Windows 7 firewall

[David Florea]

 We use ACT on our network.  We've always had to disable the XP firewall in
order for ACT to work in a networked environment; no biggie because the
local firewall wasn't used anyway.  Now with a Windows 7 machine on the
domain, I have a drive mapped to it from an XP workstation.  To my surprise,
if I actually disable or stop the firewall service on the Win7 PC, it kills
drives which are mapped to it from an XP workstation.  I tried it several
times, worked the same way each time.  I can't find anything definitive
about it - anyone know why that would be so?

Thanks,

David 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Will New Internet Domain Names Change the Web? - PC World

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:
> This is kind of a game changer.

  You really think so?  There are millions of non-English websites out
there already.  I don't read them, because I can only read English,
but they're full of non-English languages and non-Latin characters.
The domain names are ASCII, but that generally means some romanization
of their native language.  Pardon the pun, but it's all Greek to me.
The only thing that will be changing is that now the domain name will
be in their native character set.  Very nice and convenient for them,
to be sure, but "game changer"?

  In other words, "www.zhaodaola.com.cn" might become
"www.找到啦.com.cn".  So what?  :-)

  The only reason I even care a little bit is that IDNs
(Internationalized Domain Names) have already been used for look-alike
attacks.  There are lots of characters that look like ASCII but
aren't.  Some enterprising attackers have used that to register domain
names that look like those of well-known organizations.  For example:

http://www.ΥΑΗΟΟ.com

  That might look like http://www.YAHOO.com, but it's actually
constructed using Greek characters, and goes to some other site.
Fortunately, browsers are already evolving countermeasures against
such attacks.  I'd consider it more of a threat if we weren't already
faced with hordes of lusers who never look at URLs anyway.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Will New Internet Domain Names Change the Web? - PC World

[Sam Cayze]

This is kind of a game changer.  Interesting read.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/181085/will_new_internet_domain_names_cha
nge_the_web.html 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] r.gri...@wind.blackberry.com

[Kennedy, Jim]

This guy  has sent 6 NDR's from is crackberry to me so far. It may be a clue to 
the list errors or it could be someone that needs to be unsubscribed.


From: Sam Cayze [sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 6:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: s...@sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE]  Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put 
on hold

I'm getting NDRs from Lyris now:

From: postmas...@wind.blackberry.com
Your message:
To: r.gri...@wind.blackberry.com
Subject: FW: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold
Sent Date: 01:06 + has not been delivered to the recipient's
BlackBerry Handheld.


Sam




-Original Message-
From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 3:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put
on hold

Hi All,  Lyris apparently had a hiccup

Everyone got a "relay denied" that is reporting this problem.
Every single one of these people had a DNS lookup failure by Lyris (the
hiccup).
When this hiccup occurred, Lyris started using mxs1.fides.com
(66.45.246.210)
as the mail server, which denied relay. According to information, it all
goes back
to http://www.telnetcom.us/

I'm wondering if this was some sort of routing problem on the 28th of
October, but
that's when everyone's emails failed to deliver. It seem to occur in the
morning all
the way through the afternoon on that day until things started working
again. Not
sure why everyone just now got the hold messages. We will open a support
ticket
with Lyris on this.

Warm regards,

Stu Sjouwerman
Founder, VP Marketing.
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com



-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 3:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

+ whatever. I could see some activity in gmail but my work account has
been barren since Wed.

The sendmail guys insist it isn't anything here so could it have been
satan? Or just that friggin lyris thing I keep hearing about? LOL

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Oddly enough I didn't get one.  Isn't it weird, how, if you step back a
bit,
and look at our reliance on this list, how much of a tragedy it is when
you
aren't receiving emails from it? :-)


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107



-Original Message-
From: Wulff Jr, Ronald J. [mailto:rwu...@reedsmith.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold



Same here.  I wasn't bouncing any and none showed up in the spam
filters.  I am assuming it was just a glitch



-Original Message-
From: Scott Schneider [mailto:sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

No fluke I got it too. Checked my mail server and didn't see any bounced
emails. Lyris is suspect I think

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: October-30-09 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FW: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Didn't get any emails from Lyris for about 4 days, now this.  Now I am
back on.

Is this a Fluke?  So, what did I miss?

Sam




-Original Message-
From: Lyris ListManager
[mailto:lyris-nore...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:00 AM
To: Sam Cayze
Subject: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold


This email message is to notify you that your membership to ntsysadmin
has been put on "hold".

This means that you will not receive mail from 'ntsysadmin'.

Your subscription has been held because at least 30 recent messages have
been either bounced by your email system, or could not be delivered at
all.

Your membership can be restored to "normal", by sending the command
"unhold"
to ly...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

Note that if your email address continues to reject mail your
subscription will once again be "held".

You may want to contact the people responsible for your electronic mail
to determine why your email address has been having trouble.


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~   ~


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RE: Network-wide indexing

[Sam Cayze]

Lol, don't tell her what happens when you Google 'Google'  J

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oCHxB8d20s

 

 

 

From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Network-wide indexing

 

http://www.microsoft.com/enterprisesearch/en/us/default.aspx

I think Express is free. 

 

I have one of the Google appliances sitting in my garage at home (wasn't
worth renewing the license). I always threaten to shut off Google with
my daughter when she acts up. HA, she still believes it.

 

 

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Network-wide indexing

 

I've never used it, but have seen the dt products advertised for years:

http://www.dtsearch.com/



Roger Wright
___

Sent from Tampa, FL, United States

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Phillip Partipilo 
wrote:

Is there some software that will crawl our local network, and build a
recursive index of the filenames and their location on every share on
every
computer on the network, and then provide an interface to query this
index?
Each system here holds its own stash of data locally, and it would be
nice
to do a query to find out how many copies are out there.  Just about 40
systems and two main server stashes.  A web interface to the query tool
would be cool too.


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107






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RE: New firewall recommendations

[Sam Cayze]

+1.  With any hardware, especially a firewall, I FIND a reason to create
a trouble ticket to test drive the tech support BEFORE it makes it into
production.  Even if it's a mundane ticket, it gives you a chance to
'Kick the tires'.  You can practice the procedures to contact support,
document them, ask about their call centers and locations, get a feel
for timeliness, and ask about shortcuts to get the best support (Do they
respond faster to web-based support or email / Do calls go to India, but
email goes to US?).  

Sam




  Tech support is like a seat belt: Most people don't care about the
quality of it until they suddenly need it, and at that point, it's too
late to decide it doesn't meet your needs...

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

[Sam Cayze]

I'm getting NDRs from Lyris now:

From: postmas...@wind.blackberry.com
Your message:
To: r.gri...@wind.blackberry.com
Subject: FW: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold 
Sent Date: 01:06 + has not been delivered to the recipient's
BlackBerry Handheld.


Sam




-Original Message-
From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 3:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put
on hold

Hi All,  Lyris apparently had a hiccup 

Everyone got a "relay denied" that is reporting this problem. 
Every single one of these people had a DNS lookup failure by Lyris (the
hiccup).
When this hiccup occurred, Lyris started using mxs1.fides.com
(66.45.246.210) 
as the mail server, which denied relay. According to information, it all
goes back 
to http://www.telnetcom.us/ 

I'm wondering if this was some sort of routing problem on the 28th of
October, but 
that's when everyone's emails failed to deliver. It seem to occur in the
morning all 
the way through the afternoon on that day until things started working
again. Not 
sure why everyone just now got the hold messages. We will open a support
ticket 
with Lyris on this.

Warm regards,

Stu Sjouwerman
Founder, VP Marketing.
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com


 
-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 3:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

+ whatever. I could see some activity in gmail but my work account has
been barren since Wed. 

The sendmail guys insist it isn't anything here so could it have been
satan? Or just that friggin lyris thing I keep hearing about? LOL

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Oddly enough I didn't get one.  Isn't it weird, how, if you step back a
bit,
and look at our reliance on this list, how much of a tragedy it is when
you
aren't receiving emails from it? :-)

 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Wulff Jr, Ronald J. [mailto:rwu...@reedsmith.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold



Same here.  I wasn't bouncing any and none showed up in the spam
filters.  I am assuming it was just a glitch



-Original Message-
From: Scott Schneider [mailto:sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

No fluke I got it too. Checked my mail server and didn't see any bounced
emails. Lyris is suspect I think 

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: October-30-09 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FW: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Didn't get any emails from Lyris for about 4 days, now this.  Now I am
back on.

Is this a Fluke?  So, what did I miss?

Sam


 

-Original Message-
From: Lyris ListManager
[mailto:lyris-nore...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:00 AM
To: Sam Cayze
Subject: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold


This email message is to notify you that your membership to ntsysadmin
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This means that you will not receive mail from 'ntsysadmin'.

Your subscription has been held because at least 30 recent messages have
been either bounced by your email system, or could not be delivered at
all.

Your membership can be restored to "normal", by sending the command
"unhold"
to ly...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

Note that if your email address continues to reject mail your
subscription will once again be "held".

You may want to contact the people responsible for your electronic mail
to determine why your email address has been having trouble.


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RE: Network-wide indexing

[Steven M. Caesare]

All it takes to make good on your threat is a little DNS/hosts file
twiddling. J

 

-sc

 

From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Network-wide indexing

 

http://www.microsoft.com/enterprisesearch/en/us/default.aspx

I think Express is free. 

 

I have one of the Google appliances sitting in my garage at home (wasn't
worth renewing the license). I always threaten to shut off Google with
my daughter when she acts up. HA, she still believes it.

 

 

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Network-wide indexing

 

I've never used it, but have seen the dt products advertised for years:

http://www.dtsearch.com/



Roger Wright
___

Sent from Tampa, FL, United States

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Phillip Partipilo 
wrote:

Is there some software that will crawl our local network, and build a
recursive index of the filenames and their location on every share on
every
computer on the network, and then provide an interface to query this
index?
Each system here holds its own stash of data locally, and it would be
nice
to do a query to find out how many copies are out there.  Just about 40
systems and two main server stashes.  A web interface to the query tool
would be cool too.


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107






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Re: New firewall recommendations

[Andrew Laya]

I too use Sonicwall devices. Started out with a pair of PRO200 units,
replaced them with the PRO2040 units now in place. We purchased all of
them through firewalls.com. We got great pricing, and even better
support. 3 of the 4 calls I have had to make I made to them, instead
of Sonicwall support. Plans are to replace them next year with another
pair of Sonicwalls.
Let me know if you would like contact info.

Andrew.

On 10/30/09, David Baca  wrote:
> Erik,
>
> I have been on sonicwalls for yearsThey have been stable in my
> environment and to be honest i have only had a few instances where i needed
> tech support.  I would say support was hit and miss and if i complained
> enough they would get me to someone who was more helpful.  I have not used
> tech support for about 2 years now so i am not sure of their support staff's
> current state.  My latest install was early this year, a TZ190, for a remote
> office and it's been working great.  I have not see nor heard anything about
> the NSA line.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Erik Goldoff 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 9:39:46 AM
> Subject: RE: New firewall recommendations
>
>
> "3) I seem to remember some pretty fervent anti-SonicWall comments here
> lately, mostly due to offshoring of tech support.  Am I remembering that
> correctly?  Is it really so bad as to knock SonicWall off the list of
> contenders? "
>
> Support was so hideous for me on a TZ series, around 2005 I think, that I
> have refused to deal with them ever since, and do not recommend them to any
> clients I come across.   They may have changed and improved since then, but
> I haven't bothered to check back with them due to the negative experiences I
> had then.
>
> There are others with opposing opinions
>
> Erik Goldoff
> IT  Consultant
> Systems, Networks, & Security
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 12:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: New firewall recommendations
>
> Hola fellow admin peoples,
>
> I'm looking to replace our end of life Pix 515e firewalls.  We have two, one
> for each inbound ISP.  My SmartFilter subscription is also about to expire
> and I'm thinking I might like to move to a unified security solution.  So
> far, the only candidate I've found is the Sonciwall NSA series, specifically
> the NSA240 for our size network.
> It looks like it can do:
>
> 1) WAN failover  (1 firewall, multiple ISPs)
> 2) Traditional packet inspection / NAT, etc.
> 3) Layer 7 application inspection
> 4) Content filtering (to replace the SmartFilter)
> 5) A host of other buzzword goodies
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1) Are there any competing products that I should be loooking at?  I can't
> seem to figure out if the Cisco ASA5500 series is comparable on all
> features.
> 2) Anyone have firsthand experience with the fully tricked out NSA 240 with
> the Gateway Security Suite of addons?  Any comments you can share?
> 3) I seem to remember some pretty fervent anti-SonicWall comments here
> lately, mostly due to offshoring of tech support.  Am I remembering that
> correctly?  Is it really so bad as to knock SonicWall off the list of
> contenders?
>
> Thanks one and all for any suggestions/ideas/comments,
>
> RS
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
>
>
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> ~   ~

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Re: New firewall recommendations

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Andy Ognenoff  wrote:
> I had the same experience around that time frame; however, I haven't had to
> contact support for anything since either - it just runs.

  Tech support is like a seat belt: Most people don't care about the
quality of it until they suddenly need it, and at that point, it's too
late to decide it doesn't meet your needs...

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: New firewall recommendations

[David Baca]

Erik,

I have been on sonicwalls for yearsThey have been stable in my environment 
and to be honest i have only had a few instances where i needed tech support.  
I would say support was hit and miss and if i complained enough they would get 
me to someone who was more helpful.  I have not used tech support for about 2 
years now so i am not sure of their support staff's current state.  My latest 
install was early this year, a TZ190, for a remote office and it's been working 
great.  I have not see nor heard anything about the NSA line.

David





From: Erik Goldoff 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 9:39:46 AM
Subject: RE: New firewall recommendations


"3) I seem to remember some pretty fervent anti-SonicWall comments here
lately, mostly due to offshoring of tech support.  Am I remembering that
correctly?  Is it really so bad as to knock SonicWall off the list of
contenders? "

Support was so hideous for me on a TZ series, around 2005 I think, that I
have refused to deal with them ever since, and do not recommend them to any
clients I come across.   They may have changed and improved since then, but
I haven't bothered to check back with them due to the negative experiences I
had then.

There are others with opposing opinions

Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security 


-Original Message-
From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 12:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: New firewall recommendations

Hola fellow admin peoples,

I'm looking to replace our end of life Pix 515e firewalls.  We have two, one
for each inbound ISP.  My SmartFilter subscription is also about to expire
and I'm thinking I might like to move to a unified security solution.  So
far, the only candidate I've found is the Sonciwall NSA series, specifically
the NSA240 for our size network.
It looks like it can do:

1) WAN failover  (1 firewall, multiple ISPs)
2) Traditional packet inspection / NAT, etc.
3) Layer 7 application inspection
4) Content filtering (to replace the SmartFilter)
5) A host of other buzzword goodies

My questions are:

1) Are there any competing products that I should be loooking at?  I can't
seem to figure out if the Cisco ASA5500 series is comparable on all
features.
2) Anyone have firsthand experience with the fully tricked out NSA 240 with
the Gateway Security Suite of addons?  Any comments you can share?
3) I seem to remember some pretty fervent anti-SonicWall comments here
lately, mostly due to offshoring of tech support.  Am I remembering that
correctly?  Is it really so bad as to knock SonicWall off the list of
contenders?

Thanks one and all for any suggestions/ideas/comments,

RS

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


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~   ~



  
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~   ~

Re: OMA Errors

[Jeff Bunting]

I think it is a .NET 2.0 problem.  Try setting the OMA virtual directory to
run under version 1.1.

Jeff

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Cameron Cooper  wrote:

>  Trying to get OMA to work and notice that the following errors messages
> are in event viewer:
>
>
>
> Event ID: 1503  Source MSExchangeOMA
>
>
>
> An unknown error occurred while processing the current request:
>
> Message: Method not found: 'System.String
> System.DirectoryServices.DirectoryEntry.get_Password()'.
>
> Source: Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.Preferencing
>
> Stack trace:
>
>at
> Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.Preferencing.AdUserObject.get_globalWirelessEnable()
>
>at
> Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.Preferencing.AdUserObject.get_UserIsWirelesslyEnabled()
>
>at
> Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.Preferencing.OmaUserInfo.get_UserIsWirelesslyEnabled()
>
>at Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.UserInterface.Global.Session_Start(Object
> sender, EventArgs e)
>
>
>
> Message: Exception of type
> 'Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.DataProviderInterface.ProviderException' was thrown.
>
> EventMessage:
>
> UserMessage: A System error has occurred while processing your request.
> Please try again. If the problem persists, contact your administrator.
>
> Source: Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.UserInterface
>
> Stack trace:
>
>at Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.UserInterface.Global.Session_Start(Object
> sender, EventArgs e)
>
>at System.Web.SessionState.SessionStateModule.RaiseOnStart(EventArgs e)
>
>at System.Web.SessionState.SessionStateModule.CompleteAcquireState()
>
>at System.Web.SessionState.SessionStateModule.BeginAcquireState(Object
> source, EventArgs e, AsyncCallback cb, Object extraData)
>
>at
> System.Web.HttpApplication.AsyncEventExecutionStep.System.Web.HttpApplication.IExecutionStep.Execute()
>
>at System.Web.HttpApplication.ExecuteStep(IExecutionStep step, Boolean&
> completedSynchronously)
>
>
>
>
>
> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>
>
>
>
>
> Event ID: 1334  Source: ASP.NET 2.0.50727.0
>
>
>
> An unhandled exception occurred and the process was terminated.
>
>
>
> Application ID: /LM/W3SVC/1/root/OMA
>
>
>
> Process ID: 5944
>
>
>
> Exception: System.NullReferenceException
>
>
>
> Message: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
>
>
>
> StackTrace:at Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.UserInterface.Global.Finalize()
>
>
>
> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>
>
>
>
>
> Event ID: 5000 Source: .NET Runtime 2.0 Error
>
>
>
> EventType clr20r3, P1 w3wp.exe, P2 6.0.3790.3959, P3 45d6968e, P4
> microsoft.exchange.oma.userinterface, P5 6.5.0.0, P6 430e745e, P7 463, P8 0,
> P9 system.nullreferenceexception, P10 NIL.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Running on Exchange 2003 SP2 on Windows 2003 Server R2 SP2.  OWA works
> without any problems.
>
>
>
> Ideas?
>
>
>
> _
>
> *Cameron Cooper*
>
> *IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified*
>
> Aurico Reports, Inc
>
> Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896
>
> ccoo...@aurico.com
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: New firewall recommendations

[Kurt Buff]

Sidewinder, Vyatta and pfsense come to mind.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 09:22, Richard Stovall  wrote:
> Hola fellow admin peoples,
>
> I'm looking to replace our end of life Pix 515e firewalls.  We have
> two, one for each inbound ISP.  My SmartFilter subscription is also
> about to expire and I'm thinking I might like to move to a unified
> security solution.  So far, the only candidate I've found is the
> Sonciwall NSA series, specifically the NSA240 for our size network.
> It looks like it can do:
>
> 1) WAN failover  (1 firewall, multiple ISPs)
> 2) Traditional packet inspection / NAT, etc.
> 3) Layer 7 application inspection
> 4) Content filtering (to replace the SmartFilter)
> 5) A host of other buzzword goodies
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1) Are there any competing products that I should be loooking at?  I
> can't seem to figure out if the Cisco ASA5500 series is comparable on
> all features.
> 2) Anyone have firsthand experience with the fully tricked out NSA 240
> with the Gateway Security Suite of addons?  Any comments you can
> share?
> 3) I seem to remember some pretty fervent anti-SonicWall comments here
> lately, mostly due to offshoring of tech support.  Am I remembering
> that correctly?  Is it really so bad as to knock SonicWall off the
> list of contenders?
>
> Thanks one and all for any suggestions/ideas/comments,
>
> RS
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: New firewall recommendations

[asbzone]

I used to love Netscreen, although I haven't purchased one in a while, and 
Juniper has made the support much more complicated. 

