Re: Dell Just Bought Kace
Just received word on Friday that we will not be getting the kbox. Not a happy camper. They had even dropped down to more or less half price. But the IT manager still wouldn't sign off on it. Just 1 more reason to take the redundancy and get out of here. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com From: Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 22/05/2010 15:11 Subject:Re: Dell Just Bought Kace Old thread, I know. I purchased a KBOX a few weeks ago; it is replacing Microsoft Configuration Manager here. Yes, you can customize installs. Just use your install builder/packager like you would otherwise. Or you can use scripting for that. It's very easy to use. I like patching, too. It includes MS updates, Abode updates, and some A/V vendor updates. Now that Dell owns it I expect Dell to put some serious $$$ dollars into it, and it will just get better. Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com 2/17/2010 5:20 PM Discussion warranted, I presume. Can you customise software installs? In particular, I'd like to customise FF and Adobe Reader installs - turn of javascript in Reader, and add in NTLM auth and a few other things that we do manually here with FF. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration), unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Its head office is at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: limited logon script??
No it doesn't work that way. You can log on from many places and link to the same share without any problem, unless you configure the share to allow only one connection. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:21 PM, David McSpadden dav...@imcu.com wrote: Is this all I really need to do? Create silent usershare on server. Add this to top of logon.bat? echo on net use x: \\10.0.50.205\%username%$ if errorlevel 1 goto :logoff goto :continue :logoff call MSG.exe %username% The user %username% is already logged into the network somewhere else. Please log off that workstation before trying to log into the network again. logoff.exe :continue setx logdrive X: setx logpath X:\ “Please consider the environment before printing this email.” ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.gif
RE: limited logon script??
There used to be a resource-kit utility called cconnect.exe. Note the intentional misspelling. Google it. Also see kb 237282. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Rene de Haas [mailto:rene.deh...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: limited logon script?? No it doesn't work that way. You can log on from many places and link to the same share without any problem, unless you configure the share to allow only one connection. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:21 PM, David McSpadden dav...@imcu.commailto:dav...@imcu.com wrote: Is this all I really need to do? Create silent usershare on server. Add this to top of logon.bat? echo on net use x: \\10.0.50.205\%username%$file:///\\10.0.50.205\%25username%25$ if errorlevel 1 goto :logoff goto :continue :logoff call MSG.exe %username% The user %username% is already logged into the network somewhere else. Please log off that workstation before trying to log into the network again. logoff.exe :continue setx logdrive X: setx logpath X:\ Please consider the environment before printing this email. [cid:image001.gif@01CAFB0C.96C2D250] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~inline: image001.gif
Re: limited logon script??
I would probably do the following: In logon script check to see if file exists, i.e. x:\logon.txt if it doesn't, continue login if it does, do logout message and logout. In logoff script delete x:\logon.txt No very foolproof as the user could just delete the file and logon somewhere else. Just a quick solution off the top of my head. If you wanted to get really fancy, you could probably use a script to modify the Logon On To properties in the login script with the name of the current workstation, and clear it on logout. There is probably a better way that someone else will think of. These are for the first option: Login script 8-- @echo off net use x: \\10.0.50.205\%username%$ if exist x:\logon.txt ( goto logoff ) else ( goto continue ) goto continue :logoff call MSG.exe %username% The user %username% is already logged into the network somewhere else. Please log off that workstation before trying to log into the network again. logoff.exe :continue setx logdrive X: setx logpath X:\ 8-- Logoff script 8-- if exist x:\logon.txt del x:\logon.txt 8-- Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com From: Rene de Haas rene.deh...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 24/05/2010 11:38 Subject:Re: limited logon script?? No it doesn't work that way. You can log on from many places and link to the same share without any problem, unless you configure the share to allow only one connection. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:21 PM, David McSpadden dav...@imcu.com wrote: Is this all I really need to do? Create silent usershare on server. Add this to top of logon.bat? echo on net use x: \\10.0.50.205\%username%$ if errorlevel 1 goto :logoff goto :continue :logoff call MSG.exe %username% The user %username% is already logged into the network somewhere else. Please log off that workstation before trying to log into the network again. logoff.exe :continue setx logdrive X: setx logpath X:\ ?Please consider the environment before printing this email.? This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration), unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Its head office is at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image/gif
RE: Help w/Juniper firewall
+1 FWIW, I always enable logging on a new rule, and *then* decide to turn It off later after the rule base has a chance to ‘soak’ and prove no problems. Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 7:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Help w/Juniper firewall That logging checkbox is important too. You’ll want to use that data to figure out a) what you’ve broken and b) who’s creating the havoc. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c – 312.731.3132 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Dell Just Bought Kace
That's a major bummer. I've found it's more expensive than Microsoft's CM (who can match Microsoft's great non-profit/charity pricing anyway?), but the savings is more than made up for it in man-hours. If it's not too late, I can send you e-mails from KBOX customers that responded to my inquiries before my purchase. Let me know off-line. Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 tony patton tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 5/24/2010 5:34 AM Just received word on Friday that we will not be getting the kbox. Not a happy camper. They had even dropped down to more or less half price. But the IT manager still wouldn't sign off on it. Just 1 more reason to take the redundancy and get out of here. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com From:Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:22/05/2010 15:11 Subject:Re: Dell Just Bought Kace Old thread, I know. I purchased a KBOX a few weeks ago; it is replacing Microsoft Configuration Manager here. Yes, you can customize installs. Just use your install builder/packager like you would otherwise. Or you can use scripting for that. It's very easy to use. I like patching, too. It includes MS updates, Abode updates, and some A/V vendor updates. Now that Dell owns it I expect Dell to put some serious $$$ dollars into it, and it will just get better. Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com 2/17/2010 5:20 PM Discussion warranted, I presume. Can you customise software installs? In particular, I'd like to customise FF and Adobe Reader installs - turn of javascript in Reader, and add in NTLM auth and a few other things that we do manually here with FF. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration), unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Its head office is at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: limited logon script??
Thanks Rene, Everything but the Call works. It doesn't wait on the click of the ok button so I could just execute it without the call I guess. _ From: Rene de Haas [mailto:rene.deh...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: limited logon script?? No it doesn't work that way. You can log on from many places and link to the same share without any problem, unless you configure the share to allow only one connection. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:21 PM, David McSpadden dav...@imcu.com wrote: Is this all I really need to do? Create silent usershare on server. Add this to top of logon.bat? echo on net use x: \\10.0.50.205\%username%$ if errorlevel 1 goto :logoff goto :continue :logoff call MSG.exe %username% The user %username% is already logged into the network somewhere else. Please log off that workstation before trying to log into the network again. logoff.exe :continue setx logdrive X: setx logpath X:\ Please consider the environment before printing this email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.gif
RE: Dell Just Bought Kace
Tom.I'd be interested in those, too. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Just Bought Kace That's a major bummer. I've found it's more expensive than Microsoft's CM (who can match Microsoft's great non-profit/charity pricing anyway?), but the savings is more than made up for it in man-hours. If it's not too late, I can send you e-mails from KBOX customers that responded to my inquiries before my purchase. Let me know off-line. Tom Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 tony patton tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 5/24/2010 5:34 AM Just received word on Friday that we will not be getting the kbox. Not a happy camper. They had even dropped down to more or less half price. But the IT manager still wouldn't sign off on it. Just 1 more reason to take the redundancy and get out of here. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com From:Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:22/05/2010 15:11 Subject:Re: Dell Just Bought Kace _ Old thread, I know. I purchased a KBOX a few weeks ago; it is replacing Microsoft Configuration Manager here. Yes, you can customize installs. Just use your install builder/packager like you would otherwise. Or you can use scripting for that. It's very easy to use. I like patching, too. It includes MS updates, Abode updates, and some A/V vendor updates. Now that Dell owns it I expect Dell to put some serious $$$ dollars into it, and it will just get better. Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com 2/17/2010 5:20 PM Discussion warranted, I presume. Can you customise software installs? In particular, I'd like to customise FF and Adobe Reader installs - turn of javascript in Reader, and add in NTLM auth and a few other things that we do manually here with FF. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration), unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Its head office is at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Server 2003 becomes unresponsive when USB drive is connected
The start of faulty drives? Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com From: Lewis Johnson le...@iowabusinessmachines.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 21/05/2010 19:59 Subject:RE: Server 2003 becomes unresponsive when USB drive is connected I have updated the BIOS to the most recent revision. As I mentioned in an earlier reply, these drives were working with this server for several years until recently. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration), unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Its head office is at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Semi OT: Rails question...
