RE: Any opinion on iBac of IdealStor?

[Ryan, Randy]

I used iBac for a while for 100% of backups.  Exchange, SQL and file server 
data.  Pretty good system, runs multiple backup jobs and is only limited by the 
bandwidth.  Easy to manage with the exception of trying to keep up with the 
licenses to go with what machine doing the backup.  Only have it for a couple 
of file servers now, using BE with IBM tape library now.

The major drawback would seem to be it has to run on their hardware.



Randy



-Original Message-
From: Jay Kulsh [mailto:jayku...@csi.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Any opinion on iBac of IdealStor?

Has anyone worked with iBac of IdealStor? Any good or bad experience? It is a 
backup solution that uses snapshots. Thanks.

Jay K.
So. Pasadena, CA
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Re: Gmail rant

[James Rankin]

I was just as annoyed at first.however I have now gotten used to it,
although it is nicer to be asked.

I do have very good eyesight though, to be fair. Knowing Google, they
probably have removed the option to change it. Apparently they know what is
best :-0

On 9 January 2012 13:08, Richard McClary  wrote:

> Greetings!
>
> ** **
>
> I seem to have lost the ability to turn my Gmail reader back to the “old
> format”.  I don’t know what the @#*& they were “thinking”, but I simply
> cannot read things in that big mass of white.  It is not easy to figure out
> what those little black smears are which were once actual text.
>
> ** **
>
> Twice I found a link to revert.  Now that option is gone.  HELP???
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
>
> richard
>
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Re: Gmail rant

[Graeme Carstairs]

why not just change the them, I have a nice dark one with white text easy
to read and the new layout is so much better.


On 9 January 2012 13:08, Richard McClary  wrote:

> Greetings!
>
> ** **
>
> I seem to have lost the ability to turn my Gmail reader back to the “old
> format”.  I don’t know what the @#*& they were “thinking”, but I simply
> cannot read things in that big mass of white.  It is not easy to figure out
> what those little black smears are which were once actual text.
>
> ** **
>
> Twice I found a link to revert.  Now that option is gone.  HELP???
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
>
> richard
>
>
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Re: Gmail rant

[Lee Douglas]

I also am not impressed. I guess, though, that you have tried changing the
settings. They do offer several choices, one of which may offer some
improvement.



On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:23 AM, James Rankin  wrote:

> I was just as annoyed at first.however I have now gotten used to it,
> although it is nicer to be asked.
>
> I do have very good eyesight though, to be fair. Knowing Google, they
> probably have removed the option to change it. Apparently they know what is
> best :-0
>
> On 9 January 2012 13:08, Richard McClary wrote:
>
>> Greetings!
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I seem to have lost the ability to turn my Gmail reader back to the “old
>> format”.  I don’t know what the @#*& they were “thinking”, but I simply
>> cannot read things in that big mass of white.  It is not easy to figure out
>> what those little black smears are which were once actual text.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Twice I found a link to revert.  Now that option is gone.  HELP???
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>>
>> richard
>>
>>
>> The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is
>> from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals®
>> (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and
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OT Gmail rant

[Kennedy, Jim]

Interesting, I just change mine back to the old format...on the settings 'gear' 
on the right side. Must not be my turn to be borged yet. My biggest complaint 
on the new layout is getting to older emails beyond page one is a pita.

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Gmail rant

I was just as annoyed at first.however I have now gotten used to it, 
although it is nicer to be asked.

I do have very good eyesight though, to be fair. Knowing Google, they probably 
have removed the option to change it. Apparently they know what is best :-0
On 9 January 2012 13:08, Richard McClary 
mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org>> wrote:
Greetings!

I seem to have lost the ability to turn my Gmail reader back to the "old 
format".  I don't know what the @#*& they were "thinking", but I simply cannot 
read things in that big mass of white.  It is not easy to figure out what those 
little black smears are which were once actual text.

Twice I found a link to revert.  Now that option is gone.  HELP???

Thanks!
--
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you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily 
in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, 
you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also 
committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress..

The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the 
information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a 
pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should 
you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please 
pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass 
them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for 
transmission.

In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please 
return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife 
wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly 
half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets 
At Home yesterday.

We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running 
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do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that 
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may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from 
time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, 
where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR 
FAULT!

The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my 
employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of 
the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea.


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RE: Gmail rant

[Richard McClary]

Interesting!

I went hunting for perhaps a better "theme", and I noticed a second cog icon.  
This one, rather than at the top, was to the immediate right of the icon bar.  
It was faint and almost lost in the glare.  THAT cog let me revert 
"temporarily", again.

I'm much happier now, and I'm glad I'm not the only person who dislikes the new 
format.

Thanks!
--
richard

From: leedoug...@pellis.com [mailto:leedoug...@pellis.com] On Behalf Of Lee 
Douglas
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Gmail rant

I also am not impressed. I guess, though, that you have tried changing the 
settings. They do offer several choices, one of which may offer some 
improvement.


On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:23 AM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
I was just as annoyed at first.however I have now gotten used to it, 
although it is nicer to be asked.

I do have very good eyesight though, to be fair. Knowing Google, they probably 
have removed the option to change it. Apparently they know what is best :-0
On 9 January 2012 13:08, Richard McClary 
mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org>> wrote:
Greetings!

I seem to have lost the ability to turn my Gmail reader back to the "old 
format".  I don't know what the @#*& they were "thinking", but I simply cannot 
read things in that big mass of white.  It is not easy to figure out what those 
little black smears are which were once actual text.

Twice I found a link to revert.  Now that option is gone.  HELP???

Thanks!
--
richard


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machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly 
to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."

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This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If 
you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore 
you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the 
contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the 
intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, 
you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily 
in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, 
you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also 
committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress..

The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the 
information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a 
pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should 
you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please 
pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass 
them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for 
transmission.

In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please 
return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife 
wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly 
half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets 
At Home yesterday.

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time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, 
where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR 
FAULT!

The comments and opinions expressed 

Re: Gmail rant

[James Rankin]

Well I'll be.I never noticed that "cog" either. And there's me boasting
about my vision. Oh the irony.

On 9 January 2012 13:41, Richard McClary  wrote:

> Interesting!
>
> ** **
>
> I went hunting for perhaps a better “theme”, and I noticed a second cog
> icon.  This one, rather than at the top, was to the immediate right of the
> icon bar.  It was faint and almost lost in the glare.  THAT cog let me
> revert “temporarily”, again.
>
> ** **
>
> I’m much happier now, and I’m glad I’m not the only person who dislikes
> the new format.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
>
> richard
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* leedoug...@pellis.com [mailto:leedoug...@pellis.com] *On Behalf
> Of *Lee Douglas
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 7:35 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Gmail rant
>
> ** **
>
> I also am not impressed. I guess, though, that you have tried changing the
> settings. They do offer several choices, one of which may offer some
> improvement.
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:23 AM, James Rankin 
> wrote:
>
> I was just as annoyed at first.however I have now gotten used to it,
> although it is nicer to be asked.
>
> I do have very good eyesight though, to be fair. Knowing Google, they
> probably have removed the option to change it. Apparently they know what is
> best :-0
>
> On 9 January 2012 13:08, Richard McClary 
> wrote:
>
> Greetings!
>
>  
>
> I seem to have lost the ability to turn my Gmail reader back to the “old
> format”.  I don’t know what the @#*& they were “thinking”, but I simply
> cannot read things in that big mass of white.  It is not easy to figure out
> what those little black smears are which were once actual text.
>
>  
>
> Twice I found a link to revert.  Now that option is gone.  HELP???
>
>  
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
>
> richard
>
> ** **
>
>
> The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is
> from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals®
> (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and
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> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
> ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER *
>
> This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is
> addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to
> you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to
> you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then
> you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a
> mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and
> destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken
> this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer,
> because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide
> afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. *
>
> *The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the
> information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a
> pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But
> should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it,
> and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However,
> if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding
> liability for transmission.*
>
> *In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then
> please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's
> brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately
> refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought
> when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. *
>
> *We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are
> running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the
> event that you do get this message 

Re: Gmail rant

[Ben Scott]

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Richard McClary
 wrote:
> I’m much happier now, and I’m glad I’m not the only person who dislikes the
> new format.

  Far from it.  Here's my rant from when Google first inflicted this upon me:



  New color scheme uses lots of similar colors and shaded backgrounds.
 It also uses faint color variations where before it just had simple
text/character markers (e.g., current message).  The result: Loss of
contrast, loss of visual cues.  I find it much harder to read.

 Various functions I used a lot -- especially "Mark as Read" -- have
been moved into a "More" drop down menu.  This despite there being
plenty of free space in the bar for the buttons.

 The label list now expands and contracts automatically when I point
to it.  This damages subconscious memory of where labels are.  It's a
moving target.  Fail.

  When the message list is "semi-collapsed" (message hidden but
snippets still visible), it uses at least twice as much space per
message as before.

  The colored name labels for different people in a conversation are
gone.  I guess the face icons are supposed to replace that, but not
everyone has a Google account with a photo, thanks.

  And that's just what I discovered in the first 30 seconds, before I
switched back to the "old look".

  Dear software companies everywhere, but especially Google,
Microsoft, and Facebook: Stop fscking moving everything around because
the latest wanker you hired thinks he can improve things 0.023% or
because some focus group said gray is the new black.  Leave it fscking
where it is so we have a hope in heck of learning how to use it.  We
don't change how cars and light switches work every three years, and
there's a darn good reason for that.  So stop it.  Just.  Stop.

 Sincerely,

Ben Scott
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Re: Gmail rant

[Ben Scott]

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:50 AM, James Rankin  wrote:
> Well I'll be.I never noticed that "cog" either. And there's me boasting
> about my vision. Oh the irony.

  "Vision is not observation".  :-)  I tell my minions that all the time.  :)

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Re: OT Gmail rant

[Andrew S. Baker]

They're rolling it out in stages. For a while, I had the option to revert,
but that has gone now.

While I am less annoyed about the interface than when I first encountered
it, I am very far away from being pleased.  The icons are way too subtle,
and the interface is way too jumpy with all sorts of mouse rollover
activity.

At the rate the web is going, I'm just going to spend more time building my
own tools to interface with various APIs and avoid the prevailing
interfaces of the day.

-ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker

Sent from my Motorola Droid
 On Jan 9, 2012 8:43 AM, "Kennedy, Jim" 
wrote:

> Interesting, I just change mine back to the old format…on the settings
> ‘gear’ on the right side. Must not be my turn to be borged yet. My biggest
> complaint on the new layout is getting to older emails beyond page one is a
> pita.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 8:23 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Gmail rant
>
> ** **
>
> I was just as annoyed at first.however I have now gotten used to it,
> although it is nicer to be asked.
>
> I do have very good eyesight though, to be fair. Knowing Google, they
> probably have removed the option to change it. Apparently they know what is
> best :-0
>
> On 9 January 2012 13:08, Richard McClary 
> wrote:
>
> Greetings!
>
>  
>
> I seem to have lost the ability to turn my Gmail reader back to the “old
> format”.  I don’t know what the @#*& they were “thinking”, but I simply
> cannot read things in that big mass of white.  It is not easy to figure out
> what those little black smears are which were once actual text.
>
>  
>
> Twice I found a link to revert.  Now that option is gone.  HELP???
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RE: Fun with Hyper-V - and failover hardware Q's

[Mike Hoffman]

Remember that SBS2K3 is not supported by MS in a virtual environment - but does 
work. Have you considered doing a proper DR practice to see what happens?