Fortinet was started up by the guy that started Netscreen. 

They have a great product. 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:11:15 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: New firewall recommendations

+1 for fortinet.  Have 2 enterprise class units and 3 sbs units.  love them.
 Used to be fan of SonicWall.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

> Same here.  Awful experience with SonicWall.
>
> Loving my Fortinet though.  Great product, great interface, great
> support.
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:40 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: New firewall recommendations
>
>
> "3) I seem to remember some pretty fervent anti-SonicWall comments here
> lately, mostly due to offshoring of tech support.  Am I remembering that
> correctly?  Is it really so bad as to knock SonicWall off the list of
> contenders? "
>
> Support was so hideous for me on a TZ series, around 2005 I think, that
> I have refused to deal with them ever since, and do not recommend them
> to any
> clients I come across.   They may have changed and improved since then,
> but
> I haven't bothered to check back with them due to the negative
> experiences I had then.
>
> There are others with opposing opinions
>
> Erik Goldoff
> IT  Consultant
> Systems, Networks, & Security
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 12:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: New firewall recommendations
>
> Hola fellow admin peoples,
>
> I'm looking to replace our end of life Pix 515e firewalls.  We have two,
> one for each inbound ISP.  My SmartFilter subscription is also about to
> expire and I'm thinking I might like to move to a unified security
> solution.  So far, the only candidate I've found is the Sonciwall NSA
> series, specifically the NSA240 for our size network.
> It looks like it can do:
>
> 1) WAN failover  (1 firewall, multiple ISPs)
> 2) Traditional packet inspection / NAT, etc.
> 3) Layer 7 application inspection
> 4) Content filtering (to replace the SmartFilter)
> 5) A host of other buzzword goodies
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1) Are there any competing products that I should be loooking at?  I
> can't seem to figure out if the Cisco ASA5500 series is comparable on
> all features.
> 2) Anyone have firsthand experience with the fully tricked out NSA 240
> with the Gateway Security Suite of addons?  Any comments you can share?
> 3) I seem to remember some pretty fervent anti-SonicWall comments here
> lately, mostly due to offshoring of tech support.  Am I remembering that
> correctly?  Is it really so bad as to knock SonicWall off the list of
> contenders?
>
> Thanks one and all for any suggestions/ideas/comments,
>
> RS
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: New firewall recommendations

[David Baca]

+1





From: Andy Ognenoff 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 9:50:35 AM
Subject: RE: New firewall recommendations

>Support was so hideous for me on a TZ series, around 2005 I think, that I
>have refused to deal with them ever since, and do not recommend them to any
>clients I come across.   They may have changed and improved since then, but
>I haven't bothered to check back with them due to the negative experiences
>I had then.

I had the same experience around that time frame; however, I haven't had to
contact support for anything since either - it just runs. But I haven't
tried the NSA series yet - still on a Pro 2040.

- Andy O.



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~



  
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Network-wide indexing

[Phillip Partipilo]

This looks *awesome*.  Would this work on SBS 2008?

 

 

Phillip Partipilo

Parametric Solutions Inc.

Jupiter, Florida

(561) 747-6107

 

 

From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Network-wide indexing

 

http://www.microsoft.com/enterprisesearch/en/us/default.aspx

I think Express is free. 

 

I have one of the Google appliances sitting in my garage at home (wasn't
worth renewing the license). I always threaten to shut off Google with my
daughter when she acts up. HA, she still believes it.

 

 

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Network-wide indexing

 

I've never used it, but have seen the dt products advertised for years:

http://www.dtsearch.com/



Roger Wright
___

Sent from Tampa, FL, United States

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Phillip Partipilo  wrote:

Is there some software that will crawl our local network, and build a
recursive index of the filenames and their location on every share on every
computer on the network, and then provide an interface to query this index?
Each system here holds its own stash of data locally, and it would be nice
to do a query to find out how many copies are out there.  Just about 40
systems and two main server stashes.  A web interface to the query tool
would be cool too.


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107






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RE: Trying to get IAS to log to SQL

[Chris Orovet]

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc778830(WS.10).aspx 

 

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From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Trying to get IAS to log to SQL

 

I have failed.

How do I get SQL to accept the incoming traffic?

 

 

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Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

[David W. McSpadden]

I know my home banking provider shut their AT&T circuits down the morning of 
the 29th because the routes were blown.  They also have Sprint and one other 
in their data center.
So yeah AT&T being on the backbone and having hiccups themselves could 
trickle down to you.


--
From: "Stu Sjouwerman" 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 4:03 PM
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE]  Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on 
hold



Hi All,  Lyris apparently had a hiccup

Everyone got a "relay denied" that is reporting this problem.
Every single one of these people had a DNS lookup failure by Lyris (the
hiccup).
When this hiccup occurred, Lyris started using mxs1.fides.com
(66.45.246.210)
as the mail server, which denied relay. According to information, it all
goes back
to http://www.telnetcom.us/

I'm wondering if this was some sort of routing problem on the 28th of
October, but
that's when everyone's emails failed to deliver. It seem to occur in the
morning all
the way through the afternoon on that day until things started working
again. Not
sure why everyone just now got the hold messages. We will open a support
ticket
with Lyris on this.

Warm regards,

Stu Sjouwerman
Founder, VP Marketing.
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com



-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 3:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

+ whatever. I could see some activity in gmail but my work account has
been barren since Wed.

The sendmail guys insist it isn't anything here so could it have been
satan? Or just that friggin lyris thing I keep hearing about? LOL

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Oddly enough I didn't get one.  Isn't it weird, how, if you step back a
bit,
and look at our reliance on this list, how much of a tragedy it is when
you
aren't receiving emails from it? :-)


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107



-Original Message-
From: Wulff Jr, Ronald J. [mailto:rwu...@reedsmith.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold



Same here.  I wasn't bouncing any and none showed up in the spam
filters.  I am assuming it was just a glitch



-Original Message-
From: Scott Schneider [mailto:sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

No fluke I got it too. Checked my mail server and didn't see any bounced
emails. Lyris is suspect I think

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: October-30-09 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FW: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Didn't get any emails from Lyris for about 4 days, now this.  Now I am
back on.

Is this a Fluke?  So, what did I miss?

Sam




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To: Sam Cayze
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Re: New firewall recommendations

[Harry Singh]

In my experience, Sonicwall's are absolutely terrible when going against any
fortinet or Juniper FW's. I'd rather do a netgate box with either monowall
or pfsense than choose a Sonicwall, IMO.



On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Mike Sullivan  wrote:

> I also had the same experience back around that time but support and their
> software have matured a lot since then. Our main firewall is the Pro 3060
> and the field offices have the TZ180
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Andy Ognenoff wrote:
>
>> >Support was so hideous for me on a TZ series, around 2005 I think, that I
>> >have refused to deal with them ever since, and do not recommend them to
>> any
>> >clients I come across.   They may have changed and improved since then,
>> but
>> >I haven't bothered to check back with them due to the negative
>> experiences
>> >I had then.
>>
>> I had the same experience around that time frame; however, I haven't had
>> to
>> contact support for anything since either - it just runs. But I haven't
>> tried the NSA series yet - still on a Pro 2040.
>>
>>  - Andy O.
>>
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Mike Sullivan
> neog...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: New firewall recommendations

[Mike Sullivan]

I also had the same experience back around that time but support and their
software have matured a lot since then. Our main firewall is the Pro 3060
and the field offices have the TZ180

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Andy Ognenoff wrote:

> >Support was so hideous for me on a TZ series, around 2005 I think, that I
> >have refused to deal with them ever since, and do not recommend them to
> any
> >clients I come across.   They may have changed and improved since then,
> but
> >I haven't bothered to check back with them due to the negative experiences
> >I had then.
>
> I had the same experience around that time frame; however, I haven't had to
> contact support for anything since either - it just runs. But I haven't
> tried the NSA series yet - still on a Pro 2040.
>
>  - Andy O.
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>



-- 
Mike Sullivan
neog...@gmail.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

[Free, Bob]

Wow, that's a much better explanation than the euphemism we usually use.
Thanks Stu!

After >10 years here I have to wholeheartedly echo what Phillip said. I
*could* look in gmail but I am so used to it being in its little private
folder in my work Outlook it seemed like something was really wrong..a
disturbance in the Force if you will.

Glad it's all back and thanks again for explaining and being such a
gracious host. We can be troublesome to get along with at times I'm sure
:-)

-Original Message-
From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 1:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put
on hold

Hi All,  Lyris apparently had a hiccup 

Everyone got a "relay denied" that is reporting this problem. 
Every single one of these people had a DNS lookup failure by Lyris (the
hiccup).
When this hiccup occurred, Lyris started using mxs1.fides.com
(66.45.246.210) 
as the mail server, which denied relay. According to information, it all
goes back 
to http://www.telnetcom.us/ 

I'm wondering if this was some sort of routing problem on the 28th of
October, but 
that's when everyone's emails failed to deliver. It seem to occur in the
morning all 
the way through the afternoon on that day until things started working
again. Not 
sure why everyone just now got the hold messages. We will open a support
ticket 
with Lyris on this.

Warm regards,

Stu Sjouwerman
Founder, VP Marketing.
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com


 
-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 3:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

+ whatever. I could see some activity in gmail but my work account has
been barren since Wed. 

The sendmail guys insist it isn't anything here so could it have been
satan? Or just that friggin lyris thing I keep hearing about? LOL

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Oddly enough I didn't get one.  Isn't it weird, how, if you step back a
bit,
and look at our reliance on this list, how much of a tragedy it is when
you
aren't receiving emails from it? :-)

 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

[LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

[Stu Sjouwerman]

Hi All,  Lyris apparently had a hiccup 

Everyone got a "relay denied" that is reporting this problem. 
Every single one of these people had a DNS lookup failure by Lyris (the
hiccup).
When this hiccup occurred, Lyris started using mxs1.fides.com
(66.45.246.210) 
as the mail server, which denied relay. According to information, it all
goes back 
to http://www.telnetcom.us/ 

I'm wondering if this was some sort of routing problem on the 28th of
October, but 
that's when everyone's emails failed to deliver. It seem to occur in the
morning all 
the way through the afternoon on that day until things started working
again. Not 
sure why everyone just now got the hold messages. We will open a support
ticket 
with Lyris on this.

Warm regards,

Stu Sjouwerman
Founder, VP Marketing.
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com


 
-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 3:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

+ whatever. I could see some activity in gmail but my work account has
been barren since Wed. 

The sendmail guys insist it isn't anything here so could it have been
satan? Or just that friggin lyris thing I keep hearing about? LOL

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Oddly enough I didn't get one.  Isn't it weird, how, if you step back a
bit,
and look at our reliance on this list, how much of a tragedy it is when
you
aren't receiving emails from it? :-)

 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Wulff Jr, Ronald J. [mailto:rwu...@reedsmith.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
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Same here.  I wasn't bouncing any and none showed up in the spam
filters.  I am assuming it was just a glitch



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Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

No fluke I got it too. Checked my mail server and didn't see any bounced
emails. Lyris is suspect I think 

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: October-30-09 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FW: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Didn't get any emails from Lyris for about 4 days, now this.  Now I am
back on.

Is this a Fluke?  So, what did I miss?

Sam


 

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RE: New firewall recommendations

[Chris Orovet]

Its no better. Were currently using 2 of them and they are horrible imho. 
Support takes about 2 weeks to get back to us.

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-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 12:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: New firewall recommendations

>Support was so hideous for me on a TZ series, around 2005 I think, that I
>have refused to deal with them ever since, and do not recommend them to any
>clients I come across.   They may have changed and improved since then, but
>I haven't bothered to check back with them due to the negative experiences
>I had then.

I had the same experience around that time frame; however, I haven't had to
contact support for anything since either - it just runs. But I haven't
tried the NSA series yet - still on a Pro 2040.

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RE: Data Domain?

[Richard Stovall]

If you're considering the DD gateway, call your SE and have a chat with
them.  I kind of got the idea that it's really only marketed for very
specific use cases.  (And it ain't cheap.)

 

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 3:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Data Domain?

 

Good to know. We've been toying with the idea of replacing our current
solution. We're mostly an EMC shop as well, but we brought in an IBM
N5300 for our backup solution. Just wanted to make sure it would still
be usable should we go with a different software solution.

 

Thanks for the feedback

 

- Sean

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:

Yes DD supports various storage through their gateway product line.  But
they also sell appliances with the storage built in.

 

We are an EMC SAN shop.  Our EMC sales weenie came in with the Data
Domain guy.  They didn't even suggest to us that we buy the EMC storage
and use the gateway product.  Don't know if that is indicative of their
strategy going forward, or just the early integration.

 

My hope is that some of the DD capability will make it's way into
primary storage that works better than Avamar.  (and cheaper)

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sean Martin 
wrote:

Somewhat on the same topic

 

Does Data Domain support various storage solutions on the back-end? Is
there any worry that EMC might tie into their storage offerings somehow,
rendering other solutions unusable and/or unsupported?

 

- Sean

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:

I had a box in for 2 weeks testing.  It is very impressive.  They give
you 2 metrics.  They give you a deduplication amount, and then a
compression. So data is deduped, then compressed.  In our tests, the
total compression (dedupe x compressed) varied quite a bit based on the
data.  The total number also increases over time.  So your first backup
to DD only dedupes in essence duplicate files.  But the second and third
and fourth start adding significant dedupe.

 

In 2 weeks, flat file backups were getting close to 20x.  vRanger
backups of VMDC was getting 82x.  I had one share of flat file data that
got close to 40x on the first pass which is not typical.  That share
holds our "publications" data which we know has a lot of duplication
even at the file level, much less at the 4k block level.

 

SQL dumps of our Solarwinds (network monitor) DB got a 2x dedupe and
about a 4x compression - with only 2 full backups.

 

So yes, I believe 20x is realistic in most environments.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:

After attending a recent presentation for Data Domain's platform and
technology, I'm intrigued.  The stated up to 20X compression is
impressive if realistic. 

 

Can any of you relate your experience using DD's products?



Roger Wright
___



 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Data Domain?

[Sean Martin]

Good to know. We've been toying with the idea of replacing our current
solution. We're mostly an EMC shop as well, but we brought in an IBM N5300
for our backup solution. Just wanted to make sure it would still be usable
should we go with a different software solution.

Thanks for the feedback

- Sean

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:

> Yes DD supports various storage through their gateway product line.  But
> they also sell appliances with the storage built in.
>
> We are an EMC SAN shop.  Our EMC sales weenie came in with the Data Domain
> guy.  They didn't even suggest to us that we buy the EMC storage and use the
> gateway product.  Don't know if that is indicative of their strategy going
> forward, or just the early integration.
>
> My hope is that some of the DD capability will make it's way into primary
> storage that works better than Avamar.  (and cheaper)
>
>   On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sean Martin wrote:
>
>> Somewhat on the same topic
>>
>> Does Data Domain support various storage solutions on the back-end? Is
>> there any worry that EMC might tie into their storage offerings somehow,
>> rendering other solutions unusable and/or unsupported?
>>
>> - Sean
>>
>>   On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:
>>
>>> I had a box in for 2 weeks testing.  It is very impressive.  They give
>>> you 2 metrics.  They give you a deduplication amount, and then a
>>> compression. So data is deduped, then compressed.  In our tests, the total
>>> compression (dedupe x compressed) varied quite a bit based on the data.  The
>>> total number also increases over time.  So your first backup to DD only
>>> dedupes in essence duplicate files.  But the second and third and fourth
>>> start adding significant dedupe.
>>>
>>> In 2 weeks, flat file backups were getting close to 20x.  vRanger backups
>>> of VMDC was getting 82x.  I had one share of flat file data that got close
>>> to 40x on the first pass which is not typical.  That share holds our
>>> "publications" data which we know has a lot of duplication even at the file
>>> level, much less at the 4k block level.
>>>
>>> SQL dumps of our Solarwinds (network monitor) DB got a 2x dedupe and
>>> about a 4x compression - with only 2 full backups.
>>>
>>> So yes, I believe 20x is realistic in most environments.
>>>
>>>   On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Roger Wright wrote:
>>>
 After attending a recent presentation for Data Domain's platform and
 technology, I'm intrigued.  The stated up to 20X compression is impressive
 if realistic.