That seems to be the plan for the moment. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 05:21, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: Can you mount some type of shelf and just set the servers on those? From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 5:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Semi OT: Rails question... I may have mentioned this some time ago, but I bought about 2 months ago a set of three Dell 1950 servers. I got an equipment cart that doubles as a short 4-post rack for free with the Dells - about 1/4 rack tall. This whole lashup is for my personal use - a lab for learning. However the depth of the rack on the cart is only about 25 inches, and the depth of the 1950s is about 30 inches, so the Versa rails I got on eBay won't work. Worse, the posts are in a U configuration so that even it the depth was correct they wouldn't work. Anyone have a solution? Below is picture of one post to illustrate the problem: Thanks for any help, Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Server 2003 becomes unresponsive when USB drive is connected
The customer has multiple drives of the same type and the behavior occurs when any of them are connected to the server. I also verified it will happen with some brand new drives they recently purchased for use with a different server. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT, vintage memories
A well-done TD can get significantly better, even for larger vehicles. -sc From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 8:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT, vintage memories Thats pretty good. I get about the same mileage in my sport trac and it only ways weighs 4700 and I keep the engine in good shape. y 20, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: What diesel are you driving that gets 11? My near 8000lbs Ford F-350 QuadCab Longbed diesel got ~18/22. -sc From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com ] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT, vintage memories Ugh...I'm paying $3.57/gal for diesel. Hurray for 11mpg! /sarcasm - Sean On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Yeah... I remember about 2/3 of those... including Drive-In movie theaters, Brownie Hawkeye cameras, flashbulbs, flash cubes, Wolfman Jack, Jiffy Pop (still around, but darned hard to find!) and a few other things. I remember as a kid gas going up to a whopping 50¢ a gallon or something and thinking that was high, then watching as I was about to start driving, gas got up to, gasp, almost a whole dollar a gallon. Never figured it would reach almost $3/gallon (or more in some areas!) From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com mailto:b...@btrfronk.com ] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I had a 1976 TransAm that I pulled out the unleaded plug in the fill neck and removed the catalytic converter so I could use leaded because it was cheaper for a poor High School student. From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com mailto:gol...@markettools.com ] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Even better was when they we're phasing out Regular gas. I had a 1970 Firebird and remember paying $.40-45 per gallon for my Junior year in High School. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com mailto:b...@btrfronk.com ] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Yep.. Remember all of it. Except gas was about $0.75 when I started driving. WARNING: The information in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the named addressee, you must not use, copy or disclose this email (including any attachments) or the information in it save to the named addressee nor take any action in reliance on it. If you receive this email or any attachments in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete the same and any copies. CLS Services Ltd × Registered in England No 4132704 × Registered Office: Exchange Tower × One Harbour Exchange Square × London E14 9GE This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration), unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Its head office is at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and
RE: OT, vintage memories
There was a coffee-table book I saw once that was photography of dilapidated drive-ins across the country... was sad. -sc From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories They are just now finally shutting down the local Puget Park drive-in theater that we have hung onto forever. Sad to see it go, but it's been a prime piece of real estate, even in these times. I think there are only a few left in the state now. From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I must be living in a time warp. Our small town still has a drive in theater. http://www.moonlitetheatre.com/ I've also gotten fingers/arms caught in one of those wringer washing machines that mom used when I was a youngin. Got caught sneakin out of it once many moons ago. From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Yeah... I remember about 2/3 of those... including Drive-In movie theaters, Brownie Hawkeye cameras, flashbulbs, flash cubes, Wolfman Jack, Jiffy Pop (still around, but darned hard to find!) and a few other things. I remember as a kid gas going up to a whopping 50¢ a gallon or something and thinking that was high, then watching as I was about to start driving, gas got up to, gasp, almost a whole dollar a gallon. Never figured it would reach almost $3/gallon (or more in some areas!) From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I had a 1976 TransAm that I pulled out the unleaded plug in the fill neck and removed the catalytic converter so I could use leaded because it was cheaper for a poor High School student. From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Even better was when they we're phasing out Regular gas. I had a 1970 Firebird and remember paying $.40-45 per gallon for my Junior year in High School. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Yep.. Remember all of it. Except gas was about $0.75 when I started driving. From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT, vintage memories For those of us who are vintage, a fun link http://www.webmarketing101.com/memory_lane.htm ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: OT, vintage memories
Make/model/mods? -sc From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I get about 12-14 in my Jeep. Fun as hell vehicle though! :-) Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Wow... seems low. Nice rig tho! -sc From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT, vintage memories 2008 GMC Sierra 3500 HD Quad Cab Dually - 6.6l Duramax. I've been told to chalk it up to the new DPF and other emissions equipment. I've also been told it should increase by 5-6 mpg once I hit between 20-30k miles. I just rolled over 20k so we'll see - Sean On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: What diesel are you driving that gets 11? My near 8000lbs Ford F-350 QuadCab Longbed diesel got ~18/22. -sc From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT, vintage memories Ugh...I'm paying $3.57/gal for diesel. Hurray for 11mpg! /sarcasm - Sean On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Yeah... I remember about 2/3 of those... including Drive-In movie theaters, Brownie Hawkeye cameras, flashbulbs, flash cubes, Wolfman Jack, Jiffy Pop (still around, but darned hard to find!) and a few other things. I remember as a kid gas going up to a whopping 50¢ a gallon or something and thinking that was high, then watching as I was about to start driving, gas got up to, gasp, almost a whole dollar a gallon. Never figured it would reach almost $3/gallon (or more in some areas!) From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I had a 1976 TransAm that I pulled out the unleaded plug in the fill neck and removed the catalytic converter so I could use leaded because it was cheaper for a poor High School student. From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Even better was when they we're phasing out Regular gas. I had a 1970 Firebird and remember paying $.40-45 per gallon for my Junior year in High School. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Yep.. Remember all of it. Except gas was about $0.75 when I started driving. From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT, vintage memories For those of us who are vintage, a fun link http://www.webmarketing101.com/memory_lane.htm ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
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Ah cool. Those are great tow rigs. I had a 37' trailer as well... chipped the rig and it towed like a dream... and dropped only a couple of MPG. Torque curve is where it's at. Talked with a guy who had the 460 in his Ford tow rig. Got 4-6MPG. Poor guy... -sc From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT, vintage memories Thanks. The only good news is that the MPG doesn't get much worse when I'm towing my 38ft 5th wheel. - Sean On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Wow... seems low. Nice rig tho! -sc From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT, vintage memories 2008 GMC Sierra 3500 HD Quad Cab Dually - 6.6l Duramax. I've been told to chalk it up to the new DPF and other emissions equipment. I've also been told it should increase by 5-6 mpg once I hit between 20-30k miles. I just rolled over 20k so we'll see - Sean On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: What diesel are you driving that gets 11? My near 8000lbs Ford F-350 QuadCab Longbed diesel got ~18/22. -sc From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT, vintage memories Ugh...I'm paying $3.57/gal for diesel. Hurray for 11mpg! /sarcasm - Sean On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Yeah... I remember about 2/3 of those... including Drive-In movie theaters, Brownie Hawkeye cameras, flashbulbs, flash cubes, Wolfman Jack, Jiffy Pop (still around, but darned hard to find!) and a few other things. I remember as a kid gas going up to a whopping 50¢ a gallon or something and thinking that was high, then watching as I was about to start driving, gas got up to, gasp, almost a whole dollar a gallon. Never figured it would reach almost $3/gallon (or more in some areas!) From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I had a 1976 TransAm that I pulled out the unleaded plug in the fill neck and removed the catalytic converter so I could use leaded because it was cheaper for a poor High School student. From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Even better was when they we're phasing out Regular gas. I had a 1970 Firebird and remember paying $.40-45 per gallon for my Junior year in High School. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Yep.. Remember all of it. Except gas was about $0.75 when I started driving. From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT, vintage memories For those of us who are vintage, a fun link http://www.webmarketing101.com/memory_lane.htm ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: OT, vintage memories
