Re: Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security Patches - Problem Solved?

[Rod Trent]

Hahaha...

I just know SCCM will make updating computers easier for you.
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J Kyo  wrote:

Stop it already!!! You sound like my boss! We're going to SCCM R3 as soon as I 
get it configured.  Did he pay you to write that?

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Rod Trent  wrote:

So, I see you’re using an older version a management tool, too.  What version?  
2.0?  2003?

 

From: J Kyo [mailto:jky...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 7:43 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security 
Patches - Problem Solved? 

 

Thank you to all who responded and offered advice!

 

I'm pretty sure I have it.  I didn't force a reboot when composing my SMS 
package.  And since a couple of the updates affected IE, it required a reboot 
(which I didn't supply).  DUH!!!

 

I can't reboot now to see if that solves the problem (the servers are 
production and not allowed to restart until after hours.)

 

THANK YOU ALL!

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:19 PM, J Kyo  wrote:

I know we should, I have a handful of IE 6, the majority are ie 7 and a few 
ie8.  

 

Didn't think about AV.

Yes, downloading manually has not been an issue on the few I've run manually, 
pushing patches with sms. 

Haven't scanned yet.  

Thank you!

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Rod Trent  wrote:

Sounds like ie is corrupt for some reason – maybe AV stopped it from updating 
successfully.  

 

Have you scanned for malware/Trojans?

 

Have you attempted to download the patches and apply manually to test?

 

BTW: you really need to move away from IE6.

 

From: J Kyo [mailto:jky...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 7:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security Patches

 

I am running W2K3 SP2 on Dell and HP servers.  After installing this month's 
security patchs (all that are applicable to my servers) when I click Microsoft 
Update, my IE Window opens then closes.  I see this in my event log:  

 

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: (100)
Event ID: 1000
Date:  6/17/2011
Time:  3:54:56 PM
User:  N/A
Computer: :
Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 6.0.3790.3959, faulting module 
unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at 
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

 

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Re: Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security Patches - Problem Solved?

[Andrew S. Baker]

If everything is headed your way, then you may be facing in the wrong
direction...

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Sent from my Motorola Droid
 On Jun 17, 2011 7:55 PM, "J Kyo"  wrote:
> Stop it already!!! You sound like my boss! We're going to SCCM R3 as soon
as
> I get it configured. Did he pay you to write that?
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Rod Trent  wrote:
>
>> So, I see you’re using an older version a management tool, too. What
>> version? 2.0? 2003?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* J Kyo [mailto:jky...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 7:43 PM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS
Security
>> Patches - Problem Solved?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thank you to all who responded and offered advice!
>>
>> 
>>
>> I'm pretty sure I have it. I didn't force a reboot when composing my SMS
>> package. And since a couple of the updates affected IE, it required a
>> reboot (which I didn't supply). DUH!!!
>>
>> 
>>
>> I can't reboot now to see if that solves the problem (the servers are
>> production and not allowed to restart until after hours.)
>>
>> 
>>
>> THANK YOU ALL!
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:19 PM, J Kyo  wrote:
>>
>> I know we should, I have a handful of IE 6, the majority are ie 7 and a
few
>> ie8. 
>>
>> 
>>
>> Didn't think about AV.
>>
>> Yes, downloading manually has not been an issue on the few I've run
>> manually, pushing patches with sms. 
>>
>> Haven't scanned yet. 
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Rod Trent 
wrote:
>> 
>>
>> Sounds like ie is corrupt for some reason – maybe AV stopped it from
>> updating successfully. 
>>
>> 
>>
>> Have you scanned for malware/Trojans?
>>
>> 
>>
>> Have you attempted to download the patches and apply manually to
test?
>>
>> 
>>
>> BTW: you really need to move away from IE6.
>>
>> 
>>
>> *From:* J Kyo [mailto:jky...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 7:00 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security
>> Patches
>>
>> 
>>
>> I am running W2K3 SP2 on Dell and HP servers. After installing this
>> month's security patchs (all that are applicable to my servers) when I
click
>> Microsoft Update, my IE Window opens then closes. I see this in my event
>> log: 
>>
>> 
>>
>> Event Type: Error
>> Event Source: Application Error
>> Event Category: (100)
>> Event ID: 1000
>> Date: 6/17/2011
>> Time: 3:54:56 PM
>> User: N/A
>> Computer: :
>> Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 6.0.3790.3959, faulting module
>> unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x.
>>
>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>
>> 
>>
>> Is anyone else experiencing this issue?
>>
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Re: Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security Patches - Problem Solved?

[J Kyo]

Stop it already!!! You sound like my boss! We're going to SCCM R3 as soon as
I get it configured.  Did he pay you to write that?
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Rod Trent  wrote:

>  So, I see you’re using an older version a management tool, too.  What
> version?  2.0?  2003?
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* J Kyo [mailto:jky...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 7:43 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security
> Patches - Problem Solved?
>
>   ** **
>
> Thank you to all who responded and offered advice!
>
>  
>
> I'm pretty sure I have it.  I didn't force a reboot when composing my SMS
> package.  And since a couple of the updates affected IE, it required a
> reboot (which I didn't supply).  DUH!!!
>
>  
>
> I can't reboot now to see if that solves the problem (the servers are
> production and not allowed to restart until after hours.)
>
>  
>
> THANK YOU ALL!
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:19 PM, J Kyo  wrote:
>
> I know we should, I have a handful of IE 6, the majority are ie 7 and a few
> ie8.  
>
>  
>
> Didn't think about AV.
>
> Yes, downloading manually has not been an issue on the few I've run
> manually, pushing patches with sms. 
>
> Haven't scanned yet.  
>
> Thank you!
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Rod Trent  wrote:
> 
>
>  Sounds like ie is corrupt for some reason – maybe AV stopped it from
> updating successfully.  
>
>  
>
> Have you scanned for malware/Trojans?
>
>  
>
> Have you attempted to download the patches and apply manually to test?
>
>  
>
> BTW: you really need to move away from IE6.
>
>  
>
> *From:* J Kyo [mailto:jky...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 7:00 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security
> Patches
>
>  
>
> I am running W2K3 SP2 on Dell and HP servers.  After installing this
> month's security patchs (all that are applicable to my servers) when I click
> Microsoft Update, my IE Window opens then closes.  I see this in my event
> log:  
>
>  
>
> Event Type: Error
> Event Source: Application Error
> Event Category: (100)
> Event ID: 1000
> Date:  6/17/2011
> Time:  3:54:56 PM
> User:  N/A
> Computer: :
> Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 6.0.3790.3959, faulting module
> unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x.
>
> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>
>  
>
> Is anyone else experiencing this issue?
>
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RE: Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security Patches - Problem Solved?

[Rod Trent]

So, I see you're using an older version a management tool, too.  What
version?  2.0?  2003?

 

From: J Kyo [mailto:jky...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 7:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security
Patches - Problem Solved?

 

Thank you to all who responded and offered advice!

 

I'm pretty sure I have it.  I didn't force a reboot when composing my SMS
package.  And since a couple of the updates affected IE, it required a
reboot (which I didn't supply).  DUH!!!

 

I can't reboot now to see if that solves the problem (the servers are
production and not allowed to restart until after hours.)

 

THANK YOU ALL!

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:19 PM, J Kyo  wrote:

I know we should, I have a handful of IE 6, the majority are ie 7 and a few
ie8.  

 

Didn't think about AV.

Yes, downloading manually has not been an issue on the few I've run
manually, pushing patches with sms. 

Haven't scanned yet.  

Thank you!

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Rod Trent  wrote:

Sounds like ie is corrupt for some reason - maybe AV stopped it from
updating successfully.  

 

Have you scanned for malware/Trojans?

 

Have you attempted to download the patches and apply manually to test?

 

BTW: you really need to move away from IE6.

 

From: J Kyo [mailto:jky...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 7:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security Patches

 

I am running W2K3 SP2 on Dell and HP servers.  After installing this month's
security patchs (all that are applicable to my servers) when I click
Microsoft Update, my IE Window opens then closes.  I see this in my event
log:  

 

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: (100)
Event ID: 1000
Date:  6/17/2011
Time:  3:54:56 PM
User:  N/A
Computer: :
Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 6.0.3790.3959, faulting module
unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

 

Is anyone else experiencing this issue?

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Re: Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security Patches - Problem Solved?

[J Kyo]

Thank you to all who responded and offered advice!

I'm pretty sure I have it.  I didn't force a reboot when composing my SMS
package.  And since a couple of the updates affected IE, it required a
reboot (which I didn't supply).  DUH!!!

I can't reboot now to see if that solves the problem (the servers are
production and not allowed to restart until after hours.)

THANK YOU ALL!
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:19 PM, J Kyo  wrote:

>  I know we should, I have a handful of IE 6, the majority are ie 7 and a
> few ie8.
>
> Didn't think about AV.
> Yes, downloading manually has not been an issue on the few I've run
> manually, pushing patches with sms.
> Haven't scanned yet.
> Thank you!
>  On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Rod Trent wrote:
>
>>  Sounds like ie is corrupt for some reason – maybe AV stopped it from
>> updating successfully.  
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Have you scanned for malware/Trojans?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Have you attempted to download the patches and apply manually to test?***
>> *
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> BTW: you really need to move away from IE6.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* J Kyo [mailto:jky...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 7:00 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security
>> Patches
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I am running W2K3 SP2 on Dell and HP servers.  After installing this
>> month's security patchs (all that are applicable to my servers) when I click
>> Microsoft Update, my IE Window opens then closes.  I see this in my event
>> log:  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Event Type: Error
>> Event Source: Application Error
>> Event Category: (100)
>> Event ID: 1000
>> Date:  6/17/2011
>> Time:  3:54:56 PM
>> User:  N/A
>> Computer: :
>> Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 6.0.3790.3959, faulting module
>> unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x.
>>
>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Is anyone else experiencing this issue?
>>
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>>
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Re: Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security Patches

[J Kyo]

I know we should, I have a handful of IE 6, the majority are ie 7 and a few
ie8.

Didn't think about AV.
Yes, downloading manually has not been an issue on the few I've run
manually, pushing patches with sms.
Haven't scanned yet.
Thank you!
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Rod Trent  wrote:

>  Sounds like ie is corrupt for some reason – maybe AV stopped it from
> updating successfully.  
>
> ** **
>
> Have you scanned for malware/Trojans?
>
> ** **
>
> Have you attempted to download the patches and apply manually to test?
>
> ** **
>
> BTW: you really need to move away from IE6.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* J Kyo [mailto:jky...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 7:00 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security
> Patches
>
> ** **
>
> I am running W2K3 SP2 on Dell and HP servers.  After installing this
> month's security patchs (all that are applicable to my servers) when I click
> Microsoft Update, my IE Window opens then closes.  I see this in my event
> log:  
>
>  
>
> Event Type: Error
> Event Source: Application Error
> Event Category: (100)
> Event ID: 1000
> Date:  6/17/2011
> Time:  3:54:56 PM
> User:  N/A
> Computer: :
> Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 6.0.3790.3959, faulting module
> unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x.
>
> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>
>  
>
> Is anyone else experiencing this issue?
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
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Re: Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security Patches

[Steven Peck]

GAH!  I completely missed the ie6 part.
Join the future: http://www.theie6countdown.com/default.aspx
UPgrading from IE6 will save a geeks life someday

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Rod Trent  wrote:

> Sounds like ie is corrupt for some reason – maybe AV stopped it from
> updating successfully.
>
>
>
> Have you scanned for malware/Trojans?
>
>
>
> Have you attempted to download the patches and apply manually to test?
>
>
>
> BTW: you really need to move away from IE6.
>
>
>
> *From:* J Kyo [mailto:jky...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 7:00 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security
> Patches
>
>
>
> I am running W2K3 SP2 on Dell and HP servers.  After installing this
> month's security patchs (all that are applicable to my servers) when I click
> Microsoft Update, my IE Window opens then closes.  I see this in my event
> log:
>
>
>
> Event Type: Error
> Event Source: Application Error
> Event Category: (100)
> Event ID: 1000
> Date:  6/17/2011
> Time:  3:54:56 PM
> User:  N/A
> Computer: :
> Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 6.0.3790.3959, faulting module
> unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x.
>
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> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
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Re: Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security Patches

[J Kyo]

Thanks Steve.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:

> We have full patching on around 600 servers in our dev (wed) and testing
> (thur) environments and haven't add any reported issues yet.  Since we do a
> full patch on production on Saturday it they've seen anything it's reported
> by now.
>
> We run HP servers, blades and dl class some scattered g1's left, mor in the
> g4/5/6 range and a handful of g7's.
>
> Wasn't there an optional patch a few months ago about 'without this patch
> you may have problems with future updates'?  Vaguly remember reading about
> it but can't find any answer in my all to brief about to leave the office
> searches.
>
> Steven Peck
> http://www.blkmtn.org
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:59 PM, J Kyo  wrote:
>
>> I am running W2K3 SP2 on Dell and HP servers.  After installing this
>> month's security patchs (all that are applicable to my servers) when I click
>> Microsoft Update, my IE Window opens then closes.  I see this in my event
>> log:
>>
>> Event Type: Error
>> Event Source: Application Error
>> Event Category: (100)
>> Event ID: 1000
>> Date:  6/17/2011
>> Time:  3:54:56 PM
>> User:  N/A
>> Computer: :
>> Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 6.0.3790.3959, faulting module
>> unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x.
>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>
>> Is anyone else experiencing this issue?
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RE: Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security Patches

[Rod Trent]

Sounds like ie is corrupt for some reason - maybe AV stopped it from
updating successfully.  

 

Have you scanned for malware/Trojans?

 

Have you attempted to download the patches and apply manually to test?

 

BTW: you really need to move away from IE6.

 

From: J Kyo [mailto:jky...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 7:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security Patches

 

I am running W2K3 SP2 on Dell and HP servers.  After installing this month's
security patchs (all that are applicable to my servers) when I click
Microsoft Update, my IE Window opens then closes.  I see this in my event
log:  

 

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: (100)
Event ID: 1000
Date:  6/17/2011
Time:  3:54:56 PM
User:  N/A
Computer: :
Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 6.0.3790.3959, faulting module
unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

 

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Re: Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security Patches

[Steven Peck]

We have full patching on around 600 servers in our dev (wed) and testing
(thur) environments and haven't add any reported issues yet.  Since we do a
full patch on production on Saturday it they've seen anything it's reported
by now.

We run HP servers, blades and dl class some scattered g1's left, mor in the
g4/5/6 range and a handful of g7's.

Wasn't there an optional patch a few months ago about 'without this patch
you may have problems with future updates'?  Vaguly remember reading about
it but can't find any answer in my all to brief about to leave the office
searches.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org



On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:59 PM, J Kyo  wrote:

> I am running W2K3 SP2 on Dell and HP servers.  After installing this
> month's security patchs (all that are applicable to my servers) when I click
> Microsoft Update, my IE Window opens then closes.  I see this in my event
> log:
>
> Event Type: Error
> Event Source: Application Error
> Event Category: (100)
> Event ID: 1000
> Date:  6/17/2011
> Time:  3:54:56 PM
> User:  N/A
> Computer: :
> Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 6.0.3790.3959, faulting module
> unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x.
> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>
> Is anyone else experiencing this issue?
>
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Unable to use Microsoft Update after installing MS Security Patches

[J Kyo]

I am running W2K3 SP2 on Dell and HP servers.  After installing this month's
security patchs (all that are applicable to my servers) when I click
Microsoft Update, my IE Window opens then closes.  I see this in my event
log:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: (100)
Event ID: 1000
Date:  6/17/2011
Time:  3:54:56 PM
User:  N/A
Computer: :
Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 6.0.3790.3959, faulting module
unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

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Re: Here's an example of Symantec's brilliance

[Jonathan Link]

Your optimism depresses me.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:13 PM, David Lum  wrote:

>  “Certain new features in the PGP Desktop version 10.1 client require the
> addition of preferences in the Consumer Policy options For information on
> the features that require additional preferences, and for instructions on
> how to add these preferences, see *http://support.pgp.com/?faq=2212*.”
>
> ** **
>
> Go ahead, try and get instructions from that link, (the link is in the PDF
> of the release notes that is in the file you download, as well as on
> Symantec’s website). Only a Google search of that URL leads you to the
> document you really want here:
>
> https://pgp.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2212/kw/2212/session/L3NpZC9qdmlwaE13aw%3D%3D
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Brilliant. Maybe by next year they’ll have the redirects sorted out.
>
> *David Lum*
> Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 //* *Mobile 503.267.9764
>
> ** **
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Re: OT: BB Playbook

[Kevin Lundy]

It can do both.  The bridge browser only works thru the BES like a proxy.