You might be in a better position than you think. If you have Shadow Copy on 
the drives and can access the Exchange store then you will have a much smaller 
window of data loss - as long as you can get the raw VM data across.

Can you put a hold on the email flow into the system? Can you break the server 
data into other places i.e. a drive on a NAS box which keeps a copy of the user 
data for while they are switching over?

I would look to planning an upgrade to SBS 2011, if not for now then for soon. 
Take a look at the swing migration options as you are really talking about a 
hardware swing in a DR scenario - you can keep the plates spinning while you 
move what you need to without a major impact.

Sounds like VMHost2 is much older and therefore slower, but an upgrade might be 
cost effective.

I would test the DR option and see if they are happy with performance. You 
could stop email, turn off all machines, run backup, turn off old box, start 
backup box and then start desktops to see how it runs - if enough data is 
cached then it might be fine after a slow logon for users.

Mike

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: 09 January 2012 05:47
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Fun with Hyper-V - and failover hardware Q's

I have a client with SBS 2K3 (VM-SBS1) that's VM'd on a 2K8 (non-R2) server 
(VMHOST1). I now nightly have it shooting backups of VM-SBS1 VHD's to a 2008 R2 
Hyper-V server (VMHOST2) at 6PM. I have the R2 server configured to use these 
disk's as a  VM on it (VM-SBS1-SPARE) and this VM will always be off. Both 
VMHOST servers have local storage only, no SAN. But by doing backups this way 
my thinking is worst case scenario if VMHOST1 or VM-SBS1 get KIA I simply spool 
up VM-SBS1-SPARE and away I go.The worst case scenario is the live servers die 
at 5:58PM and my client loses 1 day of data

While this puts me miles ahead of where I had been (previously the best I had 
was local eSATA backup which takes 3 hours to copy back local), there is the 
not insignificant issue that VMHOST2 has RAID1 SATA drives whereas VMHOST1 has 
RAID5 SAS 15K RPM drives. Performance will suck, and in fact I'm not sure WHAT 
kind of performance this would have with Exchange and SQL and 55 users hooked 
to it. I am assuming it would be better than nothing, but...
How much should I be concerned with performance? I am imagining the worst case 
would be the client has to run on VMHOST2 for a day or two while VMHOST1 gets 
rebuilt (say there's a hardware issue and Dell needs to deliver a part). I am 
thinking  I have 3 options, in increasing order of cost:

1.   Don't sweat it, it's a decent DR option

2.   Upgrade the VMHOST2 drives to SAS drives(~$1000)

3.   Come up with an iSCSI solution (effectively this 
http://garvis.ca/2011/08/30/busting-the-myth-you-cannot-cluster-windows-small-business-server/)
I could probably get them to go with option 2, the caveat here is that server 
is out of warranty although it's not that old (ship date 10/19/07). I will talk 
it over with my client, but also wantde to get your guys'opinions.
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Re: OT Gmail rant

[Ben Scott]

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
> At the rate the web is going, I'm just going to spend more time building my
> own tools to interface with various APIs and avoid the prevailing interfaces
> of the day.

  Standard protocols?  That's crazy talk!  ;-)

  Actually, that's a good point.  Google still supports IMAP.  It used
to be few freemail providers did (has that changed?).  I rather like
the "old look", but I can always go back to reading my mail in my
client of choice.

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RE: Fun with Hyper-V - and failover hardware Q's

[David Lum]

I've had their SBS 2K3 on a VM for a long time now (it's on non-R2 Server 2008 
Hyper-V, if that's any indication) and I have confirmed I can stand up the SBS 
VM on VMHOST2 from backups (never have tested external logins or other 
functionality yet though - that's next week). The SATA speed on VMHOST2 is such 
doesn't boot much slower than on VMHOST1, it's performance with more than 5 
folks hooked to it that I am not sure of.

An upgrade to SBS2011 is actually some of the driving force as they already 
have purchased it - I am going to upgrade the VMHOST1 OS to 2008 R2 and the 
vendor that their AR software runs on (Springbrook, and they're scheduled to 
upgrade their software this month as well) recommends with RAID1 or RAID 10 and 
specifically discourages RAID5. Their VMHOST1 server is on RAID5, so I am going 
to add a disk and change to a pair of RAID1 volumes, which requires completely 
flattening the existing Hyper-V config, which also means I need to be REALLY 
comfortable with the DR on their SBS server :). VMHOST2 is a little older 
(PowerEdge SC1435, circa 2007), but still has enough oomph (12GB RAM, a dual 
core AMD Opteron's) to be serviceable.

Once I get the host OS upgraded to R2 I will buy one of the swing kits from 
SBSMIGRATION. I have done a swing migration just once before, and it was 
actually from a standard domain/Exchange onto the SBS 2K3 platform (different 
client).

Q: Can you put a hold on the email flow into the system?
A: Yes, their e-mail hits a Barracuda device first

Q: Can you break the server data into other places i.e. a drive on a NAS box 
which keeps a copy of the user data for while they are switching over?
A: I have a NAS box (but it's not NTFS) as well as VMHOST2. Not fully following 
you here though...

Dave


From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:m...@drumbrae.net]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 6:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fun with Hyper-V - and failover hardware Q's

Remember that SBS2K3 is not supported by MS in a virtual environment - but does 
work. Have you considered doing a proper DR practice to see what happens?

You might be in a better position than you think. If you have Shadow Copy on 
the drives and can access the Exchange store then you will have a much smaller 
window of data loss - as long as you can get the raw VM data across.

Can you put a hold on the email flow into the system? Can you break the server 
data into other places i.e. a drive on a NAS box which keeps a copy of the user 
data for while they are switching over?

I would look to planning an upgrade to SBS 2011, if not for now then for soon. 
Take a look at the swing migration options as you are really talking about a 
hardware swing in a DR scenario - you can keep the plates spinning while you 
move what you need to without a major impact.

Sounds like VMHost2 is much older and therefore slower, but an upgrade might be 
cost effective.

I would test the DR option and see if they are happy with performance. You 
could stop email, turn off all machines, run backup, turn off old box, start 
backup box and then start desktops to see how it runs - if enough data is 
cached then it might be fine after a slow logon for users.

Mike

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: 09 January 2012 05:47
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Fun with Hyper-V - and failover hardware Q's

I have a client with SBS 2K3 (VM-SBS1) that's VM'd on a 2K8 (non-R2) server 
(VMHOST1). I now nightly have it shooting backups of VM-SBS1 VHD's to a 2008 R2 
Hyper-V server (VMHOST2) at 6PM. I have the R2 server configured to use these 
disk's as a  VM on it (VM-SBS1-SPARE) and this VM will always be off. Both 
VMHOST servers have local storage only, no SAN. But by doing backups this way 
my thinking is worst case scenario if VMHOST1 or VM-SBS1 get KIA I simply spool 
up VM-SBS1-SPARE and away I go.The worst case scenario is the live servers die 
at 5:58PM and my client loses 1 day of data

While this puts me miles ahead of where I had been (previously the best I had 
was local eSATA backup which takes 3 hours to copy back local), there is the 
not insignificant issue that VMHOST2 has RAID1 SATA drives whereas VMHOST1 has 
RAID5 SAS 15K RPM drives. Performance will suck, and in fact I'm not sure WHAT 
kind of performance this would have with Exchange and SQL and 55 users hooked 
to it. I am assuming it would be better than nothing, but...
How much should I be concerned with performance? I am imagining the worst case 
would be the client has to run on VMHOST2 for a day or two while VMHOST1 gets 
rebuilt (say there's a hardware issue and Dell needs to deliver a part). I am 
thinking  I have 3 options, in increasing order of cost:

1.   Don't sweat it, it's a decent DR option

2.   Upgrade the VMHOST2 drives to SAS drives(~$1000)

3.   Come up with an iSCSI solution (effectively this 
http://garvis.ca/2011/08/30/busting-the-myth-you-cannot-cluster-windows-s

RE: OT Gmail rant

[Heaton, Joseph@DFG]

I'm not sure what the big deal is, personally.  I've been using the new format 
for a while now.  I applied a theme to it, to separate the mail from the plain 
background.  I have the density settings to comfortable, which gives separation 
from each other.  As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old 
arrow right at the top of the screen.  I haven't noticed a whole lot of 
rollover activity, other than one section on the left side, but that may be 
from a lack of stuff that I'm doing with the client, I don't know...


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:12 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
> At the rate the web is going, I'm just going to spend more time 
> building my own tools to interface with various APIs and avoid the 
> prevailing interfaces of the day.

  Standard protocols?  That's crazy talk!  ;-)

  Actually, that's a good point.  Google still supports IMAP.  It used to be 
few freemail providers did (has that changed?).  I rather like the "old look", 
but I can always go back to reading my mail in my client of choice.

-- Ben

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RE: OT Gmail rant

[Kennedy, Jim]

For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select 'show 
more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on the arrow 
is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it, the unread/inbox 
goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done with it.

-Original Message-
From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at the 
top of the screen


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Re: OT Gmail rant

[Steven Peck]

I don't like the new format either.  Using the 'Compact' version of it
makes it more tolerable but enh.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG wrote:

> I'm not sure what the big deal is, personally.  I've been using the new
> format for a while now.  I applied a theme to it, to separate the mail from
> the plain background.  I have the density settings to comfortable, which
> gives separation from each other.  As far as getting to the older e-mails,
> there's a big old arrow right at the top of the screen.  I haven't noticed
> a whole lot of rollover activity, other than one section on the left side,
> but that may be from a lack of stuff that I'm doing with the client, I
> don't know...
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:12 AM
> To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
> > At the rate the web is going, I'm just going to spend more time
> > building my own tools to interface with various APIs and avoid the
> > prevailing interfaces of the day.
>
>  Standard protocols?  That's crazy talk!  ;-)
>
>  Actually, that's a good point.  Google still supports IMAP.  It used to
> be few freemail providers did (has that changed?).  I rather like the "old
> look", but I can always go back to reading my mail in my client of choice.
>
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RE: OT Gmail rant

[Christopher Bodnar]

Can't remember the last time I logged into the web interface of Gmail to 
check it. Have my iPhone and Outlook at home configured for Gmail. No 
issues.


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From:   "Kennedy, Jim" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:   01/09/2012 11:17 AM
Subject:RE: OT Gmail rant



For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select 
'show more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on 
the arrow is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it, 
the unread/inbox goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done 
with it.

-Original Message-
From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at 
the top of the screen


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Re: OT Gmail rant

[Mike Sullivan]

I just click on "1-25 of many" and it then switches over to the arrows.

