DHCP Option 135 Domain Suffix Order
Even if present in Win2k3Server this option doesn't work with XP clients. Assigning through GPO is not an option in my case because I have to assign it to machines belonging to a trusted domain (I have no access to their GPO) GuidoElia HELPPC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Win 7 Price
It's not just about size, it's also about the mix of products that you use. We have less people than you (about 60), but more servers (over 150 right now), and use a mix of Microsoft products including SQL and Exchange. This gives us a lot of points for negotiating, even at our size. SA gives other benefits besides renewal rights within the term of the license. You also get some support and some training benefits. If you were doing it for Windows only, I'd have to say that the track-record for SA is below par. For Office, it's a no-brainer, and for other members of the Microsoft product family, it's break-even at worst, and offers some price breaks on occasion. We negotiate our pricing through a VAR, with collaboration from Microsoft. You can always negotiate it to some degree... -*ASB*: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker Providing Competitive Advantage through Effective IT Leadership On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: You negotiate your SA renewals with Microsoft the same way you can negotiate price with them up front for Licenses and SA. How big do you have to be before MSFT starts to care? When I checked a few years ago, for my current employer (120 people, ~ 75 computers), we were too small to have any negotiating leverage. MSFT told us to call a reseller (e.g., Dell, CDW). Reseller quotes their standard price. :-( On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: [Software Assurance] also makes a great deal of sense when you have an EA or similar since they basically throw the Client OS licenses and SA in for free. Sounds like this might be a large vs small company thing. Enterprise Agreement is way out of our reach. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Manually remove dead AD DS AD Sites Services
I've run through the steps in KB 216498, but when I get to removing the object from AD Sites Services, I get a Access is Denied. I'm using an account that is a Domain, Schema, Enterprise, DNS admin. I've also tried this from ADSI Edit with the same results. Sean Rector, MCSE Information Technology Manager Virginia Opera Association E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Manually remove dead AD DS AD Sites Services
In ADSI look at the permissions to see if they are correct. Jon Harris On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Sean Rector sean.rec...@vaopera.orgwrote: I’ve run through the steps in KB 216498, but when I get to removing the object from AD Sites Services, I get a Access is Denied. I’m using an account that is a Domain, Schema, Enterprise, DNS admin. I’ve also tried this from ADSI Edit with the same results. Sean Rector, MCSE Information Technology Manager Virginia Opera Association E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Manually remove dead AD DS AD Sites Services
Sorry I got ahead of my self. You might want to move the object to another Site or empty the Site of all objects as well depending on exactly what you are doing. Jon On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: In ADSI look at the permissions to see if they are correct. Jon Harris On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Sean Rector sean.rec...@vaopera.orgwrote: I’ve run through the steps in KB 216498, but when I get to removing the object from AD Sites Services, I get a Access is Denied. I’m using an account that is a Domain, Schema, Enterprise, DNS admin. I’ve also tried this from ADSI Edit with the same results. Sean Rector, MCSE Information Technology Manager Virginia Opera Association E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT] Managing Geeks
I don't see this as OT at all, this is hugely relevant! My two favorite quotes: · Good IT pros are not anti-bureaucracy, as many observers think. They are anti-stupidity · Periodically, bring a few key IT brains to the boardroom to observe the problems of the organization at large, even about things outside of the IT world, if only to make use of their exquisitely refined BS detectors David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Mike French To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Fri Sep 11 19:08:54 2009 Subject: [OT] Managing Geeks I find an uncomfortable amount in common with this articl Аж http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9137708/Opinion_The_unspoken_truth_about_managing_geeks Mike French Network Engineer ~EQUITY BANK Office: 214.231.4565 mike.fre...@theequitybank.commailto:mike.fre...@theequitybank.com Evidently excellence in security by some security-centric vendors is defined as being the head of the class in a room filled with children without a propensity to learn. - Anonymous CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [OT] Managing Geeks
From my personal prospective I see that most of the people on government boards (volunteer), are either mainly BS'ers or just out of their depth and trying hard to keep up with the BS'ers pulling the wool over their eyes when ever they can. I have had to attend BOD meetings at my previous gig and watched it happen all the time. Boards usually have a lot of politics that necessitate a lot of BS to get things done to the majorities desires. Jon 2009/9/14 David Lum david@nwea.org I don't see this as OT at all, this is hugely relevant! My two favorite quotes: · Good IT pros are not anti-bureaucracy, as many observers think. They are anti-stupidity · Periodically, bring a few key IT brains to the boardroom to observe the problems of the organization at large, even about things outside of the IT world, if only to make use of their exquisitely refined BS detectors *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Mike French To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Fri Sep 11 19:08:54 2009 Subject: [OT] Managing Geeks I find an uncomfortable amount in common with this articl Аж http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9137708/Opinion_The_unspoken_truth_about_managing_geeks Mike French Network Engineer ~EQUITY BANK Office: 214.231.4565 mike.fre...@theequitybank.com Evidently excellence in security by some security-centric vendors is defined as being the head of the class in a room filled with children without a propensity to learn. - Anonymous CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT] Managing Geeks
