date:20080424

RE: 64Bit Vista on laptop?

2008-04-24 Thread Ken Schaefer

Again - I doubt this is caused by CPU. Besides the almost 99.9% instruction 
compatibility between the two, there would be /so/ many bench marks showing how 
poorly AMD CPUs compare to Intel CPUs out there, especially in the driver 
forums etc. Something else is up.

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 24 April 2008 7:02 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: 64Bit Vista on laptop?
>
> Both laptops were configured straight from the manufacturer, and
> drivers
> updated when available per the manufacturer's web site (HP).  OS was
> always
> patched.  Vista SP1 on both.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:57 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: 64Bit Vista on laptop?
>
> I suspect that there is something else at play here, other than the
> CPU.
>
> Are you sure you have exactly the same mass storage controller drivers?
> The
> correct chipset drivers? The same GPU? Etc?
>
> AMD and Intel CPUs are pretty much 99.99% instruction set compatible.
> That's
> why you don't have separate compiled versions of Windows for either OS,
> nor
> do you need drivers that are either Intel or AMD specific. One HAL is
> able
> to abstract both CPUs to the rest of the kernel.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, 24 April 2008 6:38 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: 64Bit Vista on laptop?
> >
> > So, my recent movement from an AMD to an Intel laptop, and both apps
> > (just
> > two examples -- there are more) performing 100% better, has nothing
> to
> > do
> > with the processor?  Same specs, hardware, OS (32-bit for the new
> > laptop
> > versus x64 for the old laptop, though), apps, etc., yet different
> > processor
> > manufacturer.
> >
> > I'm not necessarily looking for an answer, I'm just happy with my
> > current
> > computing environment, sans AMD.  I was actually astonished in the
> > amount of
> > improvement, and probably won't go the AMD route again.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:26 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: 64Bit Vista on laptop?
> >
> > As mentioned, neither Office nor Zune (nor any other user mode
> > application)
> > should know anything about the CPU it's running on (as the kernel
> > handles
> > all CPU interaction). Secondly, I doubt either of these two apps is
> > particularly CPU intensive (they should be waiting for other things
> to
> > happen - like keyboard input). If you are seeing some kind of
> > "slowness"
> > (e.g. screen refresh) then I suspect that something else is at fault.
> >
> > And lastly, both ourselves and Sun have been running a bunch of
> > intensive
> > benchmarks on this Sun gear (both 16 core Intel boxes and 16 core AMD
> > boxes)
> > for various Microsoft workloads (SQL, Exchange, CRM etc), and the AMD
> > boxes,
> > currently, scale much better as you add more CPU cores than the Intel
> > boxes.
> > The Sun engineers tell us this is due to the Intel CPUs being
> > bottlenecked
> > on the memory transport and this will be fixed when Intel moves to
> on-
> > die
> > memory controllers with the Nehalem CPUs that are coming out later
> this
> > year. We haven't seen any "app compat" issues running any of these
> > workloads
> > (or even Hyper-V, which would surely expose such issues as it
> actually
> > runs
> > in privileged mode)
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 24 April 2008 6:11 PM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: 64Bit Vista on laptop?
> > >
> > > Those apps were just examples (based on the Subject line).
> > >
> > > The instruction set of the CPU plays into it, too, though.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:08 PM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: 64Bit Vista on laptop?
> > >
> > > Um - there should be no difference whatsoever. Neither Office nor
> > Zune
> > > knows
> > > anything about what the CPU is doing. That is all handled by the
> > > kernel.
> > >
> > > Also, I doubt that either Office or Zune software would be run on a
> > 16
> > > core
> > > or 32 core server.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, 24 April 2008 5:51 PM
> > > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > Subject: RE: 64Bit Vista on laptop?
> > > >
> > > > General app compatibility.  Office was dog slow on AMD, fast on
> > > Intel.
> > > > Even
> > > > the Zune software runs much better.  I was blaming crappy apps.
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >

RE: Trusts betwen 2k3 domains

2008-04-24 Thread Ken Schaefer

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