On 6/17/11, Cameron  wrote:
> The PB doesn't just use the data package from the BB (which can browse the
> internet)?
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately I'm not a BES admin, but I do know there is something you
>> have to do on the BES to enable it.  Until you can browse from the BB, you
>> won't be able to browse from the PB.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Cameron  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I can hit internal sites from the BES...No, I can't hit internal
>>> sites from my BB (Torch...not a PB).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:
>>>
 You have to have it bridged and use the bridge browser.  And of course
 your BES has to have that configured as well.  Can you hit internal
 sites
 from the BB?


 On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Cameron
 wrote:

> Ok...you just got my full attention
> "Access to internal sites"Pardon my ignorance/innocenceyou can
> hit internal sites with your BB? What did you have to configure for
> that? I
> always thought that option should be there since we have an internal
> BES...but didn't look into it.
>
> Cheers!
> Cameron
>
>  On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:
>
>>  We have one device that we are using to evaluate for those exact
>> reasons.  I've only had it a couple of days.
>>
>> I originally liked the marketing blurb about how the bridging protects
>> documents.  When the bridge is broken, nothing remains on the Playbook
>> (think if someone walked away from the PB at Starbucks). However, I'm
>> disappointed in how that actually works.  It works by downloading
>> documents
>> to the SD card on the BB.  We have our BES to configure encryption on
>> all
>> BB.  We haven't found that the PB can access BB encrypted files.  That
>> may
>> be our lack of time with it, but seems to be a weakness.
>>
>> We are heavy Sharepoint users.  Access to internal sites is OK via the
>> bridge browser.  But I downloaded an app from the appstore that is
>> supposed
>> to optimize performance of Sharepoint sites to the PB.  Works very
>> well for
>> public Sharepoint sites.  However, it doesn't work over the bridge -
>> the
>> vendor says it is a current RIM bridge limitation.
>>
>> I like the multitasking, and the HDMI out.  I actually like the
>> smaller
>> size compared to iPad.
>>
>> I haven't tried VPN yet.
>>
>>   On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Cameron
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good afternoon all!
>>>
>>> One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for
>>> the sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch
>>> (we are
>>> using BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging
>>> between the
>>> BB and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to
>>> connect to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client?
>>> Pros/Cons?
>>>
>>> Thanks as always!
>>>
>>> Cameron
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Re: OT: BB Playbook

[Pete Howard]

Speaking of RIM..
"CHART OF THE DAY: RIM's Astounding Collapse In The U.S.  You can see RIM's 
share of the U.S. market collapse right around the time Verizon decides to 
throw 
its weight behind Android. As RIM's marketshare in the U.S. collapsed, so did 
its average selling price per 
phone"http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-rims-astounding-collapse-in-the-us-2011-6?utm_source=Triggermail&utm_medium=email&utm_term=SAI%20Chart%20Of%20The%20Day&utm_campaign=SAI_COTD_061711#ixzz1PZR3rUjU





From: Cameron 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 4:59:06 PM
Subject: Re: OT: BB Playbook


The PB doesn't just use the data package from the BB (which can browse the 
internet)?

 
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:

Unfortunately I'm not a BES admin, but I do know there is something you have to 
do on the BES to enable it.  Until you can browse from the BB, you won't be 
able 
to browse from the PB. 

>
>
>
>On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Cameron  wrote:
>
>Yes, I can hit internal sites from the BES...No, I can't hit internal sites 
>from 
>my BB (Torch...not a PB).
>>
>>
>> 
>>On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:
>>
>>You have to have it bridged and use the bridge browser.  And of course your 
>>BES 
>>has to have that configured as well.  Can you hit internal sites from the BB? 
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Cameron  wrote:
>>>
>>>Ok...you just got my full attention
"Access to internal sites"Pardon my ignorance/innocenceyou can hit 
internal sites with your BB? What did you have to configure for that? I 
always 
thought that option should be there since we have an internal BES...but 
didn't 
look into it.
 
Cheers!
Cameron


On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:

We have one device that we are using to evaluate for those exact reasons.  
I've 
only had it a couple of days.
> 
>I originally liked the marketing blurb about how the bridging protects 
>documents.  When the bridge is broken, nothing remains on the Playbook 
>(think if 
>someone walked away from the PB at Starbucks). However, I'm disappointed 
>in how 
>that actually works.  It works by downloading documents to the SD card on 
>the 
>BB.  We have our BES to configure encryption on all BB.  We haven't found 
>that 
>the PB can access BB encrypted files.  That may be our lack of time with 
>it, but 
>seems to be a weakness.
> 
>We are heavy Sharepoint users.  Access to internal sites is OK via the 
>bridge 
>browser.  But I downloaded an app from the appstore that is supposed to 
>optimize 
>performance of Sharepoint sites to the PB.  Works very well for public 
>Sharepoint sites.  However, it doesn't work over the bridge - the vendor 
>says it 
>is a current RIM bridge limitation.
> 
>I like the multitasking, and the HDMI out.  I actually like the smaller 
>size 
>compared to iPad.
> 
>I haven't tried VPN yet.
>
>
>On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Cameron  wrote:
>
>Good afternoon all!
>> 
>>One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for the 
>>sales 
>>droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we are using 
>>BES 
>>5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between the BB and 
>>Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to connect to 
>>their 
>>home network and then run some sort of VNC client? Pros/Cons?
>> 
>>Thanks as always!
>> 
>>Cameron
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Re: OT: BB Playbook

[Cameron]

The PB doesn't just use the data package from the BB (which can browse the
internet)?


On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:

> Unfortunately I'm not a BES admin, but I do know there is something you
> have to do on the BES to enable it.  Until you can browse from the BB, you
> won't be able to browse from the PB.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Cameron  wrote:
>
>> Yes, I can hit internal sites from the BES...No, I can't hit internal
>> sites from my BB (Torch...not a PB).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:
>>
>>> You have to have it bridged and use the bridge browser.  And of course
>>> your BES has to have that configured as well.  Can you hit internal sites
>>> from the BB?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Cameron wrote:
>>>
 Ok...you just got my full attention
 "Access to internal sites"Pardon my ignorance/innocenceyou can
 hit internal sites with your BB? What did you have to configure for that? I
 always thought that option should be there since we have an internal
 BES...but didn't look into it.

 Cheers!
 Cameron

  On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:

>  We have one device that we are using to evaluate for those exact
> reasons.  I've only had it a couple of days.
>
> I originally liked the marketing blurb about how the bridging protects
> documents.  When the bridge is broken, nothing remains on the Playbook
> (think if someone walked away from the PB at Starbucks). However, I'm
> disappointed in how that actually works.  It works by downloading 
> documents
> to the SD card on the BB.  We have our BES to configure encryption on all
> BB.  We haven't found that the PB can access BB encrypted files.  That may
> be our lack of time with it, but seems to be a weakness.
>
> We are heavy Sharepoint users.  Access to internal sites is OK via the
> bridge browser.  But I downloaded an app from the appstore that is 
> supposed
> to optimize performance of Sharepoint sites to the PB.  Works very well 
> for
> public Sharepoint sites.  However, it doesn't work over the bridge - the
> vendor says it is a current RIM bridge limitation.
>
> I like the multitasking, and the HDMI out.  I actually like the smaller
> size compared to iPad.
>
> I haven't tried VPN yet.
>
>   On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Cameron 
> wrote:
>
>> Good afternoon all!
>>
>> One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for
>> the sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we 
>> are
>> using BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between 
>> the
>> BB and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to
>> connect to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client?
>> Pros/Cons?
>>
>> Thanks as always!
>>
>> Cameron
>>
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Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit

[Don Kuhlman]

Glenn, does that mean as long as the share names match, then the users will 
still be able to print (no user impact) without re-creating their existing 
printers, even if the backend drivers are 64 bit and may be differently named?

That would be great - because now I've just noticed a new issue - it looks like 
the concept of exporting the hklm\system\currentcontrolset\lanmanserver\shares 
key to grab the shares isn't working going from 32 bit to 64 bit.  I may have 
to 
manually recreate all the shares too now.

Thanks much!

Don





From: Glen Johnson 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 3:19:35 PM
Subject: RE: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit


That’s what we did.
Match share names, although we are still running both servers.
I never thought that maybe I could shutdown the old 32 bit server, rename the 
64bit server same as the old one and be golder.
Might have worked, but we are too far along not to try it.
 
 
From:Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
 
Thanks Glen. That's exactly what I'm seeing now - I've tried to download every 
flavor of 64 bit drivers from the mfg web site, then install them on the 32 bit 
server and it keeps failing - comes back with something to the effect that "the 
specified location does not contain the driver  x x for the 
specified processor architecture"
 
I wonder if I should try to install the 64 bit drivers on the 64 bit server and 
then make sure the names match (if I can do that) and then try the migration 
again?
 
Don
 



From:Glen Johnson 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 3:00:38 PM
Subject: RE: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
My experience has been that the x32 and x64 bit drivers have to be the same 
name 
and version, but my experience was on a 64bit server.
We were never able to get the x64 drivers to work on an x32 server.
 
From:Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 2:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
 
Thanks John. I went hunting for 64 bit versions of HP, and Lanier drivers to 
download and install on the 2003 server, but when I go into Printers to add 
drivers after extracting these "universal" drivers that said 64 bit, the server 
is telling me that these aren't the right files for the selected architecture, 
and then it dies.
 
Wierd, as both HP and Lanier sites said these were the drivers for the specific 
printer model - eg a "Universal" driver for 64 bit.
 
Don
 



From:John Cook 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 12:04:28 PM
Subject: RE: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
IIRC that is correct, it’s been a while since I did it.
 
 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
 
From:Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 12:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
 
Thanks Cameron.  Actually we're not having problems with the file server 
rename/file copy piece, it's getting the printers from the old server to come 
over to the new server.  What I'm seeing seems to indicate that we have to 
install 64 bit drivers on the old server for each particular printer that 
exists 
and then do the migration that way to make the printers come over to where the 
64 bit server will re-create or import them.
 
Don
 



From:Cameron 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 10:25:50 AM
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
Why not just use a new name for the server? If you are using a login script, 
tis 
easy enough to change user by user...and takes the pressure off of you.
 
Just a thought...
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Don Kuhlman  wrote:
Hi folks. Happy Friday.
 
At the new gig now and have been assigned another project which I haven't 
worked 
on before.  We're migrating a 2003 32 bit Windows file/print server to 2008R2.  
I've never had to move printers/print servers before because we never used 
Windows Print servers at old j0b.
 
My question is this - to migrate printers/print drivers from 32 bit 2003 server 
to 64 bit 2008R2, do you have to first put 64 bit drivers on the old server 
that 
has the 32 bit drivers, and do they have to have the exact same names as the 
existing 32 bit drivers in order to migrate successfully to 64 bit?
 
Thanks!
 
Here is the background (long) synopsis...
 
I've been researching t

Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[Jonathan Link]

Just tried (it's actually a different email address) and those credentials
don't work for me.



On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:29 PM, David Lum  wrote:

> https://pdc.pgp.com/login ?
>
> ** **
>
> That still works if you use your LEMS account (not Symantec!) credentials,
> that’s where I downloaded my updates from.
>
> …and now I see I never had to contact them in the first place…. 
>
> ** **
>
> Dave “note to self, download the .PUP, not the others….” Lum
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 1:24 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update
>
> ** **
>
> Ok.  So they really symanteced this up fast.  I tried to get the patch and
> was given a link to the pdc, which doesn't have anything in it.
>
>  
>
> Love it.
>
>
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:11 PM, David Lum  wrote:
>
> +1. 
>
>  
>
> We went to PGP about a year before they announced Symantec was buying them,
> and central management was a requirement.
>
>  
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 11:33 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update
>
>  
>
> We are a legacy customer of Symatec.  It wasn't the case that I chose PGP
> because of Symantec.
>
>  
>
> At the time I was evaluationg options, TrueCrypt didn't have any sort of
> management functionality...
>
> Has that changed?  I like having a management passphrase that can be
> changed centrally...
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Ben Schorr  wrote:
> 
>
> We use TrueCrypt for our whole disk encryption. I prefer not to deal with
> Symantec if I don’t have to.
>
>  
>
> Ben M. Schorr
>
> Roland Schorr & Tower
>
> www.rolandschorr.com | www.officeforlawyers.com | Twitter: @bschorr
>
>  
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 11:27
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update
>
>  
>
> So do I, drat.
>
> I pushed out a couple of machines without adequate testing,  Actually was
> urged to do it, because I'm going on vacation next week midweek, through the
> following week, then it's 4th of July weekend.
>
> I hadn't walked through the encryption with either person, yet...  Thank
> goodness.
>
>
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:14 PM, David Lum  wrote:
>
> We nuke and pave, baby. We leave any diagnostic partitions, but the OS
> partition gets blasted and made fresh like a nice Summer’s Eve…
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 11:06 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update
>
>  
>
> Ok.  So I just verified that it is the same for E5420's stock...
>
> Do you typically uninstall the Dell apps, or did you in this case?
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:36 PM, David Lum  wrote:
>
> Dell Latitude E6420
>
> PGP client version 10.0.2.99
>
>  
>
> Symptom. Client installs fine, hard drive gets encrypted, but then when you
> reboot: BOOM. Nothing.
> http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH158600*
> ***
>
>  
>
> Dave
>
>  
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 10:01 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update
>
>  
>
> Out of curiosity, what model Dell notebooks and what version of PGP are you
> running?
>
>  
>
>
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum  wrote:***
> *
>
> Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for
> something that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole Disk
> Encryption (or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I have
> downloaded their latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add it to
> the PGP Universal Server.
>
>  
>
> Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can’t get the answer
> unless I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.
>
>  
>
> I called them at 11am local, said I’d get a call right back, they left me a
> VM at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM…
>
>  
>
> Dave
>
>  
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support
>
>  
>
> Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites a$$.
> Thank you, Symantec.
>
> *David Lum*
> Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 //* *Mobile 503.267.9764
>
>

RE: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[Crawford, Scott]

+100

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 3:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

They were already annoying in the 20th century...



ASB (Professional Bio)
Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...


On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Ben Scott 
mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 Symantec has become the Computer Associates of the 21st century.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
> Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for
> something that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole Disk
> Encryption (or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I have
> downloaded their latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add it to
> the PGP Universal Server.
>
>
>
> Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can't get the answer
> unless I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.
>
>
>
> I called them at 11am local, said I'd get a call right back, they left me a
> VM at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM...
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support
>
>
>
> Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites a$$.
> Thank you, Symantec.
>
> David Lum
> Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 // Mobile 503.267.9764
>

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RE: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[David Lum]

https://pdc.pgp.com/login ?

That still works if you use your LEMS account (not Symantec!) credentials, 
that's where I downloaded my updates from.
...and now I see I never had to contact them in the first place

Dave "note to self, download the .PUP, not the others" Lum


From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 1:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

Ok.  So they really symanteced this up fast.  I tried to get the patch and was 
given a link to the pdc, which doesn't have anything in it.

Love it.



On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:11 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
+1.

We went to PGP about a year before they announced Symantec was buying them, and 
central management was a requirement.

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:33 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

We are a legacy customer of Symatec.  It wasn't the case that I chose PGP 
because of Symantec.

At the time I was evaluationg options, TrueCrypt didn't have any sort of 
management functionality...
Has that changed?  I like having a management passphrase that can be changed 
centrally...
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Ben Schorr 
mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com>> wrote:
We use TrueCrypt for our whole disk encryption. I prefer not to deal with 
Symantec if I don't have to.