If you like the classic inbox style hover your mouse over the inbox just
under the COMPOSE button. You will see a down arrow, click on the down
arrow and then choose classic.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Kennedy, Jim
wrote:

> For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select
> 'show more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on
> the arrow is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it,
> the unread/inbox goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done
> with it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant
>
> As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at
> the top of the screen
>
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Expaning Subnet again

[Stefan Jafs]

I know we already talked about extending IP’s last week, however, I’m
trying to figure out how to add additional ranges and can’t seem to figure
it out.



I currently have 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 –
192.168.1.256 with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet
to 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:

192.168.2.0 – 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 – 192.168.3.256?


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RE: OT Gmail rant

[Kennedy, Jim]

I love you man! Thanks much.

From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant


If you like the classic inbox style hover your mouse over the inbox just under 
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choose classic.

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RE: Expaning Subnet again

[Kennedy, Jim]

Yes, but just to be clear you would have one subnet, one usable range.  
192.168.0.1 - 198.2.168.3.255

Download SolarWinds free Subnet Calculator. You have to provide an email 
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From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 12:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Expaning Subnet again

I know we already talked about extending IP's last week, however, I'm trying to 
figure out how to add additional ranges and can't seem to figure it out.

I currently have 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.256 
with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to 255.255.252.0, 
can I then simply add:
192.168.2.0 - 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 - 192.168.3.256?


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RE: OT Gmail rant

[Maglinger, Paul]

Gmail has Easter eggs now?

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

I love you man! Thanks much.

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Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
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Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant


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Re: Expaning Subnet again

[Kurt Buff]

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:07, Stefan Jafs  wrote:
> I know we already talked about extending IP’s last week, however, I’m trying
> to figure out how to add additional ranges and can’t seem to figure it out.
>
> I currently have 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 – 192.168.1.256
> with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to
> 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:
>
> 192.168.2.0 – 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 – 192.168.3.256?

Aside from the fact that you should not use 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.1.0
[1], you will at that point have a single subnet of 192.168.0.0 to
192.168.3.255, with 192.168.0.0 being your subnet address and
192.168.3.254 being your broadcast address.


Kurt

[1] Too much consumer and other equipment uses those to /24 subnets as
their default, and people don't tend to change them. Thus, using them
is not a good idea, especially if you have people connecting via VPN
to your environment.

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RE: Expaning Subnet again

[Eldridge, D K,]

Simple answer yes.

Your "network" ip will remain the same 192.168.0.0/22 .

The broadcast ip will change to 192.168.3.255/22 giving you 192.168.0.1
thru 192.168.3.254/22 as your new network.

Of course your default gateway can remain the same or you can change it
on your routers/layer3 and clients. Either way you will have to change
the subnet mask to reflect the change on all of them.

Hope that's what you're looking for.

 

dave

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Expaning Subnet again

 

I know we already talked about extending IP's last week, however, I'm
trying to figure out how to add additional ranges and can't seem to
figure it out.

 

I currently have 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 -
192.168.1.256 with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the
subnet to 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:

192.168.2.0 - 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 - 192.168.3.256?



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Re: Expaning Subnet again

[Jonathan Link]

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Kennedy, Jim
wrote:

> ** **
>
> Download SolarWinds free Subnet Calculator. You have to provide an email
> address but I do not recall ever getting spammed by them.
>
> ** **
>
>
> http://www.solarwinds.com/register/registrationshort.aspx?program=92&c=7015000CcHV&INTCMP=DLIndexA_FreeTools_freeSubnetCalculator
>

They are a prolific spammer.  Perhaps you have really good filtering.

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RE: Expaning Subnet again

[Crawford, Scott]

If you have a subnet mask of 255.255.254.0, then you have one range of 
192.168.0.0 - 192.268.1.255 (aka 192.168.0.0 /23) with a network address of 
192.168.0.0 and a broadcast address of 192.168.1.255.  If you change the subnet 
mask to 255.255.252.0, then you'll have a range of 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.3.255 
(aka 192.168.0.0 /22) with a network address of 192.168.0.0 and broadcast 
address of 192.168.3.255

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Expaning Subnet again

I know we already talked about extending IP's last week, however, I'm trying to 
figure out how to add additional ranges and can't seem to figure it out.

I currently have 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.256 
with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to 255.255.252.0, 
can I then simply add:
192.168.2.0 - 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 - 192.168.3.256?


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RE: OT Gmail rant

[Heaton, Joseph@DFG]

Not really an easter egg.  The down arrow is on the right side of the Inbox 
button, let's you arrange how mail is presented to you.

Joe Heaton
ITB - Windows Server Support

From: Paul Maglinger [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 9:33 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

Gmail has Easter eggs now?

From: Kennedy, Jim 
[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

I love you man! Thanks much.

From: Mike Sullivan 
[mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant


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RE: Domain Admin accounts

[Michael B. Smith]

If you are running any of the various auditing tools (Quest/NetPro, NetWrix, 
etc.) you can see what they are doing and make some reasonable guesses. But 
otherwise, nope.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 12:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Domain Admin accounts

We have several service accounts that are Domain Admin - is there any way to 
test for what permissions these accounts actually need short of "removing DA 
and see what happens?". I'm guessing no...
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764


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RE: Domain Admin accounts

[Kennedy, Jim]

Procmon on the services they are running comes to mindfigure out what 
processes they are using in task manager and filter Procmon to monitor those 
processes. That will give you a list of what they are doing, which you can look 
at and see what perms are required to do that. It will be a bit time consuming. 
Might be faster to off hours remove it and see what happens.  :)

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645

I doubt your services need to be Domain Admins. Most software plays much better 
than that these days. Certainly there are exceptions.

You could also toss up a list here of what software this is for if you want if 
that doesn't cause security concerns for you. I bet the collective will know 
about most of them.


From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 12:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Domain Admin accounts

We have several service accounts that are Domain Admin - is there any way to 
test for what permissions these accounts actually need short of "removing DA 
and see what happens?". I'm guessing no...
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764


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Re: OT Gmail rant

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

This is not an Easter egg.  There are different inbox views that can be
applied.

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On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Maglinger, Paul  wrote:

>  Gmail has Easter eggs now?
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant
>
>  ** **
>
> I love you man! Thanks much.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT Gmail rant
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
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Re: Expaning Subnet again

[Stefan Jafs]

Yes I have x.0 and x.256 excluded anyhow, and assume the brodcast is
192.168.3.256 not 254, right.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:07, Stefan Jafs  wrote:
> > I know we already talked about extending IP’s last week, however, I’m
> trying
> > to figure out how to add additional ranges and can’t seem to figure it
> out.
> >
> > I currently have 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 –
> 192.168.1.256
> > with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to
> > 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:
> >
> > 192.168.2.0 – 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 – 192.168.3.256?
>
> Aside from the fact that you should not use 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.1.0
> [1], you will at that point have a single subnet of 192.168.0.0 to
> 192.168.3.255, with 192.168.0.0 being your subnet address and
> 192.168.3.254 being your broadcast address.
>
>
> Kurt
>
> [1] Too much consumer and other equipment uses those to /24 subnets as
> their default, and people don't tend to change them. Thus, using them
> is not a good idea, especially if you have people connecting via VPN
> to your environment.
>
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RE: Any opinion on iBac of IdealStor?

[Ryan, Randy]

As far as it being a total 100% good solution, it wasn't.  The license scheme 
makes you load an agent with a unique serial number on each server to be backed 
up and then you have to match the serial number with that machine and remove it 
if you're replacing the server.  The backup logs were cryptic, but it wasn't 
too difficult to determine if a machine was backed up.

The one problem I always had was that the software tends to stop for some 
reason and unless the alerts are working properly and you catch it, you might 
miss a backup or two.

I wouldn't recommend it over BE, but pricewise it's not bad.  It was one of the 
few backup programs that would backup to removable disks and do sql and 
exchange backups that didn't cost an arm and a leg.  I looked at a bunch and 
iBac was the best of that pack.  Ultimately I did go to BE.



Thanks,

 Randy Ryan
Chief Technology Officer
Del Valle ISD Technology
512-386-3054 - Voice
512-386-3055 - Fax


-Original Message-
From: Jay Kulsh [mailto:jayku...@csi.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Any opinion on iBac of IdealStor?

Randy,

Thanks for responding. Can you please elaborate a bit on "trying to keep up 
with the licenses to go with what machine doing the backup."

Also did you find the job log files of iBac cyptic? Thanks.

Jay
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Re: Domain Admin accounts

[Christopher Bodnar]

Permissions or rights? If you are talking Rights in AD, then you can look 
at the Security logs on the domain controllers to get an idea of what 
those accounts are doing. Hopefully you have something in place that 
already does this (SCOM with ACS, Nitro,etc.).


Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003



From:   David Lum 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:   01/09/2012 01:12 PM
Subject:Domain Admin accounts



We have several service accounts that are Domain Admin – is there any way 
to test for what permissions these accounts actually need short of 
“removing DA and see what happens?”. I’m guessing no…
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Re: Expaning Subnet again

[Stefan Jafs]

Yes, that's my understanding, simply manually change the subnet mask in all
static devices and DHCP and then add the additional ranges to DHCP.

Correct?



On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Eldridge, D K,  wrote:

> Simple answer yes.
>
> Your “network” ip will remain the same 192.168.0.0/22 .
>
> The broadcast ip will change to 192.168.3.255/22 giving you 192.168.0.1
> thru 192.168.3.254/22 as your new network.
>
> Of course your default gateway *can* remain the same or you can change it
> on your routers/layer3 and clients. Either way you will have to change the
> subnet mask to reflect the change on all of them.
>
> Hope that’s what you’re looking for.
>
> ** **
>
> dave
>
> *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 10:07 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Expaning Subnet again
>
> ** **
>
> I know we already talked about extending IP’s last week, however, I’m
> trying to figure out how to add additional ranges and can’t seem to figure
> it out.
>
>  
>
> I currently have 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 –
> 192.168.1.256 with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet
> to 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:
>
> 192.168.2.0 – 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 – 192.168.3.256?
>
>
>
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Adfind & Active Email CSV Dump.

[Harry Singh]

All --

I could use a hand with generating the output  i need using adfind. I'm
trying to dump all active e-mail addresses excluding those belonging to
Disabled Users to a csv file for HR. I'm using the following syntax.

C:\Tools\AdFind>adfind -csv -nodn -b "dc=domain,dc=org" -f
"(&(objectCategory=
person)(objectClass=user))" name mail displayName > mailusersjan62012.csv

I suppose i could remove the -nodn and do find/replace within excel, but am
curious if there was a way to exclude disabled users. I do keep all my
disabled users in a single OU, so i'm assuming there could be a filter
switch i could use but am unfamiliar with that syntax as well.

Also, the above dumps name, mail and displayname, but is there to way to
only output if the the mail field is not null ? Since my objective is to
get all email addresses, I don't want those users who don't have anything
populated in the mail field to appear. Again, if i have to manipulate
excel, that could work but it would sweet if i could accomplish everything
with one command.

Regards,

Harry.

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RE: OT Gmail rant

[Maglinger, Paul]

It sounded to me like they were hiding the down arrow.  I understand now that 
they're just hiding the "classic" settings.  I agree with Ben, if it ain't 
broke, don't fix it.