I concur, I've been in a few BOD meetings and it was all I could do to just keep my mouth shut. I quit going due to the poo pile getting bigger then I like to shovel and in those situation's I have little to offer them for input. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Managing Geeks From my personal prospective I see that most of the people on government boards (volunteer), are either mainly BS'ers or just out of their depth and trying hard to keep up with the BS'ers pulling the wool over their eyes when ever they can. I have had to attend BOD meetings at my previous gig and watched it happen all the time. Boards usually have a lot of politics that necessitate a lot of BS to get things done to the majorities desires. Jon 2009/9/14 David Lum david@nwea.org I don't see this as OT at all, this is hugely relevant! My two favorite quotes: * Good IT pros are not anti-bureaucracy, as many observers think. They are anti-stupidity * Periodically, bring a few key IT brains to the boardroom to observe the problems of the organization at large, even about things outside of the IT world, if only to make use of their exquisitely refined BS detectors David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Mike French To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Fri Sep 11 19:08:54 2009 Subject: [OT] Managing Geeks I find an uncomfortable amount in common with this articl Аж http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9137708/Opinion_The_unspoken_truth_about_managing_geeks Mike French Network Engineer ~EQUITY BANK Office: 214.231.4565 mike.fre...@theequitybank.com Evidently excellence in security by some security-centric vendors is defined as being the head of the class in a room filled with children without a propensity to learn. - Anonymous CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT] Managing Geeks
ENTP here. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Managing Geeks Depending on the test, I register as either ISTP or INTP On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 19:34, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: One word. ��(Okay, acronym. ��For the sticklers.)���INTJ. ��Anyone else? I would bet there's a higher number in these ranks than the general populace. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:54 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Sent it to my boss a few days ago when it came out - he was rolling on the floor. Egotistical - hrumf! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud From: Mike French To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Fri Sep 11 19:08:54 2009 Subject: [OT] Managing Geeks I find an uncomfortable amount in common with this artic� http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9137708/Opinion_The_unspoken_t ruth_about_managing_geeks Mike French Network Engineer ~EQUITY BANK Office: 214.231.4565 mike.fre...@theequitybank.com Evidently excellence in security by some security-centric vendors is defined as being the head of the class in a room filled with children without a propensity to learn. - Anonymous CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/���~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [OT] Managing Geeks
2009/9/14 David Lum david@nwea.org: I don’t see this as OT at all, this is hugely relevant! Indeed. This is the NT sysadmin list, and the article is quite relevant to computer system administrators. For the record: When I was complaining about off-topic stuff recently, my complaint was about a combination of (1) the signal-to-noise ratio (2) stuff that had no connection to IT at all, and (3) people taking advantage of this list as a captive audience for their pet political issues. I don't think this list should be about topic fascism anymore than I think it should be anything goes. A happy medium should be our goal. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Restores from Incremental backups
On the smaller end of the price spectrum - Retrospect does something similar - they call it synthetic full backups but its really just perpetual incrementals. Full or selective restores are the same as if you were working from a true full backup. - Andy O. -Original Message- From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Restores from Incremental backups To answer your query, software *can* make it easier. TSM (Tivoli Storage Manager) does a perpetual incremental and it always, by default shows you the most recent version of files available for restore. If you want to restore a whole directory or drive, you just select it and it will automatically restore it to the most recent versions of all the current files. You don't have to know when the files were backed up or worry about restore order at all. It also supports point in time restores, where you tell it to restore it to the way it was at a specific date/time. Again, the software handles selecting the right files automatically. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Restores from Incremental backups
