RE: Workstation Naming Standards
We are a puny 150 PC house so we do use usernames in the PC name for ease in remote control. We rebuild each PC when an employee leaves or annually to keep the PC's clean. -Original Message- From: David James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Workstation Naming Standards I don't use user names. What happens when that employee quits? You have to rename their machine as part of setting up a new user? I would use City_Dept_JobFunction then add a number for multiple job functions. DJ -Original Message- From: Osama S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Workstation Naming Standards hi, we will be deploying Win2K from scratch on the user's machines (around 700) replacing NT 4. SO I was reviewing our machine naming convention. Our Offices are located in two cities, one single domain. So far we would use something like CityName-Department-User Real Name (where city name and department are abbrevations) to name workstations. Usually the NT Names are the users Company ID, which is unique. I was wondering how you guys/girls are naming your workstations and users. regards Uso Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/
RE: hfnetchk
Hope you bought it at http://www.sunbelt-software.com/product.cfm?id=357 to support this list's sponsor. -Original Message- From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 10:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: hfnetchk I am buying a 150 client license today. YA My boss rules... Mark Kelsay Network Systems Manager Switchboard, Inc. 508.898.8085 -Original Message- From: Chris Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 6:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: hfnetchk update expert is a super cool tool, but mucho$$ (about a grand for 40 client/server license) Chris Kim IT Engineer The Igneous Group, Inc. 541 Seabright Ave. Santa Cruz, CA 95062 1-831-469-7625 X217 Voice 1-831-460-3979 FAX 1-831-234-8059 Cell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.igneous.com/ Rock Solid Web Sites -Original Message- From: Bob Barnhill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: hfnetchk Try Update Expert (www.stbernard.com) From: Don Collier (Intermap Denver) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: hfnetchk Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 15:02:39 -0400 So I ran this cool program, that someone on this list mentioned, and got this list of patches that I need to install. Thankfully not very many at all. I know where to go to get the patches individually, but is there a place to get several of the patches at one time. I also ran that program on other machines and need to get patches for them as well. _ Don Collier Network Administrator Intermap Technologies Inc. Voice: 303-708-0955 x-207 Fax:303-708-0952 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.intermaptechnologies.com Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/
RE: What version of IE? How to tell
Use IEAK to remove Windows Update. We check the registry with kixtart: Dim $IEVersion $IEVersion = GetFileVersion(C:\Progra~1\Intern~1\iexplore.exe) If $IEVersion = 5.51.4807.2300 Goto script Else Use Y: \\nhilmgt01\installs Run Y:\IE5\InstallIE.BAT Goto exit End if -Original Message- From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: What version of IE? How to tell If the security patch to be applied is dependent o what SP level your IE is at, is there a way in the batch file to determine it and apply the proper patch? How are others handling this in 500-700 machine organizations? The version would be the same when the machines are rolled out, but some users do have a habit of actually updating the systems from windowsupdate. Steve Kelsay Network Administration Group South Carolina Department of Revenue 301 Gervais Street Columbia, SC 29201 (803) 898-5522 Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/
Aggregating Intel Pro 100 cards
Has anyone installed and aggregated multiple Intel Pro 100 cards on a W2K Server? (Dell Poweredge 4400) Charles R. Dewar Systems Administrator North Hills Hospital Phone: 817.255.1777 Toll-free Fax: 866.947.3756 Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/
RE: What version of IE? How to tell
I prefer to just insall IE in the default directory so I don't have to get complicated. -Original Message- From: xylog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What version of IE? How to tell This assumes that the iexpore file is in specific location. I like check the registry : ... reg query HKLM\Software\Microsoft\internet explorer\version |findstr /i /c:5.00. nul if not errorlevel 1 goto :up501 reg query HKLM\Software\Microsoft\internet explorer\version |findstr /i /c:5.50. nul if not errorlevel 1 goto :up550 ... xylog -Original Message- From: Dewar Charles R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 1:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What version of IE? How to tell Use IEAK to remove Windows Update. We check the registry with kixtart: Dim $IEVersion $IEVersion = GetFileVersion(C:\Progra~1\Intern~1\iexplore.exe) If $IEVersion = 5.51.4807.2300 Goto script Else Use Y: \\nhilmgt01\installs Run Y:\IE5\InstallIE.BAT Goto exit End if -Original Message- From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: What version of IE? How to tell If the security patch to be applied is dependent o what SP level your IE is at, is there a way in the batch file to determine it and apply the proper patch? How are others handling this in 500-700 machine organizations? The version would be the same when the machines are rolled out, but some users do have a habit of actually updating the systems from windowsupdate. Steve Kelsay Network Administration Group South Carolina Department of Revenue 301 Gervais Street Columbia, SC 29201 (803) 898-5522 Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/
RE: Aggregating Intel Pro 100 cards
