RE: OT: Vipre effectiveness false positives

2010-07-30 Thread David Lum
As I have stated in previous AV threads, I actually use/manage 3 different AV 
products: Vipre Enterprise (3 clients, ~25 systems, plus my home machines), 
Trend WorryFree (1 client, 55 systems) and McAfee (%dayjob%, ~500 systems) and 
Vipre easily has more false positives  than the other two: 3 in the last 12 
months, vs zero for Trend and McAfee. Twice it ate Outlook.exe, one other time 
it ate Iexplore.exe. Not enough to make we want to switch from Vipre, just 
offering a data point.

A bit over a year ago Vipre replaced Trend at home (1 server, 3PC's), Symantec 
at a client of 17, and standalone McAfee at a client of 7, no major issues 
transitioning any of them. There were enough teething pains (FP's) early on to 
prevent me from replacing it at the bigger client as well as %dayjob%.

I avoided the recent McAfee fiasco because I grab updates ~20 hours after they 
typcically release, didn't know Trend had one recently.

Alternately, none of these sites have had infections requiring a HDD wipe.


Dave


From: Ralph Smith m...@gatewayindustries.org
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

I don't disagree, but when you are presented with information you have to 
evaluate the validity of the data, and hopefully get clarification from those 
involved when it implies that there may be a problem.  Virus Bulletin actually 
warned in the explanation of the chart that it was just one result and that 
conclusions shouldn't be jumped to until there was more data.

And sometimes, a horse is just a horse, of course.



From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 4:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

My point was really that all AV vendors have experience FPs, not just Vipre.

I agree that statistics can be a valuable tool, it’s just that which ones you 
choose and how you present them can be misleading.  For example, in a horse 
race between the US and Russia, the US horse won.  In the American papers, it 
was reported that the US was took first place.  In the Russian papers, it was 
reported that the US was next to last and that Russia was second place.  The 
statistics reported in both cases were true, but the picture they gave of the 
race was very different.

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 3:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

True, but there were people on the VIPRE forum that were hit just as hard by a 
couple of the FPs that VIPRE had.  I’m not knocking VIPRE at all – I like it a 
lot and would purchase it again with no hesitation.

However, when a well known organization like Virus Bulletin publishes test 
results, it makes sense to look at the data and try to understand what it means 
and how it may impact your organization.   I personally feel confident with 
Sunbelt, but I would be interested to understand how they interpret the chart 
and what they feel the implications are for their product.

By the way, some lies may be statistics, but not all statistics are lies.  
Information, including statistical, is the basis for sound decision making.


From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

How about a little perspective on false positives?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20003074-83.html

and a reminder about statistics from Mark Twain:
“there’s 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics”


From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

I’ve had VIPRE for a couple of years now, and was fortunately not hit hard with 
the false positive problems others have had.  With about 180 Win XP machines, 
I’ve had only a half dozen infections in that time – all but one of the rogue 
AV kind, so I have been feeling pretty good.

However, the chart that was linked to is a bit worrying – the only popular 
business class AV solution that scored worse was CA (my former solution), and 
most of the others – McAfee, ESET, Kaspersky, Sophos to name a few – show 
significantly better results.

It would be interesting to hear a comment from Sunbelt – a little reassurance 
needed here. :-)



From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

I don't know what you have now, but I can tell you from experience at various 
client sites over the last year or so, none of the following was without issues 
:  Trend, McAfee, Symantec SAV  SEP
On 

RE: Password question

2010-07-30 Thread Paul Gordon
I thought so... but a couple of the other replies make me doubt myself
now... - the grey matter has been thinning for quite a few years now, but
I'm *sure* I remember this happening to me several times over the years as
I've hit my company password expiry policy limit whilst offsite, and have
seen and used the prompt from OWA to reset my password... - I am currently
working mostly wth  EX2010 *with* SP1 beta though

Paul G.


 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
 Sent: 29 July 2010 17:49
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Password question
 
 Cool, so with 2010, I don't have to uncheck the User must change password
 option?
 
  Paul Gordon paul_gor...@hotmail.com 7/29/2010 9:38 AM 
 What version of Exchange / OWA?
 
 If 2010, then yes, via the ECP, users can perform various self-service
 activities at will...
 If 2007, then the option is also there under Options Change
Password...
 
 Also, as I recall, - since each of the above options require that the user
 is already logged in to their mailbox in order to be able to get to those
 links... OWA will also prompt a user for a password change in the event
that
 a password has expired, or it's a new user account with the must change
 password at next logon setting applied...
 
 So yes, users can change their AD passwords via OWA with *almost* as much
 flexibility as from a normal login session on a domain joined desktop
 client
 
 HTH
 
 Paul G.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
  Sent: 29 July 2010 16:53
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Password question
 
  Cross-posted here and in the Exchange list:
 
  Are you able to change your AD password from within OWA?
 
  We have the following situation:
 
  1)  Novell currently handles our authentication, users, e-mail, etc.  We
 have a
  Windows domain, but it's only for applications.
 
  2)  We are planning a migration from Novell to a new Windows AD domain.
 
  3)  The first stage of this migration is moving from Groupwise to
 Exchange.
  The plan here is to bring up the AD domain just enough to put users in,
 and
  install Exchange.  The users would use OWA to access their e-mail.
 
  This brought up a concern for me:  how do users change their AD
 passwords?
  When the accounts are created initially, we put on a temporary password,
  and let the users change it, but can they do that if the only connection
 they
  have is OWA?
 
 
 
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OT: Sprint SmartView, U301, Win 7x64 and failure to connect

2010-07-30 Thread Gary Whitten
All

Reached the end of my rope.   Have a Dell Latitude D531 laptop I rebuilt on
7/10 with Win 7 Pro x64.   Have a known-working U301 modem (works on another
machine) issued by Sprint.  Am using Sprint SmartView 2.40.   Device is
detected fine, but when you press Connect button, it thinks about it for
less than a second and goes back to 'Connect'.

This DID work fine from the time I originally built it, for about a week
when it just stopped.  Obviously, something happened, but am unsure of what.

System Restores are out, as installs/uninstalls of different versions of
SmartView have used up all the allotted disk space. (Used Ace Utilities
registry cleaner, Sprint's Clean.exe , etc. between each)

I have uninstalled all Windows Updates since initial install,
rebooting/testing after each one.  No joy.

Google has not yielded anything.  Can't find anything relevant on Sprint
forums.   Not saying stuff isn't there, but maybe I'm just not thinking of
the right keywords.

One of the guys at the office in charge of system images (it's a company
issued air card, personal laptop, but need aircard working on both for biz
continuity) has told me that he's had minimal luck save for a total reimage.
I'd really rather avoid this without knowing the cause, so I can avoid that
trigger going forward.

If anyone has any suggestions or experiences to share on this, I'd really
appreciate it.

Have a great Friday,

Gary Whitten


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Re: WDS, PXE Proxy Split DHCP

2010-07-30 Thread tony patton
This is similar to our setup here, WDS is installed on the secondary DCs 
on each of our sites, this was to overcome the PXE across VLANs without 
the networks team changing the config of the switches with the IP helper 
of our MDT servers.

In the properties for WDS, under the DHCP tab 'Do not listen on port 67' 
and 'Configure DHCP option 60 to PXEClient' are both checked.
Under Advanced, 'Yes, I want to authorise the WDS server in DHCP' is 
enabled.

This is running on Server 2003, with a manual split of the DHCP scopes so 
may not apply to 2008 R2 with the Split Scopes option.

Have you tried option 66 on DC01 with the IP of DC02?

I have some other notes about configuring the settings for WDS in the DHCP 
scopes, I'll try and dig them out.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Support Analyst - Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:   Sean Rector sean.rec...@vaopera.org
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:   29/07/2010 00:18
Subject:WDS, PXE Proxy  Split DHCP



Hello,
 
I have two Windows Server 2008 R2 DHCP servers in a SplitScope 
configuration.  One of these is my WDS server.  If the PXE client pulls 
its IP from that server (DC01), WDS runs fine on the client.  If the 
client pulls its IP from the 2nd server (DC02), I get the ?Windows failed 
to start.? error screen of Windows Boot Manager.  On DC02, I have DHCP 
Options 66 (IP of DC01) and 67 (boot\X64\wdsnbp.com) configured.  What am 
I missing?  The documentation really doesn?t cover having a SplitScope 
configuration.  I have DHCP split for resiliency.
 
Sean Rector, MCSE
 
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It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread RichardMcClary
http://www.sysadminday.com/

And my Help Desk guy got the day off!
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Re: It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread Vicky Spelshaus
Top 4 things you should NEVER tell a sysadmin on SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR
APPRECIATION DAY (or any other day)
http://www.pcweenies.com/



On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:10 AM, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:


 http://www.sysadminday.com/

 And my Help Desk guy got the day off!
 --
 Richard








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RE: It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread John Aldrich
Bummer. wish *I* could get some appreciation here. L Oh, well..