Synthetic backups are the current buzz word, I've heard it in 2 different pitches in the last 2 weeks. Sounds great if it actually delivers. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 1:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Restores from Incremental backups On the smaller end of the price spectrum - Retrospect does something similar - they call it synthetic full backups but its really just perpetual incrementals. Full or selective restores are the same as if you were working from a true full backup. - Andy O. -Original Message- From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Restores from Incremental backups To answer your query, software *can* make it easier. TSM (Tivoli Storage Manager) does a perpetual incremental and it always, by default shows you the most recent version of files available for restore. If you want to restore a whole directory or drive, you just select it and it will automatically restore it to the most recent versions of all the current files. You don't have to know when the files were backed up or worry about restore order at all. It also supports point in time restores, where you tell it to restore it to the way it was at a specific date/time. Again, the software handles selecting the right files automatically. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Restores from Incremental backups
Been using Retrospect in this capacity since 2006 so maybe the concept is catching on. :) - Andy O. -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 1:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Restores from Incremental backups Synthetic backups are the current buzz word, I've heard it in 2 different pitches in the last 2 weeks. Sounds great if it actually delivers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Manually remove dead AD DS AD Sites Services
Same thing happen to me last week. Had the same problem. Went to sites and services on the last step and said I didn't have permission to remove it. Had to go to the parent folder of the object, right mouse click on folder go to the security tab and give the administrator accout full access. Not sure why it changed but that did the trick for me. On 9/14/09, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry I got ahead of my self. You might want to move the object to another Site or empty the Site of all objects as well depending on exactly what you are doing. Jon On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: In ADSI look at the permissions to see if they are correct. Jon Harris On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Sean Rector sean.rec...@vaopera.orgwrote: I’ve run through the steps in KB 216498, but when I get to removing the object from AD Sites Services, I get a Access is Denied. I’m using an account that is a Domain, Schema, Enterprise, DNS admin. I’ve also tried this from ADSI Edit with the same results. Sean Rector, MCSE Information Technology Manager Virginia Opera Association E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sent from my mobile device ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Restores from Incremental backups
Agreed. Synthetic Fulls have been around for a while. -sc -Original Message- From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Restores from Incremental backups Been using Retrospect in this capacity since 2006 so maybe the concept is catching on. :) - Andy O. -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 1:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Restores from Incremental backups Synthetic backups are the current buzz word, I've heard it in 2 different pitches in the last 2 weeks. Sounds great if it actually delivers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Disk based backup
Hi guys, I did a search on subject headings for this year to see if I could find anything about this, but nothing jumped out at me. I have a 1-1/2 year old Tandberg Data T24 storage library and the drive just bit the dust six months out of warranty. Tandberg has told me (as expected,) If it turns out the repair and service agreement is close to the cost of a new unit, that might serve as an option for you as well. Before I go down the route of fix or replace I'm wondering if I should look into disk based backup? I'm looking to backup about 1.5 TB per night in a window that is about six hours in length between backup and verify. Anyone have disk based backup that's fast and working for them? Thanks, Evan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Disk based backup
EMC Avamar Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.comBLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.comBLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/ From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 6:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Disk based backup Hi guys, I did a search on subject headings for this year to see if I could find anything about this, but nothing jumped out at me. I have a 1-1/2 year old Tandberg Data T24 storage library and the drive just bit the dust six months out of warranty. Tandberg has told me (as expected,) If it turns out the repair and service agreement is close to the cost of a new unit, that might serve as an option for you as well. Before I go down the route of fix or replace I'm wondering if I should look into disk based backup? I'm looking to backup about 1.5 TB per night in a window that is about six hours in length between backup and verify. Anyone have disk based backup that's fast and working for them? Thanks, Evan Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Disk based backup
Check out Data Domain. From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Disk based backup Hi guys, I did a search on subject headings for this year to see if I could find anything about this, but nothing jumped out at me. I have a 1-1/2 year old Tandberg Data T24 storage library and the drive just bit the dust six months out of warranty. Tandberg has told me (as expected,) If it turns out the repair and service agreement is close to the cost of a new unit, that might serve as an option for you as well. Before I go down the route of fix or replace I'm wondering if I should look into disk based backup? I'm looking to backup about 1.5 TB per night in a window that is about six hours in length between backup and verify. Anyone have disk based backup that's fast and working for them? Thanks, Evan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Disk based backup
