RE: Drobo experiences
Plus Buffalo performance used to be pretty rubbish. Fortunately I was saved from the poor performance of the Terastation when it bricked itself during an upgrade, I then went down the Infrant ReadyNas route for some cheap network storage at home, and have been happy since :) From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: 04 April 2011 17:57 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Drobo experiences +1 on the buffalo comment. I have yet to try a QNap, but they do look impressive from a distance. ASB (Professional Biohttp://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) Technology Services that Maximize Business Results... On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:55 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: QNAP baby, I've come to loath the Buffalo products and their apparent inability to configure NTFS share permissions. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.commailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Drobo experiences i am looking at some cheap disk archive too...looked at the drobo and the dlink but I think am going to get a Buffalo Terra pro...1U, 8TB ... On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Directly supporting Drobo devices is new to me - but in the past two weeks I have come to the conclusion that these things are not worth the support headaches. Particularly it seems, when dealing with DroboShare attached equipment. I'm repeatedly seeing delays, timeouts, and outright connectivity drops. Does anyone have any insight into similar issues, or (hopefully) anything to the contrary? Thanks! -- ME2 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. QinetiQ may monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the purposes of security. QinetiQ Limited (Registered in England Wales: Company Number: 3796233) Registered office: Cody Technology Park, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX http://www.qinetiq.com. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Drobo experiences
I have a Drobo Pro FS at $WORK. I wish I didn't. Writes to it are excruciatingly slow. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Matthew B Ames matthew.a...@qinetiq.comwrote: Plus Buffalo performance used to be pretty rubbish. Fortunately I was saved from the poor performance of the Terastation when it bricked itself during an upgrade, I then went down the Infrant ReadyNas route for some cheap network storage at home, and have been happy since J *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 04 April 2011 17:57 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Drobo experiences +1 on the buffalo comment. I have yet to try a QNap, but they do look impressive from a distance. *ASB *(Professional Bio http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) *Technology Services that Maximize Business Results...** * * * On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:55 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: QNAP baby, I’ve come to loath the Buffalo products and their apparent inability to configure NTFS share permissions. *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 12:55 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Drobo experiences i am looking at some cheap disk archive too...looked at the drobo and the dlink but I think am going to get a Buffalo Terra pro...1U, 8TB ... On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Directly supporting Drobo devices is new to me - but in the past two weeks I have come to the conclusion that these things are not worth the support headaches. Particularly it seems, when dealing with DroboShare attached equipment. I'm repeatedly seeing delays, timeouts, and outright connectivity drops. Does anyone have any insight into similar issues, or (hopefully) anything to the contrary? Thanks! -- ME2 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. QinetiQ may monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the purposes of security. QinetiQ Limited (Registered in England Wales: Company Number: 3796233) Registered office: Cody Technology Park, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX http://www.qinetiq.com. http://www.qinetiq.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests
Harry, It would be impossible to use the guest-based initiator like the MS software initiator or the EQL Hit kit to connect the OS drive, because, as I understand it, the software initiator doesn't load until the OS boots. Any other drives can be connected via the MS software initiator quite well (or the EQL hit kit). Vmware definitely supports running the msiSCSI initiator inside a guest that is hosted in an ESX server connected via the VM initiators to a VMFS store. the answer to your second question about connecting data drives (sql data/logs, exchange stores) via the host initiator from a VMFS store breaks the EQL technology because the EQL stuff works on the EQL hit kit extensions to work. what was the best option between attaching all drives as VMFS from the host initiator, or attaching the data drives via guest-based initiator using the MS or EQL initiators is the subject of my original post, and the consensus so far from all the replies has been a resounding it depends... LOL What other posters have suggested, and what the guys in my shop decided, was to test both ways using a solid tool to measure the performance of the disk subsystem, like IOMeter, perfmon, or in my case, some of the Longitude Monitoring system's tools. From: Harry Singh [hbo...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Those using the guest iSCSI initatior inside VM guests, are you using that to connect all the drives? OS, Data, logs, DBs ? I don't have the specific reference, but I always thought VMware didn't off support running the MS iSCSI initiator inside a guest windows server VM whose host connects to a VMFS datastore via iSCSI. Those using EQL's -- using VMware's native iSCSI initiator to create disk breaks the app-aware snapshot feature? This is interesting since my existing archeticture, as a result of a reduced feature-set SAN, has always been to create VMFS datastores for new disks. Specifically for exchange 2010 and SQL. H On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.commailto:k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: Thanks, I saw that, and just got the slide deck today. Like you and others have pointed out, there’s definitely pros and cons for either choice. From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Something else you made me remember. If you plan to do MPIO at the Host level then your VMFS disks will be able to take advantage of that. EQ just had a good webex about MPIO at the host level vs. guest level a couple weeks ago, below is the recording. https://dellenterprise.webex.com/ec0605l/eventcenter/recording/recordAction.do?theAction=poprecordactname=%2Feventcenter%2Fframe%2Fg.doapiname=lsr.phprenewticket=0renewticket=0actappname=ec0605lentappname=url0107lneedFilter=falseisurlact=trueentactname=%2FnbrRecordingURL.dorID=42187702rKey=bed3095e1947d127recordID=42187702rnd=1623196772siteurl=dellenterpriseSP=ECAT=pbformat=short From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edumailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests File Servers are a bit questionable, but for SQL/Exchange it depends on if you want to use the features of the ASMME for it. If you plan to present any VMFS from the ESX hosts though, definitely install the ESX DSM. If you do VMFS for SQL/Exchange, make sure the virtual SCSI adaptor is the paravirtualized one as it can make a big difference on boxes with heavy IO requirements. DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033tel:317.447.6033 (office) 317.217.6851tel:317.217.6851 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.commailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 1:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests There will be some of each type that you mentioned. File services, SQL 2005/2008, Exchange 2010. I agree that there’s some advantages to be gained using the EQL HIT kits, both in the guest and the ESX servers. From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests We use option two here, there are a lot of very good EQ/Dell best practice white papers dealing with this exact topic. You didn't say what's going to be running on your servers. File, SQL, Exchange, etc. But if you don't do iSCSI inside the guest you lose all capability to make use of the integrated EQ tools for snapping DB's etc. The folks that say to use VMFS partitions for everything are probably using SAN's that don't have the capabilities your EQ's do.
Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests
Thanks for the input. I've stayed away from using the MS iSCSI initatiator for connecting data drives, but it's good to know it actually is supported. I'm working with Dell in pricing an EQL SAN and have to say I have been really impressed with the feature-set so far. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.comwrote: Harry, It would be impossible to use the guest-based initiator like the MS software initiator or the EQL Hit kit to connect the OS drive, because, as I understand it, the software initiator doesn't load until the OS boots. Any other drives can be connected via the MS software initiator quite well (or the EQL hit kit). Vmware definitely supports running the msiSCSI initiator inside a guest that is hosted in an ESX server connected via the VM initiators to a VMFS store. the answer to your second question about connecting data drives (sql data/logs, exchange stores) via the host initiator from a VMFS store breaks the EQL technology because the EQL stuff works on the EQL hit kit extensions to work. what was the best option between attaching all drives as VMFS from the host initiator, or attaching the data drives via guest-based initiator using the MS or EQL initiators is the subject of my original post, and the consensus so far from all the replies has been a resounding it depends... LOL What other posters have suggested, and what the guys in my shop decided, was to test both ways using a solid tool to measure the performance of the disk subsystem, like IOMeter, perfmon, or in my case, some of the Longitude Monitoring system's tools. -- *From:* Harry Singh [hbo...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 3:30 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Those using the guest iSCSI initatior inside VM guests, are you using that to connect all the drives? OS, Data, logs, DBs ? I don't have the specific reference, but I always thought VMware didn't off support running the MS iSCSI initiator inside a guest windows server VM whose host connects to a VMFS datastore via iSCSI. Those using EQL's -- using VMware's native iSCSI initiator to create disk breaks the app-aware snapshot feature? This is interesting since my existing archeticture, as a result of a reduced feature-set SAN, has always been to create VMFS datastores for new disks. Specifically for exchange 2010 and SQL. H On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.comwrote: Thanks, I saw that, and just got the slide deck today. Like you and others have pointed out, there’s definitely pros and cons for either choice. *From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 12:25 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Something else you made me remember. If you plan to do MPIO at the Host level then your VMFS disks will be able to take advantage of that. EQ just had a good webex about MPIO at the host level vs. guest level a couple weeks ago, below is the recording. https://dellenterprise.webex.com/ec0605l/eventcenter/recording/recordAction.do?theAction=poprecordactname=%2Feventcenter%2Fframe%2Fg.doapiname=lsr.phprenewticket=0renewticket=0actappname=ec0605lentappname=url0107lneedFilter=falseisurlact=trueentactname=%2FnbrRecordingURL.dorID=42187702rKey=bed3095e1947d127recordID=42187702rnd=1623196772siteurl=dellenterpriseSP=ECAT=pbformat=short -- *From:* Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 12:07 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests File Servers are a bit questionable, but for SQL/Exchange it depends on if you want to use the features of the ASMME for it. If you plan to present any VMFS from the ESX hosts though, definitely install the ESX DSM. If you do VMFS for SQL/Exchange, make sure the virtual SCSI adaptor is the paravirtualized one as it can make a big difference on boxes with heavy IO requirements. DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.217.6851 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE *From:* Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 1:04 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests There will be some of each type that you mentioned. File services, SQL 2005/2008, Exchange 2010. I agree that there’s some advantages to be gained using the EQL HIT kits, both in the guest and the ESX servers. *From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 11:34 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests We use option two here, there are a lot of very good EQ/Dell best practice white papers dealing with this exact topic. You didn't say what's going to be running on your servers.
RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests
Boot from iSCSI SAN is possible: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee619733(WS.10).aspx. There are some specific configuration requirements. There's a boot version of the initiator for Win2K3 as well. I've seen reports of it working within VMWare. -sc From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Harry, It would be impossible to use the guest-based initiator like the MS software initiator or the EQL Hit kit to connect the OS drive, because, as I understand it, the software initiator doesn't load until the OS boots. Any other drives can be connected via the MS software initiator quite well (or the EQL hit kit). Vmware definitely supports running the msiSCSI initiator inside a guest that is hosted in an ESX server connected via the VM initiators to a VMFS store. the answer to your second question about connecting data drives (sql data/logs, exchange stores) via the host initiator from a VMFS store breaks the EQL technology because the EQL stuff works on the EQL hit kit extensions to work. what was the best option between attaching all drives as VMFS from the host initiator, or attaching the data drives via guest-based initiator using the MS or EQL initiators is the subject of my original post, and the consensus so far from all the replies has been a resounding it depends... LOL What other posters have suggested, and what the guys in my shop decided, was to test both ways using a solid tool to measure the performance of the disk subsystem, like IOMeter, perfmon, or in my case, some of the Longitude Monitoring system's tools. From: Harry Singh [hbo...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Those using the guest iSCSI initatior inside VM guests, are you using that to connect all the drives? OS, Data, logs, DBs ? I don't have the specific reference, but I always thought VMware didn't off support running the MS iSCSI initiator inside a guest windows server VM whose host connects to a VMFS datastore via iSCSI. Those using EQL's -- using VMware's native iSCSI initiator to create disk breaks the app-aware snapshot feature? This is interesting since my existing archeticture, as a result of a reduced feature-set SAN, has always been to create VMFS datastores for new disks. Specifically for exchange 2010 and SQL. H On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: Thanks, I saw that, and just got the slide deck today. Like you and others have pointed out, there's definitely pros and cons for either choice. From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Something else you made me remember. If you plan to do MPIO at the Host level then your VMFS disks will be able to take advantage of that. EQ just had a good webex about MPIO at the host level vs. guest level a couple weeks ago, below is the recording. https://dellenterprise.webex.com/ec0605l/eventcenter/recording/recordAct ion.do?theAction=poprecordactname=%2Feventcenter%2Fframe%2Fg.doapiname =lsr.phprenewticket=0renewticket=0actappname=ec0605lentappname=url01 07lneedFilter=falseisurlact=trueentactname=%2FnbrRecordingURL.dorID =42187702rKey=bed3095e1947d127recordID=42187702rnd=1623196772siteurl =dellenterpriseSP=ECAT=pbformat=short From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests File Servers are a bit questionable, but for SQL/Exchange it depends on if you want to use the features of the ASMME for it. If you plan to present any VMFS from the ESX hosts though, definitely install the ESX DSM. If you do VMFS for SQL/Exchange, make sure the virtual SCSI adaptor is the paravirtualized one as it can make a big difference on boxes with heavy IO requirements. DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.217.6851 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 1:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests There will be some of each type that you mentioned. File services, SQL 2005/2008, Exchange 2010. I agree that there's some advantages to be gained using the EQL HIT kits, both in the guest and the ESX servers. From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests We use option two here, there are a lot of very good EQ/Dell best practice white papers dealing with this exact topic. You didn't say what's going to be running on your
APC battery tray
Any tips for getting the batteries out of the tray in an APC UPS? Our rackmount APC takes 4 batteries and they appear to be *glued* into the tray. The guy at Batteries Plus was shocked that he couldn't get 'em out with a screwdriver by prying on them. A friend on another list suggested soaking the bottom of the tray in Goo Gone, but I'm afraid that might short out the batteries or something even worse... Is that likely to be safe and does anyone have any clue what APC used to secure the batteries into the tray? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests
Boot from SAN is definitely possible within VMWare Cheers Ken From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Boot from iSCSI SAN is possible: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee619733(WS.10).aspx. There are some specific configuration requirements. There's a boot version of the initiator for Win2K3 as well. I've seen reports of it working within VMWare. -sc From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Harry, It would be impossible to use the guest-based initiator like the MS software initiator or the EQL Hit kit to connect the OS drive, because, as I understand it, the software initiator doesn't load until the OS boots. Any other drives can be connected via the MS software initiator quite well (or the EQL hit kit). Vmware definitely supports running the msiSCSI initiator inside a guest that is hosted in an ESX server connected via the VM initiators to a VMFS store. the answer to your second question about connecting data drives (sql data/logs, exchange stores) via the host initiator from a VMFS store breaks the EQL technology because the EQL stuff works on the EQL hit kit extensions to work. what was the best option between attaching all drives as VMFS from the host initiator, or attaching the data drives via guest-based initiator using the MS or EQL initiators is the subject of my original post, and the consensus so far from all the replies has been a resounding it depends... LOL What other posters have suggested, and what the guys in my shop decided, was to test both ways using a solid tool to measure the performance of the disk subsystem, like IOMeter, perfmon, or in my case, some of the Longitude Monitoring system's tools. From: Harry Singh [hbo...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Those using the guest iSCSI initatior inside VM guests, are you using that to connect all the drives? OS, Data, logs, DBs ? I don't have the specific reference, but I always thought VMware didn't off support running the MS iSCSI initiator inside a guest windows server VM whose host connects to a VMFS datastore via iSCSI. Those using EQL's -- using VMware's native iSCSI initiator to create disk breaks the app-aware snapshot feature? This is interesting since my existing archeticture, as a result of a reduced feature-set SAN, has always been to create VMFS datastores for new disks. Specifically for exchange 2010 and SQL. H On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.commailto:k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: Thanks, I saw that, and just got the slide deck today. Like you and others have pointed out, there's definitely pros and cons for either choice. From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Something else you made me remember. If you plan to do MPIO at the Host level then your VMFS disks will be able to take advantage of that. EQ just had a good webex about MPIO at the host level vs. guest level a couple weeks ago, below is the recording. https://dellenterprise.webex.com/ec0605l/eventcenter/recording/recordAction.do?theAction=poprecordactname=%2Feventcenter%2Fframe%2Fg.doapiname=lsr.phprenewticket=0renewticket=0actappname=ec0605lentappname=url0107lneedFilter=falseisurlact=trueentactname=%2FnbrRecordingURL.dorID=42187702rKey=bed3095e1947d127recordID=42187702rnd=1623196772siteurl=dellenterpriseSP=ECAT=pbformat=short From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edumailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests File Servers are a bit questionable, but for SQL/Exchange it depends on if you want to use the features of the ASMME for it. If you plan to present any VMFS from the ESX hosts though, definitely install the ESX DSM. If you do VMFS for SQL/Exchange, make sure the virtual SCSI adaptor is the paravirtualized one as it can make a big difference on boxes with heavy IO requirements. DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033tel:317.447.6033 (office) 317.217.6851tel:317.217.6851 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.commailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 1:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests There will be some of each type that you mentioned. File services, SQL 2005/2008, Exchange 2010. I agree that there's some advantages to be gained using the EQL HIT kits, both in the guest and the ESX
Re: APC battery tray
Not familiar with that one... Our 2U 3000 VA unit has their batteries locked up in a cage (and the whole cage gets replaced). In the past, APC used large areas of double-stick tape to hold individual batteries together into some battery packs. I'm rather surprised the screwdriver didn't dislodge a battery. Then again, it's his screwdriver. He's probably also aware of the bigger concern - cracking a battery case open. (Breaking that tray would probably not be a good thing, either.) I have the feeling GooGone isn't going to work. If the goo covers the entire bottom area of each battery, it will take days (weeks?) before it seeps in and loosens the goo. In the mean time, check CDW, etc for after-market replacements which would include a new tray. -- richard John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 04/05/2011 09:35 AM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com To NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Press this button if the To is a fax number. Enter in the fax number like 123-456-7890. cc Subject APC battery tray Any tips for getting the batteries out of the tray in an APC UPS? Our rackmount APC takes 4 batteries and they appear to be *glued* into the tray. The guy at Batteries Plus was shocked that he couldn't get 'em out with a screwdriver by prying on them. A friend on another list suggested soaking the bottom of the tray in Goo Gone, but I'm afraid that might short out the batteries or something even worse... Is that likely to be safe and does anyone have any clue what APC used to secure the batteries into the tray? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: APC battery tray
Is possible the batters have started to expand and are now jammed into the tray? Check the voltage across the batteries, if it 0vdc (or pretty close) then you need not really worry about them shorting out, imho. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 05 April 2011 15:34 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: APC battery tray Any tips for getting the batteries out of the tray in an APC UPS? Our rackmount APC takes 4 batteries and they appear to be *glued* into the tray. The guy at Batteries Plus was shocked that he couldn't get 'em out with a screwdriver by prying on them. A friend on another list suggested soaking the bottom of the tray in Goo Gone, but I'm afraid that might short out the batteries or something even worse... Is that likely to be safe and does anyone have any clue what APC used to secure the batteries into the tray? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. QinetiQ may monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the purposes of security. QinetiQ Limited (Registered in England Wales: Company Number: 3796233) Registered office: Cody Technology Park, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX http://www.qinetiq.com. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: APC battery tray
Guessing the tray has a ridge around the perimeter ? More than likely, the batteries have swelled and are now friction tight. Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: APC battery tray Any tips for getting the batteries out of the tray in an APC UPS? Our rackmount APC takes 4 batteries and they appear to be *glued* into the tray. The guy at Batteries Plus was shocked that he couldn't get 'em out with a screwdriver by prying on them. A friend on another list suggested soaking the bottom of the tray in Goo Gone, but I'm afraid that might short out the batteries or something even worse... Is that likely to be safe and does anyone have any clue what APC used to secure the batteries into the tray? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: APC battery tray
Yeah. It's looking like I'm going to have to replace it, tray and all, like APC intended. :-( Would you spend the extra money for the name-brand replacements (including the extra year of warranty) or go with the less expensive after-market solution that is supposed to be compatible with the RBC24 battery pack? -Original Message- From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC battery tray Is possible the batters have started to expand and are now jammed into the tray? Check the voltage across the batteries, if it 0vdc (or pretty close) then you need not really worry about them shorting out, imho. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 05 April 2011 15:34 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: APC battery tray Any tips for getting the batteries out of the tray in an APC UPS? Our rackmount APC takes 4 batteries and they appear to be *glued* into the tray. The guy at Batteries Plus was shocked that he couldn't get 'em out with a screwdriver by prying on them. A friend on another list suggested soaking the bottom of the tray in Goo Gone, but I'm afraid that might short out the batteries or something even worse... Is that likely to be safe and does anyone have any clue what APC used to secure the batteries into the tray? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. QinetiQ may monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the purposes of security. QinetiQ Limited (Registered in England Wales: Company Number: 3796233) Registered office: Cody Technology Park, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX http://www.qinetiq.com. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: eagle cam is back
We have had peregrines nesting 10 years now at our main office building in San Francisco. They are quite the local celebs. The Santa Cruz Predatory Bird Research Group (SCPBRG) http://www2.ucsc.edu/scpbrg/index.htm has had a nestcam on the nestbox for the last 6 yearrs or so that gets upward of a million hits a day at peak http://www2.ucsc.edu/scpbrg/nestcamSF.htm -Original Message- From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 7:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: eagle cam is back We have a pAir of peregrine falcons thAt perch up on a hotel downtown here. Often there is a webcam too ,I'll see if I can find the details. Sent from my iPad On 2011-04-04, at 8:29 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: Cool! Thanks for sharing... Roger Wright ___ There are plenty of charities for the homeless. Isn't it time somebody helped the homely? - Dolly Parton On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 5:57 PM, C.E. Gene Connor cege...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.ustream.tv/decoraheagles http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/04/live-eagle-cam-2011-video_n_ 844582.html -- Gene C. Misc. B.S. http://genec-lori.com/ PackRat GarageSale http://genec-lori.biz/ Genes-Computers Inc. Yulee ,Fl Established 1981, Microsoft OEM Registered member, system builder Active registered Microsoft Partner Active Charter Partner of The Association of System Builders and Integrators If you think you're beaten, Then you are! If you give up the fight, Accept it !! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: APC battery tray
