RE: South Florida position.
Maybe I’m missing something here, but how is this *an added bonus anyhow* ??? “In addition to the duties listed below, candidate will be required to actively market the services offered by the company and accomplish a goal of Two signed maintenance agreements per month.” Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: South Florida position. Your sarcasm does not help your post. Plus, I worked a year in Fort Lauderdale. I am politely refraining from openly talking shit about your company. -- Espi On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:00 PM, gro...@beachcomp.com wrote: Guys, THANK YOU for your input. It REALLY is constructive. And, if you know someone willing to start with low pay and grow (skipping the sales part as it’s an added bonus anyhow), please let us know. From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 5:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: South Florida position. You need to seriously reassess your compensation. Its way out of balance with your expectations. -- Espi On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:42 AM, gro...@beachcomp.com wrote: Folks, I truly hope this is allowed and that I don't upset people by this e-mail. We're looking for some reliable people to start and grow with us. If you know anyone, please forward this to them. Thanks! On-Site Computer Field Technician Tech Support Rep (Hollywood, Aventura, North Miami Beach) Please DO NOT apply for this position if you do not meet all the qualifications listed below. Job Purpose: Candidates will be required to manage and deliver On-Site Over-the-phone services including repairing servers and workstations by utilizing diagnostic and repair techniques, virus/malware removal, data backup, operating system installation, end user software support. Common job tasks also associated with the core job functions are pre post sales and support, help desk and customer support to users by researching and answering questions; resolving problems; providing resources. Candidates will also need to be able to create marketing advertising materials for use by the company. In addition to the duties listed below, candidate will be required to actively market the services offered by the company and accomplish a goal of Two signed maintenance agreements per month. Duties: - Repair workstations while logging repair work orders; responding to requests. - Comply with policies while adhering to requirements; advising management of needed actions. - Update job knowledge by participating in educational opportunities; reading technical publications. - Enhance organization reputation by accepting ownership for accomplishing new and different requests; exploring opportunities to add value to job accomplishments. - Receive materials by inspecting shipped contents against order; verifying receipt; arranging for shipment of missing items; tracking backorders. - Provide answers to clients by identifying problems; researching answers; guiding client through corrective steps. - Improve client references by writing and maintaining documentation. - Participate in development of client training programs by identifying learning issues; recommending instructional language. - Accommodate client disabilities by recommending devices and techniques. - Improve system performance by identifying problems; recommending changes. - Accomplish information systems and organization mission by completing related results as needed. - Develop new concepts/techniques and complete assignments/tasks in innovative and effective ways. - To be considered for this position, you must put resume for job 210222 in the subject line of your e-mail. - Work on assignments that may be extremely complex in nature where a high degree of independent judgment, initiative and technical knowledge is required to resolve problems. - Complete work independently and handle unique situations. - Determine optimal methods and procedures for new assignments. - Answer incoming calls and assist customers with issues. - Remove systems from premises when required and return upon repair while maintaining responsibility. - Participate in local marketing events such as Chamber of Commerce meetings. Skills/Qualifications: - Knowledge of MS products and the ability to verify that the system starts up and works after installation. - Working knowledge of XP, Vista, Win 7, Win 2003, Win 2008 operating systems. - Ability to perform data transfers and setup computers, laptops, printers and other peripherals. - Familiarity with various types of laptops and their peripherals. - Familiarity with networking protocols with troubleshooting skills. - Attention to details and organizational skills. - Ability to communicate verbally and in
RE: South Florida position.