Ben M. Schorr
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com | 
www.officeforlawyers.com | Twitter: @bschorr

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:27

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

So do I, drat.
I pushed out a couple of machines without adequate testing,  Actually was urged 
to do it, because I'm going on vacation next week midweek, through the 
following week, then it's 4th of July weekend.
I hadn't walked through the encryption with either person, yet...  Thank 
goodness.



On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:14 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
We nuke and pave, baby. We leave any diagnostic partitions, but the OS 
partition gets blasted and made fresh like a nice Summer's Eve...


From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:06 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

Ok.  So I just verified that it is the same for E5420's stock...
Do you typically uninstall the Dell apps, or did you in this case?


On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:36 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
Dell Latitude E6420
PGP client version 10.0.2.99

Symptom. Client installs fine, hard drive gets encrypted, but then when you 
reboot: BOOM. Nothing.
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH158600

Dave

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:01 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

Out of curiosity, what model Dell notebooks and what version of PGP are you 
running?




On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for something 
that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole Disk Encryption 
(or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I have downloaded their 
latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add it to the PGP Universal 
Server.

Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can't get the answer unless 
I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.

I called them at 11am local, said I'd get a call right back, they left me a VM 
at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM...

Dave

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support

Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites a$$. 
Thank you, Symantec.
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Mobile 503.267.9764

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Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[Andrew S. Baker]

They were already annoying in the 20th century...


*ASB *(Professional Bio )
Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...




On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

>  Symantec has become the Computer Associates of the 21st century.
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> > Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for
> > something that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole
> Disk
> > Encryption (or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I have
> > downloaded their latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add it to
> > the PGP Universal Server.
> >
> >
> >
> > Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can’t get the answer
> > unless I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.
> >
> >
> >
> > I called them at 11am local, said I’d get a call right back, they left me
> a
> > VM at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM…
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support
> >
> >
> >
> > Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites
> a$$.
> > Thank you, Symantec.
> >
> > David Lum
> > Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> > Office 503.548.5229 // Mobile 503.267.9764
> >
>

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Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[Jonathan Link]

Ok.  So they really symanteced this up fast.  I tried to get the patch and
was given a link to the pdc, which doesn't have anything in it.

Love it.



On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:11 PM, David Lum  wrote:

> +1. 
>
> ** **
>
> We went to PGP about a year before they announced Symantec was buying them,
> and central management was a requirement.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 11:33 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update
>
> ** **
>
> We are a legacy customer of Symatec.  It wasn't the case that I chose PGP
> because of Symantec.
>
>  
>
> At the time I was evaluationg options, TrueCrypt didn't have any sort of
> management functionality...
>
> Has that changed?  I like having a management passphrase that can be
> changed centrally...
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Ben Schorr  wrote:
> 
>
> We use TrueCrypt for our whole disk encryption. I prefer not to deal with
> Symantec if I don’t have to.
>
>  
>
> Ben M. Schorr
>
> Roland Schorr & Tower
>
> www.rolandschorr.com | www.officeforlawyers.com | Twitter: @bschorr
>
>  
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 11:27
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update
>
>  
>
> So do I, drat.
>
> I pushed out a couple of machines without adequate testing,  Actually was
> urged to do it, because I'm going on vacation next week midweek, through the
> following week, then it's 4th of July weekend.
>
> I hadn't walked through the encryption with either person, yet...  Thank
> goodness.
>
>
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:14 PM, David Lum  wrote:
>
> We nuke and pave, baby. We leave any diagnostic partitions, but the OS
> partition gets blasted and made fresh like a nice Summer’s Eve…
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 11:06 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update
>
>  
>
> Ok.  So I just verified that it is the same for E5420's stock...
>
> Do you typically uninstall the Dell apps, or did you in this case?
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:36 PM, David Lum  wrote:
>
> Dell Latitude E6420
>
> PGP client version 10.0.2.99
>
>  
>
> Symptom. Client installs fine, hard drive gets encrypted, but then when you
> reboot: BOOM. Nothing.
> http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH158600*
> ***
>
>  
>
> Dave
>
>  
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 10:01 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update
>
>  
>
> Out of curiosity, what model Dell notebooks and what version of PGP are you
> running?
>
>  
>
>
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum  wrote:***
> *
>
> Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for
> something that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole Disk
> Encryption (or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I have
> downloaded their latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add it to
> the PGP Universal Server.
>
>  
>
> Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can’t get the answer
> unless I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.
>
>  
>
> I called them at 11am local, said I’d get a call right back, they left me a
> VM at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM…
>
>  
>
> Dave
>
>  
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support
>
>  
>
> Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites a$$.
> Thank you, Symantec.
>
> *David Lum*
> Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 //* *Mobile 503.267.9764
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
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> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>  
>
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Terminal Server printing

[David Lum]

Sorry if I have I asked this already (sense of déjà vu).  To allow Terminal 
Server users to print I need to log in as admin and install the printers' 
drivers, then make sure TS sessions are allowed to connect and print to their 
local printer, correct?
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Mobile 503.267.9764


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RE: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit

[Glen Johnson]

That’s what we did.
Match share names, although we are still running both servers.
I never thought that maybe I could shutdown the old 32 bit server, rename the 
64bit server same as the old one and be golder.
Might have worked, but we are too far along not to try it.


From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit

Thanks Glen. That's exactly what I'm seeing now - I've tried to download every 
flavor of 64 bit drivers from the mfg web site, then install them on the 32 bit 
server and it keeps failing - comes back with something to the effect that "the 
specified location does not contain the driver  x x for the 
specified processor architecture"

I wonder if I should try to install the 64 bit drivers on the 64 bit server and 
then make sure the names match (if I can do that) and then try the migration 
again?

Don


From: Glen Johnson 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 3:00:38 PM
Subject: RE: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
My experience has been that the x32 and x64 bit drivers have to be the same 
name and version, but my experience was on a 64bit server.
We were never able to get the x64 drivers to work on an x32 server.

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 2:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit

Thanks John. I went hunting for 64 bit versions of HP, and Lanier drivers to 
download and install on the 2003 server, but when I go into Printers to add 
drivers after extracting these "universal" drivers that said 64 bit, the server 
is telling me that these aren't the right files for the selected architecture, 
and then it dies.

Wierd, as both HP and Lanier sites said these were the drivers for the specific 
printer model - eg a "Universal" driver for 64 bit.

Don


From: John Cook 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 12:04:28 PM
Subject: RE: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
IIRC that is correct, it’s been a while since I did it.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
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From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 12:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit

Thanks Cameron.  Actually we're not having problems with the file server 
rename/file copy piece, it's getting the printers from the old server to come 
over to the new server.  What I'm seeing seems to indicate that we have to 
install 64 bit drivers on the old server for each particular printer that 
exists and then do the migration that way to make the printers come over to 
where the 64 bit server will re-create or import them.

Don


From: Cameron 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 10:25:50 AM
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
Why not just use a new name for the server? If you are using a login script, 
tis easy enough to change user by user...and takes the pressure off of you.

Just a thought...
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Don Kuhlman 
mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Hi folks. Happy Friday.

At the new gig now and have been assigned another project which I haven't 
worked on before.  We're migrating a 2003 32 bit Windows file/print server to 
2008R2.  I've never had to move printers/print servers before because we never 
used Windows Print servers at old j0b.

My question is this - to migrate printers/print drivers from 32 bit 2003 server 
to 64 bit 2008R2, do you have to first put 64 bit drivers on the old server 
that has the 32 bit drivers, and do they have to have the exact same names as 
the existing 32 bit drivers in order to migrate successfully to 64 bit?

Thanks!

Here is the background (long) synopsis...

I've been researching this since yesterday, and haven't come up with a solid 
answer that is clear.  I've got a server migration scheduled for this weekend 
and the printers are a major part of it, so I'm hoping the list can point me in 
the right direction.

I've built the new 2008 server, gave it a temporary name, etc.
Plan is to ship it to the site, migrate the data, shares, permissions, and 
printers, then rename the old one, rename the new one to the old one's name, 
and be done.

While tyring to do the printer piece, I used printmig to backup and restore the 
printers from the 32 bit box to the new 64 bit box.  However, the new 2008 R2 
server isn't importing or restoring any of the printers - I guess because they 
are all 32 bit drivers but not s

RE: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[David Lum]

+1.

We went to PGP about a year before they announced Symantec was buying them, and 
central management was a requirement.

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

We are a legacy customer of Symatec.  It wasn't the case that I chose PGP 
because of Symantec.

At the time I was evaluationg options, TrueCrypt didn't have any sort of 
management functionality...
Has that changed?  I like having a management passphrase that can be changed 
centrally...
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Ben Schorr 
mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com>> wrote:
We use TrueCrypt for our whole disk encryption. I prefer not to deal with 
Symantec if I don't have to.

Ben M. Schorr
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com | 
www.officeforlawyers.com | Twitter: @bschorr

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:27

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

So do I, drat.
I pushed out a couple of machines without adequate testing,  Actually was urged 
to do it, because I'm going on vacation next week midweek, through the 
following week, then it's 4th of July weekend.
I hadn't walked through the encryption with either person, yet...  Thank 
goodness.



On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:14 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
We nuke and pave, baby. We leave any diagnostic partitions, but the OS 
partition gets blasted and made fresh like a nice Summer's Eve...


From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:06 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

Ok.  So I just verified that it is the same for E5420's stock...
Do you typically uninstall the Dell apps, or did you in this case?


On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:36 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
Dell Latitude E6420
PGP client version 10.0.2.99

Symptom. Client installs fine, hard drive gets encrypted, but then when you 
reboot: BOOM. Nothing.
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH158600

Dave

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:01 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

Out of curiosity, what model Dell notebooks and what version of PGP are you 
running?




On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for something 
that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole Disk Encryption 
(or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I have downloaded their 
latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add it to the PGP Universal 
Server.

Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can't get the answer unless 
I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.

I called them at 11am local, said I'd get a call right back, they left me a VM 
at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM...

Dave

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support

Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites a$$. 
Thank you, Symantec.
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Mobile 503.267.9764

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Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit

[Don Kuhlman]

Thanks Glen. That's exactly what I'm seeing now - I've tried to download every 
flavor of 64 bit drivers from the mfg web site, then install them on the 32 bit 
server and it keeps failing - comes back with something to the effect that "the 
specified location does not contain the driver  x x for the 
specified processor architecture"

I wonder if I should try to install the 64 bit drivers on the 64 bit server and 
then make sure the names match (if I can do that) and then try the migration 
again?

Don





From: Glen Johnson 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 3:00:38 PM
Subject: RE: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit


My experience has been that the x32 and x64 bit drivers have to be the same 
name 
and version, but my experience was on a 64bit server.
We were never able to get the x64 drivers to work on an x32 server.
 
From:Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 2:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
 
Thanks John. I went hunting for 64 bit versions of HP, and Lanier drivers to 
download and install on the 2003 server, but when I go into Printers to add 
drivers after extracting these "universal" drivers that said 64 bit, the server 
is telling me that these aren't the right files for the selected architecture, 
and then it dies.
 
Wierd, as both HP and Lanier sites said these were the drivers for the specific 
printer model - eg a "Universal" driver for 64 bit.
 
Don
 



From:John Cook 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 12:04:28 PM
Subject: RE: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
IIRC that is correct, it’s been a while since I did it.
 
 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
 
From:Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 12:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
 
Thanks Cameron.  Actually we're not having problems with the file server 
rename/file copy piece, it's getting the printers from the old server to come 
over to the new server.  What I'm seeing seems to indicate that we have to 
install 64 bit drivers on the old server for each particular printer that 
exists 
and then do the migration that way to make the printers come over to where the 
64 bit server will re-create or import them.
 
Don
 



From:Cameron 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 10:25:50 AM
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
Why not just use a new name for the server? If you are using a login script, 
tis 
easy enough to change user by user...and takes the pressure off of you.
 
Just a thought...
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Don Kuhlman  wrote:
Hi folks. Happy Friday.
 
At the new gig now and have been assigned another project which I haven't 
worked 
on before.  We're migrating a 2003 32 bit Windows file/print server to 2008R2.  
I've never had to move printers/print servers before because we never used 
Windows Print servers at old j0b.
 
My question is this - to migrate printers/print drivers from 32 bit 2003 server 
to 64 bit 2008R2, do you have to first put 64 bit drivers on the old server 
that 
has the 32 bit drivers, and do they have to have the exact same names as the 
existing 32 bit drivers in order to migrate successfully to 64 bit?
 
Thanks!
 
Here is the background (long) synopsis...
 
I've been researching this since yesterday, and haven't come up with a solid 
answer that is clear.  I've got a server migration scheduled for this weekend 
and the printers are a major part of it, so I'm hoping the list can point me in 
the right direction.
 
I've built the new 2008 server, gave it a temporary name, etc.
Plan is to ship it to the site, migrate the data, shares, permissions, and 
printers, then rename the old one, rename the new one to the old one's name, 
and 
be done.
 
While tyring to do the printer piece, I used printmig to backup and restore the 
printers from the 32 bit box to the new 64 bit box.  However, the new 2008 R2 
server isn't importing or restoring any of the printers - I guess because they 
are all 32 bit drivers but not sure. 

 
So in my research I see that you can use Printbrm.exe on 2008 to try it, or the 
Print Migration features of the 2008 Print Management role.  The printer 
migration tool is also failing - errors like 0x80070705 and 0x80070c6 are 
showing on that tool.
 
I checked around and ended up on the MS Print blogs here - 
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd379557(WS.10).aspx and another 
site 
here - 
http://blogs.technet.com/b/print/archive/200

Re: OT: BB Playbook

[Kevin Lundy]

Unfortunately I'm not a BES admin, but I do know there is something you have
to do on the BES to enable it.  Until you can browse from the BB, you won't
be able to browse from the PB.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Cameron  wrote:

> Yes, I can hit internal sites from the BES...No, I can't hit internal sites
> from my BB (Torch...not a PB).
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:
>
>> You have to have it bridged and use the bridge browser.  And of course
>> your BES has to have that configured as well.  Can you hit internal sites
>> from the BB?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Cameron wrote:
>>
>>> Ok...you just got my full attention
>>> "Access to internal sites"Pardon my ignorance/innocenceyou can
>>> hit internal sites with your BB? What did you have to configure for that? I
>>> always thought that option should be there since we have an internal
>>> BES...but didn't look into it.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Cameron
>>>
>>>  On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:
>>>
  We have one device that we are using to evaluate for those exact
 reasons.  I've only had it a couple of days.

 I originally liked the marketing blurb about how the bridging protects
 documents.  When the bridge is broken, nothing remains on the Playbook
 (think if someone walked away from the PB at Starbucks). However, I'm
 disappointed in how that actually works.  It works by downloading documents
 to the SD card on the BB.  We have our BES to configure encryption on all
 BB.  We haven't found that the PB can access BB encrypted files.  That may
 be our lack of time with it, but seems to be a weakness.

 We are heavy Sharepoint users.  Access to internal sites is OK via the
 bridge browser.  But I downloaded an app from the appstore that is supposed
 to optimize performance of Sharepoint sites to the PB.  Works very well for
 public Sharepoint sites.  However, it doesn't work over the bridge - the
 vendor says it is a current RIM bridge limitation.

 I like the multitasking, and the HDMI out.  I actually like the smaller
 size compared to iPad.

 I haven't tried VPN yet.

   On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Cameron wrote:

> Good afternoon all!
>
> One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for
> the sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we are
> using BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between 
> the
> BB and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to
> connect to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client?
> Pros/Cons?
>
> Thanks as always!
>
> Cameron
>
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RE: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit

[Glen Johnson]

My experience has been that the x32 and x64 bit drivers have to be the same 
name and version, but my experience was on a 64bit server.
We were never able to get the x64 drivers to work on an x32 server.

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 2:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit

Thanks John. I went hunting for 64 bit versions of HP, and Lanier drivers to 
download and install on the 2003 server, but when I go into Printers to add 
drivers after extracting these "universal" drivers that said 64 bit, the server 
is telling me that these aren't the right files for the selected architecture, 
and then it dies.

Wierd, as both HP and Lanier sites said these were the drivers for the specific 
printer model - eg a "Universal" driver for 64 bit.