2005 Wrangler Rubicon, way too many mods to list. I'll send you my Photobucket link offlist, so you can see what I mean about it being fun. J Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Make/model/mods? -sc From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I get about 12-14 in my Jeep. Fun as hell vehicle though! J Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Wow... seems low. Nice rig tho! -sc From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT, vintage memories 2008 GMC Sierra 3500 HD Quad Cab Dually - 6.6l Duramax. I've been told to chalk it up to the new DPF and other emissions equipment. I've also been told it should increase by 5-6 mpg once I hit between 20-30k miles. I just rolled over 20k so we'll see - Sean On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: What diesel are you driving that gets 11? My near 8000lbs Ford F-350 QuadCab Longbed diesel got ~18/22. -sc From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT, vintage memories Ugh...I'm paying $3.57/gal for diesel. Hurray for 11mpg! /sarcasm - Sean On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:16 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Yeah... I remember about 2/3 of those... including Drive-In movie theaters, Brownie Hawkeye cameras, flashbulbs, flash cubes, Wolfman Jack, Jiffy Pop (still around, but darned hard to find!) and a few other things. I remember as a kid gas going up to a whopping 50¢ a gallon or something and thinking that was high, then watching as I was about to start driving, gas got up to, gasp, almost a whole dollar a gallon. Never figured it would reach almost $3/gallon (or more in some areas!) From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I had a 1976 TransAm that I pulled out the unleaded plug in the fill neck and removed the catalytic converter so I could use leaded because it was cheaper for a poor High School student. From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Even better was when they we're phasing out Regular gas. I had a 1970 Firebird and remember paying $.40-45 per gallon for my Junior year in High School. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Yep.. Remember all of it. Except gas was about $0.75 when I started driving. From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT, vintage memories For those of us who are vintage, a fun link http://www.webmarketing101.com/memory_lane.htm ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: OT, vintage memories
Yes, sad. However, there are still plenty that are in use! http://www.drive-ins.com/theater/open I've got one within 30-45 minutes of my house. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.comBLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.comBLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/ From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories There was a coffee-table book I saw once that was photography of dilapidated drive-ins across the country... was sad. -sc From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories They are just now finally shutting down the local Puget Park drive-in theater that we have hung onto forever. Sad to see it go, but it's been a prime piece of real estate, even in these times. I think there are only a few left in the state now. From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I must be living in a time warp. Our small town still has a drive in theater. http://www.moonlitetheatre.com/ I've also gotten fingers/arms caught in one of those wringer washing machines that mom used when I was a youngin. Got caught sneakin out of it once many moons ago. From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Yeah... I remember about 2/3 of those... including Drive-In movie theaters, Brownie Hawkeye cameras, flashbulbs, flash cubes, Wolfman Jack, Jiffy Pop (still around, but darned hard to find!) and a few other things. I remember as a kid gas going up to a whopping 50¢ a gallon or something and thinking that was high, then watching as I was about to start driving, gas got up to, gasp, almost a whole dollar a gallon. Never figured it would reach almost $3/gallon (or more in some areas!) [cid:image001.jpg@01CAFB47.900C85B0][cid:image002@01cafb47.900c85b0] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I had a 1976 TransAm that I pulled out the unleaded plug in the fill neck and removed the catalytic converter so I could use leaded because it was cheaper for a poor High School student. From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Even better was when they we're phasing out Regular gas. I had a 1970 Firebird and remember paying $.40-45 per gallon for my Junior year in High School. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Yep.. Remember all of it. Except gas was about $0.75 when I started driving. From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT, vintage memories For those of us who are vintage, a fun link http://www.webmarketing101.com/memory_lane.htm Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~inline: image001.jpginline: image002.jpg
Internal routing
Has anyone seen an issue where you can route to an internal web site by https but not http? nslookup resolves correctly, IIS is running fine, site is accessible externally with no issue. I can not see where access to port 80 is different than access over 443. If you only use http it times out. I will note that there are several sites hosted on that same IIS server. All of them are doing the same thing. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT, vintage memories
We still have one that I know of here in Sacramento. Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 5/24/2010 9:44 AM There was a coffee-table book I saw once that was photography of dilapidated drive-ins across the country... was sad. -sc From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories They are just now finally shutting down the local Puget Park drive-in theater that we have hung onto forever. Sad to see it go, but it's been a prime piece of real estate, even in these times. I think there are only a few left in the state now. From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I must be living in a time warp. Our small town still has a drive in theater. http://www.moonlitetheatre.com/ I've also gotten fingers/arms caught in one of those wringer washing machines that mom used when I was a youngin. Got caught sneakin out of it once many moons ago. From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Yeah... I remember about 2/3 of those... including Drive-In movie theaters, Brownie Hawkeye cameras, flashbulbs, flash cubes, Wolfman Jack, Jiffy Pop (still around, but darned hard to find!) and a few other things. I remember as a kid gas going up to a whopping 50¢ a gallon or something and thinking that was high, then watching as I was about to start driving, gas got up to, gasp, almost a whole dollar a gallon. Never figured it would reach almost $3/gallon (or more in some areas!) From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I had a 1976 TransAm that I pulled out the unleaded plug in the fill neck and removed the catalytic converter so I could use leaded because it was cheaper for a poor High School student. From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Even better was when they we're phasing out Regular gas. I had a 1970 Firebird and remember paying $.40-45 per gallon for my Junior year in High School. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Yep.. Remember all of it. Except gas was about $0.75 when I started driving. From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT, vintage memories For those of us who are vintage, a fun link http://www.webmarketing101.com/memory_lane.htm ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT, vintage memories
Even better was the Adult drive in that was around when I was a teenager. It was off the beaten path, but a perfect place for us teenager's to go and watch the scenery. Most hilarious thing ever was when a friend of mine spotted his parents car there, rocking and rolling. To this day we still give him crap about it. -G -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories We still have one that I know of here in Sacramento. Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 5/24/2010 9:44 AM There was a coffee-table book I saw once that was photography of dilapidated drive-ins across the country... was sad. -sc From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories They are just now finally shutting down the local Puget Park drive-in theater that we have hung onto forever. Sad to see it go, but it's been a prime piece of real estate, even in these times. I think there are only a few left in the state now. From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I must be living in a time warp. Our small town still has a drive in theater. http://www.moonlitetheatre.com/ I've also gotten fingers/arms caught in one of those wringer washing machines that mom used when I was a youngin. Got caught sneakin out of it once many moons ago. From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Yeah... I remember about 2/3 of those... including Drive-In movie theaters, Brownie Hawkeye cameras, flashbulbs, flash cubes, Wolfman Jack, Jiffy Pop (still around, but darned hard to find!) and a few other things. I remember as a kid gas going up to a whopping 50¢ a gallon or something and thinking that was high, then watching as I was about to start driving, gas got up to, gasp, almost a whole dollar a gallon. Never figured it would reach almost $3/gallon (or more in some areas!) From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I had a 1976 TransAm that I pulled out the unleaded plug in the fill neck and removed the catalytic converter so I could use leaded because it was cheaper for a poor High School student. From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Even better was when they we're phasing out Regular gas. I had a 1970 Firebird and remember paying $.40-45 per gallon for my Junior year in High School. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Yep.. Remember all of it. Except gas was about $0.75 when I started driving. From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT, vintage memories For those of us who are vintage, a fun link http://www.webmarketing101.com/memory_lane.htm ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT, vintage memories
Nice! I see there are 7 that are open in Washington, including 2 within 50 miles of where I live. I'll have to check those out... On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:46, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Yes, sad. However, there are still plenty that are in use! http://www.drive-ins.com/theater/open I’ve got one within 30-45 minutes of my house. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories There was a coffee-table book I saw once that was photography of dilapidated drive-ins across the country… was sad. -sc From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories They are just now finally shutting down the local Puget Park drive-in theater that we have hung onto forever. Sad to see it go, but it’s been a prime piece of real estate, even in these times. I think there are only a few left in the state now. From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I must be living in a time warp. Our small town still has a drive in theater. http://www.moonlitetheatre.com/ I’ve also gotten fingers/arms caught in one of those wringer washing machines that mom used when I was a youngin. Got caught sneakin “out” of it once many moons ago. From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Yeah… I remember about 2/3 of those… including Drive-In movie theaters, Brownie Hawkeye cameras, flashbulbs, flash cubes, Wolfman Jack, Jiffy Pop (still around, but darned hard to find!) and a few other things. I remember as a kid gas going up to a whopping 50¢ a gallon or something and thinking that was high, then watching as I was about to start driving, gas got up to, gasp, almost a whole dollar a gallon. Never figured it would reach almost $3/gallon (or more in some areas!) From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I had a 1976 TransAm that I pulled out the unleaded plug in the fill neck and removed the catalytic converter so I could use leaded because it was cheaper for a poor High School student. From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Even better was when they we’re phasing out Regular gas. I had a 1970 Firebird and remember paying $.40-45 per gallon for my Junior year in High School. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Yep.. Remember all of it. Except gas was about $0.75 when I started driving. From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT, vintage memories For those of us who are “vintage”, a fun link http://www.webmarketing101.com/memory_lane.htm Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally,