 Can any of you relate your experience using DD's products?


 Roger Wright
 ___







>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

[Orland, Kathleen]

Isn't that the real name? FriggingLyris? 

- Original Message - 
From: "Free, Bob" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 3:30 PM
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold


+ whatever. I could see some activity in gmail but my work account has
been barren since Wed. 

The sendmail guys insist it isn't anything here so could it have been
satan? Or just that friggin lyris thing I keep hearing about? LOL

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Oddly enough I didn't get one.  Isn't it weird, how, if you step back a
bit,
and look at our reliance on this list, how much of a tragedy it is when
you
aren't receiving emails from it? :-)

 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 

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From: Wulff Jr, Ronald J. [mailto:rwu...@reedsmith.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold



Same here.  I wasn't bouncing any and none showed up in the spam
filters.  I am assuming it was just a glitch



-Original Message-
From: Scott Schneider [mailto:sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

No fluke I got it too. Checked my mail server and didn't see any bounced
emails. Lyris is suspect I think 

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: October-30-09 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FW: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Didn't get any emails from Lyris for about 4 days, now this.  Now I am
back on.

Is this a Fluke?  So, what did I miss?

Sam


 

-Original Message-
From: Lyris ListManager
[mailto:lyris-nore...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:00 AM
To: Sam Cayze
Subject: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold


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Re: Ransomware

[Andrew S. Baker]

Host-based security is more than just antivirus, or so the saying goes. :)

Yeah, that's the mentality.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Phillip Partipilo  wrote:

> > The US DoD & company began pushing the term "Information Assurance"
> > (IA) for this reason.  People hear "security" and think
> > "pain-in-the-ass stuff that prevents real work from getting done".
> > People hear "assurance" and think "I don't really know what that
> > means, but it sounds like I should have it".
>
> Could a similar phenomenon explain the translation of "Symantec antivirus"
> to "endpoint protection"?
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
> Jupiter, Florida
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>  The US DoD & company began pushing the term "Information Assurance"
> (IA) for this reason.  People hear "security" and think
> "pain-in-the-ass stuff that prevents real work from getting done".
> People hear "assurance" and think "I don't really know what that
> means, but it sounds like I should have it".
>
>  Of course, in classic DoD fashion, the obvious contraction was never
> considered and is rather unfortunate: InfoAss.  ;-)
>
> -- Ben
>
>

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~   ~

Re: Data Domain?

[Kevin Lundy]

Yes DD supports various storage through their gateway product line.  But
they also sell appliances with the storage built in.

We are an EMC SAN shop.  Our EMC sales weenie came in with the Data Domain
guy.  They didn't even suggest to us that we buy the EMC storage and use the
gateway product.  Don't know if that is indicative of their strategy going
forward, or just the early integration.

My hope is that some of the DD capability will make it's way into primary
storage that works better than Avamar.  (and cheaper)

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sean Martin  wrote:

> Somewhat on the same topic
>
> Does Data Domain support various storage solutions on the back-end? Is
> there any worry that EMC might tie into their storage offerings somehow,
> rendering other solutions unusable and/or unsupported?
>
> - Sean
>
>   On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:
>
>> I had a box in for 2 weeks testing.  It is very impressive.  They give you
>> 2 metrics.  They give you a deduplication amount, and then a compression. So
>> data is deduped, then compressed.  In our tests, the total compression
>> (dedupe x compressed) varied quite a bit based on the data.  The total
>> number also increases over time.  So your first backup to DD only dedupes in
>> essence duplicate files.  But the second and third and fourth start adding
>> significant dedupe.
>>
>> In 2 weeks, flat file backups were getting close to 20x.  vRanger backups
>> of VMDC was getting 82x.  I had one share of flat file data that got close
>> to 40x on the first pass which is not typical.  That share holds our
>> "publications" data which we know has a lot of duplication even at the file
>> level, much less at the 4k block level.
>>
>> SQL dumps of our Solarwinds (network monitor) DB got a 2x dedupe and about
>> a 4x compression - with only 2 full backups.
>>
>> So yes, I believe 20x is realistic in most environments.
>>
>>   On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:
>>
>>> After attending a recent presentation for Data Domain's platform and
>>> technology, I'm intrigued.  The stated up to 20X compression is impressive
>>> if realistic.
>>>
>>> Can any of you relate your experience using DD's products?
>>>
>>>
>>> Roger Wright
>>> ___
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Smartboard Software Recommendations

[Kevin Lundy]

Ahh.  We aren't using them like that.  We just use the software to make it a
touch screen and to capture any drawings.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Kennedy, Jim
wrote:

>  We too have dedicated machines for the screens but what happens is they
> want to make presentations on their own computer so they want the software
> on it to create then they show it on the dedicated machines.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2009 2:26 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Smartboard Software Recommendations
>
>
>
> Just curious - are users needing it for laptops they bring into a room?  Or
> is there some functionality I may have missed?
>
>
>
> We have a dedicated computer in each conference room, so we install it
> there.
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Kennedy, Jim <
> kennedy...@elyriaschools.org> wrote:
>
> Sorry, didn’t answer the deploy issue.
>
>
>
> We deploy software that requires admin privs via a web page. We put the
> install up on a share, then use Wingnut Software’s RUNas utility to run it
> with an elevated account. Anyone wants the software they go there and click
> the download. The RunAs was a real deal…like a hundred bucks or so for a our
> whole domain. JoeWare also has a free version but I like Wingnut’s because
> it is encrypted.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Kennedy, Jim
> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2009 2:17 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Smartboard Software Recommendations
>
>
>
> If you bought a SMART brand then you got a license for Smart Notebook and
> that is what I would recommend. We are edu but the software is not at all
> specific to edu needs. It will do a good job for you and we have found it to
> be very stable and dependable. Just turn off the automatic updates when you
> install it. The nags for none admin users will drive them crazy, they update
> the software 10 or 15 times a day. Ok, not that much but it seems like it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Joe Tinney [mailto:jtin...@lastar.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2009 2:14 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: Smartboard Software Recommendations
>
>
>
> Guys and gals,
>
> I’m looking for suggestions/options on smartboard software.
> I’ve been tasked with the planning (on the IT side of things) on how to
> implement two smart boards, a SMART brand mobile board and a wall mounted
> Promethean board. I am a total n00b to this so any general pointers would be
> great as well. The equipment has already been purchased but the software has
> not.
>
>
>
> A few general questions:
>
> 1)  What is everyone using for software? (the free version, pay for
> version, etc)
>
> 2)  Is there ‘universal’ software that can be used? (looking to only
> have to deploy one package instead of 2)
>
> 3)  Are there any good/great 3rd party products that can be used to
> enhance this in a business environment?
>
> 4)  Does anyone have any experience deploying the software required
> for Promethean and SMART boards that doesn’t involve the use of the
> sneakernet and user interaction?
>
>
>
> It looks like this technology is primarily used in an educational
> environment. We are not an educational facility and our goal is to use these
> to enhance business meetings and presentations. Any information that you
> have to contribute from that angle would be great.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: New firewall recommendations

[Tom Miller]

What, no red flames?  It must not be good.  

>>> Richard Stovall  10/30/2009 3:10 PM >>>
Thanks for the input folks.  I'll check further into the ASAs and also
Fortinet.  I have to say, however, that the pricing on the SonicWall
240 looks extremely inviting.
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1892868 


On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Tom Miller  wrote:
> I have over a dozen Fortinet SOHO units and two enterprise units here.  Easy
> to configure, and a CLI for the advanced stuff.
>
 "Erik Goldoff"  10/30/2009 1:15 PM >>>
> Have a friend in the region that runs a VAR/ISP, and he's loved the
> Fortinet line for years, he recommends the Fortigate over the Netscreen for
> a firewall ... My understanding is that some of the Netscreen folks peeled
> off to form the Fortinet company
>
>
>
> Erik Goldoff
> IT  Consultant
> Systems, Networks, & Security
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 1:09 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: New firewall recommendations
>
> Same here.  Awful experience with SonicWall.
>
> Loving my Fortinet though.  Great product, great interface, great support.
>
> Sam
>
>
>
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RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

[Free, Bob]

+ whatever. I could see some activity in gmail but my work account has
been barren since Wed. 

The sendmail guys insist it isn't anything here so could it have been
satan? Or just that friggin lyris thing I keep hearing about? LOL

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Oddly enough I didn't get one.  Isn't it weird, how, if you step back a
bit,
and look at our reliance on this list, how much of a tragedy it is when
you
aren't receiving emails from it? :-)

 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 

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From: Wulff Jr, Ronald J. [mailto:rwu...@reedsmith.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold



Same here.  I wasn't bouncing any and none showed up in the spam
filters.  I am assuming it was just a glitch



-Original Message-
From: Scott Schneider [mailto:sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

No fluke I got it too. Checked my mail server and didn't see any bounced
emails. Lyris is suspect I think 

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: October-30-09 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FW: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Didn't get any emails from Lyris for about 4 days, now this.  Now I am
back on.

Is this a Fluke?  So, what did I miss?

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RE: Smartboard Software Recommendations

[Steven M. Caesare]

We have Smart Board frames here that are frames/surfaces on front of the
wall plasmas. We use the included software for drawing, annotating,
etc... they are reasonably useful in meetings. No 3rd party stuff we use
here that I am aware of...

 

-sc

 

From: Joe Tinney [mailto:jtin...@lastar.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Smartboard Software Recommendations

 

Guys and gals,

I'm looking for suggestions/options on smartboard
software. I've been tasked with the planning (on the IT side of things)
on how to implement two smart boards, a SMART brand mobile board and a
wall mounted Promethean board. I am a total n00b to this so any general
pointers would be great as well. The equipment has already been
purchased but the software has not.

 

A few general questions:

1)  What is everyone using for software? (the free version, pay for
version, etc)

2)  Is there 'universal' software that can be used? (looking to only
have to deploy one package instead of 2)

3)  Are there any good/great 3rd party products that can be used to
enhance this in a business environment?

4)  Does anyone have any experience deploying the software required
for Promethean and SMART boards that doesn't involve the use of the
sneakernet and user interaction?

 

It looks like this technology is primarily used in an educational
environment. We are not an educational facility and our goal is to use
these to enhance business meetings and presentations. Any information
that you have to contribute from that angle would be great.

 

Thanks in advance,

Joe 

 

 

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Re: Data Domain?

[Sean Martin]

Somewhat on the same topic

Does Data Domain support various storage solutions on the back-end? Is there
any worry that EMC might tie into their storage offerings somehow, rendering
other solutions unusable and/or unsupported?

- Sean

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:

> I had a box in for 2 weeks testing.  It is very impressive.  They give you
> 2 metrics.  They give you a deduplication amount, and then a compression. So
> data is deduped, then compressed.  In our tests, the total compression
> (dedupe x compressed) varied quite a bit based on the data.  The total
> number also increases over time.  So your first backup to DD only dedupes in
> essence duplicate files.  But the second and third and fourth start adding
> significant dedupe.
>
> In 2 weeks, flat file backups were getting close to 20x.  vRanger backups
> of VMDC was getting 82x.  I had one share of flat file data that got close
> to 40x on the first pass which is not typical.  That share holds our
> "publications" data which we know has a lot of duplication even at the file
> level, much less at the 4k block level.
>
> SQL dumps of our Solarwinds (network monitor) DB got a 2x dedupe and about
> a 4x compression - with only 2 full backups.
>
> So yes, I believe 20x is realistic in most environments.
>
>   On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:
>
>> After attending a recent presentation for Data Domain's platform and
>> technology, I'm intrigued.  The stated up to 20X compression is impressive
>> if realistic.
>>
>> Can any of you relate your experience using DD's products?
>>
>>
>> Roger Wright
>> ___
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Re: Ransomware

[Andrew S. Baker]

You know how the DoD is... :)

*ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
*Providing Competitive Advantage through Effective IT Leadership*



On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Andrew S. Baker 
> wrote:
> > Because it shows a distinct lack of understanding about Information
> > Security.  InfoSec is about risk mitigation and revenue *protection*.
>
>   The US DoD & company began pushing the term "Information Assurance"
> (IA) for this reason.  People hear "security" and think
> "pain-in-the-ass stuff that prevents real work from getting done".
> People hear "assurance" and think "I don't really know what that
> means, but it sounds like I should have it".
>
>  Of course, in classic DoD fashion, the obvious contraction was never
> considered and is rather unfortunate: InfoAss.  ;-)
>
> -- Ben
>
>

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Re: Ransomware

[Andrew S. Baker]

There are times where an organization can obtain business by having a
certain level of compliance that it could not otherwise have.

But yes, it is true that increasing revenue is not one of the primary goals
of information security.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Erik Goldoff  wrote:

>  "  If made a part of a larger business strategy, it can also contribute
> positively to revenue, ... "
> I think that's up for debate, especially based on perspective ...  It can
> protect the mechanisms that support a revenue stream, but I think there are
> very few cases for non-IT companies where InfoSec can actually *add* to the
> revenue stream.  It's normally a part of the fixed overhead cost.
>
> If your company makes widgets, you can show that x dollars of raw materials
> and y dollars of labor cost contribute to revenue of y dollars when the
> widget sell.  There is a direct relation to the cost of raw material
> required to produce the widget, as well as the time it takes to convert that
> raw material to a widget
>
> They only really see the value after the fact, when they see what has
> actually been lost by NOT implementing proper security proactively.
>
>  Erik Goldoff
>
> *IT  Consultant*
>
> *Systems, Networks, & Security *
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2009 9:47 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Ransomware
>
> Definitely...  And that is short-sighted.
>
> Because it shows a distinct lack of understanding about Information
> Security.  InfoSec is about risk mitigation and revenue *protection*.  If
> made a part of a larger business strategy, it can also contribute positively
> to revenue, but that is not it's primary goal.
>
> The alarm system on your car does not make it faster, more gas efficient or
> more comfortable, but it helps to ensure that you have the use of your car
> for a longer period of time.
>
> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
> *Providing Competitive Advantage through Effective IT Leadership*
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Erik Goldoff  wrote:
>
>>  a LOT of it comes back to budget ... the decision makers are loathe to
>> include budget for *anything* that does not generate revenue, and work
>> towards reducing fixed overhead costs.
>>
>>  Erik Goldoff
>>
>> *IT  Consultant*
>>
>> *Systems, Networks, & Security *
>>
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* Marc Maiffret [mailto:m...@marcmaiffret.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:28 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Ransomware
>>
>>  Another on the list of reasons of why it drives me insane that so many
>> companies still sit around saying the same thing year after year:
>>
>> Why would anyone come after me? I am joe small business in joe small town.
>> I am not wells fargo.
>> I have never had an incident before beyond the normal spyware and such.
>>
>> Questions and comments which are so easily slain as are the servers and
>> workstations of the people whom make them.
>>
>> Two types of people call by company, the ones whom are looking to be
>> proactive and avoid the pain of what a breach can turn into and the ones
>> whom thought like the people above whom now are looking for people to help
>> clean up the mess.
>>
>> -Marc Maiffret
>> www.marcmaiffret.com
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:
>>
>>> Spyware, Malware, Scareware, etc  now we have Ransomware.
>>>
>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4748
>>>
>>>
>>> Roger Wright
>>> ___
>>>
>>> Sent from Tampa, FL, United States
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Re: Data Domain?

[Kevin Lundy]

I had a box in for 2 weeks testing.  It is very impressive.  They give you 2
metrics.  They give you a deduplication amount, and then a compression. So
data is deduped, then compressed.  In our tests, the total compression
(dedupe x compressed) varied quite a bit based on the data.  The total
number also increases over time.  So your first backup to DD only dedupes in
essence duplicate files.  But the second and third and fourth start adding
significant dedupe.

In 2 weeks, flat file backups were getting close to 20x.  vRanger backups of
VMDC was getting 82x.  I had one share of flat file data that got close to
40x on the first pass which is not typical.  That share holds our
"publications" data which we know has a lot of duplication even at the file
level, much less at the 4k block level.

SQL dumps of our Solarwinds (network monitor) DB got a 2x dedupe and about a
4x compression - with only 2 full backups.

So yes, I believe 20x is realistic in most environments.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:

> After attending a recent presentation for Data Domain's platform and
> technology, I'm intrigued.  The stated up to 20X compression is impressive
> if realistic.
>
> Can any of you relate your experience using DD's products?
>
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Data Domain?

[Richard Stovall]

In a word, superb.  Great product, great field support, works exactly
as advertised.  (DD530).

Here's a snippet of a recent usage report.

==  SERVER USAGE   ==
Resource Size GiB   Used GiB   Avail GiB   Use%   Cleanable GiB*
--         -      --
/backup: pre-comp   -59199.7   -  --
/backup: post-comp 2542.2 1108.9  1433.344%  0.2
/ddvar   19.72.016.711%-
--         -      --


And yes, you read it correctly.  That's 59TB or raw storage compressed
down to 1.1TB.  (The compression ratio is a little bit high because of
one VM with a TON of committed but unused disk space, so it skews the
number a bit.)

The only knock I have on them is just how expensive they are.

RS



On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:
> After attending a recent presentation for Data Domain's platform and
> technology, I'm intrigued.  The stated up to 20X compression is impressive
> if realistic.
> Can any of you relate your experience using DD's products?
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Data Domain?

[Sean Martin]

They were recently acquired by EMC if that helps your decision at all.

We use Asigra, I don't like it, for many many reasons, but it does seem to
compress and de-dupe very well.