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: It's that day!

 

Top 4 things you should NEVER tell a sysadmin on SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR
APPRECIATION DAY (or any other day)
http://www.pcweenies.com/

 


 

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:10 AM, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:


http://www.sysadminday.com/ 

And my Help Desk guy got the day off!
-- 
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RE: It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread Maglinger, Paul
This, and $1.75 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

And there was much rejoicing. yea...

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: It's that day!

 


http://www.sysadminday.com/ 

And my Help Desk guy got the day off!
-- 
Richard 

 

 

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RE: It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread Brumbaugh, Luke
So it's worth 25cents?  Starbucks is $2 here.
I like that miserable stuff from Mickey D's  ($1)

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's that day!

This, and $1.75 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
And there was much rejoicing. yea...

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: It's that day!


http://www.sysadminday.com/

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RE: It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Just got an email from a co-worker.

Happy S.A.D.

 

Ironic?

 

 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's that day!

 

So it's worth 25cents?  Starbucks is $2 here.

I like that miserable stuff from Mickey D's  ($1)

 

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's that day!

 

This, and $1.75 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

And there was much rejoicing. yea...

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
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http://www.sysadminday.com/ 

And my Help Desk guy got the day off!
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RE: Vipre effectiveness false positives

2010-07-30 Thread Cameron Cooper
We've been on Vipre (and was one CounterSpy) for several years now and
have had less than a handful of issues with being infected.  Not to say
that we haven't been infected, but we've had a pretty good success rate
compared to when we had Symantec's Endpoint Protection.

 

In regards to the false positives... we haven't had too many issues with
this as some people have (knock on wood), but have had issues and were
able to resolve those fairly quick.

 

_

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Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Inc

Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 3:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

 

True, but there were people on the VIPRE forum that were hit just as
hard by a couple of the FPs that VIPRE had.  I'm not knocking VIPRE at
all - I like it a lot and would purchase it again with no hesitation.

 

However, when a well known organization like Virus Bulletin publishes
test results, it makes sense to look at the data and try to understand
what it means and how it may impact your organization.   I personally
feel confident with Sunbelt, but I would be interested to understand how
they interpret the chart and what they feel the implications are for
their product.

 

By the way, some lies may be statistics, but not all statistics are
lies.  Information, including statistical, is the basis for sound
decision making.

 



From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

 

How about a little perspective on false positives?

 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20003074-83.html

 

and a reminder about statistics from Mark Twain:

there's 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics

 

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

 

I've had VIPRE for a couple of years now, and was fortunately not hit
hard with the false positive problems others have had.  With about 180
Win XP machines, I've had only a half dozen infections in that time -
all but one of the rogue AV kind, so I have been feeling pretty good.

 

However, the chart that was linked to is a bit worrying - the only
popular business class AV solution that scored worse was CA (my former
solution), and most of the others - McAfee, ESET, Kaspersky, Sophos to
name a few - show significantly better results.

 

It would be interesting to hear a comment from Sunbelt - a little
reassurance needed here. :-)  

 

 



From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

 

I don't know what you have now, but I can tell you from experience at
various client sites over the last year or so, none of the following was
without issues :  Trend, McAfee, Symantec SAV  SEP

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com
wrote:

For all of you staunch Vipre supporters, I'm just wondering, are you
still so staunch given the various false positives over the past year?
It seems like I remember reading here about one every quarter or so, and
I can confirm at least 3 since (from online records and messages I
didn't delete) since June 2009.  And how many of you have had to deal
with infections despite having an up-to-date Vipre?

 

Issue I'm debating is a switch from another product to Vipre, and even
though the price is very good, I'm looking at the Virusbtn RAP quadrant
(http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/rap-index.xml) with a very poor showing
for Sunbelt.   Including the false positives and cost of switching, it
doesn't add up to a good choice.  At least if the protection was much
better, then the occasional false positive might be justified.   Is
there any 3rd party comparison or statistic that gives Vipre a better
than average result?

 

I'm not looking for endorsements or praise for their tech support -
heard that all before.  But if you've had Vipre on 10 seats or more and
have kept track of live infections after a year or longer, and effort to
avoid or recover from false positives, that would be great to know.
Please include total number of seats in any report.

 

Carl

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread RichardMcClary
Anyway, for those of us who feel our career is in the crapper-

I had to replace one of those on Sysadmin Appreciation Day a few years 
back.
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Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote on 07/30/2010 09:11:52 AM:

 Just got an email from a co-worker.
 ?Happy S.A.D.?
 
 Ironic?
 
 
 From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:03 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day!
 
 So it?s worth 25cents?  Starbucks is $2 here.
 I like that miserable stuff from Mickey D?s  ($1)
 
 From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:47 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day!
 
 This, and $1.75 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
 And there was much rejoicing. yea??.
 
 From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:10 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: It's that day!
 
 
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RE: Vipre effectiveness false positives

2010-07-30 Thread Cameron Cooper
I think it all comes down to what you feel comfortable using and feel
will protect you environment the best.  That could be with Vipre or SEP,
McAfee, etc... as others have said... no one solution will be 100%
perfect.  Vipre isn't perfect, but the product itself has proven itself
valuable in our environment and continues to do so (even with issues).

 

_

Cameron Cooper

Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Inc

Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com

 

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 3:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

 

My point was really that all AV vendors have experience FPs, not just
Vipre.

 

I agree that statistics can be a valuable tool, it's just that which
ones you choose and how you present them can be misleading.  For
example, in a horse race between the US and Russia, the US horse won.
In the American papers, it was reported that the US was took first
place.  In the Russian papers, it was reported that the US was next to
last and that Russia was second place.  The statistics reported in both
cases were true, but the picture they gave of the race was very
different.

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 3:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

 

True, but there were people on the VIPRE forum that were hit just as
hard by a couple of the FPs that VIPRE had.  I'm not knocking VIPRE at
all - I like it a lot and would purchase it again with no hesitation.

 

However, when a well known organization like Virus Bulletin publishes
test results, it makes sense to look at the data and try to understand
what it means and how it may impact your organization.   I personally
feel confident with Sunbelt, but I would be interested to understand how
they interpret the chart and what they feel the implications are for
their product.

 

By the way, some lies may be statistics, but not all statistics are
lies.  Information, including statistical, is the basis for sound
decision making.

 



From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

 

How about a little perspective on false positives?

 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20003074-83.html

 

and a reminder about statistics from Mark Twain:

there's 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics

 

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

 

I've had VIPRE for a couple of years now, and was fortunately not hit
hard with the false positive problems others have had.  With about 180
Win XP machines, I've had only a half dozen infections in that time -
all but one of the rogue AV kind, so I have been feeling pretty good.

 

However, the chart that was linked to is a bit worrying - the only
popular business class AV solution that scored worse was CA (my former
solution), and most of the others - McAfee, ESET, Kaspersky, Sophos to
name a few - show significantly better results.

 

It would be interesting to hear a comment from Sunbelt - a little
reassurance needed here. :-)  

 

 



From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

 

I don't know what you have now, but I can tell you from experience at
various client sites over the last year or so, none of the following was
without issues :  Trend, McAfee, Symantec SAV  SEP

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com
wrote:

For all of you staunch Vipre supporters, I'm just wondering, are you
still so staunch given the various false positives over the past year?
It seems like I remember reading here about one every quarter or so, and
I can confirm at least 3 since (from online records and messages I
didn't delete) since June 2009.  And how many of you have had to deal
with infections despite having an up-to-date Vipre?

 

Issue I'm debating is a switch from another product to Vipre, and even
though the price is very good, I'm looking at the Virusbtn RAP quadrant
(http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/rap-index.xml) with a very poor showing
for Sunbelt.   Including the false positives and cost of switching, it
doesn't add up to a good choice.  At least if the protection was much
better, then the occasional false positive might be justified.   Is
there any 3rd party comparison or statistic that gives Vipre a better
than average result?

 

I'm not looking for endorsements or praise for their tech support -
heard that all before.  But if you've had Vipre on 10 

RE: It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread Maglinger, Paul
It's just been a rough week.  People on vacation and I can't get
anything done on my projects.  I'm hoping to get out on the water this
weekend and recharge for next week.

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's that day!

 


Anyway, for those of us who feel our career is in the crapper- 

I had to replace one of those on Sysadmin Appreciation Day a few years
back. 
-- 
richard 

Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote on 07/30/2010 09:11:52 AM:

 Just got an email from a co-worker. 
 Happy S.A.D. 
   
 Ironic? 
   
   
 From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:03 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day! 
   
 So it's worth 25cents?  Starbucks is $2 here. 
 I like that miserable stuff from Mickey D's  ($1) 
   
 From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:47 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day! 
   
 This, and $1.75 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. 
 And there was much rejoicing. yea... 
   