+1 We have a DD530 here and it has been well worth the cost. A quick glance at the nightly emails shows that I threw about 2.8TB of raw data at it last Friday that took about 50GB or so of actual disk space. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Mon 9/14/2009 6:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup Check out Data Domain. From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Disk based backup Hi guys, I did a search on subject headings for this year to see if I could find anything about this, but nothing jumped out at me. I have a 1-1/2 year old Tandberg Data T24 storage library and the drive just bit the dust six months out of warranty. Tandberg has told me (as expected,) If it turns out the repair and service agreement is close to the cost of a new unit, that might serve as an option for you as well. Before I go down the route of fix or replace I'm wondering if I should look into disk based backup? I'm looking to backup about 1.5 TB per night in a window that is about six hours in length between backup and verify. Anyone have disk based backup that's fast and working for them? Thanks, Evan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Disk based backup
Mind if I ask cost? -Marty - Sent from my Windows Mobile® phone. From: Richard Stovall richard.stov...@researchdata.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 4:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Disk based backup +1 We have a DD530 here and it has been well worth the cost. A quick glance at the nightly emails shows that I threw about 2.8TB of raw data at it last Friday that took about 50GB or so of actual disk space. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Mon 9/14/2009 6:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup Check out Data Domain. From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Disk based backup Hi guys, I did a search on subject headings for this year to see if I could find anything about this, but nothing jumped out at me. I have a 1-1/2 year old Tandberg Data T24 storage library and the drive just bit the dust six months out of warranty. Tandberg has told me (as expected,) “If it turns out the repair and service agreement is close to the cost of a new unit, that might serve as an option for you as well.” Before I go down the route of fix or replace I’m wondering if I should look into disk based backup? I’m looking to backup about 1.5 TB per night in a window that is about six hours in length between backup and verify. Anyone have disk based backup that’s fast and working for them? Thanks, Evan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Disk based backup
Exagrid! From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 6:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Disk based backup Hi guys, I did a search on subject headings for this year to see if I could find anything about this, but nothing jumped out at me. I have a 1-1/2 year old Tandberg Data T24 storage library and the drive just bit the dust six months out of warranty. Tandberg has told me (as expected,) If it turns out the repair and service agreement is close to the cost of a new unit, that might serve as an option for you as well. Before I go down the route of fix or replace I'm wondering if I should look into disk based backup? I'm looking to backup about 1.5 TB per night in a window that is about six hours in length between backup and verify. Anyone have disk based backup that's fast and working for them? Thanks, Evan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Disk based backup
DD has a truly GREAT product; however it will not shrink your backup window if that is a concern. The backup application still has to send ALL of the data to the DD device for every full backup that you do. Avamar will shrink your backup window, as the De-dup is source based, not target based. The downside to Avamar is that it is a rip and replace of your existing backup strategy. If you LOVE your backup process and are only seeking to replace your failed tape library, then Avamar won't be a good fit. However, if you've had headaches with your backup process/app, your data footprint is growing (whose isn't), and you're considering changing your backup app, I would recommend you consider Avamar. Also, EMC purchased DD, so I would be cautious about investing in the DD product until you see what EMC does with the product line... http://www.emc.com/about/news/press/2009/20090723-01.htm HTH - Cheers, Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.comBLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.comBLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/ From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup +1 We have a DD530 here and it has been well worth the cost. A quick glance at the nightly emails shows that I threw about 2.8TB of raw data at it last Friday that took about 50GB or so of actual disk space. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Mon 9/14/2009 6:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup Check out Data Domain. From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Disk based backup Hi guys, I did a search on subject headings for this year to see if I could find anything about this, but nothing jumped out at me. I have a 1-1/2 year old Tandberg Data T24 storage library and the drive just bit the dust six months out of warranty. Tandberg has told me (as expected,) If it turns out the repair and service agreement is close to the cost of a new unit, that might serve as an option for you as well. Before I go down the route of fix or replace I'm wondering if I should look into disk based backup? I'm looking to backup about 1.5 TB per night in a window that is about six hours in length between backup and verify. Anyone have disk based backup that's fast and working for them? Thanks, Evan Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