- Sean

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Roger Wright  wrote:

> After attending a recent presentation for Data Domain's platform and
> technology, I'm intrigued.  The stated up to 20X compression is impressive
> if realistic.
>
> Can any of you relate your experience using DD's products?
>
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: New firewall recommendations

[Richard Stovall]

Thanks for the input folks.  I'll check further into the ASAs and also
Fortinet.  I have to say, however, that the pricing on the SonicWall
240 looks extremely inviting.
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1892868


On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Tom Miller  wrote:
> I have over a dozen Fortinet SOHO units and two enterprise units here.  Easy
> to configure, and a CLI for the advanced stuff.
>
 "Erik Goldoff"  10/30/2009 1:15 PM >>>
> Have a friend in the region that runs a VAR/ISP, and he's loved the
> Fortinet line for years, he recommends the Fortigate over the Netscreen for
> a firewall ... My understanding is that some of the Netscreen folks peeled
> off to form the Fortinet company
>
>
>
> Erik Goldoff
> IT  Consultant
> Systems, Networks, & Security
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 1:09 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: New firewall recommendations
>
> Same here.  Awful experience with SonicWall.
>
> Loving my Fortinet though.  Great product, great interface, great support.
>
> Sam
>
>
>
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Data Domain?

[Roger Wright]

After attending a recent presentation for Data Domain's platform and
technology, I'm intrigued.  The stated up to 20X compression is impressive
if realistic.

Can any of you relate your experience using DD's products?


Roger Wright
___

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Re: Ransomware

[Richard Stovall]

"Endpoint protection" sounds to me like a euphemism for CYA.  (Now
whether that's a literal or figurative "A", well, I suppose that's
contextual...)

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Phillip Partipilo  wrote:
>> The US DoD & company began pushing the term "Information Assurance"
>> (IA) for this reason.  People hear "security" and think
>> "pain-in-the-ass stuff that prevents real work from getting done".
>> People hear "assurance" and think "I don't really know what that
>> means, but it sounds like I should have it".
>
> Could a similar phenomenon explain the translation of "Symantec antivirus"
> to "endpoint protection"?
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
> Jupiter, Florida
> (561) 747-6107

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RE: Ransomware

[Phillip Partipilo]

> The US DoD & company began pushing the term "Information Assurance"
> (IA) for this reason.  People hear "security" and think
> "pain-in-the-ass stuff that prevents real work from getting done".
> People hear "assurance" and think "I don't really know what that
> means, but it sounds like I should have it".

Could a similar phenomenon explain the translation of "Symantec antivirus"
to "endpoint protection"?


 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 
  The US DoD & company began pushing the term "Information Assurance"
(IA) for this reason.  People hear "security" and think
"pain-in-the-ass stuff that prevents real work from getting done".
People hear "assurance" and think "I don't really know what that
means, but it sounds like I should have it".

  Of course, in classic DoD fashion, the obvious contraction was never
considered and is rather unfortunate: InfoAss.  ;-)

-- Ben

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RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

[Phillip Partipilo]

Oddly enough I didn't get one.  Isn't it weird, how, if you step back a bit,
and look at our reliance on this list, how much of a tragedy it is when you
aren't receiving emails from it? :-)

 
Phillip Partipilo
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Same here.  I wasn't bouncing any and none showed up in the spam
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Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:03 AM
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No fluke I got it too. Checked my mail server and didn't see any bounced
emails. Lyris is suspect I think 

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From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: October-30-09 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FW: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Didn't get any emails from Lyris for about 4 days, now this.  Now I am
back on.

Is this a Fluke?  So, what did I miss?

Sam


 

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RE: Windows 7 KMS

[Tim Evans]

I don't think it did it before, but slmgr.vbs /dlv tells you how many 
activations you have now.

...Tim

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 KMS

Ahh... Crap.  Forgot about the minimum.

From: Tim Evans [mailto:tev...@sparling.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 KMS

I did it and only added my R2 KMS key and it all works, including Windows 7. My 
only problem was getting enough activation for the Windows 7 stuff to activate.

...Tim

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 7 KMS

Has anyone successfully added a Windows7 KMS key to a 2008 KMS server?

I have installed KB968912 and have rebooted.  I also installed my R2 key, which 
was successful.  However, KMS won't accept the W7 KMS key.  Google searches 
seem to indicate this may be a common problem.

Thanks,

BF















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RE: Windows 7 KMS

[Bob Fronk]

Ahh... Crap.  Forgot about the minimum.

From: Tim Evans [mailto:tev...@sparling.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 KMS

I did it and only added my R2 KMS key and it all works, including Windows 7. My 
only problem was getting enough activation for the Windows 7 stuff to activate.

...Tim

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 7 KMS

Has anyone successfully added a Windows7 KMS key to a 2008 KMS server?

I have installed KB968912 and have rebooted.  I also installed my R2 key, which 
was successful.  However, KMS won't accept the W7 KMS key.  Google searches 
seem to indicate this may be a common problem.

Thanks,

BF











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RE: Windows 7 KMS

[Tim Evans]

I did it and only added my R2 KMS key and it all works, including Windows 7. My 
only problem was getting enough activation for the Windows 7 stuff to activate.

...Tim

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 7 KMS

Has anyone successfully added a Windows7 KMS key to a 2008 KMS server?

I have installed KB968912 and have rebooted.  I also installed my R2 key, which 
was successful.  However, KMS won't accept the W7 KMS key.  Google searches 
seem to indicate this may be a common problem.

Thanks,

BF







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~   ~

Windows 7 KMS

[Bob Fronk]

Has anyone successfully added a Windows7 KMS key to a 2008 KMS server?

I have installed KB968912 and have rebooted.  I also installed my R2 key, which 
was successful.  However, KMS won't accept the W7 KMS key.  Google searches 
seem to indicate this may be a common problem.

Thanks,

BF



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~   ~

RE: Smartboard Software Recommendations

[Kennedy, Jim]

It does. One key and it is wide open to install anywhere you want per the 
license. We can even let students or staff install it at home if they want, the 
license specifically mentions that.  They want to sell smartboards not software 
is the impression I have from how they have it set up. So the more they get 
people in an organization using the software the more likely that org will buy 
more boards.


From: Joe Tinney [mailto:jtin...@lastar.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Smartboard Software Recommendations

laptops if the licensing and deployment options allow for that easily and 
affordably



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Trying to get IAS to log to SQL

[David W. McSpadden]

I have failed.
How do I get SQL to accept the incoming traffic?
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Smartboard Software Recommendations

[Joe Tinney]

That requirement is one that I also have to work out. We have discussed
deployment and installation on individual laptops if the licensing and
deployment options allow for that easily and affordably. Otherwise, we
would look at putting up standalone stations. Those bring other
challenges regarding file retrieval, etc, that would have to be worked
out. 

 

From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Smartboard Software Recommendations

 

Just curious - are users needing it for laptops they bring into a room?
Or is there some functionality I may have missed?

 

We have a dedicated computer in each conference room, so we install it
there.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Kennedy, Jim
 wrote:

Sorry, didn't answer the deploy issue.

 

We deploy software that requires admin privs via a web page. We put the
install up on a share, then use Wingnut Software's RUNas utility to run
it with an elevated account. Anyone wants the software they go there and
click the download. The RunAs was a real deal...like a hundred bucks or
so for a our whole domain. JoeWare also has a free version but I like
Wingnut's because it is encrypted.

 

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:17 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Smartboard Software Recommendations 

 

If you bought a SMART brand then you got a license for Smart Notebook
and that is what I would recommend. We are edu but the software is not
at all specific to edu needs. It will do a good job for you and we have
found it to be very stable and dependable. Just turn off the automatic
updates when you install it. The nags for none admin users will drive
them crazy, they update the software 10 or 15 times a day. Ok, not that
much but it seems like it.

 

 

 

From: Joe Tinney [mailto:jtin...@lastar.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Smartboard Software Recommendations

 

Guys and gals,

I'm looking for suggestions/options on smartboard
software. I've been tasked with the planning (on the IT side of things)
on how to implement two smart boards, a SMART brand mobile board and a
wall mounted Promethean board. I am a total n00b to this so any general
pointers would be great as well. The equipment has already been
purchased but the software has not.

 

A few general questions:

1)  What is everyone using for software? (the free version, pay for
version, etc)

2)  Is there 'universal' software that can be used? (looking to only
have to deploy one package instead of 2)

3)  Are there any good/great 3rd party products that can be used to
enhance this in a business environment?

4)  Does anyone have any experience deploying the software required
for Promethean and SMART boards that doesn't involve the use of the
sneakernet and user interaction?

 

It looks like this technology is primarily used in an educational
environment. We are not an educational facility and our goal is to use
these to enhance business meetings and presentations. Any information
that you have to contribute from that angle would be great.

 

Thanks in advance,

Joe 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Smartboard Software Recommendations

[Kennedy, Jim]

We too have dedicated machines for the screens but what happens is they want to 
make presentations on their own computer so they want the software on it to 
create then they show it on the dedicated machines.



From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Smartboard Software Recommendations

Just curious - are users needing it for laptops they bring into a room?  Or is 
there some functionality I may have missed?

We have a dedicated computer in each conference room, so we install it there.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Kennedy, Jim 
mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org>> wrote:
Sorry, didn't answer the deploy issue.

We deploy software that requires admin privs via a web page. We put the install 
up on a share, then use Wingnut Software's RUNas utility to run it with an 
elevated account. Anyone wants the software they go there and click the 
download. The RunAs was a real deal...like a hundred bucks or so for a our 
whole domain. JoeWare also has a free version but I like Wingnut's because it 
is encrypted.



From: Kennedy, Jim
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:17 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Smartboard Software Recommendations

If you bought a SMART brand then you got a license for Smart Notebook and that 
is what I would recommend. We are edu but the software is not at all specific 
to edu needs. It will do a good job for you and we have found it to be very 
stable and dependable. Just turn off the automatic updates when you install it. 
The nags for none admin users will drive them crazy, they update the software 
10 or 15 times a day. Ok, not that much but it seems like it.



From: Joe Tinney [mailto:jtin...@lastar.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Smartboard Software Recommendations

Guys and gals,
I'm looking for suggestions/options on smartboard software. 
I've been tasked with the planning (on the IT side of things) on how to 
implement two smart boards, a SMART brand mobile board and a wall mounted 
Promethean board. I am a total n00b to this so any general pointers would be 
great as well. The equipment has already been purchased but the software has 
not.

A few general questions:

1)  What is everyone using for software? (the free version, pay for 
version, etc)

2)  Is there 'universal' software that can be used? (looking to only have 
to deploy one package instead of 2)

3)  Are there any good/great 3rd party products that can be used to enhance 
this in a business environment?

4)  Does anyone have any experience deploying the software required for 
Promethean and SMART boards that doesn't involve the use of the sneakernet and 
user interaction?

It looks like this technology is primarily used in an educational environment. 
We are not an educational facility and our goal is to use these to enhance 
business meetings and presentations. Any information that you have to 
contribute from that angle would be great.

Thanks in advance,
Joe














~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Smartboard Software Recommendations

[Joe Tinney]

That's a good thought. On the similar KBOX note, they have a 'software
portal' that allows users to initiate the install of software that has
been approved of them. This may be the first bit of software that we put
in that space. The rest of our software is pretty standard.

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Smartboard Software Recommendations

 

Sorry, didn't answer the deploy issue.

 

We deploy software that requires admin privs via a web page. We put the
install up on a share, then use Wingnut Software's RUNas utility to run
it with an elevated account. Anyone wants the software they go there and
click the download. The RunAs was a real deal...like a hundred bucks or
so for a our whole domain. JoeWare also has a free version but I like
Wingnut's because it is encrypted.

 

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Smartboard Software Recommendations

 

If you bought a SMART brand then you got a license for Smart Notebook
and that is what I would recommend. We are edu but the software is not
at all specific to edu needs. It will do a good job for you and we have
found it to be very stable and dependable. Just turn off the automatic
updates when you install it. The nags for none admin users will drive
them crazy, they update the software 10 or 15 times a day. Ok, not that
much but it seems like it.

 

 

 

From: Joe Tinney [mailto:jtin...@lastar.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Smartboard Software Recommendations

 

Guys and gals,

I'm looking for suggestions/options on smartboard
software. I've been tasked with the planning (on the IT side of things)
on how to implement two smart boards, a SMART brand mobile board and a
wall mounted Promethean board. I am a total n00b to this so any general
pointers would be great as well. The equipment has already been
purchased but the software has not.

 

A few general questions:

1)  What is everyone using for software? (the free version, pay for
version, etc)

2)  Is there 'universal' software that can be used? (looking to only
have to deploy one package instead of 2)

3)  Are there any good/great 3rd party products that can be used to
enhance this in a business environment?

4)  Does anyone have any experience deploying the software required
for Promethean and SMART boards that doesn't involve the use of the
sneakernet and user interaction?

 

It looks like this technology is primarily used in an educational
environment. We are not an educational facility and our goal is to use
these to enhance business meetings and presentations. Any information
that you have to contribute from that angle would be great.

 

Thanks in advance,

Joe 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Smartboard Software Recommendations

[Kevin Lundy]

Just curious - are users needing it for laptops they bring into a room?  Or
is there some functionality I may have missed?

We have a dedicated computer in each conference room, so we install it
there.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Kennedy, Jim
wrote:

>  Sorry, didn’t answer the deploy issue.
>
>
>
> We deploy software that requires admin privs via a web page. We put the
> install up on a share, then use Wingnut Software’s RUNas utility to run it
> with an elevated account. Anyone wants the software they go there and click
> the download. The RunAs was a real deal…like a hundred bucks or so for a our
> whole domain. JoeWare also has a free version but I like Wingnut’s because
> it is encrypted.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Kennedy, Jim
> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2009 2:17 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Smartboard Software Recommendations
>
>
>
> If you bought a SMART brand then you got a license for Smart Notebook and
> that is what I would recommend. We are edu but the software is not at all
> specific to edu needs. It will do a good job for you and we have found it to
> be very stable and dependable. Just turn off the automatic updates when you
> install it. The nags for none admin users will drive them crazy, they update
> the software 10 or 15 times a day. Ok, not that much but it seems like it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Joe Tinney [mailto:jtin...@lastar.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2009 2:14 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: Smartboard Software Recommendations
>
>
>
> Guys and gals,
>
> I’m looking for suggestions/options on smartboard software.
> I’ve been tasked with the planning (on the IT side of things) on how to
> implement two smart boards, a SMART brand mobile board and a wall mounted
> Promethean board. I am a total n00b to this so any general pointers would be
> great as well. The equipment has already been purchased but the software has
> not.
>
>
>
> A few general questions:
>
> 1)  What is everyone using for software? (the free version, pay for
> version, etc)
>
> 2)  Is there ‘universal’ software that can be used? (looking to only
> have to deploy one package instead of 2)
>
> 3)  Are there any good/great 3rd party products that can be used to
> enhance this in a business environment?
>
> 4)  Does anyone have any experience deploying the software required
> for Promethean and SMART boards that doesn’t involve the use of the
> sneakernet and user interaction?
>
>
>
> It looks like this technology is primarily used in an educational
> environment. We are not an educational facility and our goal is to use these
> to enhance business meetings and presentations. Any information that you
> have to contribute from that angle would be great.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Smartboard Software Recommendations

[Kennedy, Jim]

Sorry, didn't answer the deploy issue.

We deploy software that requires admin privs via a web page. We put the install 
up on a share, then use Wingnut Software's RUNas utility to run it with an 
elevated account. Anyone wants the software they go there and click the 
download. The RunAs was a real deal...like a hundred bucks or so for a our 
whole domain. JoeWare also has a free version but I like Wingnut's because it 
is encrypted.



From: Kennedy, Jim
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Smartboard Software Recommendations

If you bought a SMART brand then you got a license for Smart Notebook and that 
is what I would recommend. We are edu but the software is not at all specific 
to edu needs. It will do a good job for you and we have found it to be very 
stable and dependable. Just turn off the automatic updates when you install it. 
The nags for none admin users will drive them crazy, they update the software 
10 or 15 times a day. Ok, not that much but it seems like it.



From: Joe Tinney [mailto:jtin...@lastar.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Smartboard Software Recommendations

Guys and gals,
I'm looking for suggestions/options on smartboard software. 
I've been tasked with the planning (on the IT side of things) on how to 
implement two smart boards, a SMART brand mobile board and a wall mounted 
Promethean board. I am a total n00b to this so any general pointers would be 
great as well. The equipment has already been purchased but the software has 
not.

A few general questions:

1)  What is everyone using for software? (the free version, pay for 
version, etc)

2)  Is there 'universal' software that can be used? (looking to only have 
to deploy one package instead of 2)

3)  Are there any good/great 3rd party products that can be used to enhance 
this in a business environment?

4)  Does anyone have any experience deploying the software required for 
Promethean and SMART boards that doesn't involve the use of the sneakernet and 
user interaction?

It looks like this technology is primarily used in an educational environment. 
We are not an educational facility and our goal is to use these to enhance 
business meetings and presentations. Any information that you have to 
contribute from that angle would be great.