 From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:10 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: It's that day! 
   
 
 http://www.sysadminday.com/ 
 
 And my Help Desk guy got the day off!
 -- 
 Richard 
   
   
   
   
 
 
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RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

2010-07-30 Thread Free, Bob
They still don't scale

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

There are TCP syslog options.

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 01:50, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
 We are implementing this in an even bigger environment. However syslog runs
 over UDP (natively) and it’s not reliable. You’d need to use software that
 gives you more reliability (e.g. by sending the traffic over TCP) if you
 need this to produce reliable log files centrally.



 Cheers

 Ken



 From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
 Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 3:50 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 800+ servers to a syslog? Plus going to have to put agents on every single
 server in the domain? Really haven’t used Syslog much for the windows event
 logging



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

 Cell:401-639-3505



 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:48 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 EventCombMT still works... :)



 Why not export all the logs to SysLog, and spend a few tiny dollars on
 searching those logs?

 Syslog servers are cheap/free.
 Syslog forwarders for Windows are cheap/free.
 Tools to search consolidated logs range from free to exorbitant.   See
 Splunk on both accounts. :)



 Once you have established the value of log parsing and management, you'll
 have a slightly better chance of procuring some funds.



 -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

 Naa its far harder than that, I think someone said we can dump the event
 logs via powershell, but using EventCombMT when I need to get something I
 hope still works. Either that or I am going to have to bug MGMT again about
 a dedicated eventlog management tool.



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

 Cell:401-639-3505



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:36 PM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 Tough gig then. Looks like you're going to be doing a lot of creative stuff
 with dumpel.exe and the findstr command :-)

 On 28 July 2010 13:06, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

 I don’t have SCOM, I wish I had some event log auditing solution, been
 asking for 5+ yrs, and all it ever falls on is deaf ears….



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

 Cell:401-639-3505



 From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:29 PM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 Have you looked in to using the Audit Collection Services piece of SCOM? I
 think ACS could be valuable for security event reporting and forensics use.



 -Malcolm



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 15:41
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 I'm mainly interested in account lockouts, logons attempted under things
 like built-in administrator accounts, high numbers of logon failures, and
 any attempts to modify security policies and/or protected groups (such as
 local admins, domain admins, server ops, and the like). We've also got
 certain areas where file access is audited.

 I use SCOM to try and aggregate the events for me. This is quite handy, as
 it also monitors things like failed su to root on our ESX servers and other
 stuff outside of the Windows event logging arena.

 On 27 July 2010 20:15, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

 Hey gang, well I wanted to ask the group, what is everyone doing about their
 audit policies on Windows 2008 R2 for domain controllers or member servers.



 I have mapped out all the audit categories and sub-categories, and events,
 but I don’t want the logs to turn into soup, so kinda wanted to see what
 others were doing for which categories and subcategories they turned on
 auditing for. Would be nice to bounce some ideas off about certain events. (
 Already plowed through M$ site descriptions, the Microsoft Security Resource
 Kit and Randy Franklin Smith’s Eventlog site)



 Feel free to post here, or if you like catch me offline, love to hear the
 feedback.  After this its on to Firewall rules accordingly for the servers
 and either scripting or GPOing that out for a baseline.



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 

FW: Wireless Machine Authentication

2010-07-30 Thread Kelsey, John
All Cisco LWAP access points using a 5508 wireless controller.  We have
PEAP set up so users can authenticate on the wireless network using
their AD login...peachy.

 

BUT...we have some machines that need to authenticate on the wireless
before the user logs on (so they get can group policies and such).  I
thought we could just provide a generic credential and it would work but
no such luck.  How the heck do you make this work?  The workstations are
XP SP3 with intel wireless cards.

 

Thanks all!

 

*
John C. Kelsey
DuBois Regional Medical Center
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2  :   814.375.4005
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RE: It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
I'd say, more like oxym-oronic

 

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's that day!

 

Just got an email from a co-worker.

Happy S.A.D.

 

Ironic?

 

 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's that day!

 

So it's worth 25cents?  Starbucks is $2 here.

I like that miserable stuff from Mickey D's  ($1)

 

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's that day!

 

This, and $1.75 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

And there was much rejoicing. yea...

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: It's that day!

 


http://www.sysadminday.com/ 

And my Help Desk guy got the day off!
-- 
Richard 

 

 

 

 



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RE: Wireless Machine Authentication

2010-07-30 Thread Ken Cornetet
We use EAP-TLS authenticating to Microsoft's IAS. The workstations all have a 
machine certificate generated by an internal certificate server. Workstations 
authenticate and connect to wireless before the user ever logs in.

From: Kelsey, John [mailto:jckel...@drmc.org]
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 10:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FW: Wireless Machine Authentication

All Cisco LWAP access points using a 5508 wireless controller.  We have PEAP 
set up so users can authenticate on the wireless network using their AD 
login...peachy.

BUT...we have some machines that need to authenticate on the wireless before 
the user logs on (so they get can group policies and such).  I thought we could 
just provide a generic credential and it would work but no such luck.  How the 
heck do you make this work?  The workstations are XP SP3 with intel wireless 
cards.

Thanks all!

*
John C. Kelsey
DuBois Regional Medical Center
*:  814.375.3073
*  :   814.375.4005
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RE: OT: Vipre effectiveness false positives

2010-07-30 Thread Carl Houseman
I can understand FP's against lesser used applications, but when part of
Windows or a commonly installed MS product is tagged, there's no real excuse
for that IMHO.

 

Still, I've asked Alex to provide any comparison data he can come up with,
and to the extent the evidence is unbiased and convincing, I may put forth
Vipre as an alternative.

 

Thanks everybody for all the feedback.  

 

Carl

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 2:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

 

As I have stated in previous AV threads, I actually use/manage 3 different AV
products: Vipre Enterprise (3 clients, ~25 systems, plus my home machines),
Trend WorryFree (1 client, 55 systems) and McAfee (%dayjob%, ~500 systems)
and Vipre easily has more false positives  than the other two: 3 in the last
12 months, vs zero for Trend and McAfee. Twice it ate Outlook.exe, one other
time it ate Iexplore.exe. Not enough to make we want to switch from Vipre,
just offering a data point.

 

A bit over a year ago Vipre replaced Trend at home (1 server, 3PC's),
Symantec at a client of 17, and standalone McAfee at a client of 7, no major
issues transitioning any of them. There were enough teething pains (FP's)
early on to prevent me from replacing it at the bigger client as well as
%dayjob%.

 

I avoided the recent McAfee fiasco because I grab updates ~20 hours after
they typcically release, didn't know Trend had one recently.

 

Alternately, none of these sites have had infections requiring a HDD wipe.

 

Dave

 

  _  

From: Ralph Smith m...@gatewayindustries.org
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

I don't disagree, but when you are presented with information you have to
evaluate the validity of the data, and hopefully get clarification from those
involved when it implies that there may be a problem.  Virus Bulletin
actually warned in the explanation of the chart that it was just one result
and that conclusions shouldn't be jumped to until there was more data.  

 

And sometimes, a horse is just a horse, of course.

 

 

  _  

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 4:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

My point was really that all AV vendors have experience FPs, not just Vipre.

 

I agree that statistics can be a valuable tool, it's just that which ones you
choose and how you present them can be misleading.  For example, in a horse
race between the US and Russia, the US horse won.  In the American papers, it
was reported that the US was took first place.  In the Russian papers, it was
reported that the US was next to last and that Russia was second place.  The
statistics reported in both cases were true, but the picture they gave of the
race was very different.

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 3:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

 

True, but there were people on the VIPRE forum that were hit just as hard by
a couple of the FPs that VIPRE had.  I'm not knocking VIPRE at all - I like
it a lot and would purchase it again with no hesitation.

 

However, when a well known organization like Virus Bulletin publishes test
results, it makes sense to look at the data and try to understand what it
means and how it may impact your organization.   I personally feel confident
with Sunbelt, but I would be interested to understand how they interpret the
chart and what they feel the implications are for their product.

 

By the way, some lies may be statistics, but not all statistics are lies.
Information, including statistical, is the basis for sound decision making.

 

  _  

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

 

How about a little perspective on false positives?

 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20003074-83.html

 

and a reminder about statistics from Mark Twain:

there's 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics

 

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness  false positives

 

I've had VIPRE for a couple of years now, and was fortunately not hit hard
with the false positive problems others have had.  With about 180 Win XP
machines, I've had only a half dozen infections in that time - all but one of
the rogue AV kind, so I have been feeling pretty good.

 

However, the chart that was linked to is a bit worrying - the only popular
business class AV solution that scored worse was CA (my former solution), and
most of the others - McAfee, ESET, Kaspersky, Sophos to name a 

RE: It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread tony patton
I got offered a new job today, so I'm happy :)

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Support Analyst - Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:   richardmccl...@aspca.org
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:   30/07/2010 15:22
Subject:RE: It's that day!