Guessing for the employer.. From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: South Florida position. Maybe I'm missing something here, but how is this *an added bonus anyhow* ??? In addition to the duties listed below, candidate will be required to actively market the services offered by the company and accomplish a goal of Two signed maintenance agreements per month. Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: South Florida position. Your sarcasm does not help your post. Plus, I worked a year in Fort Lauderdale. I am politely refraining from openly talking shit about your company. -- Espi On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:00 PM, gro...@beachcomp.com wrote: Guys, THANK YOU for your input. It REALLY is constructive. And, if you know someone willing to start with low pay and grow (skipping the sales part as it's an added bonus anyhow), please let us know. From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 5:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: South Florida position. You need to seriously reassess your compensation. Its way out of balance with your expectations. -- Espi On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:42 AM, gro...@beachcomp.com wrote: Folks, I truly hope this is allowed and that I don't upset people by this e-mail. We're looking for some reliable people to start and grow with us. If you know anyone, please forward this to them. Thanks! On-Site Computer Field Technician Tech Support Rep (Hollywood, Aventura, North Miami Beach) Please DO NOT apply for this position if you do not meet all the qualifications listed below. Job Purpose: Candidates will be required to manage and deliver On-Site Over-the-phone services including repairing servers and workstations by utilizing diagnostic and repair techniques, virus/malware removal, data backup, operating system installation, end user software support. Common job tasks also associated with the core job functions are pre post sales and support, help desk and customer support to users by researching and answering questions; resolving problems; providing resources. Candidates will also need to be able to create marketing advertising materials for use by the company. In addition to the duties listed below, candidate will be required to actively market the services offered by the company and accomplish a goal of Two signed maintenance agreements per month. Duties: - Repair workstations while logging repair work orders; responding to requests. - Comply with policies while adhering to requirements; advising management of needed actions. - Update job knowledge by participating in educational opportunities; reading technical publications. - Enhance organization reputation by accepting ownership for accomplishing new and different requests; exploring opportunities to add value to job accomplishments. - Receive materials by inspecting shipped contents against order; verifying receipt; arranging for shipment of missing items; tracking backorders. - Provide answers to clients by identifying problems; researching answers; guiding client through corrective steps. - Improve client references by writing and maintaining documentation. - Participate in development of client training programs by identifying learning issues; recommending instructional language. - Accommodate client disabilities by recommending devices and techniques. - Improve system performance by identifying problems; recommending changes. - Accomplish information systems and organization mission by completing related results as needed. - Develop new concepts/techniques and complete assignments/tasks in innovative and effective ways. - To be considered for this position, you must put resume for job 210222 in the subject line of your e-mail. - Work on assignments that may be extremely complex in nature where a high degree of independent judgment, initiative and technical knowledge is required to resolve problems. - Complete work independently and handle unique situations. - Determine optimal methods and procedures for new assignments. - Answer incoming calls and assist customers with issues. - Remove systems from premises when required and return upon repair while maintaining responsibility. - Participate in local marketing events such as Chamber of Commerce meetings. Skills/Qualifications: - Knowledge of MS products and the ability to verify that the system starts up and works after installation. - Working knowledge of XP, Vista, Win 7, Win 2003, Win 2008 operating systems. - Ability to perform data transfers and setup computers, laptops, printers and other peripherals. - Familiarity with various types of laptops
RE: OT - ugh!
I am sympathetic to the company doing the interview here. If you've been in one place for 15 years straight doing internal IT, you are unlikely to have much in the way of diversified experience. Every time you work with a new customer or take a new position at a new company, you're going to see new ways to do things. Some will be better, some will be worse, but, you'll see them, and even more so, you'll be exposed to the goods/bads. Some large companies have expectations that you'll move around internally every few years to change things up and when people don't, they have a way of not making it in review cycles. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Jacob Kisner [mailto:jbdkis...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! Because we feel you are not diversified enough to address our issues. Same issues I have addressed over the years poor issue management, no project management, no documentation, crashing servers, IT staff treating the network like a high school lab.. etc. Not only can I stop the bleeding and stabilize the patient (gave then how I would do it), I can implement a more proactive approach to IT management and stop the fires (also gave details.) I guess they rather have the fires... On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com wrote: That makes no sense - why do they care where you were for 15 years...Sorry to hear that Jacob. I just started a new position - temp for 9 months, nice place - nice people so far. I'm getting into MAC/Linux support so it's a stretch for me (windows background), but it's a job and a chance to learn. Good luck! Don K From: Jacob Kisner jbdkis...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:19 PM Subject: OT - ugh! Nothing sucks more than being interviewed for a position at a different company last Tuesday, then being called Thursday to say we are going to offer you a position and finally being told today that we changed our mind... We did not realize you were with the same company for 15 years... WTF? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT - ugh!
When I look at a resume, I’m perfectly fine with job-hopping so to speak. The red flag for me is when it’s patterned and usually in the every 12-18 months range. I’ve never seen a hire go well when someone had that history and insisted in interviews that they were looking to stay/settle down/whatever the reason. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 8:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - ugh! Well, I’m all confused. I keep hearing that employers are looking for loyalty, and that job-hoppers make hiring managers nervous. Darned if you do, darned if you don’t. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Robert Cato [mailto:cato.rob...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:cato.rob...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! I do not agree with the mentality, but I have heard the argument: If they were any good, they would be changing jobs every 2-5 years to expand their skills. Depending on the environment, most companies change (refresh technology) every 2-5 years so that would force some expansion of skills. Another scenario is that you started in one role and changed your role, probably more than once in that 15 years. Sorry for the bad news, hopefully you will find something. Robert On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Jacob Kisner jbdkis...@gmail.commailto:jbdkis...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing sucks more than being interviewed for a position at a different company last Tuesday, then being called Thursday to say we are going to offer you a position and finally being told today that we changed our mind... We did not realize you were with the same company for 15 years... WTF? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT - ugh!