Thanks in advance,
Joe





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Smartboard Software Recommendations

[Kevin Lundy]

Concur.  We have the SMART, and we aren't edu.  Also agree on the updates.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Kennedy, Jim
wrote:

>  If you bought a SMART brand then you got a license for Smart Notebook and
> that is what I would recommend. We are edu but the software is not at all
> specific to edu needs. It will do a good job for you and we have found it to
> be very stable and dependable. Just turn off the automatic updates when you
> install it. The nags for none admin users will drive them crazy, they update
> the software 10 or 15 times a day. Ok, not that much but it seems like it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Joe Tinney [mailto:jtin...@lastar.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2009 2:14 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: Smartboard Software Recommendations
>
>
>
> Guys and gals,
>
> I’m looking for suggestions/options on smartboard software.
> I’ve been tasked with the planning (on the IT side of things) on how to
> implement two smart boards, a SMART brand mobile board and a wall mounted
> Promethean board. I am a total n00b to this so any general pointers would be
> great as well. The equipment has already been purchased but the software has
> not.
>
>
>
> A few general questions:
>
> 1)  What is everyone using for software? (the free version, pay for
> version, etc)
>
> 2)  Is there ‘universal’ software that can be used? (looking to only
> have to deploy one package instead of 2)
>
> 3)  Are there any good/great 3rd party products that can be used to
> enhance this in a business environment?
>
> 4)  Does anyone have any experience deploying the software required
> for Promethean and SMART boards that doesn’t involve the use of the
> sneakernet and user interaction?
>
>
>
> It looks like this technology is primarily used in an educational
> environment. We are not an educational facility and our goal is to use these
> to enhance business meetings and presentations. Any information that you
> have to contribute from that angle would be great.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Smartboard Software Recommendations

[Kennedy, Jim]

If you bought a SMART brand then you got a license for Smart Notebook and that 
is what I would recommend. We are edu but the software is not at all specific 
to edu needs. It will do a good job for you and we have found it to be very 
stable and dependable. Just turn off the automatic updates when you install it. 
The nags for none admin users will drive them crazy, they update the software 
10 or 15 times a day. Ok, not that much but it seems like it.



From: Joe Tinney [mailto:jtin...@lastar.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Smartboard Software Recommendations

Guys and gals,
I'm looking for suggestions/options on smartboard software. 
I've been tasked with the planning (on the IT side of things) on how to 
implement two smart boards, a SMART brand mobile board and a wall mounted 
Promethean board. I am a total n00b to this so any general pointers would be 
great as well. The equipment has already been purchased but the software has 
not.

A few general questions:

1)  What is everyone using for software? (the free version, pay for 
version, etc)

2)  Is there 'universal' software that can be used? (looking to only have 
to deploy one package instead of 2)

3)  Are there any good/great 3rd party products that can be used to enhance 
this in a business environment?

4)  Does anyone have any experience deploying the software required for 
Promethean and SMART boards that doesn't involve the use of the sneakernet and 
user interaction?

It looks like this technology is primarily used in an educational environment. 
We are not an educational facility and our goal is to use these to enhance 
business meetings and presentations. Any information that you have to 
contribute from that angle would be great.

Thanks in advance,
Joe





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

OT: Smartboard Software Recommendations

[Joe Tinney]

Guys and gals,

I'm looking for suggestions/options on smartboard
software. I've been tasked with the planning (on the IT side of things)
on how to implement two smart boards, a SMART brand mobile board and a
wall mounted Promethean board. I am a total n00b to this so any general
pointers would be great as well. The equipment has already been
purchased but the software has not.

 

A few general questions:

1)  What is everyone using for software? (the free version, pay for
version, etc)

2)  Is there 'universal' software that can be used? (looking to only
have to deploy one package instead of 2)

3)  Are there any good/great 3rd party products that can be used to
enhance this in a business environment?

4)  Does anyone have any experience deploying the software required
for Promethean and SMART boards that doesn't involve the use of the
sneakernet and user interaction?

 

It looks like this technology is primarily used in an educational
environment. We are not an educational facility and our goal is to use
these to enhance business meetings and presentations. Any information
that you have to contribute from that angle would be great.

 

Thanks in advance,

Joe 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: New firewall recommendations

[Tom Miller]

I have over a dozen Fortinet SOHO units and two enterprise units here.  Easy to 
configure, and a CLI for the advanced stuff.

>>> "Erik Goldoff"  10/30/2009 1:15 PM >>>
Have a friend in the region that runs a VAR/ISP, and he's loved the
Fortinet line for years, he recommends the Fortigate over the Netscreen for
a firewall ... My understanding is that some of the Netscreen folks peeled
off to form the Fortinet company



Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security 


-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 1:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: New firewall recommendations

Same here.  Awful experience with SonicWall.

Loving my Fortinet though.  Great product, great interface, great support.

Sam



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~   ~

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RE: New firewall recommendations

[Clarke, Thomas]

We use Junioer Netscreen and have had great support and easy setup as well with 
them.



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-Original Message-
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 12:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: New firewall recommendations

 Have a friend in the region that runs a VAR/ISP, and he's loved the
Fortinet line for years, he recommends the Fortigate over the Netscreen for
a firewall ... My understanding is that some of the Netscreen folks peeled
off to form the Fortinet company



Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security 


-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 1:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: New firewall recommendations

Same here.  Awful experience with SonicWall.

Loving my Fortinet though.  Great product, great interface, great support.

Sam



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: New firewall recommendations

[Erik Goldoff]

 Have a friend in the region that runs a VAR/ISP, and he's loved the
Fortinet line for years, he recommends the Fortigate over the Netscreen for
a firewall ... My understanding is that some of the Netscreen folks peeled
off to form the Fortinet company



Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security 


-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 1:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: New firewall recommendations

Same here.  Awful experience with SonicWall.

Loving my Fortinet though.  Great product, great interface, great support.

Sam



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~   ~

OMA Errors

[Cameron Cooper]

Trying to get OMA to work and notice that the following errors messages
are in event viewer:

 

Event ID: 1503  Source MSExchangeOMA

 

An unknown error occurred while processing the current request:

Message: Method not found: 'System.String
System.DirectoryServices.DirectoryEntry.get_Password()'.

Source: Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.Preferencing

Stack trace:

   at
Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.Preferencing.AdUserObject.get_globalWirelessEnabl
e()

   at
Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.Preferencing.AdUserObject.get_UserIsWirelesslyEna
bled()

   at
Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.Preferencing.OmaUserInfo.get_UserIsWirelesslyEnab
led()

   at Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.UserInterface.Global.Session_Start(Object
sender, EventArgs e)

 

Message: Exception of type
'Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.DataProviderInterface.ProviderException' was
thrown.

EventMessage: 

UserMessage: A System error has occurred while processing your request.
Please try again. If the problem persists, contact your administrator.

Source: Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.UserInterface

Stack trace:

   at Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.UserInterface.Global.Session_Start(Object
sender, EventArgs e)

   at System.Web.SessionState.SessionStateModule.RaiseOnStart(EventArgs
e)

   at System.Web.SessionState.SessionStateModule.CompleteAcquireState()

   at
System.Web.SessionState.SessionStateModule.BeginAcquireState(Object
source, EventArgs e, AsyncCallback cb, Object extraData)

   at
System.Web.HttpApplication.AsyncEventExecutionStep.System.Web.HttpApplic
ation.IExecutionStep.Execute()

   at System.Web.HttpApplication.ExecuteStep(IExecutionStep step,
Boolean& completedSynchronously)

 

 

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

 

 

Event ID: 1334  Source: ASP.NET 2.0.50727.0

 

An unhandled exception occurred and the process was terminated.

 

Application ID: /LM/W3SVC/1/root/OMA

 

Process ID: 5944

 

Exception: System.NullReferenceException

 

Message: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

 

StackTrace:at Microsoft.Exchange.OMA.UserInterface.Global.Finalize()

 

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

 

 

Event ID: 5000 Source: .NET Runtime 2.0 Error

 

EventType clr20r3, P1 w3wp.exe, P2 6.0.3790.3959, P3 45d6968e, P4
microsoft.exchange.oma.userinterface, P5 6.5.0.0, P6 430e745e, P7 463,
P8 0, P9 system.nullreferenceexception, P10 NIL.

 

 

 

Running on Exchange 2003 SP2 on Windows 2003 Server R2 SP2.  OWA works
without any problems.

 

Ideas?

 

_

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Inc

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: New firewall recommendations

[Jeff Brown]

+1 for fortinet.  Have 2 enterprise class units and 3 sbs units.  love them.
 Used to be fan of SonicWall.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

> Same here.  Awful experience with SonicWall.
>
> Loving my Fortinet though.  Great product, great interface, great
> support.
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:40 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: New firewall recommendations
>
>
> "3) I seem to remember some pretty fervent anti-SonicWall comments here
> lately, mostly due to offshoring of tech support.  Am I remembering that
> correctly?  Is it really so bad as to knock SonicWall off the list of
> contenders? "
>
> Support was so hideous for me on a TZ series, around 2005 I think, that
> I have refused to deal with them ever since, and do not recommend them
> to any
> clients I come across.   They may have changed and improved since then,
> but
> I haven't bothered to check back with them due to the negative
> experiences I had then.
>
> There are others with opposing opinions
>
> Erik Goldoff
> IT  Consultant
> Systems, Networks, & Security
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 12:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: New firewall recommendations
>
> Hola fellow admin peoples,
>
> I'm looking to replace our end of life Pix 515e firewalls.  We have two,
> one for each inbound ISP.  My SmartFilter subscription is also about to
> expire and I'm thinking I might like to move to a unified security
> solution.  So far, the only candidate I've found is the Sonciwall NSA
> series, specifically the NSA240 for our size network.
> It looks like it can do:
>
> 1) WAN failover  (1 firewall, multiple ISPs)
> 2) Traditional packet inspection / NAT, etc.
> 3) Layer 7 application inspection
> 4) Content filtering (to replace the SmartFilter)
> 5) A host of other buzzword goodies
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1) Are there any competing products that I should be loooking at?  I
> can't seem to figure out if the Cisco ASA5500 series is comparable on
> all features.
> 2) Anyone have firsthand experience with the fully tricked out NSA 240
> with the Gateway Security Suite of addons?  Any comments you can share?
> 3) I seem to remember some pretty fervent anti-SonicWall comments here
> lately, mostly due to offshoring of tech support.  Am I remembering that
> correctly?  Is it really so bad as to knock SonicWall off the list of
> contenders?
>
> Thanks one and all for any suggestions/ideas/comments,
>
> RS
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: New firewall recommendations

[Sam Cayze]

Same here.  Awful experience with SonicWall.

Loving my Fortinet though.  Great product, great interface, great
support.

Sam



-Original Message-
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: New firewall recommendations

 
"3) I seem to remember some pretty fervent anti-SonicWall comments here
lately, mostly due to offshoring of tech support.  Am I remembering that
correctly?  Is it really so bad as to knock SonicWall off the list of
contenders? "

Support was so hideous for me on a TZ series, around 2005 I think, that
I have refused to deal with them ever since, and do not recommend them
to any
clients I come across.   They may have changed and improved since then,
but
I haven't bothered to check back with them due to the negative
experiences I had then.

There are others with opposing opinions

Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security 


-Original Message-
From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 12:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: New firewall recommendations

Hola fellow admin peoples,

I'm looking to replace our end of life Pix 515e firewalls.  We have two,
one for each inbound ISP.  My SmartFilter subscription is also about to
expire and I'm thinking I might like to move to a unified security
solution.  So far, the only candidate I've found is the Sonciwall NSA
series, specifically the NSA240 for our size network.
It looks like it can do:

1) WAN failover  (1 firewall, multiple ISPs)
2) Traditional packet inspection / NAT, etc.
3) Layer 7 application inspection
4) Content filtering (to replace the SmartFilter)
5) A host of other buzzword goodies

My questions are:

1) Are there any competing products that I should be loooking at?  I
can't seem to figure out if the Cisco ASA5500 series is comparable on
all features.
2) Anyone have firsthand experience with the fully tricked out NSA 240
with the Gateway Security Suite of addons?  Any comments you can share?
3) I seem to remember some pretty fervent anti-SonicWall comments here
lately, mostly due to offshoring of tech support.  Am I remembering that
correctly?  Is it really so bad as to knock SonicWall off the list of
contenders?

Thanks one and all for any suggestions/ideas/comments,

RS

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: New firewall recommendations

[Andy Ognenoff]

>Support was so hideous for me on a TZ series, around 2005 I think, that I
>have refused to deal with them ever since, and do not recommend them to any
>clients I come across.   They may have changed and improved since then, but
>I haven't bothered to check back with them due to the negative experiences
>I had then.

I had the same experience around that time frame; however, I haven't had to
contact support for anything since either - it just runs. But I haven't
tried the NSA series yet - still on a Pro 2040.

 - Andy O.



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: New firewall recommendations

[Erik Goldoff]

 
"3) I seem to remember some pretty fervent anti-SonicWall comments here
lately, mostly due to offshoring of tech support.  Am I remembering that
correctly?  Is it really so bad as to knock SonicWall off the list of
contenders? "

Support was so hideous for me on a TZ series, around 2005 I think, that I
have refused to deal with them ever since, and do not recommend them to any
clients I come across.   They may have changed and improved since then, but
I haven't bothered to check back with them due to the negative experiences I
had then.

There are others with opposing opinions

Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security 


-Original Message-
From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 12:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: New firewall recommendations

Hola fellow admin peoples,

I'm looking to replace our end of life Pix 515e firewalls.  We have two, one
for each inbound ISP.  My SmartFilter subscription is also about to expire
and I'm thinking I might like to move to a unified security solution.  So
far, the only candidate I've found is the Sonciwall NSA series, specifically
the NSA240 for our size network.
It looks like it can do:

1) WAN failover  (1 firewall, multiple ISPs)
2) Traditional packet inspection / NAT, etc.
3) Layer 7 application inspection
4) Content filtering (to replace the SmartFilter)
5) A host of other buzzword goodies

My questions are:

1) Are there any competing products that I should be loooking at?  I can't
seem to figure out if the Cisco ASA5500 series is comparable on all
features.
2) Anyone have firsthand experience with the fully tricked out NSA 240 with
the Gateway Security Suite of addons?  Any comments you can share?
3) I seem to remember some pretty fervent anti-SonicWall comments here
lately, mostly due to offshoring of tech support.  Am I remembering that
correctly?  Is it really so bad as to knock SonicWall off the list of
contenders?

Thanks one and all for any suggestions/ideas/comments,

RS

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

NEC SAN

[John Aldrich]

Anyone know anything about the NEC SANs? I got a call from one of their
people this morning wanting to talk to me about our storage project. I told
him what I'm wanting and he recommended their D3i. From what I saw on their
website, it looks like it'll do what I want. I don't know what the cost is
going to be, but I don't know what a lot of the other vendors' proposals are
going to cost either.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: New firewall recommendations

[John Aldrich]

Well, I don't know if it can do what you want in one box, but I sure like
the Cisco ASA devices. We replaced two of our three Pix firewalls (three
different locations, connected by firewall-to-firewall VPN) with the
comparable ASA device. Works well. I'm not a Cisco guy... I only know what I
know (how to create VPN users) because I was given a "cookbook" recipe for
creating a VPN user. 

It's simple to manage and "just works." About the only thing I wish it did
was NAT the connection from our Metro Ethernet circuit to our old T1 IP. We
didn't want to change the dozen or so VPN users so we kept our old T1 IP and
just put a Cisco router in front of our firewall to do the NATing.




-Original Message-
From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 12:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: New firewall recommendations

Hola fellow admin peoples,

I'm looking to replace our end of life Pix 515e firewalls.  We have
two, one for each inbound ISP.  My SmartFilter subscription is also
about to expire and I'm thinking I might like to move to a unified
security solution.  So far, the only candidate I've found is the
Sonciwall NSA series, specifically the NSA240 for our size network.
It looks like it can do:

1) WAN failover  (1 firewall, multiple ISPs)
2) Traditional packet inspection / NAT, etc.
3) Layer 7 application inspection
4) Content filtering (to replace the SmartFilter)
5) A host of other buzzword goodies

My questions are:

1) Are there any competing products that I should be loooking at?  I
can't seem to figure out if the Cisco ASA5500 series is comparable on
all features.
2) Anyone have firsthand experience with the fully tricked out NSA 240
with the Gateway Security Suite of addons?  Any comments you can
share?
3) I seem to remember some pretty fervent anti-SonicWall comments here
lately, mostly due to offshoring of tech support.  Am I remembering
that correctly?  Is it really so bad as to knock SonicWall off the
list of contenders?

Thanks one and all for any suggestions/ideas/comments,

RS

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.39/2469 - Release Date: 10/30/09
07:52:00

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: New firewall recommendations

[Jon Harris]

Get a Cisco person to talk to you about the ASA series.  I did a PIX 515E to
ASA 5505 replacement and things looked good.  The company I was with at the
time would not go for the SmartFilter but it was available.  They did do the
license upgrade though so that AnyConnect was available as well as the
traditional VPN client.  The language was different and there was some new
stuff to do but over all it was good.  I would also look at maybe an ISA
appliance as well.

Jon

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Richard Stovall  wrote:

> Hola fellow admin peoples,
>
> I'm looking to replace our end of life Pix 515e firewalls.  We have
> two, one for each inbound ISP.  My SmartFilter subscription is also
> about to expire and I'm thinking I might like to move to a unified
> security solution.  So far, the only candidate I've found is the
> Sonciwall NSA series, specifically the NSA240 for our size network.
> It looks like it can do:
>
> 1) WAN failover  (1 firewall, multiple ISPs)
> 2) Traditional packet inspection / NAT, etc.
> 3) Layer 7 application inspection
> 4) Content filtering (to replace the SmartFilter)
> 5) A host of other buzzword goodies
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1) Are there any competing products that I should be loooking at?  I
> can't seem to figure out if the Cisco ASA5500 series is comparable on
> all features.
> 2) Anyone have firsthand experience with the fully tricked out NSA 240
> with the Gateway Security Suite of addons?  Any comments you can
> share?
> 3) I seem to remember some pretty fervent anti-SonicWall comments here
> lately, mostly due to offshoring of tech support.  Am I remembering
> that correctly?  Is it really so bad as to knock SonicWall off the
> list of contenders?
>
> Thanks one and all for any suggestions/ideas/comments,
>
> RS
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

New firewall recommendations

[Richard Stovall]

Hola fellow admin peoples,

I'm looking to replace our end of life Pix 515e firewalls.  We have
two, one for each inbound ISP.  My SmartFilter subscription is also
about to expire and I'm thinking I might like to move to a unified
security solution.  So far, the only candidate I've found is the
Sonciwall NSA series, specifically the NSA240 for our size network.
It looks like it can do:

1) WAN failover  (1 firewall, multiple ISPs)
2) Traditional packet inspection / NAT, etc.
3) Layer 7 application inspection
4) Content filtering (to replace the SmartFilter)
5) A host of other buzzword goodies

My questions are:

1) Are there any competing products that I should be loooking at?  I
can't seem to figure out if the Cisco ASA5500 series is comparable on
all features.
2) Anyone have firsthand experience with the fully tricked out NSA 240
with the Gateway Security Suite of addons?  Any comments you can
share?
3) I seem to remember some pretty fervent anti-SonicWall comments here
lately, mostly due to offshoring of tech support.  Am I remembering
that correctly?  Is it really so bad as to knock SonicWall off the
list of contenders?