Anyway, for those of us who feel our career is in the crapper- 

I had to replace one of those on Sysadmin Appreciation Day a few years 
back. 
-- 
richard 

Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote on 07/30/2010 09:11:52 AM:

 Just got an email from a co-worker. 
 ?Happy S.A.D.? 
   
 Ironic? 
   
   
 From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:03 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day! 
   
 So it?s worth 25cents?  Starbucks is $2 here. 
 I like that miserable stuff from Mickey D?s  ($1) 
   
 From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:47 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day! 
   
 This, and $1.75 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. 
 And there was much rejoicing. yea??. 
   
 From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:10 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: It's that day! 
   
 
 http://www.sysadminday.com/ 
 
 And my Help Desk guy got the day off!
 -- 
 Richard 
   
   
   
   
 
 
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Hyper-V and 'Default Gateway'

2010-07-30 Thread Stephen Wimberly
Is it possible to use a different default gateway on one Hyper-V guest
than the Hyper-V host is using?

What I have is a situation where we have multiple IP ranges within the
same network meaning there is no router nor firewall between the
different IP segments, but each IP subnet is different so I have
multiple default gateways.  let's say the first is 192.168.0.1 with a
mask of 255.255.255.192 and the second would be 192.168.0.70 / mask of
255.255.255.192.

In short I have tried all kinds of configurations but i can't seem to
get a connection using any other gateway address, and it would make
sense that it should agree with the host, but I cant find anywhere to
'verify' that!

I have found many documents telling me that all the virtual servers on
a Hyper-V host must be in the same network but no where does it
define the parameters of the network!

(Each of my Hyper-V guests are pointed directly at a physical network
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Re: It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread Roger Wright
Congrats!


Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___




On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:26 AM, tony patton
tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com wrote:
 I got offered a new job today, so I'm happy :)

 Regards

 Tony Patton
 Desktop Support Analyst - Cavan
 Ext 8078
 Direct Dial 049 435 2878
 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



 From:        richardmccl...@aspca.org
 To:        NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Date:        30/07/2010 15:22
 Subject:        RE: It's that day!
 



 Anyway, for those of us who feel our career is in the crapper-

 I had to replace one of those on Sysadmin Appreciation Day a few years back.
 --
 richard

 Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote on 07/30/2010 09:11:52 AM:

 Just got an email from a co-worker.
 “Happy S.A.D.”

 Ironic?


 From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:03 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day!

 So it’s worth 25cents?  Starbucks is $2 here.
 I like that miserable stuff from Mickey D’s  ($1)

 From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:47 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day!

 This, and $1.75 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
 And there was much rejoicing.     yea…….

 From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:10 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: It's that day!


 http://www.sysadminday.com/

 And my Help Desk guy got the day off!
 --
 Richard






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Re: It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread Don Kuhlman
Congrats Tony! Hopefully some of that good fortune will rub off :)

Don K





From: tony patton tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 10:26:40 AM
Subject: RE: It's that day!

I got offered a new job today, so I'm happy :) 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Support Analyst - Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 



From:        richardmccl...@aspca.org 
To:        NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:        30/07/2010 15:22 
Subject:        RE: It's that day! 





Anyway, for those of us who feel our career is in the crapper-

I had to replace one of those on Sysadmin Appreciation Day a few years back.
--
richard

Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote on 07/30/2010 09:11:52 AM:

 Just got an email from a co-worker.
 “Happy S.A.D.”
  
 Ironic?
  
  
 From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:03 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day!
  
 So it’s worth 25cents?  Starbucks is $2 here.
 I like that miserable stuff from Mickey D’s  ($1)
  
 From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:47 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day!
  
 This, and $1.75 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
 And there was much rejoicing.     yea…….
  
 From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:10 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: It's that day!
  
 
 http://www.sysadminday.com/
 
 And my Help Desk guy got the day off!
 -- 
 Richard 
  
  
  
  
 
 
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RE: It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread John Aldrich
Congrats!

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's that day!

 

I got offered a new job today, so I'm happy :) 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Support Analyst - Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 



From:richardmccl...@aspca.org 
To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:30/07/2010 15:22 
Subject:RE: It's that day! 

  _  





Anyway, for those of us who feel our career is in the crapper- 

I had to replace one of those on Sysadmin Appreciation Day a few years back.

-- 
richard 

Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote on 07/30/2010 09:11:52 AM:

 Just got an email from a co-worker. 
 Happy S.A.D. 
   
 Ironic? 
   
   
 From: Brumbaugh, Luke [ mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com
mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:03 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day! 
   
 So it's worth 25cents?  Starbucks is $2 here. 
 I like that miserable stuff from Mickey D's  ($1) 
   
 From: Maglinger, Paul [ mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com
mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:47 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day! 
   
 This, and $1.75 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. 
 And there was much rejoicing. yea... 
   
 From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [ mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org
mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:10 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: It's that day! 
   
 
  http://www.sysadminday.com/ http://www.sysadminday.com/ 
 
 And my Help Desk guy got the day off!
 -- 
 Richard 
   
   
   
   
 
 
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Re: It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread tony patton
Thx folks, hope it rubs off on everyone else that needs/wants it :)

Its an advancement career-wise, moving to full-time server support with 
another company.
It's a bit of a pay-cut, but it'll pay off in the long term, the new 
company will provide a new challenge and the technologies that they are 
involved in are wide-ranging.

A busy schedule ahead of me, finish up here on the 10th September, 
re-locate, start the new job, and twins on the way Xmas week.
Fun times ahead :)

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Support Analyst - Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:   Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:   30/07/2010 16:50
Subject:Re: It's that day!



Congrats Tony! Hopefully some of that good fortune will rub off :)
 
Don K

From: tony patton tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 10:26:40 AM
Subject: RE: It's that day!

I got offered a new job today, so I'm happy :) 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Support Analyst - Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 



From:richardmccl...@aspca.org 
To:NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:30/07/2010 15:22 
Subject:RE: It's that day! 




Anyway, for those of us who feel our career is in the crapper- 

I had to replace one of those on Sysadmin Appreciation Day a few years 
back. 
-- 
richard 

Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote on 07/30/2010 09:11:52 AM:

 Just got an email from a co-worker. 
 ?Happy S.A.D.? 
   
 Ironic? 
   
   
 From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:03 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day! 
   
 So it?s worth 25cents?  Starbucks is $2 here. 
 I like that miserable stuff from Mickey D?s  ($1) 
   
 From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:47 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day! 
   
 This, and $1.75 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. 
 And there was much rejoicing. yea??. 
   
 From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:10 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: It's that day! 
   
 
 http://www.sysadminday.com/ 
 
 And my Help Desk guy got the day off!
 -- 
 Richard 
   
   
   
   
 
 
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RE: It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Congrats Tony!

 

From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It's that day!

 

I got offered a new job today, so I'm happy :) 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Support Analyst - Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 



From:richardmccl...@aspca.org 
To:NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:30/07/2010 15:22 
Subject:RE: It's that day! 







Anyway, for those of us who feel our career is in the crapper- 

I had to replace one of those on Sysadmin Appreciation Day a few years
back. 
-- 
richard 

Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote on 07/30/2010 09:11:52 AM:

 Just got an email from a co-worker. 
 Happy S.A.D. 
   
 Ironic? 
   
   
 From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com
mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com ] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:03 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day! 
   
 So it's worth 25cents?  Starbucks is $2 here. 
 I like that miserable stuff from Mickey D's  ($1) 
   
 From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com
mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com ] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:47 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day! 
   
 This, and $1.75 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. 
 And there was much rejoicing. yea... 
   
 From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org
mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org ] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:10 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: It's that day! 
   
 
 http://www.sysadminday.com/ http://www.sysadminday.com/  
 
 And my Help Desk guy got the day off!
 -- 
 Richard 
   
   
   
   
 
 
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Re: It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread James Kerr
Too bad I cant drink coffee, even decaf, due to MY BLEEDING ULCER!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Maglinger, Paul 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:46 AM
  Subject: RE: It's that day!


  This, and $1.75 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

  And there was much rejoicing. yea...

   

  From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
  Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:10 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: It's that day!

   


  http://www.sysadminday.com/ 

  And my Help Desk guy got the day off!
  -- 
  Richard 

   

 


 

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Re: It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread James Kerr
Tony, are you an Irishman?
  - Original Message - 
  From: tony patton 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: It's that day!


  Thx folks, hope it rubs off on everyone else that needs/wants it :) 

  Its an advancement career-wise, moving to full-time server support with 
another company. 
  It's a bit of a pay-cut, but it'll pay off in the long term, the new company 
will provide a new challenge and the technologies that they are involved in are 
wide-ranging. 

