  If you are running in cached mode it can stop delivery
> of any mail after it.
>
> I don't have the particulars at home, but will try to reply in the
> morning.
>
>  --
> *From:* Daniele Bartoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2008 8:58 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Outlook - Can't open this item
>
>
> I ran into this Microsoft Outlook 2003 error today.
>
> When looking at a calendar entry, the user received the following error
> "Can't open this item.  The object could not be found."
>
> I tried to delete the cache, however that didn't seem to help?
> Suggestions?
>
> Interestingly, if you look at this calendar entry, the attendees who were
> removed from this meeting still appear, however are displayed with "no
> imforamtion".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: VMWare book recomendations

[Joseph L. Casale]

Search the VMware community forums. There are few common books that come up 
often there.
One of the forum gurus wrote one.

jlc

From: Peter Hotchkiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare book recomendations


We are running ESX 3.0.2 on a single host with direct attached storage.  I've 
been fairly successful this far just working my way through questions and 
problems that have come up and we have 5 production VM's running.

Now we are about to go much deeper with multiple hosts, SAN for storage, 
vmotion etc. and I'm looking for book suggestions.  Anyone have a book they 
have read or are using as a reference they like?

One that looks good to me is "VMware ESX Server in the Enterprise: Planning and 
Securing Virtualization Servers" by Edward L. Haletky
Any comments on it?

Thanks

Peter Hotchkiss










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RE: VMWare book recomendations

[Andy Ognenoff]

Not that it’s a book, but I found the guides and cheat sheets at RTFM
Education to be really helpful.  The author also has a forth-coming book on
VI3.

http://www.rtfm-ed.co.uk/?page_id=7

 - Andy O. 

From: Peter Hotchkiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare book recomendations


We are running ESX 3.0.2 on a single host with direct attached storage. 
I've been fairly successful this far just working my way through questions
and problems that have come up and we have 5 production VM's running. 
 
Now we are about to go much deeper with multiple hosts, SAN for storage,
vmotion etc. and I'm looking for book suggestions.  Anyone have a book they
have read or are using as a reference they like?
 
One that looks good to me is "VMware ESX Server in the Enterprise: Planning
and Securing Virtualization Servers" by Edward L. Haletky  
Any comments on it?
 
Thanks

Peter Hotchkiss 






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RE: VMWare book recomendations

[Louis, Joe]

VM is moving pretty fast. I'd think that most books would be outdated by the
time it went to publish and was distributed. 
 
I know the VMware site has many great articles for planning. And depending
on SAN the solition you pick, they would too. I know mine has great docs and
support relating to VM. 

  _  

From: Peter Hotchkiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare book recomendations



We are running ESX 3.0.2 on a single host with direct attached storage.
I've been fairly successful this far just working my way through questions
and problems that have come up and we have 5 production VM's running. 
 
Now we are about to go much deeper with multiple hosts, SAN for storage,
vmotion etc. and I'm looking for book suggestions.  Anyone have a book they
have read or are using as a reference they like?
 
One that looks good to me is "VMware ESX Server in the Enterprise: Planning
and Securing Virtualization Servers" by Edward L. Haletky  
Any comments on it?
 
Thanks

Peter Hotchkiss 










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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Tom Strader]

Michael what did you type on the command prompt to get it to work?
 
I tried:
 
hobocopy /verbosity=0 /full /recursive /y v:\directoryname\*.*
v:\backup\directoryname
 
Just jumps down to the prompt as if nothing was entered.
 


From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines




That's a good white paper.

 

Basically it documents that any VSS-aware backup system should work with
VS 2005 sp1 (page 9) - which was my experience with the free tool. J

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Bob,

DPM 2007 does what you are looking for as long as you are running on
Server 2003. At this time I believe it is the only product available
that can do it.

The white paper on this page
http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/dpm/workloads/virtual.mspx goes
into more detail.

HTH,

TVK

 

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Yes And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to
avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do
a copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client
that will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.


 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped
state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely
for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or
opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not
represent those of the Davis H. Elliot Company . Warning: Although
precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this
email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage
that arise from the use of this email or attachments.

 











 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 

 

 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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for the i

RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Michael B. Smith]

That's a good white paper.

 

Basically it documents that any VSS-aware backup system should work with VS
2005 sp1 (page 9) - which was my experience with the free tool. J

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Bob,

DPM 2007 does what you are looking for as long as you are running on Server
2003. At this time I believe it is the only product available that can do
it.

The white paper on this page
http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/dpm/workloads/virtual.mspx goes into
more detail.

HTH,

TVK

 

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Yes.. And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare.. I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do a
copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client that
will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 

  _  

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 

  _  

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.  

 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for
the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not
read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed
in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the
Davis H. Elliot Company . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to
make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept
responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email
or attachments.