Don


From: John Cook 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 12:04:28 PM
Subject: RE: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
IIRC that is correct, it’s been a while since I did it.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 12:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit

Thanks Cameron.  Actually we're not having problems with the file server 
rename/file copy piece, it's getting the printers from the old server to come 
over to the new server.  What I'm seeing seems to indicate that we have to 
install 64 bit drivers on the old server for each particular printer that 
exists and then do the migration that way to make the printers come over to 
where the 64 bit server will re-create or import them.

Don


From: Cameron 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 10:25:50 AM
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
Why not just use a new name for the server? If you are using a login script, 
tis easy enough to change user by user...and takes the pressure off of you.

Just a thought...
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Don Kuhlman 
mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Hi folks. Happy Friday.

At the new gig now and have been assigned another project which I haven't 
worked on before.  We're migrating a 2003 32 bit Windows file/print server to 
2008R2.  I've never had to move printers/print servers before because we never 
used Windows Print servers at old j0b.

My question is this - to migrate printers/print drivers from 32 bit 2003 server 
to 64 bit 2008R2, do you have to first put 64 bit drivers on the old server 
that has the 32 bit drivers, and do they have to have the exact same names as 
the existing 32 bit drivers in order to migrate successfully to 64 bit?

Thanks!

Here is the background (long) synopsis...

I've been researching this since yesterday, and haven't come up with a solid 
answer that is clear.  I've got a server migration scheduled for this weekend 
and the printers are a major part of it, so I'm hoping the list can point me in 
the right direction.

I've built the new 2008 server, gave it a temporary name, etc.
Plan is to ship it to the site, migrate the data, shares, permissions, and 
printers, then rename the old one, rename the new one to the old one's name, 
and be done.

While tyring to do the printer piece, I used printmig to backup and restore the 
printers from the 32 bit box to the new 64 bit box.  However, the new 2008 R2 
server isn't importing or restoring any of the printers - I guess because they 
are all 32 bit drivers but not sure.

So in my research I see that you can use Printbrm.exe on 2008 to try it, or the 
Print Migration features of the 2008 Print Management role.  The printer 
migration tool is also failing - errors like 0x80070705 and 0x80070c6 are 
showing on that tool.

I checked around and ended up on the MS Print blogs here - 
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd379557(WS.10).aspx and another 
site here - 
http://blogs.technet.com/b/print/archive/2009/08/17/print-services-migration-guide.aspx



This was listed as a tip in the blog -

As a best practice, you need to install a driver with the same name as the 
native architecture. To add the x86-based driver to the x64-based destination 
server, use the x86-based client to remotely open the x64-based server using 
Windows Explorer and navigate to the remote printer folder and add the driver. 
To install an x64-based driver on the x86-based source server, use the 
x64-based client to remotely open the x86-based server using Windows Explorer 
and navigate to the remote printer folder and add the driver.



Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Don K

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Re: OT: BB Playbook

[Cameron]

Yes, I can hit internal sites from the BES...No, I can't hit internal sites
from my BB (Torch...not a PB).



On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:

> You have to have it bridged and use the bridge browser.  And of course your
> BES has to have that configured as well.  Can you hit internal sites from
> the BB?
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Cameron  wrote:
>
>> Ok...you just got my full attention
>> "Access to internal sites"Pardon my ignorance/innocenceyou can hit
>> internal sites with your BB? What did you have to configure for that? I
>> always thought that option should be there since we have an internal
>> BES...but didn't look into it.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Cameron
>>
>>  On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:
>>
>>>  We have one device that we are using to evaluate for those exact
>>> reasons.  I've only had it a couple of days.
>>>
>>> I originally liked the marketing blurb about how the bridging protects
>>> documents.  When the bridge is broken, nothing remains on the Playbook
>>> (think if someone walked away from the PB at Starbucks). However, I'm
>>> disappointed in how that actually works.  It works by downloading documents
>>> to the SD card on the BB.  We have our BES to configure encryption on all
>>> BB.  We haven't found that the PB can access BB encrypted files.  That may
>>> be our lack of time with it, but seems to be a weakness.
>>>
>>> We are heavy Sharepoint users.  Access to internal sites is OK via the
>>> bridge browser.  But I downloaded an app from the appstore that is supposed
>>> to optimize performance of Sharepoint sites to the PB.  Works very well for
>>> public Sharepoint sites.  However, it doesn't work over the bridge - the
>>> vendor says it is a current RIM bridge limitation.
>>>
>>> I like the multitasking, and the HDMI out.  I actually like the smaller
>>> size compared to iPad.
>>>
>>> I haven't tried VPN yet.
>>>
>>>   On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Cameron wrote:
>>>
 Good afternoon all!

 One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for
 the sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we are
 using BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between 
 the
 BB and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to
 connect to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client?
 Pros/Cons?

 Thanks as always!

 Cameron

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Re: OT: BB Playbook

[Kevin Lundy]

You have to have it bridged and use the bridge browser.  And of course your
BES has to have that configured as well.  Can you hit internal sites from
the BB?

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Cameron  wrote:

> Ok...you just got my full attention
> "Access to internal sites"Pardon my ignorance/innocenceyou can hit
> internal sites with your BB? What did you have to configure for that? I
> always thought that option should be there since we have an internal
> BES...but didn't look into it.
>
> Cheers!
> Cameron
>
>  On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:
>
>>  We have one device that we are using to evaluate for those exact
>> reasons.  I've only had it a couple of days.
>>
>> I originally liked the marketing blurb about how the bridging protects
>> documents.  When the bridge is broken, nothing remains on the Playbook
>> (think if someone walked away from the PB at Starbucks). However, I'm
>> disappointed in how that actually works.  It works by downloading documents
>> to the SD card on the BB.  We have our BES to configure encryption on all
>> BB.  We haven't found that the PB can access BB encrypted files.  That may
>> be our lack of time with it, but seems to be a weakness.
>>
>> We are heavy Sharepoint users.  Access to internal sites is OK via the
>> bridge browser.  But I downloaded an app from the appstore that is supposed
>> to optimize performance of Sharepoint sites to the PB.  Works very well for
>> public Sharepoint sites.  However, it doesn't work over the bridge - the
>> vendor says it is a current RIM bridge limitation.
>>
>> I like the multitasking, and the HDMI out.  I actually like the smaller
>> size compared to iPad.
>>
>> I haven't tried VPN yet.
>>
>>   On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Cameron wrote:
>>
>>> Good afternoon all!
>>>
>>> One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for the
>>> sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we are using
>>> BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between the BB
>>> and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to connect
>>> to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client? Pros/Cons?
>>>
>>> Thanks as always!
>>>
>>> Cameron
>>>
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Re: OT: BB Playbook

[Cameron]

Ok...you just got my full attention
"Access to internal sites"Pardon my ignorance/innocenceyou can hit
internal sites with your BB? What did you have to configure for that? I
always thought that option should be there since we have an internal
BES...but didn't look into it.

Cheers!
Cameron

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:

> We have one device that we are using to evaluate for those exact reasons.
> I've only had it a couple of days.
>
> I originally liked the marketing blurb about how the bridging protects
> documents.  When the bridge is broken, nothing remains on the Playbook
> (think if someone walked away from the PB at Starbucks). However, I'm
> disappointed in how that actually works.  It works by downloading documents
> to the SD card on the BB.  We have our BES to configure encryption on all
> BB.  We haven't found that the PB can access BB encrypted files.  That may
> be our lack of time with it, but seems to be a weakness.
>
> We are heavy Sharepoint users.  Access to internal sites is OK via the
> bridge browser.  But I downloaded an app from the appstore that is supposed
> to optimize performance of Sharepoint sites to the PB.  Works very well for
> public Sharepoint sites.  However, it doesn't work over the bridge - the
> vendor says it is a current RIM bridge limitation.
>
> I like the multitasking, and the HDMI out.  I actually like the smaller
> size compared to iPad.
>
> I haven't tried VPN yet.
>
>   On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Cameron wrote:
>
>> Good afternoon all!
>>
>> One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for the
>> sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we are using
>> BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between the BB
>> and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to connect
>> to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client? Pros/Cons?
>>
>> Thanks as always!
>>
>> Cameron
>>
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RE: OT: BB Playbook

[Ben Schorr]

Only a few of my clients are BB users and the ones who aren't have no
interest in the PlayBook (since it currently requires the BB to do
on-device e-mail).

 

Ben M. Schorr

Roland Schorr & Tower

www.rolandschorr.com | www.officeforlawyers.com | Twitter: @bschorr

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:36
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: BB Playbook

 

Sounds kludgy!

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Cameron 
wrote:

>From what I've been reading, you activate the bridge between the two
devices (bluetooth connection) and it becomes a virtual extension of
your BBand all the data is actually still held on the phone and not
the playbook.

 

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jonathan Link 
wrote:

Didn't someone on here say BB doesn't understand that an email address
needs to be accessible on multiple devices?



 

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Cameron 
wrote:

Good afternoon all!

 

One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for
the sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we
are using BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging
between the BB and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN
client to connect to their home network and then run some sort of VNC
client? Pros/Cons?

 

Thanks as always!

 

Cameron

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RE: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[Ben Schorr]

Good point - I don't think it has that capability. We've never really
needed it, but I can see the advantages.

 

Ben M. Schorr

Roland Schorr & Tower

www.rolandschorr.com | www.officeforlawyers.com | Twitter: @bschorr

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:33
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

 

We are a legacy customer of Symatec.  It wasn't the case that I chose
PGP because of Symantec.

 

At the time I was evaluationg options, TrueCrypt didn't have any sort of
management functionality...

Has that changed?  I like having a management passphrase that can be
changed centrally...

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Ben Schorr 
wrote:

We use TrueCrypt for our whole disk encryption. I prefer not to deal
with Symantec if I don't have to.

 

Ben M. Schorr

Roland Schorr & Tower

www.rolandschorr.com | www.officeforlawyers.com | Twitter: @bschorr

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:27


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

 

So do I, drat.

I pushed out a couple of machines without adequate testing,  Actually
was urged to do it, because I'm going on vacation next week midweek,
through the following week, then it's 4th of July weekend.

I hadn't walked through the encryption with either person, yet...  Thank
goodness.



 

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:14 PM, David Lum  wrote:

We nuke and pave, baby. We leave any diagnostic partitions, but the OS
partition gets blasted and made fresh like a nice Summer's Eve...

 

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:06 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

 

Ok.  So I just verified that it is the same for E5420's stock...

Do you typically uninstall the Dell apps, or did you in this case?

 

 

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:36 PM, David Lum  wrote:

Dell Latitude E6420

PGP client version 10.0.2.99

 

Symptom. Client installs fine, hard drive gets encrypted, but then when
you reboot: BOOM. Nothing.
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH15860
0

 

Dave

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:01 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

 

Out of curiosity, what model Dell notebooks and what version of PGP are
you running?

 



 

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum  wrote:

Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for
something that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole
Disk Encryption (or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I
have downloaded their latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add
it to the PGP Universal Server.

 

Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can't get the answer
unless I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.

 

I called them at 11am local, said I'd get a call right back, they left
me a VM at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM...

 

Dave

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support

 

Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites
a$$. Thank you, Symantec.

David Lum 
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Mobile 503.267.9764

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Re: BB Playbook

[steveyens]

Flash is good too.
Sent from my BlackBird.

-Original Message-
From: Stefan Jafs 
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:06:01 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: BB Playbook

It was designed to work with you BB / Bridge and that works great maybe a
bit slow and ultimately secure, since as someone else mentioned no Exchange
data is stored on the Playbook.

Also The browsing experience leaves the iPad in the dust, and you can use
OWA for native mail and calendar!

The hardware is fantastic, I love the form factor for me the iPad is too
big.

I can also get to it from my desktop with Wi-Fi, Start |
\\IP_adressI can then copy files to and from the
PlayBook, yes USB sync works great
also but I like the “coolness” of the Wi-Fi File Sharing.

I had a sales person evaluated the 2 and the PlayBook wins hands down.



Now if you love Apps and want to play silly games then the iPad is much more
suited for that and it’s a good baby sitter for a 5 year old!


For business PlayBook all the way.

SJ

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Webster  wrote:

> Yes, I know, I am a Citrix bigot.  Here is Brian Maddens take on the
> Playbook, all in 4 short tweets:
>
> ** **
>
> My Blackberry PlayBook arrived today. How's this for a VDI client (esp.
> compared to an iPad)? Stay tuned...
>
> ** **
>
> First experience with Blackberry Playbook: It needs a software update,
> 326mb, mandatory before continuing. 
> #SureAin
> 'tAniPad
>
> ** **
>
> Whoa. The Blackberry Playbook tablet doesn't have a native built-in mail,
> calendar, or contact apps? Yikes! Back to my iPad.
>
> ** **
>
> Shortest review ever: Blackberry Playbook is pretty, but worthless. (And
> the same price as the iPad?!?) 
> #failI've moved on.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://dabcc.com/Webster
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 1:25 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: BB Playbook
>
> ** **
>
> Good afternoon all!
>
>  
>
> One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for the
> sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we are using
> BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between the BB
> and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to connect
> to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client? Pros/Cons?
>
>  
>
> Thanks as always!
>
>  
>
> Cameron
>
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Re: BB Playbook

[Stefan Jafs]

It was designed to work with you BB / Bridge and that works great maybe a
bit slow and ultimately secure, since as someone else mentioned no Exchange
data is stored on the Playbook.

Also The browsing experience leaves the iPad in the dust, and you can use
OWA for native mail and calendar!

The hardware is fantastic, I love the form factor for me the iPad is too
big.

I can also get to it from my desktop with Wi-Fi, Start |
\\IP_adressI can then copy files to and from the
PlayBook, yes USB sync works great
also but I like the “coolness” of the Wi-Fi File Sharing.

I had a sales person evaluated the 2 and the PlayBook wins hands down.



Now if you love Apps and want to play silly games then the iPad is much more
suited for that and it’s a good baby sitter for a 5 year old!


For business PlayBook all the way.

SJ

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Webster  wrote:

> Yes, I know, I am a Citrix bigot.  Here is Brian Maddens take on the
> Playbook, all in 4 short tweets:
>
> ** **
>
> My Blackberry PlayBook arrived today. How's this for a VDI client (esp.
> compared to an iPad)? Stay tuned...
>
> ** **
>
> First experience with Blackberry Playbook: It needs a software update,
> 326mb, mandatory before continuing. 
> #SureAin
> 'tAniPad
>
> ** **
>
> Whoa. The Blackberry Playbook tablet doesn't have a native built-in mail,
> calendar, or contact apps? Yikes! Back to my iPad.
>
> ** **
>
> Shortest review ever: Blackberry Playbook is pretty, but worthless. (And
> the same price as the iPad?!?) 
> #failI've moved on.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://dabcc.com/Webster
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 1:25 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: BB Playbook
>
> ** **
>
> Good afternoon all!
>
>  
>
> One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for the
> sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we are using
> BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between the BB
> and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to connect
> to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client? Pros/Cons?
>
>  
>
> Thanks as always!
>
>  
>
> Cameron
>
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Re: BB Playbook

[Jonathan Link]

After activation, I think I've attached it to iTunes exactly twice.  To
update Navigon, which is like 1.7 Gb in size...

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Mayo, Bill  wrote:

> iOS 5, due later this summer, will remove that requirement.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 2:48 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: BB Playbook
>
> ** **
>
> Ipad - need itunes - fail.
>
> I do like my activesync better though than BES.  
>
> I've played with the XOOM and the Asus Transformer.  I love the Android
> tablets.  HDMI out, SD mini slots, etc...
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Webster  wrote:***
> *
>
> Yes, I know, I am a Citrix bigot.  Here is Brian Maddens take on the
> Playbook, all in 4 short tweets:
>
>  
>
> My Blackberry PlayBook arrived today. How's this for a VDI client (esp.
> compared to an iPad)? Stay tuned...
>
>  
>
> First experience with Blackberry Playbook: It needs a software update,
> 326mb, mandatory before continuing. 
> #SureAin
> 'tAniPad
>
>  
>
> Whoa. The Blackberry Playbook tablet doesn't have a native built-in mail,
> calendar, or contact apps? Yikes! Back to my iPad.
>
>  
>
> Shortest review ever: Blackberry Playbook is pretty, but worthless. (And
> the same price as the iPad?!?) 
> #failI've moved on.
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://dabcc.com/Webster
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 1:25 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: BB Playbook
>
>  
>
> Good afternoon all!
>
>  
>
> One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for the
> sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we are using
> BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between the BB
> and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to connect
> to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client? Pros/Cons?
>
>  
>
> Thanks as always!
>
>  
>
> Cameron
>
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Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[Jonathan Link]

Are you missing a "just sayin'"?