  A busy schedule ahead of me, finish up here on the 10th September, re-locate, 
start the new job, and twins on the way Xmas week. 
  Fun times ahead :) 

  Regards

  Tony Patton
  Desktop Support Analyst - Cavan
  Ext 8078
  Direct Dial 049 435 2878
  email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 



  From:Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com 
  To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
  Date:30/07/2010 16:50 
  Subject:Re: It's that day! 

--



  Congrats Tony! Hopefully some of that good fortune will rub off :) 

  Don K 


--
  From: tony patton tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com
  To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 10:26:40 AM
  Subject: RE: It's that day!

  I got offered a new job today, so I'm happy :) 

  Regards

  Tony Patton
  Desktop Support Analyst - Cavan
  Ext 8078
  Direct Dial 049 435 2878
  email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 



  From:richardmccl...@aspca.org 
  To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
  Date:30/07/2010 15:22 
  Subject:RE: It's that day! 

--




  Anyway, for those of us who feel our career is in the crapper- 

  I had to replace one of those on Sysadmin Appreciation Day a few years back. 
  -- 
  richard 

  Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote on 07/30/2010 09:11:52 AM:

   Just got an email from a co-worker. 
   Happy S.A.D. 
 
   Ironic? 
 
 
   From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
   Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:03 AM
   To: NT System Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: It's that day! 
 
   So it's worth 25cents?  Starbucks is $2 here. 
   I like that miserable stuff from Mickey D's  ($1) 
 
   From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
   Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:47 AM
   To: NT System Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: It's that day! 
 
   This, and $1.75 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. 
   And there was much rejoicing. yea... 
 
   From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
   Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:10 AM
   To: NT System Admin Issues
   Subject: It's that day! 
 
   
   http://www.sysadminday.com/ 
   
   And my Help Desk guy got the day off!
   -- 
   Richard 
 
 
 
 
   
   
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Re: It's that day!

2010-07-30 Thread Don Kuhlman
And congrats on the Twins too Tony! Woohooo





From: tony patton tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 10:59:37 AM
Subject: Re: It's that day!

Thx folks, hope it rubs off on everyone else that needs/wants it :) 

Its an advancement career-wise, moving to full-time server support with another 
company. 

It's a bit of a pay-cut, but it'll pay off in the long term, the new company 
will provide a new challenge and the technologies that they are involved in are 
wide-ranging. 


A busy schedule ahead of me, finish up here on the 10th September, re-locate, 
start the new job, and twins on the way Xmas week. 

Fun times ahead :) 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Support Analyst - Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 



From:        Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com 
To:        NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:        30/07/2010 16:50 
Subject:        Re: It's that day! 




Congrats Tony! Hopefully some of that good fortune will rub off :) 
  
Don K 


From: tony patton tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 10:26:40 AM
Subject: RE: It's that day!

I got offered a new job today, so I'm happy :)

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Support Analyst - Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:        richardmccl...@aspca.org
To:        NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:        30/07/2010 15:22
Subject:        RE: It's that day!






Anyway, for those of us who feel our career is in the crapper-

I had to replace one of those on Sysadmin Appreciation Day a few years back.
--
richard

Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote on 07/30/2010 09:11:52 AM:

 Just got an email from a co-worker.
 “Happy S.A.D.”
  
 Ironic?
  
  
 From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:03 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day!
  
 So it’s worth 25cents?  Starbucks is $2 here.
 I like that miserable stuff from Mickey D’s  ($1)
  
 From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:47 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: It's that day!
  
 This, and $1.75 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
 And there was much rejoicing.     yea…….
  
 From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:10 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: It's that day!
  
 
 http://www.sysadminday.com/
 
 And my Help Desk guy got the day off!
 -- 
 Richard 
  
  
  
  
 
 
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Symantec Power Eraser ???

2010-07-30 Thread Erik Goldoff
Has anyone evaluated this tool yet ?  They position it alongside
Malwarebytes as a supplementary tool to their primary (SEP) software, but
state it is aggressive and errs towards the side of false positives 

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

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Re: Hyper-V and 'Default Gateway'

2010-07-30 Thread Andrew S. Baker
The problem is not that the host address is different, but that the gateway
address is not on the same subnet as the machine's IP address.

The machine had to be able to figure out how to reach its default gateway,
so it cannot be on a different subnet.


-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

Sent from my Motorola Droid

On Jul 30, 2010 11:27 AM, Stephen Wimberly swimbe...@gmail.com wrote:

Is it possible to use a different default gateway on one Hyper-V guest
than the Hyper-V host is using?

What I have is a situation where we have multiple IP ranges within the
same network meaning there is no router nor firewall between the
different IP segments, but each IP subnet is different so I have
multiple default gateways.  let's say the first is 192.168.0.1 with a
mask of 255.255.255.192 and the second would be 192.168.0.70 / mask of
255.255.255.192.

In short I have tried all kinds of configurations but i can't seem to
get a connection using any other gateway address, and it would make
sense that it should agree with the host, but I cant find anywhere to
'verify' that!

I have found many documents telling me that all the virtual servers on
a Hyper-V host must be in the same network but no where does it
define the parameters of the network!

(Each of my Hyper-V guests are pointed directly at a physical network
card on the host, they are _not_ NATed)

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RE: Hyper-V and 'Default Gateway'

2010-07-30 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
The short story is that although the two IP subnets may be on the same
physical segment (or virtual physical segment), they are not on
the same IP subnet or, as you call it, network.  Therefore, there has to
be a router with an interface on each subnet to act as the default
gateway to the other subnet.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Wimberly [mailto:swimbe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Hyper-V and 'Default Gateway'

Is it possible to use a different default gateway on one Hyper-V guest
than the Hyper-V host is using?

What I have is a situation where we have multiple IP ranges within the
same network meaning there is no router nor firewall between the
different IP segments, but each IP subnet is different so I have
multiple default gateways.  let's say the first is 192.168.0.1 with a
mask of 255.255.255.192 and the second would be 192.168.0.70 / mask of
255.255.255.192.

In short I have tried all kinds of configurations but i can't seem to
get a connection using any other gateway address, and it would make
sense that it should agree with the host, but I cant find anywhere to
'verify' that!

I have found many documents telling me that all the virtual servers on
a Hyper-V host must be in the same network but no where does it
define the parameters of the network!

(Each of my Hyper-V guests are pointed directly at a physical network
card on the host, they are _not_ NATed)

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Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

2010-07-30 Thread Kurt Buff
The systems I've seen described don't depend on a single syslog server
- it's usually a set of them, and the data is aggregated. to a central
repository.

Mind you, I've not worked in a large scale environment, but discussion
on lists like the one at loganalysis.org has been interesting.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 07:34, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote:
 They still don't scale

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:26 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

 There are TCP syslog options.

 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 01:50, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
 We are implementing this in an even bigger environment. However syslog runs
 over UDP (natively) and it’s not reliable. You’d need to use software that
 gives you more reliability (e.g. by sending the traffic over TCP) if you
 need this to produce reliable log files centrally.



 Cheers

 Ken



 From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
 Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 3:50 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 800+ servers to a syslog? Plus going to have to put agents on every single
 server in the domain? Really haven’t used Syslog much for the windows event
 logging



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

 Cell:401-639-3505



 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:48 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 EventCombMT still works... :)



 Why not export all the logs to SysLog, and spend a few tiny dollars on
 searching those logs?

 Syslog servers are cheap/free.
 Syslog forwarders for Windows are cheap/free.
 Tools to search consolidated logs range from free to exorbitant.   See
 Splunk on both accounts. :)



 Once you have established the value of log parsing and management, you'll
 have a slightly better chance of procuring some funds.



 -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

 Naa its far harder than that, I think someone said we can dump the event
 logs via powershell, but using EventCombMT when I need to get something I
 hope still works. Either that or I am going to have to bug MGMT again about
 a dedicated eventlog management tool.



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

 Cell:401-639-3505



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:36 PM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 Tough gig then. Looks like you're going to be doing a lot of creative stuff
 with dumpel.exe and the findstr command :-)

 On 28 July 2010 13:06, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

 I don’t have SCOM, I wish I had some event log auditing solution, been
 asking for 5+ yrs, and all it ever falls on is deaf ears….



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

 Cell:401-639-3505



 From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:29 PM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 Have you looked in to using the Audit Collection Services piece of SCOM? I
 think ACS could be valuable for security event reporting and forensics use.



 -Malcolm



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 15:41
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 I'm mainly interested in account lockouts, logons attempted under things
 like built-in administrator accounts, high numbers of logon failures, and
 any attempts to modify security policies and/or protected groups (such as
 local admins, domain admins, server ops, and the like). We've also got
 certain areas where file access is audited.

 I use SCOM to try and aggregate the events for me. This is quite handy, as
 it also monitors things like failed su to root on our ESX servers and other
 stuff outside of the Windows event logging arena.

 On 27 July 2010 20:15, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

 Hey gang, well I wanted to ask the group, what is everyone doing about their
 audit policies on Windows 2008 R2 for domain controllers or member servers.