Hey Detroit!  Let's put the gas pedal on the left and the brake pedal on the 
right and see how that works out!!!  It's bad enough they can't make up their 
minds where to put the gas caps.

But I digress...

GOM

From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

Not really an easter egg.  The down arrow is on the right side of the Inbox 
button, let's you arrange how mail is presented to you.

Joe Heaton
ITB - Windows Server Support

From: Paul Maglinger 
[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 9:33 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

Gmail has Easter eggs now?

From: Kennedy, Jim 
[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

I love you man! Thanks much.

From: Mike Sullivan 
[mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant


If you like the classic inbox style hover your mouse over the inbox just under 
the COMPOSE button. You will see a down arrow, click on the down arrow and then 
choose classic.

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RE: OT Gmail rant

[Sam Cayze]

+1.  I can never tolerate web mail, regardless of the provider or revision.

 

I need to be able to see previous responses, other emails, etc while
composing a message.  I don't know how people get anything done in the tiny
window of text in Gmail.

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

 

Can't remember the last time I logged into the web interface of Gmail to
check it. Have my iPhone and Outlook at home configured for Gmail. No
issues. 


Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003 



From:"Kennedy, Jim"  
To:"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date:01/09/2012 11:17 AM 
Subject:RE: OT Gmail rant 

  _  




For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select 'show
more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on the
arrow is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it, the
unread/inbox goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done with
it.

-Original Message-
From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [ 
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at the
top of the screen


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RE: Domain Admin accounts

[David Lum]

Doy...I should have thought of that. Thanks.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Domain Admin accounts

If you are running any of the various auditing tools (Quest/NetPro, NetWrix, 
etc.) you can see what they are doing and make some reasonable guesses. But 
otherwise, nope.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
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From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 12:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Domain Admin accounts

We have several service accounts that are Domain Admin - is there any way to 
test for what permissions these accounts actually need short of "removing DA 
and see what happens?". I'm guessing no...
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764


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RE: Expaning Subnet again

[Eldridge, D K,]

Should be for this size network.

 

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

 

Yes, that's my understanding, simply manually change the subnet mask in
all static devices and DHCP and then add the additional ranges to DHCP.

 

Correct?



 

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Eldridge, D K, 
wrote:

Simple answer yes.

Your "network" ip will remain the same 192.168.0.0/22 .

The broadcast ip will change to 192.168.3.255/22 giving you 192.168.0.1
thru 192.168.3.254/22 as your new network.

Of course your default gateway can remain the same or you can change it
on your routers/layer3 and clients. Either way you will have to change
the subnet mask to reflect the change on all of them.

Hope that's what you're looking for.

 

dave

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:07 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Expaning Subnet again

 

I know we already talked about extending IP's last week, however, I'm
trying to figure out how to add additional ranges and can't seem to
figure it out.

 

I currently have 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 -
192.168.1.256 with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the
subnet to 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:

192.168.2.0 - 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 - 192.168.3.256?



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Re: OT Gmail rant

[Rene de Haas]

Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't like
having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
hidden somewhere.


On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG wrote:

>  Not really an easter egg.  The down arrow is on the right side of the
> Inbox button, let’s you arrange how mail is presented to you.
>
> ** **
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> ITB – Windows Server Support
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Paul Maglinger [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 9:33 AM
> *To:* Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant
>
>  ** **
>
> Gmail has Easter eggs now?
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant
>
> ** **
>
> I love you man! Thanks much.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT Gmail rant
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
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RE: Adfind & Active Email CSV Dump.

[Michael B. Smith]

Adfind –csv –nodn –b “dc=domain,dc=org” –f 
“(&(objectCategory=person)(mail=*)(!userAccountControl:1.2.840.113556.1.4.803:=2))”
 name mail displayName
You won’t be able to copy-n-paste that, but if you type it in, it gives you 
what you want.

Regards,

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Consultant and Exchange MVP
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From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Adfind & Active Email CSV Dump.

All --

I could use a hand with generating the output  i need using adfind. I'm trying 
to dump all active e-mail addresses excluding those belonging to Disabled Users 
to a csv file for HR. I'm using the following syntax.

C:\Tools\AdFind>adfind -csv -nodn -b "dc=domain,dc=org" -f "(&(objectCategory=
person)(objectClass=user))" name mail displayName > mailusersjan62012.csv

I suppose i could remove the -nodn and do find/replace within excel, but am 
curious if there was a way to exclude disabled users. I do keep all my disabled 
users in a single OU, so i'm assuming there could be a filter switch i could 
use but am unfamiliar with that syntax as well.

Also, the above dumps name, mail and displayname, but is there to way to only 
output if the the mail field is not null ? Since my objective is to get all 
email addresses, I don't want those users who don't have anything populated in 
the mail field to appear. Again, if i have to manipulate excel, that could work 
but it would sweet if i could accomplish everything with one command.

Regards,

Harry.




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Re: OT Gmail rant

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

You can open additional Gmail windows, just like any proper email client.
 You can easily choose to open new messages in a pop-out.

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On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

> +1.  I can never tolerate web mail, regardless of the provider or revision.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> I need to be able to see previous responses, other emails, etc while
> composing a message.  I don’t know how people get anything done in the tiny
> window of text in Gmail.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 10:32 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant
>
> ** **
>
> Can't remember the last time I logged into the web interface of Gmail to
> check it. Have my iPhone and Outlook at home configured for Gmail. No
> issues.
>
>
> Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP
> Technical Support III
> Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
> Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
> Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
> Phone: 610-807-6459
> Fax: 610-807-6003
>
>
>
> From:"Kennedy, Jim" 
> To:"NT System Admin Issues"  >
> Date:01/09/2012 11:17 AM
> Subject:RE: OT Gmail rant 
>
> --
>
>
>
>
> For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select
> 'show more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on
> the arrow is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it,
> the unread/inbox goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done
> with it.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov ]
>
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant
>
> As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at
> the top of the screen
>
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Re: Expaning Subnet again

[Ben Scott]

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Stefan Jafs  wrote:
> I know we already talked about extending IP’s last week, however, I’m trying
> to figure out how to add additional ranges and can’t seem to figure it out.

  Did you write it out in binary like I did?

> I currently have 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.0.256 ...

  No, you don't.

  I'd suggest at least getting a better understanding of what you have
now, before you start renumbering.

  (Hint: A single byte allows 256 possible values, and IP starts
counting from zero.)

-- Ben

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Re: OT Gmail rant

[Ben Scott]

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Rene de Haas  wrote:
> Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
> I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't like
> having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
> hidden somewhere.

  Next year, they'll make it so the hidden buttons appear in random
positions on the screen.

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RE: Expaning Subnet again

[Crawford, Scott]

Do you mean .255?  There is no .256. Each octet goes from 0 to 255 for a total 
of 256 values.

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 12:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

Yes I have x.0 and x.256 excluded anyhow, and assume the brodcast is 
192.168.3.256 not 254, right.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Buff 
mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:07, Stefan Jafs 
mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I know we already talked about extending IP's last week, however, I'm trying
> to figure out how to add additional ranges and can't seem to figure it out.
>
> I currently have 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.256
> with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to
> 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:
>
> 192.168.2.0 - 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 - 192.168.3.256?
Aside from the fact that you should not use 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.1.0
[1], you will at that point have a single subnet of 192.168.0.0 to
192.168.3.255, with 192.168.0.0 being your subnet address and
192.168.3.254 being your broadcast address.


Kurt

[1] Too much consumer and other equipment uses those to /24 subnets as
their default, and people don't tend to change them. Thus, using them
is not a good idea, especially if you have people connecting via VPN
to your environment.

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Re: OT Gmail rant

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Its done in exactly the same way that labels (and now Circles) are handled.
 You hover over it, and you have access to an additional menu.  You dont
use these options often, so why have them constantly visible adding to a
busy/cluttered interface?  Ultimately, Im glad that it is done this way.

Yea, waa, I didnt know about it right-away, but what-ever.  I searched
Google for interface options, and it was relatively easy to find.

--
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On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Rene de Haas  wrote:

> Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
> I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't like
> having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
> hidden somewhere.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG wrote:
>
>>  Not really an easter egg.  The down arrow is on the right side of the
>> Inbox button, let’s you arrange how mail is presented to you.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Joe Heaton
>>
>> ITB – Windows Server Support
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Paul Maglinger [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 9:33 AM
>> *To:* Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant
>>
>>  ** **
>>
>> Gmail has Easter eggs now?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant
>>
>>  ** **
>>
>> I love you man! Thanks much.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: OT Gmail rant
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
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>> under the COMPOSE button. You will see a down arrow, click on the down
>> arrow and then choose classic. 
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RE: Expaning Subnet again

[Heaton, Joseph@DFG]

.255 is broadcast

Joe Heaton
ITB - Windows Server Support

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:31 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

Yes I have x.0 and x.256 excluded anyhow, and assume the brodcast is 
192.168.3.256 not 254, right.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Buff 
mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:07, Stefan Jafs 
mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I know we already talked about extending IP's last week, however, I'm trying
> to figure out how to add additional ranges and can't seem to figure it out.
>
> I currently have 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 - 192168.1.256
> with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to
> 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:
>
> 192.168.2.0 - 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 - 192.168.3.256?
Aside from the fact that you should not use 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.1.0
[1], you will at that point have a single subnet of 192.168.0.0 to
192.168.3.255, with 192.168.0.0 being your subnet address and
192.168.3.254 being your broadcast address.


Kurt

[1] Too much consumer and other equipment uses those to /24 subnets as
their default, and people don't tend to change them. Thus, using them
is not a good idea, especially if you have people connecting via VPN
to your environment.

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Re: Adfind & Active Email CSV Dump.

[Harry Singh]

Perfect! Worked like a charm!

Thanks Michael.



On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  Adfind –csv –nodn –b “dc=domain,dc=org” –f
> “(&(objectCategory=person)(mail=*)(!userAccountControl:1.2.840.113556.1.4.803:=2))”
> name mail displayName
>
> You won’t be able to copy-n-paste that, but if you type it in, it gives
> you what you want.
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,
>
> ** **
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 1:44 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Adfind & Active Email CSV Dump.
>
> ** **
>
> All --
>
> ** **
>
> I could use a hand with generating the output  i need using adfind. I'm
> trying to dump all active e-mail addresses excluding those belonging to
> Disabled Users to a csv file for HR. I'm using the following syntax.
>
> ** **
>
> C:\Tools\AdFind>adfind -csv -nodn -b "dc=domain,dc=org" -f
> "(&(objectCategory=
>
> person)(objectClass=user))" name mail displayName > mailusersjan62012.csv*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> I suppose i could remove the -nodn and do find/replace within excel, but
> am curious if there was a way to exclude disabled users. I do keep all my
> disabled users in a single OU, so i'm assuming there could be a filter
> switch i could use but am unfamiliar with that syntax as well.
>
> ** **
>
> Also, the above dumps name, mail and displayname, but is there to way to
> only output if the the mail field is not null ? Since my objective is to
> get all email addresses, I don't want those users who don't have anything
> populated in the mail field to appear. Again, if i have to manipulate
> excel, that could work but it would sweet if i could accomplish everything
> with one command.
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,
>
> ** **
>
> Harry.
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
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RE: Expaning Subnet again

[Crawford, Scott]

Yeah, writing it out in binary is great for getting an understanding of what's 
really going on.  I'd highly recommend reading Ben's earlier post a few times 
to let it sink in.  It isn't really complicated, but it does take a bit to get 
your head wrapped around it and figuring it all out in binary makes it much 
simpler since you can ignore the decimal translation, which is where a lot of 
the confusion comes in, for the time being.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Stefan Jafs  wrote:
> I know we already talked about extending IP's last week, however, I'm 
> trying to figure out how to add additional ranges and can't seem to figure it 
> out.