On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

>  Symantec has become the Computer Associates of the 21st century.
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> > Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for
> > something that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole
> Disk
> > Encryption (or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I have
> > downloaded their latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add it to
> > the PGP Universal Server.
> >
> >
> >
> > Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can’t get the answer
> > unless I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.
> >
> >
> >
> > I called them at 11am local, said I’d get a call right back, they left me
> a
> > VM at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM…
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support
> >
> >
> >
> > Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites
> a$$.
> > Thank you, Symantec.
> >
> > David Lum
> > Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> > Office 503.548.5229 // Mobile 503.267.9764
> >
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RE: BB Playbook

[Mayo, Bill]

iOS 5, due later this summer, will remove that requirement.

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 2:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: BB Playbook

 

Ipad - need itunes - fail.

I do like my activesync better though than BES.  

I've played with the XOOM and the Asus Transformer.  I love the Android
tablets.  HDMI out, SD mini slots, etc...

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Webster  wrote:

Yes, I know, I am a Citrix bigot.  Here is Brian Maddens take on the
Playbook, all in 4 short tweets:

 

My Blackberry PlayBook arrived today. How's this for a VDI client (esp.
compared to an iPad)? Stay tuned...

 

First experience with Blackberry Playbook: It needs a software update,
326mb, mandatory before continuing. #SureAin
 'tAniPad

 

Whoa. The Blackberry Playbook tablet doesn't have a native built-in
mail, calendar, or contact apps? Yikes! Back to my iPad.

 

Shortest review ever: Blackberry Playbook is pretty, but worthless. (And
the same price as the iPad?!?) #fail
  I've moved on.

 

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://dabcc.com/Webster

 

 

 

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: BB Playbook

 

Good afternoon all!

 

One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for
the sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we
are using BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging
between the BB and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN
client to connect to their home network and then run some sort of VNC
client? Pros/Cons?

 

Thanks as always!

 

Cameron

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RE: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[Steven M. Caesare]

Ouch.

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 12:51 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update
> 
>   Symantec has become the Computer Associates of the 21st century.
> 
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> > Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for
> > something that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole
> > Disk Encryption (or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I
> > have downloaded their latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to
> > add it to the PGP Universal Server.
> >
> >
> >
> > Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can't get the
> > answer unless I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.
> >
> >
> >
> > I called them at 11am local, said I'd get a call right back, they left
> > me a VM at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM...
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support
> >
> >
> >
> > Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites a$$.
> > Thank you, Symantec.
> >
> > David Lum
> > Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> > Office 503.548.5229 // Mobile 503.267.9764
> >
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Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit

[Don Kuhlman]

Thanks John. I went hunting for 64 bit versions of HP, and Lanier drivers to 
download and install on the 2003 server, but when I go into Printers to add 
drivers after extracting these "universal" drivers that said 64 bit, the server 
is telling me that these aren't the right files for the selected architecture, 
and then it dies.

Wierd, as both HP and Lanier sites said these were the drivers for the specific 
printer model - eg a "Universal" driver for 64 bit.

Don





From: John Cook 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 12:04:28 PM
Subject: RE: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit


IIRC that is correct, it’s been a while since I did it.
 
 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
 
From:Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 12:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
 
Thanks Cameron.  Actually we're not having problems with the file server 
rename/file copy piece, it's getting the printers from the old server to come 
over to the new server.  What I'm seeing seems to indicate that we have to 
install 64 bit drivers on the old server for each particular printer that 
exists 
and then do the migration that way to make the printers come over to where the 
64 bit server will re-create or import them.
 
Don
 



From:Cameron 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 10:25:50 AM
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
Why not just use a new name for the server? If you are using a login script, 
tis 
easy enough to change user by user...and takes the pressure off of you.
 
Just a thought...
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Don Kuhlman  wrote:
Hi folks. Happy Friday.
 
At the new gig now and have been assigned another project which I haven't 
worked 
on before.  We're migrating a 2003 32 bit Windows file/print server to 2008R2.  
I've never had to move printers/print servers before because we never used 
Windows Print servers at old j0b.
 
My question is this - to migrate printers/print drivers from 32 bit 2003 server 
to 64 bit 2008R2, do you have to first put 64 bit drivers on the old server 
that 
has the 32 bit drivers, and do they have to have the exact same names as the 
existing 32 bit drivers in order to migrate successfully to 64 bit?
 
Thanks!
 
Here is the background (long) synopsis...
 
I've been researching this since yesterday, and haven't come up with a solid 
answer that is clear.  I've got a server migration scheduled for this weekend 
and the printers are a major part of it, so I'm hoping the list can point me in 
the right direction.
 
I've built the new 2008 server, gave it a temporary name, etc.
Plan is to ship it to the site, migrate the data, shares, permissions, and 
printers, then rename the old one, rename the new one to the old one's name, 
and 
be done.
 
While tyring to do the printer piece, I used printmig to backup and restore the 
printers from the 32 bit box to the new 64 bit box.  However, the new 2008 R2 
server isn't importing or restoring any of the printers - I guess because they 
are all 32 bit drivers but not sure. 

 
So in my research I see that you can use Printbrm.exe on 2008 to try it, or the 
Print Migration features of the 2008 Print Management role.  The printer 
migration tool is also failing - errors like 0x80070705 and 0x80070c6 are 
showing on that tool.
 
I checked around and ended up on the MS Print blogs here - 
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd379557(WS.10).aspx and another 
site 
here - 
http://blogs.technet.com/b/print/archive/2009/08/17/print-services-migration-guide.aspx

 
This was listed as a tip in the blog - 
As a best practice, you need to install a driver with the same name as the 
native architecture. To add the x86-based driver to the x64-based destination 
server, use the x86-based client to remotely open the x64-based server using 
Windows Explorer and navigate to the remote printer folder and add the driver. 
To install an x64-based driver on the x86-based source server, use the 
x64-based 
client to remotely open the x86-based server using Windows Explorer and 
navigate 
to the remote printer folder and add the driver.
 
Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Don K
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Re: BB Playbook

[Steve Ens]

Ipad - need itunes - fail.
I do like my activesync better though than BES.
I've played with the XOOM and the Asus Transformer.  I love the Android
tablets.  HDMI out, SD mini slots, etc...

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Webster  wrote:

> Yes, I know, I am a Citrix bigot.  Here is Brian Maddens take on the
> Playbook, all in 4 short tweets:
>
> ** **
>
> My Blackberry PlayBook arrived today. How's this for a VDI client (esp.
> compared to an iPad)? Stay tuned...
>
> ** **
>
> First experience with Blackberry Playbook: It needs a software update,
> 326mb, mandatory before continuing. 
> #SureAin
> 'tAniPad
>
> ** **
>
> Whoa. The Blackberry Playbook tablet doesn't have a native built-in mail,
> calendar, or contact apps? Yikes! Back to my iPad.
>
> ** **
>
> Shortest review ever: Blackberry Playbook is pretty, but worthless. (And
> the same price as the iPad?!?) 
> #failI've moved on.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://dabcc.com/Webster
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 1:25 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: BB Playbook
>
> ** **
>
> Good afternoon all!
>
>  
>
> One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for the
> sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we are using
> BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between the BB
> and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to connect
> to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client? Pros/Cons?
>
>  
>
> Thanks as always!
>
>  
>
> Cameron
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RE: Dear Dell

[Ken Schaefer]

As a company? HP is much bigger than Dell  :) (but, has a lot more divisions 
than Dell). HP has ~300,000 employees - Dell about ~100,000. HP's revenue last 
year was $126bn (profit $11.5bn). Dell's revenue was $67bn, and profit of 
$3.4bn (according to Wikipedia)

For server shipments, HP is about 2x as big as Dell:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/25/idc_q1_2011_server_numbers/
Plus HP has far more high-end products than Dell (SAN, networking - even 
servers - Itanium, HP-UX etc)

In the mid-market, Dell and HP are comparable.

Cheers
Ken

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 18 June 2011 12:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dear Dell

The size of companies?  Well, Dell is big as is HP.

We are an HP shop and currently buy through Quest.  That said, we talk to our 
HP TAM and Quest Sales person to coordinate our lease refreshes.  Any moderate 
sized purchase should be planned out like this.  We are part way through 
refreshing 24 enclosures for this year and having coordinated like this, little 
supply issues can be dealt with and the venders can plan to have things 
available.  Quest also knows if we get really irritated we'll switch to CDW or 
something.

I am sure both Dell and HP would be more then happy to bring in the power point 
presentations to show how their integrated solutions of hardware and monitoring 
are awesomeness :)
Steven Peck
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RE: BB Playbook

[Webster]

Yes, I know, I am a Citrix bigot.  Here is Brian Maddens take on the
Playbook, all in 4 short tweets:

 

My Blackberry PlayBook arrived today. How's this for a VDI client (esp.
compared to an iPad)? Stay tuned...

 

First experience with Blackberry Playbook: It needs a software update,
326mb, mandatory before continuing.
 #SureAin'tAniPad

 

Whoa. The Blackberry Playbook tablet doesn't have a native built-in mail,
calendar, or contact apps? Yikes! Back to my iPad.

 

Shortest review ever: Blackberry Playbook is pretty, but worthless. (And the
same price as the iPad?!?)   #fail
I've moved on.

 

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

  http://dabcc.com/Webster

 

 

 

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: BB Playbook

 

Good afternoon all!

 

One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for the
sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we are using
BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between the BB
and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to connect
to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client? Pros/Cons?

 

Thanks as always!

 

Cameron

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Re: OT: BB Playbook

[Steve Ens]

I've got a Playbook.  The bridge works great.  Haven't tried a VPN or
anything yet... not many apps though, waiting for Android market to be
ported over, then it'll be my go to tablet.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Cameron  wrote:

> Good afternoon all!
>
> One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for the
> sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we are using
> BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between the BB
> and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to connect
> to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client? Pros/Cons?
>
> Thanks as always!
>
> Cameron
>
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RE: OT: BB Playbook

[Rod Trent]

Now may not be the time to invest in RIM technology.  Just sayin'

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 2:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: BB Playbook

 

Didn't someone on here say BB doesn't understand that an email address needs
to be accessible on multiple devices?



 

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Cameron  wrote:

Good afternoon all!

 

One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for the
sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we are using
BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between the BB
and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to connect
to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client? Pros/Cons?

 

Thanks as always!

 

Cameron

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Re: OT: BB Playbook

[Jonathan Link]

Sounds kludgy!

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Cameron  wrote:

> From what I've been reading, you activate the bridge between the two
> devices (bluetooth connection) and it becomes a virtual extension of your
> BBand all the data is actually still held on the phone and not the
> playbook.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:
>
>> Didn't someone on here say BB doesn't understand that an email address
>> needs to be accessible on multiple devices?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Cameron wrote:
>>
>>> Good afternoon all!
>>>
>>> One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for the
>>> sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we are using
>>> BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between the BB
>>> and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to connect
>>> to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client? Pros/Cons?
>>>
>>> Thanks as always!
>>>
>>> Cameron
>>>
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Re: OT: BB Playbook

[Kevin Lundy]

We have one device that we are using to evaluate for those exact reasons.
I've only had it a couple of days.

I originally liked the marketing blurb about how the bridging protects
documents.  When the bridge is broken, nothing remains on the Playbook
(think if someone walked away from the PB at Starbucks). However, I'm
disappointed in how that actually works.  It works by downloading documents
to the SD card on the BB.  We have our BES to configure encryption on all
BB.  We haven't found that the PB can access BB encrypted files.  That may
be our lack of time with it, but seems to be a weakness.

We are heavy Sharepoint users.  Access to internal sites is OK via the
bridge browser.  But I downloaded an app from the appstore that is supposed
to optimize performance of Sharepoint sites to the PB.  Works very well for
public Sharepoint sites.  However, it doesn't work over the bridge - the
vendor says it is a current RIM bridge limitation.

I like the multitasking, and the HDMI out.  I actually like the smaller size
compared to iPad.

I haven't tried VPN yet.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Cameron  wrote:

> Good afternoon all!
>
> One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for the
> sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we are using
> BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between the BB
> and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to connect
> to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client? Pros/Cons?
>
> Thanks as always!
>
> Cameron
>
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Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[Jonathan Link]

We are a legacy customer of Symatec.  It wasn't the case that I chose PGP
because of Symantec.

At the time I was evaluationg options, TrueCrypt didn't have any sort of
management functionality...
Has that changed?  I like having a management passphrase that can be changed
centrally...

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Ben Schorr  wrote:

> We use TrueCrypt for our whole disk encryption. I prefer not to deal with
> Symantec if I don’t have to.
>
> ** **
>
> Ben M. Schorr
>
> Roland Schorr & Tower
>
> www.rolandschorr.com | www.officeforlawyers.com | Twitter: @bschorr
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 11:27
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update
>
> ** **
>
> So do I, drat.
>
> I pushed out a couple of machines without adequate testing,  Actually was
> urged to do it, because I'm going on vacation next week midweek, through the
> following week, then it's 4th of July weekend.
>
> I hadn't walked through the encryption with either person, yet...  Thank
> goodness.
>
>
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:14 PM, David Lum  wrote:
>
> We nuke and pave, baby. We leave any diagnostic partitions, but the OS
> partition gets blasted and made fresh like a nice Summer’s Eve…
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 11:06 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update
>
>  
>
> Ok.  So I just verified that it is the same for E5420's stock...
>
> Do you typically uninstall the Dell apps, or did you in this case?
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:36 PM, David Lum  wrote:
>
> Dell Latitude E6420
>
> PGP client version 10.0.2.99
>
>  
>
> Symptom. Client installs fine, hard drive gets encrypted, but then when you
> reboot: BOOM. Nothing.
> http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH158600*
> ***
>
>  
>
> Dave
>
>  
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 10:01 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update
>
>  
>
> Out of curiosity, what model Dell notebooks and what version of PGP are you
> running?
>
>  
>
>
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum  wrote:***
> *
>
> Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for
> something that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole Disk
> Encryption (or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I have
> downloaded their latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add it to
> the PGP Universal Server.
>
>  
>
> Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can’t get the answer
> unless I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.
>
>  
>
> I called them at 11am local, said I’d get a call right back, they left me a
> VM at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM…
>
>  
>
> Dave
>
>  
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support
>
>  
>
> Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites a$$.
> Thank you, Symantec.
>
> *David Lum*
> Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 //* *Mobile 503.267.9764
>
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Re: OT: BB Playbook

[Cameron]

>From what I've been reading, you activate the bridge between the two devices
(bluetooth connection) and it becomes a virtual extension of your BBand
all the data is actually still held on the phone and not the playbook.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> Didn't someone on here say BB doesn't understand that an email address
> needs to be accessible on multiple devices?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Cameron  wrote:
>
>> Good afternoon all!
>>
>> One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for the
>> sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we are using
>> BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between the BB
>> and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to connect
>> to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client? Pros/Cons?
>>
>> Thanks as always!
>>
>> Cameron
>>
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Re: OT: BB Playbook

[Jonathan Link]

Didn't someone on here say BB doesn't understand that an email address needs
to be accessible on multiple devices?



On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Cameron  wrote:

> Good afternoon all!
>
> One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for the
> sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we are using
> BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between the BB
> and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to connect
> to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client? Pros/Cons?
>
> Thanks as always!
>
> Cameron
>
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RE: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[Ben Schorr]

We use TrueCrypt for our whole disk encryption. I prefer not to deal
with Symantec if I don't have to.