 I have mapped out all the audit categories and sub-categories, and events,
 but I don’t want the logs to turn into soup, so kinda wanted to see what
 others were doing for which categories and subcategories they turned on
 auditing for. Would be nice to bounce some ideas off about certain events. (
 Already plowed through M$ site descriptions, the 

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Thanks Man

 

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RE: Your copy of “Networking and Security for Dummies

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Thanks a bunch.

 

Although… they talk about hubs… when was this written?!

 

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RE: Your copy of ?Networking and Security for Dummies

2010-07-30 Thread RichardMcClary
Hubs are still out there!  Years ago, some folks did a great job of hiding 
them, like over ceilings, etc for workgroups.
--
richard

gro...@beachcomp.com wrote on 07/30/2010 02:54:20 PM:

 Thanks a bunch.
 
 Although? they talk about hubs? when was this written?!
 
 From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 3:47 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Your copy of ?Networking and Security for Dummies
 
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RE: Your copy of “Networking and Security for Dummies

2010-07-30 Thread Erik Goldoff
Hubs caught your attention but not RING TOPOLOGY ???   LOL !

 

 

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Re: Your copy of ?Networking and Security for Dummies

2010-07-30 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:55 PM,  richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:
 Hubs are still out there!

  Maybe they're using hub in the classic sense, to mean the
equipment in the center of any star topology network.

  ... You're not buying it, are you?

  Me neither.

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Re: Symantec Power Eraser ???

2010-07-30 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has anyone evaluated this tool yet ?

  What does it do, erase all Symantec products?  That might be useful...

-- Ben

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RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

2010-07-30 Thread Free, Bob
Yea, we have a grid of LogLogic appliances, they are quite cool for pure syslog 
from the *NIX boxes, IDS, routers, switches, firewalls etc.

Managing agents on thousands of Windows systems is another story and a  major 
PITA on all the implementations I've seen. Syslog is cool for what it was 
originally designed for but it is going to be hard to convince me it is an 
enterprise solution for Windows security logs, the myriad auditing options and 
the data they contain. Heck, it was unmanageable with the W2K* audit framework, 
the new one in 2K8 is an order of magnitude more complicated.

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

The systems I've seen described don't depend on a single syslog server
- it's usually a set of them, and the data is aggregated. to a central
repository.

Mind you, I've not worked in a large scale environment, but discussion
on lists like the one at loganalysis.org has been interesting.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 07:34, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote:
 They still don't scale

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:26 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

 There are TCP syslog options.

 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 01:50, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
 We are implementing this in an even bigger environment. However syslog runs
 over UDP (natively) and it’s not reliable. You’d need to use software that
 gives you more reliability (e.g. by sending the traffic over TCP) if you
 need this to produce reliable log files centrally.



 Cheers

 Ken



 From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
 Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 3:50 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 800+ servers to a syslog? Plus going to have to put agents on every single
 server in the domain? Really haven’t used Syslog much for the windows event
 logging



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

 Cell:401-639-3505



 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:48 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 EventCombMT still works... :)



 Why not export all the logs to SysLog, and spend a few tiny dollars on
 searching those logs?

 Syslog servers are cheap/free.
 Syslog forwarders for Windows are cheap/free.
 Tools to search consolidated logs range from free to exorbitant.   See
 Splunk on both accounts. :)



 Once you have established the value of log parsing and management, you'll
 have a slightly better chance of procuring some funds.



 -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

 Naa its far harder than that, I think someone said we can dump the event
 logs via powershell, but using EventCombMT when I need to get something I
 hope still works. Either that or I am going to have to bug MGMT again about
 a dedicated eventlog management tool.



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

 Cell:401-639-3505



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:36 PM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 Tough gig then. Looks like you're going to be doing a lot of creative stuff
 with dumpel.exe and the findstr command :-)

 On 28 July 2010 13:06, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

 I don’t have SCOM, I wish I had some event log auditing solution, been
 asking for 5+ yrs, and all it ever falls on is deaf ears….



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

 Cell:401-639-3505



 From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:29 PM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 Have you looked in to using the Audit Collection Services piece of SCOM? I
 think ACS could be valuable for security event reporting and forensics use.



 -Malcolm



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 15:41
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 I'm mainly interested in account lockouts, logons attempted under things
 like built-in administrator accounts, high numbers of logon failures, and
 any attempts to modify security policies and/or protected groups (such as
 local admins, domain admins, server ops, and the like). We've also got
 certain areas where file 

RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

2010-07-30 Thread Free, Bob
They are also in cleartext which always bothers me with authentication
logs, I can often correlate passwords to user IDs by looking at failed
logins in DC logs where the user accidentally puts their password in the
user name box. It appears way more often than some might think,
especially when a lot of disparate systems with slightly different login
interfaces use AD for authN.

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

 

We are implementing this in an even bigger environment. However syslog
runs over UDP (natively) and it's not reliable. You'd need to use
software that gives you more reliability (e.g. by sending the traffic
over TCP) if you need this to produce reliable log files centrally.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 3:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

 

800+ servers to a syslog? Plus going to have to put agents on every
single server in the domain? Really haven't used Syslog much for the
windows event logging 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

 

EventCombMT still works... :)

 

Why not export all the logs to SysLog, and spend a few tiny dollars on
searching those logs?

*   Syslog servers are cheap/free.   
*   Syslog forwarders for Windows are cheap/free.
*   Tools to search consolidated logs range from free to exorbitant.
See Splunk on both accounts. :)

 

Once you have established the value of log parsing and management,
you'll have a slightly better chance of procuring some funds.

 

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org
wrote:

Naa its far harder than that, I think someone said we can dump the event
logs via powershell, but using EventCombMT when I need to get something
I hope still works. Either that or I am going to have to bug MGMT again
about a dedicated eventlog management tool. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org mailto:email%3aezi...@lifespan.org 

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:36 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

 

Tough gig then. Looks like you're going to be doing a lot of creative
stuff with dumpel.exe and the findstr command :-)

On 28 July 2010 13:06, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

I don't have SCOM, I wish I had some event log auditing solution, been
asking for 5+ yrs, and all it ever falls on is deaf ears

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org mailto:email%3aezi...@lifespan.org 

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:29 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

 

Have you looked in to using the Audit Collection Services piece of SCOM?
I think ACS could be valuable for security event reporting and forensics
use.

 

-Malcolm

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 15:41
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

 

I'm mainly interested in account lockouts, logons attempted under things
like built-in administrator accounts, high numbers of logon failures,
and any attempts to modify security policies and/or protected groups
(such as local admins, domain admins, server ops, and the like). We've
also got certain areas where file access is audited.

I use SCOM to try and aggregate the events for me. This is quite handy,
as it also monitors things like failed su to root on our ESX servers and
other stuff outside of the Windows event logging arena.

On 27 July 2010 20:15, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

Hey gang, well I wanted to ask the group, what is everyone doing about
their audit policies on Windows 2008 R2 for domain controllers or member
servers. 

 

I have mapped out all the audit categories and sub-categories, and
events, but I don't want the logs to turn into soup, so kinda wanted to
see what others were doing for which categories and subcategories they
turned on auditing for. Would be nice to bounce some ideas off about
certain events. ( Already plowed through M$ site descriptions, the
Microsoft Security Resource Kit and Randy Franklin Smith's Eventlog
site)

 

Feel free 

RE: Symantec Power Eraser ???

2010-07-30 Thread Free, Bob
 What does it do, erase all Symantec products?  That might be useful...

LOL. 

Made me think of the old axiom that the only solution one ever needed
for Symantec was fdisk :-]

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 1:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Symantec Power Eraser ???

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Has anyone evaluated this tool yet ?

  What does it do, erase all Symantec products?  That might be useful...

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Hyper-V and 'Default Gateway'

2010-07-30 Thread Stephen Wimberly
Thanks for the replies!  Now I just need to beg our network team for
addresses in the same subnet!!!

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: Your copy of ?Networking and Security for Dummies

2010-07-30 Thread Don Kuhlman
I just did a quick scan - date says 2010 - wow that is a bit funny using those 
old legacy terms, but they are also saying hubs are older, rings are gone, 
buses 
are out of favor...

It may be a compilation of stuff which is why there are some outdated terms in 
there...not sure.

Hopefully the later stuff will be more helpful like the case study, etc. for a 
quick reference or overview.

Don K



- Original Message 
From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 3:39:19 PM
Subject: Re: Your copy of ?Networking and Security for Dummies

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:55 PM,  richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:
 Hubs are still out there!

  Maybe they're using hub in the classic sense, to mean the
equipment in the center of any star topology network.

  ... You're not buying it, are you?

  Me neither.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



  


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

2010-07-30 Thread Kurt Buff
Care to elaborate on that a bit? What about the complication makes
syslog a poor choice for you? Is it line length limitations, sheer
volume, client software management or something else?