Thanks one and all for any suggestions/ideas/comments,

RS

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Kace KBOX systems

[tony patton]

Thanks for that info, I'll take a look at it.

Mainly wanted to test the software deployment to get a feel for it.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:
"Joe Tinney" 
To:
"NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:
30/10/2009 14:47
Subject:
RE: Kace KBOX systems



Adobe Reader, Mozilla Firefox and Adobe Flash are actually deployable via 
the Patching mechanism of the KBOX. In the configuration for patching and 
product selection you need to check the box for Software Installers. You 
can approve them just like any other patch. It doesn?t offer any 
robustness in the way of customizing the Adobe Reader install but for 
things like Flash and Firefox there isn?t much customization to be had to 
begin with.
 
There are many other products deployable via Patching (iTunes, Quicktime, 
Java, etc).
 
From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 10:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Kace KBOX systems
 
That's next on my test list, the apps below are more or less the main 
non-ms stuff we use, we roll-out ms patches via wsus at the minute. 

Would have liked the eval to be the current version, but other than that 
it seems very good all-round, interface is good, there are some prettier 
ones but it's the functionality that counts. 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 


From: 
"Tom Miller"  
To: 
"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date: 
30/10/2009 14:27 
Subject: 
RE: Kace KBOX systems
 




Wow, that's nice.  Does it do patch management as easily? 

>>> tony patton  10/30/2009 10:19 AM >>>
I downloaded the eval vm the day before yesterday from their site. 

Had it up and running in an ESXi test environment, configured, agents 
pushed out, inventoried and had pushed out Acrobat Reader, Flash and 
FireFox to 6 test PCs in under an hour. 
Think the download was the longest part of it. 

The eval vm is the previous version and doesn't include additions to the 
current version, but gives good over view of it. 
It comes with 25 licenses for 30 days, but is limited to XP SP3. 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 

From: 
"Tom Miller"  
To: 
"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date: 
30/10/2009 13:10 
Subject: 
RE: Kace KBOX systems
 




I wonder how it compares to Microsoft's Configuration Manager.  We are 
moving from Novell Zenworks to Configuration Manager, and CM, while 
feature-rich, has an awful lot of "hands on" work to be done to get it 
working and maintained.  That might be nice for big shops for have staff 
dedicated to desktop management, but doesn't work here where I only have 
maybe 1/4 a day a week to even look at it. 
 
Zenworks was great (easy to use and configure), but much more expensive 
than CM.  Now I don't know if it was worth it, considering the additional 
time I have to spend on it. 
 
Anyone with any other desktop management products, that don't require lots 
of hand-holding, care to jump in and comment? 
 
 
 
 
 
Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528 

>>> tony patton  10/30/2009 4:09 AM >>>
They may have rewritten it for the current version, the eval vm is still 
on 4. 

Out of ~2800 desktops, only about half of them are 7xx, the rest are 
gx-260s, 270s, 280s, 520s, 620s with a few sx280s. 

I created test packages for Reader 714, FireFox 3.5.4 and UltraVNC with no 
issues to a testbed of 6 vms. 
We're tied to Reader 7.x.x here due to a compatability issue with later 
versions, not sure if it's true or not but that's been the line since 
before I started over 2 years ago, and the team that supports the 
application will not re-test it. 

Have to say, from what I've seen of it so far, I like it a lot, definitely 
beats altiris IMO 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 

From: 
"Joe Tinney"  
To: 
"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date: 
29/10/2009 17:01 
Subject: 
RE: Kace KBOX systems






Right now, with the agent dormant on my machine, it is taking up 7MB of 
memory. The memory usage does jump up there when it is actually doing 
stuff, but that shouldn?t be too often. If you did a patch detection once 
a week you would still be detecting 4 times more often than patches are 
generally released. 

You are correct in that you cannot create a Managed Software Installation 
for a product that has not yet been detected but it can be deployed via 
the Scripting functionality if you needed to get it done. I wish they 
would let you give all the details of the software to be deployed in the 
case that it hasn?t been installed anywhere yet and therefore not 
detected.. 

KBOX can update drivers for any product that Dell supports with their Open 
Manage platform. I believe that

RE: Kace KBOX systems

[Rod Trent]

Its similar, but different because of the number of non-Windows it supports 
(i.e., Mac specifically), although you can manage other systems with CM through 
add-ons.

 

I have a good friend that is a PM there.

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Kace KBOX systems

 

I wonder how it compares to Microsoft's Configuration Manager.  We are moving 
from Novell Zenworks to Configuration Manager, and CM, while feature-rich, has 
an awful lot of "hands on" work to be done to get it working and maintained.  
That might be nice for big shops for have staff dedicated to desktop 
management, but doesn't work here where I only have maybe 1/4 a day a week to 
even look at it.  

 

Zenworks was great (easy to use and configure), but much more expensive than 
CM.  Now I don't know if it was worth it, considering the additional time I 
have to spend on it.

 

Anyone with any other desktop management products, that don't require lots of 
hand-holding, care to jump in and comment?

 

 

 

 

 

Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528 

>>> tony patton  10/30/2009 4:09 AM >>>
They may have rewritten it for the current version, the eval vm is still on 4. 

Out of ~2800 desktops, only about half of them are 7xx, the rest are gx-260s, 
270s, 280s, 520s, 620s with a few sx280s. 

I created test packages for Reader 714, FireFox 3.5.4 and UltraVNC with no 
issues to a testbed of 6 vms. 
We're tied to Reader 7.x.x here due to a compatability issue with later 
versions, not sure if it's true or not but that's been the line since before I 
started over 2 years ago, and the team that supports the application will not 
re-test it. 

Have to say, from what I've seen of it so far, I like it a lot, definitely 
beats altiris IMO 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 


From: 

"Joe Tinney"  


To: 

"NT System Admin Issues"  


Date: 

29/10/2009 17:01 


Subject: 

RE: Kace KBOX systems

 

  _  




Right now, with the agent dormant on my machine, it is taking up 7MB of memory. 
The memory usage does jump up there when it is actually doing stuff, but that 
shouldn’t be too often. If you did a patch detection once a week you would 
still be detecting 4 times more often than patches are generally released. 
  
You are correct in that you cannot create a Managed Software Installation for a 
product that has not yet been detected but it can be deployed via the Scripting 
functionality if you needed to get it done. I wish they would let you give all 
the details of the software to be deployed in the case that it hasn’t been 
installed anywhere yet and therefore not detected.. 
  
KBOX can update drivers for any product that Dell supports with their Open 
Manage platform. I believe that starts at Dell’s Optiplex 7xx series and 
greater for desktops and Latitude E5xxx series and greater for laptops. Servers 
are in the Open Manage platform, also, so they have drivers for that. 
  
I have deployed a handful of patches and Adobe Reader 9 as a test. 
  
The Adobe deployment went great but the patching took a while to execute. It 
was over a WAN and also on some old Dell Dimension desktops so I was going more 
for success than speed on those tests. 
  
I have been into Reporting but I haven’t had a real cause to report on anything 
yet so I’ve just used the standard reports. 
  
From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Kace KBOX systems 
  
I installed the eval vm last night, found it pretty good, but it's the previous 
version. 
Noticed the agent was a bit heavy at ~20mb, other than that I liked it. 
Found it a bit strange that you couldn't add software for distribution until it 
had been installed on a PC and picked up in the inventory. 

We would be looking at it for inventory, patch management and software 
distribution mainly. 

We're also evaluating Symantec Altiris Management Console as we're a dell shop 
and it allows us to control the hardware, but it's not very intuitive and it's 
slower than an elephant in a tarpit. 

Have you played much yet with deploying apps/patches or the reporting aspect of 
it? 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 


From: 

"Joe Tinney"  


To: 

"NT System Admin Issues"  


Date: 

29/10/2009 13:33 


Subject: 

RE: Kace KBOX systems


  

 

  _  





We just bought the Virtual KBOX 1100 and are currently going through their 
training and implementation. Anything specific you are looking for? 
So far, everything is working as advertised and it hasn’t ruined the 11 
machines I have the agent on. 
 
I’m pleased with it so far. 
 
From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance

Re: Online Event Registration/Ticketing?

[Christopher]

I haven't used Eventbrite from the organizer's side, but from an attendee's
perspective, it was a very pleasant transaction.  Several local associations
that I am affiliated with have started using it and I've heard no
complaints.


-cb

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Roger Wright  wrote:

> I also found these two:
>
> http://www.eventbrite.com/l/demo
>
> http://www.acteva.com/onlinedemo/
>
>  Looks like the typical fee is around
> 2½-3% of the ticket price.  That's not too bad to track the purchases,
> collect/process the payments, and issue confirmation numbers & tickets.
>
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, looks promising... especially for a one-of type event.
>>
>>
>> Roger Wright
>> ___
>>
>> Sent from Tampa, FL, United States
>>
>>
>>  On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Andy Ognenoff 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Funny you should mention this, I just got an email about this company
>>> that
>>> looks interesting. Haven’t used them but might be worth checking out.
>>>
>>> http://www.guestlistapp.com/
>>>
>>>  - Andy O.
>>> 
>>> From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:57 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Online Event Registration/Ticketing?
>>>
>>> Looking for an online event management system (registration, ticketing,
>>> and
>>> payments) for an upcoming conference.  We expect about 200 attendees.
>>>
>>> Any recommendations?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Roger Wright
>>> ___
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~   ~
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Online Event Registration/Ticketing?

[Roger Wright]

I also found these two:

http://www.eventbrite.com/l/demo

http://www.acteva.com/onlinedemo/

Looks like the typical fee is around
2½-3% of the ticket price.  That's not too bad to track the purchases,
collect/process the payments, and issue confirmation numbers & tickets.


Roger Wright
___




On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:

> Thanks, looks promising... especially for a one-of type event.
>
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
> Sent from Tampa, FL, United States
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Andy Ognenoff wrote:
>
>> Funny you should mention this, I just got an email about this company that
>> looks interesting. Haven’t used them but might be worth checking out.
>>
>> http://www.guestlistapp.com/
>>
>>  - Andy O.
>> 
>> From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:57 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Online Event Registration/Ticketing?
>>
>> Looking for an online event management system (registration, ticketing,
>> and
>> payments) for an upcoming conference.  We expect about 200 attendees.
>>
>> Any recommendations?
>>
>>
>>
>> Roger Wright
>> ___
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Ransomware

[Ben Scott]

  In the general vein of "this won't happen to me", check out the
below article on using zombies to gather likely-looking email messages
to automatically craft seemingly targeted social engineering attacks:

http://www.lottaworld.com/2009/04/ghostnet-social-malware-spear-phishing-and-social-engineerin

  Some of those are pretty scary.

  Ponderables:

  Even if *your* systems are secure, if an external associate's system
is compromised, it may be almost as bad.

  How many people have suppliers/customers/etc on a whitelist
exempting them from spam/malware/etc filtering?

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Ransomware

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
> Because it shows a distinct lack of understanding about Information
> Security.  InfoSec is about risk mitigation and revenue *protection*.

  The US DoD & company began pushing the term "Information Assurance"
(IA) for this reason.  People hear "security" and think
"pain-in-the-ass stuff that prevents real work from getting done".
People hear "assurance" and think "I don't really know what that
means, but it sounds like I should have it".

  Of course, in classic DoD fashion, the obvious contraction was never
considered and is rather unfortunate: InfoAss.  ;-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

[Wulff Jr, Ronald J.]

Same here.  I wasn't bouncing any and none showed up in the spam
filters.  I am assuming it was just a glitch



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No fluke I got it too. Checked my mail server and didn't see any bounced
emails. Lyris is suspect I think 

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Sent: October-30-09 11:00 AM
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Subject: FW: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Didn't get any emails from Lyris for about 4 days, now this.  Now I am
back on.

Is this a Fluke?  So, what did I miss?

Sam


 

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Re: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

[Orland, Kathleen]

We also made a dent in whirled peas and sorted out the whole Bermuda
Triangle thing.

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To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold


It's a little broke. For me a few weeks ago it was a single failure and it
wasn't a permanent failure it was a time out on my receiving MTA it got
bogged down. The list took me off for that one transient failure. I finally
got a hold of Stu and hooked me up the admin and they had me going again in
a matter of minutes.

As for what you missed, we solved world hunger, energy issues, world peace
and a few other global issues.



-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FW: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Didn't get any emails from Lyris for about 4 days, now this.  Now I am
back on.

Is this a Fluke?  So, what did I miss?

Sam




-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:00 AM
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Subject: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold


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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

[Kennedy, Jim]

It's a little broke. For me a few weeks ago it was a single failure and it 
wasn't a permanent failure it was a time out on my receiving MTA it got bogged 
down. The list took me off for that one transient failure. I finally got a hold 
of Stu and hooked me up the admin and they had me going again in a matter of 
minutes.

As for what you missed, we solved world hunger, energy issues, world peace and 
a few other global issues.



-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FW: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Didn't get any emails from Lyris for about 4 days, now this.  Now I am
back on.

Is this a Fluke?  So, what did I miss?

Sam


 

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Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:00 AM
To: Sam Cayze
Subject: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold


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RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

[Scott Schneider]

No fluke I got it too. Checked my mail server and didn't see any bounced
emails. Lyris is suspect I think 

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: October-30-09 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FW: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Didn't get any emails from Lyris for about 4 days, now this.  Now I am
back on.

Is this a Fluke?  So, what did I miss?

Sam


 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:lyris-nore...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:00 AM
To: Sam Cayze
Subject: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold


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RE: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

[Steven M. Caesare]

Hmmm... I got that this morning as well.

-sc

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FW: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

Didn't get any emails from Lyris for about 4 days, now this.  Now I am
back on.

Is this a Fluke?  So, what did I miss?

Sam


 

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Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:00 AM
To: Sam Cayze
Subject: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold


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RE: Kace KBOX systems

[tony patton]

I think what your paying for compared to MS CM, is the fact that the 
patches and updates for non-ms stuff is done for you, you done have to 
manually work at it
just click and approve :)

For us it works out at around ?15 per desktop, it's at least half of the 
quote that we got for altiris, but we have a few people that would rather 
spend the money with symantec, hopefully they won't tho.  We have their 
AV, it's so-so, we also have their Endpoint encryption, complete disaster.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:
"Tom Miller" 
To:
"NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:
30/10/2009 14:55
Subject:
RE: Kace KBOX systems



Just spoke with one of their reps.  Yikes!  That product is far more 
expensive than Microsoft CM.  But I'm going to take a look at the demo in 
any case.  If it can really save time then it might be worth the cost.

>>> "Joe Tinney"  10/30/2009 10:46 AM >>>
Adobe Reader, Mozilla Firefox and Adobe Flash are actually deployable via 
the Patching mechanism of the KBOX. In the configuration for patching and 
product selection you need to check the box for Software Installers. You 
can approve them just like any other patch. It doesn?t offer any 
robustness in the way of customizing the Adobe Reader install but for 
things like Flash and Firefox there isn?t much customization to be had to 
begin with.
 
There are many other products deployable via Patching (iTunes, Quicktime, 
Java, etc).
 
From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 10:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Kace KBOX systems
 
That's next on my test list, the apps below are more or less the main 
non-ms stuff we use, we roll-out ms patches via wsus at the minute. 

Would have liked the eval to be the current version, but other than that 
it seems very good all-round, interface is good, there are some prettier 
ones but it's the functionality that counts. 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 


From: 
"Tom Miller"  
To: 
"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date: 
30/10/2009 14:27 
Subject: 
RE: Kace KBOX systems
 




Wow, that's nice.  Does it do patch management as easily? 

>>> tony patton  10/30/2009 10:19 AM >>>
I downloaded the eval vm the day before yesterday from their site. 

Had it up and running in an ESXi test environment, configured, agents 
pushed out, inventoried and had pushed out Acrobat Reader, Flash and 
FireFox to 6 test PCs in under an hour. 
Think the download was the longest part of it. 

The eval vm is the previous version and doesn't include additions to the 
current version, but gives good over view of it. 
It comes with 25 licenses for 30 days, but is limited to XP SP3. 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 

From: 
"Tom Miller"  
To: 
"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date: 
30/10/2009 13:10 
Subject: 
RE: Kace KBOX systems
 




I wonder how it compares to Microsoft's Configuration Manager.  We are 
moving from Novell Zenworks to Configuration Manager, and CM, while 
feature-rich, has an awful lot of "hands on" work to be done to get it 
working and maintained.  That might be nice for big shops for have staff 
dedicated to desktop management, but doesn't work here where I only have 
maybe 1/4 a day a week to even look at it. 
 
Zenworks was great (easy to use and configure), but much more expensive 
than CM.  Now I don't know if it was worth it, considering the additional 
time I have to spend on it. 
 
Anyone with any other desktop management products, that don't require lots 
of hand-holding, care to jump in and comment? 
 
 
 
 
 
Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528 

>>> tony patton  10/30/2009 4:09 AM >>>
They may have rewritten it for the current version, the eval vm is still 
on 4. 

Out of ~2800 desktops, only about half of them are 7xx, the rest are 
gx-260s, 270s, 280s, 520s, 620s with a few sx280s. 

I created test packages for Reader 714, FireFox 3.5.4 and UltraVNC with no 
issues to a testbed of 6 vms. 
We're tied to Reader 7.x.x here due to a compatability issue with later 
versions, not sure if it's true or not but that's been the line since 
before I started over 2 years ago, and the team that supports the 
application will not re-test it. 