Is this tray some sort of platform into which batteries are placed, wired, etc and then slid into the UPS? How high up on the batteries does this extend? Anyway, yes, many of us have had batteries swell. Our (4) oldest RM-3000VA's each have two sets of 4 batteries, and the individual batteries are unitized by double-stick foam. If just one of those batteries swells just a wee bit, it's extremely difficult to get them out of the UPS. I have had some success with some small pry bars. One time, though, I had to shut down the unit, pull it out of the rack, then undo a whole bunch of little screws to take the top off the UPS. The following is far from best practices, but we really have crappy air control in our server room (and a couple of us are begging for funding do deal with this!). Our racks lack sides, back, and doors. After the battery swell episode (which required the top being removed to get to the batteries), we leave a 1 U space above and below each UPS. Since doing this, we've had no more battery swelling events. -- richard Matthew B Ames matthew.a...@qinetiq.com 04/05/2011 09:48 AM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com To NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Press this button if the To is a fax number. Enter in the fax number like 123-456-7890. cc Subject RE: APC battery tray Is possible the batters have started to expand and are now jammed into the tray? Check the voltage across the batteries, if it 0vdc (or pretty close) then you need not really worry about them shorting out, imho. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 05 April 2011 15:34 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: APC battery tray Any tips for getting the batteries out of the tray in an APC UPS? Our rackmount APC takes 4 batteries and they appear to be *glued* into the tray. The guy at Batteries Plus was shocked that he couldn't get 'em out with a screwdriver by prying on them. A friend on another list suggested soaking the bottom of the tray in Goo Gone, but I'm afraid that might short out the batteries or something even worse... Is that likely to be safe and does anyone have any clue what APC used to secure the batteries into the tray? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. QinetiQ may monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the purposes of security. QinetiQ Limited (Registered in England Wales: Company Number: 3796233) Registered office: Cody Technology Park, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX http://www.qinetiq.com. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: APC battery tray
Whether or not an extra year of warranty is worth it or not, simply consider how much fun you've been having with this the past 2 days or so... -- richard John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 04/05/2011 09:53 AM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com To NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Press this button if the To is a fax number. Enter in the fax number like 123-456-7890. cc Subject RE: APC battery tray Yeah. It's looking like I'm going to have to replace it, tray and all, like APC intended. :-( Would you spend the extra money for the name-brand replacements (including the extra year of warranty) or go with the less expensive after-market solution that is supposed to be compatible with the RBC24 battery pack? -Original Message- From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC battery tray Is possible the batters have started to expand and are now jammed into the tray? Check the voltage across the batteries, if it 0vdc (or pretty close) then you need not really worry about them shorting out, imho. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 05 April 2011 15:34 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: APC battery tray Any tips for getting the batteries out of the tray in an APC UPS? Our rackmount APC takes 4 batteries and they appear to be *glued* into the tray. The guy at Batteries Plus was shocked that he couldn't get 'em out with a screwdriver by prying on them. A friend on another list suggested soaking the bottom of the tray in Goo Gone, but I'm afraid that might short out the batteries or something even worse... Is that likely to be safe and does anyone have any clue what APC used to secure the batteries into the tray? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. QinetiQ may monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the purposes of security. QinetiQ Limited (Registered in England Wales: Company Number: 3796233) Registered office: Cody Technology Park, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX http://www.qinetiq.com. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: APC battery tray
:-) I guess my question would be, do YOU buy name-brand batteries or are the aftermarket kits good enough? The metal tray in which these batteries reside goes up about 1/2 to 2/3 of the way on the outside. The batteries do not appear to be swollen, but they could be slightly swollen and provide just enough friction. I guess I really have nothing to lose if I use a small pry bar. After all I am currently planning on replacing the whole thing if I can't get the batteries out. :-) From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC battery tray Whether or not an extra year of warranty is worth it or not, simply consider how much fun you've been having with this the past 2 days or so... -- richard John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 04/05/2011 09:53 AM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com To NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Press this button if the To is a fax number. Enter in the fax number like 123-456-7890. cc Subject RE: APC battery tray Yeah. It's looking like I'm going to have to replace it, tray and all, like APC intended. :-( Would you spend the extra money for the name-brand replacements (including the extra year of warranty) or go with the less expensive after-market solution that is supposed to be compatible with the RBC24 battery pack? -Original Message- From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC battery tray Is possible the batters have started to expand and are now jammed into the tray? Check the voltage across the batteries, if it 0vdc (or pretty close) then you need not really worry about them shorting out, imho. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 05 April 2011 15:34 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: APC battery tray Any tips for getting the batteries out of the tray in an APC UPS? Our rackmount APC takes 4 batteries and they appear to be *glued* into the tray. The guy at Batteries Plus was shocked that he couldn't get 'em out with a screwdriver by prying on them. A friend on another list suggested soaking the bottom of the tray in Goo Gone, but I'm afraid that might short out the batteries or something even worse... Is that likely to be safe and does anyone have any clue what APC used to secure the batteries into the tray? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. QinetiQ may monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the purposes of security. QinetiQ Limited (Registered in England Wales: Company Number: 3796233) Registered office: Cody Technology Park, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX http://www.qinetiq.com. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: APC battery tray
We've had the batteries swell on our Compaq UPS's (OEM'ed by APC). Even with sufficient cooling, they can do it with age, or if you have a long outage where house HVAC is out, and the batteries are driving close to max load, that single event can do it. The battery trays in ours weren't much more than blister-packaging type plastic and some tape hold the whole affair together. Piss-poor design for replacement, if you ask me. -sc From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC battery tray Is this tray some sort of platform into which batteries are placed, wired, etc and then slid into the UPS? How high up on the batteries does this extend? Anyway, yes, many of us have had batteries swell. Our (4) oldest RM-3000VA's each have two sets of 4 batteries, and the individual batteries are unitized by double-stick foam. If just one of those batteries swells just a wee bit, it's extremely difficult to get them out of the UPS. I have had some success with some small pry bars. One time, though, I had to shut down the unit, pull it out of the rack, then undo a whole bunch of little screws to take the top off the UPS. The following is far from best practices, but we really have crappy air control in our server room (and a couple of us are begging for funding do deal with this!). Our racks lack sides, back, and doors. After the battery swell episode (which required the top being removed to get to the batteries), we leave a 1 U space above and below each UPS. Since doing this, we've had no more battery swelling events. -- richard Matthew B Ames matthew.a...@qinetiq.com 04/05/2011 09:48 AM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com To NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Press this button if the To is a fax number. Enter in the fax number like 123-456-7890. cc Subject RE: APC battery tray Is possible the batters have started to expand and are now jammed into the tray? Check the voltage across the batteries, if it 0vdc (or pretty close) then you need not really worry about them shorting out, imho. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 05 April 2011 15:34 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: APC battery tray Any tips for getting the batteries out of the tray in an APC UPS? Our rackmount APC takes 4 batteries and they appear to be *glued* into the tray. The guy at Batteries Plus was shocked that he couldn't get 'em out with a screwdriver by prying on them. A friend on another list suggested soaking the bottom of the tray in Goo Gone, but I'm afraid that might short out the batteries or something even worse... Is that likely to be safe and does anyone have any clue what APC used to secure the batteries into the tray? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. QinetiQ may monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the purposes of security. QinetiQ Limited (Registered in England Wales: Company Number: 3796233) Registered office: Cody Technology Park, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX http://www.qinetiq.com. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: APC battery tray
There's what I buy, and what Purchasing ends up getting... Besides perhaps guaranteed to last a year longer than the competitor's packs, APC also has their liability policy regarding equipment. That is, if damage is caused to all your servers because a UPS goes wack-o, APC will take care of the hardware replacement (too bad the data on those servers is worth many times that of the server itself). I believe if you use after-market batteries, that policy is voided. APC packs once had a paid mailer for return to the recyclers. Given the weight of the package, that was worth quite a bit. (Now we just drive across town to the salvage yard that handles SLA batteries.) Not _that_ big a deal, but it's annoying. -- richard John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote on 04/05/2011 10:02:01 AM: :-) I guess my question would be, do YOU buy name-brand batteries or are the aftermarket kits good enough? The metal tray in which these batteries reside goes up about 1/2 to 2/3 of the way on the outside. The batteries do not appear to be swollen, but they could be slightly swollen and provide just enough friction. I guess I really have nothing to lose if I use a small pry bar. After all I am currently planning on replacing the whole thing if I can't get the batteries out. :-) From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC battery tray Whether or not an extra year of warranty is worth it or not, simply consider how much fun you've been having with this the past 2 days or so... -- richard John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 04/05/2011 09:53 AM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com To NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Press this button if the To is a fax number. Enter in the fax number like 123-456-7890. cc Subject RE: APC battery tray Yeah. It's looking like I'm going to have to replace it, tray and all, like APC intended. :-( Would you spend the extra money for the name-brand replacements (including the extra year of warranty) or go with the less expensive after-market solution that is supposed to be compatible with the RBC24 battery pack? -Original Message- From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC battery tray Is possible the batters have started to expand and are now jammed into the tray? Check the voltage across the batteries, if it 0vdc (or pretty close) then you need not really worry about them shorting out, imho. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 05 April 2011 15:34 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: APC battery tray Any tips for getting the batteries out of the tray in an APC UPS? Our rackmount APC takes 4 batteries and they appear to be *glued* into the tray. The guy at Batteries Plus was shocked that he couldn't get 'em out with a screwdriver by prying on them. A friend on another list suggested soaking the bottom of the tray in Goo Gone, but I'm afraid that might short out the batteries or something even worse... Is that likely to be safe and does anyone have any clue what APC used to secure the batteries into the tray? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. QinetiQ may monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the purposes of security. QinetiQ Limited (Registered in England Wales: Company Number: 3796233) Registered office: Cody Technology Park, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX http://www.qinetiq.com. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: Ping Stu: KnowBe4
Looks like loading core.js, main.js, transformer.js, validator.js, and messages.js from 2ri.static.w2l.gurl.im:8000 is timing out and delaying the page load. From: bounce-9311516-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9311516-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Sam Cayze Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Ping Stu: KnowBe4 Stu, a friendly FYI, but your new site is taking forever to load. Even websiteoptimization.com is reporting a 60 second load time on a T1. I was just about to share your product with our CEO. I thought some increased user awareness would be a good measure due to the huge email breach at Epsilon recently. Thanks, Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Drawing a blank - need help
What is the Microsoft process where you can enable this on a file structure, and people access one share, and only see the folders below that they have access to? I'm using Server 2K8 R2, but it was available back in 2k3, I think... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Drawing a blank - need help
Access based enumeration Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Drawing a blank - need help What is the Microsoft process where you can enable this on a file structure, and people access one share, and only see the folders below that they have access to? I'm using Server 2K8 R2, but it was available back in 2k3, I think... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: APC battery tray
Well, I think I'll end up going back to Batteries Plus. I managed to get ahold of a long-handled pry bar and break a couple of the batteries loose... :-) Funny what happens when you use the right tool for the job. ;-) Anyway, I'm going to be getting higher capacity batteries for about half the cost of a new OEM tray of batteries... since I don't think this unit is under warranty any more, I don't think it matters which batteries I use. From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC battery tray Importance: High There's what I buy, and what Purchasing ends up getting... Besides perhaps guaranteed to last a year longer than the competitor's packs, APC also has their liability policy regarding equipment. That is, if damage is caused to all your servers because a UPS goes wack-o, APC will take care of the hardware replacement (too bad the data on those servers is worth many times that of the server itself). I believe if you use after-market batteries, that policy is voided. APC packs once had a paid mailer for return to the recyclers. Given the weight of the package, that was worth quite a bit. (Now we just drive across town to the salvage yard that handles SLA batteries.) Not _that_ big a deal, but it's annoying. -- richard John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote on 04/05/2011 10:02:01 AM: :-) I guess my question would be, do YOU buy name-brand batteries or are the aftermarket kits good enough? The metal tray in which these batteries reside goes up about 1/2 to 2/3 of the way on the outside. The batteries do not appear to be swollen, but they could be slightly swollen and provide just enough friction. I guess I really have nothing to lose if I use a small pry bar. After all I am currently planning on replacing the whole thing if I can't get the batteries out. :-) From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC battery tray Whether or not an extra year of warranty is worth it or not, simply consider how much fun you've been having with this the past 2 days or so... -- richard John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 04/05/2011 09:53 AM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com To NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Press this button if the To is a fax number. Enter in the fax number like 123-456-7890. cc Subject RE: APC battery tray Yeah. It's looking like I'm going to have to replace it, tray and all, like APC intended. :-( Would you spend the extra money for the name-brand replacements (including the extra year of warranty) or go with the less expensive after-market solution that is supposed to be compatible with the RBC24 battery pack? -Original Message- From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC battery tray Is possible the batters have started to expand and are now jammed into the tray? Check the voltage across the batteries, if it 0vdc (or pretty close) then you need not really worry about them shorting out, imho. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 05 April 2011 15:34 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: APC battery tray Any tips for getting the batteries out of the tray in an APC UPS? Our rackmount APC takes 4 batteries and they appear to be *glued* into the tray. The guy at Batteries Plus was shocked that he couldn't get 'em out with a screwdriver by prying on them. A friend on another list suggested soaking the bottom of the tray in Goo Gone, but I'm afraid that might short out the batteries or something even worse... Is that likely to be safe and does anyone have any clue what APC used to secure the batteries into the tray? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. QinetiQ may monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the purposes of security. QinetiQ Limited (Registered in England Wales: Company Number: 3796233) Registered office: Cody Technology Park, Ively Road,
Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests
It is posible, but what we've discovered is that if you have a SAN connectivity issue you've compilicated your life. We had a long term performance issue and boot to SAN would be problematic. Local storage is cheap cheap cheap. Frankly if I could I would have our Exchange in direct attached storage but it is not up to me, we must spend way more because it says 'SAN'. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Boot from SAN is definitely possible within VMWare Cheers Ken *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:01 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Boot from iSCSI SAN is possible: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee619733(WS.10).aspx. There are some specific configuration requirements. There’s a boot version of the initiator for Win2K3 as well. I’ve seen reports of it working within VMWare. -sc *From:* Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Harry, It would be impossible to use the guest-based initiator like the MS software initiator or the EQL Hit kit to connect the OS drive, because, as I understand it, the software initiator doesn't load until the OS boots. Any other drives can be connected via the MS software initiator quite well (or the EQL hit kit). Vmware definitely supports running the msiSCSI initiator inside a guest that is hosted in an ESX server connected via the VM initiators to a VMFS store. the answer to your second question about connecting data drives (sql data/logs, exchange stores) via the host initiator from a VMFS store breaks the EQL technology because the EQL stuff works on the EQL hit kit extensions to work. what was the best option between attaching all drives as VMFS from the host initiator, or attaching the data drives via guest-based initiator using the MS or EQL initiators is the subject of my original post, and the consensus so far from all the replies has been a resounding it depends... LOL What other posters have suggested, and what the guys in my shop decided, was to test both ways using a solid tool to measure the performance of the disk subsystem, like IOMeter, perfmon, or in my case, some of the Longitude Monitoring system's tools. -- *From:* Harry Singh [hbo...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 3:30 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Those using the guest iSCSI initatior inside VM guests, are you using that to connect all the drives? OS, Data, logs, DBs ? I don't have the specific reference, but I always thought VMware didn't off support running the MS iSCSI initiator inside a guest windows server VM whose host connects to a VMFS datastore via iSCSI. Those using EQL's -- using VMware's native iSCSI initiator to create disk breaks the app-aware snapshot feature? This is interesting since my existing archeticture, as a result of a reduced feature-set SAN, has always been to create VMFS datastores for new disks. Specifically for exchange 2010 and SQL. H On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: Thanks, I saw that, and just got the slide deck today. Like you and others have pointed out, there’s definitely pros and cons for either choice. *From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 12:25 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Something else you made me remember. If you plan to do MPIO at the Host level then your VMFS disks will be able to take advantage of that. EQ just had a good webex about MPIO at the host level vs. guest level a couple weeks ago, below is the recording. https://dellenterprise.webex.com/ec0605l/eventcenter/recording/recordAction.do?theAction=poprecordactname=%2Feventcenter%2Fframe%2Fg.doapiname=lsr.phprenewticket=0renewticket=0actappname=ec0605lentappname=url0107lneedFilter=falseisurlact=trueentactname=%2FnbrRecordingURL.dorID=42187702rKey=bed3095e1947d127recordID=42187702rnd=1623196772siteurl=dellenterpriseSP=ECAT=pbformat=short -- *From:* Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 12:07 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests File Servers are a bit questionable, but for SQL/Exchange it depends on if you want to use the features of the ASMME for it. If you plan to present any VMFS from the ESX hosts though, definitely install the ESX DSM. If you do VMFS for SQL/Exchange, make sure the virtual SCSI adaptor is the paravirtualized one as it can make a big difference on boxes with heavy IO requirements. DAMIEN
Re: APC battery tray
And I can vouch that APC will stand behind the warranty. I had 4 PC's replaced by them several years ago after a power issue following a hurricane. It was about a 30 minute process to validate the connections and infrasturture with them over the phone but they came through with a check within a couple weeks. Roger Wright ___ There are plenty of charities for the homeless. Isn't it time somebody helped the homely? - Dolly Parton On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:10 AM, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote: There's what I buy, and what Purchasing ends up getting... Besides perhaps guaranteed to last a year longer than the competitor's packs, APC also has their liability policy regarding equipment. That is, if damage is caused to all your servers because a UPS goes wack-o, APC will take care of the hardware replacement (too bad the data on those servers is worth many times that of the server itself). I believe if you use after-market batteries, that policy is voided. APC packs once had a paid mailer for return to the recyclers. Given the weight of the package, that was worth quite a bit. (Now we just drive across town to the salvage yard that handles SLA batteries.) Not _that_ big a deal, but it's annoying. -- richard John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote on 04/05/2011 10:02:01 AM: :-) I guess my question would be, do YOU buy name-brand batteries or are the aftermarket kits good enough? The metal tray in which these batteries reside goes up about 1/2 to 2/3 of the way on the outside. The batteries do not appear to be swollen, but they could be slightly swollen and provide just enough friction. I guess I really have nothing to lose if I use a small pry bar. After all I am currently planning on replacing the whole thing if I can't get the batteries out. :-) From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC battery tray Whether or not an extra year of warranty is worth it or not, simply consider how much fun you've been having with this the past 2 days or so... -- richard John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 04/05/2011 09:53 AM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com To NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Press this button if the To is a fax number. Enter in the fax number like 123-456-7890. cc Subject RE: APC battery tray Yeah. It's looking like I'm going to have to replace it, tray and all, like APC intended. :-( Would you spend the extra money for the name-brand replacements (including the extra year of warranty) or go with the less expensive after-market solution that is supposed to be compatible with the RBC24 battery pack? -Original Message- From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC battery tray Is possible the batters have started to expand and are now jammed into the tray? Check the voltage across the batteries, if it 0vdc (or pretty close) then you need not really worry about them shorting out, imho. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 05 April 2011 15:34 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: APC battery tray Any tips for getting the batteries out of the tray in an APC UPS? Our rackmount APC takes 4 batteries and they appear to be *glued* into the tray. The guy at Batteries Plus was shocked that he couldn't get 'em out with a screwdriver by prying on them. A friend on another list suggested soaking the bottom of the tray in Goo Gone, but I'm afraid that might short out the batteries or something even worse... Is that likely to be safe and does anyone have any clue what APC used to secure the batteries into the tray? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. QinetiQ may monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the purposes of security. QinetiQ Limited (Registered in England Wales: Company Number: 3796233) Registered office: Cody Technology Park, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX http://www.qinetiq.com. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests
The issue with local storage on VMware is that it makes Vmotion problematic. J The general recommendation is to present shared storage to your ESX hosts (iSCSI, FC, NFS) and create VMFS volumes for your guests. As far as they know it's local storage then. DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.217.6851 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests It is posible, but what we've discovered is that if you have a SAN connectivity issue you've compilicated your life. We had a long term performance issue and boot to SAN would be problematic. Local storage is cheap cheap cheap. Frankly if I could I would have our Exchange in direct attached storage but it is not up to me, we must spend way more because it says 'SAN'. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Boot from SAN is definitely possible within VMWare Cheers Ken From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Boot from iSCSI SAN is possible: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee619733(WS.10).aspx. There are some specific configuration requirements. There's a boot version of the initiator for Win2K3 as well. I've seen reports of it working within VMWare. -sc From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Harry, It would be impossible to use the guest-based initiator like the MS software initiator or the EQL Hit kit to connect the OS drive, because, as I understand it, the software initiator doesn't load until the OS boots. Any other drives can be connected via the MS software initiator quite well (or the EQL hit kit). Vmware definitely supports running the msiSCSI initiator inside a guest that is hosted in an ESX server connected via the VM initiators to a VMFS store. the answer to your second question about connecting data drives (sql data/logs, exchange stores) via the host initiator from a VMFS store breaks the EQL technology because the EQL stuff works on the EQL hit kit extensions to work. what was the best option between attaching all drives as VMFS from the host initiator, or attaching the data drives via guest-based initiator using the MS or EQL initiators is the subject of my original post, and the consensus so far from all the replies has been a resounding it depends... LOL What other posters have suggested, and what the guys in my shop decided, was to test both ways using a solid tool to measure the performance of the disk subsystem, like IOMeter, perfmon, or in my case, some of the Longitude Monitoring system's tools. From: Harry Singh [hbo...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Those using the guest iSCSI initatior inside VM guests, are you using that to connect all the drives? OS, Data, logs, DBs ? I don't have the specific reference, but I always thought VMware didn't off support running the MS iSCSI initiator inside a guest windows server VM whose host connects to a VMFS datastore via iSCSI. Those using EQL's -- using VMware's native iSCSI initiator to create disk breaks the app-aware snapshot feature? This is interesting since my existing archeticture, as a result of a reduced feature-set SAN, has always been to create VMFS datastores for new disks. Specifically for exchange 2010 and SQL. H On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: Thanks, I saw that, and just got the slide deck today. Like you and others have pointed out, there's definitely pros and cons for either choice. From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Something else you made me remember. If you plan to do MPIO at the Host level then your VMFS disks will be able to take advantage of that. EQ just had a good webex about MPIO at the host level vs. guest level a couple weeks ago, below is the recording. https://dellenterprise.webex.com/ec0605l/eventcenter/recording/recordAct ion.do?theAction=poprecordactname=%2Feventcenter%2Fframe%2Fg.doapiname =lsr.phprenewticket=0renewticket=0actappname=ec0605lentappname=url01 07lneedFilter=falseisurlact=trueentactname=%2FnbrRecordingURL.dorID =42187702rKey=bed3095e1947d127recordID=42187702rnd=1623196772siteurl =dellenterpriseSP=ECAT=pbformat=short From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues
Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests
*Local storage is cheap cheap cheap.* If price is the only consideration, then sure. *ASB *(Professional Bio http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) *Technology Services that Maximize Business Results... * On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: It is posible, but what we've discovered is that if you have a SAN connectivity issue you've compilicated your life. We had a long term performance issue and boot to SAN would be problematic. Local storage is cheap cheap cheap. Frankly if I could I would have our Exchange in direct attached storage but it is not up to me, we must spend way more because it says 'SAN'. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Boot from SAN is definitely possible within VMWare Cheers Ken *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:01 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Boot from iSCSI SAN is possible: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee619733(WS.10).aspx. There are some specific configuration requirements. There’s a boot version of the initiator for Win2K3 as well. I’ve seen reports of it working within VMWare. -sc *From:* Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Harry, It would be impossible to use the guest-based initiator like the MS software initiator or the EQL Hit kit to connect the OS drive, because, as I understand it, the software initiator doesn't load until the OS boots. Any other drives can be connected via the MS software initiator quite well (or the EQL hit kit). Vmware definitely supports running the msiSCSI initiator inside a guest that is hosted in an ESX server connected via the VM initiators to a VMFS store. the answer to your second question about connecting data drives (sql data/logs, exchange stores) via the host initiator from a VMFS store breaks the EQL technology because the EQL stuff works on the EQL hit kit extensions to work. what was the best option between attaching all drives as VMFS from the host initiator, or attaching the data drives via guest-based initiator using the MS or EQL initiators is the subject of my original post, and the consensus so far from all the replies has been a resounding it depends... LOL What other posters have suggested, and what the guys in my shop decided, was to test both ways using a solid tool to measure the performance of the disk subsystem, like IOMeter, perfmon, or in my case, some of the Longitude Monitoring system's tools. -- *From:* Harry Singh [hbo...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 3:30 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Those using the guest iSCSI initatior inside VM guests, are you using that to connect all the drives? OS, Data, logs, DBs ? I don't have the specific reference, but I always thought VMware didn't off support running the MS iSCSI initiator inside a guest windows server VM whose host connects to a VMFS datastore via iSCSI. Those using EQL's -- using VMware's native iSCSI initiator to create disk breaks the app-aware snapshot feature? This is interesting since my existing archeticture, as a result of a reduced feature-set SAN, has always been to create VMFS datastores for new disks. Specifically for exchange 2010 and SQL. H On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: Thanks, I saw that, and just got the slide deck today. Like you and others have pointed out, there’s definitely pros and cons for either choice. *From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 12:25 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Something else you made me remember. If you plan to do MPIO at the Host level then your VMFS disks will be able to take advantage of that. EQ just had a good webex about MPIO at the host level vs. guest level a couple weeks ago, below is the recording. https://dellenterprise.webex.com/ec0605l/eventcenter/recording/recordAction.do?theAction=poprecordactname=%2Feventcenter%2Fframe%2Fg.doapiname=lsr.phprenewticket=0renewticket=0actappname=ec0605lentappname=url0107lneedFilter=falseisurlact=trueentactname=%2FnbrRecordingURL.dorID=42187702rKey=bed3095e1947d127recordID=42187702rnd=1623196772siteurl=dellenterpriseSP=ECAT=pbformat=short -- *From:* Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 12:07 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests File Servers are a bit questionable, but for SQL/Exchange it depends on if you want to use the features of
RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests
Well, if you have SAN issues, you will have problems regardless if your boot volumes are iSCSI on your san, or in your VMFS located on your SAN. And additional troubles if your data volumes are on your SAN for that matter. Unless you are espousing foregoing shared storage for local-attach storage altogether, in which case: 1) you also forego a significant bit of convenience, HA, DR, etc... that a virtualized environment affords, and 2) I disagree. -sc From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests It is posible, but what we've discovered is that if you have a SAN connectivity issue you've compilicated your life. We had a long term performance issue and boot to SAN would be problematic. Local storage is cheap cheap cheap. Frankly if I could I would have our Exchange in direct attached storage but it is not up to me, we must spend way more because it says 'SAN'. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Boot from SAN is definitely possible within VMWare Cheers Ken From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Boot from iSCSI SAN is possible: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee619733(WS.10).aspx. There are some specific configuration requirements. There's a boot version of the initiator for Win2K3 as well. I've seen reports of it working within VMWare. -sc From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Harry, It would be impossible to use the guest-based initiator like the MS software initiator or the EQL Hit kit to connect the OS drive, because, as I understand it, the software initiator doesn't load until the OS boots. Any other drives can be connected via the MS software initiator quite well (or the EQL hit kit). Vmware definitely supports running the msiSCSI initiator inside a guest that is hosted in an ESX server connected via the VM initiators to a VMFS store. the answer to your second question about connecting data drives (sql data/logs, exchange stores) via the host initiator from a VMFS store breaks the EQL technology because the EQL stuff works on the EQL hit kit extensions to work. what was the best option between attaching all drives as VMFS from the host initiator, or attaching the data drives via guest-based initiator using the MS or EQL initiators is the subject of my original post, and the consensus so far from all the replies has been a resounding it depends... LOL What other posters have suggested, and what the guys in my shop decided, was to test both ways using a solid tool to measure the performance of the disk subsystem, like IOMeter, perfmon, or in my case, some of the Longitude Monitoring system's tools. From: Harry Singh [hbo...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Those using the guest iSCSI initatior inside VM guests, are you using that to connect all the drives? OS, Data, logs, DBs ? I don't have the specific reference, but I always thought VMware didn't off support running the MS iSCSI initiator inside a guest windows server VM whose host connects to a VMFS datastore via iSCSI. Those using EQL's -- using VMware's native iSCSI initiator to create disk breaks the app-aware snapshot feature? This is interesting since my existing archeticture, as a result of a reduced feature-set SAN, has always been to create VMFS datastores for new disks. Specifically for exchange 2010 and SQL. H On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: Thanks, I saw that, and just got the slide deck today. Like you and others have pointed out, there's definitely pros and cons for either choice. From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Something else you made me remember. If you plan to do MPIO at the Host level then your VMFS disks will be able to take advantage of that. EQ just had a good webex about MPIO at the host level vs. guest level a couple weeks ago, below is the recording. https://dellenterprise.webex.com/ec0605l/eventcenter/recording/recordAct ion.do?theAction=poprecordactname=%2Feventcenter%2Fframe%2Fg.doapiname =lsr.phprenewticket=0renewticket=0actappname=ec0605lentappname=url01 07lneedFilter=falseisurlact=trueentactname=%2FnbrRecordingURL.dorID =42187702rKey=bed3095e1947d127recordID=42187702rnd=1623196772siteurl =dellenterpriseSP=ECAT=pbformat=short From: Damien Solodow
Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests
Price is not the only consideration. SAN boot really brings nothing to the table except expensive C: Drives. File stores and all the other management tricks on the SAN? Sure. SAN boot, not worth the hassle. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: *Local storage is cheap cheap cheap.* If price is the only consideration, then sure. *ASB *(Professional Bio http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) *Technology Services that Maximize Business Results... * On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: It is posible, but what we've discovered is that if you have a SAN connectivity issue you've compilicated your life. We had a long term performance issue and boot to SAN would be problematic. Local storage is cheap cheap cheap. Frankly if I could I would have our Exchange in direct attached storage but it is not up to me, we must spend way more because it says 'SAN'. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.comwrote: Boot from SAN is definitely possible within VMWare Cheers Ken *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:01 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Boot from iSCSI SAN is possible: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee619733(WS.10).aspx. There are some specific configuration requirements. There’s a boot version of the initiator for Win2K3 as well. I’ve seen reports of it working within VMWare. -sc *From:* Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Harry, It would be impossible to use the guest-based initiator like the MS software initiator or the EQL Hit kit to connect the OS drive, because, as I understand it, the software initiator doesn't load until the OS boots. Any other drives can be connected via the MS software initiator quite well (or the EQL hit kit). Vmware definitely supports running the msiSCSI initiator inside a guest that is hosted in an ESX server connected via the VM initiators to a VMFS store. the answer to your second question about connecting data drives (sql data/logs, exchange stores) via the host initiator from a VMFS store breaks the EQL technology because the EQL stuff works on the EQL hit kit extensions to work. what was the best option between attaching all drives as VMFS from the host initiator, or attaching the data drives via guest-based initiator using the MS or EQL initiators is the subject of my original post, and the consensus so far from all the replies has been a resounding it depends... LOL What other posters have suggested, and what the guys in my shop decided, was to test both ways using a solid tool to measure the performance of the disk subsystem, like IOMeter, perfmon, or in my case, some of the Longitude Monitoring system's tools. -- *From:* Harry Singh [hbo...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 3:30 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Those using the guest iSCSI initatior inside VM guests, are you using that to connect all the drives? OS, Data, logs, DBs ? I don't have the specific reference, but I always thought VMware didn't off support running the MS iSCSI initiator inside a guest windows server VM whose host connects to a VMFS datastore via iSCSI. Those using EQL's -- using VMware's native iSCSI initiator to create disk breaks the app-aware snapshot feature? This is interesting since my existing archeticture, as a result of a reduced feature-set SAN, has always been to create VMFS datastores for new disks. Specifically for exchange 2010 and SQL. H On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: Thanks, I saw that, and just got the slide deck today. Like you and others have pointed out, there’s definitely pros and cons for either choice. *From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 12:25 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Something else you made me remember. If you plan to do MPIO at the Host level then your VMFS disks will be able to take advantage of that. EQ just had a good webex about MPIO at the host level vs. guest level a couple weeks ago, below is the recording. https://dellenterprise.webex.com/ec0605l/eventcenter/recording/recordAction.do?theAction=poprecordactname=%2Feventcenter%2Fframe%2Fg.doapiname=lsr.phprenewticket=0renewticket=0actappname=ec0605lentappname=url0107lneedFilter=falseisurlact=trueentactname=%2FnbrRecordingURL.dorID=42187702rKey=bed3095e1947d127recordID=42187702rnd=1623196772siteurl=dellenterpriseSP=ECAT=pbformat=short --
Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests
We use SAN storage, just not for the OS boot partition. It's really expeinsive for that and complicates troubleshooting as well. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: Well, if you have SAN issues, you will have problems regardless if your boot volumes are iSCSI on your san, or in your VMFS located on your SAN. And additional troubles if your data volumes are on your SAN for that matter. Unless you are espousing foregoing shared storage for local-attach storage altogether, in which case: 1) you also forego a significant bit of convenience, HA, DR, etc… that a virtualized environment affords, and 2) I disagree. -sc *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:32 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests It is posible, but what we've discovered is that if you have a SAN connectivity issue you've compilicated your life. We had a long term performance issue and boot to SAN would be problematic. Local storage is cheap cheap cheap. Frankly if I could I would have our Exchange in direct attached storage but it is not up to me, we must spend way more because it says 'SAN'. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Boot from SAN is definitely possible within VMWare Cheers Ken *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:01 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Boot from iSCSI SAN is possible: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee619733(WS.10).aspx. There are some specific configuration requirements. There’s a boot version of the initiator for Win2K3 as well. I’ve seen reports of it working within VMWare. -sc *From:* Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Harry, It would be impossible to use the guest-based initiator like the MS software initiator or the EQL Hit kit to connect the OS drive, because, as I understand it, the software initiator doesn't load until the OS boots. Any other drives can be connected via the MS software initiator quite well (or the EQL hit kit). Vmware definitely supports running the msiSCSI initiator inside a guest that is hosted in an ESX server connected via the VM initiators to a VMFS store. the answer to your second question about connecting data drives (sql data/logs, exchange stores) via the host initiator from a VMFS store breaks the EQL technology because the EQL stuff works on the EQL hit kit extensions to work. what was the best option between attaching all drives as VMFS from the host initiator, or attaching the data drives via guest-based initiator using the MS or EQL initiators is the subject of my original post, and the consensus so far from all the replies has been a resounding it depends... LOL What other posters have suggested, and what the guys in my shop decided, was to test both ways using a solid tool to measure the performance of the disk subsystem, like IOMeter, perfmon, or in my case, some of the Longitude Monitoring system's tools. -- *From:* Harry Singh [hbo...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 3:30 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Those using the guest iSCSI initatior inside VM guests, are you using that to connect all the drives? OS, Data, logs, DBs ? I don't have the specific reference, but I always thought VMware didn't off support running the MS iSCSI initiator inside a guest windows server VM whose host connects to a VMFS datastore via iSCSI. Those using EQL's -- using VMware's native iSCSI initiator to create disk breaks the app-aware snapshot feature? This is interesting since my existing archeticture, as a result of a reduced feature-set SAN, has always been to create VMFS datastores for new disks. Specifically for exchange 2010 and SQL. H On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: Thanks, I saw that, and just got the slide deck today. Like you and others have pointed out, there’s definitely pros and cons for either choice. *From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 12:25 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Something else you made me remember. If you plan to do MPIO at the Host level then your VMFS disks will be able to take advantage of that. EQ just had a good webex about MPIO at the host level vs. guest level a couple weeks ago, below is the recording.
RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests
I've done cabinets full of iSCSI SAN boot for blade servers for n-tier web sites. As you scale, it becomes more attractive. (And, at a certain level of scale, it becomes less attractive again - but there aren't many Googles/Facebooks/Hotmails out there.) SAN doesn't have to be expensive anymore. I guess it depends on how you define SAN. I define it, on the low-end, as 12-TB of RAID-5 in a Dell R* chassis with an iSCSI target. Of course, an EMC SAN is going to cost a lot more than that...(and give you lots more features, too). Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Price is not the only consideration. SAN boot really brings nothing to the table except expensive C: Drives. File stores and all the other management tricks on the SAN? Sure. SAN boot, not worth the hassle. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Local storage is cheap cheap cheap. If price is the only consideration, then sure. ASB (Professional Biohttp://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) Technology Services that Maximize Business Results... On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.commailto:sep...@gmail.com wrote: It is posible, but what we've discovered is that if you have a SAN connectivity issue you've compilicated your life. We had a long term performance issue and boot to SAN would be problematic. Local storage is cheap cheap cheap. Frankly if I could I would have our Exchange in direct attached storage but it is not up to me, we must spend way more because it says 'SAN'. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Boot from SAN is definitely possible within VMWare Cheers Ken From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Boot from iSCSI SAN is possible: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee619733(WS.10).aspx. There are some specific configuration requirements. There's a boot version of the initiator for Win2K3 as well. I've seen reports of it working within VMWare. -sc From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.commailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Harry, It would be impossible to use the guest-based initiator like the MS software initiator or the EQL Hit kit to connect the OS drive, because, as I understand it, the software initiator doesn't load until the OS boots. Any other drives can be connected via the MS software initiator quite well (or the EQL hit kit). Vmware definitely supports running the msiSCSI initiator inside a guest that is hosted in an ESX server connected via the VM initiators to a VMFS store. the answer to your second question about connecting data drives (sql data/logs, exchange stores) via the host initiator from a VMFS store breaks the EQL technology because the EQL stuff works on the EQL hit kit extensions to work. what was the best option between attaching all drives as VMFS from the host initiator, or attaching the data drives via guest-based initiator using the MS or EQL initiators is the subject of my original post, and the consensus so far from all the replies has been a resounding it depends... LOL What other posters have suggested, and what the guys in my shop decided, was to test both ways using a solid tool to measure the performance of the disk subsystem, like IOMeter, perfmon, or in my case, some of the Longitude Monitoring system's tools. From: Harry Singh [hbo...@gmail.commailto:hbo...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Those using the guest iSCSI initatior inside VM guests, are you using that to connect all the drives? OS, Data, logs, DBs ? I don't have the specific reference, but I always thought VMware didn't off support running the MS iSCSI initiator inside a guest windows server VM whose host connects to a VMFS datastore via iSCSI. Those using EQL's -- using VMware's native iSCSI initiator to create disk breaks the app-aware snapshot feature? This is interesting since my existing archeticture, as a result of a reduced feature-set SAN, has always been to create VMFS datastores for new disks. Specifically for exchange 2010 and SQL. H On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.commailto:k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: Thanks, I saw that, and just got the slide deck today. Like you and others have pointed out, there's definitely pros and cons for
Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests
Consider when whan of your hosts dies because of hardware failure, and you're stuck with the VM on the machine's DAS. Sure, you backup properly but I never really like to restore from a backup unless I absolutely have to... As far as complicating troubleshooting, I just don't see it. Either the volume is there or it is not. If your SAN is flakey, you're going to have issues across all your storage needs. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: We use SAN storage, just not for the OS boot partition. It's really expeinsive for that and complicates troubleshooting as well. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: Well, if you have SAN issues, you will have problems regardless if your boot volumes are iSCSI on your san, or in your VMFS located on your SAN. And additional troubles if your data volumes are on your SAN for that matter. Unless you are espousing foregoing shared storage for local-attach storage altogether, in which case: 1) you also forego a significant bit of convenience, HA, DR, etc… that a virtualized environment affords, and 2) I disagree. -sc *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:32 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests It is posible, but what we've discovered is that if you have a SAN connectivity issue you've compilicated your life. We had a long term performance issue and boot to SAN would be problematic. Local storage is cheap cheap cheap. Frankly if I could I would have our Exchange in direct attached storage but it is not up to me, we must spend way more because it says 'SAN'. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Boot from SAN is definitely possible within VMWare Cheers Ken *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:01 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Boot from iSCSI SAN is possible: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee619733(WS.10).aspx. There are some specific configuration requirements. There’s a boot version of the initiator for Win2K3 as well. I’ve seen reports of it working within VMWare. -sc *From:* Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Harry, It would be impossible to use the guest-based initiator like the MS software initiator or the EQL Hit kit to connect the OS drive, because, as I understand it, the software initiator doesn't load until the OS boots. Any other drives can be connected via the MS software initiator quite well (or the EQL hit kit). Vmware definitely supports running the msiSCSI initiator inside a guest that is hosted in an ESX server connected via the VM initiators to a VMFS store. the answer to your second question about connecting data drives (sql data/logs, exchange stores) via the host initiator from a VMFS store breaks the EQL technology because the EQL stuff works on the EQL hit kit extensions to work. what was the best option between attaching all drives as VMFS from the host initiator, or attaching the data drives via guest-based initiator using the MS or EQL initiators is the subject of my original post, and the consensus so far from all the replies has been a resounding it depends... LOL What other posters have suggested, and what the guys in my shop decided, was to test both ways using a solid tool to measure the performance of the disk subsystem, like IOMeter, perfmon, or in my case, some of the Longitude Monitoring system's tools. -- *From:* Harry Singh [hbo...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 3:30 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Those using the guest iSCSI initatior inside VM guests, are you using that to connect all the drives? OS, Data, logs, DBs ? I don't have the specific reference, but I always thought VMware didn't off support running the MS iSCSI initiator inside a guest windows server VM whose host connects to a VMFS datastore via iSCSI. Those using EQL's -- using VMware's native iSCSI initiator to create disk breaks the app-aware snapshot feature? This is interesting since my existing archeticture, as a result of a reduced feature-set SAN, has always been to create VMFS datastores for new disks. Specifically for exchange 2010 and SQL. H On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: Thanks, I saw that, and just got the slide deck today. Like you and others have pointed out, there’s definitely pros and cons for either choice. *From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011
RE: Strange - Outlook 2010 AutoArchive isn't
Sean, What happens if you go to File Mailbox Cleanup... Archive and choose to archive based on AutoArchive settings? You should see status updates as Outlook progresses through the folders in Outlook's status bar along the bottom. If the folder structure is sufficiently small this may complete before it shows anything to notice. The biggest 'trick' to AutoArchive is that it doesn't care at all when the message was sent or received. AutoArchive works strictly off of the last Modified date. Add that column to the folder view and see when these messages were last Modified to see if they meet your AutoArchive criteria. Also, check to see if there are any GPOs configured for Outlook 2010 that may be controlling or superseding his AutoArchive settings. Best of luck, Joe Tinney From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Strange - Outlook 2010 AutoArchive isn't Sorry for the cross-post, I wanted the maximum exposure. I've got one user on Outlook 2010 (Exchange 2003) where the AutoArchive isn't running even though it's set to run every 3 days without notification. Are there events I should look for in the App or System logs on his workstation? I'm really at a loss. This is a laptop that was formatted and re-installed just two weeks ago. Fully up to date on all patches. Sean Rector, MCSE Information Technology Manager Virginia Opera Association E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.orgmailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line) {+} Tickets on sale for Puccini's Madama Butterfly On Sale NOW 2011-2012 Subscriptions featuring four NEW Productions Aida | Hansel And Gretel | Orphée | The Mikado Visit us online at www.VaOpera.orghttp://www.vaopera.org/ or call 1-866-OPERA-VA The vision of Virginia Opera is to enrich lives through the powerful integration of music, voice and human drama. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. {*} ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: APC battery tray
I would and have ordered rbc24. On Apr 5, 2011 11:36 AM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: And I can vouch that APC will stand behind the warranty. I had 4 PC's replaced by them several years ago after a power issue following a hurricane. It was about a 30 minute process to validate the connections and infrasturture with them over the phone but they came through with a check within a couple weeks. Roger Wright ___ There are plenty of charities for the homeless. Isn't it time somebody helped the homely? - Dolly Parton On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:10 AM, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote: There's what I buy, and what Purchasing ends up getting... Besides perhaps guaranteed to last a year longer than the competitor's packs, APC also has their liability policy regarding equipment. That is, if damage is caused to all your servers because a UPS goes wack-o, APC will take care of the hardware replacement (too bad the data on those servers is worth many times that of the server itself). I believe if you use after-market batteries, that policy is voided. APC packs once had a paid mailer for return to the recyclers. Given the weight of the package, that was worth quite a bit. (Now we just drive across town to the salvage yard that handles SLA batteries.) Not _that_ big a deal, but it's annoying. -- richard John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote on 04/05/2011 10:02:01 AM: :-) I guess my question would be, do YOU buy name-brand batteries or are the aftermarket kits good enough? The metal tray in which these batteries reside goes up about 1/2 to 2/3 of the way on the outside. The batteries do not appear to be swollen, but they could be slightly swollen and provide just enough friction. I guess I really have nothing to lose if I use a small pry bar. After all I am currently planning on replacing the whole thing if I can't get the batteries out. :-) From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC battery tray Whether or not an extra year of warranty is worth it or not, simply consider how much fun you've been having with this the past 2 days or so... -- richard John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 04/05/2011 09:53 AM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com To NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Press this button if the To is a fax number. Enter in the fax number like 123-456-7890. cc Subject RE: APC battery tray Yeah. It's looking like I'm going to have to replace it, tray and all, like APC intended. :-( Would you spend the extra money for the name-brand replacements (including the extra year of warranty) or go with the less expensive after-market solution that is supposed to be compatible with the RBC24 battery pack? -Original Message- From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC battery tray Is possible the batters have started to expand and are now jammed into the tray? Check the voltage across the batteries, if it 0vdc (or pretty close) then you need not really worry about them shorting out, imho. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 05 April 2011 15:34 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: APC battery tray Any tips for getting the batteries out of the tray in an APC UPS? Our rackmount APC takes 4 batteries and they appear to be *glued* into the tray. The guy at Batteries Plus was shocked that he couldn't get 'em out with a screwdriver by prying on them. A friend on another list suggested soaking the bottom of the tray in Goo Gone, but I'm afraid that might short out the batteries or something even worse... Is that likely to be safe and does anyone have any clue what APC used to secure the batteries into the tray? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. QinetiQ may monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the purposes of security. QinetiQ Limited (Registered in England Wales: Company Number: 3796233) Registered office: Cody Technology Park, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX
Re: eagle cam is back
Ours haven't nested yet...soon I hope. http://www.species-at-risk.mb.ca/pefa/p-webcam.html On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote: We have had peregrines nesting 10 years now at our main office building in San Francisco. They are quite the local celebs. The Santa Cruz Predatory Bird Research Group (SCPBRG) http://www2.ucsc.edu/scpbrg/index.htm has had a nestcam on the nestbox for the last 6 yearrs or so that gets upward of a million hits a day at peak http://www2.ucsc.edu/scpbrg/nestcamSF.htm -Original Message- From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 7:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: eagle cam is back We have a pAir of peregrine falcons thAt perch up on a hotel downtown here. Often there is a webcam too ,I'll see if I can find the details. Sent from my iPad On 2011-04-04, at 8:29 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: Cool! Thanks for sharing... Roger Wright ___ There are plenty of charities for the homeless. Isn't it time somebody helped the homely? - Dolly Parton On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 5:57 PM, C.E. Gene Connor cege...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.ustream.tv/decoraheagles http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/04/live-eagle-cam-2011-video_n_ 844582.html -- Gene C. Misc. B.S. http://genec-lori.com/ PackRat GarageSale http://genec-lori.biz/ Genes-Computers Inc. Yulee ,Fl Established 1981, Microsoft OEM Registered member, system builder Active registered Microsoft Partner Active Charter Partner of The Association of System Builders and Integrators If you think you're beaten, Then you are! If you give up the fight, Accept it !! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests
This is a my environment and certain aspects that are less then optimal for an ideal configuration vs your environment situation. It's not that I am wrong, it's that our disasters have lead me down a path where the blips were less painful if the OS didn't die. Your experience may have lead you down a different path which is all to the good. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.comwrote: While you’re not wrong, you’re not right eitherJ So your boot vol is local, and your exchange DB’s etc are iSCSI: Your san blips, are you any better off? No. It works, it’s just scary for some to wrap their heads around… *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:32 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests It is posible, but what we've discovered is that if you have a SAN connectivity issue you've compilicated your life. We had a long term performance issue and boot to SAN would be problematic. Local storage is cheap cheap cheap. Frankly if I could I would have our Exchange in direct attached storage but it is not up to me, we must spend way more because it says 'SAN'. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Boot from SAN is definitely possible within VMWare Cheers Ken *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:01 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Boot from iSCSI SAN is possible: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee619733(WS.10).aspx. There are some specific configuration requirements. There’s a boot version of the initiator for Win2K3 as well. I’ve seen reports of it working within VMWare. -sc *From:* Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Harry, It would be impossible to use the guest-based initiator like the MS software initiator or the EQL Hit kit to connect the OS drive, because, as I understand it, the software initiator doesn't load until the OS boots. Any other drives can be connected via the MS software initiator quite well (or the EQL hit kit). Vmware definitely supports running the msiSCSI initiator inside a guest that is hosted in an ESX server connected via the VM initiators to a VMFS store. the answer to your second question about connecting data drives (sql data/logs, exchange stores) via the host initiator from a VMFS store breaks the EQL technology because the EQL stuff works on the EQL hit kit extensions to work. what was the best option between attaching all drives as VMFS from the host initiator, or attaching the data drives via guest-based initiator using the MS or EQL initiators is the subject of my original post, and the consensus so far from all the replies has been a resounding it depends... LOL What other posters have suggested, and what the guys in my shop decided, was to test both ways using a solid tool to measure the performance of the disk subsystem, like IOMeter, perfmon, or in my case, some of the Longitude Monitoring system's tools. -- *From:* Harry Singh [hbo...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 3:30 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Those using the guest iSCSI initatior inside VM guests, are you using that to connect all the drives? OS, Data, logs, DBs ? I don't have the specific reference, but I always thought VMware didn't off support running the MS iSCSI initiator inside a guest windows server VM whose host connects to a VMFS datastore via iSCSI. Those using EQL's -- using VMware's native iSCSI initiator to create disk breaks the app-aware snapshot feature? This is interesting since my existing archeticture, as a result of a reduced feature-set SAN, has always been to create VMFS datastores for new disks. Specifically for exchange 2010 and SQL. H On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: Thanks, I saw that, and just got the slide deck today. Like you and others have pointed out, there’s definitely pros and cons for either choice. *From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 12:25 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Something else you made me remember. If you plan to do MPIO at the Host level then your VMFS disks will be able to take advantage of that. EQ just had a good webex about MPIO at the host level vs. guest level a couple weeks ago, below is the recording.
RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests
I get that, I just don't see where having the OS up but the data gone or the stores disappear uncleanly is really any better? To each his own:) From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests This is a my environment and certain aspects that are less then optimal for an ideal configuration vs your environment situation. It's not that I am wrong, it's that our disasters have lead me down a path where the blips were less painful if the OS didn't die. Your experience may have lead you down a different path which is all to the good. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.commailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: While you're not wrong, you're not right either:) So your boot vol is local, and your exchange DB's etc are iSCSI: Your san blips, are you any better off? No. It works, it's just scary for some to wrap their heads around... From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.commailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests It is posible, but what we've discovered is that if you have a SAN connectivity issue you've compilicated your life. We had a long term performance issue and boot to SAN would be problematic. Local storage is cheap cheap cheap. Frankly if I could I would have our Exchange in direct attached storage but it is not up to me, we must spend way more because it says 'SAN'. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Boot from SAN is definitely possible within VMWare Cheers Ken From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Boot from iSCSI SAN is possible: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee619733(WS.10).aspx. There are some specific configuration requirements. There's a boot version of the initiator for Win2K3 as well. I've seen reports of it working within VMWare. -sc From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.commailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Harry, It would be impossible to use the guest-based initiator like the MS software initiator or the EQL Hit kit to connect the OS drive, because, as I understand it, the software initiator doesn't load until the OS boots. Any other drives can be connected via the MS software initiator quite well (or the EQL hit kit). Vmware definitely supports running the msiSCSI initiator inside a guest that is hosted in an ESX server connected via the VM initiators to a VMFS store. the answer to your second question about connecting data drives (sql data/logs, exchange stores) via the host initiator from a VMFS store breaks the EQL technology because the EQL stuff works on the EQL hit kit extensions to work. what was the best option between attaching all drives as VMFS from the host initiator, or attaching the data drives via guest-based initiator using the MS or EQL initiators is the subject of my original post, and the consensus so far from all the replies has been a resounding it depends... LOL What other posters have suggested, and what the guys in my shop decided, was to test both ways using a solid tool to measure the performance of the disk subsystem, like IOMeter, perfmon, or in my case, some of the Longitude Monitoring system's tools. From: Harry Singh [hbo...@gmail.commailto:hbo...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Those using the guest iSCSI initatior inside VM guests, are you using that to connect all the drives? OS, Data, logs, DBs ? I don't have the specific reference, but I always thought VMware didn't off support running the MS iSCSI initiator inside a guest windows server VM whose host connects to a VMFS datastore via iSCSI. Those using EQL's -- using VMware's native iSCSI initiator to create disk breaks the app-aware snapshot feature? This is interesting since my existing archeticture, as a result of a reduced feature-set SAN, has always been to create VMFS datastores for new disks. Specifically for exchange 2010 and SQL. H On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.commailto:k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: Thanks, I saw that, and just got the slide deck today. Like you and others have pointed out, there's definitely pros and cons for either choice. From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS iSCSI initiators in VM guests Something else you
RE: Drawing a blank - need help
Correct, and it works a dream, I highly recommend you utilize it when migrating your shares to Win2k8 if at all possible. Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Drawing a blank - need help Access based enumeration Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Drawing a blank - need help What is the Microsoft process where you can enable this on a file structure, and people access one share, and only see the folders below that they have access to? I'm using Server 2K8 R2, but it was available back in 2k3, I think... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Drawing a blank - need help
Thanks John and Michael. Hate brain farts they can be s smelly. Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com 4/5/2011 8:25 AM Access based enumeration Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Drawing a blank - need help What is the Microsoft process where you can enable this on a file structure, and people access one share, and only see the folders below that they have access to? I'm using Server 2K8 R2, but it was available back in 2k3, I think... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Archives
Are we not able to connect to the Lyris server directly anymore? I can't find a link for it on Sunbelt's Communities tab. Would like to search the archives, so I don't ask repetitive questions. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Archives
The link from their page does seem to have disappeared when I looked for it earlier today too: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/utilities/login/ -sc -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Archives Are we not able to connect to the Lyris server directly anymore? I can't find a link for it on Sunbelt's Communities tab. Would like to search the archives, so I don't ask repetitive questions. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Drawing a blank - need help
You manage it in 2008/R2 with the often ignored Share and Storage Management MMC. Hit the properties of the share in that MMC and it is under Shareing/Advanced. Although it looks like it is turned on by default in R2 -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Drawing a blank - need help Thanks John and Michael. Hate brain farts they can be s smelly. Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com 4/5/2011 8:25 AM Access based enumeration Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Drawing a blank - need help What is the Microsoft process where you can enable this on a file structure, and people access one share, and only see the folders below that they have access to? I'm using Server 2K8 R2, but it was available back in 2k3, I think... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PCWorld: 'Massive' Epsilon E-Mail Breach Hits Citi, Chase, Many More
There is another problem with this, that there is a blind trust that businesses give their partners ( absence of SLA's especially in the security department) then when the partner gets breached ( remember again, no security SLA's, no right to audit and verify the partner is doing the right thing and its verified by a 3rd party), the downstream liability to the business is where the lack of due diligence on the business's half, is going to come back and bite them in the arse. Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: PCWorld: 'Massive' Epsilon E-Mail Breach Hits Citi, Chase, Many More I don't either. The size and scope, and the fact that it seems to be growing illustrates the poor internal control of Epsilon. We, as consumers, are once again being shown that our personal information is a commodity, that while valuable, is generally held insecurely. And we, the consumers, have very little power here, even though will bear the burden collectively. On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: While I don't necessarily advocate ditching an organization as soon as they have a security blunder (that we hear about), they do need to be brought to task, because if nothing is done, then there's little incentive to do things differently. Rather than leaving them outright, we need to push for some stringent measures to be put into place that would benefit us, and cause them lingering financial pain that they'd be more inclined to address their security needs going forward. Leaving will only get you so much -- the other clowns have the same bad practices... ASB (Professional Bio http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio ) Technology Services that Maximize Business Results... On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps. Were I a client of this company, I'd have serious thoughts about continuing to do business with them. Sure, maybe this time they only lost email addresses, which they had to then turn around to their customers and say, Hey, sorry, this other company we contract with had a breach and your email address was downloaded. Phishing works, we know it works. You, the members of this list and I might not be inclined to click on something, but the masses are a different story, even when adequately warned. Now, the thieves, in this case, know who is a customer of particular store and can create carefully constructed emails designed to elicit personal information by pretending to come from a trustworthy site. My hunch, someone smart got the list, and we won't see these emails appear for 6 months to a year. Pure speculation, I know. On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.com wrote: On 4 Apr 2011 at 15:56, Jonathan Link wrote: All your client list are belong to us! I'm interested in the long term consequences of this story... Does not appear to be very bad IMHO as only names and emails for the most part were disclosed. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Drobo experiences
We've had success with a couple models from Synology. Easy AD integration, decent performance, primarily used for install points and archived data. Roger Wright ___ There are plenty of charities for the homeless. Isn't it time somebody helped the homely? - Dolly Parton On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: i am looking at some cheap disk archive too...looked at the drobo and the dlink but I think am going to get a Buffalo Terra pro...1U, 8TB ... On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Directly supporting Drobo devices is new to me - but in the past two weeks I have come to the conclusion that these things are not worth the support headaches. Particularly it seems, when dealing with DroboShare attached equipment. I'm repeatedly seeing delays, timeouts, and outright connectivity drops. Does anyone have any insight into similar issues, or (hopefully) anything to the contrary? Thanks! -- ME2 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Creating home directories - Best method?
Let AD do it. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Creating home directories - Best method? We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Creating home directories - Best method?
Not a direct answer to your question, but this is my favorite KB article of all time and it might prove helpful to your migration. Once you decide the method of how to assign them this will let the users auto create them on first login. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274443 -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Creating home directories - Best method? We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Creating home directories - Best method?
That's how I do it, I also setup the perms on the top level folder initially so created directories have appropriate permissions for each new user... jlc -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 12:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? Let AD do it. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Creating home directories - Best method? We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Creating home directories - Best method?
Have fun with that. I did that same migration here a year ago or so. I wrote a few scripts to remove the Novell client, iPrint, Zenworks, Patchlink, etc, as part of the migration. I tried the Quest NDS migration tools and they were a complete bust. So many issues that we abandoned the tools. Waste of $$. We used AD to create the home directories. The scripts are yours if you want them, send me a message off-line. By the way robocopy is a great tool for the data copy portion of this sort of project. Tom Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov 4/5/2011 1:57 PM We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Creating home directories - Best method?
+1 It should be fairly easy to script. Although, I'm starting to prefer RichCopy over RoboCopy. I haven't had a chance to compare the latest version of RoboCopy to RichCopy, but the multithreading in RichCopy has proved to be much faster than previous versions of RoboCopy. - Sean On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Have fun with that. I did that same migration here a year ago or so. I wrote a few scripts to remove the Novell client, iPrint, Zenworks, Patchlink, etc, as part of the migration. I tried the Quest NDS migration tools and they were a complete bust. So many issues that we abandoned the tools. Waste of $$. We used AD to create the home directories. The scripts are yours if you want them, send me a message off-line. By the way robocopy is a great tool for the data copy portion of this sort of project. Tom Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov 4/5/2011 1:57 PM We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Archives
OT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH4mAeqq9is /OT -- ME2 On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: The link from their page does seem to have disappeared when I looked for it earlier today too: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/utilities/login/ -sc -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Archives Are we not able to connect to the Lyris server directly anymore? I can't find a link for it on Sunbelt's Communities tab. Would like to search the archives, so I don't ask repetitive questions. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Creating home directories - Best method?
+1 -- ME2 On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: Let AD do it. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Creating home directories - Best method? We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Creating home directories - Best method?
+1 works well. Jon On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: Let AD do it. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Creating home directories - Best method? We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Creating home directories - Best method?
I like this KB: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816313 In my part of the computer world, I let Group Policy do the work for TS/RDS/Citrix users. Thanks Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Subject: Creating home directories - Best method? We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Creating home directories - Best method?
Now that I have been bitten by the PowerShell bug, there is probably a PS cmdlet to do this: Get-Users -OnlyCitrixUsers | Set-HomeDirectory -Location Network -RootPath \\Server\Share -DriveLetter H: You think? :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? I like this KB: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816313 In my part of the computer world, I let Group Policy do the work for TS/RDS/Citrix users. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Subject: Creating home directories - Best method? We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Creating home directories - Best method?
You can do that with the AD PowerShell module (and with ADSI in earlier versions of PS, and with dsmod.exe in cmd.exe as far as that is concerned). I thought the question was about the best way to CREATE the home directory. Not to assign it. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? Now that I have been bitten by the PowerShell bug, there is probably a PS cmdlet to do this: Get-Users -OnlyCitrixUsers | Set-HomeDirectory -Location Network -RootPath \\Server\Share -DriveLetter H: You think? :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? I like this KB: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816313 In my part of the computer world, I let Group Policy do the work for TS/RDS/Citrix users. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Subject: Creating home directories - Best method? We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
IIS WMI and PowerShell
Thought I would pass this along in the hope that it may save someone some time: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff730973.aspx So I'm trying to retrieve some settings on virtual directories on an internal FTP sever we have. I've been trying to use PowerShell as much as possible instead of VBScript, so I fire it up and start working at it. Eventually decide on something like this: get-wmiobject -Class IIsFtpVirtualDirSetting -NameSpace root\MicrosoftIISv2 -Computer FTPSERVERNAME And I get Access Denied, so I try another namespace on the same server: get-wmiobject -list -NameSpace root\Microsoftnlb -Computer FTPSERVERNAME Works perfectly. Huh?. try another. All the namespaces enumerate except for MicrosoftIISv2. Again, huh? So I finally Google it and and found the link above, which explains it in detail. Ugh.. If you are still with me here, and interested, try enumerating the UNCUserName and UNCPassWord. I couldn't believe what I was seeing when I did that. I know it's FTP and across the wire the passwords are sent in clear text, but I had no idea they were stored that way as well. Not good. Thanks for listening. Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Archives
Is that like the new equivalent to getting rickrolled? Otherwise, I may be an old-fuddy-duddy, but I just don't get it. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 3:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Archives OT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH4mAeqq9is /OT -- ME2 On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: The link from their page does seem to have disappeared when I looked for it earlier today too: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/utilities/login/ -sc -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.govmailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Archives Are we not able to connect to the Lyris server directly anymore? I can't find a link for it on Sunbelt's Communities tab. Would like to search the archives, so I don't ask repetitive questions. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/http://software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Creating home directories - Best method?