  Did you write it out in binary like I did?

> I currently have 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.0.256 ...

  No, you don't.

  I'd suggest at least getting a better understanding of what you have now, 
before you start renumbering.

  (Hint: A single byte allows 256 possible values, and IP starts counting from 
zero.)

-- Ben

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Re: Gmail rant

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

I agree that the loss of contrast is a huge mistake.

--
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On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Richard McClary
>  wrote:
> > I’m much happier now, and I’m glad I’m not the only person who dislikes
> the
> > new format.
>
>   Far from it.  Here's my rant from when Google first inflicted this upon
> me:
>
> 
>
>  New color scheme uses lots of similar colors and shaded backgrounds.
>  It also uses faint color variations where before it just had simple
> text/character markers (e.g., current message).  The result: Loss of
> contrast, loss of visual cues.  I find it much harder to read.
>
>  Various functions I used a lot -- especially "Mark as Read" -- have
> been moved into a "More" drop down menu.  This despite there being
> plenty of free space in the bar for the buttons.
>
>  The label list now expands and contracts automatically when I point
> to it.  This damages subconscious memory of where labels are.  It's a
> moving target.  Fail.
>
>  When the message list is "semi-collapsed" (message hidden but
> snippets still visible), it uses at least twice as much space per
> message as before.
>
>  The colored name labels for different people in a conversation are
> gone.  I guess the face icons are supposed to replace that, but not
> everyone has a Google account with a photo, thanks.
>
>  And that's just what I discovered in the first 30 seconds, before I
> switched back to the "old look".
>
>  Dear software companies everywhere, but especially Google,
> Microsoft, and Facebook: Stop fscking moving everything around because
> the latest wanker you hired thinks he can improve things 0.023% or
> because some focus group said gray is the new black.  Leave it fscking
> where it is so we have a hope in heck of learning how to use it.  We
> don't change how cars and light switches work every three years, and
> there's a darn good reason for that.  So stop it.  Just.  Stop.
>
>  Sincerely,
>
> Ben Scott
> Chief Disgruntled Officer
> Curmudgeons Local 151
>
> 
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RE: OT Gmail rant

[Sam Cayze]

I've tried that.

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

 

You can open additional Gmail windows, just like any proper email client.
You can easily choose to open new messages in a pop-out.

--
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On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

+1.  I can never tolerate web mail, regardless of the provider or revision.

 

I need to be able to see previous responses, other emails, etc while
composing a message.  I don't know how people get anything done in the tiny
window of text in Gmail.

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:32 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

 

Can't remember the last time I logged into the web interface of Gmail to
check it. Have my iPhone and Outlook at home configured for Gmail. No
issues. 



Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003 



From:"Kennedy, Jim"  
To:"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date:01/09/2012 11:17 AM 

Subject:RE: OT Gmail rant 

  _  




For me that arrow does not stick. I have to hit a dropdown and select 'show
more messages' then that big arrow is there. But log out and back on the
arrow is gone...have to do that every time. Then when you do hit it, the
unread/inbox goes away. I should just IMAP it to outlook and be done with
it.



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From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [ 
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 

 

Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT Gmail rant

As far as getting to the older e-mails, there's a big old arrow right at the
top of the screen



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Re: Expaning Subnet again

[Stefan Jafs]

Yes I see my error, 0 -> 255 not 1 - > 256.

Stefan
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Stefan Jafs 
> wrote:
> > I know we already talked about extending IP’s last week, however, I’m
> trying
> > to figure out how to add additional ranges and can’t seem to figure it
> out.
>
>   Did you write it out in binary like I did?
>
> > I currently have 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.0.256 ...
>
>  No, you don't.
>
>  I'd suggest at least getting a better understanding of what you have
> now, before you start renumbering.
>
>  (Hint: A single byte allows 256 possible values, and IP starts
> counting from zero.)
>
> -- Ben
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Re: OT Gmail rant

[Steven Peck]

YA!!!  Because if it were easy to find that would demonstrate a good UI.
oh wait

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Its done in exactly the same way that labels (and now Circles) are
> handled.  You hover over it, and you have access to an additional menu.
>  You dont use these options often, so why have them constantly visible
> adding to a busy/cluttered interface?  Ultimately, Im glad that it is done
> this way.
>
> Yea, waa, I didnt know about it right-away, but what-ever.  I searched
> Google for interface options, and it was relatively easy to find.
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Rene de Haas wrote:
>
>> Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
>> I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't
>> like having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
>> hidden somewhere.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG wrote:
>>
>>>  Not really an easter egg.  The down arrow is on the right side of the
>>> Inbox button, let’s you arrange how mail is presented to you.
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Joe Heaton
>>>
>>> ITB – Windows Server Support
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Paul Maglinger [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 9:33 AM
>>> *To:* Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
>>>
>>> *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant
>>>
>>>  ** **
>>>
>>> Gmail has Easter eggs now?
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:12 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* RE: OT Gmail rant
>>>
>>>  ** **
>>>
>>> I love you man! Thanks much.
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:56 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* Re: OT Gmail rant
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> If you like the classic inbox style hover your mouse over the inbox just
>>> under the COMPOSE button. You will see a down arrow, click on the down
>>> arrow and then choose classic. 
>>>
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Re: Expaning Subnet again

[Ben Scott]

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG  wrote:
> .255 is broadcast

  Not always.

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Re: Expaning Subnet again

[Stefan Jafs]

Just to get things right:
if i go with Subnet: 255.255.252.0 I can then have my range from:
192.168.0.0 -> 192.168.3.255 with
192.168.0.0 = Subnet Address and
192.168.3.25*5 *= Broadcast Address.

And yes I did get the "Advanced Subnet Calculator", do I really need to
count 0 and 1, it was like 40 year ago I took Binary in school.

Anyhow thanks all for your help as usual.
Stefan

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG wrote:

>  .255 is broadcast
>
> ** **
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> ITB – Windows Server Support
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 10:31 AM
> *To:* Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Expaning Subnet again
>
> ** **
>
> Yes I have x.0 and x.256 excluded anyhow, and assume the brodcast is
> 192.168.3.256 not 254, right.
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:***
> *
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:07, Stefan Jafs  wrote:
> > I know we already talked about extending IP’s last week, however, I’m
> trying
> > to figure out how to add additional ranges and can’t seem to figure it
> out.
> >
> > I currently have 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 –
> 192168.1.256
>
> > with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to
> > 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:
> >
> > 192.168.2.0 – 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 – 192.168.3.256?
>
>  Aside from the fact that you should not use 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.1.0
> [1], you will at that point have a single subnet of 192.168.0.0 to
> 192.168.3.255, with 192.168.0.0 being your subnet address and
> 192.168.3.254 being your broadcast address.
>
>
> Kurt
>
> [1] Too much consumer and other equipment uses those to /24 subnets as
> their default, and people don't tend to change them. Thus, using them
> is not a good idea, especially if you have people connecting via VPN
> to your environment.
>
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Re: OT Gmail rant

[Ben Scott]

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 wrote:
> Its done in exactly the same way that labels (and now Circles) are handled.

  Sucks for those, too.

> You dont use these options often, so why have them constantly
> visible adding to a busy/cluttered interface?

  Because it's a bad way to do a UI.  Seriously, they've done studies.
 Things that move around on their own are disruptive to both learning
and use.  UI elements should be fixed in place unless responding to
explict user "command".

  The "Auto hide taskbar" thing that many people like actually costs
them time, too.

-- Ben

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RE: OT Gmail rant

[Maglinger, Paul]

Like Easter eggs?

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Gmail rant

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Rene de Haas  wrote:
> Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
> I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't like
> having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
> hidden somewhere.

  Next year, they'll make it so the hidden buttons appear in random
positions on the screen.

-- Ben

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SQL Backup

[jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]

I'm finding this odd.

I have a SQL 2008R2 Database set for Simple Recovery Model.  The database
is showing 71GB in size according to the .mdb file.  of that, maybe only
3GB is free/unused space.

When running backups of that database from the SQL management studio, the
backup file, upon completion, is only 23GB or so in size.  (the backups
resides on a remote server and backup is done via UNC pathing)

I don't understand how that can be correct.  Seems like I'm missing a lot
of data here in the backup file?

What can I check to verify this?  (please note my DB/SQL skill are not
worth a darn... so dumb-down any responses requiring things to be checked
in SQL, ha)



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RE: Adfind & Active Email CSV Dump.

[Brian Desmond]

You can do it a bit easier with the –bit switch:

Adfind –csv –nodn –b “dc=domain,dc=org” –f 
“(&(objectCategory=person)(mail=*)(!userAccountControl:AND:=2))” –bit name mail 
displayName


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From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adfind & Active Email CSV Dump.

Adfind –csv –nodn –b “dc=domain,dc=org” –f 
“(&(objectCategory=person)(mail=*)(!userAccountControl:1.2.840.113556.1.4.803:=2))”
 name mail displayName
You won’t be able to copy-n-paste that, but if you type it in, it gives you 
what you want.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
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From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Adfind & Active Email CSV Dump.

All --

I could use a hand with generating the output  i need using adfind. I'm trying 
to dump all active e-mail addresses excluding those belonging to Disabled Users 
to a csv file for HR. I'm using the following syntax.

C:\Tools\AdFind>adfind -csv -nodn -b "dc=domain,dc=org" -f "(&(objectCategory=
person)(objectClass=user))" name mail displayName > mailusersjan62012.csv

I suppose i could remove the -nodn and do find/replace within excel, but am 
curious if there was a way to exclude disabled users. I do keep all my disabled 
users in a single OU, so i'm assuming there could be a filter switch i could 
use but am unfamiliar with that syntax as well.

Also, the above dumps name, mail and displayname, but is there to way to only 
output if the the mail field is not null ? Since my objective is to get all 
email addresses, I don't want those users who don't have anything populated in 
the mail field to appear. Again, if i have to manipulate excel, that could work 
but it would sweet if i could accomplish everything with one command.

Regards,

Harry.




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RE: Domain Admin accounts

[ed ziots]

It really depends on what the service does which would dictate what the 
privileges are needed for the account. Some of these accounts can be slimmed 
down with respect to the domain-wide privileges they need, and some might not. 
 
If you want to hit me offline to discuss the particulars, I can advise you more 
on this. You are going in the right direction as a "risk-reduction" measure. 
 
Z

Edward E. Ziots 
Senior Informational Security Engineer
CISSP,Security +,Network+ 

 



From: david@nwea.org
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 17:41:19 +
Subject: Domain Admin accounts






We have several service accounts that are Domain Admin – is there any way to 
test for what permissions these accounts actually need short of “removing DA 
and see what happens?”. I’m guessing no…
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RE: Expaning Subnet again

[Crawford, Scott]

Yup, and yes, you should be very familiar with binary. It's what everything is 
based on, afterall. :)

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

Just to get things right:
if i go with Subnet: 255.255.252.0 I can then have my range from:
192.168.0.0 -> 192.168.3.255 with
192.168.0.0 = Subnet Address and
192.168.3.255 = Broadcast Address.

And yes I did get the "Advanced Subnet Calculator", do I really need to count 0 
and 1, it was like 40 year ago I took Binary in school.

Anyhow thanks all for your help as usual.
Stefan
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG 
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov>> wrote:
.255 is broadcast

Joe Heaton
ITB - Windows Server Support

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:31 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

Yes I have x.0 and x.256 excluded anyhow, and assume the brodcast is 
192.168.3.256 not 254, right.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Buff 
mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:07, Stefan Jafs 
mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I know we already talked about extending IP's last week, however, I'm trying
> to figure out how to add additional ranges and can't seem to figure it out.
>
> I currently have 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 - 192168.1.256

> with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to
> 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:
>
> 192.168.2.0 - 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 - 192.168.3.256?
Aside from the fact that you should not use 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.1.0
[1], you will at that point have a single subnet of 192.168.0.0 to
192.168.3.255, with 192.168.0.0 being your subnet address and
192.168.3.254 being your broadcast address.


Kurt

[1] Too much consumer and other equipment uses those to /24 subnets as
their default, and people don't tend to change them. Thus, using them
is not a good idea, especially if you have people connecting via VPN
to your environment.

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RE: SQL Backup

[Damien Solodow]

Dollars for donuts SQL is compressing the backup. :) That can be done either as 
part of the job or as a server wide default.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.447.6014 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SQL Backup

I'm finding this odd.

I have a SQL 2008R2 Database set for Simple Recovery Model.  The database is 
showing 71GB in size according to the .mdb file.  of that, maybe only 3GB is 
free/unused space.

When running backups of that database from the SQL management studio, the 
backup file, upon completion, is only 23GB or so in size.  (the backups resides 
on a remote server and backup is done via UNC pathing)

I don't understand how that can be correct.  Seems like I'm missing a lot of 
data here in the backup file?

What can I check to verify this?  (please note my DB/SQL skill are not worth a 
darn... so dumb-down any responses requiring things to be checked in SQL, ha)



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RE: SQL Backup

[jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]

Looks like this was due to SQL 2008 R2s ability to do compression for SQL
backups.



Original Message:
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From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:44:15 -0500
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: SQL Backup


I'm finding this odd.

I have a SQL 2008R2 Database set for Simple Recovery Model.  The database
is showing 71GB in size according to the .mdb file.  of that, maybe only
3GB is free/unused space.

When running backups of that database from the SQL management studio, the
backup file, upon completion, is only 23GB or so in size.  (the backups
resides on a remote server and backup is done via UNC pathing)

I don't understand how that can be correct.  Seems like I'm missing a lot
of data here in the backup file?

What can I check to verify this?  (please note my DB/SQL skill are not
worth a darn... so dumb-down any responses requiring things to be checked
in SQL, ha)



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RE: Expaning Subnet again

[Brian Desmond]

> do I really need to count 0 and 1, it was like 40 year ago I took Binary in 
> school.

Your computer still uses it though so it's going to be difficult to properly 
support if you don't know how it works.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

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From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

Just to get things right:
if i go with Subnet: 255.255.252.0 I can then have my range from:
192.168.0.0 -> 192.168.3.255 with
192.168.0.0 = Subnet Address and
192.168.3.255 = Broadcast Address.

And yes I did get the "Advanced Subnet Calculator", do I really need to count 0 
and 1, it was like 40 year ago I took Binary in school.

Anyhow thanks all for your help as usual.
Stefan
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG 
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov>> wrote:
.255 is broadcast

Joe Heaton
ITB - Windows Server Support

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:31 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

Yes I have x.0 and x.256 excluded anyhow, and assume the brodcast is 
192.168.3.256 not 254, right.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Buff 
mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:07, Stefan Jafs 
mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I know we already talked about extending IP's last week, however, I'm trying
> to figure out how to add additional ranges and can't seem to figure it out.
>
> I currently have 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 - 192168.1.256

> with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to
> 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:
>
> 192.168.2.0 - 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 - 192.168.3.256?
Aside from the fact that you should not use 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.1.0
[1], you will at that point have a single subnet of 192.168.0.0 to
192.168.3.255, with 192.168.0.0 being your subnet address and
192.168.3.254 being your broadcast address.


Kurt

[1] Too much consumer and other equipment uses those to /24 subnets as
their default, and people don't tend to change them. Thus, using them
is not a good idea, especially if you have people connecting via VPN
to your environment.

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RE: Adfind & Active Email CSV Dump.

[Michael B. Smith]

Yes, BUT – that makes the filter/query non-portable. ☺

I just copy-n-pasted the query out of a PowerShell window I already had open.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adfind & Active Email CSV Dump.

You can do it a bit easier with the –bit switch:

Adfind –csv –nodn –b “dc=domain,dc=org” –f 
“(&(objectCategory=person)(mail=*)(!userAccountControl:AND:=2))” –bit name mail 
displayName


Thanks,
Brian Desmond
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From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adfind & Active Email CSV Dump.

Adfind –csv –nodn –b “dc=domain,dc=org” –f 
“(&(objectCategory=person)(mail=*)(!userAccountControl:1.2.840.113556.1.4.803:=2))”
 name mail displayName
You won’t be able to copy-n-paste that, but if you type it in, it gives you 
what you want.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Adfind & Active Email CSV Dump.

All --

I could use a hand with generating the output  i need using adfind. I'm trying 
to dump all active e-mail addresses excluding those belonging to Disabled Users 
to a csv file for HR. I'm using the following syntax.

C:\Tools\AdFind>adfind -csv -nodn -b "dc=domain,dc=org" -f "(&(objectCategory=
person)(objectClass=user))" name mail displayName > mailusersjan62012.csv

I suppose i could remove the -nodn and do find/replace within excel, but am 
curious if there was a way to exclude disabled users. I do keep all my disabled 
users in a single OU, so i'm assuming there could be a filter switch i could 
use but am unfamiliar with that syntax as well.

Also, the above dumps name, mail and displayname, but is there to way to only 
output if the the mail field is not null ? Since my objective is to get all 
email addresses, I don't want those users who don't have anything populated in 
the mail field to appear. Again, if i have to manipulate excel, that could work 
but it would sweet if i could accomplish everything with one command.

Regards,

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Re: Expaning Subnet again

[Jonathan Link]

Never forget that there are 10 kinds of people in the world...

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Crawford, Scott wrote:

>  Yup, and yes, you should be very familiar with binary. It’s what
> everything is based on, afterall. J
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 3:33 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Expaning Subnet again
>
> ** **
>
> Just to get things right:
>
> if i go with Subnet: 255.255.252.0 I can then have my range from:
>
> 192.168.0.0 -> 192.168.3.255 with
>
> 192.168.0.0 = Subnet Address and 
>
> 192.168.3.25*5 *= Broadcast Address.
>
>  
>
> And yes I did get the "Advanced Subnet Calculator", do I really need to
> count 0 and 1, it was like 40 year ago I took Binary in school.
>
>  
>
> Anyhow thanks all for your help as usual.
>
> Stefan
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG 
> wrote:
>
> .255 is broadcast
>
>  
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> ITB – Windows Server Support
>
>  
>
> *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 10:31 AM
> *To:* Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: Expaning Subnet again
>
>  
>
> Yes I have x.0 and x.256 excluded anyhow, and assume the brodcast is
> 192.168.3.256 not 254, right.
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:***
> *
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:07, Stefan Jafs  wrote:
> > I know we already talked about extending IP’s last week, however, I’m
> trying
> > to figure out how to add additional ranges and can’t seem to figure it
> out.
> >
>
> > I currently have 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 –
> 192168.1.256
>
>
> > with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to
> > 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:
> >
> > 192.168.2.0 – 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 – 192.168.3.256?
>
> Aside from the fact that you should not use 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.1.0
> [1], you will at that point have a single subnet of 192.168.0.0 to
> 192.168.3.255, with 192.168.0.0 being your subnet address and
> 192.168.3.254 being your broadcast address.
>
>
> Kurt
>
> [1] Too much consumer and other equipment uses those to /24 subnets as
> their default, and people don't tend to change them. Thus, using them
> is not a good idea, especially if you have people connecting via VPN
> to your environment.
>
>
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RE: Expaning Subnet again

[Heaton, Joseph@DFG]

There are 10 types of people, after all.

Joe Heaton
ITB - Windows Server Support

From: Scott Crawford [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:21 PM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Expaning Subnet again

Yup, and yes, you should be very familiar with binary. It's what everything is 
based on, afterall. :)

From: Stefan Jafs 
[mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

Just to get things right:
if i go with Subnet: 255.255.252.0 I can then have my range from:
192.168.0.0 -> 192.168.3.255 with
192.168.0.0 = Subnet Address and
192.168.3.255 = Broadcast Address

And yes I did get the "Advanced Subnet Calculator", do I really need to count 0 
and 1, it was like 40 year ago I took Binary in school.

Anyhow thanks all for your help as usual.
Stefan
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG 
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov>> wrote:
.255 is broadcast

Joe Heaton
ITB - Windows Server Support

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:31 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

Yes I have x.0 and x.256 excluded anyhow, and assume the brodcast is 
192168.3.256 not 254, right.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Buff 
mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:07, Stefan Jafs 
mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I know we already talked about extending IP's last week, however, I'm trying
> to figure out how to add additional ranges and can't seem to figure it out.
>
> I currently have 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 - 192168.1.256

> with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to
> 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:
>
> 192.168.2.0 - 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 - 192.168.3.256?
Aside from the fact that you should not use 192.168.0.0 or 192.1681.0
[1], you will at that point have a single subnet of 192.168.0.0 to
192.168.3.255, with 192.168.0.0 being your subnet address and
192.168.3.254 being your broadcast address.


Kurt

[1] Too much consumer and other equipment uses those to /24 subnets as
their default, and people don't tend to change them. Thus, using them
is not a good idea, especially if you have people connecting via VPN
to your environment.

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Re: OT Gmail rant

[Rene de Haas]

LOL.
Maybe something for April 1st.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Rene de Haas 
> wrote:
> > Why only make it visible when you hove over it??
> > I don't really have a big problem with the new interface, but I don't
> like
> > having to move my mouse everywhere to see if there is maybe an option
> > hidden somewhere.
>
>   Next year, they'll make it so the hidden buttons appear in random
> positions on the screen.
>
> -- Ben
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Re: Expaning Subnet again

[John Cook]

There are only 10 types of people in the world, those that understand binary 
and those that don't!
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families

From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 05:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Expaning Subnet again

Yup, and yes, you should be very familiar with binary. It’s what everything is 
based on, afterall. ☺

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

Just to get things right:
if i go with Subnet: 255.255.252.0 I can then have my range from:
192.168.0.0 -> 192.168.3.255 with
192.168.0.0 = Subnet Address and
192.168.3.255 = Broadcast Address.