 















 














 
 














 














 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 

 

 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 














 














 
 














 














 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not
read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed
in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the

VMWare book recomendations

[Peter Hotchkiss]

We are running ESX 3.0.2 on a single host with direct attached storage.
I've been fairly successful this far just working my way through questions
and problems that have come up and we have 5 production VM's running.

Now we are about to go much deeper with multiple hosts, SAN for storage,
vmotion etc. and I'm looking for book suggestions.  Anyone have a book they
have read or are using as a reference they like?

One that looks good to me is "VMware ESX Server in the Enterprise: Planning
and Securing Virtualization Servers" by Edward L. Haletky
Any comments on it?

Thanks

Peter Hotchkiss

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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Tom Strader]

Uh Oh, we got another Doc Shinder for DPM.
 
If it ain't DPM it's ??



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines




Bob,

DPM 2007 does what you are looking for as long as you are running on
Server 2003. At this time I believe it is the only product available
that can do it.

The white paper on this page
http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/dpm/workloads/virtual.mspx goes
into more detail.

HTH,

TVK

 

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Yes And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to
avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do
a copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client
that will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.


 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped
state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Michael B. Smith]

I just did this. Hobocopy worked fine on my two test Virtual Machines in
Virtual Server.

 

The VM's did not pause or terminate or anything - I had them running an
application updating a SQL server contained within the VM and the recovered
VM recovered the to the last checkpoint (as I would expect).

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:27 AM
To: 'NT System Admin Issues'
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

Wanna try something? It's on my list, but I've not had the time to play with
it.

 

Hobocopy is a free VSS aware D2D backup utility. I kid you not. It's gotten
a lot of good press.

 

http://www.pluralsight.com/wiki/default.aspx/Craig/HoboCopy.html

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Well, I thought that too, but BackupExec (using VSS) was stopping the VMs
during backup.

 

Maybe I was doing something wrong.. But I couldn't find anything at the
Symantec website.  (which is a suckie site by the way)

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I would suspect that any VSS aware backup application would work with
Virtual Server.

 

Virtual PC requires a save/suspend/backup/go operation.

 

(I think the different versions of VMware have a similar restriction between
them, but I'm not sure.)

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.  

 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

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Microsoft Forefront VS SEP

[Todd Arnett]

We are currently reviewing our client firewall and antivirus package.
For the past few years we have been running Symantec products. However
we stumped across Microsoft Forefront which seems to be more cost
effective and a little better as we are for the most part a Microsoft
shop. Do any of you have experience with forefront or can you comment on
it?

 

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Re: Security: Firewall on desktops that don't leave the company?

[Candee Vaglica]

Ditto

On Jan 16, 2008 10:12 AM, David Mazzaccaro
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LSASRV and UserEnv woes

[Christopher Boggs]

I know you guys love these errors, they are very popular.  I don't ask
questions on here very often, I mostly try to answer them - but now it's
my turn to rattle your brains.

 

I'm hoping my situation is easily solved, but after looking over
articles on EventID.net and the KB, I haven't found one that really
applies to my situation.  Most of them specify similar errors, but not
quite the same.

 

We have a closed LAN, a plain jane one domain controller setup.  A 2003
DC, and another 2003 member server that is just a file server.   9 XP
workstations.  At one point, the domain administrator account was
renamed.  Ever since then, I've been getting LSASRV errors on the DC, in
the SPNEGO category, ID is 40960 - message is "The Security System
detected an authentication error for the server
ldap/xxx.xxx.local/[EMAIL PROTECTED]  The failure code from
authentication protocol Kerberos was "The attempted logon is invalid.
This is either due to a bad username or authentication information.
(0xc06d)".

 

I also see UserEnv 1030 errors on the same server, saying Windows cannot
query for the list of Group policy objects, check for previously logged
messages that describe, etc, etc...  But this one actually specifies a
user, and it's the renamed domain administrator account.

 

The member server constantly gets messages saying it cant bind to the
domain, or cant establish a secured connection, but everything seems to
work fine.  I have a few workstations that get LSASRV errors or don't
update GP as they should, but most of them work fine with no errors.

 

I've checked all services, and nothing is running as the domain admin
account that was renamed.  What should be my next step?  Maybe run
dcdiag, reset machine account passwords, or disjoin, rejoin the
problematic machines?

 

Like I said, this is a closed LAN with no outside/internet access, so
any utilities I don't already have will have to be copied over via CD.

 

TIA,

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Re: TCP/IP stack corruption

[Steve Pruitt]

That indicates the install includes files and/or registry keys needed by 
TCP/IP. 
  a.. If it's in an msi, you can use a packaging tool to examine the contents 
and possibly recreate the msi. 
  b.. If it was repackaged in your company, give it back to the packager to 
correct. 
  c.. If the installation package was created by the vendor, demand they fix 
it. You can also check appdeploy.com for info.
  d.. If it's an exe, they often contain an msi. Look in the TEMP folder while 
the install is running (while it waits for a response) and copy the files out 
to another folder. 
  e.. Worst case, use monitoring tools like filemon and regmon or a packaging 
tool to watch the install and uninstall and report what they do, then figure 
out from there.
  f.. Creating a separate fix that restores what the uninstall removes, so you 
can chain them together, should be a last resort.
Steve

  - Original Message - 
  From: David Lum 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:02 PM
  Subject: TCP/IP stack corruption




  We have a weird issue where uninstalling a specific app corrupts the TCP/IP 
stack - anyone have an idea who to track this issue down? We know which  app 
does it, but need to know how to prevent it. Ideas?

   

  Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
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RE: TCP/IP stack corruption

[Louis, Joe]

Sounds like the install replaced the original file(s). This a business
application or an install package you guys created? You may be able to edit
the uninstall log to keep the system file it needs and do a sfc to replace
the system file. Some combination of that may work for you. 

  _  

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: TCP/IP stack corruption




We have a weird issue where uninstalling a specific app corrupts the TCP/IP
stack - anyone have an idea who to track this issue down? We know which  app
does it, but need to know how to prevent it. Ideas?

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 

 

 

 

















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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Tim Vander Kooi]

Bob,

DPM 2007 does what you are looking for as long as you are running on
Server 2003. At this time I believe it is the only product available
that can do it.

The white paper on this page
http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/dpm/workloads/virtual.mspx goes
into more detail.

HTH,

TVK

 

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Yes And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to
avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do
a copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client
that will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.


 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped
state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Sam Cayze]

This guy made a script that suspends the virtual server?  Perhaps a
minute of downtime is ok?
 
Description: 
Backup files that make a Microsoft virtual server with only about 1
minute of down time. Suspends the virtual server, takes a shadow copy ,
starts the virtual server then copies virtual server files. This could
be used to copy any open files. Requires vshadow.exe from vss sdk. 

 
http://cwashington.netreach.net/depo/view.asp?Index=1049



From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines



This guy tried to do it...
http://4sysops.com/archives/life-backup-of-a-virtual-machine-with-virtua
l-server-2005-r2-sp1-using-volume-shadow-copy-service-vss/



From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines



At least with VMware, Trying to do that is like taking a picture of a
physical hard disk with a digital camera, and trying to restore it by
printing it out on an ink jet printer.
 
You need a VM aware backup product, something that works with snapshots.
Not sure if there are any for Virtual Server.   For VMware, yes.   
 
Unless you have a ton of vms on one box, I would just throw an agent on
the vm.  Disaster Recovery of the vm will still be extremely easy, and
in my eyes, more flexible because you can exclude many useless/old files
when restoring, greatly reducing the time needed to restore. 
 
 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines




Yes And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to
avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do
a copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client
that will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.


 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped
state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

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TCP/IP stack corruption

[David Lum]

We have a weird issue where uninstalling a specific app corrupts the
TCP/IP stack - anyone have an idea who to track this issue down? We know
which  app does it, but need to know how to prevent it. Ideas?

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 

 

 

 


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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Sam Cayze]

This guy tried to do it...
http://4sysops.com/archives/life-backup-of-a-virtual-machine-with-virtua
l-server-2005-r2-sp1-using-volume-shadow-copy-service-vss/



From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines



At least with VMware, Trying to do that is like taking a picture of a
physical hard disk with a digital camera, and trying to restore it by
printing it out on an ink jet printer.
 
You need a VM aware backup product, something that works with snapshots.
Not sure if there are any for Virtual Server.   For VMware, yes.   
 
Unless you have a ton of vms on one box, I would just throw an agent on
the vm.  Disaster Recovery of the vm will still be extremely easy, and
in my eyes, more flexible because you can exclude many useless/old files
when restoring, greatly reducing the time needed to restore. 
 
 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines




Yes And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to
avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do
a copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client
that will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.


 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped
state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

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for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you
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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Sam Cayze]

Perhaps I spoke too soon, I am reading that Virtual Server is VSS
aware...   You might be in luck :)



From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines



At least with VMware, Trying to do that is like taking a picture of a
physical hard disk with a digital camera, and trying to restore it by
printing it out on an ink jet printer.
 
You need a VM aware backup product, something that works with snapshots.
Not sure if there are any for Virtual Server.   For VMware, yes.   
 
Unless you have a ton of vms on one box, I would just throw an agent on
the vm.  Disaster Recovery of the vm will still be extremely easy, and
in my eyes, more flexible because you can exclude many useless/old files
when restoring, greatly reducing the time needed to restore. 
 
 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines




Yes And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to
avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do
a copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client
that will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.


 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped
state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Christopher J. Bosak]

Oh, I see. Your going for real time backup while it's running. I'm chalk out
of ideas there, sorry Bob.

 

From: Louis, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:51 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

The version of BUE that  I have is not current and its on Win2k, which
doesn't have VSS. But in the BUE version I have, the VSS setting in the job
is in under the Advanced Open File feature. Just posing a possibility but do
you have AOF? 

 

  _  

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

Yes... And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do a
copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client that
will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 

  _  

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 

  _  

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.  

 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Louis, Joe]

The version of BUE that  I have is not current and its on Win2k, which
doesn't have VSS. But in the BUE version I have, the VSS setting in the job
is in under the Advanced Open File feature. Just posing a possibility but do
you have AOF? 

  _  

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines




Yes And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to
avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do a
copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client that
will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 

  _  

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 

  _  

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.  

 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Sam Cayze]

At least with VMware, Trying to do that is like taking a picture of a
physical hard disk with a digital camera, and trying to restore it by
printing it out on an ink jet printer.
 
You need a VM aware backup product, something that works with snapshots.
Not sure if there are any for Virtual Server.   For VMware, yes.   
 
Unless you have a ton of vms on one box, I would just throw an agent on
the vm.  Disaster Recovery of the vm will still be extremely easy, and
in my eyes, more flexible because you can exclude many useless/old files
when restoring, greatly reducing the time needed to restore. 
 
 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines




Yes And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to
avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do
a copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client
that will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.


 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped
state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

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RE: Display all users permissions

[Ziots, Edward]

Could use dsacls.exe from resource kit. 

 

Z

 



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Display all users permissions

 

 

What do you mean? On the file system? Or?

 

Dumpsec from Somarsoft maybe?

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Display all users permissions

 

 

What is the best way to display all domain users permissions on a
Windows 2003 Server Active Directory??

 

 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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Re: Strange HDD behaivor on server

[Devin Meade]

We had the exact same issue with a PE 2900.  We updated the firmware,
drivers, BMC etc...  This helped somewhat, but we still had an
occasional issue under load.  Our solutions were (1)to not run
snapshots during the day (2) no snapshots during backup (3) decreasing
the drive allocation (4) (the one that I think fixed it for good) on a
5GB volume with 4GB free we totally stopped snapshots.  No problems
since.
-hth-Devin

On Jan 16, 2008 7:36 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Yes we have a full backup, since the system also wiped all our VSS because
> it reported the system could not expand fast enough for it.  I unmounted and
> did a full chkdsk /f on the drive, it found some security identifier errors,
> but other than that it reported nothing else.
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> Nothing in the event logs about timeout errors, SCSI errors, drive errors,
> only VSS errors and those only occur at snapshot time, but any other disk
> intense operation brings it to its knees for a long period of time, then it
> comes back to life.
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> have not had any issues since then until now.  I am downloading the DVD ISO
> dated 1/8/2008 and will apply that tonight after the backup.
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> nothing was running anyway so I am not thinking that was the issue.
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> files, but I would not suspect that to cause the issues we are having so
> extreme.
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> From: René de Haas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:02 AM
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:49 PM
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> Inviato: mercoledì 16 gennaio 2008 3.20
> A: NT System Admin Issues
> Oggetto: Strange HDD behaivor on server
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> I have a 2003 Sp2 server running a HW Raid 1 and a HW Raid 5, all SAS drives
> same controller.  Dell 2950.
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> Tens of thousands of files, thousands of directories.
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> Whenever something hard hits the arrays like a VSS snapshot, Defrag, the
> drives completely become inaccessible to the host or remotes.  Drives are
> lit up near solid, but there are no signs from the raid card of a drive
> failure, raid issue.  Leave the system along long enough and it comes back
> from death.
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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Bob Fronk]

Yes And when I do that, the VM Stops.  That is what I am trying to
avoid.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do
a copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client
that will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.


 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped
state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

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RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

[Christopher J. Bosak]

Just back up the physical folders that contain the files for the VM?

 

Chris

 

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:25 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Except I am not using VMWare.. I am using MS Virtual server.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Not found a client that will do that yet. Hopefully Legato will come out
with something accordingly. Probably want to look into ESX ranger to do a
copy of the VMX, VMDK to another box at an offsite for DR. 

 

Its silly that EMC owns Vmware pretty much and they cant get a client that
will work with the ESX OS which is just a flavor of RedHat. 

 

Z

 

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From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

I am not backing up the data on the VM, I want the whole .vhd, .vmc for
disaster recovery.

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

 

Even if you load the agent on the VM and try to backup the VM? 

 

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From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup MS Virtual machines

 

I need advice on the best software to backup Microsoft VMs.  (I am not
concerned with the host, just the VM files)

 

I have tried Symantec BackupExec, but it stops the VM during the backup.  

 

Is there a solution that does not have to have the VM in a stopped state?

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

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