Have to say, from what I've seen of it so far, I like it a lot, definitely 
beats altiris IMO 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 

From: 
"Joe Tinney"  
To: 
"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date: 
29/10/2009 17:01 
Subject: 
RE: Kace KBOX systems






Right now, with the agent dormant on my machine, it is taking up 7MB of 
memory. The memory usage does jump up there when it is actually doing 
stuff, but that shou

FW: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold

[Sam Cayze]

Didn't get any emails from Lyris for about 4 days, now this.  Now I am
back on.

Is this a Fluke?  So, what did I miss?

Sam


 

-Original Message-
From: Lyris ListManager
[mailto:lyris-nore...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:00 AM
To: Sam Cayze
Subject: Your membership on ntsysadmin has been put on hold


This email message is to notify you that your membership to ntsysadmin
has been put on "hold".

This means that you will not receive mail from 'ntsysadmin'.

Your subscription has been held because at least 30 recent messages have
been either bounced by your email system, or could not be delivered at
all.

Your membership can be restored to "normal", by sending the command
"unhold"
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Note that if your email address continues to reject mail your
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Kace KBOX systems

[tony patton]

That's next on my test list, the apps below are more or less the main 
non-ms stuff we use, we roll-out ms patches via wsus at the minute.

Would have liked the eval to be the current version, but other than that 
it seems very good all-round, interface is good, there are some prettier 
ones but it's the functionality that counts.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:
"Tom Miller" 
To:
"NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:
30/10/2009 14:27
Subject:
RE: Kace KBOX systems



Wow, that's nice.  Does it do patch management as easily? 

>>> tony patton  10/30/2009 10:19 AM >>>
I downloaded the eval vm the day before yesterday from their site. 

Had it up and running in an ESXi test environment, configured, agents 
pushed out, inventoried and had pushed out Acrobat Reader, Flash and 
FireFox to 6 test PCs in under an hour. 
Think the download was the longest part of it. 

The eval vm is the previous version and doesn't include additions to the 
current version, but gives good over view of it. 
It comes with 25 licenses for 30 days, but is limited to XP SP3. 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 


From: 
"Tom Miller"  
To: 
"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date: 
30/10/2009 13:10 
Subject: 
RE: Kace KBOX systems




I wonder how it compares to Microsoft's Configuration Manager.  We are 
moving from Novell Zenworks to Configuration Manager, and CM, while 
feature-rich, has an awful lot of "hands on" work to be done to get it 
working and maintained.  That might be nice for big shops for have staff 
dedicated to desktop management, but doesn't work here where I only have 
maybe 1/4 a day a week to even look at it. 
 
Zenworks was great (easy to use and configure), but much more expensive 
than CM.  Now I don't know if it was worth it, considering the additional 
time I have to spend on it. 
 
Anyone with any other desktop management products, that don't require lots 
of hand-holding, care to jump in and comment? 
 
 
 
 
 
Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528 

>>> tony patton  10/30/2009 4:09 AM >>>
They may have rewritten it for the current version, the eval vm is still 
on 4. 

Out of ~2800 desktops, only about half of them are 7xx, the rest are 
gx-260s, 270s, 280s, 520s, 620s with a few sx280s. 

I created test packages for Reader 714, FireFox 3.5.4 and UltraVNC with no 
issues to a testbed of 6 vms. 
We're tied to Reader 7.x.x here due to a compatability issue with later 
versions, not sure if it's true or not but that's been the line since 
before I started over 2 years ago, and the team that supports the 
application will not re-test it. 

Have to say, from what I've seen of it so far, I like it a lot, definitely 
beats altiris IMO 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 

From: 
"Joe Tinney"  
To: 
"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date: 
29/10/2009 17:01 
Subject: 
RE: Kace KBOX systems





Right now, with the agent dormant on my machine, it is taking up 7MB of 
memory. The memory usage does jump up there when it is actually doing 
stuff, but that shouldn?t be too often. If you did a patch detection once 
a week you would still be detecting 4 times more often than patches are 
generally released. 
 
You are correct in that you cannot create a Managed Software Installation 
for a product that has not yet been detected but it can be deployed via 
the Scripting functionality if you needed to get it done. I wish they 
would let you give all the details of the software to be deployed in the 
case that it hasn?t been installed anywhere yet and therefore not 
detected.. 
 
KBOX can update drivers for any product that Dell supports with their Open 
Manage platform. I believe that starts at Dell?s Optiplex 7xx series and 
greater for desktops and Latitude E5xxx series and greater for laptops. 
Servers are in the Open Manage platform, also, so they have drivers for 
that. 
 
I have deployed a handful of patches and Adobe Reader 9 as a test. 
 
The Adobe deployment went great but the patching took a while to execute. 
It was over a WAN and also on some old Dell Dimension desktops so I was 
going more for success than speed on those tests. 
 
I have been into Reporting but I haven?t had a real cause to report on 
anything yet so I?ve just used the standard reports. 
 
From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Kace KBOX systems 
 
I installed the eval vm last night, found it pretty good, but it's the 
previous version. 
Noticed the agent was a bit heavy at ~20mb, other than that I liked it. 
Found it a bit strange that you couldn't add software for distribution 
until it had been installed on a PC and picked up in the inv

RE: Ransomware

[Erik Goldoff]

"  If made a part of a larger business strategy, it can also contribute
positively to revenue, ... "
I think that's up for debate, especially based on perspective ...  It can
protect the mechanisms that support a revenue stream, but I think there are
very few cases for non-IT companies where InfoSec can actually *add* to the
revenue stream.  It's normally a part of the fixed overhead cost.
 
If your company makes widgets, you can show that x dollars of raw materials
and y dollars of labor cost contribute to revenue of y dollars when the
widget sell.  There is a direct relation to the cost of raw material
required to produce the widget, as well as the time it takes to convert that
raw material to a widget
 
They only really see the value after the fact, when they see what has
actually been lost by NOT implementing proper security proactively.
 

Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

 

  _  

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Ransomware


Definitely...  And that is short-sighted.

Because it shows a distinct lack of understanding about Information
Security.  InfoSec is about risk mitigation and revenue *protection*.  If
made a part of a larger business strategy, it can also contribute positively
to revenue, but that is not it's primary goal.

The alarm system on your car does not make it faster, more gas efficient or
more comfortable, but it helps to ensure that you have the use of your car
for a longer period of time.


ASB (My XeeSM Profile)  
Providing Competitive Advantage through Effective IT Leadership



On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Erik Goldoff  wrote:


a LOT of it comes back to budget ... the decision makers are loathe to
include budget for *anything* that does not generate revenue, and work
towards reducing fixed overhead costs.
 


Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

 

  _  

From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:m...@marcmaiffret.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Ransomware


Another on the list of reasons of why it drives me insane that so many
companies still sit around saying the same thing year after year:
 
Why would anyone come after me? I am joe small business in joe small town. I
am not wells fargo.
I have never had an incident before beyond the normal spyware and such.
 
Questions and comments which are so easily slain as are the servers and
workstations of the people whom make them.
 
Two types of people call by company, the ones whom are looking to be
proactive and avoid the pain of what a breach can turn into and the ones
whom thought like the people above whom now are looking for people to help
clean up the mess.
 
-Marc Maiffret
www.marcmaiffret.com  
 
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:


Spyware, Malware, Scareware, etc  now we have Ransomware.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4748


Roger Wright
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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RE: Kace KBOX systems

[Tom Miller]

Wow, that's nice.  Does it do patch management as easily?  

>>> tony patton  10/30/2009 10:19 AM
>>>
I downloaded the eval vm the day before yesterday from their site. 

Had it up and running in an ESXi test environment, configured, agents
pushed out, inventoried and had pushed out Acrobat Reader, Flash and
FireFox to 6 test PCs in under an hour. 
Think the download was the longest part of it. 

The eval vm is the previous version and doesn't include additions to
the current version, but gives good over view of it. 
It comes with 25 licenses for 30 days, but is limited to XP SP3. 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 



From: "Tom Miller"  To: "NT System Admin Issues"
 Date: 30/10/2009 13:10 Subject:
RE: Kace KBOX systems




I wonder how it compares to Microsoft's Configuration Manager.  We are
moving from Novell Zenworks to Configuration Manager, and CM, while
feature-rich, has an awful lot of "hands on" work to be done to get it
working and maintained.  That might be nice for big shops for have staff
dedicated to desktop management, but doesn't work here where I only have
maybe 1/4 a day a week to even look at it.   
  
Zenworks was great (easy to use and configure), but much more expensive
than CM.  Now I don't know if it was worth it, considering the
additional time I have to spend on it. 
  
Anyone with any other desktop management products, that don't require
lots of hand-holding, care to jump in and comment? 
  
  
  
  
  
Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528 

>>> tony patton  10/30/2009 4:09 AM
>>>
They may have rewritten it for the current version, the eval vm is
still on 4.

Out of ~2800 desktops, only about half of them are 7xx, the rest are
gx-260s, 270s, 280s, 520s, 620s with a few sx280s.

I created test packages for Reader 714, FireFox 3.5.4 and UltraVNC with
no issues to a testbed of 6 vms.
We're tied to Reader 7.x.x here due to a compatability issue with later
versions, not sure if it's true or not but that's been the line since
before I started over 2 years ago, and the team that supports the
application will not re-test it.

Have to say, from what I've seen of it so far, I like it a lot,
definitely beats altiris IMO

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com


From:"Joe Tinney" To:"NT System Admin Issues"
Date:29/10/2009 17:01Subject:RE:
Kace KBOX systems





Right now, with the agent dormant on my machine, it is taking up 7MB of
memory. The memory usage does jump up there when it is actually doing
stuff, but that shouldn’t be too often. If you did a patch detection
once a week you would still be detecting 4 times more often than patches
are generally released.
 
You are correct in that you cannot create a Managed Software
Installation for a product that has not yet been detected but it can be
deployed via the Scripting functionality if you needed to get it done. I
wish they would let you give all the details of the software to be
deployed in the case that it hasn’t been installed anywhere yet and
therefore not detected..
 
KBOX can update drivers for any product that Dell supports with their
Open Manage platform. I believe that starts at Dell’s Optiplex 7xx
series and greater for desktops and Latitude E5xxx series and greater
for laptops. Servers are in the Open Manage platform, also, so they have
drivers for that.
 
I have deployed a handful of patches and Adobe Reader 9 as a test. 
 
The Adobe deployment went great but the patching took a while to
execute. It was over a WAN and also on some old Dell Dimension desktops
so I was going more for success than speed on those tests.
 
I have been into Reporting but I haven’t had a real cause to report on
anything yet so I’ve just used the standard reports.
 
From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Kace KBOX systems
 
I installed the eval vm last night, found it pretty good, but it's the
previous version.
Noticed the agent was a bit heavy at ~20mb, other than that I liked
it.
Found it a bit strange that you couldn't add software for distribution
until it had been installed on a PC and picked up in the inventory.

We would be looking at it for inventory, patch management and software
distribution mainly.

We're also evaluating Symantec Altiris Management Console as we're a
dell shop and it allows us to control the hardware, but it's not very
intuitive and it's slower than an elephant in a tarpit. 

Have you played much yet with deploying apps/patches or the reporting
aspect of it?

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com

From:"Joe Tinney" To:"NT System Admin Issues"
Date:29/10/2009 13:33Subject:RE:
Kace KBOX systems


  







We just b

RE: Kace KBOX systems

[tony patton]

I downloaded the eval vm the day before yesterday from their site.

Had it up and running in an ESXi test environment, configured, agents 
pushed out, inventoried and had pushed out Acrobat Reader, Flash and 
FireFox to 6 test PCs in under an hour.
Think the download was the longest part of it.

The eval vm is the previous version and doesn't include additions to the 
current version, but gives good over view of it.
It comes with 25 licenses for 30 days, but is limited to XP SP3.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:
"Tom Miller" 
To:
"NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:
30/10/2009 13:10
Subject:
RE: Kace KBOX systems



I wonder how it compares to Microsoft's Configuration Manager.  We are 
moving from Novell Zenworks to Configuration Manager, and CM, while 
feature-rich, has an awful lot of "hands on" work to be done to get it 
working and maintained.  That might be nice for big shops for have staff 
dedicated to desktop management, but doesn't work here where I only have 
maybe 1/4 a day a week to even look at it. 
 
Zenworks was great (easy to use and configure), but much more expensive 
than CM.  Now I don't know if it was worth it, considering the additional 
time I have to spend on it.
 
Anyone with any other desktop management products, that don't require lots 
of hand-holding, care to jump in and comment?
 
 
 
 
 
Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528 

>>> tony patton  10/30/2009 4:09 AM >>>
They may have rewritten it for the current version, the eval vm is still 
on 4. 

Out of ~2800 desktops, only about half of them are 7xx, the rest are 
gx-260s, 270s, 280s, 520s, 620s with a few sx280s. 

I created test packages for Reader 714, FireFox 3.5.4 and UltraVNC with no 
issues to a testbed of 6 vms. 
We're tied to Reader 7.x.x here due to a compatability issue with later 
versions, not sure if it's true or not but that's been the line since 
before I started over 2 years ago, and the team that supports the 
application will not re-test it. 

Have to say, from what I've seen of it so far, I like it a lot, definitely 
beats altiris IMO 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 


From: 
"Joe Tinney"  
To: 
"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date: 
29/10/2009 17:01 
Subject: 
RE: Kace KBOX systems




Right now, with the agent dormant on my machine, it is taking up 7MB of 
memory. The memory usage does jump up there when it is actually doing 
stuff, but that shouldn?t be too often. If you did a patch detection once 
a week you would still be detecting 4 times more often than patches are 
generally released. 
  
You are correct in that you cannot create a Managed Software Installation 
for a product that has not yet been detected but it can be deployed via 
the Scripting functionality if you needed to get it done. I wish they 
would let you give all the details of the software to be deployed in the 
case that it hasn?t been installed anywhere yet and therefore not 
detected.. 
  
KBOX can update drivers for any product that Dell supports with their Open 
Manage platform. I believe that starts at Dell?s Optiplex 7xx series and 
greater for desktops and Latitude E5xxx series and greater for laptops. 
Servers are in the Open Manage platform, also, so they have drivers for 
that. 
  
I have deployed a handful of patches and Adobe Reader 9 as a test. 
  
The Adobe deployment went great but the patching took a while to execute. 
It was over a WAN and also on some old Dell Dimension desktops so I was 
going more for success than speed on those tests. 
  
I have been into Reporting but I haven?t had a real cause to report on 
anything yet so I?ve just used the standard reports. 
  
From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Kace KBOX systems 
  
I installed the eval vm last night, found it pretty good, but it's the 
previous version. 
Noticed the agent was a bit heavy at ~20mb, other than that I liked it. 
Found it a bit strange that you couldn't add software for distribution 
until it had been installed on a PC and picked up in the inventory. 

We would be looking at it for inventory, patch management and software 
distribution mainly. 

We're also evaluating Symantec Altiris Management Console as we're a dell 
shop and it allows us to control the hardware, but it's not very intuitive 
and it's slower than an elephant in a tarpit. 

Have you played much yet with deploying apps/patches or the reporting 
aspect of it? 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 

From: 
"Joe Tinney"  
To: 
"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date: 
29/10/2009 13:33 
Subject: 
RE: Kace KBOX systems

  






We just bought the Virtual KBOX 1100 an

Re: Ransomware

[Andrew S. Baker]

Definitely...  And that is short-sighted.

Because it shows a distinct lack of understanding about Information
Security.  InfoSec is about risk mitigation and revenue *protection*.  If
made a part of a larger business strategy, it can also contribute positively
to revenue, but that is not it's primary goal.

The alarm system on your car does not make it faster, more gas efficient or
more comfortable, but it helps to ensure that you have the use of your car
for a longer period of time.

*ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
*Providing Competitive Advantage through Effective IT Leadership*



On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Erik Goldoff  wrote:

>  a LOT of it comes back to budget ... the decision makers are loathe to
> include budget for *anything* that does not generate revenue, and work
> towards reducing fixed overhead costs.
>
>  Erik Goldoff
>
> *IT  Consultant*
>
> *Systems, Networks, & Security *
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Marc Maiffret [mailto:m...@marcmaiffret.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:28 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Ransomware
>
>  Another on the list of reasons of why it drives me insane that so many
> companies still sit around saying the same thing year after year:
>
> Why would anyone come after me? I am joe small business in joe small town.
> I am not wells fargo.
> I have never had an incident before beyond the normal spyware and such.
>
> Questions and comments which are so easily slain as are the servers and
> workstations of the people whom make them.
>
> Two types of people call by company, the ones whom are looking to be
> proactive and avoid the pain of what a breach can turn into and the ones
> whom thought like the people above whom now are looking for people to help
> clean up the mess.
>
> -Marc Maiffret
> www.marcmaiffret.com
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:
>
>> Spyware, Malware, Scareware, etc  now we have Ransomware.
>>
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4748
>>
>>
>> Roger Wright
>> ___
>>
>> Sent from Tampa, FL, United States
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Ransomware

[Andrew S. Baker]

Yep, this is precisely why ransomware works.   Because there is more surety
in getting funds from the original owner who has no recourse and needs to
use that data, vs trying to find useful buyers in an undefinable or immature
market.

*ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
*Providing Competitive Advantage through Effective IT Leadership*



On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Jon Harris  wrote:

> I agree but will point out that many state level organizations (small
> agencies or offices) have poor to little in the way of backups.  I suspect
> many small or medium size companies are the same way.  If the data was
> valuable, as a sellable resource, it would have a small market.  On the
> other hand the data or loss of said data could destroy these same people but
> would fetch some money if it was still in place but just not available.
> People may not have saleable resources but may be willing to redeem their
> lost data for some money.
>
> Jon
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:56 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Ransomware works because you know one party that definitively has a high
>> value on the data you have obtained.
>>
>> A 3rd party will probably not place such a high value on the same data, or
>> you'd have to obtain more of it to get similar value.
>>
>> It all depends on the org and the type of data and the goals of the
>> intruder.
>>
>> Andrew S. Baker (ASB)
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> --
>> *From: *"Ziots, Edward" 
>> *Date: *Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:41:20 -0400
>> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject: *RE: Ransomware
>>
>>  I think a lot of companies, don’t consider this a big enough risk, or it
>> doesn’t come up on there radar, until they get hit, and are in reactive
>> mode, and the ohh crap button has been pushed.  I still think that convert
>> attacks are still the preferred method of information leakage and retrieval,
>> just from a hacking prespective, if I can penetrate your systems and siphon
>> off the juicy info I want, without you even knowing, then I can use your
>> data (crown jewels, because its all about the data) to sell to the highest
>> bidder.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why even go the route of ransonware for the data and let them know its
>> stolen in the first place?  Its that like tipping the unsuspecting company,
>> user that something is afoul, especially when they “think” (Notice Think,
>> not Know, or have a clue) that there systems might have been compromised and
>> information could have just gone out there internet pipe without them
>> noticing it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just my 2 thoughts…
>>
>>
>>
>> Z
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Edward Ziots
>>
>> Network Engineer
>>
>> Lifespan Organization
>>
>> MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>>
>> ezi...@lifespan.org
>>
>> Phone:401-639-3505
>>  --
>>
>> *From:* Marc Maiffret [mailto:m...@marcmaiffret.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:28 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Ransomware
>>
>>
>>
>> Another on the list of reasons of why it drives me insane that so many
>> companies still sit around saying the same thing year after year:
>>
>>
>>
>> Why would anyone come after me? I am joe small business in joe small town.
>> I am not wells fargo.
>>
>> I have never had an incident before beyond the normal spyware and such.
>>
>>
>>
>> Questions and comments which are so easily slain as are the servers and
>> workstations of the people whom make them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Two types of people call by company, the ones whom are looking to be
>> proactive and avoid the pain of what a breach can turn into and the ones
>> whom thought like the people above whom now are looking for people to help
>> clean up the mess.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Marc Maiffret
>>
>> www.marcmaiffret.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:
>>
>> Spyware, Malware, Scareware, etc  now we have Ransomware.
>>
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4748
>>
>>
>> Roger Wright
>> ___
>>
>> Sent from Tampa, FL, United States
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Ransomware

[Andrew S. Baker]

I know what you mean, Marc.  :)

*ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
*Providing Competitive Advantage through Effective IT Leadership*


On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Marc Maiffret wrote:

> Another on the list of reasons of why it drives me insane that so many
> companies still sit around saying the same thing year after year:
>
> Why would anyone come after me? I am joe small business in joe small town.
> I am not wells fargo.
> I have never had an incident before beyond the normal spyware and such.
>
> Questions and comments which are so easily slain as are the servers and
> workstations of the people whom make them.
>
> Two types of people call by company, the ones whom are looking to be
> proactive and avoid the pain of what a breach can turn into and the ones
> whom thought like the people above whom now are looking for people to help
> clean up the mess.
>
> -Marc Maiffret
> www.marcmaiffret.com
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:
>
>> Spyware, Malware, Scareware, etc  now we have Ransomware.
>>
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4748
>>
>>
>> Roger Wright
>> ___
>>
>> Sent from Tampa, FL, United States
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Kace KBOX systems

[Tom Miller]

I wonder how it compares to Microsoft's Configuration Manager.  We are
moving from Novell Zenworks to Configuration Manager, and CM, while
feature-rich, has an awful lot of "hands on" work to be done to get it
working and maintained.  That might be nice for big shops for have staff
dedicated to desktop management, but doesn't work here where I only have
maybe 1/4 a day a week to even look at it.  
 
Zenworks was great (easy to use and configure), but much more expensive
than CM.  Now I don't know if it was worth it, considering the
additional time I have to spend on it.
 
Anyone with any other desktop management products, that don't require
lots of hand-holding, care to jump in and comment?
 
 
 
 
 
Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528 

>>> tony patton  10/30/2009 4:09 AM
>>>
They may have rewritten it for the current version, the eval vm is
still on 4. 

Out of ~2800 desktops, only about half of them are 7xx, the rest are
gx-260s, 270s, 280s, 520s, 620s with a few sx280s. 

I created test packages for Reader 714, FireFox 3.5.4 and UltraVNC with
no issues to a testbed of 6 vms. 
We're tied to Reader 7.x.x here due to a compatability issue with later
versions, not sure if it's true or not but that's been the line since
before I started over 2 years ago, and the team that supports the
application will not re-test it. 

Have to say, from what I've seen of it so far, I like it a lot,
definitely beats altiris IMO 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 



From: "Joe Tinney"  To: "NT System Admin Issues"
 Date: 29/10/2009 17:01 Subject:
RE: Kace KBOX systems




Right now, with the agent dormant on my machine, it is taking up 7MB of
memory. The memory usage does jump up there when it is actually doing
stuff, but that shouldn’t be too often. If you did a patch detection
once a week you would still be detecting 4 times more often than patches
are generally released. 
  
You are correct in that you cannot create a Managed Software
Installation for a product that has not yet been detected but it can be
deployed via the Scripting functionality if you needed to get it done. I
wish they would let you give all the details of the software to be
deployed in the case that it hasn’t been installed anywhere yet and
therefore not detected.. 
  
KBOX can update drivers for any product that Dell supports with their
Open Manage platform. I believe that starts at Dell’s Optiplex 7xx
series and greater for desktops and Latitude E5xxx series and greater
for laptops. Servers are in the Open Manage platform, also, so they have
drivers for that. 
  
I have deployed a handful of patches and Adobe Reader 9 as a test. 
  
The Adobe deployment went great but the patching took a while to
execute. It was over a WAN and also on some old Dell Dimension desktops
so I was going more for success than speed on those tests. 
  
I have been into Reporting but I haven’t had a real cause to report on
anything yet so I’ve just used the standard reports. 
  
From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Kace KBOX systems 
  
I installed the eval vm last night, found it pretty good, but it's the
previous version.
Noticed the agent was a bit heavy at ~20mb, other than that I liked
it.
Found it a bit strange that you couldn't add software for distribution
until it had been installed on a PC and picked up in the inventory.

We would be looking at it for inventory, patch management and software
distribution mainly.

We're also evaluating Symantec Altiris Management Console as we're a
dell shop and it allows us to control the hardware, but it's not very
intuitive and it's slower than an elephant in a tarpit. 

Have you played much yet with deploying apps/patches or the reporting
aspect of it?

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com


From:"Joe Tinney" To:"NT System Admin Issues"
Date:29/10/2009 13:33Subject:RE:
Kace KBOX systems

  




We just bought the Virtual KBOX 1100 and are currently going through
their training and implementation. Anything specific you are looking
for? 
So far, everything is working as advertised and it hasn’t ruined the 11
machines I have the agent on. 
 
I’m pleased with it so far.
 
From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Kace KBOX systems
 
Morning all,

Anyone here have any experience with Kace?

In particular their Kbox 1100 Sysmtems Management Appliances.
http://www.kace.com/products/systems-management-appliance/index.php

All comments appreciated.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com
==

RE: Ransomware

[Erik Goldoff]

a LOT of it comes back to budget ... the decision makers are loathe to
include budget for *anything* that does not generate revenue, and work
towards reducing fixed overhead costs.
 

Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

 

  _  

From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:m...@marcmaiffret.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Ransomware


Another on the list of reasons of why it drives me insane that so many
companies still sit around saying the same thing year after year:
 
Why would anyone come after me? I am joe small business in joe small town. I
am not wells fargo.
I have never had an incident before beyond the normal spyware and such.
 
Questions and comments which are so easily slain as are the servers and
workstations of the people whom make them.
 
Two types of people call by company, the ones whom are looking to be
proactive and avoid the pain of what a breach can turn into and the ones
whom thought like the people above whom now are looking for people to help
clean up the mess.
 
-Marc Maiffret
www.marcmaiffret.com  
 
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:


Spyware, Malware, Scareware, etc  now we have Ransomware.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4748


Roger Wright
___

Sent from Tampa, FL, United States


 



 






 


 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Ransomware

[Jon Harris]

I agree but will point out that many state level organizations (small
agencies or offices) have poor to little in the way of backups.  I suspect
many small or medium size companies are the same way.  If the data was
valuable, as a sellable resource, it would have a small market.  On the
other hand the data or loss of said data could destroy these same people but
would fetch some money if it was still in place but just not available.
People may not have saleable resources but may be willing to redeem their
lost data for some money.

Jon

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:56 AM,  wrote:

> Ransomware works because you know one party that definitively has a high
> value on the data you have obtained.
>
> A 3rd party will probably not place such a high value on the same data, or
> you'd have to obtain more of it to get similar value.
>
> It all depends on the org and the type of data and the goals of the
> intruder.
>
> Andrew S. Baker (ASB)
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> --
> *From: *"Ziots, Edward" 
> *Date: *Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:41:20 -0400
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject: *RE: Ransomware
>
>  I think a lot of companies, don’t consider this a big enough risk, or it
> doesn’t come up on there radar, until they get hit, and are in reactive
> mode, and the ohh crap button has been pushed.  I still think that convert
> attacks are still the preferred method of information leakage and retrieval,
> just from a hacking prespective, if I can penetrate your systems and siphon
> off the juicy info I want, without you even knowing, then I can use your
> data (crown jewels, because its all about the data) to sell to the highest
> bidder.
>
>
>
> Why even go the route of ransonware for the data and let them know its
> stolen in the first place?  Its that like tipping the unsuspecting company,
> user that something is afoul, especially when they “think” (Notice Think,
> not Know, or have a clue) that there systems might have been compromised and
> information could have just gone out there internet pipe without them
> noticing it.
>
>
>
> Just my 2 thoughts…
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
>
>
> Edward Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
> ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Phone:401-639-3505
>  --
>
> *From:* Marc Maiffret [mailto:m...@marcmaiffret.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:28 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Ransomware
>
>
>
> Another on the list of reasons of why it drives me insane that so many
> companies still sit around saying the same thing year after year:
>
>
>
> Why would anyone come after me? I am joe small business in joe small town.
> I am not wells fargo.
>
> I have never had an incident before beyond the normal spyware and such.
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> Two types of people call by company, the ones whom are looking to be
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> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4748
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Re: Ransomware

[asbzone]

Ransomware works because you know one party that definitively has a high value 
on the data you have obtained. 

A 3rd party will probably not place such a high value on the same data, or 
you'd have to obtain more of it to get similar value. 

It all depends on the org and the type of data and the goals of the intruder. 

Andrew S. Baker (ASB) 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Ziots, Edward" 
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:41:20 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Ransomware

I think a lot of companies, don't consider this a big enough risk, or it
doesn't come up on there radar, until they get hit, and are in reactive
mode, and the ohh crap button has been pushed.  I still think that
convert attacks are still the preferred method of information leakage
and retrieval, just from a hacking prespective, if I can penetrate your
systems and siphon off the juicy info I want, without you even knowing,
then I can use your data (crown jewels, because its all about the data)
to sell to the highest bidder. 

 

Why even go the route of ransonware for the data and let them know its
stolen in the first place?  Its that like tipping the unsuspecting
company, user that something is afoul, especially when they "think"
(Notice Think, not Know, or have a clue) that there systems might have
been compromised and information could have just gone out there internet
pipe without them noticing it. 

 

Just my 2 thoughts...

 

Z

 

 

Edward Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone:401-639-3505



From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:m...@marcmaiffret.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Ransomware

 

Another on the list of reasons of why it drives me insane that so many
companies still sit around saying the same thing year after year:

 

Why would anyone come after me? I am joe small business in joe small
town. I am not wells fargo.

I have never had an incident before beyond the normal spyware and such.

 

Questions and comments which are so easily slain as are the servers and
workstations of the people whom make them.

 

Two types of people call by company, the ones whom are looking to be
proactive and avoid the pain of what a breach can turn into and the ones
whom thought like the people above whom now are looking for people to
help clean up the mess.

 

-Marc Maiffret

www.marcmaiffret.com  

 

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:

Spyware, Malware, Scareware, etc  now we have Ransomware.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4748


Roger Wright
___

Sent from Tampa, FL, United States

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Ransomware

[Ziots, Edward]

I think a lot of companies, don't consider this a big enough risk, or it
doesn't come up on there radar, until they get hit, and are in reactive
mode, and the ohh crap button has been pushed.  I still think that
convert attacks are still the preferred method of information leakage
and retrieval, just from a hacking prespective, if I can penetrate your
systems and siphon off the juicy info I want, without you even knowing,
then I can use your data (crown jewels, because its all about the data)
to sell to the highest bidder. 

 

Why even go the route of ransonware for the data and let them know its
stolen in the first place?  Its that like tipping the unsuspecting
company, user that something is afoul, especially when they "think"
(Notice Think, not Know, or have a clue) that there systems might have
been compromised and information could have just gone out there internet
pipe without them noticing it. 

 

Just my 2 thoughts...

 

Z

 

 

Edward Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone:401-639-3505



From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:m...@marcmaiffret.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Ransomware

 

Another on the list of reasons of why it drives me insane that so many
companies still sit around saying the same thing year after year:

 

Why would anyone come after me? I am joe small business in joe small
town. I am not wells fargo.

I have never had an incident before beyond the normal spyware and such.

 

Questions and comments which are so easily slain as are the servers and
workstations of the people whom make them.

 

Two types of people call by company, the ones whom are looking to be
proactive and avoid the pain of what a breach can turn into and the ones
whom thought like the people above whom now are looking for people to
help clean up the mess.

 

-Marc Maiffret

www.marcmaiffret.com  

 

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:

Spyware, Malware, Scareware, etc  now we have Ransomware.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4748


Roger Wright
___

Sent from Tampa, FL, United States

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Kace KBOX systems

[tony patton]

They may have rewritten it for the current version, the eval vm is still 
on 4.

Out of ~2800 desktops, only about half of them are 7xx, the rest are 
gx-260s, 270s, 280s, 520s, 620s with a few sx280s.

I created test packages for Reader 714, FireFox 3.5.4 and UltraVNC with no 
issues to a testbed of 6 vms.
We're tied to Reader 7.x.x here due to a compatability issue with later 
versions, not sure if it's true or not but that's been the line since 
before I started over 2 years ago, and the team that supports the 
application will not re-test it.

Have to say, from what I've seen of it so far, I like it a lot, definitely 
beats altiris IMO

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:
"Joe Tinney" 
To:
"NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:
29/10/2009 17:01
Subject:
RE: Kace KBOX systems



Right now, with the agent dormant on my machine, it is taking up 7MB of 
memory. The memory usage does jump up there when it is actually doing 
stuff, but that shouldn?t be too often. If you did a patch detection once 
a week you would still be detecting 4 times more often than patches are 
generally released.
 
You are correct in that you cannot create a Managed Software Installation 
for a product that has not yet been detected but it can be deployed via 
the Scripting functionality if you needed to get it done. I wish they 
would let you give all the details of the software to be deployed in the 
case that it hasn?t been installed anywhere yet and therefore not 
detected..
 
KBOX can update drivers for any product that Dell supports with their Open 
Manage platform. I believe that starts at Dell?s Optiplex 7xx series and 
greater for desktops and Latitude E5xxx series and greater for laptops. 
Servers are in the Open Manage platform, also, so they have drivers for 
that.
 
I have deployed a handful of patches and Adobe Reader 9 as a test. 
 
The Adobe deployment went great but the patching took a while to execute. 
It was over a WAN and also on some old Dell Dimension desktops so I was 
going more for success than speed on those tests.
 
I have been into Reporting but I haven?t had a real cause to report on 
anything yet so I?ve just used the standard reports.
 
From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Kace KBOX systems
 
I installed the eval vm last night, found it pretty good, but it's the 
previous version. 
Noticed the agent was a bit heavy at ~20mb, other than that I liked it. 
Found it a bit strange that you couldn't add software for distribution 
until it had been installed on a PC and picked up in the inventory. 

We would be looking at it for inventory, patch management and software 
distribution mainly. 

We're also evaluating Symantec Altiris Management Console as we're a dell 
shop and it allows us to control the hardware, but it's not very intuitive 
and it's slower than an elephant in a tarpit. 

Have you played much yet with deploying apps/patches or the reporting 
aspect of it? 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 


From: 
"Joe Tinney"  
To: 
"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date: 
29/10/2009 13:33 
Subject: 
RE: Kace KBOX systems
 




We just bought the Virtual KBOX 1100 and are currently going through their 
training and implementation. Anything specific you are looking for? 
So far, everything is working as advertised and it hasn?t ruined the 11 
machines I have the agent on. 
  
I?m pleased with it so far. 
  
From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Kace KBOX systems 
  
Morning all, 

Anyone here have any experience with Kace? 

In particular their Kbox 1100 Sysmtems Management Appliances. 
http://www.kace.com/products/systems-management-appliance/index.php 

All comments appreciated. 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 
 
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RE: Kace KBOX systems

[tony patton]

We're a complete WinDell shop still on XP SP3, so the Mac/Nix aspect 
doesn't really matter here.

Just looking for a general idea of how good it is from a software 
distribution/patch management/inventory point of view.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:
"Jimmy Tran" 
To:
"NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:
29/10/2009 15:55
Subject:
RE: Kace KBOX systems



I use that on my network here.  It has its pro?s and con?s.  It?s Windows 
support is great.  My Macs here haven?t worked very well with KBOX.  Their 
patching has improved but I?m still having some issues with Macs.  Is 
there anything specific you want to know?
 
Jimmy
 
From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Kace KBOX systems
 
Morning all, 

Anyone here have any experience with Kace? 

In particular their Kbox 1100 Sysmtems Management Appliances. 
http://www.kace.com/products/systems-management-appliance/index.php 

All comments appreciated. 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com

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