I loaded the latest ones from Intel. Any caveats? Currently this will only be for outbound connections as I'm pretty sure 3COM SuperStack II 3000's don't support port aggregation. We are moving to Cisco so if anyone has a recommendation for a Cisco switch that does this I would appreciate it. -Original Message- From: xylog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 1:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Aggregating Intel Pro 100 cards Yes but you need the latest updated drivers not the ones that ship with Win2k. xylog -Original Message- From: Dewar Charles R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 1:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Aggregating Intel Pro 100 cards Has anyone installed and aggregated multiple Intel Pro 100 cards on a W2K Server? (Dell Poweredge 4400) Charles R. Dewar Systems Administrator North Hills Hospital Phone: 817.255.1777 Toll-free Fax: 866.947.3756 Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/
RE: Get Me Off the List, Please
Heck, I get off ON this list... if you know what I mean. This is my continuing education source. -Original Message- From: Jesse E. Gardner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 6:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please For the life of me, I can't figure out why anyone would want to get off of this list. ??? :) Jesse E. Gardner, MCP P.O. Box 11431 Columbia, SC 29211 (803)216-0119 (803)216-0921 fax (803)361-4361 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 3:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:RE: Get Me Off the List, Please Get yourself off the list. The link is at the bottom of the email. -Original Message- From: Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Get Me Off the List, Please [EMAIL PROTECTED] please remove the address above from the list server thank you...in over my head here http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mode=0lang=english
RE: Repetitive posts
'Zactly. Let's leave the moderating to Stu. -Original Message- From: Richard McClary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Repetitive posts Just one problem with this - email delivery is not instant. I often get many follow-up postings before I receive the original question. Sure, there are some sloppy folks out there (and I have seen several folks say Do this... when the frustrated poster has already mentioned that this did not work). However, if someone asks a very simple question, lots of folks are going to reply before they receive any of the follow-up postings. At 09:01 AM 9/25/2001 -0700, you wrote: This list is high volume. But much of that can be cured by people reading the rest of the posts to see if the question's been answered already - before they post their answer. Case in point: there must've been 20 Memphis responses to the Win98 Code name question and a similar number of responses to the 'Safe Mode' key question. -- Richard D. McClary| Systems Administrator ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center| [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1717 S. Philo Rd, Suite 36, Urbana, IL| (217) 337-5030 ext. 261 Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mod e=0lang=english Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mode=0lang=english
RE: Get Me Off the List, Please
Name one. -Original Message- From: Andrew Blevins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please Looks like those of us who want off the list will have to set up an auto-delete rule. This list is so full of noise, its not worth it. There are much more professional, and useful, lists out there. -Original Message- From: Darril Gibson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 5:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please Me too. It was advertised as a no noise list. Not so. In just a couple of hours, I have over 100 emails. I tried to get off, but the scripts on the web page don't allow it. Darril R. Gibson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Director of Continuing Education MCT, MCSE, MCDBA, MCSD America's Computer Training Source 340-, Cell 328-9299 -Original Message- From: Lucia, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 5:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please Just for your info the script is not working!!! I too would like off this list Steve J. Lucia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sr. Network Specialist Client Server Group FFIOC 707-436-2840 co# 227-2840 pager 707-427-9176 -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please Get yourself off the list. The link is at the bottom of the email. -Original Message- From: Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Get Me Off the List, Please [EMAIL PROTECTED] please remove the address above from the list server thank you...in over my head here http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mod e=0lang=english Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmintext_mode=0lang=english
RE: Get Me Off the List, Please
So glad to see these people leave... -Original Message- From: Lance Klindt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please Me THree? I want to be PULLED Please... for the love of GOd 3 or 4 post an hour would be fine not.. 3 or 4 a f*cking Min. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 2:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Get Me Off the List, Please http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl -Original Message- From: Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Get Me Off the List, Please [EMAIL PROTECTED] please remove the address above from the list server thank you...in over my head here http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Setting Kixtart logon window
You guys are invaluable. Thanks! -Original Message- From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 3:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setting Kixtart logon window Charles, For item 2, you need to add this registry key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon] RunLogonScriptSync=1 Malcolm -Original Message- From: Dewar Charles R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 3:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Setting Kixtart logon window When Kixtart is run on our PC's sometimes it is windowed, sometimes it is minimized. How can I make sure that it euns as a window so the user can see the progress. Also, is there a setting to prevent W2K from loading the desktop until the script is finished? Again, some PC's wait and others do not. Weird. Charles R. Dewar Systems Administrator North Hills Hospital Phone: 817.255.1777 Toll-free Fax: 866.947.3756 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: How do you all do it?
