Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

And it was shipped special delivery from Uranus.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Gavin Wilby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My Macbook has no issues in connectiuon to 2003 VPN connections at all.
>
> Never.
>
> And its never had a Virus.
>
>
> On Feb 20, 2008 12:28 AM, Durf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Ah, trying to load WFW 3.11 with TCP/IP, the Client for Novell, and IBM
> Client Access all into high memory...good times!
> >
> > -- Durf
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> > On Feb 19, 2008 6:02 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > On Feb 19, 2008 5:32 PM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Queue the reminiscing about the old days (intro to Windows networking)
> > > > thread in 3...2...1.
> > >
> > >
> > >  Windows networking?  Why, when I started, all we had was NetWare 3.x
> > > a DOS prompt!  ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >  And sometimes we didn't even have 1's... ;-)
> > >
> > > -- Ben
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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Gavin Wilby]

Its not like I *need* a windows box to do my job - RDP works fine in a Mac
so I can remote all the sites I look after from home. And if I was to get
seriously stuck there is always Fusion or Bootcamp.
I love the way the Mac is put together and once you get out of the Windows
mindset, youll find they can actually work smarter - Spotlight for instance
knocks Vista/ Google/ desktop search into a cocked hat.

Mind you - Office on it sucks :)

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Jonathan Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Ditto.
>
>
> On Feb 20, 2008 9:01 AM, Gavin Wilby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > My Macbook has no issues in connectiuon to 2003 VPN connections at all.
> >
> > Never.
> >
> > And its never had a Virus.
> >
> >  On Feb 20, 2008 12:28 AM, Durf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Ah, trying to load WFW 3.11 with TCP/IP, the Client for Novell, and
> > > IBM Client Access all into high memory...good times!
> > >
> > > -- Durf
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Feb 19, 2008 6:02 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >  On Feb 19, 2008 5:32 PM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Queue the reminiscing about the old days (intro to Windows
> > > > networking)
> > > > > thread in 3...2...1.
> > > >
> > > >  Windows networking?  Why, when I started, all we had was NetWare
> > > > 3.x
> > > > a DOS prompt!  ;-)
> > > >
> > > >  And sometimes we didn't even have 1's... ;-)
> > > >
> > > > -- Ben
> > > >
> > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~
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> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day.
> > > Give a fish a man, and he'll eat for weeks!
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Gavin Wilby]

I was only being silly to an extent.
I have only had it for a few weeks. But I really love it. Its a great tool -
Im seriously considering when it comes to my destop replacement that I get a
mac for that too.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  That would really impress me regarding Macs…if I couldn't say the exact
> same thing about every Windows laptop I've owned over the years. The
> reliability, stability and security of any given system has much more to do
> with the system's user than it does the system's OS.
>
> Of course YMMV,
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> *From:* Gavin Wilby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:01 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: [ARRG] Macs and VPNs on 2003
>
>
>
> My Macbook has no issues in connectiuon to 2003 VPN connections at all.
>
>
>
> Never.
>
>
>
> And its never had a Virus.
>
> On Feb 20, 2008 12:28 AM, Durf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ah, trying to load WFW 3.11 with TCP/IP, the Client for Novell, and IBM
> Client Access all into high memory...good times!
>
> -- Durf
>
>
>
> On Feb 19, 2008 6:02 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Feb 19, 2008 5:32 PM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Queue the reminiscing about the old days (intro to Windows networking)
> > thread in 3...2...1.
>
>  Windows networking?  Why, when I started, all we had was NetWare 3.x
> a DOS prompt!  ;-)
>
>  And sometimes we didn't even have 1's... ;-)
>
> -- Ben
>
>
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> Give a fish a man, and he'll eat for weeks!
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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Jonathan Link]

Ditto.

On Feb 20, 2008 9:01 AM, Gavin Wilby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My Macbook has no issues in connectiuon to 2003 VPN connections at all.
>
> Never.
>
> And its never had a Virus.
>
>  On Feb 20, 2008 12:28 AM, Durf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Ah, trying to load WFW 3.11 with TCP/IP, the Client for Novell, and IBM
> > Client Access all into high memory...good times!
> >
> > -- Durf
> >
> >
> >  On Feb 19, 2008 6:02 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >  On Feb 19, 2008 5:32 PM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Queue the reminiscing about the old days (intro to Windows
> > > networking)
> > > > thread in 3...2...1.
> > >
> > >  Windows networking?  Why, when I started, all we had was NetWare 3.x
> > > a DOS prompt!  ;-)
> > >
> > >  And sometimes we didn't even have 1's... ;-)
> > >
> > > -- Ben
> > >
> > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~
> > > ~   ~
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --
> > Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day.
> > Give a fish a man, and he'll eat for weeks!
> >
> >
>

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RE: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Tim Vander Kooi]

That would really impress me regarding Macs...if I couldn't say the
exact same thing about every Windows laptop I've owned over the years.
The reliability, stability and security of any given system has much
more to do with the system's user than it does the system's OS.

Of course YMMV,

Tim

 

From: Gavin Wilby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

 

My Macbook has no issues in connectiuon to 2003 VPN connections at all.

 

Never.

 

And its never had a Virus.

On Feb 20, 2008 12:28 AM, Durf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ah, trying to load WFW 3.11 with TCP/IP, the Client for Novell, and IBM
Client Access all into high memory...good times!

-- Durf 

 

On Feb 19, 2008 6:02 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Feb 19, 2008 5:32 PM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Queue the reminiscing about the old days (intro to Windows networking)
> thread in 3...2...1.

 Windows networking?  Why, when I started, all we had was NetWare 3.x
a DOS prompt!  ;-)

 And sometimes we didn't even have 1's... ;-)

-- Ben


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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Gavin Wilby]

My Macbook has no issues in connectiuon to 2003 VPN connections at all.

Never.

And its never had a Virus.

On Feb 20, 2008 12:28 AM, Durf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ah, trying to load WFW 3.11 with TCP/IP, the Client for Novell, and IBM
> Client Access all into high memory...good times!
>
> -- Durf
>
>
> On Feb 19, 2008 6:02 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 19, 2008 5:32 PM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Queue the reminiscing about the old days (intro to Windows networking)
> > > thread in 3...2...1.
> >
> >  Windows networking?  Why, when I started, all we had was NetWare 3.x
> > a DOS prompt!  ;-)
> >
> >  And sometimes we didn't even have 1's... ;-)
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
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> Give a fish a man, and he'll eat for weeks!
>
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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 19 Feb 2008 at 18:02, Ben Scott  wrote:

>   Windows networking?  Why, when I started, all we had was NetWare 3.x a DOS
> prompt!  ;-) 

My first experience with NetWare was 2.x, oh the joys of building a networking 
floppy that differed from computer to computer depending on what NIC the 
machine had.  

My first home network was LANtastic on DOS.  Coax thin ethernet, never had to 
deal with Thick Ethernet.  I remember when Windows for Workgroups 3.11 was 
released with the express purpose of breaking LANtastic; that started my 
lifelong "love" for all things Microsoft.  

I got my first computer log-in in the fall of 1970, but I remember my dad 
having a 110-baud modem in the family room earlier than that ...

>   And sometimes we didn't even have 1's... ;-)

Yeah, and we carved our own ICs out of wood.  Using obsidian knives.

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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Durf]

Ah, trying to load WFW 3.11 with TCP/IP, the Client for Novell, and IBM
Client Access all into high memory...good times!

-- Durf

On Feb 19, 2008 6:02 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Feb 19, 2008 5:32 PM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Queue the reminiscing about the old days (intro to Windows networking)
> > thread in 3...2...1.
>
>  Windows networking?  Why, when I started, all we had was NetWare 3.x
> a DOS prompt!  ;-)
>
>  And sometimes we didn't even have 1's... ;-)
>
> -- Ben
>
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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Ben Scott]

On Feb 19, 2008 5:32 PM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Queue the reminiscing about the old days (intro to Windows networking)
> thread in 3...2...1.

  Windows networking?  Why, when I started, all we had was NetWare 3.x
a DOS prompt!  ;-)

  And sometimes we didn't even have 1's... ;-)

-- Ben

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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[James Kerr]

Re: [ARRG] Macs and VPNs on 2003Queue the reminiscing about the old days 
(intro to Windows networking) thread in 3...2...1.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Salvador Manzo 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [ARRG] Macs and VPNs on 2003


  With a virulence approaching hate, yes (Windows 9x and NT machines networked 
via Chameleon-NFS were my intro to Windows networking).
  Want to watch Explorer go BOOM on opening a folder?  Play with permissions on 
the Unix NFS host for a folder, then connect to it over Chameleon NFS.  If the 
permissions aren't exactly write, Explorer crashes on loading the folder.

  On 2/19/08 2:21 PM, "Eric E Eskam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



James Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/19/2008 02:33:43 PM:

> The old foggies on the list might remember back to the pre-Windows days 
> when PC's ran DOS and the majority of viruses and worms were on the 
> Macintosh. Anyone remember "Worm Food"??? 

1)  That was a different version of the Mac OS then the OS X 
2)  PC's still had more viri 
3)  A free little program by the name of Disinfectant pretty much put a 
stop to new viruses on the Mac in the mid 90's.  Sure there were still new 
ones, but nothing like the late 80's/early 90's 

You tended to see more widespread virus issues with Mac's since with 
AppleTalk built in, Mac's tended to be networked far earlier then their PC 
brethren (remember LANtastic or Windows for Warehouses, ARCnet, and paying for 
TCP/IP on PC's?!?) 

Eric Eskam
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect any 
position of the U.S. Government
"The human mind treats a new idea the same way the body treats a strange 
protein; it rejects it."
-  P. B. Medawar 




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  University of Southern California
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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Salvador Manzo]

With a virulence approaching hate, yes (Windows 9x and NT machines networked
via Chameleon-NFS were my intro to Windows networking).
Want to watch Explorer go BOOM on opening a folder?  Play with permissions
on the Unix NFS host for a folder, then connect to it over Chameleon NFS.
If the permissions aren¹t exactly write, Explorer crashes on loading the
folder.

On 2/19/08 2:21 PM, "Eric E Eskam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> James Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/19/2008 02:33:43 PM:
> 
>> > The old foggies on the list might remember back to the pre-Windows days
>> > when PC's ran DOS and the majority of viruses and worms were on the
>> > Macintosh. Anyone remember "Worm Food"???
> 
> 1)  That was a different version of the Mac OS then the OS X
> 2)  PC's still had more viri
> 3)  A free little program by the name of Disinfectant pretty much put a stop
> to new viruses on the Mac in the mid 90's.  Sure there were still new ones,
> but nothing like the late 80's/early 90's
> 
> You tended to see more widespread virus issues with Mac's since with AppleTalk
> built in, Mac's tended to be networked far earlier then their PC brethren
> (remember LANtastic or Windows for Warehouses, ARCnet, and paying for TCP/IP
> on PC's?!?) 
> 
> Eric Eskam
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect any
> position of the U.S. Government
> "The human mind treats a new idea the same way the body treats a strange
> protein; it rejects it."
> -  P. B. Medawar 
> 
> 

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Auxiliary Services IT, Datacenter
University of Southern California
818-612-5112


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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Vicky Spelshaus]

LANtastic and coax. good times.

On Feb 19, 2008 4:21 PM, Eric E Eskam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> James Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/19/2008 02:33:43 PM:
>
> > The old foggies on the list might remember back to the pre-Windows days
> > when PC's ran DOS and the majority of viruses and worms were on the
> > Macintosh. Anyone remember "Worm Food"???
>
> 1)  That was a different version of the Mac OS then the OS X
> 2)  PC's still had more viri
> 3)  A free little program by the name of Disinfectant pretty much put a
> stop to new viruses on the Mac in the mid 90's.  Sure there were still new
> ones, but nothing like the late 80's/early 90's
>
> You tended to see more widespread virus issues with Mac's since with
> AppleTalk built in, Mac's tended to be networked far earlier then their PC
> brethren (remember LANtastic or Windows for Warehouses, ARCnet, and paying
> for TCP/IP on PC's?!?)
>
> Eric Eskam
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect any
> position of the U.S. Government
> "The human mind treats a new idea the same way the body treats a strange
> protein; it rejects it."
> -  P. B. Medawar
>
>


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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Eric E Eskam]

James Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/19/2008 02:33:43 PM:

> The old foggies on the list might remember back to the pre-Windows days 
> when PC's ran DOS and the majority of viruses and worms were on the 
> Macintosh. Anyone remember "Worm Food"???

1)  That was a different version of the Mac OS then the OS X
2)  PC's still had more viri
3)  A free little program by the name of Disinfectant pretty much put a 
stop to new viruses on the Mac in the mid 90's.  Sure there were still new 
ones, but nothing like the late 80's/early 90's

You tended to see more widespread virus issues with Mac's since with 
AppleTalk built in, Mac's tended to be networked far earlier then their PC 
brethren (remember LANtastic or Windows for Warehouses, ARCnet, and paying 
for TCP/IP on PC's?!?)

Eric Eskam
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect any 
position of the U.S. Government
"The human mind treats a new idea the same way the body treats a strange 
protein; it rejects it."
-  P. B. Medawar
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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

I certainly do.  Never believe the hype coming out of a Mac-head.
It's as if they live their lives with blinders on.


On Feb 19, 2008 2:33 PM, James Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sherry Abercrombie wrote:
> > Never say never when it comes to viruses.
> >
> > A number of years ago, I was taking a class at the local community
> > college online.  At the intro meeting one of the students asked about
> > getting a virus or something like that, and the instructor stated that
> > we would be uploading our documents as Microsoft Word documents and
> > that they couldn't get a virus in a Word document.  A few days later,
> > the first MS Word macro virus was found.  I thought it was rather
> > humorous.
> >
>
> The old foggies on the list might remember back to the pre-Windows days
> when PC's ran DOS and the majority of viruses and worms were on the
> Macintosh. Anyone remember "Worm Food"???
> --
> Jim
> "Never explain -- your friends do not need it and your enemies will not
> believe you anyhow."- Elbert Hubbard
>
>
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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[James Edwards]

Sherry Abercrombie wrote:
Never say never when it comes to viruses. 

A number of years ago, I was taking a class at the local community 
college online.  At the intro meeting one of the students asked about 
getting a virus or something like that, and the instructor stated that 
we would be uploading our documents as Microsoft Word documents and 
that they couldn't get a virus in a Word document.  A few days later, 
the first MS Word macro virus was found.  I thought it was rather 
humorous. 



The old foggies on the list might remember back to the pre-Windows days 
when PC's ran DOS and the majority of viruses and worms were on the 
Macintosh. Anyone remember "Worm Food"???

--
Jim
"Never explain -- your friends do not need it and your enemies will not 
believe you anyhow."- Elbert Hubbard


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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Sherry Abercrombie]

Should be some kind of log file on either your VPN side, or on the MAC's.

We use Nortel Contivity for our VPN solution and it requires a special
client specifically for the MAC's or any *nix flavor, that must be purchased
separately.  Their Windows client comes with it.

On Feb 19, 2008 11:25 AM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Feb 18, 2008 4:37 PM, Oliver Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > ... they appear to connect but can't do bugger-all !!!
>
>  What diagnostic measures have you tried, and what did you find?
>
> -- Ben
>
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Arthur C. Clarke

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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Ben Scott]

On Feb 18, 2008 4:37 PM, Oliver Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ... they appear to connect but can't do bugger-all !!!

  What diagnostic measures have you tried, and what did you find?

-- Ben

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RE: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Oliver Marshall]

Thanks chaps, but are there any known reasons why Macs wont connect to a
windows based VPN ?

 

I can't find anything definite, just "well macs are shi**", which is
true, but doesn't help.

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 February 2008 02:24
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

 

Never say never when it comes to viruses.  

A number of years ago, I was taking a class at the local community
college online.  At the intro meeting one of the students asked about
getting a virus or something like that, and the instructor stated that
we would be uploading our documents as Microsoft Word documents and that
they couldn't get a virus in a Word document.  A few days later, the
first MS Word macro virus was found.  I thought it was rather humorous.


On Feb 18, 2008 4:15 PM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

FYI, I believe they can be vectors for viruses though.

 

Jon

On Feb 18, 2008 5:09 PM, Paul Lemonidis (NTL)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I hate them too. Look on the bright side! They are secure in the
ultimate as they simply don't talk to MS networks properly!!! No chance
of it ever being hacked  or getting a virus. Nothing including the user
can get to it!!!

 

Regards,

 

Paul Lemonidis.

 

From: Jon Harris <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:41 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>  

Subject: Re: [ARRG] Macs and VPNs on 2003

 

Joined the club of those that dislike Mac's?

 

You can't get rid of them only avoid them.  ;>

 

Jon

On Feb 18, 2008 4:37 PM, Oliver Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

What is it with Macs and connecting to VPNs based on 2003?!?! Macs work
fine on the network, the encryption that they hate so much is turned
off. Take them away, and they appear to connect but can't do bugger-all
!!! Never a problem with Windows laptops, no, never. Always, ALWAYS with
*g MACS!!!

 

Thanks

 

Olly

 

 

 







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Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke 


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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Sherry Abercrombie]

Never say never when it comes to viruses.

A number of years ago, I was taking a class at the local community college
online.  At the intro meeting one of the students asked about getting a
virus or something like that, and the instructor stated that we would be
uploading our documents as Microsoft Word documents and that they couldn't
get a virus in a Word document.  A few days later, the first MS Word macro
virus was found.  I thought it was rather humorous.

On Feb 18, 2008 4:15 PM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> FYI, I believe they can be vectors for viruses though.
>
> Jon
>
> On Feb 18, 2008 5:09 PM, Paul Lemonidis (NTL) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >  I hate them too. Look on the bright side! They are secure in the
> > ultimate as they simply don't talk to MS networks properly!!! No chance of
> > it ever being hacked  or getting a virus. Nothing including the user can get
> > to it!!!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Paul Lemonidis.
> >
> >  *From:* Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > *Sent:* Monday, February 18, 2008 9:41 PM
> >  *To:* NT System Admin Issues 
> >  *Subject:* Re: [ARRG] Macs and VPNs on 2003
> >
> > Joined the club of those that dislike Mac's?
> >
> > You can't get rid of them only avoid them.  ;>
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > On Feb 18, 2008 4:37 PM, Oliver Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >What is it with Macs and connecting to VPNs based on 2003?!?! Macs
> > > work fine on the network, the encryption that they hate so much is turned
> > > off. Take them away, and they appear to connect but can't do bugger-all 
> > > !!!
> > > Never a problem with Windows laptops, no, never. Always, ALWAYS with
> > > *g MACS!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Olly
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >  --
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >
> > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1285 - Release Date: 18/02/2008 
> > 05:50
> >
> >
> >
>


-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke

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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Jon Harris]

FYI, I believe they can be vectors for viruses though.

Jon

On Feb 18, 2008 5:09 PM, Paul Lemonidis (NTL) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  I hate them too. Look on the bright side! They are secure in the ultimate
> as they simply don't talk to MS networks properly!!! No chance of it ever
> being hacked  or getting a virus. Nothing including the user can get to
> it!!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul Lemonidis.
>
>  *From:* Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 18, 2008 9:41 PM
>  *To:* NT System Admin Issues 
>  *Subject:* Re: [ARRG] Macs and VPNs on 2003
>
> Joined the club of those that dislike Mac's?
>
> You can't get rid of them only avoid them.  ;>
>
> Jon
>
> On Feb 18, 2008 4:37 PM, Oliver Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >What is it with Macs and connecting to VPNs based on 2003?!?! Macs
> > work fine on the network, the encryption that they hate so much is turned
> > off. Take them away, and they appear to connect but can't do bugger-all !!!
> > Never a problem with Windows laptops, no, never. Always, ALWAYS with
> > *g MACS!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Olly
> >
> >
> >
> >
>  --
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
>
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>
> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1285 - Release Date: 18/02/2008 
> 05:50
>
>
>

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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Paul Lemonidis (NTL)]

I hate them too. Look on the bright side! They are secure in the ultimate as 
they simply don't talk to MS networks properly!!! No chance of it ever being 
hacked  or getting a virus. Nothing including the user can get to it!!!

Regards,

Paul Lemonidis.


From: Jon Harris 
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003


Joined the club of those that dislike Mac's?

You can't get rid of them only avoid them.  ;>

Jon


On Feb 18, 2008 4:37 PM, Oliver Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  What is it with Macs and connecting to VPNs based on 2003?!?! Macs work fine 
on the network, the encryption that they hate so much is turned off. Take them 
away, and they appear to connect but can't do bugger-all !!! Never a problem 
with Windows laptops, no, never. Always, ALWAYS with *g MACS!!!



  Thanks



  Olly















No
 virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition. 
Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1285 - Release Date: 18/02/2008 
05:50

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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Jon Harris]

I only have 2 years for retirement.  I am suggesting they outsource my
position.  I woud pity anyone taking it way too much politics and way too
little pay.

Jon

On Feb 18, 2008 4:50 PM, John Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Our CEO was talking about getting a Mac and all I had to ask was how much
> were we going to pay the new position.
> Painstakingly sent to you from my Blackberry.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Sent: Mon Feb 18 16:41:58 2008
> Subject: Re: [ARRG] Macs and VPNs on 2003
>
> Joined the club of those that dislike Mac's?
>
> You can't get rid of them only avoid them.  ;>
>
> Jon
>
>
> On Feb 18, 2008 4:37 PM, Oliver Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
>What is it with Macs and connecting to VPNs based on 2003?!?! Macs
> work fine on the network, the encryption that they hate so much is turned
> off. Take them away, and they appear to connect but can't do bugger-all !!!
> Never a problem with Windows laptops, no, never. Always, ALWAYS with
> *g MACS!!!
>
>
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>Olly
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~
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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[John Cook]

Our CEO was talking about getting a Mac and all I had to ask was how much were 
we going to pay the new position.
Painstakingly sent to you from my Blackberry.

- Original Message -
From: Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Mon Feb 18 16:41:58 2008
Subject: Re: [ARRG] Macs and VPNs on 2003

Joined the club of those that dislike Mac's?

You can't get rid of them only avoid them.  ;>

Jon


On Feb 18, 2008 4:37 PM, Oliver Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


What is it with Macs and connecting to VPNs based on 2003?!?! Macs work 
fine on the network, the encryption that they hate so much is turned off. Take 
them away, and they appear to connect but can't do bugger-all !!! Never a 
problem with Windows laptops, no, never. Always, ALWAYS with *g MACS!!!



Thanks



Olly






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RE: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Christopher J. Bosak]

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 15:42 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [ARRG] Macs and VPNs on 2003

 

Joined the club of those that dislike Mac's?

 

You can't get rid of them only avoid them.  ;>

 

Jon

On Feb 18, 2008 4:37 PM, Oliver Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

What is it with Macs and connecting to VPNs based on 2003?!?! Macs work fine
on the network, the encryption that they hate so much is turned off. Take
them away, and they appear to connect but can't do bugger-all !!! Never a
problem with Windows laptops, no, never. Always, ALWAYS with *g
MACS!!!

 

Thanks

 

Olly

 

 

 


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Re: [ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Jon Harris]

Joined the club of those that dislike Mac's?

You can't get rid of them only avoid them.  ;>

Jon

On Feb 18, 2008 4:37 PM, Oliver Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>What is it with Macs and connecting to VPNs based on 2003?!?! Macs work
> fine on the network, the encryption that they hate so much is turned off.
> Take them away, and they appear to connect but can't do bugger-all !!! Never
> a problem with Windows laptops, no, never. Always, ALWAYS with *g
> MACS!!!
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Olly
>
>
>
>

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[ARRGHHHH] Macs and VPNs on 2003

[Oliver Marshall]

What is it with Macs and connecting to VPNs based on 2003?!?! Macs work
fine on the network, the encryption that they hate so much is turned
off. Take them away, and they appear to connect but can't do bugger-all
!!! Never a problem with Windows laptops, no, never. Always, ALWAYS with
*g MACS!!!

 

Thanks

 

Olly

 


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