And yes I did get the "Advanced Subnet Calculator", do I really need to count 0 
and 1, it was like 40 year ago I took Binary in school.

Anyhow thanks all for your help as usual.
Stefan
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG 
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov>> wrote:
.255 is broadcast

Joe Heaton
ITB – Windows Server Support

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:31 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

Yes I have x.0 and x.256 excluded anyhow, and assume the brodcast is 
192.168.3.256 not 254, right.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Buff 
mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:07, Stefan Jafs 
mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I know we already talked about extending IP’s last week, however, I’m trying
> to figure out how to add additional ranges and can’t seem to figure it out.
>
> I currently have 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 – 192168.1.256

> with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to
> 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:
>
> 192.168.2.0 – 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 – 192.168.3.256?
Aside from the fact that you should not use 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.1.0
[1], you will at that point have a single subnet of 192.168.0.0 to
192.168.3.255, with 192.168.0.0 being your subnet address and
192.168.3.254 being your broadcast address.


Kurt

[1] Too much consumer and other equipment uses those to /24 subnets as
their default, and people don't tend to change them. Thus, using them
is not a good idea, especially if you have people connecting via VPN
to your environment.

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Re: SQL Backup

[Andrew S. Baker]

+1

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On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Damien Solodow
wrote:

> Dollars for donuts SQL is compressing the backup. :) That can be done
> either as part of the job or as a server wide default.
>
> DAMIEN SOLODOW
> Systems Engineer
> 317.447.6033 (office)
> 317.447.6014 (fax)
> HARRISON COLLEGE
>
> -Original Message-
> From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:44 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: SQL Backup
>
> I'm finding this odd.
>
> I have a SQL 2008R2 Database set for Simple Recovery Model.  The database
> is showing 71GB in size according to the .mdb file.  of that, maybe only
> 3GB is free/unused space.
>
> When running backups of that database from the SQL management studio, the
> backup file, upon completion, is only 23GB or so in size.  (the backups
> resides on a remote server and backup is done via UNC pathing)
>
> I don't understand how that can be correct.  Seems like I'm missing a lot
> of data here in the backup file?
>
> What can I check to verify this?  (please note my DB/SQL skill are not
> worth a darn... so dumb-down any responses requiring things to be checked
> in SQL, ha)
>
>
> 
> mail2web.com - What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you?
> http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint
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Re: OT Gmail rant

[Jonathan Link]

Going one better, the UI appears to be applied inconsistently.  In IE 9,
the Gmail icon in the upper left corner of the page is a drop down menu to
the myriad Google services.  And then in Chrome the icon is a link taking
one back to the inbox, as it used to be.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
>  wrote:
> > Its done in exactly the same way that labels (and now Circles) are
> handled.
>
>   Sucks for those, too.
>
> > You dont use these options often, so why have them constantly
> > visible adding to a busy/cluttered interface?
>
>   Because it's a bad way to do a UI.  Seriously, they've done studies.
>  Things that move around on their own are disruptive to both learning
> and use.  UI elements should be fixed in place unless responding to
> explict user "command".
>
>  The "Auto hide taskbar" thing that many people like actually costs
> them time, too.
>
> -- Ben
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RE: Forest trust question

[Brian Desmond]

FQDN here

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

w – 312.625.1438 | c   – 312.731.3132

From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Forest trust question

When creating a forest trust, what domain name is keyed on?  Is it the FQDN, or 
is it the NetBIOS name?

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RE: Forest trust question

[Coleman, Hunter]

FQDN

From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Forest trust question

When creating a forest trust, what domain name is keyed on?  Is it the FQDN, or 
is it the NetBIOS name?

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Re: Expaning Subnet again

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

I was waiting to see if someone would say that :-)

*whew*

--
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On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG 
> wrote:
> > .255 is broadcast
>
>  Not always.
>
> -- Ben
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RE: Expaning Subnet again

[Crawford, Scott]

I've heard that joke 10 times today.

From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Expaning Subnet again

There are 10 types of people, after all.

Joe Heaton
ITB - Windows Server Support

From: Scott Crawford 
[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:21 PM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Expaning Subnet again

Yup, and yes, you should be very familiar with binary. It's what everything is 
based on, afterall. :)

From: Stefan Jafs 
[mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

Just to get things right:
if i go with Subnet: 255.255.252.0 I can then have my range from:
192.168.0.0 -> 192.168.3.255 with
192.168.0.0 = Subnet Address and
192.168.3.255 = Broadcast Address

And yes I did get the "Advanced Subnet Calculator", do I really need to count 0 
and 1, it was like 40 year ago I took Binary in school.

Anyhow thanks all for your help as usual.
Stefan
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG 
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov>> wrote:
.255 is broadcast

Joe Heaton
ITB - Windows Server Support

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:31 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

Yes I have x.0 and x.256 excluded anyhow, and assume the brodcast is 
192168.3.256 not 254, right.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Buff 
mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:07, Stefan Jafs 
mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I know we already talked about extending IP's last week, however, I'm trying
> to figure out how to add additional ranges and can't seem to figure it out.
>
> I currently have 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 - 192168.1.256

> with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to
> 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:
>
> 192.168.2.0 - 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 - 192.168.3.256?
Aside from the fact that you should not use 192.168.0.0 or 192.1681.0
[1], you will at that point have a single subnet of 192.168.0.0 to
192.168.3.255, with 192.168.0.0 being your subnet address and
192.168.3.254 being your broadcast address.


Kurt

[1] Too much consumer and other equipment uses those to /24 subnets as
their default, and people don't tend to change them. Thus, using them
is not a good idea, especially if you have people connecting via VPN
to your environment.

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RE: Expaning Subnet again

[Crawford, Scott]

Now I’ve heard it 11 times ☺

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

There are only 10 types of people in the world, those that understand binary 
and those that don't!
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families

From: Crawford, Scott 
[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 05:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: Expaning Subnet again

Yup, and yes, you should be very familiar with binary. It’s what everything is 
based on, afterall. ☺

From: Stefan Jafs 
[mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

Just to get things right:
if i go with Subnet: 255.255.252.0 I can then have my range from:
192.168.0.0 -> 192.168.3.255 with
192.168.0.0 = Subnet Address and
192.168.3.255 = Broadcast Address.

And yes I did get the "Advanced Subnet Calculator", do I really need to count 0 
and 1, it was like 40 year ago I took Binary in school.

Anyhow thanks all for your help as usual.
Stefan
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG 
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov>> wrote:
.255 is broadcast

Joe Heaton
ITB – Windows Server Support

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:31 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

Yes I have x.0 and x.256 excluded anyhow, and assume the brodcast is 
192.168.3.256 not 254, right.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Buff 
mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:07, Stefan Jafs 
mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I know we already talked about extending IP’s last week, however, I’m trying
> to figure out how to add additional ranges and can’t seem to figure it out.
>
> I currently have 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 – 192168.1.256

> with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to
> 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:
>
> 192.168.2.0 – 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 – 192.168.3.256?
Aside from the fact that you should not use 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.1.0
[1], you will at that point have a single subnet of 192.168.0.0 to
192.168.3.255, with 192.168.0.0 being your subnet address and
192.168.3.254 being your broadcast address.


Kurt

[1] Too much consumer and other equipment uses those to /24 subnets as
their default, and people don't tend to change them. Thus, using them
is not a good idea, especially if you have people connecting via VPN
to your environment.

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Re: Gmail rant

[Jon Harris]

Sounds like what people say about Mircrosoft.  I am with Richard I really
dislike the new format!

Richard look on the right side near or next to your user ID for a round
"gear" it should be the middle item.  I believe they will be turning off
the revert at some future date, I still have mine though.

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Re: Domain Admin accounts

[Kurt Buff]

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:41, David Lum  wrote:
> We have several service accounts that are Domain Admin – is there any way to
> test for what permissions these accounts actually need short of “removing DA
> and see what happens?”. I’m guessing no…

The big question will be exactly what jobs they are performing. You'll
need a complete understanding of what they're used for - or rather,
what you mean by "service account"

Some service accounts are used for running services, and have a very
limited scope that is more or less traceable. Others are, for
instance, used in scheduled tasks, in which case you'll need to
understand what the task does


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RE: Expaning Subnet again

[Heaton, Joseph@DFG]

Very true, if we go and break up a class C, that is absolutely true.  But, 
seeing as he's going the other way, and making the subnet bigger, not smaller...

Joe Heaton
ITB - Windows Server Support


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:25 PM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG  wrote:
> .255 is broadcast

  Not always.

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Re: Expaning Subnet again

[Kurt Buff]

So, that means you'll remember it beyond tonight? :)

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 15:53, Crawford, Scott  wrote:
> Now I’ve heard it 11 times J
>
>
>
> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:59 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again
>
>
>
> There are only 10 types of people in the world, those that understand binary
> and those that don't!
> John W. Cook
> Systems Administrator
> Partnership for Strong Families
>
>
> From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 05:20 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Expaning Subnet again
>
>
> Yup, and yes, you should be very familiar with binary. It’s what everything
> is based on, afterall. J
>
>
>
> From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again
>
>
>
> Just to get things right:
>
> if i go with Subnet: 255.255.252.0 I can then have my range from:
>
> 192.168.0.0 -> 192.168.3.255 with
>
> 192.168.0.0 = Subnet Address and
>
> 192.168.3.255 = Broadcast Address.
>
>
>
> And yes I did get the "Advanced Subnet Calculator", do I really need to
> count 0 and 1, it was like 40 year ago I took Binary in school.
>
>
>
> Anyhow thanks all for your help as usual.
>
> Stefan
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG 
> wrote:
>
> .255 is broadcast
>
>
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> ITB – Windows Server Support
>
>
>
> From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:31 AM
> To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
>
>
> Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again
>
>
>
> Yes I have x.0 and x.256 excluded anyhow, and assume the brodcast is
> 192.168.3.256 not 254, right.
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:07, Stefan Jafs  wrote:
>> I know we already talked about extending IP’s last week, however, I’m
>> trying
>> to figure out how to add additional ranges and can’t seem to figure it
>> out.
>>
>
>> I currently have 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 –
>> 192168.1.256
>
>
>> with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to
>> 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:
>>
>> 192.168.2.0 – 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 – 192.168.3.256?
>
> Aside from the fact that you should not use 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.1.0
> [1], you will at that point have a single subnet of 192.168.0.0 to
> 192.168.3.255, with 192.168.0.0 being your subnet address and
> 192.168.3.254 being your broadcast address.
>
>
> Kurt
>
> [1] Too much consumer and other equipment uses those to /24 subnets as
> their default, and people don't tend to change them. Thus, using them
> is not a good idea, especially if you have people connecting via VPN
> to your environment.
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RE: Expaning Subnet again

[Mathew Shember]

I’ve heard this 100 times.

From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Expaning Subnet again

Now I’ve heard it 11 times ☺

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

There are only 10 types of people in the world, those that understand binary 
and those that don't!
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families

From: Crawford, Scott 
[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 05:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: Expaning Subnet again

Yup, and yes, you should be very familiar with binary. It’s what everything is 
based on, afterall. ☺

From: Stefan Jafs 
[mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

Just to get things right:
if i go with Subnet: 255.255.252.0 I can then have my range from:
192.168.0.0 -> 192.168.3.255 with
192.168.0.0 = Subnet Address and
192.168.3.255 = Broadcast Address.

And yes I did get the "Advanced Subnet Calculator", do I really need to count 0 
and 1, it was like 40 year ago I took Binary in school.

Anyhow thanks all for your help as usual.
Stefan
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG 
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov>> wrote:
.255 is broadcast

Joe Heaton
ITB – Windows Server Support

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:31 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again

Yes I have x.0 and x.256 excluded anyhow, and assume the brodcast is 
192.168.3.256 not 254, right.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Buff 
mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:07, Stefan Jafs 
mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I know we already talked about extending IP’s last week, however, I’m trying
> to figure out how to add additional ranges and can’t seem to figure it out.
>
> I currently have 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 – 192168.1.256

> with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to
> 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:
>
> 192.168.2.0 – 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 – 192.168.3.256?
Aside from the fact that you should not use 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.1.0
[1], you will at that point have a single subnet of 192.168.0.0 to
192.168.3.255, with 192.168.0.0 being your subnet address and
192.168.3.254 being your broadcast address.


Kurt

[1] Too much consumer and other equipment uses those to /24 subnets as
their default, and people don't tend to change them. Thus, using them
is not a good idea, especially if you have people connecting via VPN
to your environment.

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Re: Expaning Subnet again

[Jonathan Link]

If I've heard it 1 time, I've heard it  1100100 times.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Mathew Shember
wrote:

>  I’ve heard this 100 times.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 3:53 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Expaning Subnet again
>
>  ** **
>
> Now I’ve heard it 11 times J
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 4:59 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Expaning Subnet again
>
> ** **
>
> There are only 10 types of people in the world, those that understand
> binary and those that don't!
> John W. Cook
> Systems Administrator
> Partnership for Strong Families
>  
>
> *From*: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
> *Sent*: Monday, January 09, 2012 05:20 PM
> *To*: NT System Admin Issues 
> *Subject*: RE: Expaning Subnet again
>  
>
> Yup, and yes, you should be very familiar with binary. It’s what
> everything is based on, afterall. J
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 3:33 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Expaning Subnet again
>
> ** **
>
> Just to get things right:
>
> if i go with Subnet: 255.255.252.0 I can then have my range from:
>
> 192.168.0.0 -> 192.168.3.255 with
>
> 192.168.0.0 = Subnet Address and 
>
> 192.168.3.25*5 *= Broadcast Address.
>
>  
>
> And yes I did get the "Advanced Subnet Calculator", do I really need to
> count 0 and 1, it was like 40 year ago I took Binary in school.
>
>  
>
> Anyhow thanks all for your help as usual.
>
> Stefan
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG 
> wrote:
>
> .255 is broadcast
>
>  
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> ITB – Windows Server Support
>
>  
>
> *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 10:31 AM
> *To:* Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: Expaning Subnet again
>
>  
>
> Yes I have x.0 and x.256 excluded anyhow, and assume the brodcast is
> 192.168.3.256 not 254, right.
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:***
> *
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:07, Stefan Jafs  wrote:
> > I know we already talked about extending IP’s last week, however, I’m
> trying
> > to figure out how to add additional ranges and can’t seem to figure it
> out.
> >
>
> > I currently have 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 –
> 192168.1.256
>
>
> > with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to
> > 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:
> >
> > 192.168.2.0 – 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 – 192.168.3.256?
>
> Aside from the fact that you should not use 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.1.0
> [1], you will at that point have a single subnet of 192.168.0.0 to
> 192.168.3.255, with 192.168.0.0 being your subnet address and
> 192.168.3.254 being your broadcast address.
>
>
> Kurt
>
> [1] Too much consumer and other equipment uses those to /24 subnets as
> their default, and people don't tend to change them. Thus, using them
> is not a good idea, especially if you have people connecting via VPN
> to your environment.
>
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Re: Expaning Subnet again

[Crawford, Scott]

Maybe if I hear it 100 times.



Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint


On Jan 9, 2012 7:02 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

So, that means you'll remember it beyond tonight? :)

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 15:53, Crawford, Scott  wrote:
> Now I’ve heard it 11 times J
>
>
>
> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:59 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again
>
>
>
> There are only 10 types of people in the world, those that understand binary
> and those that don't!
> John W. Cook
> Systems Administrator
> Partnership for Strong Families
>
>
> From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 05:20 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: Expaning Subnet again
>
>
> Yup, and yes, you should be very familiar with binary. It’s what everything
> is based on, afterall. J
>
>
>
> From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again
>
>
>
> Just to get things right:
>
> if i go with Subnet: 255.255.252.0 I can then have my range from:
>
> 192.168.0.0 -> 192.168.3.255 with
>
> 192.168.0.0 = Subnet Address and
>
> 192.168.3.255 = Broadcast Address.
>
>
>
> And yes I did get the "Advanced Subnet Calculator", do I really need to
> count 0 and 1, it was like 40 year ago I took Binary in school.
>
>
>
> Anyhow thanks all for your help as usual.
>
> Stefan
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG 
> wrote:
>
> .255 is broadcast
>
>
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> ITB – Windows Server Support
>
>
>
> From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:31 AM
> To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
>
>
> Subject: Re: Expaning Subnet again
>
>
>
> Yes I have x.0 and x.256 excluded anyhow, and assume the brodcast is
> 192.168.3.256 not 254, right.
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:07, Stefan Jafs  wrote:
>> I know we already talked about extending IP’s last week, however, I’m
>> trying
>> to figure out how to add additional ranges and can’t seem to figure it
>> out.
>>
>
>> I currently have 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.0.256 and 192.168.1.1 –
>> 192168.1.256
>
>
>> with a subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0. If I change the subnet to
>> 255.255.252.0, can I then simply add:
>>
>> 192.168.2.0 – 192.168.2.256 and 192.168.3.0 – 192.168.3.256?
>
> Aside from the fact that you should not use 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.1.0
> [1], you will at that point have a single subnet of 192.168.0.0 to
> 192.168.3.255, with 192.168.0.0 being your subnet address and
> 192.168.3.254 being your broadcast address.
>
>
> Kurt
>
> [1] Too much consumer and other equipment uses those to /24 subnets as
> their default, and people don't tend to change them. Thus, using them
> is not a good idea, especially if you have people connecting via VPN
> to your environment.
>
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Re: OT Gmail rant

[Ben Scott]

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Jonathan Link  wrote:
> Going one better, the UI appears to be applied inconsistently.  In IE 9, the
> Gmail icon in the upper left corner of the page is a drop down menu to the
> myriad Google services.  And then in Chrome the icon is a link taking one
> back to the inbox, as it used to be.

  That's because today's an odd numbered day.  On even days, they switch.

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Re: Expaning Subnet again

[Ben Scott]

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG  wrote:
>>> .255 is broadcast
>>
>>  Not always.
>
> Very true, if we go and break up a class C, that is absolutely true.  But,
> seeing as he's going the other way, and making the subnet bigger, not 
> smaller...

  ".255" is still not always the broadcast address.  For example, in a
/23, there will be two addresses where the dotted-decimal ends in
".255".  One will be the broadcast address, and the other will just be
a regular host.

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Re: Expaning Subnet again

[Ben Scott]

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Stefan Jafs  wrote:
> do I really need to
> count 0 and 1, it was like 40 year ago I took Binary in school.

  The computer counts in binary.  Whether you want to or not is
irrelevant; that's how it works.  If you refuse to learn how it
works... ~shrug~

  Keep in mind that writing it out in binary doesn't mean you have to
manually convert bases.

http://www.google.com/search?q=192+in+binary

http://www.google.com/search?q=0b10101000+in+decimal

  Understanding the mechanics behind how IP addressing works really
should be considered an essential skill if you're managing IP
networks.  Things will make a lot more sense once you grok it.

  Oh, and you may also find this useful (the table at the top):

http://oav.net/mirrors/cidr.html

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Re: Expaning Subnet again

[Ben Scott]

P.S.:

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:
>  Keep in mind that writing it out in binary doesn't mean you have to
> manually convert bases.

  Or, indeed, that you have to write it.  I mostly use copy-and-paste.  :-)

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A poll, of sorts...

[Kurt Buff]

All,

In the interest of curiosity, I have a theoretical question for your
consideration and debate...

What measures would you need to see in place in a small business
(fewer than 500 users) to feel comfortable with setting a password
policy that sets standard complexity (that is, at least three of the
standard four character types - UC, LC, numeric and special),
miniumum10 characters in length, with no expiration, no history and no
mimimum age?

Assume a Win2k8R2 single domain forest.

Kurt

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Re: A poll, of sorts...

[Jon Harris]

I have done it with under 30 users and some of those temps.  It would
depend on the situation though.  The case I was using was a research
facility where in addition to research there was funding decisions on
inside and outside research going on.  I have seen operations with >100
users only using simple passwords where I would have gone with complex.

Jon

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> All,
>
> In the interest of curiosity, I have a theoretical question for your
> consideration and debate...
>
> What measures would you need to see in place in a small business
> (fewer than 500 users) to feel comfortable with setting a password
> policy that sets standard complexity (that is, at least three of the
> standard four character types - UC, LC, numeric and special),
> miniumum10 characters in length, with no expiration, no history and no
> mimimum age?
>
> Assume a Win2k8R2 single domain forest.
>
> Kurt
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Re: A poll, of sorts...

[Ben Scott]

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
> fewer than 500 users ... password policy ... complexity ...
> miniumum10 characters in length, with no expiration, no
> history and no mimimum age?

  "Insufficient data for a meaningful answer."

  What are the threats you are defending against?  What will this
counter-measure cost you (e.g., forgotten passwords/resets, writing
down of passwords, user hostility, political capital, etc.)?

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Re: A poll, of sorts...

[Kurt Buff]

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 20:46, Ben Scott  wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>> fewer than 500 users ... password policy ... complexity ...
>> miniumum10 characters in length, with no expiration, no
>> history and no mimimum age?
>
>  "Insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
>
>  What are the threats you are defending against?  What will this
> counter-measure cost you (e.g., forgotten passwords/resets, writing
> down of passwords, user hostility, political capital, etc.)?

Assume a user base of mixed sophistication - ranging from software and
hardware engineers to the more normal admin/finance staff. Web site is
3rd party hosted (no e-commerce - quoting and sales done by
phone/email/fax), but a significant fraction of users (say, 10%, more
or less) use an SSL VPN from an appliance that enforces current AV on
home machines.

For the threats - well, the company is connected to the Internet, and
has a decent firewall. Further than that, make up your own threat
scenario.

Assume that forgotten passwords were at most 2/month, that previously
passwords were 8 characters, and changed on a 90-day cycle.

Kurt

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