Kurt

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 13:40, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote:
 Yea, we have a grid of LogLogic appliances, they are quite cool for pure 
 syslog from the *NIX boxes, IDS, routers, switches, firewalls etc.

 Managing agents on thousands of Windows systems is another story and a  major 
 PITA on all the implementations I've seen. Syslog is cool for what it was 
 originally designed for but it is going to be hard to convince me it is an 
 enterprise solution for Windows security logs, the myriad auditing options 
 and the data they contain. Heck, it was unmanageable with the W2K* audit 
 framework, the new one in 2K8 is an order of magnitude more complicated.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:08 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

 The systems I've seen described don't depend on a single syslog server
 - it's usually a set of them, and the data is aggregated. to a central
 repository.

 Mind you, I've not worked in a large scale environment, but discussion
 on lists like the one at loganalysis.org has been interesting.

 On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 07:34, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote:
 They still don't scale

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:26 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

 There are TCP syslog options.

 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 01:50, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
 We are implementing this in an even bigger environment. However syslog runs
 over UDP (natively) and it’s not reliable. You’d need to use software that
 gives you more reliability (e.g. by sending the traffic over TCP) if you
 need this to produce reliable log files centrally.



 Cheers

 Ken



 From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
 Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 3:50 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 800+ servers to a syslog? Plus going to have to put agents on every single
 server in the domain? Really haven’t used Syslog much for the windows event
 logging



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

 Cell:401-639-3505



 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:48 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 EventCombMT still works... :)



 Why not export all the logs to SysLog, and spend a few tiny dollars on
 searching those logs?

 Syslog servers are cheap/free.
 Syslog forwarders for Windows are cheap/free.
 Tools to search consolidated logs range from free to exorbitant.   See
 Splunk on both accounts. :)



 Once you have established the value of log parsing and management, you'll
 have a slightly better chance of procuring some funds.



 -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

 Naa its far harder than that, I think someone said we can dump the event
 logs via powershell, but using EventCombMT when I need to get something I
 hope still works. Either that or I am going to have to bug MGMT again about
 a dedicated eventlog management tool.



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

 Cell:401-639-3505



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:36 PM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 Tough gig then. Looks like you're going to be doing a lot of creative stuff
 with dumpel.exe and the findstr command :-)

 On 28 July 2010 13:06, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

 I don’t have SCOM, I wish I had some event log auditing solution, been
 asking for 5+ yrs, and all it ever falls on is deaf ears….



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

 Cell:401-639-3505



 From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:29 PM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 Have you looked in to using the Audit Collection Services piece of SCOM? I
 think ACS could be valuable for security event reporting and forensics use.



 -Malcolm



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 15:41
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 I'm mainly interested in account lockouts, logons 

RE: Symantec Power Eraser ???

2010-07-30 Thread Steven M. Caesare
+10

Well played sir... well played.

-sc

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 4:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Symantec Power Eraser ???

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Has anyone evaluated this tool yet ?

  What does it do, erase all Symantec products?  That might be useful...

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Your copy of “Networking and Security f or Dummies

2010-07-30 Thread Don Kuhlman
Sure thing - enjoy your weekend folks!

Don K





From: gro...@beachcomp.com gro...@beachcomp.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 2:52:42 PM
Subject: RE: Your copy of “Networking and Security for Dummies


Thanks Man
 
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Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 3:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Your copy of “Networking and Security for Dummies
 
Not sure if anyone's interested but thought I would share...could be good for 
educating non-technical type folks or just a review of some basics...
 
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RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

2010-07-30 Thread Free, Bob
I have at least 4 or 5 times in this thread I believe ;-]

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 2:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

Care to elaborate on that a bit? What about the complication makes
syslog a poor choice for you? Is it line length limitations, sheer
volume, client software management or something else?

Kurt

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 13:40, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote:
 Yea, we have a grid of LogLogic appliances, they are quite cool for pure 
 syslog from the *NIX boxes, IDS, routers, switches, firewalls etc.

 Managing agents on thousands of Windows systems is another story and a  major 
 PITA on all the implementations I've seen. Syslog is cool for what it was 
 originally designed for but it is going to be hard to convince me it is an 
 enterprise solution for Windows security logs, the myriad auditing options 
 and the data they contain. Heck, it was unmanageable with the W2K* audit 
 framework, the new one in 2K8 is an order of magnitude more complicated.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:08 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

 The systems I've seen described don't depend on a single syslog server
 - it's usually a set of them, and the data is aggregated. to a central
 repository.

 Mind you, I've not worked in a large scale environment, but discussion
 on lists like the one at loganalysis.org has been interesting.

 On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 07:34, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote:
 They still don't scale

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:26 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

 There are TCP syslog options.

 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 01:50, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
 We are implementing this in an even bigger environment. However syslog runs
 over UDP (natively) and it’s not reliable. You’d need to use software that
 gives you more reliability (e.g. by sending the traffic over TCP) if you
 need this to produce reliable log files centrally.



 Cheers

 Ken



 From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
 Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 3:50 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 800+ servers to a syslog? Plus going to have to put agents on every single
 server in the domain? Really haven’t used Syslog much for the windows event
 logging



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

 Cell:401-639-3505



 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:48 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 EventCombMT still works... :)



 Why not export all the logs to SysLog, and spend a few tiny dollars on
 searching those logs?

 Syslog servers are cheap/free.
 Syslog forwarders for Windows are cheap/free.
 Tools to search consolidated logs range from free to exorbitant.   See
 Splunk on both accounts. :)



 Once you have established the value of log parsing and management, you'll
 have a slightly better chance of procuring some funds.



 -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

 Naa its far harder than that, I think someone said we can dump the event
 logs via powershell, but using EventCombMT when I need to get something I
 hope still works. Either that or I am going to have to bug MGMT again about
 a dedicated eventlog management tool.



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

 Cell:401-639-3505



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:36 PM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 Tough gig then. Looks like you're going to be doing a lot of creative stuff
 with dumpel.exe and the findstr command :-)

 On 28 July 2010 13:06, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

 I don’t have SCOM, I wish I had some event log auditing solution, been
 asking for 5+ yrs, and all it ever falls on is deaf ears….



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

 Cell:401-639-3505



 From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:29 PM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 Have you looked in to using the Audit Collection Services piece of SCOM? I
 think ACS could be valuable for security event reporting and 

RE: Vipre false positives?

2010-07-30 Thread Alex Eckelberry
This is actually a really good idea.


From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:an...@geoapps.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: Alex Eckelberry
Subject: Re: Vipre false positives?

On 26 Jul 2010 at 9:08, Jeff Cain wrote:

 These should have been addressed in def version 6636. If not please let 
 us know right
 away.

IMHO VIPRE needs a Rescan Quarantined Files option -- an auto-recover from 
FP feature.

The Rescan should allow us to select, from the console, an agent or set of 
agents, and allow us to tell each agent to rescan its quarantined items using 
the current set of defs, which presumably has corrected the FP.  There should 
be an option to unquarantine -- to restore -- anything that scans clean, with 
an option to email the report to the administrator either way. There should be 
an option to time-limit the items being rescanned so we only scan a given date 
range, this would allow us to limit the scanning to the last day or week of 
quarantined items.  We should be able to schedule the rescan, too, so the scan 
happens when it won't interfere with work.

This would allow us to recover easily from an episode of False Positives that 
erroneously quarantines files on multiple systems (as long as those systems are 
still bootable and the VSE Agent is running there).  It is tolerable if you 
have a few machines with FPs.  I can't imagine cleaning up an FP episode on 
hundreds of machines.

We all understand that all AV products either suffer from FPs or infections 
that get by.  I'd rather have the FPs, but having a Rescan Quarantine would 
really set VIPRE apart from other AV products.  I don't know of any other 
product which offers this.

Discussion welcome.

Angus

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

2010-07-30 Thread Kurt Buff
Sigh - yes you did, twice anyway. Can anyone tell I'm having a distracted day?

Agent management and change control would have been a nightmare.

servers and agents must have automatic failover and agents must be
deployable by SMS/SCCM and centrally manageable

Those two seem to be stating the same thing in different ways.

If your environment were *nix, I'd suggest chef/cfengine/puppet/bcfg,
but I haven't seen any real success stories with any of those on
Windows platforms.

Kurt

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 15:23, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote:
 I have at least 4 or 5 times in this thread I believe ;-]

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 2:45 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

 Care to elaborate on that a bit? What about the complication makes
 syslog a poor choice for you? Is it line length limitations, sheer
 volume, client software management or something else?

 Kurt

 On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 13:40, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote:
 Yea, we have a grid of LogLogic appliances, they are quite cool for pure 
 syslog from the *NIX boxes, IDS, routers, switches, firewalls etc.

 Managing agents on thousands of Windows systems is another story and a  
 major PITA on all the implementations I've seen. Syslog is cool for what it 
 was originally designed for but it is going to be hard to convince me it is 
 an enterprise solution for Windows security logs, the myriad auditing 
 options and the data they contain. Heck, it was unmanageable with the W2K* 
 audit framework, the new one in 2K8 is an order of magnitude more 
 complicated.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:08 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

 The systems I've seen described don't depend on a single syslog server
 - it's usually a set of them, and the data is aggregated. to a central
 repository.

 Mind you, I've not worked in a large scale environment, but discussion
 on lists like the one at loganalysis.org has been interesting.

 On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 07:34, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote:
 They still don't scale

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:26 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?

 There are TCP syslog options.

 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 01:50, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
 We are implementing this in an even bigger environment. However syslog runs
 over UDP (natively) and it’s not reliable. You’d need to use software that
 gives you more reliability (e.g. by sending the traffic over TCP) if you
 need this to produce reliable log files centrally.



 Cheers

 Ken



 From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
 Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 3:50 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 800+ servers to a syslog? Plus going to have to put agents on every single
 server in the domain? Really haven’t used Syslog much for the windows event
 logging



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

 Cell:401-639-3505



 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:48 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 EventCombMT still works... :)



 Why not export all the logs to SysLog, and spend a few tiny dollars on
 searching those logs?

 Syslog servers are cheap/free.
 Syslog forwarders for Windows are cheap/free.
 Tools to search consolidated logs range from free to exorbitant.   See
 Splunk on both accounts. :)



 Once you have established the value of log parsing and management, you'll
 have a slightly better chance of procuring some funds.



 -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

 Naa its far harder than that, I think someone said we can dump the event
 logs via powershell, but using EventCombMT when I need to get something I
 hope still works. Either that or I am going to have to bug MGMT again about
 a dedicated eventlog management tool.



 Z



 Edward E. Ziots

 CISSP, Network +, Security +

 Network Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

 Cell:401-639-3505



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:36 PM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: Re: Auditing in Windows 2008 and R2 what are folks doing?



 Tough gig then. Looks like you're going to be doing a lot of creative stuff
 with dumpel.exe and the findstr command :-)

 On 28 July 2010 13:06, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

 I don’t have SCOM, I wish I had some event log auditing 

Re: Vipre false positives?

2010-07-30 Thread Kurt Buff
Agreed.

I just got done submitting (several days late) to virustotal.com a set
of .LNK files that were marked on our file server. By the time I had
submitted them, nobody thought that they were dangerous (except esafe,
which is really weird.)

They were marked as report only, so it was no big deal, but if I'd had
to rescue them, it would have been more interesting.

Kurt

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 15:52, Alex Eckelberry
al...@sunbelt-software.com wrote:
 This is actually a really good idea.





 From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:an...@geoapps.com]
 Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:43 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Cc: Alex Eckelberry
 Subject: Re: Vipre false positives?



 On 26 Jul 2010 at 9:08, Jeff Cain wrote:



 These should have been addressed in def version 6636. If not please
 let us know right

 away.



 IMHO VIPRE needs a Rescan Quarantined Files option -- an auto-recover
 from FP feature.



 The Rescan should allow us to select, from the console, an agent or set of
 agents, and allow us to tell each agent to rescan its quarantined items
 using the current set of defs, which presumably has corrected the FP.  There
 should be an option to unquarantine -- to restore -- anything that scans
 clean, with an option to email the report to the administrator either way.
 There should be an option to time-limit the items being rescanned so we only
 scan a given date range, this would allow us to limit the scanning to the
 last day or week of quarantined items.  We should be able to schedule the
 rescan, too, so the scan happens when it won't interfere with work.



 This would allow us to recover easily from an episode of False Positives
 that erroneously quarantines files on multiple systems (as long as those
 systems are still bootable and the VSE Agent is running there).  It is
 tolerable if you have a few machines with FPs.  I can't imagine cleaning up
 an FP episode on hundreds of machines.



 We all understand that all AV products either suffer from FPs or infections
 that get by.  I'd rather have the FPs, but having a Rescan Quarantine
 would really set VIPRE apart from other AV products.  I don't know of any
 other product which offers this.



 Discussion welcome.



 Angus





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RE: 2008 DC being offline

2010-07-30 Thread Brian Desmond
You'll be fine. Unless you've tinkered with the tombstone lifetime, even on 
Windows 2000 built domains you've got a 60 day TSL.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

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-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: 2008 DC being offline

Hello,
A 2008 DC (lets call it Server-F) we have at another site has been offline for 
6 weeks.  We powered it down because the building was undergoing construction, 
and the building was effectively CLOSED for those 6 weeks. 
Construction is done and I'm ready to bring the server back online. 

Is there a problem with just turning Server-F on and letting it re-sync with 
active directory even though its been offline for 6 weeks?  or...
would I be better off bringing Server-F up WITHOUT a network cable connected, 
run dcpromo /forceremoval on it... then remove any references to the Server-F 
from my other DCs, and eventually re-promote server F back as a DC?

Thoughts?



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RE: setspn persistence

2010-07-30 Thread Brian Desmond
Well I assure you it's a persistent change so you've got something modifying 
this and taking it out. You should turn on auditing of the 
servicePrincipalNames attribute and enable DS Access auditing on your DCs.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132



-Original Message-
From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: setspn persistence

I'm decommissioning some servers, and to ease the transition, since we have 
some old code that is hardcoded with old server names, I'm going through the 
motions of setting up CNAME DNS records to point any queries to the old server 
to the new server, set up the key in 
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\lanmanserver for 
DisableStrictNameChecking to 0x1, set up the key in 
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa for DisableLoopBackCheck to 0x1, and 
then finally used the setspn tool to add SPNs to the new replacement server so 
it will happily accept and authenticate clients that are asking for resources 
and generating Kerberos tickets for the old server name.

Problem is that the setspn additions aren't holding as persistent... Every so 
often they just disappear...  During this transition I don't want to make this 
really ugly by having a scheduled task to run a batch file every minute to add 
these SPNs, so is there a way to force these entries as persistent?

I know this is a severe hack but I'm trying to make my job easy with this 
transition, I'm stretched pretty thin these days :-(



Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107



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RE: Possible Rogue device on the network

2010-07-30 Thread Brian Desmond
ARP tables are a layer above what you're troubleshooting. You need to look at 
the actual layer 2 switching/mac address tables.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132


From: Fergal O'Connell [mailto:foconn...@curamsoftware.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Possible Rogue device on the network

HI Folks,

We are having a sporadic network issue on our LAN which I am currently trouble 
shooting -
I ran a wire shark capture on one of the hosts that is affected and I want to 
know what the following is
I can't find  that Mac address on our network.
I checked the DHCP and I checked the arp table on all our switches and routers.
MAC - 00:0f:1f:30:26:e3 is assigned to WW PCBA Test
What I want to is find this device and turn off STP.

Any idea's?

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RE: 2008 DC being offline

2010-07-30 Thread Brian Desmond
30 days not unless you tinkered with some tombstone lifetime settings which I 
don't know why you would lower it...

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

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-Original Message-
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2008 DC being offline

Past 30 days offline it will complain - at least 2003 servers do, but I think 
it's also related to some AD archive or backup time settingI ran into 
something about 30 days when I restored a DC from a backup that was 36 days old.

Minor in the scheme of things, just something to keep in mind.

...Then again, maybe that was of no help...

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764



-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: 2008 DC being offline

Hello,
A 2008 DC (lets call it Server-F) we have at another site has been offline
for 6 weeks.  We powered it down because the building was undergoing
construction, and the building was effectively CLOSED for those 6 weeks. 
Construction is done and I'm ready to bring the server back online. 

Is there a problem with just turning Server-F on and letting it re-sync
with active directory even though its been offline for 6 weeks?  or...
would I be better off bringing Server-F up WITHOUT a network cable
connected, run dcpromo /forceremoval on it... then remove any references to
the Server-F from my other DCs, and eventually re-promote server F back as
a DC?

Thoughts?



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RE: Symantec Power Eraser ???

2010-07-30 Thread Erik Goldoff
OK, that would be a resounding NO …

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 2:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec Power Eraser ???

 

Has anyone evaluated this tool yet ?  They position it alongside
Malwarebytes as a supplementary tool to their primary (SEP) software, but
state it is aggressive and errs towards the side of false positives 

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

 

 

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Re: Your copy of ?Networking and Security for Dummies

2010-07-30 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 30 Jul 2010 at 14:55, richardmccl...@aspca.org  wrote:

 Hubs are still out there! Years ago, some folks did a great job of 
 hiding them, like over ceilings, etc for workgroups. 

I've heard some motels use them since they're cheaper than switches.

Download without form here:
http://lto.libredigital.com/?SonicWALL_Dell_GettingStartedwithNetworkingandSecurityforDummies

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