 

Ben M. Schorr

Roland Schorr & Tower

www.rolandschorr.com | www.officeforlawyers.com | Twitter: @bschorr

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:27
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

 

So do I, drat.

I pushed out a couple of machines without adequate testing,  Actually
was urged to do it, because I'm going on vacation next week midweek,
through the following week, then it's 4th of July weekend.

I hadn't walked through the encryption with either person, yet...  Thank
goodness.



 

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:14 PM, David Lum  wrote:

We nuke and pave, baby. We leave any diagnostic partitions, but the OS
partition gets blasted and made fresh like a nice Summer's Eve...

 

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:06 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

 

Ok.  So I just verified that it is the same for E5420's stock...

Do you typically uninstall the Dell apps, or did you in this case?

 

 

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:36 PM, David Lum  wrote:

Dell Latitude E6420

PGP client version 10.0.2.99

 

Symptom. Client installs fine, hard drive gets encrypted, but then when
you reboot: BOOM. Nothing.
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH15860
0

 

Dave

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:01 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

 

Out of curiosity, what model Dell notebooks and what version of PGP are
you running?

 



 

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum  wrote:

Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for
something that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole
Disk Encryption (or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I
have downloaded their latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add
it to the PGP Universal Server.

 

Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can't get the answer
unless I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.

 

I called them at 11am local, said I'd get a call right back, they left
me a VM at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM...

 

Dave

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support

 

Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites
a$$. Thank you, Symantec.

David Lum 
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Mobile 503.267.9764

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Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[Jonathan Link]

So do I, drat.
I pushed out a couple of machines without adequate testing,  Actually was
urged to do it, because I'm going on vacation next week midweek, through the
following week, then it's 4th of July weekend.
I hadn't walked through the encryption with either person, yet...  Thank
goodness.



On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:14 PM, David Lum  wrote:

> We nuke and pave, baby. We leave any diagnostic partitions, but the OS
> partition gets blasted and made fresh like a nice Summer’s Eve…
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 11:06 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update
>
> ** **
>
> Ok.  So I just verified that it is the same for E5420's stock...
>
> Do you typically uninstall the Dell apps, or did you in this case?
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:36 PM, David Lum  wrote:
>
> Dell Latitude E6420
>
> PGP client version 10.0.2.99
>
>  
>
> Symptom. Client installs fine, hard drive gets encrypted, but then when you
> reboot: BOOM. Nothing.
> http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH158600*
> ***
>
>  
>
> Dave
>
>  
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 10:01 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update
>
>  
>
> Out of curiosity, what model Dell notebooks and what version of PGP are you
> running?
>
>  
>
>
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum  wrote:***
> *
>
> Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for
> something that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole Disk
> Encryption (or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I have
> downloaded their latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add it to
> the PGP Universal Server.
>
>  
>
> Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can’t get the answer
> unless I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.
>
>  
>
> I called them at 11am local, said I’d get a call right back, they left me a
> VM at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM…
>
>  
>
> Dave
>
>  
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support
>
>  
>
> Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites a$$.
> Thank you, Symantec.
>
> *David Lum*
> Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 //* *Mobile 503.267.9764
>
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> ~   ~
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OT: BB Playbook

[Cameron]

Good afternoon all!

One of the execs is starting to talk about getting better *tools* for the
sales droids (who all currently have BB's...Bolds/Curves/Torch (we are using
BES 5.x)). Has anyone tested this setup using the bridging between the BB
and Playbook? Has anyone done this and then used the VPN client to connect
to their home network and then run some sort of VNC client? Pros/Cons?

Thanks as always!

Cameron

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RE: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[Crawford, Scott]

+.5

We wipe all partitions.

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 1:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

We nuke and pave, baby. We leave any diagnostic partitions, but the OS 
partition gets blasted and made fresh like a nice Summer's Eve...


From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

Ok.  So I just verified that it is the same for E5420's stock...
Do you typically uninstall the Dell apps, or did you in this case?


On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:36 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
Dell Latitude E6420
PGP client version 10.0.2.99

Symptom. Client installs fine, hard drive gets encrypted, but then when you 
reboot: BOOM. Nothing.
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH158600

Dave

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:01 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

Out of curiosity, what model Dell notebooks and what version of PGP are you 
running?




On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for something 
that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole Disk Encryption 
(or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I have downloaded their 
latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add it to the PGP Universal 
Server.

Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can't get the answer unless 
I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.

I called them at 11am local, said I'd get a call right back, they left me a VM 
at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM...

Dave

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support

Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites a$$. 
Thank you, Symantec.
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Mobile 503.267.9764

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RE: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[David Lum]

We nuke and pave, baby. We leave any diagnostic partitions, but the OS 
partition gets blasted and made fresh like a nice Summer's Eve...


From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

Ok.  So I just verified that it is the same for E5420's stock...
Do you typically uninstall the Dell apps, or did you in this case?


On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:36 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
Dell Latitude E6420
PGP client version 10.0.2.99

Symptom. Client installs fine, hard drive gets encrypted, but then when you 
reboot: BOOM. Nothing.
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH158600

Dave

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:01 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

Out of curiosity, what model Dell notebooks and what version of PGP are you 
running?




On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for something 
that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole Disk Encryption 
(or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I have downloaded their 
latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add it to the PGP Universal 
Server.

Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can't get the answer unless 
I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.

I called them at 11am local, said I'd get a call right back, they left me a VM 
at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM...

Dave

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support

Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites a$$. 
Thank you, Symantec.
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Mobile 503.267.9764

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Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[Jonathan Link]

Ok.  So I just verified that it is the same for E5420's stock...
Do you typically uninstall the Dell apps, or did you in this case?


On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:36 PM, David Lum  wrote:

> Dell Latitude E6420
>
> PGP client version 10.0.2.99
>
> ** **
>
> Symptom. Client installs fine, hard drive gets encrypted, but then when you
> reboot: BOOM. Nothing.
> http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH158600*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> Dave
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2011 10:01 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update
>
> ** **
>
> Out of curiosity, what model Dell notebooks and what version of PGP are you
> running?
>
>  
>
>
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum  wrote:***
> *
>
> Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for
> something that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole Disk
> Encryption (or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I have
> downloaded their latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add it to
> the PGP Universal Server.
>
>  
>
> Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can’t get the answer
> unless I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.
>
>  
>
> I called them at 11am local, said I’d get a call right back, they left me a
> VM at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM…
>
>  
>
> Dave
>
>  
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support
>
>  
>
> Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites a$$.
> Thank you, Symantec.
>
> *David Lum*
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RE: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[David Lum]

Dell Latitude E6420
PGP client version 10.0.2.99

Symptom. Client installs fine, hard drive gets encrypted, but then when you 
reboot: BOOM. Nothing.
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH158600

Dave

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

Out of curiosity, what model Dell notebooks and what version of PGP are you 
running?




On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for something 
that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole Disk Encryption 
(or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I have downloaded their 
latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add it to the PGP Universal 
Server.

Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can't get the answer unless 
I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.

I called them at 11am local, said I'd get a call right back, they left me a VM 
at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM...

Dave

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support

Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites a$$. 
Thank you, Symantec.
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Mobile 503.267.9764

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Re: Dear Dell

[Steven Peck]

:)

I doubt the size of the company matters.  I suspect the size of the purchase
is what determines the quality of attention.  We're a mid-sized company of
around 5,000 but we get nice attention because we have the budget and make
the pruchases to get that attention.  If you call up and tell them you are
outfitting 9 datacenters and expecting to supply 10-20 servers per
datacenter with a X hour 24x7 support contract, you will get a different
level of support then if you call and want 3 servers.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org



On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:
> >> I would be curious to know the size of the companies.
> >
> > The size of companies?  Well, Dell is big as is HP.
>
>   I expect he meant the purchasing companies.  If you're buying 100s
> of PCs, I'm sure you get better service from Dell or HP than if you're
> buying a handful.
>
> -- Ben
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Re: Fake antivirus

[Roger Wright]

I've been able to cleanup a few machines with redirects using
Kaspersky's TDSSKiller tool in safe mode
.
http://support.kaspersky.com/viruses/solutions?qid=208280684


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On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Ziots, Edward  wrote:
> Could be that IE is hooked with a BHO, or other malware, usually a lot
> of attacks can utilize the BEEF ( Browser Exploitation Framework)
>
> Z
>
> Edward E. Ziots
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
> Security Engineer
> Lifespan Organization
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:23 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Fake antivirus
>
> On Fri June 17 2011, you wrote:
>> Get autoruns out and find out where the entry point is
>>
> Good idea...thanks for reminding me of this tool. Unfortunately nothing
> jumps out at me regarding this... all I know is random IE windows pop up
> on
> this thing, going to Facebook and advertising websites. Fortunately no
> pr0n.
>
> --
> Thanks,
> John Aldrich
> Blueridge Industries
> IT Manager
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RE: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit

[John Cook]

IIRC that is correct, it's been a while since I did it.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 12:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit

Thanks Cameron.  Actually we're not having problems with the file server 
rename/file copy piece, it's getting the printers from the old server to come 
over to the new server.  What I'm seeing seems to indicate that we have to 
install 64 bit drivers on the old server for each particular printer that 
exists and then do the migration that way to make the printers come over to 
where the 64 bit server will re-create or import them.

Don


From: Cameron 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 10:25:50 AM
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit
Why not just use a new name for the server? If you are using a login script, 
tis easy enough to change user by user...and takes the pressure off of you.

Just a thought...
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Don Kuhlman 
mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Hi folks. Happy Friday.

At the new gig now and have been assigned another project which I haven't 
worked on before.  We're migrating a 2003 32 bit Windows file/print server to 
2008R2.  I've never had to move printers/print servers before because we never 
used Windows Print servers at old j0b.

My question is this - to migrate printers/print drivers from 32 bit 2003 server 
to 64 bit 2008R2, do you have to first put 64 bit drivers on the old server 
that has the 32 bit drivers, and do they have to have the exact same names as 
the existing 32 bit drivers in order to migrate successfully to 64 bit?

Thanks!

Here is the background (long) synopsis...

I've been researching this since yesterday, and haven't come up with a solid 
answer that is clear.  I've got a server migration scheduled for this weekend 
and the printers are a major part of it, so I'm hoping the list can point me in 
the right direction.

I've built the new 2008 server, gave it a temporary name, etc.
Plan is to ship it to the site, migrate the data, shares, permissions, and 
printers, then rename the old one, rename the new one to the old one's name, 
and be done.

While tyring to do the printer piece, I used printmig to backup and restore the 
printers from the 32 bit box to the new 64 bit box.  However, the new 2008 R2 
server isn't importing or restoring any of the printers - I guess because they 
are all 32 bit drivers but not sure.

So in my research I see that you can use Printbrm.exe on 2008 to try it, or the 
Print Migration features of the 2008 Print Management role.  The printer 
migration tool is also failing - errors like 0x80070705 and 0x80070c6 are 
showing on that tool.

I checked around and ended up on the MS Print blogs here - 
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd379557(WS.10).aspx and another 
site here - 
http://blogs.technet.com/b/print/archive/2009/08/17/print-services-migration-guide.aspx



This was listed as a tip in the blog -

As a best practice, you need to install a driver with the same name as the 
native architecture. To add the x86-based driver to the x64-based destination 
server, use the x86-based client to remotely open the x64-based server using 
Windows Explorer and navigate to the remote printer folder and add the driver. 
To install an x64-based driver on the x86-based source server, use the 
x64-based client to remotely open the x86-based server using Windows Explorer 
and navigate to the remote printer folder and add the driver.



Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Don K

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Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[Jonathan Link]

Out of curiosity, what model Dell notebooks and what version of PGP are you
running?




On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum  wrote:

> Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for
> something that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole Disk
> Encryption (or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I have
> downloaded their latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add it to
> the PGP Universal Server.
>
> ** **
>
> Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can’t get the answer
> unless I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.
>
> ** **
>
> I called them at 11am local, said I’d get a call right back, they left me a
> VM at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM…
>
> ** **
>
> Dave
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support
>
> ** **
>
> Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites a$$.
> Thank you, Symantec.
>
> *David Lum*
> Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 //* *Mobile 503.267.9764
>
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Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit

[Don Kuhlman]

Thanks Cameron.  Actually we're not having problems with the file server 
rename/file copy piece, it's getting the printers from the old server to come 
over to the new server.  What I'm seeing seems to indicate that we have to 
install 64 bit drivers on the old server for each particular printer that 
exists 
and then do the migration that way to make the printers come over to where the 
64 bit server will re-create or import them.

Don





From: Cameron 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 10:25:50 AM
Subject: Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit


Why not just use a new name for the server? If you are using a login script, 
tis 
easy enough to change user by user...and takes the pressure off of you.

Just a thought...


On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Don Kuhlman  wrote:

Hi folks. Happy Friday.
>
>At the new gig now and have been assigned another project which I haven't 
>worked 
>on before.  We're migrating a 2003 32 bit Windows file/print server to 
>2008R2.  
>I've never had to move printers/print servers before because we never used 
>Windows Print servers at old j0b.
>
>My question is this - to migrate printers/print drivers from 32 bit 2003 
>server 
>to 64 bit 2008R2, do you have to first put 64 bit drivers on the old server 
>that 
>has the 32 bit drivers, and do they have to have the exact same names as the 
>existing 32 bit drivers in order to migrate successfully to 64 bit?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Here is the background (long) synopsis...
>
>I've been researching this since yesterday, and haven't come up with a solid 
>answer that is clear.  I've got a server migration scheduled for this weekend 
>and the printers are a major part of it, so I'm hoping the list can point me 
>in 
>the right direction.
>
>I've built the new 2008 server, gave it a temporary name, etc.
>Plan is to ship it to the site, migrate the data, shares, permissions, and 
>printers, then rename the old one, rename the new one to the old one's name, 
>and 
>be done.
>
>While tyring to do the printer piece, I used printmig to backup and restore 
>the 
>printers from the 32 bit box to the new 64 bit box.  However, the new 2008 R2 
>server isn't importing or restoring any of the printers - I guess because they 
>are all 32 bit drivers but not sure. 
>
>
>So in my research I see that you can use Printbrm.exe on 2008 to try it, or 
>the 
>Print Migration features of the 2008 Print Management role.  The printer 
>migration tool is also failing - errors like 0x80070705 and 0x80070c6 are 
>showing on that tool.
>
>I checked around and ended up on the MS Print blogs here - 
>http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd379557(WS.10).aspx and another 
>site 
>here - 
>http://blogs.technet.com/b/print/archive/2009/08/17/print-services-migration-guide.aspx
>
> 
>This was listed as a tip in the blog - 
>As a best practice, you need to install a driver with the same name as the 
>native architecture. To add the x86-based driver to the x64-based destination 
>server, use the x86-based client to remotely open the x64-based server using 
>Windows Explorer and navigate to the remote printer folder and add the driver. 
>To install an x64-based driver on the x86-based source server, use the 
>x64-based 
>client to remotely open the x86-based server using Windows Explorer and 
>navigate 
>to the remote printer folder and add the driver.
> 
>Any thoughts would be appreciated!
>
>Don K
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Re: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[Ben Scott]

  Symantec has become the Computer Associates of the 21st century.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for
> something that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole Disk
> Encryption (or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I have
> downloaded their latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add it to
> the PGP Universal Server.
>
>
>
> Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can’t get the answer
> unless I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.
>
>
>
> I called them at 11am local, said I’d get a call right back, they left me a
> VM at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM…
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support
>
>
>
> Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites a$$.
> Thank you, Symantec.
>
> David Lum
> Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 // Mobile 503.267.9764
>
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Re: Dear Dell

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:
>> I would be curious to know the size of the companies.
>
> The size of companies?  Well, Dell is big as is HP.

  I expect he meant the purchasing companies.  If you're buying 100s
of PCs, I'm sure you get better service from Dell or HP than if you're
buying a handful.

-- Ben

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RE: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support - Update

[David Lum]

Been over a week, support still sucks. I am now playing phone tag for something 
that I am sure is just a simple KB article. We use PGP Whole Disk Encryption 
(or whatever Sh*tmantec they want to label it now). I have downloaded their 
latest PGP desktop client and I simply need to add it to the PGP Universal 
Server.