Picky, picky. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? You can do that with the AD PowerShell module (and with ADSI in earlier versions of PS, and with dsmod.exe in cmd.exe as far as that is concerned). I thought the question was about the best way to CREATE the home directory. Not to assign it. :-) -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? Now that I have been bitten by the PowerShell bug, there is probably a PS cmdlet to do this: Get-Users -OnlyCitrixUsers | Set-HomeDirectory -Location Network - RootPath \\Server\Share -DriveLetter H: You think? :) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Archives
I think the message was highly targeted but broadly cast... On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: Is that like the new equivalent to getting rickrolled? Otherwise, I may be an old-fuddy-duddy, but I just don’t get it. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2011 3:36 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Archives OT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH4mAeqq9is /OT -- ME2 On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: The link from their page does seem to have disappeared when I looked for it earlier today too: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/utilities/login/ -sc -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Archives Are we not able to connect to the Lyris server directly anymore? I can't find a link for it on Sunbelt's Communities tab. Would like to search the archives, so I don't ask repetitive questions. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: IIS WMI and PowerShell
Old news. :) Seriously (and perhaps shockingly) there are still some few things that are easier to do in vbscript. Try to do this over remote PowerShell for example (instead of targeting a remote server from a local instance). Introduce yourself to Kerberos dual-hop problems (which you may have previously seen in SharePoint but most administrators are lucky enough to have never seen before). (Sorry, feeling a little cynical tonight.) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IIS WMI and PowerShell Thought I would pass this along in the hope that it may save someone some time: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff730973.aspx So I'm trying to retrieve some settings on virtual directories on an internal FTP sever we have. I've been trying to use PowerShell as much as possible instead of VBScript, so I fire it up and start working at it. Eventually decide on something like this: get-wmiobject -Class IIsFtpVirtualDirSetting -NameSpace root\MicrosoftIISv2 -Computer FTPSERVERNAME And I get Access Denied, so I try another namespace on the same server: get-wmiobject -list -NameSpace root\Microsoftnlb -Computer FTPSERVERNAME Works perfectly. Huh?. try another. All the namespaces enumerate except for MicrosoftIISv2. Again, huh? So I finally Google it and and found the link above, which explains it in detail. Ugh.. If you are still with me here, and interested, try enumerating the UNCUserName and UNCPassWord. I couldn't believe what I was seeing when I did that. I know it's FTP and across the wire the passwords are sent in clear text, but I had no idea they were stored that way as well. Not good. Thanks for listening. Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Creating home directories - Best method?
So, ADUC/RSAT will create the directory, if specified, at account creation. Will creating the account in powershell do the same? Kurt On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 15:11, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You can do that with the AD PowerShell module (and with ADSI in earlier versions of PS, and with dsmod.exe in cmd.exe as far as that is concerned). I thought the question was about the best way to CREATE the home directory. Not to assign it. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? Now that I have been bitten by the PowerShell bug, there is probably a PS cmdlet to do this: Get-Users -OnlyCitrixUsers | Set-HomeDirectory -Location Network -RootPath \\Server\Share -DriveLetter H: You think? :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? I like this KB: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816313 In my part of the computer world, I let Group Policy do the work for TS/RDS/Citrix users. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Subject: Creating home directories - Best method? We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Creating home directories - Best method?
It will work exactly the same, given the sole exception that ADUC/RSAT provide additional parameter validation that PowerShell/ADSI do not. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Creating home directories - Best method? So, ADUC/RSAT will create the directory, if specified, at account creation. Will creating the account in powershell do the same? Kurt On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 15:11, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You can do that with the AD PowerShell module (and with ADSI in earlier versions of PS, and with dsmod.exe in cmd.exe as far as that is concerned). I thought the question was about the best way to CREATE the home directory. Not to assign it. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? Now that I have been bitten by the PowerShell bug, there is probably a PS cmdlet to do this: Get-Users -OnlyCitrixUsers | Set-HomeDirectory -Location Network -RootPath \\Server\Share -DriveLetter H: You think? :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? I like this KB: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816313 In my part of the computer world, I let Group Policy do the work for TS/RDS/Citrix users. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Subject: Creating home directories - Best method? We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Creating home directories - Best method?
So, building the powershell stuff into a web page, with proper account credentials on the back end, and making it available to HR, is my preference. As someone around here used to say: Automation leads to relaxation. Heh. Kurt On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 15:49, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: It will work exactly the same, given the sole exception that ADUC/RSAT provide additional parameter validation that PowerShell/ADSI do not. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Creating home directories - Best method? So, ADUC/RSAT will create the directory, if specified, at account creation. Will creating the account in powershell do the same? Kurt On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 15:11, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You can do that with the AD PowerShell module (and with ADSI in earlier versions of PS, and with dsmod.exe in cmd.exe as far as that is concerned). I thought the question was about the best way to CREATE the home directory. Not to assign it. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? Now that I have been bitten by the PowerShell bug, there is probably a PS cmdlet to do this: Get-Users -OnlyCitrixUsers | Set-HomeDirectory -Location Network -RootPath \\Server\Share -DriveLetter H: You think? :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? I like this KB: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816313 In my part of the computer world, I let Group Policy do the work for TS/RDS/Citrix users. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Subject: Creating home directories - Best method? We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Creating home directories - Best method?
Love it - Automation leads to relaxation. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Creating home directories - Best method? So, building the powershell stuff into a web page, with proper account credentials on the back end, and making it available to HR, is my preference. As someone around here used to say: Automation leads to relaxation. Heh. Kurt On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 15:49, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: It will work exactly the same, given the sole exception that ADUC/RSAT provide additional parameter validation that PowerShell/ADSI do not. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Creating home directories - Best method? So, ADUC/RSAT will create the directory, if specified, at account creation. Will creating the account in powershell do the same? Kurt On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 15:11, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You can do that with the AD PowerShell module (and with ADSI in earlier versions of PS, and with dsmod.exe in cmd.exe as far as that is concerned). I thought the question was about the best way to CREATE the home directory. Not to assign it. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? Now that I have been bitten by the PowerShell bug, there is probably a PS cmdlet to do this: Get-Users -OnlyCitrixUsers | Set-HomeDirectory -Location Network -RootPath \\Server\Share -DriveLetter H: You think? :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? I like this KB: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816313 In my part of the computer world, I let Group Policy do the work for TS/RDS/Citrix users. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Subject: Creating home directories - Best method? We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Creating home directories - Best method?
Ayup. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Creating home directories - Best method? So, building the powershell stuff into a web page, with proper account credentials on the back end, and making it available to HR, is my preference. As someone around here used to say: Automation leads to relaxation. Heh. Kurt On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 15:49, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: It will work exactly the same, given the sole exception that ADUC/RSAT provide additional parameter validation that PowerShell/ADSI do not. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Creating home directories - Best method? So, ADUC/RSAT will create the directory, if specified, at account creation. Will creating the account in powershell do the same? Kurt On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 15:11, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You can do that with the AD PowerShell module (and with ADSI in earlier versions of PS, and with dsmod.exe in cmd.exe as far as that is concerned). I thought the question was about the best way to CREATE the home directory. Not to assign it. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? Now that I have been bitten by the PowerShell bug, there is probably a PS cmdlet to do this: Get-Users -OnlyCitrixUsers | Set-HomeDirectory -Location Network -RootPath \\Server\Share -DriveLetter H: You think? :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? I like this KB: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816313 In my part of the computer world, I let Group Policy do the work for TS/RDS/Citrix users. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Subject: Creating home directories - Best method? We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Creating home directories - Best method?
This is the easiest approach imo. It's all automated, folder is created, correct permissions are set etc. -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2011 4:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? Not a direct answer to your question, but this is my favorite KB article of all time and it might prove helpful to your migration. Once you decide the method of how to assign them this will let the users auto create them on first login. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274443 -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Creating home directories - Best method? We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Creating home directories - Best method?
Thanks for remembering... *ASB *(Professional Bio http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) *Technology Services that Maximize Business Results... * On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: So, building the powershell stuff into a web page, with proper account credentials on the back end, and making it available to HR, is my preference. As someone around here used to say: Automation leads to relaxation. Heh. Kurt On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 15:49, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: It will work exactly the same, given the sole exception that ADUC/RSAT provide additional parameter validation that PowerShell/ADSI do not. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Creating home directories - Best method? So, ADUC/RSAT will create the directory, if specified, at account creation. Will creating the account in powershell do the same? Kurt On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 15:11, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You can do that with the AD PowerShell module (and with ADSI in earlier versions of PS, and with dsmod.exe in cmd.exe as far as that is concerned). I thought the question was about the best way to CREATE the home directory. Not to assign it. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? Now that I have been bitten by the PowerShell bug, there is probably a PS cmdlet to do this: Get-Users -OnlyCitrixUsers | Set-HomeDirectory -Location Network -RootPath \\Server\Share -DriveLetter H: You think? :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? I like this KB: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816313 In my part of the computer world, I let Group Policy do the work for TS/RDS/Citrix users. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Subject: Creating home directories - Best method? We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [semi-OT] Last IPv4 address blocks assigned
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Re: [semi-OT] Last IPv4 address blocks assigned
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Re: Creating home directories - Best method?
Well, you know, putting a (tm) in most of my messages gets kinda old after a while... Heh. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 16:43, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for remembering... ASB (Professional Bio) Technology Services that Maximize Business Results... On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: So, building the powershell stuff into a web page, with proper account credentials on the back end, and making it available to HR, is my preference. As someone around here used to say: Automation leads to relaxation. Heh. Kurt On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 15:49, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: It will work exactly the same, given the sole exception that ADUC/RSAT provide additional parameter validation that PowerShell/ADSI do not. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Creating home directories - Best method? So, ADUC/RSAT will create the directory, if specified, at account creation. Will creating the account in powershell do the same? Kurt On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 15:11, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You can do that with the AD PowerShell module (and with ADSI in earlier versions of PS, and with dsmod.exe in cmd.exe as far as that is concerned). I thought the question was about the best way to CREATE the home directory. Not to assign it. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? Now that I have been bitten by the PowerShell bug, there is probably a PS cmdlet to do this: Get-Users -OnlyCitrixUsers | Set-HomeDirectory -Location Network -RootPath \\Server\Share -DriveLetter H: You think? :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? I like this KB: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816313 In my part of the computer world, I let Group Policy do the work for TS/RDS/Citrix users. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Subject: Creating home directories - Best method? We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Creating home directories - Best method?
AD doesn't create home folders... The thing in ADUC is a feature of the MMC tab. Anyone arbitrarily populating the homeDirectory attribute in AD isn't going to trigger a magic folder creation. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Creating home directories - Best method? Let AD do it. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Creating home directories - Best method? We're planning out our migration from Novell to AD, and one of the things we're looking at is home directories. Is it best to create them through AD (the Profile tab), or through Group Policy? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: IIS WMI and PowerShell
Are you using IIS6 or 7 or 7.5? I'm pretty (99.9%) sure that UNCPassword is not stored in clear text - you are just able to retrieve it in clear text if you use ADSI or WMI (and have the requisite permissions). Cheers Ken From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2011 6:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IIS WMI and PowerShell Thought I would pass this along in the hope that it may save someone some time: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff730973.aspx So I'm trying to retrieve some settings on virtual directories on an internal FTP sever we have. I've been trying to use PowerShell as much as possible instead of VBScript, so I fire it up and start working at it. Eventually decide on something like this: get-wmiobject -Class IIsFtpVirtualDirSetting -NameSpace root\MicrosoftIISv2 -Computer FTPSERVERNAME And I get Access Denied, so I try another namespace on the same server: get-wmiobject -list -NameSpace root\Microsoftnlb -Computer FTPSERVERNAME Works perfectly. Huh?. try another. All the namespaces enumerate except for MicrosoftIISv2. Again, huh? So I finally Google it and and found the link above, which explains it in detail. Ugh.. If you are still with me here, and interested, try enumerating the UNCUserName and UNCPassWord. I couldn't believe what I was seeing when I did that. I know it's FTP and across the wire the passwords are sent in clear text, but I had no idea they were stored that way as well. Not good. Thanks for listening. Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.commailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin