RE: Uggg -- Flash 11.4 on RDS (terminal services)

2012-10-04 Thread Jesse Rink
Thanks for the tip to your post. Checking into it and will try some of those
fixes on Friday.

 

J

 

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 7:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Uggg -- Flash 11.4 on RDS (terminal services)

 

Hey Jesse, if you look back I posted on 9/12/2012, with this thread Flash
and RDS with Thin clients. Identical issue to what you are seeing. I still
have not resolved the issue. In my case I've got (3) identical RDS severs,
and only one is exhibiting the issue, no idea why. I really think it's a
permissions issue, but haven't found any resolution.  There was an article I
found that discussed the issue and there were steps to reset the permissions
on specific folders, but in my situation id didn't resolve the problem. If
you come up with a fix let us know. I may end up going the Firefox route
until someone finds a solution. 

Thanks, 


Christopher Bodnar 
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise
Architecture and Engineering Services 


Tel 610-807-6459  
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 
 mailto: christopher_bod...@glic.com 




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From:Jesse Rink jesse-r...@wi.rr.com 
To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:10/02/2012 10:21 PM 
Subject:Uggg -- Flash 11.4 on RDS (terminal services) 

  _  




So at first I thought I was going crazy.  I have a 2008 R2 terminal server
(RDS) that hadn't been updated in many months.  It was running an older
version of Adobe Flash (no, I don't remember which version but something
PRE-June 2012 at least).  In late September, some of the users were saying
that certain websites required a newer version of flash in order to view the
site properly (mostly kid's learning sites).   So I updated Flash to the
latest 11.4 version on the 2008 R2 RDS box.  (I did use the change user
/install command before updating Flash.

Since then, nothing but problems.  Anyone aside from the Administrator
cannot properly browse websites.  Going to msn.com, Microsoft.com,
abcya.com, and pretty much ANYTHING that isn't just some basic static
website, takes literally 8-10 minutes to load.  At first I thought the users
were crazy but, after some testing, I was able to verify this was true.  I
uninstalled Flash, and geez, all the problems with websites loading slow is
FIXED.   If I try to reinstall Flash 11.4, the same thing happens, websites
take forever to load.

I thought maybe my 2008 R2 RDS box was messed up so I built a brand new 2008
R2 RDS server. Loaded up Office 2007, Adobe Reader, and a few other apps
that are on the older RDS box.  Then installed Flash 11.4.  Initially,
everything seemed to be working.  Then after a reboot (or maybe 2?), the
EXACT same thing starts happening.  Administrator can access websites fine,
but users cannot, they just have to wait and wait... This happens when the
internet pipe is NOT even 1% utilized.   On this brand new RDS server,
uninstalling Flash 11.4 once again FIXES the problem.  Yet, I need Flash on
it because it's used on a small school lab for learning sites, ughh.

I've tried installing OLDER versions of Flash (11.3, 10.3, etc.) on the new
RDS box after having uninstalled 11.4, but when the older versions are
installed, I cannot even pass the Flash Tests (do you have Flash on your
machine?) from the Adobe site, whether logged in as an administrator or a
user.   So this is happening on *2* different servers, what in the world?!

I did find this
(
http://www.kevintaber.com/2012/08/31/adobe-flash-player-11-4-causes-ie-9-to

http://www.kevintaber.com/2012/08/31/adobe-flash-player-11-4-causes-ie-9-to
-not-load-flash-sites/) but...  his explanation to load an older Flash isn't
working for me at all. 

Any help here?


Jesse



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Uggg -- Flash 11.4 on RDS (terminal services)

2012-10-02 Thread Jesse Rink
So at first I thought I was going crazy.  I have a 2008 R2 terminal server
(RDS) that hadn't been updated in many months.  It was running an older
version of Adobe Flash (no, I don't remember which version but something
PRE-June 2012 at least).  In late September, some of the users were saying
that certain websites required a newer version of flash in order to view the
site properly (mostly kid's learning sites).   So I updated Flash to the
latest 11.4 version on the 2008 R2 RDS box.  (I did use the change user
/install command before updating Flash.

Since then, nothing but problems.  Anyone aside from the Administrator
cannot properly browse websites.  Going to msn.com, Microsoft.com,
abcya.com, and pretty much ANYTHING that isn't just some basic static
website, takes literally 8-10 minutes to load.  At first I thought the users
were crazy but, after some testing, I was able to verify this was true.  I
uninstalled Flash, and geez, all the problems with websites loading slow is
FIXED.   If I try to reinstall Flash 11.4, the same thing happens, websites
take forever to load.

I thought maybe my 2008 R2 RDS box was messed up so I built a brand new 2008
R2 RDS server. Loaded up Office 2007, Adobe Reader, and a few other apps
that are on the older RDS box.  Then installed Flash 11.4.  Initially,
everything seemed to be working.  Then after a reboot (or maybe 2?), the
EXACT same thing starts happening.  Administrator can access websites fine,
but users cannot, they just have to wait and wait... This happens when the
internet pipe is NOT even 1% utilized.   On this brand new RDS server,
uninstalling Flash 11.4 once again FIXES the problem.  Yet, I need Flash on
it because it's used on a small school lab for learning sites, ughh.

I've tried installing OLDER versions of Flash (11.3, 10.3, etc.) on the new
RDS box after having uninstalled 11.4, but when the older versions are
installed, I cannot even pass the Flash Tests (do you have Flash on your
machine?) from the Adobe site, whether logged in as an administrator or a
user.   So this is happening on *2* different servers, what in the world?!

I did find this
(http://www.kevintaber.com/2012/08/31/adobe-flash-player-11-4-causes-ie-9-to
-not-load-flash-sites/) but...  his explanation to load an older Flash isn't
working for me at all. 

Any help here?


Jesse



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RE: Uggg -- Flash 11.4 on RDS (terminal services)

2012-10-02 Thread Jesse Rink
Let me also add that...  Installing Flash 11.4 with Firefox isn't
problematic at all.  Everything works as it should when accessing websites
(Flash and non-Flash sites) via Firefox 15.  The issues below seem directly
related to IE9.   I guess for now I will just ask users to use Firefox on
the 2008 R2 RDS box instead of IE9 since that seems to at least not exhibit
the awful slow browsing speeds.

Jesse


-Original Message-
From: Jesse Rink [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Uggg -- Flash 11.4 on RDS (terminal services)

So at first I thought I was going crazy.  I have a 2008 R2 terminal server
(RDS) that hadn't been updated in many months.  It was running an older
version of Adobe Flash (no, I don't remember which version but something
PRE-June 2012 at least).  In late September, some of the users were saying
that certain websites required a newer version of flash in order to view the
site properly (mostly kid's learning sites).   So I updated Flash to the
latest 11.4 version on the 2008 R2 RDS box.  (I did use the change user
/install command before updating Flash.

Since then, nothing but problems.  Anyone aside from the Administrator
cannot properly browse websites.  Going to msn.com, Microsoft.com,
abcya.com, and pretty much ANYTHING that isn't just some basic static
website, takes literally 8-10 minutes to load.  At first I thought the users
were crazy but, after some testing, I was able to verify this was true.  I
uninstalled Flash, and geez, all the problems with websites loading slow is
FIXED.   If I try to reinstall Flash 11.4, the same thing happens, websites
take forever to load.

I thought maybe my 2008 R2 RDS box was messed up so I built a brand new 2008
R2 RDS server. Loaded up Office 2007, Adobe Reader, and a few other apps
that are on the older RDS box.  Then installed Flash 11.4.  Initially,
everything seemed to be working.  Then after a reboot (or maybe 2?), the
EXACT same thing starts happening.  Administrator can access websites fine,
but users cannot, they just have to wait and wait... This happens when the
internet pipe is NOT even 1% utilized.   On this brand new RDS server,
uninstalling Flash 11.4 once again FIXES the problem.  Yet, I need Flash on
it because it's used on a small school lab for learning sites, ughh.

I've tried installing OLDER versions of Flash (11.3, 10.3, etc.) on the new
RDS box after having uninstalled 11.4, but when the older versions are
installed, I cannot even pass the Flash Tests (do you have Flash on your
machine?) from the Adobe site, whether logged in as an administrator or a
user.   So this is happening on *2* different servers, what in the world?!

I did find this
(http://www.kevintaber.com/2012/08/31/adobe-flash-player-11-4-causes-ie-9-to
-not-load-flash-sites/) but...  his explanation to load an older Flash isn't
working for me at all. 

Any help here?


Jesse



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Smoothwall passing through MS PPTP VPN?

2012-08-15 Thread Jesse Rink
Have a small customer that wants to allow VPN access through their
Smoothwall filter/firewall (Smoothwall, NOT Sonicwall).   Routing and Remote
Access (RRAS) is setup and enabled on the Windows 2008 R2 DC.  I was able to
connect through VPN to the RRAS server's IP when INSIDE their network
(onsite).  Smoothwall techs (it was a brand new install/box) created a port
forwarding rule to allow port 1723 traffic from the internet to the RRAS
server.  However, when I got home, I am not able to VPN in correctly.  I get
an 806 error with my VPN connection and it just sits for awhile on the
'verifying user name and password' message.   the user I'm using is the same
one that VPN worked with while on-site for testing.

 

Likely this is still a firewall issue from what I'm thinking.  anyone else
with a Smoothwall filter/firewall that can verify if we need to open up
anything additional such as GRE port 47 or something for Windows RRAS VPN
with PPTP?

 

Thanks

J

 

 

 

 

From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address

 

AKA fishing lesson J

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address

 

I have a theory. Often when Mr. Smith asks a question he isn't looking for
an answer to that question, he is pointing you towards the answer for your
problem.

 

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address

 

Yup. When we decommissioned the old server this server replaced, some
devices were still looking for it for DNS (they had static settings). So we
assigned the old server's address to the new one as a second address.

 

 

John

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address

 

Your DC has multiple IP addresses?

 

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address

 

Oh, and to add. Each of my sites has its own DNS server. All other DNS
servers are resolving this address fine. All servers are behind the same
firewall.

 

Curiouser and curiouser.

 

 

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DNS Lookup Failing for One Address

 

Per the suggestions from the list, I put dig on my squirrely DNS server and
ran dig +trace www.studyisland.com. Results are:

 

===

;  DiG 9.3.2  +trace www.studyisland.com

;; global options:  printcmd

.   19740   IN  NS  b.root-servers.net.

.   19740   IN  NS  c.root-servers.net.

.   19740   IN  NS  d.root-servers.net.

.   19740   IN  NS  e.root-servers.net.

.   19740   IN  NS  f.root-servers.net.

.   19740   IN  NS  g.root-servers.net.

.   19740   IN  NS  h.root-servers.net.

.   19740   IN  NS  i.root-servers.net.

.   19740   IN  NS  j.root-servers.net.

.   19740   IN  NS  k.root-servers.net.

.   19740   IN  NS  l.root-servers.net.

.   19740   IN  NS  m.root-servers.net.

.   19740   IN  NS  a.root-servers.net.

;; Received 449 bytes from 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) in 15 ms

 

com.172800  IN  NS  g.gtld-servers.net.

com.172800  IN  NS  m.gtld-servers.net.

com.172800  IN  NS  e.gtld-servers.net.

com.172800  IN  NS  j.gtld-servers.net.

com.172800  IN  NS  k.gtld-servers.net.

com.172800  IN  NS  d.gtld-servers.net.

com.172800  IN  NS  a.gtld-servers.net.

com.172800  IN  NS  c.gtld-servers.net.

com.172800  IN  NS  f.gtld-servers.net.

com.172800  IN  NS  h.gtld-servers.net.

com.172800  IN  NS  b.gtld-servers.net.

com.172800  IN  NS  l.gtld-servers.net.

com.172800  IN  NS  i.gtld-servers.net.

;; Received 509 bytes from 192.33.4.12#53(c.root-servers.net) in 46 ms

 

studyisland.com.172800  IN  NS
aldfwprdinf001.archipelagolearni

ng.com.

studyisland.com.172800  IN  NS
aldfwcrpinf001.archipelagolearni

RE: SBS 2003 to 2011

2012-07-04 Thread Jesse Rink
I’ve just read a lot of people complaining with the MS migration method and
nearly all of them say, “I wish I had done a clean install instead…” by the
time the headaches end.   No AS400 and very few 3rd party applications, etc.
A colleague of mine did the MS method awhile back and had nothing but
problems. A 1 day customer visit turned into 4-5 days… I’ve no interest in
that, lol.  

 

 

From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 12:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: SBS 2003 to 2011

 

Probably good if you don’t have any third party software like AS400
connections or other to  recreate.

 

The horror story looks to me exaggerate and probably due  to the will to
skip some MS advices

 

 

Guido Elia

HELPPC - HELPPC SERVICE

  _  

Da: Jesse Rink [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Inviato: mercoledì 4 luglio 2012 18.19
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: SBS 2003 to 2011

 

Customer purchased a brand new server to replacing aging SBS 2003 box.  I
have been going through the Microsoft SBS 2003 - SBS 2011 migration
document and it’s very lengthy and seems time consuming.  I have also read a
LOT of horror stories for this migration process and have a colleague who
went through it a few months back and said it was awful.   

 

It seems like, based on the problems people face when attempting the
migration process, it’d be easier, and take FAR fewer hours, to just set the
new SBS 2011 box up as a new domain by itself.  This way I don’t even have
to touch the old SBS 2003 server at all (even upgrading it with all the
required service packs and patches for the MS migration process might take
hours, geez).  So I’m thinking…

 

1.  Build new SBS 2011 physical server and setup new domain.

2.  Setup new Sonic Wall firewall for internet access (replaces ISA
2004)

3.  Login to each of the 9-10 user machines/laptops as the user and….

a.   Backup their Exchange email to a PST file

b.  Document mapped drives and locations

c.   Backup their internet Favorites

d.  …what else might I be missing here?

4.  Begin copying over files/data from various network shares/folders
from SBS 2003 server to SBS 2011 server and re-create folder shares, setup
NTFS permissions, etc.

5.  Re-create each of the 9-10 user accounts in the new SBS 2011 domain

6.  Un-join each of the 9-10 user machines/laptops from old SBS 2003
domain

7.  Join each of the 9-10 user machines/laptops to the new SBS 2011
domain

8.  Login to each of the 9-10 user machines/laptops as the user and….

a.   Import their PST file into the SBS 2011 server

b.  Re-create mapped drives

c.   Restore Internet Favorites

d.  …what else might I be missing here?

9.  Re-install GFI anti-spam software on SBS 2011 server (was previously
installed on SBS 2003)

10.  They have 3 member-servers running 2008.  I would also need to un-join
those from the SBS 2003 domain and join them to the new SBS 2011 domain.  

11.  Missing anything else?

 

Seems like a workable plan which I can do over a Friday/Saturday…   I’ve
heard so many horror stories about the Microsoft method that I’m very leary
about doing it (this is just one example of MANY issues like this I’ve read
about: http://www.jephens.com/2011/07/29/upgrading-sbs-2003-to-sbs-2011/) 

 

In my scenario of just building a new domain, am I missing anything in my
steps 1-12?

 

Thanks

J

 

 

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RE: strange hosted app issue

2011-10-11 Thread Jesse Rink
Ha.  Now that's something I hadn't considered they might be doing.  Doubt
there's a way for me to get them to fess up however if they were.  They were
vague about what they specifically changed.


J

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 7:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: strange hosted app issue

 

The stopped shaping the traffic? :-)

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jesse Rink jesse-r...@wi.rr.com wrote:

FWIW,
Looks like the ISP was at fault.  While they (ISP) won't tell us what they
did specifically, they did mention 'adjusted some routing' and hmm well,
things are very much improved and working as expected suddenly.  Wish I knew
what they did or what they changed...

J




-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 7:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: strange hosted app issue

Yeah Ngrep and Wireshakr Pcap files, you can basically dig a lot out of
network traffic and be on your way to figuring out what this POS app is
doing to you.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org mailto:email%3aezi...@lifespan.org 
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: strange hosted app issue

+1 billion...

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 20:58, Steve Kradel skra...@zetetic.net wrote:
 Without knowing any detail at all about this situation, my first
 instinct would be to fire up Wireshark and observe what protocols and
 patterns the client and server use to communicate.  Perhaps someone
 has decided to brew up an UDP-based RPC protocol because it's
 faster... and which poops itself on a congested network.  Almost
 anything is fair game if this thing is thicker than a web app.

 Read enough Wireshark captures and it will start to make sense to
 you--and you'll learn a lot about all sorts of (eventually) useful
 topics along the way.

 --Steve

 On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 5:29 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
 jesse-r...@wi.rr.com wrote:
 some good info here edward, thanks.  i will look at the fiddler app you
 mentioned.

 i've also used wireshark from time to time, but have a hard to following
 the network conversations and have it provide anything meaningful to me
 (due to lack of knowledge of what to be looking for in the conversation).
 I've used wireless successfully for determine issues with ping/dhcp, etc.
 but, for application monitoring, there's where my knowledge level isn't
 quite as handy when looking at wireshark.

 but good info here nonetheless, appreciate it.


 Original Message:
 -
 From: Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org
 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 16:15:46 -0400
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: strange hosted app issue


 OK if the apps is hosted on the internet, is it safe to assume it's a
 web-based application? If so, it probably invokes Java on the
 workstation to do some of its function. Java, Unfortuntely, is a
 notorious PIG of an application, which could be leading to some of your
 application issues ( especially if the code being called within the web
 session and interacting with the java instance to do its bidding isn't
 optimized)

 You can look at the web-traffic happening on a client by using the
 FIDDLER HTTP Debugging Browser plugin for IE/Firefox,

 www.fiddler2.com http://www.fiddler2.com/ 

 Which if it's a web application will let you know exactly what is
 happening in the browser, and the response from the server ( or if you
 are seeing 400x or 500x errors ( Client side and Server side issues)

 The other thing you will probably want to put on a representative
 workstation is Wireshark, and do a sniff while you are working with the
 web application, and see if you are getting timeouts, a high number of
 retransmissions, or resets ( which means you got congestion, bandwidth
 issues, drive issues, packet loss etc etc, that you need to deal with at
 Layer 2-3, before you really see what is happening at layer 7)

 Also the thing you really need to see is what the traffic metrics and
 types for what is coming in and out of the internet pipe ( maybe using
 NTOP or other bandwidth analysis tools) which could give some insight
 about the traffic types, and the source IP's. Could be a lot of
 bit-torrent activity or dropbox, or Audit Streaming, or Malicious
 malware based traffic ( someone is using you as a amplifying site, or
 with Skype you might have just become a SUPERNODE and others are pointed
 your way which you might not know)

 Again a lot of possibilities, I am sure these aren't the only things you
 could look at but it's a good start.

 Z


 Edward E. Ziots
 CISSP, Network +, Security +
 Security Engineer
 Lifespan Organization
 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org mailto:email%3aezi...@lifespan.org 
 Cell:401-639-3505



 -Original

RE: Anyone using DPM?

2011-10-11 Thread Jesse Rink
I've recently used it at a customer for about 2 months now.   I find the
product to be really good in some areas, but severely lacking (mainly
documentation, and getting help troubleshooting specific problems) in other
areas.  For me, it was very confusing to setup/configure and really
understand what is going on and how backups work - coming from 10+ years
using Backup Exec or other products.  I'm still on the fence whether I like
DPM or not.

 

J

 

From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone using DPM?

 

That's Data Protection Manager

 

Any experiences are welcome.  Do you like it?  Hate it?  How big is your
deployment?  Any field servers involved?  How does it compare to Netbackup
and/or CommVault? (those are the other two I'm personally familiar with)

 

Thanks,

 

Joe

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RE: strange hosted app issue

2011-10-10 Thread Jesse Rink
FWIW,
Looks like the ISP was at fault.  While they (ISP) won't tell us what they did 
specifically, they did mention 'adjusted some routing' and hmm well, things are 
very much improved and working as expected suddenly.  Wish I knew what they did 
or what they changed...

J



-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 7:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: strange hosted app issue

Yeah Ngrep and Wireshakr Pcap files, you can basically dig a lot out of network 
traffic and be on your way to figuring out what this POS app is doing to you. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: strange hosted app issue

+1 billion...

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 20:58, Steve Kradel skra...@zetetic.net wrote:
 Without knowing any detail at all about this situation, my first
 instinct would be to fire up Wireshark and observe what protocols and
 patterns the client and server use to communicate.  Perhaps someone
 has decided to brew up an UDP-based RPC protocol because it's
 faster... and which poops itself on a congested network.  Almost
 anything is fair game if this thing is thicker than a web app.

 Read enough Wireshark captures and it will start to make sense to
 you--and you'll learn a lot about all sorts of (eventually) useful
 topics along the way.

 --Steve

 On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 5:29 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
 jesse-r...@wi.rr.com wrote:
 some good info here edward, thanks.  i will look at the fiddler app you
 mentioned.

 i've also used wireshark from time to time, but have a hard to following
 the network conversations and have it provide anything meaningful to me
 (due to lack of knowledge of what to be looking for in the conversation).
 I've used wireless successfully for determine issues with ping/dhcp, etc.
 but, for application monitoring, there's where my knowledge level isn't
 quite as handy when looking at wireshark.

 but good info here nonetheless, appreciate it.


 Original Message:
 -
 From: Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org
 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 16:15:46 -0400
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: strange hosted app issue


 OK if the apps is hosted on the internet, is it safe to assume it's a
 web-based application? If so, it probably invokes Java on the
 workstation to do some of its function. Java, Unfortuntely, is a
 notorious PIG of an application, which could be leading to some of your
 application issues ( especially if the code being called within the web
 session and interacting with the java instance to do its bidding isn't
 optimized)

 You can look at the web-traffic happening on a client by using the
 FIDDLER HTTP Debugging Browser plugin for IE/Firefox,

 www.fiddler2.com

 Which if it's a web application will let you know exactly what is
 happening in the browser, and the response from the server ( or if you
 are seeing 400x or 500x errors ( Client side and Server side issues)

 The other thing you will probably want to put on a representative
 workstation is Wireshark, and do a sniff while you are working with the
 web application, and see if you are getting timeouts, a high number of
 retransmissions, or resets ( which means you got congestion, bandwidth
 issues, drive issues, packet loss etc etc, that you need to deal with at
 Layer 2-3, before you really see what is happening at layer 7)

 Also the thing you really need to see is what the traffic metrics and
 types for what is coming in and out of the internet pipe ( maybe using
 NTOP or other bandwidth analysis tools) which could give some insight
 about the traffic types, and the source IP's. Could be a lot of
 bit-torrent activity or dropbox, or Audit Streaming, or Malicious
 malware based traffic ( someone is using you as a amplifying site, or
 with Skype you might have just become a SUPERNODE and others are pointed
 your way which you might not know)

 Again a lot of possibilities, I am sure these aren't the only things you
 could look at but it's a good start.

 Z


 Edward E. Ziots
 CISSP, Network +, Security +
 Security Engineer
 Lifespan Organization
 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
 Cell:401-639-3505



 -Original Message-
 From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:26 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: strange hosted app issue

 Finding this issue to be a bit perplexing.

 Have an application that is hosted on the internet.  App uses a java
 interface run on the client machines (both PC and Mac and even iPads).
 The
 app sometimes takes forever to load up and users often get booted from
 it
 during normal use of the app (if they can even get into the app).  Using
 the hosted app off-hours never shows any 

Any Cisco ASA experts here?

2011-01-04 Thread Jesse Rink
I'm stuck on an issue with getting VPN working on my Cisco ASA.  It was
previously working... Now broke.  Anyone willing to contact me offline to
help me out for 10 minutes or so?  Rather not post the information
publically here due to security reasons.  I can't seem to get VPN working
for either the Cisco VPN Client or the Web Client.   Send an email direct,
thanks.

J





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show arp table on netgear GS716T?

2010-11-15 Thread jesse-rink
I'm not very familiar with these Netgear switches.  Is there a way to view the 
arp table? I can't find it in the web interface.. Not even sure if there's a 
command line interface on this device?

I need to locate where a machine is with a given IP address.. any tips on this 
netgear gs716t box?

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RE: show arp table on netgear GS716T?

2010-11-15 Thread Jesse Rink
Hmm odd..  I could not telnet into the box at all.  Oh well.

-Original Message-
From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: show arp table on netgear GS716T?

According to the index in the FM that you could RT, there is a CLI presented 
when you telnet to the device, and there's a CLI command show 
mac-address-table.

Unfortunately, the manual fails to describe any of the CLI commands that are 
referenced in the index... the pages referenced do not exist in the manual.  
Netgear quality at its finest.

Carl

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From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 3:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: show arp table on netgear GS716T?

I'm not very familiar with these Netgear switches.  Is there a way to view the 
arp table? I can't find it in the web interface.. Not even sure if there's a 
command line interface on this device?

I need to locate where a machine is with a given IP address.. any tips on this 
netgear gs716t box?

Thanks



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RE: Loooooong ping times

2010-11-15 Thread Jesse Rink
I'd recommend this as well.I've had issues at various clients where they
could only download at a fraction of their available internet speed
available and it always turns out they have multiple port mismatch errors
(duplexing and speed) between the internet handoff, firewall, and potential
in-line web filters.   Granted that's sort of the opposite of what you're
experiencing but.  Worth a mention I thought.

 

J



 

From: Dennis Hoefer [mailto:dhoe...@ufcoop.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 6:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Loong ping times

 

I'd start with disconnecting from your SonicWall, configuring and connecting
a laptop direct, firewall up of course, and see if you still see the latency
issues.  Assuming you do, you've pretty much eliminated your network as an
issue and need to point the finger at Comcast..  

 

From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 5:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Loong ping times

 

Hi peoples,

 

I have a weird issue, and I've had it for about 3 weeks (don't worry, it's
work related!)

 

Our Internet connection has been really slow. Web sites time out half the
time, and just load really slowly other times.

 

Our connection is a Comcast connection, and I called then to see if they
could test the speed. They did, and it seemed okay to them, but then said
that we had an old cable modem. They replaced the modem, but it made no
difference.

 

When I use speedtest.net, or speedtest.comcast.net. I usually get good
throughput times (36 Mbps up, 7 Mbps down) but I get a ping time that is
almost ALWAYS 3146 ms. Sometimes it's 3147, sometimes it's 3145, but it's
3146 90% of the time. Weird, huh?!

 

So, I went to my SonicWALL and unchecked the check box that was set to
enable the DHCP server. I thought maybe having two DHCP servers (the
SonicWALL and my own internal DHCP server) was an issue. I don't even know
why the DHCP server was enabled on the firewall.

 

So I disabled that, and I'm still having the same issue - very long ping
times, though now it's somewhat intermittent. At times, I get a ping time of
72ms, and the others, it's right back to 3146,

 

So my question is, where should I be looking to fix this? Essentially, I
have two DNS servers, one DHCP server (not including the SonicWALL,) Then I
have our firewall, and then the cable modem. That's it.

 

Help? I have no clue how to troubleshoot this. 

 

Evan

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Re: Switch Issue?

2010-10-20 Thread jesse-rink
Is your iSCSI on a seperate physical switch?  Most iSCSI deployments I do are 
on their own isolated switch so if that's the case, I can't see your iSCSI 
storage issue being related to the other stuff?  If they do share the same 
switch, then it's possibe yes.  Did you try updating firmware on the 2824?  
That's an older switch so maybe your revision very old revisions?

Any chance you have an issue with broadcast storms causing outages on the 
switch?

Anyways, I'd drop in a new switch temporarily and see if things clear up...


 Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: 
 So here's my array of problems:
 
 1.   Exchange 2003 db's corrupt (block storage provided by iSCSI). Fix 
 that.
 
 2.   Activesync shits the bed? Still busted
 
 3.   Buy OVS from ms, migrate everything (fresh). Activesync still busted.
 
 4.   Mail to postfix gateway having issues?
 
 5.   One genre of wkst's having sporadic issues with connectivity? 
 Install e1000 nic, WORKS!
 
 6.   My laptop, been working is now having intermittent dns issues? UDP? 
 Problematic over shitty connections...
 
 Maybe my switch is fsck'ed?
 
 Whats a good replacement for a HP 2824, I'd love to have a layer level better 
 but I think its to pricey?
 
 Thanks!
 jlc
 
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Re: Switch Issue?

2010-10-20 Thread jesse-rink
I've been using procurve and their support for 10 years now and never knew they 
had online support?  Ha.  I always just call in...  Though, I do admit I hate 
the notion of online support for generating tickets.  I still prefer speaking 
with someone directly I guess and always feel any online helpdesk request will 
just get ignored.  This isn't just for HP though, I'm that way with any vendor, 
lol.


 Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: 
 On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Joseph L. Casale
 jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
  I am on hold now, forever it seemsL
 
   I've had good luck with their web-to-email ticket submission thing.
 Submit a show tech all dump log with the ticket and  they can do
 quite a bit of analysis right away.
 
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Re: Switch Issue?

2010-10-20 Thread jesse-rink
Hmm.  I've always just figured helpdesk request tickets get put at the bottom 
of the priority scale.  Easier to ignore them than the guy screaming into the 
phone, my switch is broke arghh

:)

 Jeff Steward jstew...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I like the web interface for the same reason Ben suggests.  Step one of most
 troubleshooting with the vendor will involve 'run our diagnostic dump
 utility and mail us the results'.  I do that first and submit it with the
 initial ticket so when I get my callback it is much more productive.
 
 Not to mention I like getting my ticket number in electronic format :)
 
 -Jeff Steward
 
 On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:39 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com wrote:
 
  I've been using procurve and their support for 10 years now and never knew
  they had online support?  Ha.  I always just call in...  Though, I do admit
  I hate the notion of online support for generating tickets.  I still prefer
  speaking with someone directly I guess and always feel any online helpdesk
  request will just get ignored.  This isn't just for HP though, I'm that way
  with any vendor, lol.
 
 
   Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Joseph L. Casale
   jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
I am on hold now, forever it seemsL
  
 I've had good luck with their web-to-email ticket submission thing.
   Submit a show tech all dump log with the ticket and  they can do
   quite a bit of analysis right away.
  
   -- Ben
  
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Oh no, not again!

2010-10-18 Thread jesse-rink
Seems like this is something brought up every now and then... and I hate 
bringing it up againt BUT...

I have a small client that is interested in putting together a small/basic 
disaster recovery plan for their IT department.  Anyone know of any fairly 
decent boiler templates or examples of this?  It's for a 'small' sized client, 
not for a major data-center or anything like that.  I remember seeing something 
a year or two ago regarding this but have since lost the information, argh.

Thanks.
J


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RE: Oh no, not again!

2010-10-18 Thread jesse-rink
I realize that, but I'm moreso after that 'typical' things you might find in a 
disaster recovery document and the basics to include.
I'll check out the links, thanks.

J


 Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Especially in small arenas, there is no one size fits all plan, all are 
 unique situations.
 
 Check out the links on http://www.scpa-us.org and http://www.drii.org for help
 
 
 Erik Goldoff
 IT  Consultant
 Systems, Networks,  Security 
 
 '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
 Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:11 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Oh no, not again!
 
 Seems like this is something brought up every now and then... and I hate 
 bringing it up againt BUT...
 
 I have a small client that is interested in putting together a small/basic 
 disaster recovery plan for their IT department.  Anyone know of any fairly 
 decent boiler templates or examples of this?  It's for a 'small' sized 
 client, not for a major data-center or anything like that.  I remember seeing 
 something a year or two ago regarding this but have since lost the 
 information, argh.
 
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BackExec 2010 - dedupe?

2010-10-11 Thread jesse-rink
Is de-duplication included in Backupexec 2010 at no additional cost?  I saw a 
video from Symantec that said it was included, but then I read a .pdf document 
that said it was a option for purchase.?  

Can anyone clarify?  ...And if you've used it, input is welcome on whether it 
works as expected or tends to work like most Symantec stuff (not quite as 
advertised).

J


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outbound smtp broke (connection to host lost)

2010-10-04 Thread jesse-rink
Stuck on this one.

(1) Exch 2003 server that is my SMTP outbound connector
(1) Exch 2007 server that only hosts mailboxes

For some reason my Exch 2003 server stopped sending outbound emails on Friday.  
All messages are getting stuck in the queue and show the connection was 
dropped by the remote host when I look at the queue.  I made sure that our 
outgoing IP (24.56.73.162) is NOT on spamhaus or other blacklist.  So 
everything looks good there.

If I try telneting from the Exch 2003 server, it opens successfully to a 
destination mail server, but as soon as I try typing H (for Helo), it 
disconnects with a connection to host lost message in the command prompt.  

I also, just for test purposes, tried telneting from the Exch 2007 server (even 
though it does NOT deliver outbound mail at this time, it only forwards stuff 
to the Exch 2003 smtp connector), to various mail servers and the SAME thing 
happens from the 2007 server.  I can telnet, but after typing H, the 
connection to host is lost.

What's more interesting is, on my local machine, I CAN telnet into any internet 
mail server and typing H does NOT drop the connection at all.

I'm doubting it's a firewall issue because telnet isnt blocking the telnet 
session from Exch 2003.  I'm doubting we're on spamhaus, etc. (checked the 
spamhaus.org website to be sure), and my ISP says it's not them dropping the 
connection..  So

Any ideas?
Thanks.




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eopen - grrr

2010-09-28 Thread jesse-rink
Argh.  

I'm on-site at a customer hoping to install a new application per their request 
that requires SQL 2008.  They have the SQL license from MS (auth # and license 
#), but when putting this info into MS' licensing eopen website, it now says I 
have to wait 24 hours to get the license ADDED to my list of avialable 
licenses/software. 

Seriously?  We waited days already for MS to process the license, and now that 
we have the license, we have to wait 24 hours to download SQL 2008?

Is there any way to speed this up?  Can I install the 120 day trial version of 
SQL and convert it to the full licensed version later?  Customer needs the new 
application/SQL installed today while I'm on site Bah.

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2008 server crash!

2010-07-08 Thread jesse-rink
I have a Windows 2008 x32 server (HP Proliant ML310 G5p) that just crashed.  
When booting, its giving me a C00218 error (the registry cannot load the 
hive, etc.).  The server is also a domain controller.

Few things to note:
1. I have other DCs in this domain so I'm not so concerned about that.
2. Logical disks setup was a RAID 1 array (containing OS), and a RAID 0 array 
(1 single disk - used as the Windows 2008 backup device)
3. I should have a valid data backup on the single logical disk (raid 0)

I was condidering reinstalling the OS using HP Smart Start CD, but I am leary 
in that I believe using Smart Start to reinstall the OS will WIPE the RAID 1 
array and data on it, I do NOT want to do this. I'm having difficult getting 
clarification from HP whether I can use Smart Start WITHOUT touching the 
partitioning/data (english is a problem).

What would you recommend?  

My first thought is to try and install Windows 2008 manually from a CD to a new 
directory (c:\windows2).  Once the OS is built, I should have an idea whether 
the data on the disk is corrupt, and if necessary, restore from the backup disk 
(located on the single physical disk in a raid0 array).

My second thought is to boot from a Windows 2008 CD into the recovery console 
and try a disk repair, etc.?  It's been years since I done this so I'm kind of 
fuzzy on the process, but I vaguely recall this is something that can be done?

Ideas welcome.





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Re: 2008 server crash!

2010-07-08 Thread jesse-rink
This was a backup using Windows 2008 Server Backup tool.  It does a shadow copy 
backup basically.  I have NEVER done a restore using this program yet, only 
just started using the Windows 2008 Backup tool (I mostly use Symantec 
BackupExec for my major server, but this smaller one we opted for Window 2008 
Server Backup tool built in to the OS).

No software raid. ALL hardware RAID.  RAID 1 for the OS, and a single disk 
(RAID 0) for the backup drive (there is NO drive letter for this drive as 
Windows 2008 backup tool somehow controls the drive WITHOUT making a drive 
letter... its kinda odd)


 Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: 
 First question I would have was what type of backup did you do?  Did you do
 files or did you do the image.  If it was an image I beleive you start from
 a CD and tell it to restore the image from backup.  If it was files then you
 will need to know what the Smart Start will and will not do.  Was this a
 software RAID?
 
 Jon
 
 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:26 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com wrote:
 
  I have a Windows 2008 x32 server (HP Proliant ML310 G5p) that just crashed.
   When booting, its giving me a C00218 error (the registry cannot load
  the hive, etc.).  The server is also a domain controller.
 
  Few things to note:
  1. I have other DCs in this domain so I'm not so concerned about that.
  2. Logical disks setup was a RAID 1 array (containing OS), and a RAID 0
  array (1 single disk - used as the Windows 2008 backup device)
  3. I should have a valid data backup on the single logical disk (raid 0)
 
  I was condidering reinstalling the OS using HP Smart Start CD, but I am
  leary in that I believe using Smart Start to reinstall the OS will WIPE the
  RAID 1 array and data on it, I do NOT want to do this. I'm having difficult
  getting clarification from HP whether I can use Smart Start WITHOUT touching
  the partitioning/data (english is a problem).
 
  What would you recommend?
 
  My first thought is to try and install Windows 2008 manually from a CD to a
  new directory (c:\windows2).  Once the OS is built, I should have an idea
  whether the data on the disk is corrupt, and if necessary, restore from the
  backup disk (located on the single physical disk in a raid0 array).
 
  My second thought is to boot from a Windows 2008 CD into the recovery
  console and try a disk repair, etc.?  It's been years since I done this so
  I'm kind of fuzzy on the process, but I vaguely recall this is something
  that can be done?
 
  Ideas welcome.
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: 2008 server crash!

2010-07-08 Thread jesse-rink
Odd.  When I spoke with HP tech, they said that it WILL delete the data on the 
disk and they recommended NOT to reinstall the OS using smartstart.  I spoke 
with the basic HP tech for Proliant servers, and asked for Level 2 escalation, 
and that person confirmed it would delete the data...  (???)

Who knows...  I'm just using the Windows 2008 Restore feature right now 
anyways.  I will update everyone later when it's complete.

Hopefully it works as advertised.



 Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: 
 SmartStart won't erase the partitions/RAID config unless you tell it to. 
 There's a checkbox for it. Just wipe the RAID1 with the OS and everything 
 else should stay intact. 
 
 Thanks,
 Brian Desmond
 br...@briandesmond.com
 
 c   – 312.731.3132
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:27 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: 2008 server crash!
 
 I have a Windows 2008 x32 server (HP Proliant ML310 G5p) that just crashed.  
 When booting, its giving me a C00218 error (the registry cannot load the 
 hive, etc.).  The server is also a domain controller.
 
 Few things to note:
 1. I have other DCs in this domain so I'm not so concerned about that.
 2. Logical disks setup was a RAID 1 array (containing OS), and a RAID 0 array 
 (1 single disk - used as the Windows 2008 backup device) 3. I should have a 
 valid data backup on the single logical disk (raid 0)
 
 I was condidering reinstalling the OS using HP Smart Start CD, but I am leary 
 in that I believe using Smart Start to reinstall the OS will WIPE the RAID 1 
 array and data on it, I do NOT want to do this. I'm having difficult getting 
 clarification from HP whether I can use Smart Start WITHOUT touching the 
 partitioning/data (english is a problem).
 
 What would you recommend?  
 
 My first thought is to try and install Windows 2008 manually from a CD to a 
 new directory (c:\windows2).  Once the OS is built, I should have an idea 
 whether the data on the disk is corrupt, and if necessary, restore from the 
 backup disk (located on the single physical disk in a raid0 array).
 
 My second thought is to boot from a Windows 2008 CD into the recovery console 
 and try a disk repair, etc.?  It's been years since I done this so I'm kind 
 of fuzzy on the process, but I vaguely recall this is something that can be 
 done?
 
 Ideas welcome.
 
 
 
 
 
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 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


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RE: 2008 server crash!

2010-07-08 Thread jesse-rink
Some user data.  It's for a school...  They can't afford the luxury of a 
seperate AD box and a seperate File/Print/App box, so it's all lumped in one.  
The school is small.. 50 computers or so.  


 robbonfig...@gmail.com robbonfig...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I'm curious, what other data do you have on your Domain Controller other than 
 AD?
 -Original Message-
 Date: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:36:28 pm
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Cc: Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org
 From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
 Subject: RE: 2008 server crash!
 
 I don't care about active directory on the server.  I am concerned about the 
 DATA on the drive.
 
 
 
 
  Ziots wrote: 
  Honestly, If you have another DC, then I would follow the /forceremoval of 
  a Domain Controller per..
  
  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555846 (Covers Win2k3 and below)
  
  http://www.petri.co.il/delete_failed_dcs_from_ad.htm (Step by Step to 
  remove the DC)
  
  HTH
  
  Z
  
  Edward E. Ziots
  CISSP, Network +, Security +
  Network Engineer
  Lifespan Organization
  Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
  Cell:401-639-3505
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:27 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: 2008 server crash!
  
  I have a Windows 2008 x32 server (HP Proliant ML310 G5p) that just crashed. 
   When booting, its giving me a C00218 error (the registry cannot load 
  the hive, etc.).  The server is also a domain controller.
  
  Few things to note:
  1. I have other
 
 
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RE: 2008 server crash!

2010-07-08 Thread Jesse Rink
Well the restore only took an hour or less.   Server came right back up without 
any problems and all my data is there too.  AD replicated to the restored 
server (it wasn't the main DC with the FMSO roles) instantly and everything is 
good to go!  Thanks for the tips everyone.



-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: robbonfig...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: 2008 server crash!

Some user data.  It's for a school...  They can't afford the luxury of a 
seperate AD box and a seperate File/Print/App box, so it's all lumped in one.  
The school is small.. 50 computers or so.  


 robbonfig...@gmail.com robbonfig...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I'm curious, what other data do you have on your Domain Controller other than 
 AD?
 -Original Message-
 Date: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:36:28 pm
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Cc: Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org
 From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
 Subject: RE: 2008 server crash!
 
 I don't care about active directory on the server.  I am concerned about the 
 DATA on the drive.
 
 
 
 
  Ziots wrote: 
  Honestly, If you have another DC, then I would follow the /forceremoval of 
  a Domain Controller per..
  
  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555846 (Covers Win2k3 and below)
  
  http://www.petri.co.il/delete_failed_dcs_from_ad.htm (Step by Step to 
  remove the DC)
  
  HTH
  
  Z
  
  Edward E. Ziots
  CISSP, Network +, Security +
  Network Engineer
  Lifespan Organization
  Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
  Cell:401-639-3505
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:27 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: 2008 server crash!
  
  I have a Windows 2008 x32 server (HP Proliant ML310 G5p) that just crashed. 
   When booting, its giving me a C00218 error (the registry cannot load 
  the hive, etc.).  The server is also a domain controller.
  
  Few things to note:
  1. I have other
 
 
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RE: Anyone ever use one of these with VMWare

2010-04-07 Thread Jesse Rink
I have two in place.   Works well, but, you get what you pay for.
Performance is not very good with it.  I have also had a few issues with
iSCSI losing connection and the SAN needing to be restarted.

However, for the cost, it's nice.  But I wouldn't choose to run production
stuff on it.

JR


-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone ever use one of these with VMWare

http://www.buy.com/prod/iomega-storcenter-ix2-200-2tb-network-storage-se
rver-rj45-10-100/q/loc/101/212566005.html

Thought it may be nice for test dev at home.

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Second OS install on same physical hardware

2009-10-20 Thread Jesse Rink
It's been awhile since I have done this, so I want to make sure I'm not
forgetting anything particular.


I have a box running Server 2003.  If I install a second installation of
Windows on that server, in a separate Windows directory, once I bring the
new OS install up (using the same computername), and join it to the domain,
all my data directories (user files) should STILL be accessible as they were
under the old OS, correct?  As long as I recreate the share(s)?   I am
currently under the impression the NTFS file permissions will still be
exactly the same since the data files won't have changed at all, just the OS
itself.

(yes, I know that any/all applications running on the server and other stuff
would have to be reinstalled, but I'm not concerned about that right now,
JUST the user/data files)

J





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penetration testing/securiting auditing help...

2008-12-19 Thread Jesse Rink
I thought someone on this list may be interested in earning a little money
on the side for helping  my company with a little technical knowledge
transfer...  We are  looking for someone with experience to help us in the
following areas:

1. Man in the middle attacks, using Cain and Abel, to gain Windows
passwords.

2. Rainbow tables and how to use them.

3. Grabbing locally cached Windows domain passwords on a Windows
workstation.  (PWDumpX or similiar) 

We are trying to branch out into security auditing and penetration testing
and have done  a little of this in the past already, but our skillset isn't
extremely high in these above-listed areas.  I thought we might find someone
on the list who would be willing to work with one of our engineers over the
phone/email to answer questions, etc.

I wouldn't anticipate it would take more than 2-4 hours of your time for
this project...  A couple quick phone calls or email here and there over the
course of a couple days most likely. If you're interested, please contact me
OFF-LIST via email. .  Please include your experiences with  any of  the
above-mentioned items.

 

(I have been on this list for many many years, this is not some kind of
hacking-attempt.  It's for legitimate purposes and details can be provided
off-line).

Thanks much. 
 JR


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Re: SBS 2003 Setup Hanging - any thoughts on this one?

2008-12-16 Thread Jesse Rink
Just out of curiosity, if you try to download another manufacturers drivers and 
put them to disk, will SBS see those properly during the F6 process?  I'm just 
wondering if the thing you downloaded was corrupted or something.

USB floppies can also be an issue.  I've done this via USB floppy drives before 
(adding drivers via F6), but I've read that some servers have issue with the 
make/model of the USB floppy itself... Some work, some don't. ?


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Re: issue with accessing \\servername

2008-12-16 Thread Jesse Rink
Ok, a couple updates

I found out the following.  Servers in Site-A cannot be accessed at Site-B via 
\\servername, UNLESS the server in Site-A has a route added to it (persistent 
route or automatically added) for the network at Site-B.

Site-A is a 10.x.x.x., Site-B is a 192.168.x.x

Devices in Site-A have a gateway of 10.0.0.1.  The 10.0.0.1 device (which is an 
ISA firewall) has a persistent route added for 192.168.x.x that points to the 
10.0.0.254 site-to-site vpn router.

I tested this repeatedly, and as long as a server in Site-A has a persistent 
route added, *OR* as long as the server in Site-A has at LEAST tried to either 
PING a device on the 192.168.x.x network or tried to access a device on the 
192.168.x.x. network via SMB (shares, for instance) then the proper route 
statement automatically gets added to that servers routing table.   So in other 
words, even if it doesn't HAVE a persisntent route to 192.168.x.x via 
10.0.0.254, it CAN get one by pinging or accessing a server share in the 
192.168.x.x. network and KEEPS that route until the server is rebooted, loses 
network connection, or the route expires.

So... this makes me wonder.  If Server-5 does NOT have a persistent route to 
192.168.x.x at Site-B, and instead goes through it's normal gateway 10.0.0.1, a 
server in Site-B, CAN still ping Server-5.  Yet, cannot access the \\servername 
share, UNLESS Server-5 either a) first pings something in Site-B, b) accesses a 
server share in Site-B, or c) has a persistent route added for Site-B, or d) 
has the default gw changed from 10.0.0.1 to 10.0.0.254.   It almost seems like 
the 10.0.0.1 router is NOT doing it's job, but in a way, it seems to be, since 
pinging works between the sites.

I will call Vigor tech (vpn routers between the 2 sites) and see what they say.

I did some ping tests also, and found that trying to ping with packets larger 
than 3 over the VPN fail everytime.  29000 they work fine... 29500 they 
fail 50% of the time.  Not sure what that tells me though...

I'm considering just changing things arounds so that the default gw at site-A 
is 10.0.0.254 instead of 10.0.0.1... and changing the route statements on the 
vigor site-to-site vpn route to forward all 192.168.x.x traffic over the vpn, 
an the rest of it to 10.0.0.1 (the isa firewall). I'm thinking that SHOULD fix 
the issue.




On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:12 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
jesse-r...@wi.rr.com wrote:
 We have 2 sites/locations connected a site-to-site VPN...

  Try ping'ing with larger packet sizes.  Try multiple sizes, such as
500, 2000, 1, 3, 6, and 65500.  Might be an issue with
path MTU.  That's not uncommon with VPNs, since you're encapsulating
datagrams inside datagrams -- an already max-size datagram then won't
fit without fragmentation.  That wouldn't show up with the default
ping of 64 bytes.

  Could also be a name resolution issue.  I've seen name resolution
issues screw-up SMB, even when you give an IP address for the server
name.  Along those lines:

  Do you have WINS server(s) configured with all computers at all
sites using the same set of WINS server(s)?  If you are not using
WINS, do you have NetBIOS-over-TCP/IP force-disabled on all clients?

  Describe your DNS topology, including domains, nameservers, which
sites which nameservers are at, and which nameservers which clients
are configured to use.  You can substitute names if you want, but be
complete.

-- Ben


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vpn issue

2008-08-05 Thread Jesse Rink
I thought this was odd, but maybe it's normal?
 
My home network is on 192.168.1.0/24.  I have a device at 192.168.1.1 and
192.168.1.2 (router and a network printer).
 
When I VPN into another network on my Vista box, I am on their
192.168.1.0/24 network.  They have a server I RDP into at 192.168.1.2,
however, whenever I try to access that server, my Vista machine accesses the
Printer I have at 192.168.1.2 instead of the server over the VPN.  Is this
normal behaviour?  Just seems odd I have never run across this before in
that 10-20 places I VPN into... 

 

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RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

2008-07-22 Thread Jesse Rink
I've been running Destiny virtualized on ESX for serveral months.  Not a
single issue.
JR


  _  

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized?



This is Follett's Destiny product.

 

 

 

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

 

I am getting a 404 on that page what is the name of the product.  I had the
Winnebago card catalogue system running on a virtual machine for about a
year with no issues.

 

Jon

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:25 PM, John Hornbuckle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It's a program to use in school libraries for checking books in and out. It
uses an SQL database
(http://www.fsc.follett.com/_files/fsc/secured/system_requirements/Dest%20Sc
hool%20sys%20reqs%2010685A%20PDF%20print%207_08a%20(2).pdf).

 

We're a small district with small schools, and no app we've ever run on a
server has  come anywhere close to fully utilizing the hardware. That's one
of the reasons I want to virtualize more.

 

If the app will run on an XP server with a Pentium 4 processor, I can't
imagine that it would be overly demanding. But they do say they require RAID
1 or 5, so they must be counting on a fair amount of I/O activity. But I
wonder, what exactly is high I/O when it comes to figuring out if
something will run okay on a virtual server?

 

 

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:14 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized? 

 

Why would a product not work on a virtual server, well, one that is high
I/O, as in a database server would possibly not work.  What application
specifically are you looking at that says this?  

We've used virtual servers for probably 5 years now, and we've always taken
the approach that we will try it on a virtual server and if it doesn't work,
then go to physical.  So far, we're doing really good with that approach.
99% of what we've tried on a virtual server has worked.  Now to counter
that, we have always looked at what the application will be doing, evaluated
the requirements and load, and made the decision on whether or not it's a
good candidate for virtualization or not a good candidate for
virtualization.   

Now with that said, I do have a caveat, I've never used Hyper-V and probably
will never use it, we've been VMWare since we started with virtual server,
first GSX now the latest release of ESX.  So, I can't say how Hyper-V
utilizes system resources compared to ESX.

On 7/22/08, John Hornbuckle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was looking over the system requirements for a particular piece of
software we're looking at purchasing, and I noticed that it specifically
says it has to be on a physical (non-virtual) machine.

Now, this software doesn't have any special hardware requirements.
Processor requirements are modest, as are requirements for RAM and
storage space. And yet, the requirements explicitly say, Microsoft
Windows Server 2008 Standard or Enterprise without Hyper-V (if Server
2008 is the OS--it also supports Server 2003, XP, or Vista as the server
OS).

As I've mentioned before, I'm brand new to server virtualization. I'm
playing with Hyper-V right now for the first time. So, I'm sure I'm
missing something.

Why, exactly, would a product like this not work on a virtual server?




John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

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old hp equipment

2008-06-27 Thread Jesse Rink
Anyone know a place I might have luck getting old HP server equipment?
G3/G4 models?  More specifically a 641 RAID Controller with 192mb BBWC?  

 

I have a couple ML350 G3s laying around, but they come with 532 controllers,
and they have poor read performance, no write cache (not even an option).
Would like to upgrade the controllers if possible.

 

Let me know.  Thanks!

 

JR

 

 


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RE: ntbackup failures

2008-04-06 Thread Jesse Rink
FWIW, I also ran into the same problem with Delayed Writes backing up to a
USB drive with NTBackup.  In fact, the delayed write errors got so bad, it
corrupted my active directory on the server and I had to demote and promote
it to get it working again.  

What's odd as I have two identical servers (hardware specs) - both are
backed up to a USB drive.  Only one server has the delayed write errors
everytime I do backups.  It's odd.

The server is an older ML350 G3 model with a crappy 532 RAID controller
(32mb) with no write cache whatsoever.

JR


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez Castaños [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 7:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ntbackup failures

Hi,

  I have a SBS 2003 with SP1 server. I've been getting backups of the 
Exchange databases, however, I was getting errors in the validation of 
the ntbackup but now, I can't get any ntbackup to work.

  Now, after I have moved Sharepoint databases in other partition I 
solved issues that I had with very low space in the C drive.

  I'm getting these two errors:

  Event ID: 8001 Source: ntbackup   End Backup of 'C:' 'Warnings or 
errors were encountered.'

  Event ID: 12289 Source: VSS  Volume Shadow Copy Service error: 
Unexpected error 
DeviceIoControl(\\?\Volume{71969a8f-0f27-11da-9cb2-806e6f6e6963} - 
0130,0x0053c020,000390B8,0,000380B0,4096,[0]).  hr = 0x80070079.

  I'm getting errors in write delays when trying to run the ntbackup 
against an external USB drive

  I've requested to Microsoft this hotfix:

  http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=6294451

  Since I read this:

  
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/forumarchives/windowsserversbs/Dec2005/post254784
67.asp

  Am I looking at the right place?

  Thanks,

  Miguel


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MS eOpen website - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-04-02 Thread Jesse Rink
Is anyone else having problems with the MS eOpen website?  I have been
trying to download the Windows 2003 R2 CD for over 48 hours now after having
purchased the license for it and the stupid eOpen website is having service
temporarily unavailable issues when going to the link for software
downloads so I haven't been able to get this ISO file for my client.  It'd
delayed us 48 hours already in regards to building the server.   Getting
upset..  Bah.

 

JR




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RE: MS eOpen website - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-04-02 Thread Jesse Rink
No.  I don't have one.

 

My customer is getting really upset.  We cannot get this server built until
I get an ISO for 2003 R2 that will work with our license.   I've called
several times to the eOpen tech support phone # and finally asked for a
supervisor this time around, of which, none were available of course so I'm
awaiting a call back to find out what's up.  They can't even give me an ETA
on this.   Good grief.

 

JR



 

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From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS eOpen website - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Jesse, I've been seeing that issue for quite sometime. Not sure what is
going on with the eOpen site. Do you have a technet plus account? That was
my way around the issue.

 

From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS eOpen website - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Not sure if this helps but I was having the same issue getting to my license
site to dl a couple of cd images. I could even see my agreements but I
couldn't go any further. I called MS and the guy had me delete temp files
and cookies (IE7) and I went right in. I have had to this more than once
since.  

 

From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MS eOpen website - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Is anyone else having problems with the MS eOpen website?  I have been
trying to download the Windows 2003 R2 CD for over 48 hours now after having
purchased the license for it and the stupid eOpen website is having service
temporarily unavailable issues when going to the link for software
downloads so I haven't been able to get this ISO file for my client.  It'd
delayed us 48 hours already in regards to building the server.   Getting
upset..  Bah.

 

JR

 

 

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novell to microsoft migration

2008-03-16 Thread Jesse Rink
Anyone know any good sites that provide good information about migrating
from Novell to Microsoft?  Preferably sites with real world
information/experiences?



 

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caching server

2008-03-09 Thread Jesse Rink
I'm looking for ways to accomplish adding a caching server to the network.

Right now, one of my clients is a small K-8 school that is required to use a
web filtering product.  Right now, their web filtering is provided from
their ISP.  Client machines have their IE proxy settings set to this fqdn
internet address specified from their ISP.

While this works fine for web filtering, they would like to improve the
speed of their internet connection (3Mb) by the use of a caching server. 

What are my options if I want to add an internal web caching server but
still utilizing their web filter provided by the ISP?

Thanks.
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RE: File Size

2008-01-08 Thread Jesse Rink
Diskdata

 

 

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From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: File Size

 

 

What do you guys use to find large files and Folders on your Files Servers,
I tried TreeSize, any other recommendations?

 

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RE: Removing the Profile Path in AD == Now I cannot login

2008-01-02 Thread Jesse Rink
Out of curioisity, have you enabled the setting in GP that automatically
deletes the locally cached copy of the roaming profile after the user logs
out?  If you enable that, I would imagine it should clear up that problem.  

 

Have you tried this with more than one user account/PC?  IIRC it shouldn't
behave that way regardless. 

 

JR

 

 

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From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Removing the Profile Path in AD == Now I cannot login

 


Greetings,

If I had a Roaming Profile, then I removed the profile path in my Active
Directory account... Should I be able to login? Windows is reporting that it
can't find the server copy of my profile.

But, If I delete the profile from c:\documents and settings\username, I can
then login as a local profile.

So, the question: I want to convert a list of users (All in one OU) from
Roaming to Local profiles. I could log in on each computer and change type
in the My Computer - Properties - Advanced - User Profile pane, but I'd
have to do that for each user on each computer... Not something I feel like
doing on my 3 day weekend. Sm:)e.

Is there a way to force profiles of users to be Local Only? I see there is a
GPO for this, but it's for Computers, not for Users. Will it still work?

If I have to delete the profiles, I'm not worried about loosing data as the
user's data is located redirected Desktop and Document folders.

Thanks for any help.

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Time Sync to outside NTP server in NT4

2001-09-28 Thread Jesse Rink

I know I can get my NT workstation to sync time with my PDC or other
server when specified through a logon script... How do I get my PDC to
sync with a NTP server outside my network?  Using NET TIME only seems to
allow netbios names for the destination computer and not FQDNs.

Any idea?
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Folder as a document depository?

2001-08-28 Thread Jesse Rink

This shouldn't be so difficult but I'm having a brain fart.

I want to have a directory on my server that certain people (a global
group) can put files into but NOT be able to edit the file afterwards or
mess with (change or delete) other peoples files.

For example:
Sally creates a word document... She saves it to this document depository
directory.  She cannot delete the file after she saves it nor can she edit
it.  Other users cannot change/delete her file either.

How do I set the NT4.0 dir perms to do this?  

Add/Change does not work.  I think Add/Change will work *IF* they
MOVE/COPY a file into the dir though.

Help needed,
thanks

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