Should be a simple document, but Symantec insists I can't get the answer unless 
I talk to the specific tech person assigned to my case.

I called them at 11am local, said I'd get a call right back, they left me a VM 
at 3:05pm local. I leave at 3PM...

Dave

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Thank you Symantec for ruining PGP support

Used to be straightforward getting to technical support, now it bites a$$. 
Thank you, Symantec.
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Mobile 503.267.9764

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Re: Dear Dell

[Steven Peck]

The size of companies?  Well, Dell is big as is HP.

We are an HP shop and currently buy through Quest.  That said, we talk to
our HP TAM and Quest Sales person to coordinate our lease refreshes.  Any
moderate sized purchase should be planned out like this.  We are part way
through refreshing 24 enclosures for this year and having coordinated like
this, little supply issues can be dealt with and the venders can plan to
have things available.  Quest also knows if we get really irritated we'll
switch to CDW or something.

I am sure both Dell and HP would be more then happy to bring in the power
point presentations to show how their integrated solutions of hardware and
monitoring are awesomeness :)
Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org


On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Ryan Finnesey <
ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com> wrote:

> I would be curious to know the size of the companies.  I will soon be
> building out 9 data centers and I need to decide if I want to go Dell or
> HP.  Right now, I am thinking HP.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2011 5:33 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Dear Dell
>
>
>
> Just noticed this too.  I was not notified by Dell about my last reorg of
> reps.
>
>
>
> Way too many account changes IMO.  Every couple of months lately.  And
> every time they want a 30 minute conference call to learn about our
> business.  They should store our info in CRM or something and just pass it
> onto the next team, because I kindly decline those calls now.
>
>
>
> I’ve been ordering more and more from CDW and Amazon, unless its Dell
> branded.  *The premier page KILLS me.*  Slow as heck, and WAY too many
> clicks to place an order.  CDW/Amazon are 1 or 2 clicks to place an order.
>
> Time is money.
>
>
>
> Currently, the parts department contacted me to return a warrantied part
> they shipped out a few days ago.
>
> That’s odd, I haven’t had a support/warranty case open in months.  Sigh.
>
>
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2011 1:50 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: Dear Dell
>
>
>
> If you have a massive wide reorganization of account reps to match up with
> geographical location, please notify your customers, it's just good customer
> service[1].
>
> Also, if you fail to do that, please at least quote the order correctly the
> first time.  Quotes with items missing, quantities wrong on multiple
> products "don't look too good."[2]
>
> One last thing.  Do not quote me pricess in excess of what I see on the
> premier page, if the only thing I want you to do is to give me a media CD.
>
>
>
> [1] Sometimes your customers have their own situations to deal with, you
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>
> [3] Wonder if I should just shelve the purchase, and pursue Lenovo after I
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RE: Fake antivirus

[Tammy Stewart]

I'm sure they'll find it. :)

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Thanks... filled out a ticket. I didn't know my Customer ID, though. :D




-Original Message-
From: Tammy Stewart [mailto:copper...@personainternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

If the machine has VIpre -- Give us a shout John, We'll find that hijacker.
:)

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-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Could be... He's got Google Toolbar. I wonder if some enterprising hacker
has found a way to use that to load their ads?



-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Could be that IE is hooked with a BHO, or other malware, usually a lot
of attacks can utilize the BEEF ( Browser Exploitation Framework)

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
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Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505



-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

On Fri June 17 2011, you wrote:
> Get autoruns out and find out where the entry point is
> 
Good idea...thanks for reminding me of this tool. Unfortunately nothing 
jumps out at me regarding this... all I know is random IE windows pop up
on 
this thing, going to Facebook and advertising websites. Fortunately no 
pr0n.

-- 
Thanks,
John Aldrich
Blueridge Industries
IT Manager

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Re: Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit

[Cameron]

Why not just use a new name for the server? If you are using a login script,
tis easy enough to change user by user...and takes the pressure off of you.

Just a thought...

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Don Kuhlman  wrote:

>  Hi folks. Happy Friday.
>
> At the new gig now and have been assigned another project which I haven't
> worked on before.  We're migrating a 2003 32 bit Windows file/print server
> to 2008R2.  I've never had to move printers/print servers before because we
> never used Windows Print servers at old j0b.
>
> My question is this - to migrate printers/print drivers from 32 bit 2003
> server to 64 bit 2008R2, do you have to first put 64 bit drivers on the old
> server that has the 32 bit drivers, and do they have to have the exact same
> names as the existing 32 bit drivers in order to migrate successfully to 64
> bit?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Here is the background (long) synopsis...
>
> I've been researching this since yesterday, and haven't come up with a
> solid answer that is clear.  I've got a server migration scheduled for this
> weekend and the printers are a major part of it, so I'm hoping the list can
> point me in the right direction.
>
> I've built the new 2008 server, gave it a temporary name, etc.
> Plan is to ship it to the site, migrate the data, shares, permissions, and
> printers, then rename the old one, rename the new one to the old one's name,
> and be done.
>
> While tyring to do the printer piece, I used printmig to backup and restore
> the printers from the 32 bit box to the new 64 bit box.  However, the new
> 2008 R2 server isn't importing or restoring any of the printers - I guess
> because they are all 32 bit drivers but not sure.
>
> So in my research I see that you can use Printbrm.exe on 2008 to try it, or
> the Print Migration features of the 2008 Print Management role.  The printer
> migration tool is also failing - errors like 0x80070705 and 0x80070c6 are
> showing on that tool.
>
> I checked around and ended up on the MS Print blogs here -
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd379557(WS.10).aspx and
> another site here -
> http://blogs.technet.com/b/print/archive/2009/08/17/print-services-migration-guide.aspx
>
>
>
> This was listed as a tip in the blog -
>
> As a best practice, you need to install a driver with the same name as the
> native architecture. To add the x86-based driver to the x64-based
> destination server, use the x86-based client to remotely open the x64-based
> server using Windows Explorer and navigate to the remote printer folder and
> add the driver. To install an x64-based driver on the x86-based source
> server, use the x64-based client to remotely open the x86-based server using
> Windows Explorer and navigate to the remote printer folder and add the
> driver.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated!
>
>
> Don K
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Printer/Print server migration from 2003 32 bit to 2008R2 64 bit

[Don Kuhlman]

Hi folks. Happy Friday.

At the new gig now and have been assigned another project which I haven't 
worked 
on before.  We're migrating a 2003 32 bit Windows file/print server to 2008R2.  
I've never had to move printers/print servers before because we never used 
Windows Print servers at old j0b.

My question is this - to migrate printers/print drivers from 32 bit 2003 server 
to 64 bit 2008R2, do you have to first put 64 bit drivers on the old server 
that 
has the 32 bit drivers, and do they have to have the exact same names as the 
existing 32 bit drivers in order to migrate successfully to 64 bit?

Thanks!

Here is the background (long) synopsis...

I've been researching this since yesterday, and haven't come up with a solid 
answer that is clear.  I've got a server migration scheduled for this weekend 
and the printers are a major part of it, so I'm hoping the list can point me in 
the right direction.

I've built the new 2008 server, gave it a temporary name, etc.
Plan is to ship it to the site, migrate the data, shares, permissions, and 
printers, then rename the old one, rename the new one to the old one's name, 
and 
be done.

While tyring to do the printer piece, I used printmig to backup and restore the 
printers from the 32 bit box to the new 64 bit box.  However, the new 2008 R2 
server isn't importing or restoring any of the printers - I guess because they 
are all 32 bit drivers but not sure. 


So in my research I see that you can use Printbrm.exe on 2008 to try it, or the 
Print Migration features of the 2008 Print Management role.  The printer 
migration tool is also failing - errors like 0x80070705 and 0x80070c6 are 
showing on that tool.

I checked around and ended up on the MS Print blogs here - 
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd379557(WS.10).aspx and another 
site 
here - 
http://blogs.technet.com/b/print/archive/2009/08/17/print-services-migration-guide.aspx

 
This was listed as a tip in the blog - 
As a best practice, you need to install a driver with the same name as the 
native architecture. To add the x86-based driver to the x64-based destination 
server, use the x86-based client to remotely open the x64-based server using 
Windows Explorer and navigate to the remote printer folder and add the driver. 
To install an x64-based driver on the x86-based source server, use the 
x64-based 
client to remotely open the x86-based server using Windows Explorer and 
navigate 
to the remote printer folder and add the driver.
 
Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Don K
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Re: file copying

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Rubens Almeida  wrote:
> If you prefer something more GUI oriented rather than robocopy take a
> look at RichCopy.

  OP said RichCopy kept hanging.

-- Ben

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Re: OTish: Need some ideas on troubleshooting web browsing problem

[Kurt Buff]

I don't think TCP offload is an issue here.

I finally found some time, and am doing something I've not done before.

I put wireshark on a spare XP machine, and turned on tcpdump for each
NIC on our firewall, and fired up a web page that I thought would be
slow - www.bostonglobe.com - because nobody was likely to have hit it
that day.

Initial investigation of just the workstation capture shows that it
takes almost a full minute for all of the DNS calls to get answered,
though http requests start in the middle of that, and finish within
milliseconds of the DNS requests finishing. The odd thing is that
wireshark shows that that initial name requests are for  records,
and I also noticed some DHCPv6 requests in the trace. So, I checked,
and yes, IPv6 had been installed on the machine.

More work to be done on this, but I have to wonder of the slowness
isn't somehow related to the IPv6 requests not being satisfied. My
other hypothesis is that our DCs are overloaded, and not responding to
name requests in a timely fashion,.

I'm going to use mergecap and editcap to produce a slimmed down and
unified trace, so that I can see everything relevant in one trace.
That should prove quite interesting.

Kurt

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 06:13, Jeff Bunting  wrote:
> Have you looked at the NIC offload settings?  I recently had a similar
> problem on my home machine.  I was getting a lot of intermittent DNS
> failures though TCP connectivity (once established) seemed OK.  I had
> switched among the ISP DNS, Google DNS, and OpenDNS without any better
> results, so figured it was something with my new equipment -  I had recently
> replaced the NIC, switch, and router because of lightning, so where to look
> wasn't immediately evident.
> I eventually fired up wireshark and saw that header checksums were often
> showing up as zeroes.  After disabling offloading, everything was OK again.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>>
>> Pardon the lateness of this reply (I've been out of town for a couple
>> of days), but no, the lack of consistency leaves me with questions,
>> not answers - because I have only one instance of inside being slower
>> than outside. Let me be a bit more specific:
>>
>> Date         Machine   Elapsed
>> 2011-05-03   Ext       40m
>> 2011-05-03   Int1      40m
>>
>> 2011-05-06   Ext       2h 46m
>> 2011-05-06   Int1      2h 46m
>> 2011-05-06   Int2      2h 46m
>>
>> 2011-05-08   Ext       40m
>> 2011-05-06   Int1      2h 46m
>> 2011-05-06   Int2      DNF
>>
>> So, before I left work on Wednesday, I scheduled this same task for
>> 12:30 daily on each of the machines. I'll be using the new data for a
>> deeper analysis.
>>
>> Unfortunately, my manager just emailed me that he's "tweaked our DNS
>> setup" while I was out - who knows how, or how that affected things.
>>
>> Sigh.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 03:25, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
>> > Doesn't the fact that there is no consistency in the data from systems
>> > placed at different points in your network *helpful* to determining
>> > where
>> > there is a potential slowdown?
>> >
>> > Users complain about slow performance, and your logging shows that
>> > speeds
>> > outside are faster than those inside.
>> >
>> > This would indicate that something on the inside is a bottleneck at that
>> > time...
>> >
>> > It would seem to me that you have more than enough data to drill down
>> > and
>> > find out where the issues are taking place.
>> >
>> > ASB (Professional Bio)
>> > Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> I'm in need of a new approach to troubleshooting staff complaints
>> >> about intermittent slowness of web browsing. We have about 200 staff
>> >> members on site, the symptoms are intermittent at best, but include
>> >> some generalized slowness in page loads, and occasional complete page
>> >> misses - that is, staff report that a page fails to load at all, with
>> >> a message that the system can't find the page, but hitting refresh
>> >> will usually bring the page right up.
>> >>
>> >> My current testing methodology seems to be getting me nowhere and
>> >> causing me to lose hair in great chunks. I outline the methodology
>> >> below because someone might spot a flaw in it.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not well versed in reading packets, so haven't yet resorted to
>> >> wireshark or tcpdump, but my testing so far leads me to believe that I
>> >> won't find much that way. If your reading of the situation leads you
>> >> to believe otherwise, I'm all ears. But I'm also really interested in
>> >> hearing other things all y'all might suggest on how to go about this.
>> >>
>> >> Network physical configuration:
>> >>     DS3 >> HP 2524 switch >> Sidewinder firewall >> HP 2524 switch >>
>> >> Barracuda web filter >> HP 3400cl switch >> production VLANs
>> >>
>> >> Network logical configuration:
>>

RE: Fake antivirus

[John Aldrich]

Thanks... filled out a ticket. I didn't know my Customer ID, though. :D




-Original Message-
From: Tammy Stewart [mailto:copper...@personainternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

If the machine has VIpre -- Give us a shout John, We'll find that hijacker.
:)

www.gfi.com/supportform

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Could be... He's got Google Toolbar. I wonder if some enterprising hacker
has found a way to use that to load their ads?



-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Could be that IE is hooked with a BHO, or other malware, usually a lot
of attacks can utilize the BEEF ( Browser Exploitation Framework)

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505



-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

On Fri June 17 2011, you wrote:
> Get autoruns out and find out where the entry point is
> 
Good idea...thanks for reminding me of this tool. Unfortunately nothing 
jumps out at me regarding this... all I know is random IE windows pop up
on 
this thing, going to Facebook and advertising websites. Fortunately no 
pr0n.

-- 
Thanks,
John Aldrich
Blueridge Industries
IT Manager

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Re: file copying

[Rubens Almeida]

If you prefer something more GUI oriented rather than robocopy take a
look at RichCopy.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Ziots, Edward  wrote:
> I usually use the Robocopy 2010 version via the command-line, I found
> the GUI to be a bit cludgy.
>
> Z
>
> Edward E. Ziots
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
> Security Engineer
> Lifespan Organization
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:14 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: file copying
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Level 5 Lists 
> wrote:
>> I have a client that we need to migrate about 2tb of data. I recently
> used
>> xcopy gui but it didn't seem to bring a lot of permissions over and I
> had to
>> go back through and redo it.
>
>  ROBOCOPY.
>
>  Use the /COPYALL switch to include DACLs (permissions), along with
> everything else file-related (SACLs (auditing) might be of interest).
>
>  My usual command line for something like this is:
>
>        ROBOCOPY /E /COPYALL /DCOPY:T /NFL /NDL /R:0 /B
>
>  /E = Copy subdirs, including empty ones.
>
>  /DCOPY:T = For directories, copy timestamps.  Otherwise all the
> directories end up showing a last modified of today.
>
>  /NFL /NDL = I suppress file and directory lists because I just want
> to know about problems.  I already know it's going to be copying
> files.  Silence is golden.  But if something goes *wrong*, I want that
> to stick out, and not immediately scroll off the screen.
>
>  /R:0 = In most cases, I don't find retries to be useful, so I
> disable them.  Usually if a file can't be copied trying again in 30
> seconds won't help, and the delay slows everything down considerably.
>
>  /B = Request "backup semantics".  That preserves the "last accessed"
> timestamps on the originals.
>
> -- Ben
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Re: Dear Dell

[Jonathan Link]

We're probably on the small side.
35-40 ish.
I've had a new rep about every year on average (5 since taking my present
position).  I've had two great ones, a good one who was too busy, a really
lousy one, and so far the one I have no appears to be the worst.