RE: Server 2003 becomes unresponsive when USB drive is connected
I didn't see you mention it but... have you tried plugging the Drives into another machine? If you can - try runing some utilities on the drives too check for file corruption (maybe even try a chkdsk /F if possible - can't hurt to try). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT, vintage memories
We have this one in Atlanta. It is great. http://www.starlightdrivein.com/ Bill Kurt Buff wrote: Nice! I see there are 7 that are open in Washington, including 2 within 50 miles of where I live. I'll have to check those out... On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:46, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: Yes, sad. However, there are still plenty that are in use! http://www.drive-ins.com/theater/open I’ve got one within 30-45 minutes of my house. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories There was a coffee-table book I saw once that was photography of dilapidated drive-ins across the country… was sad. -sc From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories They are just now finally shutting down the local Puget Park drive-in theater that we have hung onto forever. Sad to see it go, but it’s been a prime piece of real estate, even in these times. I think there are only a few left in the state now. From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I must be living in a time warp. Our small town still has a drive in theater. http://www.moonlitetheatre.com/ I’ve also gotten fingers/arms caught in one of those wringer washing machines that mom used when I was a youngin. Got caught sneakin “out” of it once many moons ago. From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Yeah… I remember about 2/3 of those… including Drive-In movie theaters, Brownie Hawkeye cameras, flashbulbs, flash cubes, Wolfman Jack, Jiffy Pop (still around, but darned hard to find!) and a few other things. I remember as a kid gas going up to a whopping 50¢ a gallon or something and thinking that was high, then watching as I was about to start driving, gas got up to, gasp, almost a whole dollar a gallon. Never figured it would reach almost $3/gallon (or more in some areas!) From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories I had a 1976 TransAm that I pulled out the unleaded plug in the fill neck and removed the catalytic converter so I could use leaded because it was cheaper for a poor High School student. From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Even better was when they we’re phasing out Regular gas. I had a 1970 Firebird and remember paying $.40-45 per gallon for my Junior year in High School. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT, vintage memories Yep.. Remember all of it. Except gas was about $0.75 when I started driving. From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT, vintage memories For those of us who are “vintage”, a fun link http://www.webmarketing101.com/memory_lane.htm Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not
basic wiring question
All of our network jacks are terminated using the 568B standard. I use a Paladin Tools cable checker to trouble-shoot any wire/connection issues. Everything is good when the light on the cable tester blinks on 1 thru 8 in order. If it misses a number I know something is amiss. Last week we hired a firm to run some new wires and they terminated the jacks using the 568A standard. Although we aren't experiencing any issues with these new connections (but it's possible none are being used yet), my cable tester blinks in this order: 36145278. Same as a cross-over cable. I know my patch cables can be terminated either way as long as both ends are done the same, but having the cabling in the rooms as cross-over? Is this really a problem? If not, it's going to suck having to remember that 36145278 is ok when checking connections with this tester. Thanks, Paul Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Domain membership change
If I wanted to get notified anytime a user is added to say, Domain Admins, what's the best way to go about this? Is there an EventID I can look for? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: basic wiring question
Yes, it's just a continuity tester. Not checking A or B. It doesn't even test for cross-over. I needed to plugged one in to get the pattern. They definitely crossed the cables. They connected to the patch panel the same as all my other (B) connections, but the wall jack termination is A. So it makes sense that it tests as a cross. Doesn't seem like it should work, but I've been told it does. From: Jason Morris [mailto:jmor...@mjmc.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Ummm. If the tester is just checking continuity and it's not checking 568a or b, then they most likely crossed the cables. If it's actually checking whether it's A or B, then you might need to change something on the tester since continuity is a 1 to 1 test. Without knowing the model of the tester I can't help you more than that. Jason From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: basic wiring question All of our network jacks are terminated using the 568B standard. I use a Paladin Tools cable checker to trouble-shoot any wire/connection issues. Everything is good when the light on the cable tester blinks on 1 thru 8 in order. If it misses a number I know something is amiss. Last week we hired a firm to run some new wires and they terminated the jacks using the 568A standard. Although we aren't experiencing any issues with these new connections (but it's possible none are being used yet), my cable tester blinks in this order: 36145278. Same as a cross-over cable. I know my patch cables can be terminated either way as long as both ends are done the same, but having the cabling in the rooms as cross-over? Is this really a problem? If not, it's going to suck having to remember that 36145278 is ok when checking connections with this tester. Thanks, Paul Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. -- The pages accompanying this email transmission contain information from MJMC, Inc., which is confidential and/or privileged. The information is to be for the use of the individual or entity named on this cover sheet. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately notify us by telephone so that we can arrange for the retrieval of the original document. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Domain membership change
Do you have that many Domain Admins that it wouldn't be obvious? Or is this a case of someone elevating their permissions temporarily? David Lum david@nwea.org 5/24/2010 2:03 PM If I wanted to get notified anytime a user is added to say, Domain Admins, what's the best way to go about this? Is there an EventID I can look for? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: basic wiring question
That depends on whether the switch is gige and/or will fix the crossover issue. Most dell switches nowadays do that, some don't. Some cisco switches do, others don't. I prefer to have both sides the same so there's zero confusion later down the road. Good luck! From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Yes, it's just a continuity tester. Not checking A or B. It doesn't even test for cross-over. I needed to plugged one in to get the pattern. They definitely crossed the cables. They connected to the patch panel the same as all my other (B) connections, but the wall jack termination is A. So it makes sense that it tests as a cross. Doesn't seem like it should work, but I've been told it does. From: Jason Morris [mailto:jmor...@mjmc.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Ummm. If the tester is just checking continuity and it's not checking 568a or b, then they most likely crossed the cables. If it's actually checking whether it's A or B, then you might need to change something on the tester since continuity is a 1 to 1 test. Without knowing the model of the tester I can't help you more than that. Jason From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: basic wiring question All of our network jacks are terminated using the 568B standard. I use a Paladin Tools cable checker to trouble-shoot any wire/connection issues. Everything is good when the light on the cable tester blinks on 1 thru 8 in order. If it misses a number I know something is amiss. Last week we hired a firm to run some new wires and they terminated the jacks using the 568A standard. Although we aren't experiencing any issues with these new connections (but it's possible none are being used yet), my cable tester blinks in this order: 36145278. Same as a cross-over cable. I know my patch cables can be terminated either way as long as both ends are done the same, but having the cabling in the rooms as cross-over? Is this really a problem? If not, it's going to suck having to remember that 36145278 is ok when checking connections with this tester. Thanks, Paul Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.orghttp://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. -- The pages accompanying this email transmission contain information from MJMC, Inc., which is confidential and/or privileged. The information is to be for the use of the individual or entity named on this cover sheet. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately notify us by telephone so that we can arrange for the retrieval of the original document. -- The pages accompanying this email transmission contain information from MJMC, Inc., which is confidential and/or privileged. The information is to be for the use of the individual or entity named on this cover sheet. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately notify us by telephone so that we can arrange for the retrieval of the original document. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Domain membership change
It would be obvious if I looked every day. I don't want to look every day for the 1-2x year it might happen. Dave -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain membership change Do you have that many Domain Admins that it wouldn't be obvious? Or is this a case of someone elevating their permissions temporarily? David Lum david@nwea.org 5/24/2010 2:03 PM If I wanted to get notified anytime a user is added to say, Domain Admins, what's the best way to go about this? Is there an EventID I can look for? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: basic wiring question
Using HP ProCurves. They are probably correcting the cross which explains why they work. Thanks From: Jason Morris [mailto:jmor...@mjmc.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question That depends on whether the switch is gige and/or will fix the crossover issue. Most dell switches nowadays do that, some don't. Some cisco switches do, others don't. I prefer to have both sides the same so there's zero confusion later down the road. Good luck! From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Yes, it's just a continuity tester. Not checking A or B. It doesn't even test for cross-over. I needed to plugged one in to get the pattern. They definitely crossed the cables. They connected to the patch panel the same as all my other (B) connections, but the wall jack termination is A. So it makes sense that it tests as a cross. Doesn't seem like it should work, but I've been told it does. From: Jason Morris [mailto:jmor...@mjmc.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Ummm. If the tester is just checking continuity and it's not checking 568a or b, then they most likely crossed the cables. If it's actually checking whether it's A or B, then you might need to change something on the tester since continuity is a 1 to 1 test. Without knowing the model of the tester I can't help you more than that. Jason From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: basic wiring question All of our network jacks are terminated using the 568B standard. I use a Paladin Tools cable checker to trouble-shoot any wire/connection issues. Everything is good when the light on the cable tester blinks on 1 thru 8 in order. If it misses a number I know something is amiss. Last week we hired a firm to run some new wires and they terminated the jacks using the 568A standard. Although we aren't experiencing any issues with these new connections (but it's possible none are being used yet), my cable tester blinks in this order: 36145278. Same as a cross-over cable. I know my patch cables can be terminated either way as long as both ends are done the same, but having the cabling in the rooms as cross-over? Is this really a problem? If not, it's going to suck having to remember that 36145278 is ok when checking connections with this tester. Thanks, Paul Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. -- The pages accompanying this email transmission contain information from MJMC, Inc., which is confidential and/or privileged. The information is to be for the use of the individual or entity named on this cover sheet. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately notify us by telephone so that we can arrange for the retrieval of the original document. -- The pages accompanying this email transmission contain information from MJMC, Inc., which is confidential and/or privileged. The information is to be for the use of the individual or entity named on this cover sheet. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately notify us by telephone so that we can arrange for the retrieval of the original document. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: basic wiring question
It'll work if your switches do an automated crossover. However, your cabling vendor screwed up and they need to fix and recertify every single drop they've done for you like that. IMNSHO, any serious structured cabling contractor will use a CAT5/5e/6/7 etc cable certifier that does WAY more than a simple continuity test. While a $50 or $100 Siemens continuity checker is great for a quick and dirty inspection, nothing compares to certification. If your vendor isn't certifying your cable drops when they are installed, IMHO, you need to find a new vendor. They are possibly violating all kinds of cabling rules, not to mention possibly creating all kinds of NEC violations. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.comBLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.comBLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/ From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Yes, it's just a continuity tester. Not checking A or B. It doesn't even test for cross-over. I needed to plugged one in to get the pattern. They definitely crossed the cables. They connected to the patch panel the same as all my other (B) connections, but the wall jack termination is A. So it makes sense that it tests as a cross. Doesn't seem like it should work, but I've been told it does. From: Jason Morris [mailto:jmor...@mjmc.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Ummm. If the tester is just checking continuity and it's not checking 568a or b, then they most likely crossed the cables. If it's actually checking whether it's A or B, then you might need to change something on the tester since continuity is a 1 to 1 test. Without knowing the model of the tester I can't help you more than that. Jason From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: basic wiring question All of our network jacks are terminated using the 568B standard. I use a Paladin Tools cable checker to trouble-shoot any wire/connection issues. Everything is good when the light on the cable tester blinks on 1 thru 8 in order. If it misses a number I know something is amiss. Last week we hired a firm to run some new wires and they terminated the jacks using the 568A standard. Although we aren't experiencing any issues with these new connections (but it's possible none are being used yet), my cable tester blinks in this order: 36145278. Same as a cross-over cable. I know my patch cables can be terminated either way as long as both ends are done the same, but having the cabling in the rooms as cross-over? Is this really a problem? If not, it's going to suck having to remember that 36145278 is ok when checking connections with this tester. Thanks, Paul Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.orghttp://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. -- The pages accompanying this email transmission contain information from MJMC, Inc., which is confidential and/or privileged. The information is to be for the use of the individual or entity named on this cover sheet. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately notify us by telephone so that we can arrange for the retrieval of the original document. Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the
RE: basic wiring question
Jonathan, you are right on. From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question It'll work if your switches do an automated crossover. However, your cabling vendor screwed up and they need to fix and recertify every single drop they've done for you like that. IMNSHO, any serious structured cabling contractor will use a CAT5/5e/6/7 etc cable certifier that does WAY more than a simple continuity test. While a $50 or $100 Siemens continuity checker is great for a quick and dirty inspection, nothing compares to certification. If your vendor isn't certifying your cable drops when they are installed, IMHO, you need to find a new vendor. They are possibly violating all kinds of cabling rules, not to mention possibly creating all kinds of NEC violations. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com BLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com BLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/ From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Yes, it's just a continuity tester. Not checking A or B. It doesn't even test for cross-over. I needed to plugged one in to get the pattern. They definitely crossed the cables. They connected to the patch panel the same as all my other (B) connections, but the wall jack termination is A. So it makes sense that it tests as a cross. Doesn't seem like it should work, but I've been told it does. From: Jason Morris [mailto:jmor...@mjmc.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Ummm. If the tester is just checking continuity and it's not checking 568a or b, then they most likely crossed the cables. If it's actually checking whether it's A or B, then you might need to change something on the tester since continuity is a 1 to 1 test. Without knowing the model of the tester I can't help you more than that. Jason From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: basic wiring question All of our network jacks are terminated using the 568B standard. I use a Paladin Tools cable checker to trouble-shoot any wire/connection issues. Everything is good when the light on the cable tester blinks on 1 thru 8 in order. If it misses a number I know something is amiss. Last week we hired a firm to run some new wires and they terminated the jacks using the 568A standard. Although we aren't experiencing any issues with these new connections (but it's possible none are being used yet), my cable tester blinks in this order: 36145278. Same as a cross-over cable. I know my patch cables can be terminated either way as long as both ends are done the same, but having the cabling in the rooms as cross-over? Is this really a problem? If not, it's going to suck having to remember that 36145278 is ok when checking connections with this tester. Thanks, Paul Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. -- The pages accompanying this email transmission contain information from MJMC, Inc., which is confidential and/or privileged. The information is to be for the use of the individual or entity named on this cover sheet. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately notify us by telephone so that we can arrange for the retrieval of the original document. Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message,
Re: Domain membership change
Periodically i run the following which dumps the members of DA. C:\Tools\AdFindadfind -b CN=Domain Admins,CN=Users,DC=domain,DC=com -asq me mber -f * displayName samaccountname -sl -nodn -csv I'm sure someone who is a lot better at scripting than me, can configure the above to dump and possibly email the file/contents automagically. But the above suffices in my environment for now. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 5:23 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: It would be obvious if I looked every day. I don't want to look every day for the 1-2x year it might happen. Dave -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain membership change Do you have that many Domain Admins that it wouldn't be obvious? Or is this a case of someone elevating their permissions temporarily? David Lum david@nwea.org 5/24/2010 2:03 PM If I wanted to get notified anytime a user is added to say, Domain Admins, what's the best way to go about this? Is there an EventID I can look for? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: basic wiring question
I try. I don't always get it right, but don't EVEN think about trying to pull one over on me when it comes to messing with my physical infrastructure. I started cabling when I was 8 (my father would sneak me on to job sites on Saturdays, and I would keep the cables from tangling up at the reels as they were being pulled). I know a good cabling job, and I know crap, and it sounds like you got crap. I don't even know you or the facility, and I'm getting mad just thinking about it. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.comBLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.comBLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/ From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Jonathan, you are right on. From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question It'll work if your switches do an automated crossover. However, your cabling vendor screwed up and they need to fix and recertify every single drop they've done for you like that. IMNSHO, any serious structured cabling contractor will use a CAT5/5e/6/7 etc cable certifier that does WAY more than a simple continuity test. While a $50 or $100 Siemens continuity checker is great for a quick and dirty inspection, nothing compares to certification. If your vendor isn't certifying your cable drops when they are installed, IMHO, you need to find a new vendor. They are possibly violating all kinds of cabling rules, not to mention possibly creating all kinds of NEC violations. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.comBLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.comBLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/ From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Yes, it's just a continuity tester. Not checking A or B. It doesn't even test for cross-over. I needed to plugged one in to get the pattern. They definitely crossed the cables. They connected to the patch panel the same as all my other (B) connections, but the wall jack termination is A. So it makes sense that it tests as a cross. Doesn't seem like it should work, but I've been told it does. From: Jason Morris [mailto:jmor...@mjmc.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Ummm. If the tester is just checking continuity and it's not checking 568a or b, then they most likely crossed the cables. If it's actually checking whether it's A or B, then you might need to change something on the tester since continuity is a 1 to 1 test. Without knowing the model of the tester I can't help you more than that. Jason From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: basic wiring question All of our network jacks are terminated using the 568B standard. I use a Paladin Tools cable checker to trouble-shoot any wire/connection issues. Everything is good when the light on the cable tester blinks on 1 thru 8 in order. If it misses a number I know something is amiss. Last week we hired a firm to run some new wires and they terminated the jacks using the 568A standard. Although we aren't experiencing any issues with these new connections (but it's possible none are being used yet), my cable tester blinks in this order: 36145278. Same as a cross-over cable. I know my patch cables can be terminated either way as long as both ends are done the same, but having the cabling in the rooms as cross-over? Is this really a problem? If not, it's going to suck having to remember that 36145278 is ok when checking connections with this tester. Thanks, Paul Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.orghttp://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. -- The pages accompanying this email transmission contain information from MJMC, Inc., which is confidential and/or privileged. The information is to be for the use of the individual or
RE: Domain membership change
There's not a specific event for Domain Admins group membership. You'll have to look for the 632 security event and filter on the description containing substring Domain Admins. -Malcolm From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 16:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Domain membership change If I wanted to get notified anytime a user is added to say, Domain Admins, what's the best way to go about this? Is there an EventID I can look for? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: basic wiring question
To add to the confusion some FE (fast ethernet) hosts and switches do Auto MDI-X (the official technical term for auto-crossover) as well. On 5/24/2010 4:21 PM, Jason Morris wrote: That depends on whether the switch is gige and/or will fix the crossover issue. Most dell switches nowadays do that, some don’t. Some cisco switches do, others don’t. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: basic wiring question
+1 My coworkers gave me a good ribbing when I spent $1k on a Fluke Networks cable qualifier (not a certifier, a qualifier) instead of $50 for some random $50 Home Depot piece of s$*#. Until they had to use it, that is. On 5/24/2010 4:26 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle wrote: However, your cabling vendor screwed up and they need to fix and recertify every single drop they’ve done for you like that. IMNSHO, any serious structured cabling contractor will use a CAT5/5e/6/7 etc cable certifier that does WAY more than a simple continuity test. While a $50 or $100 Siemens continuity checker is great for a quick and dirty inspection, nothing compares to certification. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Domain membership change
Pre windows 2008. For windows 2008 and after, the event id changes. See http://www.ultimatewindowssecurity.com/securitylog/encyclopedia/event.aspx?eventid=632 And related entries. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Domain membership change There's not a specific event for Domain Admins group membership. You'll have to look for the 632 security event and filter on the description containing substring Domain Admins. -Malcolm From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 16:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Domain membership change If I wanted to get notified anytime a user is added to say, Domain Admins, what's the best way to go about this? Is there an EventID I can look for? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: basic wiring question
Yeah, I dig them. Makes life much easier when you are diagnosing problems. Bill Phil Brutsche wrote: +1 My coworkers gave me a good ribbing when I spent $1k on a Fluke Networks cable qualifier (not a certifier, a qualifier) instead of $50 for some random $50 Home Depot piece of s$*#. Until they had to use it, that is. On 5/24/2010 4:26 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle wrote: However, your cabling vendor screwed up and they need to fix and recertify every single drop they’ve done for you like that. IMNSHO, any serious structured cabling contractor will use a CAT5/5e/6/7 etc cable certifier that does WAY more than a simple continuity test. While a $50 or $100 Siemens continuity checker is great for a quick and dirty inspection, nothing compares to certification. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: basic wiring question
Be advised that along with the test and certification, you should also receive full documentation with the complete test results. Very good baseline info should there be problems down the road. Edward Fehling-IT Specialist Planning Department/ANA Project Reno-Sparks Indian Colony (775) 857-7883 From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Jonathan, you are right on. From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question It'll work if your switches do an automated crossover. However, your cabling vendor screwed up and they need to fix and recertify every single drop they've done for you like that. IMNSHO, any serious structured cabling contractor will use a CAT5/5e/6/7 etc cable certifier that does WAY more than a simple continuity test. While a $50 or $100 Siemens continuity checker is great for a quick and dirty inspection, nothing compares to certification. If your vendor isn't certifying your cable drops when they are installed, IMHO, you need to find a new vendor. They are possibly violating all kinds of cabling rules, not to mention possibly creating all kinds of NEC violations. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com BLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com BLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/ From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Yes, it's just a continuity tester. Not checking A or B. It doesn't even test for cross-over. I needed to plugged one in to get the pattern. They definitely crossed the cables. They connected to the patch panel the same as all my other (B) connections, but the wall jack termination is A. So it makes sense that it tests as a cross. Doesn't seem like it should work, but I've been told it does. From: Jason Morris [mailto:jmor...@mjmc.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Ummm. If the tester is just checking continuity and it's not checking 568a or b, then they most likely crossed the cables. If it's actually checking whether it's A or B, then you might need to change something on the tester since continuity is a 1 to 1 test. Without knowing the model of the tester I can't help you more than that. Jason From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: basic wiring question All of our network jacks are terminated using the 568B standard. I use a Paladin Tools cable checker to trouble-shoot any wire/connection issues. Everything is good when the light on the cable tester blinks on 1 thru 8 in order. If it misses a number I know something is amiss. Last week we hired a firm to run some new wires and they terminated the jacks using the 568A standard. Although we aren't experiencing any issues with these new connections (but it's possible none are being used yet), my cable tester blinks in this order: 36145278. Same as a cross-over cable. I know my patch cables can be terminated either way as long as both ends are done the same, but having the cabling in the rooms as cross-over? Is this really a problem? If not, it's going to suck having to remember that 36145278 is ok when checking connections with this tester. Thanks, Paul Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org http://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. -- The pages accompanying this email transmission contain information from MJMC, Inc., which is confidential and/or privileged. The information is to be for the use of the individual or entity named on this cover sheet. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately notify us by telephone so that we can arrange for the retrieval of the original
RE: basic wiring question
Yeah - they are easy enough to print out or email from a decent certification tool when connected to your PC/laptop. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.comBLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.comBLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/ From: Edward Fehling [mailto:efehl...@rsic.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Be advised that along with the test and certification, you should also receive full documentation with the complete test results. Very good baseline info should there be problems down the road. Edward Fehling-IT Specialist Planning Department/ANA Project Reno-Sparks Indian Colony (775) 857-7883 From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Jonathan, you are right on. From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question It'll work if your switches do an automated crossover. However, your cabling vendor screwed up and they need to fix and recertify every single drop they've done for you like that. IMNSHO, any serious structured cabling contractor will use a CAT5/5e/6/7 etc cable certifier that does WAY more than a simple continuity test. While a $50 or $100 Siemens continuity checker is great for a quick and dirty inspection, nothing compares to certification. If your vendor isn't certifying your cable drops when they are installed, IMHO, you need to find a new vendor. They are possibly violating all kinds of cabling rules, not to mention possibly creating all kinds of NEC violations. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.comBLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.comBLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/ From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Yes, it's just a continuity tester. Not checking A or B. It doesn't even test for cross-over. I needed to plugged one in to get the pattern. They definitely crossed the cables. They connected to the patch panel the same as all my other (B) connections, but the wall jack termination is A. So it makes sense that it tests as a cross. Doesn't seem like it should work, but I've been told it does. From: Jason Morris [mailto:jmor...@mjmc.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Ummm. If the tester is just checking continuity and it's not checking 568a or b, then they most likely crossed the cables. If it's actually checking whether it's A or B, then you might need to change something on the tester since continuity is a 1 to 1 test. Without knowing the model of the tester I can't help you more than that. Jason From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: basic wiring question All of our network jacks are terminated using the 568B standard. I use a Paladin Tools cable checker to trouble-shoot any wire/connection issues. Everything is good when the light on the cable tester blinks on 1 thru 8 in order. If it misses a number I know something is amiss. Last week we hired a firm to run some new wires and they terminated the jacks using the 568A standard. Although we aren't experiencing any issues with these new connections (but it's possible none are being used yet), my cable tester blinks in this order: 36145278. Same as a cross-over cable. I know my patch cables can be terminated either way as long as both ends are done the same, but having the cabling in the rooms as cross-over? Is this really a problem? If not, it's going to suck having to remember that 36145278 is ok when checking connections with this tester. Thanks, Paul Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.orghttp://www.leementalhealth.org/ to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. -- The pages accompanying this email transmission contain information from MJMC, Inc.,
Re: basic wiring question
The info posted so far has all been good. Obviously, your cabling installer screwed up. It sounds they terminated one end as 568 A and the other end as 568 B. Diagram: http://networking.layer-x.com/pic/fig017.gif The *only* difference between 568 A and B is which colors are used for pairs 1 and 3. As long as both ends of a given cable are terminated the same way, it doesn't matter which one you use. Indeed, you can use whatever colors you want, as long as you keep the same pairs in the same positions. For 10BASE-T and 100BASE-T, any switch which does MDI/MDI-X auto-detection will fix this for you. 10 and 100 megabit both only use pairs 1 and 3 (center inner, and left). I'm suspect those cables will *not* work for gigabit though. Gigabit uses all four pairs, and they only crossed pairs 1 and 3. If the PHY design assumes all four pairs are the same orientation (and that seems reasonable), it will not be able to adapt to having only half the pairs crossed. Since we're on the subject: Another common wiring mistake is to assume that you can just wire it up however you like, as long as both ends are the same. That is *not* true. The pairing of wires, and the positions of the pairs, is significant. Ethernet uses differential signaling. It transmits the signal down one wire in a pair, and the same signal inverted in the other. The other end takes the difference between the two. This helps eliminate interference. So you have to have pairs on the right pins, or you'll get horrible performance over longer runs. What's worse is that doing it wrong will often work on short runs, so then you get into arguments with clueless newbies who say it always worked before. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: basic wiring question
My point exactly. One time I had a dumb terminal connected to a Livingston Portmaster via CAT5. (yes, this was a LONG time ago). The end user kept complaining about crazy display problems. We verified the settings on her terminal, and finally just changed out her terminal. She kept complaining. I checked the cable with a Siemens continuity tester: all clear. Visual inspection: looked good. Still complained of problems. Finally, I brought in an Ideal LanTek certifier (didn't have the money for a Fluke). I connected it and sure enough it failed. Upon visual inspection once more, ONE of the wires was not COMPLETELY seated in the insulation displacement connector. I clipped, re-terminated, and certified the cable. The user NEVER had another problem. Period. End of story. ...that is until the day (years later) when we took away the dumb terminal and gave her a windows box, then a whole new can of worms was opened! But I digress... Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: basic wiring question +1 My coworkers gave me a good ribbing when I spent $1k on a Fluke Networks cable qualifier (not a certifier, a qualifier) instead of $50 for some random $50 Home Depot piece of s$*#. Until they had to use it, that is. On 5/24/2010 4:26 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle wrote: However, your cabling vendor screwed up and they need to fix and recertify every single drop they've done for you like that. IMNSHO, any serious structured cabling contractor will use a CAT5/5e/6/7 etc cable certifier that does WAY more than a simple continuity test. While a $50 or $100 Siemens continuity checker is great for a quick and dirty inspection, nothing compares to certification. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: basic wiring question
Another little known fact is that because the signaling is different in each pair, they also have different twist rates per foot. Very important esp. with CAT6 wiring. Edward Fehling-IT Specialist Planning Department/ANA Project Reno-Sparks Indian Colony (775) 857-7883 -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: basic wiring question The info posted so far has all been good. Obviously, your cabling installer screwed up. It sounds they terminated one end as 568 A and the other end as 568 B. Diagram: http://networking.layer-x.com/pic/fig017.gif The *only* difference between 568 A and B is which colors are used for pairs 1 and 3. As long as both ends of a given cable are terminated the same way, it doesn't matter which one you use. Indeed, you can use whatever colors you want, as long as you keep the same pairs in the same positions. For 10BASE-T and 100BASE-T, any switch which does MDI/MDI-X auto-detection will fix this for you. 10 and 100 megabit both only use pairs 1 and 3 (center inner, and left). I'm suspect those cables will *not* work for gigabit though. Gigabit uses all four pairs, and they only crossed pairs 1 and 3. If the PHY design assumes all four pairs are the same orientation (and that seems reasonable), it will not be able to adapt to having only half the pairs crossed. Since we're on the subject: Another common wiring mistake is to assume that you can just wire it up however you like, as long as both ends are the same. That is *not* true. The pairing of wires, and the positions of the pairs, is significant. Ethernet uses differential signaling. It transmits the signal down one wire in a pair, and the same signal inverted in the other. The other end takes the difference between the two. This helps eliminate interference. So you have to have pairs on the right pins, or you'll get horrible performance over longer runs. What's worse is that doing it wrong will often work on short runs, so then you get into arguments with clueless newbies who say it always worked before. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Domain membership change
Adding a little blat.exe (FOSS utility for email) and fc.exe (native command for comparing files) to that mix would do just what you want. Kurt On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 14:33, Harry Singh hbo...@gmail.com wrote: Periodically i run the following which dumps the members of DA. C:\Tools\AdFindadfind -b CN=Domain Admins,CN=Users,DC=domain,DC=com -asq me mber -f * displayName samaccountname -sl -nodn -csv I'm sure someone who is a lot better at scripting than me, can configure the above to dump and possibly email the file/contents automagically. But the above suffices in my environment for now. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 5:23 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: It would be obvious if I looked every day. I don't want to look every day for the 1-2x year it might happen. Dave -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain membership change Do you have that many Domain Admins that it wouldn't be obvious? Or is this a case of someone elevating their permissions temporarily? David Lum david@nwea.org 5/24/2010 2:03 PM If I wanted to get notified anytime a user is added to say, Domain Admins, what's the best way to go about this? Is there an EventID I can look for? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: basic wiring question
+1 Always make a certification report part of a cabling install. They should have at least something this good: http://www.provantage.com/fluke-networks-ciq-kit~7FLUK0AA.htm for their installs, and test every drop and give you the printout. Of course, I'd prefer to have on of those myself, but I've never been successful in getting $WORK to get one, even though it's relatively inexpensive. Kurt On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 14:26, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: It’ll work if your switches do an automated crossover. However, your cabling vendor screwed up and they need to fix and recertify every single drop they’ve done for you like that. IMNSHO, any serious structured cabling contractor will use a CAT5/5e/6/7 etc cable certifier that does WAY more than a simple continuity test. While a $50 or $100 Siemens continuity checker is great for a quick and dirty inspection, nothing compares to certification. If your vendor isn’t certifying your cable drops when they are installed, IMHO, you need to find a new vendor. They are possibly violating all kinds of cabling rules, not to mention possibly creating all kinds of NEC violations. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Yes, it’s just a continuity tester. Not checking A or B. It doesn’t even test for cross-over. I needed to plugged one in to get the pattern. They definitely crossed the cables. They connected to the patch panel the same as all my other (B) connections, but the wall jack termination is A. So it makes sense that it tests as a cross. Doesn’t seem like it should work, but I’ve been told it does. From: Jason Morris [mailto:jmor...@mjmc.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: basic wiring question Ummm. If the tester is just checking continuity and it’s not checking 568a or b, then they most likely crossed the cables. If it’s actually checking whether it’s A or B, then you might need to change something on the tester since continuity is a 1 to 1 test. Without knowing the model of the tester I can’t help you more than that. Jason From: Paul Everett [mailto:evere...@leementalhealth.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: basic wiring question All of our network jacks are terminated using the 568B standard. I use a Paladin Tools cable checker to trouble-shoot any wire/connection issues. Everything is good when the light on the cable tester blinks on 1 thru 8 in order. If it misses a number I know something is amiss. Last week we hired a firm to run some new wires and they terminated the jacks using the 568A standard. Although we aren’t experiencing any issues with these new connections (but it’s possible none are being used yet), my cable tester blinks in this order: 36145278. Same as a cross-over cable. I know my patch cables can be terminated either way as long as both ends are done the same, but having the cabling in the rooms as cross-over? Is this really a problem? If not, it’s going to suck having to remember that 36145278 is ok when checking connections with this tester. Thanks, Paul Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services. Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org to learn more. Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message, including attachments. -- The pages accompanying this email transmission contain information from MJMC, Inc., which is confidential and/or privileged. The information is to be for the use of the individual or entity named on this cover sheet. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately notify us by telephone so that we can arrange for the retrieval of the original document. Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This
RE: Domain membership change
Only issue with that is that you could miss the change if the add and remove happens inside your batch job interval. You're better off using the event IDs posted earlier. If you have MOM/SCOM it's really easy to subscribe to these. Otherwise WMI (and I think in 2008+ graphically) you can create event subscriptions that fire on stuff like this and send emails. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c – 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain membership change Adding a little blat.exe (FOSS utility for email) and fc.exe (native command for comparing files) to that mix would do just what you want. Kurt On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 14:33, Harry Singh hbo...@gmail.com wrote: Periodically i run the following which dumps the members of DA. C:\Tools\AdFindadfind -b CN=Domain Admins,CN=Users,DC=domain,DC=com -asq me mber -f * displayName samaccountname -sl -nodn -csv I'm sure someone who is a lot better at scripting than me, can configure the above to dump and possibly email the file/contents automagically. But the above suffices in my environment for now. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 5:23 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: It would be obvious if I looked every day. I don't want to look every day for the 1-2x year it might happen. Dave -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain membership change Do you have that many Domain Admins that it wouldn't be obvious? Or is this a case of someone elevating their permissions temporarily? David Lum david@nwea.org 5/24/2010 2:03 PM If I wanted to get notified anytime a user is added to say, Domain Admins, what's the best way to go about this? Is there an EventID I can look for? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Domain membership change
Nice. But, I've never touched Win2k8, and $WORK hasn't/won't spend money on monitoring tools. OTOH, I do use the IntersectAlliance client, and cast everything to syslog, so could do something with that... Kurt On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 17:22, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: Only issue with that is that you could miss the change if the add and remove happens inside your batch job interval. You're better off using the event IDs posted earlier. If you have MOM/SCOM it's really easy to subscribe to these. Otherwise WMI (and I think in 2008+ graphically) you can create event subscriptions that fire on stuff like this and send emails. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c – 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain membership change Adding a little blat.exe (FOSS utility for email) and fc.exe (native command for comparing files) to that mix would do just what you want. Kurt On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 14:33, Harry Singh hbo...@gmail.com wrote: Periodically i run the following which dumps the members of DA. C:\Tools\AdFindadfind -b CN=Domain Admins,CN=Users,DC=domain,DC=com -asq me mber -f * displayName samaccountname -sl -nodn -csv I'm sure someone who is a lot better at scripting than me, can configure the above to dump and possibly email the file/contents automagically. But the above suffices in my environment for now. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 5:23 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: It would be obvious if I looked every day. I don't want to look every day for the 1-2x year it might happen. Dave -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain membership change Do you have that many Domain Admins that it wouldn't be obvious? Or is this a case of someone elevating their permissions temporarily? David Lum david@nwea.org 5/24/2010 2:03 PM If I wanted to get notified anytime a user is added to say, Domain Admins, what's the best way to go about this? Is there an EventID I can look for? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Domain membership change
*Only issue with that is that you could miss the change if the add and remove happens inside your batch job interval. * True, but how much of a practical problem is that really? -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.comwrote: Only issue with that is that you could miss the change if the add and remove happens inside your batch job interval. You're better off using the event IDs posted earlier. If you have MOM/SCOM it's really easy to subscribe to these. Otherwise WMI (and I think in 2008+ graphically) you can create event subscriptions that fire on stuff like this and send emails. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c – 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain membership change Adding a little blat.exe (FOSS utility for email) and fc.exe (native command for comparing files) to that mix would do just what you want. Kurt On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 14:33, Harry Singh hbo...@gmail.com wrote: Periodically i run the following which dumps the members of DA. C:\Tools\AdFindadfind -b CN=Domain Admins,CN=Users,DC=domain,DC=com -asq me mber -f * displayName samaccountname -sl -nodn -csv I'm sure someone who is a lot better at scripting than me, can configure the above to dump and possibly email the file/contents automagically. But the above suffices in my environment for now. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 5:23 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: It would be obvious if I looked every day. I don't want to look every day for the 1-2x year it might happen. Dave -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain membership change Do you have that many Domain Admins that it wouldn't be obvious? Or is this a case of someone elevating their permissions temporarily? David Lum david@nwea.org 5/24/2010 2:03 PM If I wanted to get notified anytime a user is added to say, Domain Admins, what's the best way to go about this? Is there an EventID I can look for? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Domain membership change
You might be better off configuring auditing policies, running ntsyslog and reporting with an email trigger for the event ID. Just my .02 - Mark On May 24, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Only issue with that is that you could miss the change if the add and remove happens inside your batch job interval. True, but how much of a practical problem is that really? -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: Only issue with that is that you could miss the change if the add and remove happens inside your batch job interval. You're better off using the event IDs posted earlier. If you have MOM/SCOM it's really easy to subscribe to these. Otherwise WMI (and I think in 2008+ graphically) you can create event subscriptions that fire on stuff like this and send emails. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c – 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain membership change Adding a little blat.exe (FOSS utility for email) and fc.exe (native command for comparing files) to that mix would do just what you want. Kurt On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 14:33, Harry Singh hbo...@gmail.com wrote: Periodically i run the following which dumps the members of DA. C:\Tools\AdFindadfind -b CN=Domain Admins,CN=Users,DC=domain,DC=com -asq me mber -f * displayName samaccountname -sl -nodn -csv I'm sure someone who is a lot better at scripting than me, can configure the above to dump and possibly email the file/contents automagically. But the above suffices in my environment for now. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 5:23 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: It would be obvious if I looked every day. I don't want to look every day for the 1-2x year it might happen. Dave -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain membership change Do you have that many Domain Admins that it wouldn't be obvious? Or is this a case of someone elevating their permissions temporarily? David Lum david@nwea.org 5/24/2010 2:03 PM If I wanted to get notified anytime a user is added to say, Domain Admins, what's the best way to go about this? Is there an EventID I can look for? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Domain membership change
Good catch. Different event ID (4728); still have to parse the event parameters for the group name, though. -Malcolm -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 16:45 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Domain membership change Pre windows 2008. For windows 2008 and after, the event id changes. See http://www.ultimatewindowssecurity.com/securitylog/encyclopedia/event.aspx? eventid=632 And related entries. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Domain membership change There's not a specific event for Domain Admins group membership. You'll have to look for the 632 security event and filter on the description containing substring Domain Admins. -Malcolm From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 16:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Domain membership change If I wanted to get notified anytime a user is added to say, Domain Admins, what's the best way to go about this? Is there an EventID I can look for? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Domain membership change
I've seen it happen when you've got people who don't belong in the groups figure out a way to temporarily add themselves. I've held a couple folks over a barbeque pit for it. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain membership change Only issue with that is that you could miss the change if the add and remove happens inside your batch job interval. True, but how much of a practical problem is that really? -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com wrote: Only issue with that is that you could miss the change if the add and remove happens inside your batch job interval. You're better off using the event IDs posted earlier. If you have MOM/SCOM it's really easy to subscribe to these. Otherwise WMI (and I think in 2008+ graphically) you can create event subscriptions that fire on stuff like this and send emails. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain membership change Adding a little blat.exe (FOSS utility for email) and fc.exe (native command for comparing files) to that mix would do just what you want. Kurt On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 14:33, Harry Singh hbo...@gmail.commailto:hbo...@gmail.com wrote: Periodically i run the following which dumps the members of DA. C:\Tools\AdFindadfind -b CN=Domain Admins,CN=Users,DC=domain,DC=com -asq me mber -f * displayName samaccountname -sl -nodn -csv I'm sure someone who is a lot better at scripting than me, can configure the above to dump and possibly email the file/contents automagically. But the above suffices in my environment for now. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 5:23 PM, David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote: It would be obvious if I looked every day. I don't want to look every day for the 1-2x year it might happen. Dave -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.govmailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain membership change Do you have that many Domain Admins that it wouldn't be obvious? Or is this a case of someone elevating their permissions temporarily? David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org 5/24/2010 2:03 PM If I wanted to get notified anytime a user is added to say, Domain Admins, what's the best way to go about this? Is there an EventID I can look for? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Domain membership change
Depends on how crafty the attac^H^H^H^H^H - the uh, lazy sysadmin is... Kurt On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 18:30, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Only issue with that is that you could miss the change if the add and remove happens inside your batch job interval. True, but how much of a practical problem is that really? -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: Only issue with that is that you could miss the change if the add and remove happens inside your batch job interval. You're better off using the event IDs posted earlier. If you have MOM/SCOM it's really easy to subscribe to these. Otherwise WMI (and I think in 2008+ graphically) you can create event subscriptions that fire on stuff like this and send emails. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c – 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain membership change Adding a little blat.exe (FOSS utility for email) and fc.exe (native command for comparing files) to that mix would do just what you want. Kurt On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 14:33, Harry Singh hbo...@gmail.com wrote: Periodically i run the following which dumps the members of DA. C:\Tools\AdFindadfind -b CN=Domain Admins,CN=Users,DC=domain,DC=com -asq me mber -f * displayName samaccountname -sl -nodn -csv I'm sure someone who is a lot better at scripting than me, can configure the above to dump and possibly email the file/contents automagically. But the above suffices in my environment for now. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 5:23 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: It would be obvious if I looked every day. I don't want to look every day for the 1-2x year it might happen. Dave -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Domain membership change Do you have that many Domain Admins that it wouldn't be obvious? Or is this a case of someone elevating their permissions temporarily? David Lum david@nwea.org 5/24/2010 2:03 PM If I wanted to get notified anytime a user is added to say, Domain Admins, what's the best way to go about this? Is there an EventID I can look for? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