Sort by thread. Scan messages. Delete whole threads. -Original Message- From: Don Collier (Intermap Denver) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 5:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: How do you all do it? I just joined this list today and am overwhelmed with email. Almost 200 messages today. How do you all keep up with this list and get any work done? (Not meant to imply anything) _ Don Collier Network Administrator Intermap Technologies Inc. Voice: 303-708-0955 x-207 Fax:303-708-0952 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.intermaptechnologies.com http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Recover Deleted files
You could do Undelete, but consider if this might be a good lesson for them. -Original Message- From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 11:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Recover Deleted files Anyone here have any products they use to recover deleted files once they have been removed from the recycle bin? I have a user here that says an important file has disappeared from his computer. Any recommendations? TIA, Mark http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Just a hoax ...WORST EVER VIRUS
Title: Message When you can snatch this pebble out of my hand, Grasshopper, ... -Original Message-From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:35 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Just a hoax ...WORST EVER VIRUS And with age, comes experience, but experience is not necessarily dependant on age Regards, Sean Martin, MCSENetwork AdministratorRibelin Lowell CompanyInsurance Brokers, Inc.3111 C Street, Suite 300Anchorage, Alaska 99503Ph: (907) 561-1250Fax: (907) 561-4315Cell: (907) 229-0885Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Diane Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:35 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Just a hoax ...WORST EVER VIRUS Just remember "old" is a state of mind :-) -Original Message-From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:24 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Just a hoax ...WORST EVER VIRUS Who you callin old girl?!?!? ;o) -Original Message-From: Diane Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 2:19 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Just a hoax ...WORST EVER VIRUS It's OK Sabrina. Don't let these "old-timers" scare you. You are not the first newbie to try and help out by posting a hoax that they thought was a real virus. Especially since there is a really nasty one running around. Be sure to respond to whomever sent this to you and let them know to check out viruses on sites such as Symantec, NAI and such before they send them to you. Believe me, if a virus is running, this list will know about long before any User will and if you stay on this list every day, so will you. Diane -Original Message-From: Kelly Borndale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 2:07 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Re: WORST EVER VIRUS (CNN announced) No comment. K.Borndale [EMAIL PROTECTED] -home email - Original Message - From: Sabrina Stolcz To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 4:39 PM Subject: RE: WORST EVER VIRUS (CNN announced) sorry, I sent it as soon as someone forwarded it.-Original Message-From: Sabrina Stolcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 4:18 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: WORST EVER VIRUS (CNN announced)WORST EVER VIRUS (CNN announced) PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERYONE ON YOUR CONTACT LIST!! A new virus has just been discovered that has been classified by Microsoftas the most destructive ever!This virus was discovered yesterday afternoon by McAfee and no vaccine hasyet been developed. This virus simply destroys Sector Zero from the hard disk, where vital information for its Functioning are stored. This virus acts in the following manner:It sends itself automatically to all contacts on your list with the title"A Virtual Card for You." As soon as the supposed virtual card is opened,the computer freezes so that the user has to reboot. When the ctrl+alt+del keys or the reset button are pressed, the virus destroys Sector Zero,thuspermanently destroying the hard disk.Yesterday in just a few hours this virus caused panic in New York, according to news broadcast by CNN. This alert was received by an employeeof Microsoft itself. So don't open any mails with subject: "A Virtual Card for You." As soon as you get the mail, delete it.This email with all information contained herein or attached hereto maycontain confidential and/or privileged information intended for theaddressee(s) only. If you have received this email in error, please contactthe sender and immediately delete this email in its entirety and anyattachments thereto..http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmThis email with all information contained
Setting Kixtart logon window
When Kixtart is run on our PC's sometimes it is windowed, sometimes it is minimized. How can I make sure that it euns as a window so the user can see the progress. Also, is there a setting to prevent W2K from loading the desktop until the script is finished? Again, some PC's wait and others do not. Weird. Charles R. Dewar Systems Administrator North Hills Hospital Phone: 817.255.1777 Toll-free Fax: 866.947.3756 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: L. Neil Smith On Morning of Horror 9-11-01
What a whack job. Heck, http://www.xdude.com gave a more reasoned response. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: FW: L. Neil Smith On Morning of Horror 9-11-01 Fellow Sysadmins; Some of you may recognize the author of the piece below. For those of you who don't, he's a recognized science fiction author, and a lesser-known political writer, with a number of books published in each field. I hope you find it interesting, and keep his cautions in mind when evaluating the actions of not only the US goverment, but also other governments and other organizations as well. Kurt --- From: L. Neil Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:41:57 -0600 Subject:MORNING OF HORROR MORNING OF HORROR By L. Neil Smith mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Special to _The Libertarian Enterpise_ http://www.webleyweb.com/lneil First of all, expect never to learn the truth about what happened at the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and elsewhere this morning of September 11, 2001, any more than we did with regard to the murders of Jack and Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King, at Ruby Ridge, Waco, or Oklahoma City. Ambiguity and uncertainty serve far too many political interests. Another certainty is that, although I'm told 50,000 people worked in the World Trade Center, more innocent individuals will die as a result of what the Old Media are lovingly referring to as a lockdown of Manhattan and other places, than any acts of terrorism that may have occurred. The military has just said they'll shoot down any plane they see flying. Only one civilian plane is in the air this morning, Air Force One; that's as grim a warning of things to come as I can think of. Collateral deaths won't just happen as a consequence, say, of somebody with a heart attack being unable to get to a hospital, but whenever and wherever some dumb kid in an army uniform gets startled by a car backfiring and starts spraying everybody and his pet poodle with automatic rifle fire. Or to whomever the martial lawyers decide it's safe to liquidate using this foul mess as a cover. Or, vastly more ominously, to people in the not-so-distant future who decide they must resist the police state that will inevitably result from these events. It's extremely difficult to think coherently about long term effects, let alone to get it all down in writing, when you learn that, not only were hijacked commercial aircraft used to commit these unspeakably evil acts, but that 90 passengers died helplessly in the first plane, and others yet unnumbered may have died in subsequent attacks. _Somebody_ has to think about it, though, or this situation will be used to turn the Bill of Rights off forever. Depending on the planning behind it, or who did the planning, it may already be too late. All airports have been shut down today, and I shudder to think about what flying will be like from now on. The Clintons, Schumers, and Waxmans will try to shut down the Internet, calling it a breeding ground for terrorism. The Bushes and Cheneys will reluctantly go along. Rush Limbaugh will cheer them on. What should those who value their freedom do? Every chance you have, from this moment on, whether it's on talk radio, or on the letters to the editor page, on the Internet while it's still possible, or in communication with everyone you know -- it's time for even the most apolitical to write to senators and congressmen -- emphasize two points: First, inform them that closing down the First or Second or any other Amendment is not an appropriate response to what's happened, and that any politician or bureaucrat in office who attempts to capitalize on today's horrors is committing the same sort of blatantly criminal act I've always insisted must be punished under Bill of Rights enforcement. Second, these things happen to nations with imperial ambitions. There has never been a major act of terrorism I know of that hasn't resulted from an act of government that violated somebody's rights. The way to keep this sort of thing from happening again is to stop those violations. Hideously enough, my new novel _The American Zone_, scheduled to be published next November by Tor Books, begins with an act very similar to this one, carried out to force the creation of a strong central government in the governmentless North American Confederacy that figures in so many of my books. As anybody who knows my work can safely predict, the evil scheme doesn't work and the villains are defeated. Life isn't as predictably pleasant as fiction. Happy endings are few and far between. But it's important to act swiftly if we're to preserve anything resembling the freedom that made this civilization great. Pass the word. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about
I love it. I'm not going to use this forum (or my employer's time) to proselytize... BUT... Fundamental theism is probably going to be the root reason of the attack. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about On top of Revelation, the book of Daniel also makes for an interesting read. I'm not going to use this forum (or my employer's time) to proselytize. I would just encourage those who do not believe that the Bible is the word of God to maybe reconsider when Israel becomes involved in an all-out war in the Middle East. If I'm wrong and the war never happens, you can thumb your nose at me and laugh. But if I'm right and the war DOES happen, grab yourself a Bible and start reading it with the state of mind that it may not just be a book full of fiction after all. Intellectuality and faith are not mutually exclusive. That's all I'm going to say on the matter, so please withhold the flames (unless you want to send them to me personally off the list). John Hornbuckle Network Manager Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 -Original Message- From: Matthew Western [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about Hi People, I'd just like to express sadness to all the people in the US effected by the attacks on US. I think it's disgusting and should be punished. While people everywhere are in a state of shock/uncertainty/fear it's worth thinking about where each of us are going to spend our eternal destiny. The Bible predicts basically a World War 3 where everyone will attack Israel and try to wipe them off the face off the earth... Revelation is an interesting book to read through Have a good day (and think about the following excert). Regards Matthew http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about
I am so sick of hearing about Nostradamus. He just predicted lots of violence. Mankind, being violent, constantly provides opportunities to prove him correct. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about For an interesting commentary on this particular Nostradamus prediction, check this out: http://www.ed.brocku.ca/~nmarshal/nostradamus.htm John Hornbuckle Network Manager Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 -Original Message- From: Greg J. Ewy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about Thanks for the expressions of support. Means much to us, knowing that there are lots of others throughout the world who feel the pain, and are supportive. Revelations, Armaggeddon, and Nostradamus have been on my mind lots today. In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb The third big war will begin when the big city is burning - Nostradamus 1654 Greg J. Ewy Trilogy Systems 515-964-9505 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about
Well, Murray, I suspect you may be in the minority with me. -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about Here! Here! and AMEN! Murray -Original Message- From: Dewar Charles R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about I am so sick of hearing about Nostradamus. He just predicted lots of violence. Mankind, being violent, constantly provides opportunities to prove him correct. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about For an interesting commentary on this particular Nostradamus prediction, check this out: http://www.ed.brocku.ca/~nmarshal/nostradamus.htm John Hornbuckle Network Manager Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 -Original Message- From: Greg J. Ewy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about Thanks for the expressions of support. Means much to us, knowing that there are lots of others throughout the world who feel the pain, and are supportive. Revelations, Armaggeddon, and Nostradamus have been on my mind lots today. In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb The third big war will begin when the big city is burning - Nostradamus 1654 Greg J. Ewy Trilogy Systems 515-964-9505 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about
S... they are wrong and you are right. H... Anti-christ? Perhaps your views would be perceived as Anti-Islamic. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about I just visited this site link! The teachings of Islam seem to be very Anti-Christ. They don't seem to deny Jesus existed; only that He is the Son of God who came in the flesh, died on the cross for the sins of mankind, was buried, rose again and is now seated at the right hand of God. Further I noted that they believe salvation is through not only belief in God but through works; forgiveness of sins is obtained by converting to Islam...??? They go to great lengths to substantiate Muhammad' s qualifications as a prophet by quoting the Old Testament??? Hmmm... If they then use the Old Testament as a base to substantiate Muhammad why wouldn't they then see that in the Old Testament under the Law there is NO remission of sin without the shedding of blood in the form of a sacrifice (Lamb)? Jesus who lived without sin was made sin and slain as a sacrifice for the sins of all men. For as sin entered the world through one man (Adam) sin was atoned for by one man (Jesus). For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. My humble opinion, Harry Campbell RZorz@ScottsdaleC hamber.com To: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/12/2001 12:04cc: PM Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Please respond toSomething to think about NT System Admin Issues Last night while watching my son at Pop Warner football practice, this tragedy was of course the topic of conversation. It's amazing to me how many experts there are. One guy was talking about why Muslims hate Christians. Being pretty damn ignorant, I decided to do a little research this morning, and found this site - www.islam-guide.com. Maybe it's watered down a bit, and it doesn't explain religious fanaticism. But at least I understand their religion a little bit better. Just thought I throw this out. At least for me, education and understanding goes a long way. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about On top of Revelation, the book of Daniel also makes for an interesting read. I'm not going to use this forum (or my employer's time) to proselytize. I would just encourage those who do not believe that the Bible is the word of God to maybe reconsider when Israel becomes involved in an all-out war in the Middle East. If I'm wrong and the war never happens, you can thumb your nose at me and laugh. But if I'm right and the war DOES happen, grab yourself a Bible and start reading it with the state of mind that it may not just be a book full of fiction after all. Intellectuality and faith are not mutually exclusive. That's all I'm going to say on the matter, so please withhold the flames (unless you want to send them to me personally off the list). John Hornbuckle Network Manager Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 -Original Message- From: Matthew Western [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about Hi People, I'd just like to express sadness to all the people in the US effected by the attacks on US. I think it's disgusting and should be punished. While people everywhere are in a state of shock/uncertainty/fear it's worth thinking about where each of us are going to spend our eternal destiny. The Bible predicts basically a World War 3 where everyone will attack Israel and try to wipe them off the face off the earth... Revelation is an interesting book to read through Have a good day (and think about the following excert). Regards Matthew http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about
I'm used to being in the minority... at work, in my community. I had to shed my Christian upbringing. Very difficult. I don't mind being in the minority, but it can be worrisome at times when your employers, neighbors, and even this list owner is very much Christian. I don't want to lose my job, friendships, or list access for perceived insults. -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about And what's wrong with that? I have no problem representing the minority, no more than representing the majority. But having grown up as a Jew in a very Christian area, I fully understand the benefits of being a minority. It didn't stop me then and it won't stop me now. Murray -Original Message- From: Dewar Charles R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about Well, Murray, I suspect you may be in the minority with me. -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about Here! Here! and AMEN! Murray -Original Message- From: Dewar Charles R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about I am so sick of hearing about Nostradamus. He just predicted lots of violence. Mankind, being violent, constantly provides opportunities to prove him correct. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about For an interesting commentary on this particular Nostradamus prediction, check this out: http://www.ed.brocku.ca/~nmarshal/nostradamus.htm John Hornbuckle Network Manager Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 -Original Message- From: Greg J. Ewy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Australian Expressing Sadness + Something to think about Thanks for the expressions of support. Means much to us, knowing that there are lots of others throughout the world who feel the pain, and are supportive. Revelations, Armaggeddon, and Nostradamus have been on my mind lots today. In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb The third big war will begin when the big city is burning - Nostradamus 1654 Greg J. Ewy Trilogy Systems 515-964-9505 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack
Title: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Thank god you aren't running the country. As Bugs Bunny said, "What a maroon." -Original Message-From: Banyas, Pat F. Civ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:24 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Those that advocate waiting for a full and complete accounting to determine blame are WRONG. We should retaliateNOW against ANY terrorist group that haveEVER in the past taken ANY type of action against the US. 50,000 people deserve RETRIBUTION and those of us still here DEMAND a strong deterrent for the future. Pat Banyas US Naval Hospital Guantanamo Bay -Original Message-From: Phillips, Glen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:48 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack My girlfrinds uncle has a law firm "next door to the towers"..its sure gonna be a lng day -Original Message-From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 16:44To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Daughter just told me news reports say estimated 20,000 total in the two towers at that time of day. -Original Message-From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:41To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack I heard 50+ thousand -Original Message-From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:44To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack any stats on how many people work/live in the WTC and/or area? i estimated around 25k-50k ... -Original Message-From: MLewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:37To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Both World Trade Center buildings have fallen. There is only rubble where these historic structures stood. Marcella D. Lewis Network Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Excellence is in the details. Give attention to the details and excellence will come." (Perry Paxton) -Original Message-From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:30 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Could you confirm either more or less whether the structures are basically now grade level? -Original Message- From: Roman Bogdanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:24 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Im about 40 blocks from the towers and we were all told we can go home but all the bridges and subways are closed so here i am trying to figure out a way to get to brooklyn. Roman Bogdanov Head of IT Support Jnana Technologies Corp. www.jnana.com 212-560-9151 ext. 202 212-560-9066 fax -Original Message- From: Richard Newton Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Us in Jersey City, NJ (just across the water) were evacuated and sent home. Its going to be a long day for all. -Original Message- From: Jeff Pace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack and it doesn't seem to be over yet. Jeff -Original Message- From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack This is an incredibly tragic day. Probably the most tragic for the US since the assassination of JFK - ASB -Original Message- From: Richard McMahon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NewYork Terrorist Attack Check out this link. http://www.skynews.co.uk/skynews/storytemplate/storytoppic/0,,3-1029 102, 00.html Hope out all you guys in the New York area are still with us.. Good luck,
RE: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too mu ch t ime.. Let FBI take care it..
Geez, people, let's calm down and not let this ruin this community. -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too much t ime.. Let FBI take care it.. FZCK YOU! -Original Message- From: Albert Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Everybody get back to work.. Stupid Terrorist waste us too much t ime.. Let FBI take care it.. Back to works.. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: New York Terrorist Attack
Title: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Blood lust. -Original Message-From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:32 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: New York Terrorist Attack So more carnage is needed for us to have some kind of closure, even if it is misdirected ... I disagree in a big way -Original Message-From: Banyas, Pat F. Civ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:24To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Those that advocate waiting for a full and complete accounting to determine blame are WRONG. We should retaliateNOW against ANY terrorist group that haveEVER in the past taken ANY type of action against the US. 50,000 people deserve RETRIBUTION and those of us still here DEMAND a strong deterrent for the future. Pat Banyas US Naval Hospital Guantanamo Bay -Original Message-From: Phillips, Glen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:48 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack My girlfrinds uncle has a law firm "next door to the towers"..its sure gonna be a lng day -Original Message-From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 16:44To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Daughter just told me news reports say estimated 20,000 total in the two towers at that time of day. -Original Message-From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:41To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack I heard 50+ thousand -Original Message-From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:44To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack any stats on how many people work/live in the WTC and/or area? i estimated around 25k-50k ... -Original Message-From: MLewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:37To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Both World Trade Center buildings have fallen. There is only rubble where these historic structures stood. Marcella D. Lewis Network Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Excellence is in the details. Give attention to the details and excellence will come." (Perry Paxton) -Original Message-From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:30 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Could you confirm either more or less whether the structures are basically now grade level? -Original Message- From: Roman Bogdanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:24 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Im about 40 blocks from the towers and we were all told we can go home but all the bridges and subways are closed so here i am trying to figure out a way to get to brooklyn. Roman Bogdanov Head of IT Support Jnana Technologies Corp. www.jnana.com 212-560-9151 ext. 202 212-560-9066 fax -Original Message- From: Richard Newton Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Us in Jersey City, NJ (just across the water) were evacuated and sent home. Its going to be a long day for all. -Original Message- From: Jeff Pace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack and it doesn't seem to be over yet. Jeff -Original Message- From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack This is an incredibly tragic day. Probably the most tragic for the US since the assassination of JFK - ASB
RE: New York Terrorist Attack
Title: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack No one knows who "them" is. -Original Message-From: Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:32 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: New York Terrorist Attack Do you think taking them off our Christmas card list would get their attention! Joseph Smith Network Administrator Perlos, Inc. 5201 Alliance Gateway Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729 Work: 817-224-9012 Cell: 817-999-7703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Dewar Charles R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:22 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: New York Terrorist Attack Blood lust. -Original Message-From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:32 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: New York Terrorist Attack So more carnage is needed for us to have some kind of closure, even if it is misdirected ... I disagree in a big way -Original Message-From: Banyas, Pat F. Civ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:24To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Those that advocate waiting for a full and complete accounting to determine blame are WRONG. We should retaliateNOW against ANY terrorist group that haveEVER in the past taken ANY type of action against the US. 50,000 people deserve RETRIBUTION and those of us still here DEMAND a strong deterrent for the future. Pat Banyas US Naval Hospital Guantanamo Bay -Original Message-From: Phillips, Glen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:48 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack My girlfrinds uncle has a law firm "next door to the towers"..its sure gonna be a lng day -Original Message-From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 16:44To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Daughter just told me news reports say estimated 20,000 total in the two towers at that time of day. -Original Message-From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:41To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack I heard 50+ thousand -Original Message-From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:44To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack any stats on how many people work/live in the WTC and/or area? i estimated around 25k-50k ... -Original Message-From: MLewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:37To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Both World Trade Center buildings have fallen. There is only rubble where these historic structures stood. Marcella D. Lewis Network Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Excellence is in the details. Give attention to the details and excellence will come." (Perry Paxton) -Original Message-From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:30 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Could you confirm either more or less whether the structures are basically now grade level? -Original Message- From: Roman Bogdanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:24 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Im about 40 blocks from the towers and we were all told we can go home but all the bridges and subways are closed so here i am trying to figure out a way to get to brooklyn. Roman Bogdanov Head of
RE: New York Terrorist Attack
Title: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Sure didn't see this one coming, did they? -Original Message-From: Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:17 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: New York Terrorist Attack Just because you don't know doesn't mean US intelligence doesn't. Joseph Smith Network Administrator Perlos, Inc. 5201 Alliance Gateway Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729 Work: 817-224-9012 Cell: 817-999-7703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Dewar Charles R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:58 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: New York Terrorist Attack No one knows who "them" is. -Original Message-From: Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:32 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: New York Terrorist Attack Do you think taking them off our Christmas card list would get their attention! Joseph Smith Network Administrator Perlos, Inc. 5201 Alliance Gateway Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729 Work: 817-224-9012 Cell: 817-999-7703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Dewar Charles R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:22 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: New York Terrorist Attack Blood lust. -Original Message-From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:32 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: New York Terrorist Attack So more carnage is needed for us to have some kind of closure, even if it is misdirected ... I disagree in a big way -Original Message-From: Banyas, Pat F. Civ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:24To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Those that advocate waiting for a full and complete accounting to determine blame are WRONG. We should retaliateNOW against ANY terrorist group that haveEVER in the past taken ANY type of action against the US. 50,000 people deserve RETRIBUTION and those of us still here DEMAND a strong deterrent for the future. Pat Banyas US Naval Hospital Guantanamo Bay -Original Message-From: Phillips, Glen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:48 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack My girlfrinds uncle has a law firm "next door to the towers"..its sure gonna be a lng day -Original Message-From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 16:44To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Daughter just told me news reports say estimated 20,000 total in the two towers at that time of day. -Original Message-From: Rogers, Jeff L (OM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:41To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack I heard 50+ thousand -Original Message-From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:44To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack any stats on how many people work/live in the WTC and/or area? i estimated around 25k-50k ... -Original Message-From: MLewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:37To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NewYork Terrorist Attack Both World Trade Center buildings have fallen. There is only rubble where these historic structures stood. Marcella D. Lewis Network Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Excellence
Folder Convolutions
Got a Windows 2000 Server with Windows 2000 clients (no AD). Here's what I did and I would love other sysadmin opinions: 1) For home shares, I wanted each user to map directly to their folder. I created the Users$ folder for organization and administration. \\servername\Users$\username$\ Users$ Share=Admin (Full) File Security=Everyone (Full) Username$ (Changes with each user) Share=User (Change) File Security=Everyone (Full) 2) For folders shared by groups of users, I wanted them to be able to see all the folder names but only have access to the ones they should have. \\servername\Groups$\subfolder Groups$ Share=Admin (Full) Everyone (Change) File Security=Everyone (Read, List Folder Contents) Admin (Full) subfolders File Security=Specific Global Group (Modify) Admin (Full) 3) Now the trickiest one: For shared application files, I wanted to be able to map each user to a specific hidden share, but I did not want them to be able to browse by double-clicking the mapped drive. The applications they ran needed to be able to modify the data on the server, but I did not want them to be able to easily delete the data through newbie behavior. Each of the application shortcuts on their PC would access the files in the subfolders *beyond* the share. \\servername\Apps$\application Apps$ Share=Admin (Full) Everyone (Change) File Security=Admin (Full) Everyone (Traverse Folder) --- Here's the important part application File Security=Admin (Full) Specific Global Group (Change) Now, the hickie we came across is that the apps on the server like SQL and Norton Antivirus could no longer access the folders in which we had removed the Everyone rights. Adding SYSTEM and SERVICE accounts seemed to have fixed that. Now, I know I can do this much easier by mapping many drives, but I want to keep things organized and simple for the users. Anyone know of a better way? Charles R. Dewar Systems Administrator North Hills Hospital Phone: 817.255.1777 Toll-free Fax: 866.947.3756 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: What do you get for Over Time
Really?! That's only 50 hours a week. I work a minimum of 45 hours a week. -Original Message- From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What do you get for Over Time 40 hours OT in a month seems really extreme. I knew getting into the game long hours and weekends were part of the deal. And little appreciation is the other benefit. Like some of the others, my boss knows what I am doing for the company, and gives me a lot of room time wise. If I drag myself in late a few days, she doesn't worry about it. If I knock off an hour early here and there, that's cool too. As long as the ship is sailing, I have a lot of flexibility. Officially, no one else in the company has to know about it. I put in my more than my fair share of time, and everyone realizes that. It all boils down to how tight you are with your boss. -Original Message- From: Mathews, James E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: What do you get for Over Time I was wondering if anyone has any policies set up for Over Time. The reason I ask is one of the other network guys and myself have put in about 40 hours over time this month and we receive nothing for it. Just wondering what policies are set up at other companies to compensate for over time. We consistently work about 8-12 hours over a month and we get no time off or anything for this. Management keeps telling us it is just part of our job and we can not get any comp time even though we are only scheduled for 40 hours a week. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: What do you get for Over Time
I don't think that is the case in Texas. Are you talking about ALASKA DOL? -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 11:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What do you get for Over Time I've been a salaried, non-exempt employee for the past 3 years and I've always gotten time and a half for any over-time I put in. However, our HR person recently contacted the Department of Labor and found out some interesting facts. Anyone who is not in a position where 2 or more people work directly under them, is considered a non-exempt employee (at least in our case). Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What do you get for Over Time I didn't think you did, I was pointing out the math. Greg -Original Message- From: Seth M. Kusiak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What do you get for Over Time It was ONLY an example. I don't make 10K a year. Greg Page writes: If you made $10,000 a year that would be $5.00 and hour. I haven't had and overtime paying job in years but we've always managed to snag lots of extra time off when we can. The nature of the IT beast is that sometimes there is OT involved and long nights and weekends. Just part of the job. Greg -Original Message- From: Seth M. Kusiak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What do you get for Over Time I'm salaried, but if I work over 45 hours in a week then for each hour that I work past 45, I get half of my base rate. Example: If I make $10,000 a year and my hourly rate is $10.00, for each hour that I work past 45, I would get $5.00 an hour that is paid quarterly. I really like this because I usually end up with a few thousand extra each quarter. ~Seth Mathews, James E. writes: I was wondering if anyone has any policies set up for Over Time. The reason I ask is one of the other network guys and myself have put in about 40 hours over time this month and we receive nothing for it. Just wondering what policies are set up at other companies to compensate for over time. We consistently work about 8-12 hours over a month and we get no time off or anything for this. Management keeps telling us it is just part of our job and we can not get any comp time even though we are only scheduled for 40 hours a week. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm DO NOT read, copy or disseminate this communication unless you are the intended addressee. This e-mail communication contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error, please call us immediately at (907) 561-1250 and ask to speak to the sender of the communication. Also, please e-mail the sender and notify the sender immediately that you have received the communication in error. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Is IEAK still downloadable
Next time... Google! In the search box type site:microsoft.com IEAK without the quotes. Google does a much better job than MS even on its own site. -Original Message- From: Said Samman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is IEAK still downloadable I can't find the IE administration kit on Microsoft's site. Was it removed, replaced. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.asp If you know where I can find please forward link Thanks to all Said Samman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 416.966.4000 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: What do you get for Over Time
Title: RE: What do you get for Over Time Gotta be new to the list. What a wiener. -Original Message-From: Blake R. Fowkes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 11:53 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: What do you get for Over Time Far be it for me to complain but I thought that this list was for NT ADMIN discussion. If y'all want to talk about HR CRAP then find an HR related mailing list and get these stupid questions out of the NT ADMIN list Thanks, Blake Fowkes Waid and Associates -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 11:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What do you get for Over Time I've been a salaried, non-exempt employee for the past 3 years and I've always gotten time and a half for any over-time I put in. However, our HR person recently contacted the Department of Labor and found out some interesting facts. Anyone who is not in a position where 2 or more people work directly under them, is considered a non-exempt employee (at least in our case). Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What do you get for Over Time I didn't think you did, I was pointing out the math. Greg -Original Message- From: Seth M. Kusiak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What do you get for Over Time It was ONLY an example. I don't make 10K a year. Greg Page writes: If you made $10,000 a year that would be $5.00 and hour. I haven't had and overtime paying job in years but we've always managed to snag lots of extra time off when we can. The nature of the IT beast is that sometimes there is OT involved and long nights and weekends. Just part of the job. Greg -Original Message- From: Seth M. Kusiak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What do you get for Over Time I'm salaried, but if I work over 45 hours in a week then for each hour that I work past 45, I get half of my base rate. Example: If I make $10,000 a year and my hourly rate is $10.00, for each hour that I work past 45, I would get $5.00 an hour that is paid quarterly. I really like this because I usually end up with a few thousand extra each quarter. ~Seth Mathews, James E. writes: I was wondering if anyone has any policies set up for Over Time. The reason I ask is one of the other network guys and myself have put in about 40 hours over time this month and we receive nothing for it. Just wondering what policies are set up at other companies to compensate for over time. We consistently work about 8-12 hours over a month and we get no time off or anything for this. Management keeps telling us it is just part of our job and we can not get any comp time even though we are only scheduled for 40 hours a week. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm DO NOT read, copy or disseminate this communication unless you are the intended addressee. This e-mail communication contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error, please call us immediately at (907) 561-1250 and ask to speak to the sender of the communication. Also, please e-mail the sender and notify the sender immediately that you have received the communication in error. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: RE: Memory problems
Overcompensating for... -Original Message-From: Correa, Andre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 11:41 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: RE: Memory problems LOL!!! -Original Message-From: Brenden C. Bryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 7:53 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: OT: RE: Memory problems That has to be one of the biggest sigs I have ever seen. : -Original Message-From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 6:11 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Memory problems My bad, I misread the questionthe usageis humming around2334000k. Regards, Sean Martin, MCSENetwork AdministratorRibelin Lowell CompanyInsurance Brokers, Inc.3111 C Street, Suite 300Anchorage, Alaska 99503Ph: (907) 561-1250Fax: (907) 561-4315Cell: (907) 229-0885Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm DO NOT read, copy or disseminate this communication unless you are the intended addressee. This e-mail communication contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error, please call us immediately at (907) 561-1250 and ask to speak to the sender of the communication. Also, please e-mail the sender and notify the sender immediately that you have received the communication in error. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Easiest way to move everything to new server
I have one W2K Server that I want to move everything lock, stock, and barrel to a new one -- all data, shares, and file permissions. What is the best way? My ideas: 1) Backup server with Backup Exec and restore to new server. 2) Copy data files and then import registry key SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanServer\Shares ala http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q125/9/96.asp Your ideas? Charles R. Dewar Systems Administrator North Hills Hospital Phone: 817.255.1777 Toll-free Fax: 866.947.3756 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Easiest way to move everything to new server
Server name the same. -Original Message- From: Dean Cunningham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 8:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Easiest way to move everything to new server Are you keeping the server name the same , at the end of it? -Original Message- From: Dewar Charles R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 27 August 2001 8:07 a.m. To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Easiest way to move everything to new server I have one W2K Server that I want to move everything lock, stock, and barrel to a new one -- all data, shares, and file permissions. What is the best way? My ideas: 1) Backup server with Backup Exec and restore to new server. 2) Copy data files and then import registry key SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanServer\Shares ala http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q125/9/96.asp Your ideas? Charles R. Dewar Systems Administrator North Hills Hospital Phone: 817.255.1777 Toll-free Fax: 866.947.3756 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm *** This e-mail is not an official statement of the Waikato Regional Council unless otherwise stated. Visit our website http://www.ew.govt.nz *** http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Network Audit
PCBase (which collates PCInfo data). http://www.mvsoft-comp.com/index.htm -Original Message- From: David Elebute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Network Audit Does anyone have a recommendation on NT/Win2K audit software? I am looking for a good application with little network overhead that will gather information on OS, Desktop Apps, BIOS info etc from within a an NT domain. Thanks to all in advance. David Elebute Director of MIS SuperClubs http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: MS patch-scanner for Win-NT, 2K, IIS, SQL
Hmmm The patch checker found that my IIS 5 installation needed Q296185. http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q296/1/85.ASP I applied the patch to it and now have a problem. My little intranet web site is stopped and when I try to start it, I get the following error: The service could not be started because it is not configured properly. Make sure that the server bindings do not conflict with other sites running on the same machine. Now, if I stop the Default Web Site, I can start the Intranet Web Site and vice versa. Problem is, a Software Artisans loaded its SMTP service in the Default Web Site. Being a newbie to IIS, why is this occurring and what is the best solution? Charles R. Dewar Systems Administrator http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: MS patch-scanner for Win-NT, 2K, IIS, SQL
It would be great if SystemTools integrated this into Hyena! -Original Message- From: Nail, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS patch-scanner for Win-NT, 2K, IIS, SQL Due to time outs at the register. Frequently Asked Questions about the Microsoft Network Security Hotfix Checker (Hfnetchk.exe) Tool http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q305/3/85.ASP -Original Message- From: Phillips, Glen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 4:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: MS patch-scanner for Win-NT, 2K, IIS, SQL This sounds like it will save everyone a lot of stress http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/21019.html I've checked and the notes for it aren't up at this point in time but should be soon http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
