RE: SSL and the new no internal names ruling

2012-12-10 Thread Tobie Fysh
I thought the way to do it for Exchange was to use split brain DNS so you use 
the same external domain name but pointing to internal IP's when internal?

From: Rick Berry [mailto:rbe...@elevativenetworks.com]
Sent: 10 December 2012 15:13
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SSL and the new no internal names ruling

Presuming this has been discussed a bit ... but ran into it personally for the 
first time today, when a customer asked me to renew an Exchange certificate and 
sent me their CSR with a NetBIOS name in it ... it tripped the November 2015 
rule on me for the first time as I was trying to renew something with an 
internal name past that implementation date of 11.1.2015 ...

Via Digicert, although we all have the issue on any given SSL provider 
including Simon's @ (shameless plug) 
www.certificatesforexchange.comhttp://www.certificatesforexchange.com ...

What concerned me was Digicert's page about 'what to do', which basically takes 
one down the path of 'rendom' or directory migration just to do a name change 
in the event you made your forest '.local' or similar ...

http://www.digicert.com/ssl-support/reconfigure-internal-dns-names-iis-7.htm

Curious how people are approaching this.  I'm loathe to rename domains, and not 
looking forward to hearing back from all the people I've told over the years to 
make sure that they name their internal domains '.local'.

Rick



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Re: Detecting standard desktops

2012-12-10 Thread Andrew S. Baker
LOL





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On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

 A C is the highest grade I can give you for your joking around. :)
  You deserve an F#.

 Thanks


 Webster

 -Original Message-
 From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
 Subject: RE: Detecting standard desktops

 What is a C? ( joking)

 Z

 Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan
 Organization ezi...@lifespan.org


 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
 Subject: RE: Detecting standard desktops

  From an old C programmer, I love to dish out *pointers; :)

 *groan*

 Sm:)e.


 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District


 - Original Message -
 From: Webster
 [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
 Sent: Wed, 05 Dec 2012
 10:36:33 -0800
 Subject: RE: Detecting standard desktops


  From an old C programmer, I love to dish out *pointers; :)


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RE: Detecting standard desktops

2012-12-10 Thread Daniel Rodriguez
Ypu would have a SNOBOL of a chance. But Ada would be glad to help. ;)

Daniel Rodriguez
drod...@gmail.com
On Dec 5, 2012 3:03 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote:

 Just think how hard that sentence would have been to say if you had a
 lisp

 -Original Message-
 From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:45 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Detecting standard desktops

 With a little BASIC effort I might have been ABLE to put forth the
 effort to give you a C++.  But don't go and bash me about this decision.
  Just go drink a cola, cool off and have some curry with your lunch.
  Of course, you could consult with the Delphi and C what she says.

 Thanks


 Webster


 -Original Message-
 From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
 Subject: RE: Detecting standard desktops

 Yep can't I get a C++ for extra effort?

 Z

 Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan
 Organization ezi...@lifespan.org


 -Original Message-
 From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
 Subject: RE: Detecting standard desktops

 A C is the highest grade I can give you for your joking around. :) You
 deserve an F#.


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Re: SSL and the new no internal names ruling

2012-12-10 Thread Steve Kradel
Well, this is certainly a terrible article from Digicert.  Rename or
migrate your domain in order to get certs that match your AD FQDN?
Links to ADMT??  Utter madness.  Just use an internal CA for an
intranet site, as nobody else will be able to resolve those names
anyhow.  Buy certs from a public CA for external-facing boxes and
don't even worry about the internal name, it doesn't matter.

As for the advice of using the AD domain name foo.com for your
business that receives mail as u...@foo.com and has a website at
foo.com, this is awful advice too and causes tons of DNS headaches.
Do not do this.

--Steve

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Rick Berry
rbe...@elevativenetworks.com wrote:
 Presuming this has been discussed a bit … but ran into it personally for the
 first time today, when a customer asked me to renew an Exchange certificate
 and sent me their CSR with a NetBIOS name in it … it tripped the “November
 2015” rule on me for the first time as I was trying to renew something with
 an internal name past that implementation date of 11.1.2015 …



 Via Digicert, although we all have the issue on any given SSL provider
 including Simon’s @ (shameless plug) www.certificatesforexchange.com …



 What concerned me was Digicert’s page about ‘what to do’, which basically
 takes one down the path of ‘rendom’ or directory migration just to do a name
 change in the event you made your forest ‘.local’ or similar …



 http://www.digicert.com/ssl-support/reconfigure-internal-dns-names-iis-7.htm



 Curious how people are approaching this.  I’m loathe to rename domains, and
 not looking forward to hearing back from all the people I’ve told over the
 years to make sure that they name their internal domains ‘.local’.



 Rick



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RE: Mobile app for password management

2012-12-10 Thread Sam Cayze
Not sure if anyone pointed it out.
I do love LastPass, but their Android App is not free.  But you can still
use the mobile web interface for free.


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RE: SSL and the new no internal names ruling

2012-12-10 Thread Brian Desmond
I reached out to DigiCert about this. 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132

-Original Message-
From: Steve Kradel [mailto:skra...@zetetic.net] 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 11:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SSL and the new no internal names ruling

Well, this is certainly a terrible article from Digicert.  Rename or migrate 
your domain in order to get certs that match your AD FQDN?
Links to ADMT??  Utter madness.  Just use an internal CA for an intranet site, 
as nobody else will be able to resolve those names anyhow.  Buy certs from a 
public CA for external-facing boxes and don't even worry about the internal 
name, it doesn't matter.

As for the advice of using the AD domain name foo.com for your business that 
receives mail as u...@foo.com and has a website at foo.com, this is awful 
advice too and causes tons of DNS headaches.
Do not do this.

--Steve

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Rick Berry rbe...@elevativenetworks.com 
wrote:
 Presuming this has been discussed a bit ... but ran into it personally 
 for the first time today, when a customer asked me to renew an 
 Exchange certificate and sent me their CSR with a NetBIOS name in it ... 
 it tripped the November 2015 rule on me for the first time as I was 
 trying to renew something with an internal name past that 
 implementation date of 11.1.2015 ...



 Via Digicert, although we all have the issue on any given SSL provider 
 including Simon's @ (shameless plug) www.certificatesforexchange.com ...



 What concerned me was Digicert's page about 'what to do', which 
 basically takes one down the path of 'rendom' or directory migration 
 just to do a name change in the event you made your forest '.local' or 
 similar ...



 http://www.digicert.com/ssl-support/reconfigure-internal-dns-names-iis
 -7.htm



 Curious how people are approaching this.  I'm loathe to rename 
 domains, and not looking forward to hearing back from all the people 
 I've told over the years to make sure that they name their internal domains 
 '.local'.



 Rick



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RE: SSL and the new no internal names ruling

2012-12-10 Thread Michael B. Smith
HAHAHAHAHAHA.

So did I. :)

-Original Message-
From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL and the new no internal names ruling

I reached out to DigiCert about this. 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132

-Original Message-
From: Steve Kradel [mailto:skra...@zetetic.net]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 11:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SSL and the new no internal names ruling

Well, this is certainly a terrible article from Digicert.  Rename or migrate 
your domain in order to get certs that match your AD FQDN?
Links to ADMT??  Utter madness.  Just use an internal CA for an intranet site, 
as nobody else will be able to resolve those names anyhow.  Buy certs from a 
public CA for external-facing boxes and don't even worry about the internal 
name, it doesn't matter.

As for the advice of using the AD domain name foo.com for your business that 
receives mail as u...@foo.com and has a website at foo.com, this is awful 
advice too and causes tons of DNS headaches.
Do not do this.

--Steve

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Rick Berry rbe...@elevativenetworks.com 
wrote:
 Presuming this has been discussed a bit ... but ran into it personally 
 for the first time today, when a customer asked me to renew an 
 Exchange certificate and sent me their CSR with a NetBIOS name in it ...
 it tripped the November 2015 rule on me for the first time as I was 
 trying to renew something with an internal name past that 
 implementation date of 11.1.2015 ...



 Via Digicert, although we all have the issue on any given SSL provider 
 including Simon's @ (shameless plug) www.certificatesforexchange.com ...



 What concerned me was Digicert's page about 'what to do', which 
 basically takes one down the path of 'rendom' or directory migration 
 just to do a name change in the event you made your forest '.local' or 
 similar ...



 http://www.digicert.com/ssl-support/reconfigure-internal-dns-names-iis
 -7.htm



 Curious how people are approaching this.  I'm loathe to rename 
 domains, and not looking forward to hearing back from all the people 
 I've told over the years to make sure that they name their internal domains 
 '.local'.



 Rick



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Re: All your passwords are belong to us

2012-12-10 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Kennedy, Jim
kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote:
 http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/12/25-gpu-cluster-cracks-every-standard-windows-password-in-6-hours/

 I’ve seen bigger made out of PS3’s.

  I think the point of the article is that it's *small*.  :-)

-- Ben

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Re: I hate newegg...

2012-12-10 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:47 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:
 Seems every time I buy something they give me coupon code to suck me into
 buying some related and irresistible item that I seem to think I really
 want.

 David Lum
 Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
 Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

Cry me a river, young 'un.

Do you pull stuff off the endcaps and from the bins at the checkout in
your grocery store, too?

Seems to me your mental muscles need some work.

Kurt

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Re: I hate newegg...

2012-12-10 Thread Matthew W. Ross
I love Newegg...

I can window shop _all_ _day_ _long_ if I want to.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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From: Kurt Buff
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To: NT System Admin Issues
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Sent: Mon, 10 Dec 2012
13:54:42 -0800
Subject: Re: I hate newegg...


 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:47 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:
  Seems every time I buy something they give me coupon code to suck me into
  buying some related and irresistible item that I seem to think I really
  want.
 
  David Lum
  Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
  Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764
 
 Cry me a river, young 'un.
 
 Do you pull stuff off the endcaps and from the bins at the checkout in
 your grocery store, too?
 
 Seems to me your mental muscles need some work.
 
 Kurt
 
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Re: I hate newegg...

2012-12-10 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 4:47 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:
 Seems every time I buy something they give me coupon code to suck me into
 buying some related and irresistible item that I seem to think I really
 want.

  Apparently, they're right.

-- Ben

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R: (SCL: -1) All your passwords are belong to us

2012-12-10 Thread HELP_PC
They are talking about 8 chars pwd
I use 12+ chars (Aa+numbers+special chars ) since many years

Guido Elia
HELPPC - HELPPC SERVICE

Da: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Inviato: lunedì 10 dicembre 2012 19.55
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: (SCL: -1) All your passwords are belong to us

I don't know if you have seen this:

http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/12/25-gpu-cluster-cracks-every-standard-windows-password-in-6-hours/


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R: (SCL: -1) Re: (SCL: -1) All your passwords are belong to us

2012-12-10 Thread HELP_PC
If I am not wrong they are referring to every combination of 8 chars

Guido Elia
HELPPC - HELPPC SERVICE

Da: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Inviato: martedì 11 dicembre 2012 7.40
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: (SCL: -1) Re: (SCL: -1) All your passwords are belong to us

8 characters not including common names/words?

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 1:34 AM, HELP_PC g...@enter.itmailto:g...@enter.it 
wrote:
They are talking about 8 chars pwd
I use 12+ chars (Aa+numbers+special chars ) since many years

Guido Elia
HELPPC - HELPPC SERVICE

Da: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.commailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Inviato: lunedì 10 dicembre 2012 19.55
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: (SCL: -1) All your passwords are belong to us

I don't know if you have seen this:

http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/12/25-gpu-cluster-cracks-every-standard-windows-password-in-6-hours/


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