That's how I write reqs. I don't really care whether or not you have a degree if you can show me you know how to think critically about stuff and have the work ethic to get things done. A degree will generally demonstrate these skills to the extent you needed them to get the degree, but, it doesn't really mean to me that you know anything practical. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - ugh! In my org there are certainly positions that not having a degree would exclude you for being considered, but many IT of our positions like mine (well, this is the Sr SE that I have not achieved yet) have this: Minimum bachelor's degree in related field; equivalent combinations of education and experience will be considered in lieu of a degree. (I have no degree but have been doing IT admin stuff as my %dayjob% since 1995) Minimum 6 years related experience, with at least 4 years experience in one of the two following areas: A. Microsoft OS and systems B. Cisco networking Fortunately the equivalent combinations of education and experience helps. Dave -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 6:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - ugh! Many positions in many companies have degree requirements, whether actually reasonable or not. Some companies (I am thinking specifically of BASF) even do salary banding based on highest-degree-obtained. Sent from my HTC Tilt(tm) 2, a Windows(r) phone from ATT -Original Message- From: David Lum david@nwea.org Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: OT - ugh! This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click. Wow. I can see the college degree being a tiebreaker, but I can only guess the person making that statement doesn't fully understand the tech industry? Or, maybe not having gone to college myself I don't understand that thinking. It could have also been their way of backing out, instead of saying we changed our minds on our needs or we hired from inside. I've heard of that kind of thing before - where what the person not getting hired wasn't told what was really happening. Dave -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - ugh! Last year I was in the final interview for a Citrix Architect position for a very large company in Nashville. IIRC, it was like interview #6 or 7 in the process. I had been talking with the executive for over 45 minutes when all of a sudden he says Oh, I'm sorry I didn't realize you had no college degree. This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click. I then took MBS' advice and went solo. I say screw FTE! :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com -Original Message- From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! Assuming they're being honest, it tells me that they are not very strong in background checking. How could they have missed the fact that you've been with one company for more than 10 years. I've NEVER ever heard of a company offering a job and then withdrawing the offer, period, much less before total background check. I believe that I can fully understand the idea of wanting IT staff that has a varied background which would include more than one job over a decade. I think you are fortunate that you didn't take the job because it sounds to me that the organization isn't of the highest quality, if you catch my drift. Sometimes things happen for the best in spite of your best efforts. They didn't vet you, but how well did you vet them! It's also obvious that they don't recognize talent when they see it! Murray -Original Message- From: James Hill Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - ugh! I feel for you. But try and look at this way. If they can't see the value you can offer now then it would only be a continual uphill fight if you were employed by them. You are better off with an employer that shares your values. -Original Message- From: Jacob Kisner [mailto:jbdkis...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2012 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! Because we feel you are not diversified enough to address our issues. Same issues I have addressed over the years poor issue management, no project management, no documentation, crashing servers, IT staff treating the network like a high school lab.. etc. Not only can I stop the
RE: OT - ugh!
OK And they notice that at the very end. Apparently some people weren't up to.the job of reading his resume. Op 5 feb. 2012 02:02 schreef Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com het volgende: I am sympathetic to the company doing the interview here. If you've been in one place for 15 years straight doing internal IT, you are unlikely to have much in the way of diversified experience. Every time you work with a new customer or take a new position at a new company, you're going to see new ways to do things. Some will be better, some will be worse, but, you'll see them, and even more so, you'll be exposed to the goods/bads. Some large companies have expectations that you'll move around internally every few years to change things up and when people don't, they have a way of not making it in review cycles. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Jacob Kisner [mailto:jbdkis...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! Because we feel you are not diversified enough to address our issues. Same issues I have addressed over the years poor issue management, no project management, no documentation, crashing servers, IT staff treating the network like a high school lab.. etc. Not only can I stop the bleeding and stabilize the patient (gave then how I would do it), I can implement a more proactive approach to IT management and stop the fires (also gave details.) I guess they rather have the fires... On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com wrote: That makes no sense - why do they care where you were for 15 years...Sorry to hear that Jacob. I just started a new position - temp for 9 months, nice place - nice people so far. I'm getting into MAC/Linux support so it's a stretch for me (windows background), but it's a job and a chance to learn. Good luck! Don K From: Jacob Kisner jbdkis...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:19 PM Subject: OT - ugh! Nothing sucks more than being interviewed for a position at a different company last Tuesday, then being called Thursday to say we are going to offer you a position and finally being told today that we changed our mind... We did not realize you were with the same company for 15 years... WTF? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT - ugh!
Convince Corporate American HR that's the best way to handle it. Because I have no college degree I can't even get an interview for jobs I'm more than technically qualified to handle. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families - Original Message - From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 08:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: OT - ugh! That's how I write reqs. I don't really care whether or not you have a degree if you can show me you know how to think critically about stuff and have the work ethic to get things done. A degree will generally demonstrate these skills to the extent you needed them to get the degree, but, it doesn't really mean to me that you know anything practical. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - ugh! In my org there are certainly positions that not having a degree would exclude you for being considered, but many IT of our positions like mine (well, this is the Sr SE that I have not achieved yet) have this: Minimum bachelor's degree in related field; equivalent combinations of education and experience will be considered in lieu of a degree. (I have no degree but have been doing IT admin stuff as my %dayjob% since 1995) Minimum 6 years related experience, with at least 4 years experience in one of the two following areas: A. Microsoft OS and systems B. Cisco networking Fortunately the equivalent combinations of education and experience helps. Dave -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 6:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - ugh! Many positions in many companies have degree requirements, whether actually reasonable or not. Some companies (I am thinking specifically of BASF) even do salary banding based on highest-degree-obtained. Sent from my HTC Tilt(tm) 2, a Windows(r) phone from ATT -Original Message- From: David Lum david@nwea.org Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: OT - ugh! This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click. Wow. I can see the college degree being a tiebreaker, but I can only guess the person making that statement doesn't fully understand the tech industry? Or, maybe not having gone to college myself I don't understand that thinking. It could have also been their way of backing out, instead of saying we changed our minds on our needs or we hired from inside. I've heard of that kind of thing before - where what the person not getting hired wasn't told what was really happening. Dave -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - ugh! Last year I was in the final interview for a Citrix Architect position for a very large company in Nashville. IIRC, it was like interview #6 or 7 in the process. I had been talking with the executive for over 45 minutes when all of a sudden he says Oh, I'm sorry I didn't realize you had no college degree. This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click. I then took MBS' advice and went solo. I say screw FTE! :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com -Original Message- From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! Assuming they're being honest, it tells me that they are not very strong in background checking. How could they have missed the fact that you've been with one company for more than 10 years. I've NEVER ever heard of a company offering a job and then withdrawing the offer, period, much less before total background check. I believe that I can fully understand the idea of wanting IT staff that has a varied background which would include more than one job over a decade. I think you are fortunate that you didn't take the job because it sounds to me that the organization isn't of the highest quality, if you catch my drift. Sometimes things happen for the best in spite of your best efforts. They didn't vet you, but how well did you vet them! It's also obvious that they don't recognize talent when they see it! Murray -Original Message- From: James Hill Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - ugh! I feel for you. But try and look at this way. If they can't see the value you can offer now then it would only be a continual uphill fight if you were employed by them. You are better off with an employer that shares your values. -Original
RE: OT - ugh!
Apparently you wouldn't HAVE to get a degree to work at Microsoft or Facebook. Well...at least not to be CEO of either... Ben M. Schorr Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com | www.officeforlawyers.com | Twitter: @bschorr -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:30 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - ugh! This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click. Wow. I can see the college degree being a tiebreaker, but I can only guess the person making that statement doesn't fully understand the tech industry? Or, maybe not having gone to college myself I don't understand that thinking. It could have also been their way of backing out, instead of saying we changed our minds on our needs or we hired from inside. I've heard of that kind of thing before - where what the person not getting hired wasn't told what was really happening. Dave -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - ugh! Last year I was in the final interview for a Citrix Architect position for a very large company in Nashville. IIRC, it was like interview #6 or 7 in the process. I had been talking with the executive for over 45 minutes when all of a sudden he says Oh, I'm sorry I didn't realize you had no college degree. This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click. I then took MBS' advice and went solo. I say screw FTE! :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com -Original Message- From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! Assuming they're being honest, it tells me that they are not very strong in background checking. How could they have missed the fact that you've been with one company for more than 10 years. I've NEVER ever heard of a company offering a job and then withdrawing the offer, period, much less before total background check. I believe that I can fully understand the idea of wanting IT staff that has a varied background which would include more than one job over a decade. I think you are fortunate that you didn't take the job because it sounds to me that the organization isn't of the highest quality, if you catch my drift. Sometimes things happen for the best in spite of your best efforts. They didn't vet you, but how well did you vet them! It's also obvious that they don't recognize talent when they see it! Murray -Original Message- From: James Hill Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - ugh! I feel for you. But try and look at this way. If they can't see the value you can offer now then it would only be a continual uphill fight if you were employed by them. You are better off with an employer that shares your values. -Original Message- From: Jacob Kisner [mailto:jbdkis...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2012 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! Because we feel you are not diversified enough to address our issues. Same issues I have addressed over the years poor issue management, no project management, no documentation, crashing servers, IT staff treating the network like a high school lab.. etc. Not only can I stop the bleeding and stabilize the patient (gave then how I would do it), I can implement a more proactive approach to IT management and stop the fires (also gave details.) I guess they rather have the fires... On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com wrote: That makes no sense - why do they care where you were for 15 years...Sorry to hear that Jacob. I just started a new position - temp for 9 months, nice place - nice people so far. I'm getting into MAC/Linux support so it's a stretch for me (windows background), but it's a job and a chance to learn. Good luck! Don K From: Jacob Kisner jbdkis...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:19 PM Subject: OT - ugh! Nothing sucks more than being interviewed for a position at a different company last Tuesday, then being called Thursday to say we are going to offer you a position and finally being told today that we changed our mind... We did not realize you were with the same company for 15 years... WTF? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that
RE: ASUS laptops/notepbooks
For running VMs I went the opposite route - Sony Z (previously a Z1, now a Z2). 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD (internal), 1920x1080 screen, Core i7, 13, weighs about 1.2kg. Unbelievable piece of kit. I added an extra 512GB SSD (connected via USB3), so I have plenty of storage for VMs now. 128GB SD card holds installation ISOs Cheers Ken From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Friday, 3 February 2012 11:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ASUS laptops/notepbooks This doesn't apply to your situation, but I just bought a monster ASUS laptop to take with me on the road. I am on the road the next 2 months and possibly until July. I needed something so I could continue my writing while traveling. Core i7 quad-core w/HT, 17.3 screen, 16GB RAM and 2 500GB HDs - will run 5 VMs very well. It may run more but I only have 5 right now. This is my last day at current customer before I hit the road for 2 months and maybe 6 months. The guys here are really liking the laptop. I am sure my chiropractor will too as the monster weighs 10 lbs! Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org Reply-To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 08:50:44 -0500 To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: ASUS laptops/notepbooks Anyone using these in the enterprise? We currently use Dell or Lenovo laptops. Some of the ASUS models look very light, which would be good for our nomadic staff. Just wondering on long term durability, ability to image. Comments appreciated. Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: ASUS laptops/notepbooks
128 GB SD. I didn't even know that those exist... A little checking shows that they're actually not crazy expensive, if you actually have a use case that demands one. http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-Media-Flash-Memory-LSD128CRBNA133/dp/B004SAMZW4 If you don't mind me asking, what USB3 enclosure are you using for the 512 GB SSD? On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: For running VMs I went the opposite route – Sony Z (previously a Z1, now a Z2). 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD (internal), 1920x1080 screen, Core i7, 13”, weighs about 1.2kg. Unbelievable piece of kit. I added an extra 512GB SSD (connected via USB3), so I have plenty of storage for VMs now. 128GB SD card holds installation ISOs Cheers Ken ** ** *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] *Sent:* Friday, 3 February 2012 11:47 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: ASUS laptops/notepbooks ** ** This doesn't apply to your situation, but I just bought a monster ASUS laptop to take with me on the road. I am on the road the next 2 months and possibly until July. I needed something so I could continue my writing while traveling. Core i7 quad-core w/HT, 17.3 screen, 16GB RAM and 2 500GB HDs – will run 5 VMs very well. It may run more but I only have 5 right now. ** ** This is my last day at current customer before I hit the road for 2 months and maybe 6 months. The guys here are really liking the laptop. I am sure my chiropractor will too as the monster weighs 10 lbs! ** ** ** ** Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ ** ** *From: *Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org *Reply-To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Date: *Fri, 3 Feb 2012 08:50:44 -0500 *To: *NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *ASUS laptops/notepbooks ** ** Anyone using these in the enterprise? We currently use Dell or Lenovo laptops. Some of the ASUS models look very light, which would be good for our nomadic staff. Just wondering on long term durability, ability to image. Comments appreciated. Tom ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