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Ryan Finnesey <
ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com> wrote:

> I would be curious to know the size of the companies.  I will soon be
> building out 9 data centers and I need to decide if I want to go Dell or
> HP.  Right now, I am thinking HP.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2011 5:33 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Dear Dell
>
> ** **
>
> Just noticed this too.  I was not notified by Dell about my last reorg of
> reps.
>
> ** **
>
> Way too many account changes IMO.  Every couple of months lately.  And
> every time they want a 30 minute conference call to learn about our
> business.  They should store our info in CRM or something and just pass it
> onto the next team, because I kindly decline those calls now.  
>
> ** **
>
> I’ve been ordering more and more from CDW and Amazon, unless its Dell
> branded.  *The premier page KILLS me.*  Slow as heck, and WAY too many
> clicks to place an order.  CDW/Amazon are 1 or 2 clicks to place an order.
> 
>
> Time is money.
>
> ** **
>
> Currently, the parts department contacted me to return a warrantied part
> they shipped out a few days ago.
>
> That’s odd, I haven’t had a support/warranty case open in months.  Sigh.**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> Sam
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2011 1:50 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: Dear Dell
>
> ** **
>
> If you have a massive wide reorganization of account reps to match up with
> geographical location, please notify your customers, it's just good customer
> service[1].
>
> Also, if you fail to do that, please at least quote the order correctly the
> first time.  Quotes with items missing, quantities wrong on multiple
> products "don't look too good."[2]
>
> One last thing.  Do not quote me pricess in excess of what I see on the
> premier page, if the only thing I want you to do is to give me a media CD.
> 
>
>  
>
> [1] Sometimes your customers have their own situations to deal with, you
> can exacerbate an already bad situation by ignoring your customers[3]
>
> [2] I'm aware of the grammar.  Use a southern accent and it's all good.***
> *
>
> [3] Wonder if I should just shelve the purchase, and pursue Lenovo after I
> get back from vacation.
>
>  
>
>  
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Re: OTish: Need some ideas on troubleshooting web browsing problem

[Jeff Bunting]

Have you looked at the NIC offload settings?  I recently had a similar
problem on my home machine.  I was getting a lot of intermittent DNS
failures though TCP connectivity (once established) seemed OK.  I had
switched among the ISP DNS, Google DNS, and OpenDNS without any better
results, so figured it was something with my new equipment -  I had recently
replaced the NIC, switch, and router because of lightning, so where to look
wasn't immediately evident.

I eventually fired up wireshark and saw that header checksums were often
showing up as zeroes.  After disabling offloading, everything was OK again.


Jeff


On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> Pardon the lateness of this reply (I've been out of town for a couple
> of days), but no, the lack of consistency leaves me with questions,
> not answers - because I have only one instance of inside being slower
> than outside. Let me be a bit more specific:
>
> Date Machine   Elapsed
> 2011-05-03   Ext   40m
> 2011-05-03   Int1  40m
>
> 2011-05-06   Ext   2h 46m
> 2011-05-06   Int1  2h 46m
> 2011-05-06   Int2  2h 46m
>
> 2011-05-08   Ext   40m
> 2011-05-06   Int1  2h 46m
> 2011-05-06   Int2  DNF
>
> So, before I left work on Wednesday, I scheduled this same task for
> 12:30 daily on each of the machines. I'll be using the new data for a
> deeper analysis.
>
> Unfortunately, my manager just emailed me that he's "tweaked our DNS
> setup" while I was out - who knows how, or how that affected things.
>
> Sigh.
>
> Kurt
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 03:25, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
> > Doesn't the fact that there is no consistency in the data from systems
> > placed at different points in your network *helpful* to determining where
> > there is a potential slowdown?
> >
> > Users complain about slow performance, and your logging shows that speeds
> > outside are faster than those inside.
> >
> > This would indicate that something on the inside is a bottleneck at that
> > time...
> >
> > It would seem to me that you have more than enough data to drill down and
> > find out where the issues are taking place.
> >
> > ASB (Professional Bio)
> > Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I'm in need of a new approach to troubleshooting staff complaints
> >> about intermittent slowness of web browsing. We have about 200 staff
> >> members on site, the symptoms are intermittent at best, but include
> >> some generalized slowness in page loads, and occasional complete page
> >> misses - that is, staff report that a page fails to load at all, with
> >> a message that the system can't find the page, but hitting refresh
> >> will usually bring the page right up.
> >>
> >> My current testing methodology seems to be getting me nowhere and
> >> causing me to lose hair in great chunks. I outline the methodology
> >> below because someone might spot a flaw in it.
> >>
> >> I'm not well versed in reading packets, so haven't yet resorted to
> >> wireshark or tcpdump, but my testing so far leads me to believe that I
> >> won't find much that way. If your reading of the situation leads you
> >> to believe otherwise, I'm all ears. But I'm also really interested in
> >> hearing other things all y'all might suggest on how to go about this.
> >>
> >> Network physical configuration:
> >> DS3 >> HP 2524 switch >> Sidewinder firewall >> HP 2524 switch >>
> >> Barracuda web filter >> HP 3400cl switch >> production VLANs
> >>
> >> Network logical configuration:
> >> No VLANs externally, 9 VLANs that run over the 3400cl and 18
> >> VLANs (the ones on the 3400cl, plus 9 for test/dev/other) that run on
> >> the internal HP 2524. The firewall is a HA pair (active/passive) and
> >> has a VLANed interface to the HP 2524 - it sees all of the VLANs.
> >>
> >> Other data:
> >> I've got ntop running on two different points on the network -
> >> the external HP 2524, and the HP 3400cl - no load anomalies for the
> >> LAN or Internet connection noted.
> >>
> >> Testing methodology:
> >> I have placed a FreeBSD box with a public IP address external to
> >> the firewall, and two FreeBSD boxes internal to the firewall on
> >> different VLANs. One of the internal FreeBSD boxes is on a VLAN that
> >> doesn't traverse the 3400cl, and the other is placed in a VLAN that
> >> does - both VLANs transit the Barracuda, as do all staff machines.
> >> Each box has cURL installed (there's a version for Windows as well),
> >> and is given an identical list of about 2100 unique (http://fqdn only
> >> - not http://fqdn/somepath) URLs to resolve and download. I kick off
> >> the batch files manually - and simultaneously.
> >> The batch file is simple:
> >>  date > /root/out.txt
> >>  /usr/local/bin/curl -K /root/urls.txt >> /root/out.txt
> >>  date >> /root/out.txt
> >> The entries are all formatted similarly, 

RE: Resetting Domain Administrator password - Server 2008 R2

[Guyer, Don]

I went through something similar.

 

I asked if anyone knew the AD Restore password and got blank stares in
return...

 

Easily fixable, but annoying, nonetheless...

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  

 

From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Resetting Domain Administrator password - Server 2008 R2

 

I inherited this :) won't be like this going forward you can bet!

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:

It may just be time to build and document it right as awful as that
option seems to be.  You gain the long term benefit o fknow exactly what
the environment is now.

 

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Ben N  wrote:

No this is like a onsite user demo environment, but on a bigger scale. 2
Physical hosts and about a dozen VMs.. it is no way a copy of our
production AD.

 

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Guyer, Don 
wrote:

If this is going to be a copy of your live AD environment, any way you
can back the live up to a DVD (or other media) and restore it into this
environment?

 

I know, not a "quick" solution...

 

J

 

Don Guyer

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RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

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Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673  

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  

 

From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:22 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Resetting Domain Administrator password - Server 2008 R2

 

No one else that works here still was a DA. These servers have been off
for almost a year. I don't want to have to rebuilt AD.+

 

-Ben

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:18 PM,  wrote:

No one else was a DA ?



 

 

  



From:Ben N  
To:"NT System Admin Issues"
 
Date:06/16/2011 03:17 PM 
Subject:Resetting Domain Administrator password - Server 2008 R2







So i have an old set of servers as VMs. They had their own AD servers as
well, but no one remembers the logon or work here anymore. 

I am trying to go through and reset the the domain administrator account
password. I have already blanked out the machine useraccount, so i can
reboot, F8, pick directory restore, and logon that way. 

I'm using the srvany.exe method, using a complex password. It doesn't
seem to work. Anyone have luck with this in the past? 

I'm following directions from here: 
http://www.petri.co.il/reset_domain_admin_password_in_windows_server_200
3_ad.htm 

But i thought it was odd he had D:\temp\cmd.exe instead of
c:\windows\system32\cmd.exe...  So i using Robert STrom's script file
instead and that looks good to me. 

I've checked the registry setting for the service, looks good. Service
looks good, although i had to manually check that interactive option on
the Logon (2nd) tab. 
But every time i boot this server up.. wait a few minutes. my new
password isn't taking. I wish i knew if there was some kind of error
message or something so i can see if there is am mistake somewhere. 

or i'm open to other ideas on how to do this same thing. 

-Ben 

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RE: Fake antivirus

[Tammy Stewart]

If the machine has VIpre -- Give us a shout John, We'll find that hijacker.
:)

www.gfi.com/supportform

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Could be... He's got Google Toolbar. I wonder if some enterprising hacker
has found a way to use that to load their ads?



-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Could be that IE is hooked with a BHO, or other malware, usually a lot
of attacks can utilize the BEEF ( Browser Exploitation Framework)

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
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-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

On Fri June 17 2011, you wrote:
> Get autoruns out and find out where the entry point is
> 
Good idea...thanks for reminding me of this tool. Unfortunately nothing 
jumps out at me regarding this... all I know is random IE windows pop up
on 
this thing, going to Facebook and advertising websites. Fortunately no 
pr0n.

-- 
Thanks,
John Aldrich
Blueridge Industries
IT Manager

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RE: Fake antivirus

[John Aldrich]

Could be... He's got Google Toolbar. I wonder if some enterprising hacker
has found a way to use that to load their ads?



-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Could be that IE is hooked with a BHO, or other malware, usually a lot
of attacks can utilize the BEEF ( Browser Exploitation Framework)

Z

Edward E. Ziots
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Security Engineer
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Cell:401-639-3505



-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

On Fri June 17 2011, you wrote:
> Get autoruns out and find out where the entry point is
> 
Good idea...thanks for reminding me of this tool. Unfortunately nothing 
jumps out at me regarding this... all I know is random IE windows pop up
on 
this thing, going to Facebook and advertising websites. Fortunately no 
pr0n.

-- 
Thanks,
John Aldrich
Blueridge Industries
IT Manager

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RE: Fake antivirus

[Ziots, Edward]

Could be that IE is hooked with a BHO, or other malware, usually a lot
of attacks can utilize the BEEF ( Browser Exploitation Framework)

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
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-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

On Fri June 17 2011, you wrote:
> Get autoruns out and find out where the entry point is
> 
Good idea...thanks for reminding me of this tool. Unfortunately nothing 
jumps out at me regarding this... all I know is random IE windows pop up
on 
this thing, going to Facebook and advertising websites. Fortunately no 
pr0n.

-- 
Thanks,
John Aldrich
Blueridge Industries
IT Manager

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RE: file copying

[Ziots, Edward]

I usually use the Robocopy 2010 version via the command-line, I found
the GUI to be a bit cludgy. 

Z

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-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: file copying

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Level 5 Lists 
wrote:
> I have a client that we need to migrate about 2tb of data. I recently
used
> xcopy gui but it didn't seem to bring a lot of permissions over and I
had to
> go back through and redo it.

  ROBOCOPY.

  Use the /COPYALL switch to include DACLs (permissions), along with
everything else file-related (SACLs (auditing) might be of interest).

  My usual command line for something like this is:

ROBOCOPY /E /COPYALL /DCOPY:T /NFL /NDL /R:0 /B

  /E = Copy subdirs, including empty ones.

  /DCOPY:T = For directories, copy timestamps.  Otherwise all the
directories end up showing a last modified of today.

  /NFL /NDL = I suppress file and directory lists because I just want
to know about problems.  I already know it's going to be copying
files.  Silence is golden.  But if something goes *wrong*, I want that
to stick out, and not immediately scroll off the screen.

  /R:0 = In most cases, I don't find retries to be useful, so I
disable them.  Usually if a file can't be copied trying again in 30
seconds won't help, and the delay slows everything down considerably.

  /B = Request "backup semantics".  That preserves the "last accessed"
timestamps on the originals.

-- Ben

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Re: Fake antivirus

[John Aldrich]

On Fri June 17 2011, you wrote:
> Get autoruns out and find out where the entry point is
> 
Good idea...thanks for reminding me of this tool. Unfortunately nothing 
jumps out at me regarding this... all I know is random IE windows pop up on 
this thing, going to Facebook and advertising websites. Fortunately no 
pr0n.

-- 
Thanks,
John Aldrich
Blueridge Industries
IT Manager

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Re: file copying

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Level 5 Lists  wrote:
> I have a client that we need to migrate about 2tb of data. I recently used
> xcopy gui but it didn’t seem to bring a lot of permissions over and I had to
> go back through and redo it.

  ROBOCOPY.

  Use the /COPYALL switch to include DACLs (permissions), along with
everything else file-related (SACLs (auditing) might be of interest).

  My usual command line for something like this is:

ROBOCOPY /E /COPYALL /DCOPY:T /NFL /NDL /R:0 /B

  /E = Copy subdirs, including empty ones.

  /DCOPY:T = For directories, copy timestamps.  Otherwise all the
directories end up showing a last modified of today.

  /NFL /NDL = I suppress file and directory lists because I just want
to know about problems.  I already know it's going to be copying
files.  Silence is golden.  But if something goes *wrong*, I want that
to stick out, and not immediately scroll off the screen.

  /R:0 = In most cases, I don't find retries to be useful, so I
disable them.  Usually if a file can't be copied trying again in 30
seconds won't help, and the delay slows everything down considerably.

  /B = Request "backup semantics".  That preserves the "last accessed"
timestamps on the originals.

-- Ben

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RE: Fake antivirus

[Ziots, Edward]

They posted it on the Clear-Cloud site I believe  
http://clearclouddns.com 

Effective September 1, 2011, GFI's ClearCloud DNS service will be
discontinued and no longer available for consumer use. We would like to
thank all of the beta testers for their valuable feedback throughout
this last 12 month evaluation period. To discontinue using the
ClearCloud DNS service, you will need to reconfigure your network
connection. If this is not done prior to September 1, 2011, your
Internet connectivity will be interrupted.

 

Z

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Security Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

 

From: David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

 

I heard Sunbelt is going to discontinue the ClearCloud service -- anyone
know if/when that's going to happen?

David



On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:53 AM, Jonathan  wrote:

I've run into a nice variant of this just this morningthe window is
titled, "Windows Vista Restore" and the caption at the top of the window
says, "PC Performance & Stability analysis report". It is telling me hat
the hard drive is failing and that private data is at risk.

 

When I went into the root of C:. it only showed one file, named
bootsect.bak. After I chose to display all hidden and os files,
viola,everything in C: and on the desktop appeared.

 

What a way to start a Thursday - at least it isn't Monday!

 

JR

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Roger Wright  wrote:

Try setting him up with ClearCloudDNS - might help prevent future
infections.


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On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:34 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:
> Thanks... This particular user is unlucky enough to have teenagers who
use
> his computer. My guess is they are visiting infected/hostile/0wned
sites and
> that's how he's getting infected. Never really had a problem when he
was
> working here, so I'm suspecting it's some of his grandkids that are
causing
> the problem.
>

> As I have not yet seen the problem, I don't know if it's going to be
easy or
> difficult. Hopefully MBAM and Vipre won't have any problem with it. :D
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
>

> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:31 AM

> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Fake antivirus
>

> May be time to invest in some UAT (user awareness training). Continual
> re-infestation either means he is unlucky, or gung-ho in his browsing.
>
> I've had some fake AVs recently which were ridiculously easy to get
rid of
> (kill process, delete files, remove autorun entry). Others have been
more
> stealthy - such as killing targeted windows like Task Manager. Booting
into
> safe mode usually prevents these extra "features" from bothering you.
>
> But as with everything - a reimage may be the only way to be sure.
> On 3 June 2011 15:26, John Aldrich 
wrote:

> I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his
system
> (again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got
Vipre
> Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I
haven't
> had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if
they
> have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?
>
> Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway.
Should I
> submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
quarantined)???
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>

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> wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight
becomes
> boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my
two-stone
> cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become
in any
> way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a
bit
> more temperamental.

> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint se